South Korean developers are suspected of the death of the submarine: in Indonesia, the reasons for the flooding of Nanggala-402 are being investigated

In Indonesia, the reasons for the disaster of the submarine Nanggala-402 are being investigated. As it turns out, the submarine had a number of design defects that were made during its modernization at a South Korean shipyard.

According to a member of the House of Representatives Mayen Hasanuddin, quoted by Detik, the improvement of the submarine revealed shortcomings that could lead to the death of the ship. In general, he, along with the retired military, calls the modernization carried out by the South Koreans unsuccessful. The shipyard was tasked with strengthening the structure, adding new components and increasing the submarine's combat capability. However, in the end, 53 sailors sank with her in April of this year.

The South Koreans have been working on the submarine for two years and completed them in 2012, receiving $ 75 million for this.

There are changes in the design of the submarine, mainly related to torpedo weapons systems. In 2012, tests were carried out with the shooting of torpedoes, but they failed, since the launch of the torpedo did not take place due to the problematic cover of the device

- explains the deputy, pointing out that after this, the 1978 submarine was again repaired by a team from South Korea.

I suspect that as a result of these improvements, the design was broken, causing the sinking of Nanggala-402. This is very unfortunate

- Hasanuddin said, considering unscrupulous South Korean developers guilty of the death of the submarine.

According to him, in this regard, the submarine of the same type Cakra-401 should be disabled if the authorities want to avoid new casualties. In addition, Hasanuddin stressed that the number of the Nanggala-402 crew exceeded the design capacity, which should be only 38 people.

Comments

[Victor_B]

The investigation has just begun.
Everyone is shifting the blame on each other.
And if you have already managed to go to another country ... Bingo!
Fine!

[Lech from Android.]

We are waiting for the results of the commission's investigation, only after that we can discuss something.
A member of the House of Representatives jumped out too early with his suspicions ... all on emotions, he himself sometimes froze stupidity on his nerves.

[knn54]

"Until the thunder breaks out, the man does not cross himself."

[Popandos]

Thank God that there are no castles and churches in South Korea and Indonesia, otherwise our almighty Petrov and Boshirov will be dragged in again. Or can we still expect such a turn of events?

[Sergej1972]

There are Catholic churches in South Korea.

[Popandos]

To be honest, thanks a lot for the amendment. It turns out that over the past 10 years, the Catholic Church has developed greatly in South Korea. I was there in 2006-7, and European religions were not held in high esteem at that time.

[Sergej1972]

There, and their own religion is not particularly in high esteem. A tenth of the population is Catholics. And there are almost twice as many Protestants. That is, in aggregate, about 30 percent are Christians. A little more than 20% of Buddhists, that is, there are fewer of them than Christians. And so, in South Korea, one of the largest percentage of atheists, non-religious people in the world. 45% of the population do not consider themselves to be a religion. Although these Korean atheists are probably culturally and civilizationally closer to Buddhism and local beliefs. I don’t know for sure, but I’m not surprised that, like in China and Japan, there are people there who simultaneously consider themselves adherents of two or even three religions. In Japan, for example, the majority of believers are both Buddhists and Shintoists.

[Popandos]

Thanks for the help, I myself am far from religious questions.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Victor_B

The investigation has just begun.
Everyone is shifting the blame on each other.
And if you have already managed to go to another country ... Bingo!
Fine!

They took it off the tongue. But in reality, the Indonesians are so club-handed that they even ruined the Ordzhonikidze artillery cruiser (68 bis), which we gave them as a "brotherly" gift.

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

I'm afraid the names Petrov and Boshirov will soon surface again ...

[sanja.grw]

Interestingly, and the extra 15 people, what were they doing there?

[Lech from Android.]

Probably acceptance with contractors.

[Popandos]

Rather, cadets from the headquarters, maybe from other crews, the boat was going for shooting practice.

[da Vinci]

Were they like in a minibus in the aisles?

[Popandos]

Increasing the crew during exercises is normal practice. You can not imagine how many people on the boat during mooring and acceptance tests, an almost double team, naval and factory acceptance teams, goes to sea.

[aszzz888]

The Germans did it.

Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH

Modernized in South Korea.

The South Koreans have been working on the submarine for two years and completed them in 2012,

Why aren't the Germans?

[Alex777]

Not Germans, because South Korea is closer and cheaper.

[carstorm 11]

Normal) defects were found but the boat was still released on the hike? And now those who carried out this repair and modernization are to blame? And not the ones who took her after that and released her into the sea? What kind of circus is this ?!

[Old tanker]

Read carefully. The molding was already 2012. The same tests revealed a defect in the torpedo tube cover. Then he was eliminated. More than 8 years have passed since then! And there were no complaints about the Koreans. And then suddenly they decided to blame them ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Old Tankman

More than 8 years have passed since then! And there were no complaints about the Koreans. And then suddenly they decided to blame them ..

The Czechs showed an example how to look for the guilty. They can, but this is not? Now all over the world the chain of disclosures will be any accidents using "historical data". The main thing is that Petrova and Vasech, ugh, did not drag Bosharov here.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Old Tankman

Read carefully.

If you "read carefully", it follows that - Yes, there were problems with the TA covers, but they were eliminated. Otherwise, the Indonesians would not have accepted one and the acceptance certificate would not have been signed.
The author

calls the South Korean modernization unsuccessful. The shipyard had a task strengthen the structure, add new components and increase the combat capability of the submarine.

But what they did and what they added does not say ...
And this already reminds of an old Jewish joke, when Izya ordered a new vest from old pants, and then he still could not get used to the air ...
And one more thought. If they sin on the TA covers, then with the front open, the back one could not withstand the water pressure. Or, after the release of the TO, the replacement pipeline broke, and water rushed into the compartment with the front cover of the TA open. And then the differential grows to the bow, and the boat rolls down ...
Sadly all this ...

[Popandos]

How do you explain that the back cover must withstand the pressure of the maximum depth of torpedo firing, plus the pressure of the impulse when pushing the torpedo out of the TA? But the tired reinforcement could break, plus the great depth and high speed will leave no chance.
Dust Substitute is located behind a solid case, from which water, by default, cannot get into the inside of the compartment. VVD in the actuators of ventilation valves and kingstones is much higher than the outboard pressure

[Ros 56]

Nothing is known yet, but accusations have already poured in. If the Koreans screwed up, then where was the selection committee and where did she look? Oh well.

[rotmistr60]

They have already found the last one. And who carried out the acceptance of the boat, was it not the Indonesians? Someone is in a hurry to relieve themselves of responsibility.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: rotmistr60

They have already found the last one.

Not yet, but the process has started.

And who carried out the acceptance of the boat

Soon he may well say that the garbage is all about poor-quality repairs, since more than eight years ago there were no complaints against the Koreans, and the shortcomings were eliminated, so it is not those who took the boat to blame, but those who improperly operated and maintained it. so go to the tree stump.
The haircut has just started.

[nnm]

Interestingly, and those who took the boat after the repair are innocent in this case? Or were such remarks recorded in the transfer act?
An investigation is still underway, and politicians are doing everything to shift the responsibility onto anyone, just to be white and fluffy themselves.

[da Vinci]

"The South Koreans have been working on the submarine for two years and completed them in 2012, receiving $ 75 million for this." 9 years after the overhaul and no one noticed critical imperfections?

[Popandos]

To be honest, thanks a lot for the amendment. It turns out that over the past 10 years, the Catholic Church has developed greatly in South Korea. I was there in 2006-7, and European religions were not held in high esteem at that time.

[Fenia04]

Hasanuddin, considering unscrupulous South Korean developers guilty of the death of the submarine.

And those who accepted the job shouldn't be considered guilty?