The car with the Ukrainian military was blown up in the zone of responsibility of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The press center of the so-called operation of the united forces of Ukraine reports an incident with the Ukrainian military. The material says that an army car was blown up, in which there were soldiers of the operational-tactical group "North".

From the report:

As a result of a detonation on an unknown explosive device, one soldier received wounds and injuries incompatible with life. Three more servicemen were wounded.

The name of the Ukrainian serviceman who died in the explosion was also named. This is a 30-year-old senior sergeant Roman Gulyak from the city of Volochisk, Khmelnitsky region.

It is noteworthy that the car was blown up in the territory controlled by the Ukrainian troops. This once again testifies to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have problems with maps of minefields and single mines installed by units at different times during the military operation.

Earlier, there were cases when the commanders of some units, decreasing in rotation, tried to sell minefield maps to the commanders of other units replacing them near the contact line.

It also happens that at a certain time a Ukrainian checkpoint is located near a particular road, the approaches to which are mined by a "half ring" of explosive devices. After a while, the Ukrainian Armed Forces checkpoint is moved to another place or "disbanded", and the mines are forgotten. The Ukrainian military themselves come across these mines, including when patrolling the area.

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[aszzz888]

The Ukrainian military themselves come across these mines, including when patrolling the area.

Everything according to the Laws of Nature, you can't fool her!

[Terenin]

After a while, the Ukrainian Armed Forces checkpoint is moved to another place or "disbanded", and the mines are forgotten. The Ukrainian military themselves come across these mines ...

Already many times the APU has a "toad jump" in the wrong direction, with the separation of parts ...

[Normal ok]

Let's think logically. If a car was blown up, then it was blown up on the road and not in a mined field. The roads are all beaten. Those. the mine was delivered just yesterday.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Normal ok

Let's think logically. If a car was blown up, then it was blown up on the road and not in a mined field. The roads are all beaten. Those. the mine was delivered just yesterday.

Yes ,Yes ,Yes , Damn it ! Drunken APUs .

[Cananecat]

Quote: Insurgent

Yes, yes, yes, damn it! Drunk VSUshniki.

They don't drink that ... they smear it on bread ... and a mine fell out of their body and accidentally got into a combat platoon

[Insurgent]

Quote: Canecat

They don't drink that ... they smear it on bread ... and a mine fell out of their body and accidentally got into a combat platoon

And the fuse CAM "screwed in"

[hrych]

Quote: Insurgent

And the fuse CAM "screwed in"

Mova is to blame.

Maydauns read that you can't wear a mini (mini-bikini), these are such lace panties We looked at each other, they say, into underpants and forward to the minefield. Underpants in one direction, a fighter in the other, and Svidomo's head in the third ...

[Normal ok]

And, something sane to say is weak? Or is the training manual over?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Normal ok

something sane to say weakly?

The concepts of "sane" and APU are mutually exclusive.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Paranoid50

The concepts of "sane" and APU are mutually exclusive.

To some, " for their insulting "...

Quote: Normal ok

Fact. Been on business trips near Volnovakha.
All roads (even dirt roads) are fully exploited. The locals go there.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Normal ok

The roads are all beaten. Those. the mine was delivered just yesterday

But not a fact. Not the fact that all roads are driven. Maybe some forgotten lane ... on which the previous commander ordered to put a mine, and the one who replaced him did not want to "buy" this wandering ... although yes, I want to believe in the competent work of the DRG NM.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Canecat

But not a fact. Not the fact that all roads are driven.

Yes, come on ... Normal ok stated, "looking for a non-mobilization gunner"- you know more beautifully

[Normal ok]

Quote: Canecat

Quote: Normal ok

The roads are all beaten. Those. the mine was delivered just yesterday

But not a fact. Not the fact that all roads are driven. Maybe some forgotten lane ... on which the previous commander ordered to put a mine, and the one who replaced him did not want to "buy" this wandering ... although yes, I want to believe in the competent work of the DRG NM.

Fact. Been on business trips near Volnovakha.
All roads (even dirt roads) are fully exploited. The locals go there.

[gurzuf]

Logics - 0. Or do they ride on "parquet" SUVs on the asphalt? Also, according to your logic, traffic rules are strictly observed there.

[NIKN]

Quote: Normal ok

The roads are all beaten. Those. the mine was delivered just yesterday.

Who said it happened on the freeway? Maybe they wanted to take a shortcut, or they went around an obstacle like something spilled during the flood. From your conclusion, it turns out that the roads are being mined and that the military is undermining the mines remotely. If a run-down road, then anyone could have been blown up, I deeply doubt that the DRG will do this.

[Insurgent]

Quote: NIKNN

Who said it happened on the freeway?

Don't you dare argue! Vin know better ...

Quote: Normal ok

Been on business trips near Volnovakha.
All roads (even dirt roads) are fully exploited. The locals go there.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Normal ok

Let's reason logically. If a car was blown up, then it was blown up on the road and not in a mined field. The roads are all beaten. Those. the mine was delivered just yesterday.

You can reason as you want, but if logically, then the APU is generally not to do there. LDNR is not going to seize territories outside their administrative-territorial boundaries. If the Armed Forces go home, then there will be no losses, because the armed conflict will come to naught.
PS- while you, the Ukrainians, are making a fool of your head with the "aggression" of Russia, a certain part of your evil lord in Kuevo, including a good part of the generals, is stupidly cutting money in the war. The great boilerkeeper Geleta "fought" so well that he bought a mansion in England for 24 million pounds sterling, and the rest are worse or what? Everyone needs it. And the fact that Ukrainians with "skin rokim viiny" are becoming more and more poor, then little things, and they have enough lace panties for their eyes.

[private person]

The roads are all beaten. Those. the mine was delivered just yesterday.

Or maybe they installed it themselves and blew up during the installation process?

[Terenin]

Quote: Normal ok

The roads are all beaten. Those. the mine was delivered just yesterday.

Maybe, but as "twice two" before the start of the movement, especially the vehicles with l / s, engineering reconnaissance is carried out ahead.
All traffic areas. Always.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aszzz888

Everything is according to the Laws of Nature, you cannot deceive her!

God see everything.

[Insurgent]

This once again testifies to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have problems with maps of minefields and single mines installed by units at different times during the military operation.

Someday, finally, the war will end, and the problem of chaotic mining both sides in different periods of confrontation, will become purely our problem.

In November 2017, in our rear on the MON-50 banner installed and "forgotten", apparently back in 2014-2015, two militiamen were blown up while collecting firewood.
Since a mine overgrown with weeds exploded almost under the feet of the guys, the fragmentation impact was minimal. One fighter was torn off both legs + severe concussion, the second one was interrupted and added a little with fragments ...

In general, one man has no legs at all above the knees, the second has legs, but is very limited in mobility. Consider also disabled ...

And the most important thing is that earlier there everything was groomed "far and wide" and in the "cherries" the soldiers picked cherries in the summer ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Insurgent

while collecting firewood, two militias were blown up.

Quote: Insurgent

one man has no legs at all above the knees, the second - with legs, but very limited in mobility. Consider also disabled ...

Is there no way to help them? In the sense of ordering good dentures? In the end, Maresyev flew with prostheses and shot down the Nazis. If there is no money, maybe we would have chipped in here on VO?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Egoza

Is there no way to help them? In the sense of ordering good dentures? In the end, Maresyev flew with prostheses and shot down the Nazis. If there is no money, maybe we would have chipped in here on VO?

As far as I know, Valera had prostheses made in Russia, but multiple reoperations after a not entirely successful amputation, greatly complicated their use. And age, over fifty, makes itself felt.
Be that as it may, and Maresyev was much younger ...

In other matters, Elena, I will now drop you in a "personal" link to his "VK" page. Would you like, meet, maybe you will come up with something ...

[Ross xnumx]

The car with the Ukrainian military was blown up in the zone of responsibility of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Sudden crash, dust in the air -
It was a car blown up.
He was blown up by his own mine.
Unlucky "vseushny" car.

Mina was forgotten when changing position
Maybe the Nazis, maybe the police.
Accurate Minefield Maps:
For the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there is no problem more important.

But why are doubts gnawing?
It is unlikely that something will really help them.
There are many "souvenirs" scattered there -
This was what "Petrov" and "Boshirov" tried to do.

[TermNachTer]

Nature has nothing to do with it))) elementary greed of commanders. During rotation, a map of minefields is sold))) if the battalion commander is a redneck, he receives not a real, but an "official" map. And then explosions begin)))

[rocket757]

These mines are encountered by the Ukrainian military themselves, including when patrolling the area.

... The main thing is order in the troops ...
There is no order, the result will be sad.

[NDR-791]

Quote: rocket757

The main thing is order in the troops ...

In our. In theirs, we do not need order in spirit

[rocket757]

So this is a general rule ... but there really is anyone who can.

[Insurgent]

Quote: rocket757

... The main thing is order in the troops ...

[Normal ok]

Quote: rocket757

These mines are encountered by the Ukrainian military themselves, including when patrolling the area.

... The main thing is order in the troops ...
There is no order, the result will be sad.

There are always shoals in the army. Sometimes hard. When I was (in the USSR) I saw 4 200s in peacetime. One soldier incorrectly connected the IM-100 to the chain. The second one raised an unexploded shell at the test site. Two fell with the UAZ off a cliff (exercises Yug 90).

[rocket757]

Anything happened ... tragedy due to stupidity and so on.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

the Ukrainian Armed Forces have problems with maps of minefields and single mines

They don't have any problems with the cards.
No maps, no problem.

[Lech from Android.]

But there are mines ... anti-tank mines ... and they do not care where they are undermined ... the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has maps or not.

[Cowbra]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

No maps, no problem.

Don't belittle the "swithl wars." There are maps. They play at a point. What about? But tolerant

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Cowbra

They play at a point. What about? But tolerant

To be tolerant, they need to play not for a point, but for a point. Whoever lost is tolerated.

[Cowbra]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Whoever lost is tolerated.

Who disclosed to you the top-secret method of training Nata's unyielding allies? Tested for "brave Georgians ran" (c)

[Cowbra]

Petrov and Boshirov! ASTANAVITYAS!

[carstorm 11]

Not) they are busy. In Spain, ministry computers are hacked)

[Insurgent]

Quote: Cowbra

Petrov and Boshirov! ASTANAVITYAS!

[Cowbra]

It is also an option

[Romario Argo]

After Salzbury, on the way back, first in the Czech Republic, then in Ukraine. Their names are classified but we guessed

[Prisoner]

Gulyak took a walk. I would sit at home and live more.

[knn54]

Serving volunteers / contractors, non-professionals. They were given mines and said: "The enemy is ahead." They did not draw a sketch of the minefield right away. And then (not even a day passed) the positions were changed and the unit was leaving.
Well, if there is a sensible commander, at least put the plates.
Sappers are trained to find old, unexploded ammunition from the Second World War, put flags. Then others come, load and blow up in a safe place.
Today the situation is completely different. Sappers need to be trained to find modern mines and "homemade products", with a bunch of traps.

[Blue fox]

1.Are you so worried about the APU?
2. There is nothing better than the technique of the Second World War with those notorious flags about which you write, only division into areas with overlap and a detailed examination of each place marked with a flag will guarantee complete demining with a high probability. The situation now is absolutely no different from the times of the Second World War, because no one has canceled the laws of physics. Unless the range of metal detectors has expanded due to devices based on different operating principles, fluxgate magnetometers have appeared, for example. But they also give false signals, especially in the field of hostilities, so the grandfather's probe and a well-trained dog are all ours in the end.
As for the situation in the RF Armed Forces, sufficient attention is paid to the issues of demining and this is done, inter alia, on the basis of the modern experience of humanitarian demining and the most modern experience in Syria, although even there, after a remote robot, it will still be done manually, just in case, otherwise and with a dog :))
3. And yes, most VOPs are first moved by a cat to check for traps or even killed on the spot by detonation. And personally, I would have done just that, because even if we accept for consideration the nomenclature of Soviet anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, for many of them there is a fuse-trap, which is no different from the standard one and is triggered when you turn it out. And if not, then nobody is insured against the ML-8 booby-trap, and such things as POM-2 are generally forbidden to be removed, only destroyed on the spot.
A separate case is a mine or minefield with target seismic sensors, but, thank God, they are not so widespread and are more controllable, at least by those who installed them, and are also highly vulnerable due to dependence on power sources.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Blue Fox

1.Are you so worried about the APU?

It is clear that the question is addressed to another, but I must note that it is not a matter of "worries about the Armed Forces", but the fact that all this" happiness "sooner or later will get to us, like an echo of the occupation ...

[Shiden]

It is immediately clear that they did not serve, they read all sorts of nonsense and are in the comments. First of all, they are not professionals, but basic training in mine explosives, medicine, all communications go through before being sent to the front, they even teach conscripts. How do you imagine to draw a minefield on front, no, if you are the immortal Duncan McCloud, then you can draw. When they change, they give directions where to go are not recommended. The second is generally from the realm of fantasy.

Quote: knn54

Sappers are trained to find old, unexploded ammunition from the Second World War, put flags. Then others come, load and blow up in a safe place.

They find explosive objects of the Second World War civilians during excavation work and call in sappers.

[O. Bender]

Looks like the bubble burst first. The earth is glass wool.

[hagen]

Earlier, there were cases when the commanders of some units, decreasing in rotation, tried to sell minefield maps to the commanders of other units replacing them near the contact line.

An eloquent fact describing the moral and ethical qualities of the officers (!!!) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I remember how I was struck by a case when one helicopter pilot threw another wounded man down, after taking his weapon, somewhere in the summer of 2014. Apparently, earning on each other has become the norm for Ukraine. On the one hand, it is sad to see how the people are degrading. On the other hand, it is an enemy that manifests its weaknesses, which we need to use.

[Esaul]

They themselves started this war, for which they will pay with the complete collapse of the country and the loss of more than 50% of the territory.

[Semak]

servicemen of the operational-tactical group "North".

what a symbolic name. presumably there are also groupings "center" and "south"?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Semak

what a symbolic name. presumably there are also groupings "center" and "south"?

No, there are none. Against us and the LPR, there are two OTGs "North" and "Vostok", earlier in the period of "ATO" called OTG "Donetsk" and "Lugansk".

[Cowbra]

What is the PSA army group in? In general, you said correctly, but let's say that those who are not included in either there or there are also available. Anyway, Comrade Semak correctly hinted at the consistency of the names. And I won’t be surprised that the existing names - an echo of the fact that from the south - did not work out - there is a real Russian army and they will give you no second word.

[Irek]

Petrov? Boshirov?

[rotmistr60]

the car was blown up in the territory controlled by the Ukrainian troops

Day in and day out, they are slowly cleaning themselves. Either because of a drunkenness, or because of low-quality weapons, or simply out of sloppiness. And to hell with them.

[Metallurg_2]

There Petrov and Boshirov were spinning.

[Incvizitor]

Three more servicemen were wounded.

I hope the Banderlog will be disabled for the rest of their lives, the most fun they will be after this fascist genocide, when they will even spit in the face for the murder of women and children.

[Alexander Terentyev]

The relatives will be informed that the soldier was killed while defending the Motherland. But in fact, he ran into a mine, set by drunkenness by his own colleagues from a unit that was leaving for rotation.

[Evil 55]

Perhaps in their age-old manner "under the gas" they rushed for an additive, but straight out, but with songs ... that's why the punishment of God ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

It's a pity .. the car ..

[yfast]

Quote: Normal ok

And, something sane to say is weak? Or is the training manual over?

The air conditioner in the car was faulty and exploded.