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Motorized riflemen of the Kantemirovskaya tank division will replace the BMP-2 with the BMP-3

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Motorized rifles of the 4th Guards tank The Kantemirovsk divisions will be rearmed, replacing the BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles with the BMP-3. The receipt of new equipment will begin next year.


The Ministry of Defense decided to re-equip the 423rd Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment of the Yampol Regiment, as well as motorized rifle battalions from the Kantemirovskaya Tank Division, with BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles. Reportedly "News", the arrival of new equipment is planned from the beginning of 2022, first the 423 regiment will be rearmed, then the turn will come to the battalions. The timing of rearmament will depend on the rate of delivery of the BMP-3. Currently, motorized riflemen are armed with BMP-2.

The decision to re-equip was made to strengthen the firepower of the motorized rifle division, which is the strike force of the Western Military District. The tankers are armed with more than two hundred T-80 tanks with gas turbine engines. It is planned that the BMP-3 with its weapons and enhanced protection will be able to better support tanks in the event of a military conflict than the already outdated BMP-2.

The BMP-3M infantry fighting vehicle is armed with a 100mm gun - a 2A70 launcher with a 30mm 2A72 automatic cannon and a 7,62mm PKTM machine gun. BMP is designed to transport personnel to the front line, increase the mobility, armament and security of military personnel on the battlefield in conditions of the use of nuclear weapons and joint actions with tanks in battle.

In early April, Rostec announced the modernization of the BMP-3, during which the car will receive a new UTD-32T engine with a capacity of 660 hp. and a thermal imaging panoramic sight of the commander.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 27 2021 09: 12
    +11
    Hmm ... I thought the "capital" division was on them for a long time. And it looks like it turns out.
    1. seti
      seti April 27 2021 09: 20
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Hmm ... I thought the "capital" division was on them for a long time. And it looks like it turns out.

      As for the "metropolitan", I would have kept silent, but the news is good. Although, of course, I personally would prefer not the BMP-3, but the Kurgan and the T-15. And in a short time.
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        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 27 2021 09: 42
          +11
          Generally, they are rearming all units in the western direction.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 April 27 2021 15: 25
            +2
            Quote: alexmach
            Generally, they are rearming all units in the western direction.

            And there are already a lot of BMP-3s, I wonder?
          2. bayard
            bayard April 27 2021 23: 30
            0
            I thought that BMP-3 will be built in the "Dragoon" version now, but it turns out that not yet.
            It's a pity, it turned out to be a good car.
      2. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins April 27 2021 10: 30
        +2
        Is Naro-Fominsk far from the capital? And whose equipment is necessarily involved in Moscow parades?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 27 2021 09: 28
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Hmm ... I thought the "capital" division was on them for a long time. And it looks like it turns out.

      You need to be precise in the name of the division. 4th Guards Tank Kantemirovskaya Order of Lenin, Red Banner Division named after Yu.V. Andropov.
      1. Alexey Koshkarov
        Alexey Koshkarov April 27 2021 16: 18
        +3
        Generally two Orders of Lenin, twice Red Banner
    3. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 27 2021 21: 36
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Hmm ... I thought the "capital" division was on them for a long time. And it looks like it turns out.

      I also thought so, the "courtiers" divisions could have re-equipped earlier ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 April 27 2021 09: 23
    +9
    But I'm not happy with this news, if the rearmament took place on the Kurganets or at least on the Dragoon, and so ... The BMP-3 is very outdated and itself a long-time military vehicle requiring replacement
    1. max702
      max702 April 27 2021 09: 40
      -1
      Better than the BMP-3, they did not come up with anything, as well as better than the armament of this complex "Bakhcha-U".
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 27 2021 10: 23
        +2
        Quote: max702
        Better than the BMP-3, they did not come up with anything, as well as better than the armament of this complex "Bakhcha-U

        Long ago invented
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 11: 21
          +3
          What is it?
    2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 09: 58
      +3
      As I understand it, "Dragoon" is a return to the layout with a front engine and rear landing, which again creates not very comfortable conditions for a long ride with body swing.
      And the information on the combat module is not very detailed. If this is an epoch module with a 57 mm low ballistics cannon, then the vehicle will change dramatically.
      And the situation in the production of such equipment became more complicated, the Kurgan plant became practically a monopoly, after the liquidation of the Volgograd Tractor Plant, where only a few military workshops remained.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 27 2021 10: 24
        +3
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        As I understand it, "Dragoon" is a return to the layout with a front engine and rear landing, which again creates not very comfortable conditions for a long ride with body swing.

        Yes, and with a large ramp for exit and entry, and not as on the "basic" model to run on the roof of the MTO
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 10: 37
          +2
          For me, the location of the landing force in the stern is a very controversial decision, long trips in a completely filled compartment are impossible, there is a lot of motion sickness.
          1. Doctor
            Doctor April 27 2021 11: 44
            +4
            For me, the location of the landing force in the stern is a very controversial decision, long trips in a completely filled compartment are impossible, there is a lot of motion sickness.

            You can still endure motion sickness, but the fact that the combat module was thrown in the center ... fool

        2. max702
          max702 April 27 2021 13: 05
          +13
          I strongly recommend all local "experts" to get acquainted with the opinion of the person who served on the BMP-3 .. there are given answers to many questions that are considered "generic problems of the troika ..
          BMP-3. View from behind the armor https://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2013/07/3.html
          I hasten to make a reservation right away: I am not an “expert on armored vehicles,” moreover, I don't even have the desire to become one. The fact is that among the so-called "experts" who write about "how bad our BMP is" or "what kind of BMP is needed by Russia," I see pundits carefully studying the experience of world and domestic tank building, who know all about our, American and Israeli combat vehicles.
          Boris KOROTKOV
          But knowing all this only from scientific articles and theories of each other. I belong to another category - the category of practitioners, those who by fate had not to study articles in journals, but at night to study “Technical Description and Operation Guide”. And in the morning, together with the driver-mechanics, the gunner operators and the senior company technician, bring the subtracted at night, invented on this basis in insomnia and seen under the open hatches, “slate” and “polik” to a common denominator. I am proud that in the quarter century of service in the Armed Forces I have mastered quite well the operation of the BMP-1, and the BMP-2, and the BMP-3. And it was necessary to squeeze out from them everything that they were capable of, not according to TTH, but according to their actual condition. In other words, I am an officer who has extensive experience in operating these machines in the real world of wars and conflicts.
          FIRST ACQUAINTANCE WITH "SWALLOWS"
          My acquaintance with the BMP-3 and service on these machines were a bit ridiculous. At the school (Omsk VOKU) we were taught on the BMP-2 and the BTR-80, and in the troops the first machine I had to master and operate was the BMP-3. Later, in the North Caucasus Military District, he switched to BMP-2, and then had to fight on BMP-1 and machines based on it. Then again the BMP-2 and, finally, the native swallow - “three points”.
          In the school, at the department of weapons and shooting, we were taught the composition of the BMP-3 weapons, but all according to posters and stands. You could see the car itself while on guard in the park of training vehicles and at its exit to the training ground, when the BMP-3 rushed past the cadets along the tank road. Even then, attention was drawn to how the car goes over irregularities - the body literally floats in the air, and only the road wheels work out all the pits, potholes and bumps ..
          .Further read the link..https: //gurkhan.blogspot.com/2013/07/3.html
          1. Radikal
            Radikal April 27 2021 23: 11
            +2
            Good article on the link. good hi
            1. max702
              max702 April 27 2021 23: 37
              +3
              Quote: Radikal
              Good article on the link. good hi

              I wrote about that that the BMP-3 is the most balanced BMP to date, no one has created anything like that. And it will be difficult to do what better .. 57mm is a step back, during the design we considered this option but refused because of poor action both in the BT and in the infantry, and the small ammo was the verdict .. Now this "marine" module is trying to attach to the SV UVZ because the series is possible not small, and with it and pennies .. The fact that no one needs this is the case .. The three need a new centered control system, projectiles with programmable detonation, a new ATGM, it would be nice to have a more modern engine .. And that's it! There is no need to fundamentally change anything at the current level of technological development, it is better not to do it ..
    3. CastroRuiz
      CastroRuiz April 27 2021 11: 04
      -1
      I agree. BMP Dragoon is and eats modernization and enhancement of functionality.
    4. BARKAS
      BARKAS April 27 2021 11: 21
      +3
      Kurgan residents are unlikely to be enough in the near future for a division, if tomorrow it is better to fight on a BMP-3 than an BMP-2, the logic is probably that.
    5. Cympak
      Cympak April 27 2021 13: 48
      -1
      It is possible that the BMP-3 will go not with a "troika", but with a new BM "Epoch" (AP 57-mm, PKT, 4 "Kornets", 8 "Bulatov"
    6. bayard
      bayard April 27 2021 23: 38
      -2
      Quote: svp67
      if the rearmament took place on the Kurganets or at least the Dragoon,

      "Dragoons" are better - not so bulky, practically not inferior in security, better armed, both have a troop compartment for 8 people. But the price is much cheaper, which means it is more affordable. And the industry will be easier to master.
      The engine is 816 horses and weighs 21 tons. If we compare the dimensions of the Kurganets and its weight of 25 tons, then in terms of armor and protection, the Dragoons should not be inferior to anything. And its side screens are the same as on the Kurganets. And on this chassis it is possible to implement a light tank (with a reinforced turret from the "Sprut"), and self-propelled guns and a number of other specialized vehicles.
      With "Kurganets" everything is more complicated. It was not for nothing that they called it "The Dream of a Grenade Launcher" at the first screening.
  3. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 April 27 2021 09: 25
    +2
    The western district is being strengthened. But you also need to look to the South, because I do not believe that when the Taliban, after the withdrawal of Asashay and Nata's troops, seize the entire territory of Afgan, suddenly Michurinists and agronomists from drugs will not rush to the north as part of the outgoing poisonous merchants of the former Northern Alliance. And there are frail and corrupt curtains of Tajik border guards, which have long been bought and overbought by caravan men from the southern country.
    Crimea is covered more than ever, but it never needs to be fortified. The Kurils are waiting, Kamchatka and the Eastern Military District. Still, Maskva and the Western direction are not all of Russia, which needs to be covered.
    1. figwam
      figwam April 27 2021 09: 56
      -1
      Quote: mojohed2012
      The Kurils are waiting, Kamchatka and the Eastern Military District.

      For a long time already, there have been deliveries of modernized T-80BM, BMP-3, BTR-82A tanks.
  4. International Observer
    International Observer April 27 2021 09: 59
    -9
    Motorized riflemen of the Kantemirovskaya tank division will replace the BMP-2 with the BMP-3

    The first sample of the BMP-3 was illegally exported to the United States under Yeltsin. There he was studied and recognized as an almost ideal means of supporting the infantry ... Almost twenty years have passed. All the advanced achievements inherent in the BMP-3 of the United States have long been devalued by numerous upgrades of their equipment and updating of its model range, i.e. the designers of the BMP-3 were betrayed by the politicians and bureaucrats of the Yeltsin RF-fii ... And now, when the BMP-3 became as unnecessary as the BMP-2, ... the news comes out - look, the Kantemirovsk division is re-equipping with "new" equipment! )) ...
    Well, this is undoubtedly news ... for young people and idiots - the first lives have not yet been seen, and the second she has not taught anything.
    As the Russian soldier died in vain for the betrayed and abandoned - and he is dying to this day, as the general and the official stuffed their belly, pockets and suitcases - and they fill it. Such a feeling sometimes happens that all this time we crawled and ran and shot in the wrong direction.
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 10: 17
      +2
      About the uselessness of the BMP-2 and BMP-3 is somehow prohibitively sharp and unconvincing.
      1. International Observer
        International Observer April 27 2021 10: 23
        -7
        I served in the Kantemirovsk division, by education I am a military engineer, the rest is no longer secret, you can find it on YouTube ... have I convinced you?
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 10: 34
          +1
          In return, then what?
          1. International Observer
            International Observer April 27 2021 10: 36
            .
            As I said, today everything is ON YUTUBE ... let's finish the personal correspondence in the comments section of the article.
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 10: 46
              0
              So far, I only saw concern about the belly, pockets and suitcases, and not any reasoned position.
              1. International Observer
                International Observer April 27 2021 11: 00
                -9
                about youth and idiots is written above in the text
                1. hydroy
                  hydroy April 27 2021 18: 26
                  +1
                  no specifics, but fucking shit, engineer
  5. Primipilus
    Primipilus April 27 2021 10: 28
    +3
    The BMP-3 ATGM will not penetrate more than one modern NATO tank in the forehead. BMP-3 is technically outdated.
    1. International Observer
      International Observer April 27 2021 10: 33
      -4
      I beg you very much, address your comment also personally to the user "Sergey Aleksandrovich", thank you in advance ... it will never reach him what kind of "novelty" this is - BMP-3.
      1. ultra
        ultra April 27 2021 10: 39
        +5
        Quote: International Observer
        it will never reach him what kind of "novelty" this is - BMP-3.

        It cannot be a novelty because it was developed in the 80s, but at this stage it is the best that we produce in series, so it is quite natural to replace twos.
        1. International Observer
          International Observer April 27 2021 10: 43
          -5
          I wrote that and put the words "novelty" in quotes the same so that the novelty is not a novelty at all (see my comments above).
      2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 10: 44
        -3
        Since you are so well informed, can you reveal what kind of combat module will be on the new BMP-3 for the Kantemirovsk division?
    2. ultra
      ultra April 27 2021 10: 37
      +2
      Quote: Primipilus
      The BMP-3 ATGM will not penetrate more than one modern NATO tank in the forehead.

      Such a task has never been set.
      1. International Observer
        International Observer April 27 2021 10: 39
        .
        You've never seen an enemy tank approaching, right? I guess your IQ is also not very high ...?
        1. ultra
          ultra April 27 2021 10: 41
          +7
          As far as I understand, you personally took part in the Battle of Kursk? wassat
          1. International Observer
            International Observer April 27 2021 10: 46
            .
            I answered you quite seriously (see my other comments), but you did not understand ... about youth and idiots is written above in the text.
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 11: 06
              +5
              It is difficult to take your verbal diarrhea seriously.
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova April 27 2021 12: 02
          +3
          insulting your opponent is a sign of your low IQ
      2. Primipilus
        Primipilus April 27 2021 10: 43
        +1
        And why then ATGM-anti-tank guided missile. Understand a car that started in the 1980s cannot be modern in 2021.
        1. ultra
          ultra April 27 2021 10: 46
          +8
          And besides tanks, there are no targets on the battlefield? If for garlic, then even the kinetics in service with our tanks will have big problems with the penetration of the frontal armor of the tanks of our potential partners.
          1. International Observer
            International Observer April 27 2021 10: 48
            .
            about youth and idiots is written above in the text.
          2. nonsense
            nonsense April 27 2021 10: 50
            -3
            even the kinetics in service with our tanks will have big problems with the penetration of the frontal armor of the tanks of our potential partners.

            And we (you) know this only from the words of the "probable partners" themselves! Those. from the words of those who allegedly flew to the moon and found chemical weapons from Saddam ... Isn't that funny?
            1. ultra
              ultra April 27 2021 13: 23
              0
              Does the case have something to say?
          3. Primipilus
            Primipilus April 27 2021 11: 33
            -2
            Even when faced with the BMP M2 Bradley or the Puma, the Troika have little chance of winning.
            1. Irbiz123
              Irbiz123 April 27 2021 12: 35
              +4
              Quote: Primipilus
              Even when faced with the BMP M2 Bradley or the Puma, the Troika have little chance of winning.

              Where does this information come from?
        2. Graz
          Graz April 27 2021 16: 15
          -1
          both raving and English warriors started in the 80s and are still in service today. the main thing is to change outdated components on the machine in time
    3. ZeeD
      ZeeD April 27 2021 12: 31
      -1
      But does the BMP-3 have the task of fighting in the same formation with the tanks on the first line, in order to punch modern MBT in the forehead with something? Or is it "designed to transport personnel to the front line"?
      It seems that in this context of application, she does not need to punch any MBT in the forehead.
      1. Primipilus
        Primipilus April 27 2021 13: 54
        +2
        BMPs were originally conceived for joint actions with tanks. The transportation of personnel to the front edge is carried out by an armored personnel carrier.
    4. Irbiz123
      Irbiz123 April 27 2021 12: 33
      +1
      The BMP-3 ATGM will not penetrate more than one modern NATO tank in the forehead. BMP-3 is technically outdated.

      What imported light BMP will penetrate a tank into the front projection?
      Why rave about that?
      1. Primipilus
        Primipilus April 27 2021 13: 39
        +1
        For God's sake are you serious? Polish "Wolverine" "Spike" even BMP-2 "Cornet"
  6. nonsense
    nonsense April 27 2021 10: 39
    +2
    lol come on! Not even 40 years have passed since they are rearming ...
    PS: according to the logic of the development of technology, it would be time to re-equip with some kind of spaceborne assault glider ...
    1. International Observer
      International Observer April 27 2021 10: 41
      -8
      That's right, only instead of gliders there are more real samples of technology, but the fools in uniform and suits again stood on the handbrake.
      1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich April 27 2021 11: 02
        +3
        Are they really fools or are you greatly exaggerating your intelligence and IQ?
        1. International Observer
          International Observer April 27 2021 11: 16
          -7
          )) I'm not exaggerating anything, I know the exact meaning)) mental abilities and IQ are one and the same)) ... calm down already "young man".
          1. alexmach
            alexmach April 27 2021 12: 50
            +2
            mental ability and IQ

            By the way, no.
  7. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz April 27 2021 11: 02
    -9
    BMP-3M pseudomodernizatsiya.
    BMP Dragoon beat a step forward and added functionality when the T-14 is not present.
  8. Irbiz123
    Irbiz123 April 27 2021 12: 14
    0
    In normal countries, they first supply their army, and sell the replaced equipment, but here everything is the other way around: with a sapper shovel and vests for their own new tanks from "partners" ...
  9. Termit1309
    Termit1309 April 27 2021 12: 26
    0
    Quote: International Observer
    )) I'm not exaggerating anything, I know the exact meaning)) mental abilities and IQ are one and the same)) ... calm down already "young man".

    Now, if, in addition to spelling, you would also understand military equipment.
  10. Graz
    Graz April 27 2021 16: 11
    +1
    not even 30 years have passed. what will happen to the Kurgan then and when it reaches the troops in the end
  11. Barberry25
    Barberry25 April 27 2021 18: 18
    -2
    The BMP-3 is a good car, and the BMP-3M is great ... but if you still give birth and put a thick-walled gun and bring in normal 100 mm BOPS ... it will be one of the best in the world ... This is IMHO) soldier
    1. ZeeD
      ZeeD April 27 2021 18: 22
      +2
      Are you sure that the BMP-3 will withstand the recoil of a thick-walled gun with a powerful BOPS? There is not much armor, the roof is thin ... It's still not a tank.
      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 April 27 2021 18: 28
        -1
        for the Airborne Forces they made Object 934, it had a mass of 17,5 tons and the gun was 100 mm, the Sprut-SDM had a chassis in fact from it .. and a 125 mm gun .. so there will be no problems .. The maximum that is needed is modern 100 mm bops ..but taking into account what the same Indians want for themselves, it would be possible to offer a universal car ... and for us an BMP with a 100 cannon, which from 3 km will hole any modern BMP ... it will not hurt to have
        1. ZeeD
          ZeeD April 27 2021 18: 35
          0
          A good BOPS will not punch something just at the snap of your fingers. BOPS must fly at high speed in order to punch a lot. Accordingly, a large "powder" charge is needed, another weapon ... And they immediately give a significant return. Look at the projectile speed of the MBT guns and the same Octopus.
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 April 27 2021 18: 37
            -1
            And? Just 125 mm shells for the Octopus are normal, and 100 mm shells for the BMP-3 are not normal? Not to mention that the BMP-3 is corny heavier by several tons .. And even with a "weakened" charge, there will be penetration 150 mm from 3 km ... I don't remember anything from light and medium BMPs that would hold such a shot
            1. ZeeD
              ZeeD April 27 2021 18: 48
              0
              No, that knocking out the enemy's BMP is enough and the weapon is not MBT - you are right. With this I do not argue at all.
              Just under a powerful BMP gun, finishing will require noticeable (both the turret and the hull with the gun). And not that they took and just put on a new one.
              1. Barberry25
                Barberry25 April 27 2021 19: 59
                -1
                Well, technically, the hull of a weaker octopus-sdm is enough for a more powerful weapon, I will have to redo it by itself in terms of rollback, I think, but I would ventilate this question .. all the same the theoretical benefit will cover any costs .. After all, in fact, even the tank will not be good if a bops will fly into his side
                1. ZeeD
                  ZeeD April 27 2021 21: 44
                  0
                  In the side, it will not be good for anyone. Even from BOPS 57mm)
  12. Old tanker
    Old tanker April 27 2021 18: 20
    -2
    The news is definitely good news. For a long time Kantemura had to change the BMP-2. Troika is a good car, well-established in production, getting rid of childhood illnesses, reliable and easy to operate. With powerful weapons and an updated fire control system. It is such a machine that Kantemirovtsy need now. The main striking force in the Western direction. The new "Kurgan" will be brought to mind for a long time when they enter the troops. And it is better to go into battle on a proven and mastered technique.