Zelensky called Vatican "ideal place" to meet with Putin, for "dialogue about peace"

The President of Ukraine, after several days of hesitation, made another statement about a possible meeting place with the President of Russia. Recall that a few days ago, Vladimir Putin said that if his Ukrainian colleague is going to discuss issues of bilateral relations, then let him fly to Moscow, and if the issue of Donbass is on the agenda, then Zelensky needs to talk about this not with the President of the Russian Federation, but with the heads of the DPR and LPR. ...

Today it became known that Zelensky, who a few days ago invited Putin "anywhere in the Ukrainian Donbass," found a new option for the meeting place.

In an interview with the Italian newspaper Respublika, the President of Ukraine said that "the Vatican could be the best place for a meeting." At the same time, he made such a statement after the question of Italian journalists, which sounded as follows:

Could it be, for example, Rome or the Vatican?

Zelensky:

Yes it is possible. The Vatican is an ideal place for dialogue about peace, as the Holy See is a global moral authority that has always served as an effective mediator.

At the same time, the President of Ukraine did not specify when it was the Vatican who successfully performed a mediating role to settle military conflicts. Maybe Yugoslavia, Iraq or Syria?

Zelensky:

The Pope is by vocation a prophet of peace, and the Vatican is a moral force. He acts in a neutral, disinterested manner with no military, political or economic interests.

This statement even makes one think about the adequacy of the assessments of the Ukrainian president. Either Zelensky has a very bad situation with his "materiel", or this is an inappropriate trolling for the two Orthodox powers. No less surprising is the statement that the Vatican has no political and economic interests ... This is already like trolling the Vatican itself.

In general, the current head of the Ukrainian state should study better history... At least - just to study ...

Zelensky, in an interview with Italian journalists, said that he had instructed his office to "prepare a meeting with the President of Russia." At the same time, the Ukrainian president added that the place of the future meeting should inspire confidence on both sides.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

As I understand it, after a recent tour of Paris, I also wanted to see Rome and the Vatican!
Cheater beaver!))

[Pereira]

Is it shameful for a Jew with the Pope of Rome or not?

[Johann Klassen]

As was the "Litsedei", so he remained.
Well, what's not in one of the former German concentration camps?
Although thanks to such types, the entire Universe, with some exceptions, has turned into places of "mass murder", "inferior" in the opinion of Jews, the peoples of the world.

[Machito]

The ideal meeting place for Zelensky and Putin is in Moscow at KVN. Where the clown began his career and groveling in front of Maslyukov.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The clown Zelya is habitually grimacing.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

The clown Zelya is habitually grimacing.

He doesn't just grimace.
This raccoon is persistently pushing for a change in format and agenda in order to make Russia a party to the conflict. What kind of "dialogue about the world“He tries to try if the Russian Federation and Ukraine are not officially at war, and they call the hostilities against the LPNR an anti-terrorist operation?

[VO3A]

it is the perfect place for dialogue about peace

Why date him "for a dialogue about peace"?
If we follow the logic of Ukraine, which refuses to negotiate with the LPNR, considering them not independent for negotiations, then why should Russia meet with Ukraine for for a dialogue about peaceif they are not independent and completely dependent on the United States ... Then, it turns out, it is necessary to negotiate with the United States without the presence of Ukraine ... This is not even bad Zelensky must understand !!!

[Filing]

Although the dad of the previous president was addicted to good coffee in a concentration camp. Envy !!!

[hagen]

Quote: Pereira

Is it shameful for a Jew with the Pope of Rome or not?

I think that everything is much simpler here. Putin invited Ze to Moscow to discuss bilateral issues. If Putin did not care where to meet, then he would say that he is ready at any third party platform. And he invited me to Moscow. So, either the meeting can take place in Moscow, or it won't be at all .... Does Ze want to go to the Vatican? Let him go ... One. Himself.

[Pereira]

Selts wants to improve his international rating, that's understandable. Here the Vatican suits him well. But why do we need Daddy? How is he here sideways?
So yeah, let him go. Himself.

[Egoza]

Quote: Pereira

Selts wants to improve his international rating, that's understandable. Here the Vatican is quite suitable for him.

You do not take into account that almost all Western Ukraine is Catholic or Greek Catholics, and they all obey the Pope. Whoever can slow down the Banderaites is the Pope. Let not all, but many.

[Pereira]

I take this into account. But the Pope will no longer be able to slow down or speed up anyone. Banderlog will not listen to him. This is the first thing. Secondly, the Outskirts are not ruled by Catholics.

[Xnumx vis]

And also the Holy Pope manages the Jesuit order of espionage .... The British MI6 advised the Ze or what?The members of the Society of Jesus, along with three traditional vows (poverty, obedience and chastity), also give the fourth - obedience to the Pope "in matters of missions." The motto of the order is the phrase "Ad majorem Dei gloriam" ("To the greater glory of God").
In 2018, the number of Jesuits was 15 people, of which 842 were priests [11]. About 389 thousand Jesuits - in Asia, 2 thousand - in the United States, and all Jesuits work in 4 countries around the world, they serve in 3 parishes.

[Pereira]

Quiet, maybe crap. But directly only publicly homosexuals pleases. And Ukraine, though close, is different.

[Alex Justice]

The Vatican is still the most powerful and influential organization in the world.

[fuffi]

it is not clear at all to meet with clown pawns.

[Alexander 3]

Well, we have our own DAD.

[hagen]

Quote: Pereira

Selts wants to improve his international ranking

What's the rating ?! Ze wants to meet so that he has somewhere to return. After a trip to Moscow, his own Nazis will tear him to pieces. And he knows it very well.

[BASHAR ASAD]

Especially when there is Old Man

[Cananecat]

Quote: Hagen

Ze wants to go to the Vatican? Let him go ... One. Himself.

The point is not where Ze wants to go. And about where VVP will not go for the sake of Zela ... and he made it clear that he would not go anywhere, hay does not go to the horse. Here is the green stable, and it rests on attempts to once again throw the glove over to our side. Then to cry out to the world that they did everything for the world in Donbass, but the darkest one refused ...

[vik669]

And sunny Magadan is a suitable place for Ze!

[Yura]

So, Putin nevertheless agreed to a meeting not in Moscow, but it was the Matiugan country, whose language became international in the 20th and 21st centuries, and therefore did not arouse any particular objections from any interested party. Further, a press conference with journalists, preceding the talks about Peace. President Zelensky was the first to answer questions, noting that the end of the aggression and the withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine is something without which a peace treaty is impossible. After that, Putin took out his simple mobile phone with a megaphone, turned on the speakerphone and called Shoigu. Shoigu answered the commander-in-chief according to the charter and Putin asks him - can you send a platoon of Marines and Airborne Forces to Ukraine, and a couple of guys from Buryatia to be convincing? Shoigu does not answer him a question, I can, I can do more, but why and in what locality, directly to Kiev or something. Putin says to him, you know, you really want to help Ukraine end the war, but they can't do it without the withdrawal of our troops, we also can't sign an agreement without this withdrawal, because in order to withdraw something from somewhere, it must be something -that was already there, and where to enter now we will ask Mr. Zelinsky where he wants our troops to be, so that we can withdraw them from there and sign this notorious treaty, although I am inclined to believe that your proposal regarding Kiev is very interesting. Shoigu answered "yes", but noted that it would not hurt to ventilate and check the situation, and suddenly Zelensky does not want us to withdraw our incomplete company and then we will not be able to finish building the bridge across the Lena to Yakutsk and the second branch of the BAM will be postponed indefinitely, After all, feeding almost 40 million people is not a pound of raisins, it is not even the United States and Europe together, China would not undertake this. Putin hung up and said to Zelensky, we will withdraw our troops, tell me where to bring them in.

[credo]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: Pereira

Is it shameful for a Jew with the Pope of Rome or not?

I think that everything is much simpler here. Putin invited Ze to Moscow to discuss bilateral issues. If Putin did not care where to meet, then he would say that he is ready at any third party platform. And he invited me to Moscow. So, either the meeting can take place in Moscow, or it won't be at all .... Does Ze want to go to the Vatican? Let him go ... One. Himself.

The ideal place would be the North Pole - quiet and deserted, put up a tent and say what you want and how much you want

Well, in general, speaking seriously, since V.V. Putin determined the topic of negotiations, namely, bilateral relations between the two countries, then negotiations should be carried out on the territory of one of the two countries, and not engage in idolatry before the Catholic Church.

[lopuhan2006]

Actually, the pope represents the Aramaic religions. And so it is in Tel Aviv and only there.

[Invoce]

!

Quote: lopuhan2006

Actually, the pope represents the Aramaic religions. And so it is in Tel Aviv and only there.

Tel Aviv is very simple and kosher.
If I were Ze, I would suggest meeting in Mecca!
I do not know the opinion of Muslims on this matter, but Ze and the Pope did not ask

[Sergey M. Karasev]

If I were Ze, I would suggest meeting in Mecca! belay

Will not work. Access to Mecca Kaffiram closed

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Invoce

Tel Aviv is very simple and kosher.

Meeting point at wailing walls...

[Konstantin Gogolev]

Quote: Pereira

Is it shameful for a Jew with the Pope of Rome or not?

This one will even kiss with joy.

[businessv]

Quote: Pereira

Is it shameful for a Jew with the Pope of Rome or not?

It seems to me that there should be a reverse question - will the Pope allow a Jew to kiss his hand ?!

[Ruslan Sulima]

Cheater beaver!))

Stupid beaver) So afraid of Putin that he forgot about the presence of many cathedrals and spiers in the Vatican.

[NIKN]

And what about the Vatican? Maybe with Peter (the apostle) immediately agree to start at the expense of the meeting place.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: NIKNN

And what about the Vatican?

"... the clergymen were gaping. The Vatican hesitated a little ..." (V.S. Vysotsky)

[Egoza]

Quote: NIKNN

Maybe with Peter (the apostle) immediately agree to start at the expense of the meeting place.

he won't jump

[Snail N9]

By recognizing one (previous) clown as the legitimate president of country 404, Russia has driven itself into a dead end. Now you have to communicate in general, with a very odious figure ...

[demo]

And how!
Another rogue.
Only with such "gavriki" on one hectare of need sits not comme il faut.
Sorry.

[antivirus]

we must go to talk to Tamerlane's grave, next to him in a tent. or Beijing Park (or Forbidden City). there uhry will receive a lesson in peacefulness.

[Real Pilot]

It also says about Italian journalists!
"What is the name of the capital? Ah ... Rome!" There is also the Vatican ...
You can laugh at the clown.

But there are also moments behind the scenes. First, the Uniates are now strong in Ukraine, and these are Catholics. By the way, in the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are chaplains from western Ukraine, who are strongly supported by the supporters of the "war party". Therefore, we can assume that the idea of ​​the Vatican is not his invention, but an attempt by shadow players to play on the religious front.
Again, this will be supported by Poland and the Baltic states. Even Turkey. And the United States, too, because the destruction of Orthodoxy has already been tested, the Tomos Poroshenko managed to organize, even Patriarch Bartholomew and some local churches were broken over the knee for this.

Plus, the poisoners are strong in the Vatican. We know this from history, when the rulers were disagreeable ... They quickly freed the thrones.
Putin will come to the Vatican, he will feel bad ... And then he will start in the spirit of Western propaganda: "I went to the cathedral, and God punished him for the Salisberets spiers, and Alyosha was miraculously saved." In general, it is not safe there. And the Vatican always knew how to twist their hands and "persuade by prayer". The Inquisition is evidence of this.

No, there is nothing for the president of an Orthodox country in the Vatican! And they should not be intermediaries in the civil war.
Homo homini lupus est (a man to a man is a wolf, Latin) is an otda. And we have a man is a friend, comrade and brother! Therefore, we will figure it out among ourselves ...

[businessv]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

As I understand it, after a recent tour of Paris, I also wanted to see Rome and the Vatican!

That's for sure, only I think that the GDP will tell him not only how much roofing material is in Odessa, but also who the Pope is for the Orthodox. The pope who blessed gay marriage and usury by opening his own bank. A listing of the differences between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches would take a whole article.

[svp67]

And then Ostap suffered ...

[iouris]

The impression is that "Malta-2" is being prepared.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: iouris

The impression is that "Malta-2" is being prepared.

The same association arose.

[Woodman]

Zelensky:

The Pope is by vocation a prophet of peace, and the Vatican is a moral force.

Why not Crimea? There is also moral support from his former fellow citizens. Or not sure if they will support him?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Lesovik

Why not Crimea?

Better to invite Zelenskiy to Honduras ... and not show up.

[Uncle lee]

Don't dirty Honduras ...

[antivirus]

sad clown-high rank .....................................
may not grow up in sprout

[vik669]

The boy wants to Tambov
You know chiki-chiki-chiki-chiquita
The boy wants to Tambov
You know chiki-chiki-chiki-chiquita

[vik669]

In Honduras and without it, there are enough Honduras.

[Dym71]

Quote: Lesovik

Why not Crimea?

Zelensky can fly in the Crimea, or maybe this is how:

[aszzz888]

+4
Quote: Lesovik
Why not Crimea?

Zelensky may arrive in Crimea, or maybe so: bully

And the EU was banned from performing for 3 months. Shmandyaykin-Nazi offspring will snatch everywhere!

[alex83]

Zelya the clown, I doubt that Vovan will spend time with you talking

[prior]

The clapper tried to jump off .... but it's too late.

[Alexga]

Well, if so much attention is devoted to Zelensky at VO, then, probably, the word MILITARY will be decisive in solving the Ukrainian question.

[Egoza]

Quote: AlexGa

Well, if so much attention is devoted to Zelensky at VO, then, probably, the word MILITARY will be decisive in solving the Ukrainian question.

Maybe. Here the "head commander" will give the order to withdraw, and the generals will send him .... far away .... and remain in place along with heavy weapons

[Alexga]

Everything is bad with the commander-in-chief there. About 18 years ago I had the pleasure of looking at him up close in Minsk, the impression was that he invigorates himself with some kind of drugs. It is clear that a lot of time has passed, the Comedy Clab is also not a simple structure, but listening to his speeches, especially when he invited VVP to negotiations in the DPR, not everything is all right with him now.

[rocket757]

Zelensky called Vatican "ideal place" to meet with Putin, for "dialogue about peace"

Is it true? Neither ours nor theirs' faith was even close! Shaw to do there?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the clown is absolutely stupid ?!

[prior]

He looks very uncomfortable on a hot "political frying pan" ...
No longer knows who to hide behind.

[iouris]

But there is a small condition: Putin must convert to Catholicism.

[Alexander 3]

Yes, and make a cut.

[Russobel]

This little clown is completely confused.
They explained to him, he does not understand.
He is in the forehead, that on the forehead everything is one ...
Enough to promote it already.
Clown Ze is not sane!
Therefore, you cannot judge him, but you can treat him, and forcibly.
Can be put to sleep as a last resort.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Then it's better to the Dalai Lama than to the Catholics.

[Sovpadenie]

"The Holy See is a global moral authority." After centuries of crusades, religious wars, inquisitions and witch hunts? Oh well...

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
Maybe to Mecca or Lhasa? ...
***

[Vitaly Utkin_2]

When interacting with each other, it is important to take into account the ethics of God (Creator) as a correct alternative, and then everything will be correct in the self-development of mankind.
God teaches to forgive, not to demand back what they have taken from you, to be humble, not belligerent, not aggressive, not to get irritated by condemning others, not to crave “earthly” values, not to “get attached” to “earthly” objects, including other people, - but to react with love to all sorts of antics of primitives, to be caring, gentle in relations with neighbors ...

Many modern believers in the existence of God do not pose the question of the meaning of life. They ... only dream of earthly well-being and of avoiding hell after the death of the body ... And what should be done for this? - it turns out, to participate in various "religious" rituals, to repent of true and imaginary sins, as well as to "pray", that is, first of all, to beg for "salvation" from hell - from God or from the "gods" and " saints ".
And this absurdity has always been actively promoted by the priests of such religious trends. They instill in their "flock" the idea of ​​God - as an evil Scarecrow, which only does what punishes, and therefore it is necessary to be afraid of Him!
The prayers offered to believers in pagan confessions intensely dull the adepts, forming in them despondency, feelings of their own insignificance, hopelessness, doom for the coming torment in hell ... But the "shepherds" will call and force their adherents to "pray" more and more. After all, if they improve themselves, and not “pray”, then such churches will turn out to be unnecessary, and the “shepherds” themselves will be deprived of the offerings of the “believers”.

About the importance of True spirituality.
The solution is to - on a national scale - give people true knowledge about God and what He wants from us.

Many uninspired people made their way by walking "over corpses" for the sake of high monetary incomes, the ability to manage others at their own whim, to appropriate material values ​​...
... Whereas the correct alternative for us in our relationships with other people is all-round intelligent help to them, even to the detriment of ourselves.

The only sacrifice that God the Father wants from people is the loss of their selfhood and their egocentrism.

It is the basis of social harmony that should not become the structure of the economy and the way of distributing material wealth, but sincere benevolence of people in relations with each other should take place.

[Guru]

Vitaly Utkin_2 (Vitaly Utkin)
Sir, and you definitely have not Confused the Site?

[Cat]

It's strange that Zelenskiy chose the Vatican over Las Vegas. They say that it is there that the best circus in the world - Cirque du Soleil.

Oh! Wan! Look, what clowns!
Mouth - at least stitches ...
Oh, what, Wan, are painted
And the voice - like drunks!

(C)

[Alex66]

The Pope is by vocation a prophet of peace, and the Vatican is a moral force.

There are much more cases when the Vatican approved of war, and Rome, directly under the leadership of the Nazis, participated in the attack on the USSR. This is not recalling the Middle Ages of obscurantism and the bonfires of the Inquisition. And also the murder of Christians by the crusaders, who believed a little differently than the Catholics.

[Guru]

Zelensky called Vatican "ideal place" to meet with Putin, for "dialogue about peace"

And what is not in Mecca or Medina.

[fuffi]

then in Israel

[mabhol]

The perfect place to meet this clown would be at Zelenskiy's funeral, if Putin deems it necessary to come to this ceremony!

[Vladimir61]

The clown already lacks space - "the whole world is with us, he lives and revolves exclusively around Ukraine"? Now we need a Vatican that does not fit in with the Orthodox world and for centuries lived under the slogan "Cross and Sword".

This work is hard
Play idiot every day

[K-50]

Zelensky called Vatican "ideal place" to meet with Putin, for "dialogue about peace"

Why not on the moon?

[akarfoxhound]

"A global moral authority?" - at the Vatican ??? Did the Nazis who fled to Argentina with Vatican passports tell this clown? Or did the suppliers of firewood for the fires of the Inquisition scribbled on the papyri? Or maybe the modern evrohomoceki shared their joy for the permission of the "wedding"?

[Boromir1941]

in my opinion he just insulted the Vatican?

[hermit]

"I would have sucked a glass and - to the Vatican!"

[Virus-free crown]

Why not just make an appointment in paradise ?!

while I see the classics of the genre:

Through the streets of the Elephant they drove,
Apparently, for show -
It is known that Elephants in wonder with us -
There were crowds of onlookers behind the Elephant.

From nowhere, meet Moska them.
Seeing the Elephant, well, to him to rush,
And bark, and scream, and tear,
Well, and climbs into a fight with him.

"Neighbor, stop shame,"
The mongrel says to her, "Do you mess with the elephant?"
Look, you're wheezing, and he goes to himself.
Forward
And he doesn't notice your bark at all. "

"Eh, eh! - Pug answers her. -
That's what gives me the spirit,
That I, absolutely without a fight,
I can get into big bully.

Let the dogs say:
"Ay, pug! Know she is strong,
What barks at the Elephant! "

[HAM]

More and more Zelenskiy is posing as an idiot, or is being portrayed as such on purpose ....
For him, it is not the question of negotiations that is important, but the very fact of negotiations ... frantically looking for a convenient place ...
Well, what can you talk about with this? If only you do not respect yourself ...

[Mr.dimadroll]

Or a drug addict or the Vatican wants to see. In principle, one does not exclude the other

[Prisoner]

The boy kicked hard. From what pills can it poke like that ?!

[Cowbra]

The President of Ukraine, after several days of hesitation, made another statement about a possible meeting place with the President of Russia.

He's just trying to get rid of the obsessive voice that tells him every time that "your place is near the bucket."
Oh, those Petrov and Boshirov

[Silinvv]

Yes, if this whole circus stops with the DPR and LPR and nasty things in the direction of Russia, even at the North Pole. The main thing here is to break away from Sherkhan and become independent Tabaki.

[didra]

Of course, given the "Polish and Austo-Hungarian history" of the idea of ​​Ukrainians - the Vatican, this is a damn neutral place.

[Antagonist]

The Holy See is a global moral authority

For whom? For Ukraine? So for them, any Russophobe authority

[Antagonist]

President of Ukraine after several days of reflection

I went out of a spree to a campaign

[Antagonist]

makes one think about the adequacy of the assessments of the Ukrainian president

Any president of Ukraine has zero adequacy.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Well, you can't print everything he says, clown.

[Piramidon]

Zelensky:

The Pope is by vocation a prophet of peace, and the Vatican is a moral force. He acts in a neutral, disinterested manner with no military, political or economic interests.

I licked it for good.

[APASUS]

Even trying to play the role of president, Ze is looking for an opportunity to attach importance to himself. The Vatican should be his intermediary ............. !!?

[Lycan]

Or maybe in Jerusalem? Or Nazareth?
I explain - and Catholicism and Orthodoxy have equal "initial conditions" and "Judea" around - (to be cunning is completely shameful in the homeland of the first prophets of all Abrahamic religions), and the local special forces are completely organized, and the territory is neutral.

[Retvizan 8]

Monica, you will never suggest where to meet with the President of Russia!
Your number 6, where they will tell you there yourself and you will go.

[xorek]

Zelensky again entered the role, the savior of the world, ugh, damn it .. Recently, he just clapped his frightened eyes when Russian divisions deployed on the border of this non-state. And he will talk to Donbass, Bandera's supporters will hang him for one place at once ..

[Radius]

The Dalai Lama can also. Or in Mecca ... There Ze will be very happy :)

[opposite28]

The Pope is by vocation a prophet of peace, and the Vatican is a moral force. He acts in a neutral, disinterested manner with no military, political or economic interests.
Tovarisch Zelensky (as the president of a country called Ukraine) participates in imposing a "noose" for the Russian Federation, as well as in combination with the participation of neighboring states, primarily Moldova (Romania), Turkey, Bulgaria, and of course the United States with its main allies in France , Germany and Great Britain. The combination may consist in the use, in addition to the LPR and DPR, of the PMR (some representatives of which gravitate towards the "Italian model" of building and developing society (family mafia clans) and can use such a map in the geopolitical struggle, ESPECIALLY considering the presence of the OGRV) when ruling a large-scale armed conflict ... The Vatican policy (moral strength, as Zelensky put it) in relation to armed conflicts is famous from the experience of the Second World War for the "tacit" approval of the further escalation of tensions among the flock, followed by the influence (for example, the no less famous Red Cross organization), using on the current situation in a specific period of time (to control the fight of the flock "from around the corner") and it does not matter whether it is the Catholic flock or the Orthodox, or to push the two together, because one should not forget about the schismatic actions in Ukraine of representatives of the UOC, headed by Patriarch Filaret, who can use war as a tool against ROC.

[sgr291158]

Zelya will not let you into the Vatican, you have a lot of sins.

[Alex Justice]

The idea is simple. It makes no difference where to play the fool, but I haven’t been to the Vatican yet, why not go there for a ball.

[babylon]

The Vatican has long discredited itself in this world.
And if you really want to meet, then it's best in Yalta, as in the old days.

[Ovsigovets]

stsu * oh .... this big top will end how will they choose the next preza of Ukraine? or will the same pea jester be?

[Sibguest]

"The Pope is by vocation a prophet of peace, and the Vatican is a moral force. He acts in a neutral, disinterested manner, with no military, political or economic interests."
Zelya is not a clown, but an illiterate ram.
Let him at least honor Leo Taxil "The Sacred Nativity Scene", or ask fellow believers about the deeds of the Vatican during World War II.