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Polish press: Now even corn workers can be used in war

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In October last year, the Internet spread the news about Azerbaijan's use of Antonov An-2 aircraft in missions in Karabakh. Old "cornmen", as they are usually called in the countries of the former USSR, flew over the line of contact of the opponents and fell over the Armenian positions, hit by air defense fire.


The Polish edition of Do Rzeczy tells about this.

The Armenian military was very surprised that even now the "corn workers" can be used in the war. The Armenian side reported at least several cases when "the crew of the damaged vehicle did not even try to escape, to jump out with parachutes."

As noted by the Polish press, it later became clear that the Azerbaijanis had no intention of giving their lives for their homeland in this way, since they converted the Antonovs into unmanned aerial vehicles. Satellite images of the Yevlakh airport showed that there were several dozen An-2 biplanes prepared for the mission.

Soon it was reported that with the help of such unmanned aircraft, the Armenian S-300 complexes were allegedly destroyed. The Antonovs were used as bait to reveal their positions. They summoned air defense fire to determine their location. Then the Harop drones produced in Israel, which are used mainly to destroy radar stations, were connected to the action. Due to the fact that they were moving at low speed at low altitude, the Armenian radar stations did not notice them.

Since Harop is guided by the signal of the switched on radar, it can be noted the careless behavior of the Armenian air defense forces.

Thus, as the author of the Polish resource notes, even aviation, which, it would seem, is hopelessly outdated, now gets the opportunity in a new format to be used in modern warfare.
Photos used:
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  1. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 April 27 2021 16: 50
    +20
    As the practice of recent conflicts shows, any SUV, bulldozer, tractor can be used in hostilities, it all depends on those. and the financial capabilities of the parties.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 27 2021 16: 52
      +10
      Polish press: Now even corn workers can be used in war

      Of course, now the Poles want to consider themselves "involved" in the success of the Azerbaijani army in the operation in Karabakh, because Azerbaijan bought An-2 all over the world, including Poland, where until recently the "corn plant" was serially built under a Soviet license under CMEA ...
      1. Egoza
        Egoza April 27 2021 16: 58
        +3
        Quote: Insurgent
        now the Poles want to consider themselves "involved" in the success of the Azerbaijani army in the operation in Karabakh,

        At least somewhere to cling to! What about? Did you buy anything from Ukraine? Otherwise we, too, with pleasure, would have stood nearby.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 27 2021 17: 03
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          At least somewhere to cling to! What about? Did you buy anything from Ukraine? Otherwise we, too, with pleasure, would have stood nearby.

          Yes, it seems, like MLRS "Grad", and ATGM "Korsar", in some quantity Okraina supplied Azerbaijan.
          So, they are also involved in the process. They can write.
      2. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 April 27 2021 21: 59
        +3
        Until now, the maize is used in the training of cadets of pilot schools. An2 is still in service
      3. Albay
        Albay 2 May 2021 16: 34
        -1
        Greetings Insurgent. Azerbaijan did not buy these "corn makers" anywhere. They have stood at the airfield in dozens since Soviet times.
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  3. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator April 27 2021 16: 55
    +2
    Well? ... And what's wrong with that? It depends on who you are fighting with. And how the false target will come down.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 27 2021 17: 00
      +5
      Quote: Oleg Aviator
      Well? ... And what's wrong with that? It depends on who you are fighting with. And how the false target will come down.

      An-2 in an unmanned version in the Karabakh conflict had a double function - both as a "provocateur" - a false target, and as a kamikaze UAV stuffed with explosives.
      If they do not shoot down, then something will undermine ...
    2. aslanismaili611
      aslanismaili611 April 28 2021 10: 20
      0
      Yes, it was comical. The Armenian military happily took TV journalists with them. And with great foresight they approached our destroyed "Super Fortresses". It was funny to look at the Armenian militant and the first reactions of these journalists. To the next invitations of Armenians, foreign correspondents did not answer very correctly.
  4. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 April 27 2021 16: 57
    0
    If Armenia is Azerbaijan, then of course. In a confrontation with normal air defense, there is no chance even without illumination of the S-300 air defense system. For such "purposes" enough "Needle", "Willow", if left then and "Shilkoy".
    1. stepka_razin
      stepka_razin April 28 2021 04: 12
      +1
      For such "purposes" enough "Needle", "Willow", if left then and "Shilkoy"

      Here are just all the arrows, awls, etc. a week before the BLPA was destroyed ...
    2. Albay
      Albay 2 May 2021 16: 36
      0
      Alexander. Armenia has a single air defense system with Russia. This agreement has already been signed for 10 years. Plus Iran helped too.
  5. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik April 27 2021 16: 58
    +5
    Unmanned An-2 could bomb, they have 1,5 tons of payload, and conduct reconnaissance. Complete UAV.

    The Chinese presented this car 3 years ago, with the name Feihong 98, their copy of the An-2
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 27 2021 17: 18
      +4
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      The Chinese presented this car 3 years ago, with the name Feihong 98, their copy of the An-2

      Are mistaken , in China at a state plant in Nanchang, and later at the Shijiazhuang Aviation Corporation, the Chinese version (copy) of the AN-2 (Shijiazhuang U-5) aircraft began to be produced as far back as 1956, two years earlier than in Poland.

      And what you call "Feihong 98" and "copy of An-2" is actually the newest licensed unmanned modification "corn plant".
      1. DDZ57
        DDZ57 April 28 2021 17: 55
        0
        China also produces this version of the AN-2:
        the upgraded version of the Y-5, designated Y-5BG, is powered by the American Honeywell TPE331-12UAN 1100 hp turboprop engine. (similar to the latest Russian modernization of the An-2 under the designation TVS-2MS) and the Garmin G600TXI digital avionics complex.
  6. Kurare
    Kurare April 27 2021 17: 00
    +6
    In war, any tricks are good if they give a result. The Yugoslavs used microwave ovens as bait for anti-radar missiles until they learned to recognize and filter them.
    All this is good at first, and until the enemy found an antidote.
  7. Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 27 2021 17: 02
    +5
    Well done too. An open-ended solution.
    But lawn mowers are not to be sold there - well, they are nafik, they will also come up with something stop
    1. aslanismaili611
      aslanismaili611 April 28 2021 10: 52
      -1
      The humor is accepted and appreciated. But it’s not a bad idea: put on this mower a white sheet with a drip and a small Carlson propeller! Imagine yourself flying with a scythe ... Death! And the Armenians have a strong imagination. Yes, armvoyens would run to their native Los Angeles.
  8. knn54
    knn54 April 27 2021 17: 09
    +1
    I wonder who will be responsible for the fact that instead of direct purchases of modern air defense systems in the Russian Federation, rather old air defense systems "Osa AK" and "Strela" were purchased in third countries ???
  9. xorek
    xorek April 27 2021 17: 14
    -1
    Something else is whipping up hysteria around Karabakh .. They want to expel Russia! Pashinyan did not fully fulfill his mission, the goal of which is to play off us with Azerbaijan, Turkey, etc.
  10. Kushka
    Kushka April 27 2021 17: 42
    +1
    Quote: Murmur 55
    As practice shows ....., any ......, can be used in hostilities, it all depends on those. and the financial capabilities of the parties.


    In WWII, the Germans had a faustpatron, developed by engineers and serially
    manufactured at military factories. And our grandfathers had Molotov cocktails, which were "made" by their wives and children in semi-dark basements. So who is who near Moscow? Only to those listed in the quote (fin. Those, opportunities) something else is needed. And it was something of our grandfathers!
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP April 27 2021 18: 02
      0
      Well, how many grandfathers are left in those fields? How many German? The human resource is also a part of fintech opportunities, be that as it may.
      1. Kushka
        Kushka April 27 2021 18: 18
        +5
        I mean, you can't laugh at the enemy's weapons. This was not the case in my time. Any piece of iron kills like the same bottle. And about the grandfathers - the sled Ovcharenko Dmitry Romanovich (GSS) - was stopped on a cart by a unit of fascists from 50 people. He killed 21 with an ax, and two officers. So count how many weapons they had and what, against his ax. Here's a piece of iron. Here is the result of the neighing (Germans in this case)
        1. Sancho_SP
          Sancho_SP April 27 2021 19: 05
          0
          Such are the comrades Sukhovs, that would be a platoon with an ax - is also a resource. Single piece, at the level of measurement error.

          And on average, it is also possible with a Berdan on a tank, but not very profitable.
          1. Kushka
            Kushka April 27 2021 21: 07
            +5
            More about the "piece" resource - and again with an ax (not with a Berdanka) and ON THE TANK - corporal Ivan Sereda, the cook - stay alone with the field kitchen in the grove, with the help of this ax a fascist tank crew (together with a tank) was taken prisoner, for which he was credited as a scout, where again
            performed a feat - blew up a tank and destroyed a dozen motorcyclists and became the GSS.
            But you are right - "not profitable", I agree. But to laugh, and to let go of spices, like "penguin, pregnant
            from a kangaroo "about the enemy's weapons - stupidity (to put it mildly). In my time, we read the" paper "magazine" Foreign Military Review "(at one time it was delivered in a sealed envelope) and such a tone was unacceptable.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver April 27 2021 22: 52
      +1
      Quote: Kushka
      In the Second World War, the Germans had a faustpatron, developed by engineers and mass-produced at military factories. And our grandfathers had Molotov cocktails, which were "made" by their wives and children in semi-dark basements. So who is who near Moscow?

      Well, how many faust cartridges were used near Moscow? Answer: 0 (zero, zero).
      1. Kushka
        Kushka April 28 2021 12: 31
        0
        Because, probably, on our side, instead of tanks, there was Budyonny's cavalry.
    3. Edvid
      Edvid April 28 2021 01: 41
      -2
      In the USSR, work on the creation of the first prototypes of rocket-propelled grenade launchers was brought to field tests in 1931 - 1936! ... But since all rocket developments were supervised by Tukhachevsky (who was the only one in the highest echelon of power who understood the prospects of this direction), and he was declared an "enemy of the people ". The Stalinist clique decided that the jet design bureaus were also sabotage, so they were dispersed - the leading specialists were shot, the smaller ones were transferred to the GULAG ...
      1. stepka_razin
        stepka_razin April 28 2021 04: 14
        0
        that poor again you all sat in the GULAG? lol
      2. Aleksandr97
        Aleksandr97 April 28 2021 08: 38
        +1
        Don't tell my slippers! Stalin's CLICK wassat For example, S.P. Korolev wrote DONOS: Kleimenova, Langemaka, Glushko; testimony of witnesses: Smirnov, Rokhmachev, Kostikov, Shitov, Efremov, Bukin, Dushkin. S.P. Korolev - he himself wrote denunciations of Kleymenov, Slonimer, Kostikov, Dedov, Dushkin, Kalyanov, Langemak, Glushko. Full name - do not say anything ???? We wrote denunciations of colleagues because of competition, in this case ...
        The enormity of the repressions was a consequence of the consideration in principle of anonymous denunciations and the TOTAL lack of NORMAL work of the investigating authorities !! And 2 million denunciations were not written by the Stalinist clique !!!!
        1. Aleksandr97
          Aleksandr97 April 28 2021 08: 42
          0
          By the way, work in the 30s on helicopter technology in the USSR was also ditched due to denunciations and mutual defeat of design groups.
  11. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP April 27 2021 18: 01
    0
    I was more surprised that such a tactic had not been used before.

    The cost of anti-aircraft missiles has long been many times higher than large aircraft models.

    Even a simple reconnaissance vehicle can be covered with a dozen of the simplest decoys.
    1. DDZ57
      DDZ57 April 28 2021 17: 53
      +2
      The tactics of provoking anti-aircraft missile launchers and their subsequent destruction were tested and worked out by Israel in the Bekaa Valley in 1982 during the Artsakh-19 operation.
  12. bars1
    bars1 April 27 2021 19: 36
    +2
    Quote: Kushka
    And about the grandfathers - the sled Ovcharenko Dmitry Romanovich (GSS) - was stopped on a cart by a unit of fascists from 50 people. Killed 21 with an ax, and two officers

    Super! There were "iron" people!
    1. Kushka
      Kushka April 27 2021 21: 10
      +2
      Look - a field kitchen against a tank.
      Cook, corporal Ivan Sereda - with an ax on a tank -
      the tank broke, the crew was taken prisoner.
      1. Kaw
        Kaw April 28 2021 16: 49
        0
        And then the author of these stories emigrated to India and became a Bollywood screenwriter. smile
        1. Kushka
          Kushka April 28 2021 17: 54
          0
          ??
          By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of August 31, 1941 "for the exemplary fulfillment of combat missions of the command on the front of the struggle against the Nazi invaders and the courage and heroism shown at the same time" the Red Army soldier Ivan Pavlovich Sereda was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union with the award of the Order of Lenin and the medal "Gold Star ".
          The award to I.P. Sereda was solemnly presented in October 1941 on the North-Western Front. According to the recollections of fellow soldier IP Sereda V. Bezvitelnova, his AX was stored in the unit as a military relic [8]. The feat of Ivan Sereda was widely popularized during the war years and was reflected on Soviet propaganda posters. Subsequently, this led to the fact that many began to believe that "the cook Sereda" is a myth, but the reality of Ivan Sereda and his exploits are documented [9].
          From October 10 to November 23, 1941, IP Sereda commanded a platoon of the 4th rifle regiment of the 46th rifle division of the 1st shock army, participated in the defense of Leningrad [10]. Then, from November 27 to January 5, 1942, he took part in the battle for Moscow, commanded a company of the 7th Infantry Regiment of the 185th Infantry Division of the 30th Army [11].
          In February 1942 he was seriously wounded [2]. In 1942, IP Sereda graduated from advanced training courses for command personnel, and in 1944 - the Novocherkassk Cavalry School [1]. Guard Senior Lieutenant IP Sereda served as an assistant to the chief of food and economic supplies of the 8th Guards Cavalry Regiment of the 2nd Guards Cavalry Division [2].
          In the period from April 14 to May 3, 1945, despite the separation of the cavalrymen from the supply bases and the complexity of the combat situation, he reliably provided the personnel with food and ammunition. This allowed the regiment to successfully conduct battles, which was noted by the regiment commander: on May 21, 1945, IP Sereda was awarded the Order of the Patriotic War, II degree [2].
          In 1945 he was transferred to the reserve with the rank of senior lieutenant. He worked as the chairman of the village council in the village of Aleksandrovka, Donetsk region [1].
  13. Piramidon
    Piramidon April 27 2021 23: 39
    +3
    Koreans have been using An-2 as an attack aircraft for a long time
  14. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 28 2021 01: 15
    +3
    Have tribolts learned not to lower the handbrake? In a war, in general, everything can be used, for example - brains, for them this is also a surprise?