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The Ukrainian Armed Forces decided to conduct exercises using the Tochka-U missile systems near the Crimean borders

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It became known about the next maneuvers of the Ukrainian troops on the border with the Russian Crimea. We will remind that recently the position of the Ukrainian troops near the Crimean border was visited by the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky.


Today it became known that the Armed Forces of Ukraine delivered Tochka-U missile systems to one of the ranges of the Kherson region. It is reported that exercises with the crews of these tactical complexes are being conducted in the south of the region.

The video published by the Ukrainian military department does not contain footage of missile launches. The movement of missile systems, their deployment and subsequent departure are shown. Judging by the footage, we can conclude that 4 Tochka-U complexes were taken out for military field maneuvers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

It is worth noting that the deployment of the complexes was carried out in various parts of the terrain.


The Ukrainian press, covering information about the maneuvers, writes that the deployment was carried out in the immediate vicinity of the "occupied Crimea". It is also added that the Armed Forces of Ukraine "continue to guard the integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine."

Recall that Zelensky arrived in the area of ​​the border with Crimea after his visit to the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass. At the same time, in the office of the Ukrainian president, they once again made it clear that Zelensky is not going to conduct a dialogue with Donbass on ending the armed conflict.
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  1. APASUS
    APASUS April 28 2021 12: 35
    +3
    Did the clown visit the positions on the Crimean border? I must attach importance to my words, otherwise it turns out as something not serious ..................
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 28 2021 12: 44
      +3
      ... Judging by the footage, we can conclude that 4 Tochka-U complexes were taken out for military field maneuvers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      Are they still valid? It seems like the expiration dates should have come out. Or how, in the case of Neptune, did you decide to do with layouts?

      How is the Thunder-2 project?
      ... The creation of the Ukrainian operational-tactical missile system "Grom-2" continues to be questionable.

      In 2018, after the five-axle chassis of the OTRK participated in the parade on August 24 in Kiev, and then demonstrated at the Arms and Security exhibition, it was solemnly announced that the first launches would be carried out in 2019.

      But, neither then, nor in the next, nor in the first months of 2021, the tests did not take place. Therefore, the dates for the start of serial production from 2022 have once again been postponed for several more years, now certainly not earlier than 2025. Problems in the general degradation of the scientific and technical potential of the country, in the absence of the necessary components.



      Why is there OTRK Thunder-2, then, according to rumors, Yuzhmash sharply retrained for the developer of the air defense system.
      Dexterously Ze propagandists lead the local lads on the lips.

      In Ukraine, it was announced that the Yuzhnoye design bureau is working on the latest Kilchen anti-aircraft missile system, which is supposedly an analogue of the American Patriot air defense system.

      The media in Nezalezhnaya are already happily reporting that this air defense system meets all NATO standards and can fight various air targets, including aircraft made using Stealth technology.

      A specially designed radar station is capable of observing the surrounding area for 400 km. And the anti-aircraft missiles themselves can hit 280 km.

      As usually happens in Ukraine, there is no real installation yet, but there are beautiful pictures.


      Not only Russian, but also Ukrainian experts are very skeptical about this project, the chances of its successful implementation are very small. It has repeatedly happened that the money allocated for such projects was spent for other purposes.

      1. YOUR
        YOUR April 28 2021 13: 00
        +14
        Ukrainian Tochka-U on our border is very serious, like their C-4.
        The fact is that the flight of this missile in the Ukrainian version is unpredictable .. So back in 2000, during the exercises, the Tochka was launched into the town of Brovary. Three people were killed, 5 were wounded. Almost to the other side of the goal. In any case, the target was at 30 km, and the point of impact of the rocket at 130 km. Then for another three days the tales told that it was an explosion of household gas. More than 20 years have passed. I don't think these years have added "health" to rockets.
        It is necessary for our air defense personnel to closely monitor the terminators from the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        1. frruc
          frruc April 28 2021 13: 53
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          There is no footage of missile launches in the video published by the Ukrainian military department. The movement of missile systems, their deployment and subsequent departure are shown. video no frames with missile launches. The movement of missile systems, their deployment and subsequent departure are shown.

          Kakly can show anything, even bare asses on the border in the direction of the Crimea. It has become commonplace for them to do show-off, they want to impress someone that they still have something to ride and conditionally destroy the enemy? Sick morons, let them just try.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov April 28 2021 15: 52
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            These shots are a distraction. After that, for sure, the installation with rockets went to Donbass.
            1. frruc
              frruc April 28 2021 16: 09
              0
              We went to the 19th Zaporozhye missile brigade.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov April 28 2021 16: 11
                -1
                Maybe there: it's not far. But I guess this message is also a diversion. smile
                1. frruc
                  frruc April 28 2021 18: 33
                  0
                  Let them roll in the ass. Only if they use missiles will the conversation with them be different.
        2. Toucan
          Toucan April 29 2021 02: 40
          0
          Ukrainian Tochka-U on our border is very serious, like their C-4.

          The S-200 air defense system in Ukraine has long been decommissioned.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR April 29 2021 04: 34
            0
            In 2013, they were removed from combat duty and sent to long-term storage warehouses.
            1. Toucan
              Toucan April 29 2021 05: 51
              +1
              There is nothing left to store there. Written off and cut into metal.
      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich April 28 2021 13: 32
        +1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        How is the Thunder-2 project?

        It's time to rename it to "Dom-2". The same senseless nonsense: nothing happens, just dogging with each other, complaining and begging.
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 28 2021 12: 46
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      Did the clown visit the positions on the Crimean border?

      Already .... checked out.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 28 2021 12: 57
        +2
        Zelensky is not going to conduct a dialogue with Donbass on ending the armed conflict.
        But in armor and in a helmet near the front line recourse
    3. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 28 2021 12: 46
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Did the clown visit the positions on the Crimean border? I must attach importance to my words, otherwise it turns out as something not serious ..................

      It won't be so funny without it.
    4. Normal ok
      Normal ok April 28 2021 13: 49
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Did the clown visit the positions on the Crimean border? I must attach importance to my words, otherwise it turns out as something not serious ..................

      naive. Where top officials come, - always a preliminary agreement.
    5. Cowbra
      Cowbra April 28 2021 14: 34
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      Did the clown visit the positions on the Crimean border?

      Yes, they say, they fired up his unedited statement from the front line, which he wrote after exhausting battles ...
      On February 19, I exploded. At dusk. The 19th in the Buddhist calendar was considered the New Year. So the year started hard for me. (Tries to smile, blood flows quickly from his lip). Yesterday they put a bandage around my face. In general, my face is dry. The operation is not done yet, because I will be worse off on the road. When I move my fingers, blood also flows. I hope to get to Europe as soon as possible.

      Sorry for the bearded fairy tale
  2. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 28 2021 12: 41
    +4
    This whole demonstration looks like a paramilitary commando squad. In the place of Zelensky, you need to be careful in handling "Tochki", especially with "U". So it will not calculate and there will be a bold point "Z" from it ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 28 2021 13: 00
      +4
      Quote: ROSS 42
      will not calculate and will remain from him a bold point "Z" ...
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 28 2021 13: 03
      +1
      If only the monkey with the grenade was more careful. what And so admire. So only in the muzzles. Otherwise, nothing.
      Over time, the Ukrainian artillerymen realized that they needed a genuine "wunderwaffe" to be successful. The Tochka-U missile systems, which were launched in the Soviet Union, were in service, allowing some problems on the battlefield to be solved with one blow. The peculiarity of using such a powerful weapon is the dependence on accurate intelligence, which is laid down in the flight map. It is not hard to guess that the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as of 2014, were not able to conduct a full-fledged reconnaissance of targets for tactical missiles. Therefore, they were often used "at random", like powerful MLRS. A separate 19th missile brigade from the city of Khmelnitsky with 12 launchers TRK (tactical missile system) 9K79-1 "Tochka-U" worked with similar equipment during the conflict. The total number of missiles in the inventory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at that time could reach 500 pieces. Most likely, high-explosive fragmentation missiles 9N123F were used in the Donbas as part of 9M79F or 9M79-1F missiles. The warhead of such ammunition has a mass of 482 kg, and the total mass of the explosive exceeds 162 kg. During the explosion, the rocket creates a field of damaging elements, consisting of 14,5 thousand fragments.


      . The beginning of the use of "Tochka-U" on the infrastructure of Donbass and the positions of the militia dates back to July 29, 2014. The militia positions near Saur-Mogila were the first to be hit by numerous rockets - the launches were carried out from Kramatorsk. Further, the Vergunka station, the settlements of Makeevka, Rovenki, Snezhnoe, Ilovaisk, Beloyarovka, Amvrosievka, Khartsyzsk, Alchevsk, Donetsk, Logvinovo and the area of ​​the 238th height were added to the list of targets. The low accuracy of hitting some missiles is surprising - many photographs record the consequences of strikes in an open field with no targets visible near. Usually, the Armed Forces of Ukraine struck only with a pair of missiles at alleged targets deep in the enemy's defenses. It is worth remembering in this regard that in the Soviet Army group strikes with four missiles at once entered into practice, thanks to which at least one Tochka-U missile was guaranteed to hit a circle with a radius of 50 meters.


      ... One of the first infrastructure facilities hit by tactical missiles was the Donetsk state-owned chemical products plant. I must say that the Ukrainians got into it very successfully - as a result, about 12 tons of hexogen detonated. It was not by chance that the plant found itself under fire - it produced explosives for a wide range of ammunition. Further, the rockets fell in Donetsk itself and near the Oktyabrskaya mine, leading to numerous civilian casualties.





      The fighters of the 19th separate missile brigade tried to get into the ammonia storage facilities located in Donetsk, Lugansk and Horlivka. The task was simple - to deprive the region of raw materials for the production of explosives and to poison a considerable number of residents with toxic gas. This time "Tochki-U" did not reach chemically dangerous objects.


      https://topwar.ru/150647-bogi-vojny-na-donbasse-tochka-u-i-ne-tolko-okonchanie.html
  3. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 28 2021 12: 44
    +2
    The complexes are more than thirty years old .. There is no particular confidence that in addition to movement, they are still capable of something ..
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 28 2021 12: 47
      +5
      Quote: Angry 55
      There is no particular confidence that apart from movement, they are still capable of something ..

      And nevertheless, in Syria, and in other "hot spots" they are still used
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 28 2021 13: 01
        +3
        It all depends on what kind of TO they had.
        There is something that breaks there, without proper MOT, the end point of the flight is not predictable.
      2. Guru
        Guru April 28 2021 13: 19
        +4
        And nevertheless, in Syria, and in other "hot spots" they are still used
        They are used, only the launchers are old (local), but modernized and technically maintained, and the missiles in Syria are fresh and also serviced, But in dill, the installations are served by local craftsmen and there are no fresh missiles, and all the storage periods for the old ones have already passed. So Ukropagandony shows only pokatushki Kharnykh Khloptsev. But they are afraid to start using old stuff.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 28 2021 13: 43
          +2
          Quote: Guru
          But in the dill, the installations are served by local craftsmen.

          Did they not study one by one with our textbooks?
          Quote: Guru
          and for the old ones, all the storage periods have already passed

          They have already been able to "rejuvenate" the missile defense system, I do not think that it is a special problem for them to do the same with the "points", the whole point is only in financing
          Quote: Guru
          So Ukropagandony shows only pokatushki Kharnykh Khloptsev.

          And nevertheless, they carried out launches in Donetsk and Lugansk
          1. Guru
            Guru April 28 2021 13: 48
            +2
            Did they not study one by one with our textbooks?
            Those who studied the same textbooks are already retired.
            They have already been able to "rejuvenate" the SAM,
            What kind of rejuvenation are you talking about? Which SAM did they rejuvenate?
            And nevertheless, they carried out launches in Donetsk and Lugansk
            And how many of those launches were there? and most importantly, how effective they were.
            1. svp67
              svp67 April 28 2021 13: 52
              +1
              Quote: Guru
              Those who studied the same textbooks are already retired.

              We have yes, they DO NOT ...
              Quote: Guru
              Which SAM did they rejuvenate?

              For S-125 and S-300
              Quote: Guru
              And how many of those launches were there? and most importantly, how effective they were.

              "Tochki-U", according to Muzhenko, covered the exit from the Ilovaisk boiler (in the same place the MLRS "Smerch" were used). “More than 12 group and single missile strikes were carried out using from 1 to 4 Tochka U launchers
              And this is just one of the episodes
              And here is a description for 2017
              https://topwar.ru/116246-tochki-nad-u.html
          2. tarakan
            tarakan April 28 2021 14: 29
            0
            nevertheless, they carried out launches in Donetsk and Lugansk

            Judging by the result, they carried out FUNDS (litter for vulgarity)
    2. Zorro21
      Zorro21 April 28 2021 12: 56
      +1
      Quote: Angry 55
      besides movement, they are still capable of something

      If their new mortars explode every other time, then the launch of missiles with an expired shelf life of at least 20 years, in the best case, hello to the dust and the fire is already at the start.
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 April 28 2021 13: 22
        0
        Unfortunately, even a few years ago the ukrovoyaks fired at the cities of Donbass with these missiles.
  4. prior
    prior April 28 2021 12: 45
    +1
    The rabid "fighting dog" created by the Americans is not able to sit still.
    It has long been asking to be put on a chain.
    And after all he will be interrogated ...
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 28 2021 12: 55
      -5
      The Ukrainian army is in many ways the same Soviet army with the appropriate weapons, though far from the best model.
      1. prior
        prior April 28 2021 12: 59
        +2
        The Sovietness of the Ukrainian army ended in Illovaisk and near Debaltseve.
        Now it is the result of joint reforms with NATO aimed at Russia.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg April 28 2021 13: 07
          0
          Reforms in the American way? Then I am calm for the Donbass.
          ... The Sovietness of the Ukrainian army is over

          Sovietness will end when they switch from Soviet weapons to Western NATO ones, and until they are resettled their Sovietness has not ended.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 28 2021 15: 55
      0
      Quote: prior
      the mad "fighting dog" is not able to sit still.

      They have the same "fighting dog" as a sled dog from the Pikines.
  5. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 28 2021 12: 47
    +1
    Clownery.
    Everyone will never understand that blackmail by the threat of military action will not force the Russian leadership to back down.
    Our headquarters are well aware of the current capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    It is a pity, of course, that the Ukrainian leadership is ready to throw to the slaughter all men over 15 years old - these are their mobilization plans.
    1. Olegkh
      Olegkh April 29 2021 22: 00
      -1
      About "from 15 years" where did you get it?
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 April 28 2021 12: 58
    0
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces decided to conduct exercises using the Tochka-U missile systems near the Crimean borders
    ... And Shaw, Neptune and something else, it ended before it began?
  7. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis April 28 2021 13: 23
    0
    If Svidoukriya decides to provoke his "Tochka-U", then the end will be put in the modern history of Ukraine ...
  8. gurzuf
    gurzuf April 28 2021 13: 25
    0
    The Ukrainian press, covering information about the maneuvers, writes that the deployment was carried out in the immediate vicinity of the "occupied Crimea". It is also added that the Armed Forces of Ukraine "continue to guard the integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine." wink It reminded me of an episode of the film "The Adventure of Italians in Russia" when the mafioso left, and the lame-footed man said - Don't be angry, I will kill you!
  9. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General April 28 2021 13: 29
    +1
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces decided to conduct exercises using the Tochka-U missile systems near the Crimean borders

    Well, good luck, do they think rockets and an infinite resource?))
    1. Looking for
      Looking for April 28 2021 15: 03
      0
      the more victims there will be due to emergency situations, the better.
  10. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR April 28 2021 13: 31
    +1
    In general, I do not see the point of finding these old missile systems in service with any army. Very low hitting accuracy, the cost of maintaining and using this weapon speaks of its ineffectiveness. Scare and destroy the civilian population and destroy civilian infrastructure as the Armed Forces of Ukraine did in Donbas is their only purpose. For which the Ukrainian military should be tried as war crimes.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 28 2021 22: 42
      +1
      The Syrian army uses its Points from time to time (also very old)
      against militants. You are right, missiles are inaccurate, dangerous to civilians.
      Sometimes they hit the target, sometimes they fly away unpredictably. Sometimes they don't explode.
  11. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 28 2021 14: 16
    0
    Remind, the press secretary of which country a couple of weeks ago said that the troops on their territory do whatever they want
  12. tarakan
    tarakan April 28 2021 14: 35
    0
    Quote: Bshkaus
    Remind, the press secretary of which country a couple of weeks ago said that the troops on their territory do whatever they want

    There is a difference, I want Ukraine and I do Russia
  13. Looking for
    Looking for April 28 2021 15: 00
    0
    with all their kinship. they are ENEMIES !!!. and enemies must be destroyed.
  14. iouris
    iouris April 28 2021 16: 25
    -1
    If you do not even respond to such attacks, then soon you will be completely lowered.
  15. xorek
    xorek April 28 2021 16: 49
    0
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces decided to conduct exercises using the Tochka-U missile systems near the Crimean borders

    All these exercises are dangerous .. Some sort of Svidomo pan will press a button and a massacre will begin to the delight of the United States and others.
    Although, of course, our missile-missiles will intercept, but everything can be .. The issue with Ukraine needs to be resolved .. We have already got it! negative
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 29 2021 05: 51
    0
    The Ukrainian press, covering information about the maneuvers, writes that the deployment was carried out in the immediate vicinity of the "occupied Crimea"
    It is high time for these mzdobols to draw the red line.