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The great navigator Fernand Magellan died 500 years ago

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The great navigator Fernand Magellan died 500 years ago
Fernand Magellan, portrait by an unknown artist of the XNUMXth century. Uffizi Gallery


Fernand Magellan, along with Christopher Columbus, was an outstanding navigator of his time. Even if you counted crows in your geography class, you still heard about the Strait of Magellan. This strait between the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean was discovered by Fernand Magellan and named after him.

If Columbus dreamed of finding a short sea route from Europe to India and by chance coincidence discovered America, then Fernand Magellan was obsessed with another idea. The dream of the Portuguese navigator was to make the first round-the-world voyage around the Earth and forever inscribe his name in history.

With the latter, Magellan definitely succeeded. His name is heard even after half a thousand years after a perfect trip. True, for Magellan himself, who had previously taken part in various battles, the trip around the world ended in death. Exactly 500 years ago, on April 27, 1521, the navigator was killed in a battle with the inhabitants of the island of Mactan in the Philippines.

How Fernand Magellan got into the Navy


The future navigator and discoverer of new lands was born on November 20, 1480 in Portugal in the small town of Ponti da Barca. It is believed that he came from a provincial noble family, which, although he was a noble, by that time was practically in decline. The fact that Magellan was still from a fairly noble family is evidenced by the fact that in his youth he was a page in the royal family of Leonora of Aviss.

Childhood and adolescence of Magellan fell on the period of the Great Geographical Discoveries. Naturally, he heard about the voyage of Columbus, and about the voyage of his compatriot Vasco da Gama, who in 1498 opened the sea route to India for Portugal. It was after Vasco da Gama that one squadron after another pulled out of the country to conquer new lands in the east.


Monument to Magellan in Chile

Moreover, each such expedition required more and more new personnel, and over time there were fewer and fewer experienced sailors, captains and navigators. In 1505, when the squadron of Viceroy Francisco de Almeida was sent from Portugal, there were really not enough sailors, and almost everyone was recruited into the fleet. In this expedition, which became the first for him, Fernand Magellan took part as a supernumerary warrior (sobresaliente).

At that time, he was known by his Portuguese surname de Magalhães, Later he changed it to the Spanish manner. After he fell out with the king of Portugal and offered his services to the Spanish crown. But it was in 1505, back in Portugal, that his naval career and adventures around the world began.

It is unlikely that Magellan deliberately planned a career as a navigator. Rather, he was drawn into the funnel of the great geographical discoveries and the desire of Portugal and Spain to conquer more and more lands in the struggle for resources and influence. But, being drawn into these campaigns and sea life, Magellan was saturated with them through and through. He returned to Lisbon from numerous campaigns only in the summer of 1512, having managed to take part in many battles in India. Magellan no longer imagined his life without voyages and adventures.

How a Portuguese navigator becomes Spanish


After returning home, Magellan was entitled to a pension of up to 1850 reais, but it was not large enough to discourage the seafarer from re-establishing himself in the service. In 1514, Fernand Magellan takes part in hostilities on the territory of modern Morocco, where in one of the battles he is wounded in the leg (after that he will limp for the rest of his life). In another battle near Magellan, a horse was killed. In total, he was wounded in battles at least twice.

There, in Morocco, an incident occurred that caused the wrath of the Portuguese king. Magellan was tasked with guarding the cattle taken from the Moors, after which someone accused him of secretly selling part of the protected booty back to the Moors. This story so angered Fernand Magellan that he voluntarily left Africa and got to Portugal to justify himself. At the same time, the unauthorized actions of Magellan caused the anger of the king of Portugal, and the nobleman himself was forced to return to his place of service.


First sea round-the-world expedition

In Africa, all charges against Magellan were dropped. But the sediment, as they say, remained. Fernand Magellan decided to retire officially and return to his homeland. Already at home, he has the idea of ​​sailing, which will become the journey of his whole life.

Perhaps the idea of ​​a circumnavigation of the world appeared in Magellan's head even earlier during the battle for the port of Malacca in southeast Asia (in modern Malaysia). Magellan took part in this campaign back in 1511. 19 ships in this expedition were able to take the city, which came under the rule of the Portuguese monarchs.

It was then that Magellan could have conceived a plan to further monopolize control over the region. In those years, all merchants from Europe and just adventurers traveled to Southeast Asia along a route that skirted Africa, passing around the Cape of Good Hope. Magellan believed that to reach the Molucx Islands, which at that time were the birthplace of spices, could be done in a different way, sailing not to the east, but to the west.

Regardless of when this plan arose, Fernand Magellan approached the Portuguese king with a proposal to equip a naval expedition. However, the monarch Manuel I rejected his proposal, considering the idea of ​​the navigator stupid and unworthy of the attention and funds of the treasury. Having received neither recognition nor material support in his homeland, offended by the harassment that has already become for many years, Magellan turns to the monarch of the neighboring country.

In 1518 Fernand Magellan moved to live in Spain, where he got married in Seville. And he quickly gains the favor of the then young Spanish king Carlos I (the future Charles V - the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire). The King of Spain agrees with Magellan's arguments that the spice-rich Moluccas can be reached by sailing westward, rather than bypassing Africa, as Portuguese sailors did.

The first round-the-world trip


King Carlos I of Spain agreed to pay for Magellan's expedition by providing five small vessels: Trinidad, Concepción, Santiago, San Antonio and Victoria. In total, about 300 sailors set sail from the Spanish port of Sanlucar. In addition to the Portuguese and Spaniards, there were approximately 10 other nationalities among them. A small squadron sailed from Spain on September 20, 1519, the flagship was the Trinidad.


A modern copy of the Magellanic Caracka "Victoria"

All ships that set off on the voyage were not particularly seaworthy and large in size. At the same time, Magellan did not have nautical charts, in fact, he sailed with people who trusted him into the unknown. Despite the fact that by that time he already possessed a sufficient set of maritime knowledge and skills and was good at determining latitude from the sun, there were no instruments for at least an approximate determination of longitude on the ships. Almost all the equipment of the expedition ships was reduced to a compass, an astrolabe and an hourglass.

After crossing the Atlantic, Magellan's ships reached La Plata in December 1519, sailing further down the coast of South America. The farther south the expedition ships sailed, the worse the weather became and the less food supplies remained. The search for the desired strait, instead of the planned several weeks, took several months.

In April 1520, a rebellion predictably broke out among the crew of ships, which consisted of sailors of various nationalities. Fernand Magellan, who at that time had rich combat experience, coped with the situation. But suppressing the insurgency had its consequences. Magellan had to carry out the execution of two conspirators, as well as leave some of the rioters on the shore in anticipation of imminent death by starvation. Such decisions undermined his authority in the eyes of the members of the expedition.

The state of affairs was also worsened by the loss of one and five ships, which crashed in bad weather. But, despite all the difficulties, the strait was still found. In October 1520, the ship carrying the flag of Fernand Magellan caught a strong current that carried him westward. Passing through the strait, which will be named after him, Magellan saw a new land, which today is known as the Tierra del Fuego archipelago.

Magellan gave this name to the new lands because of the numerous bonfires on the shore, which were burned by local residents. Most likely, they did it corny in order to keep warm, but from board the ship Magellan mistook the bonfires for volcanic eruptions.


Strait of Magellan, view from space

At the same time, the problems of the expedition were not exhausted even after reaching the strait. On one of the ships, a rebellion broke out again, his team decided to return to Spain. Thus, on November 28, 1520, only the three remaining ships of the expedition entered the ocean, which Magellan called Mare Pacificum (Pacific Ocean).

The death of Fernand Magellan


Hunger and scurvy became companions of the expedition, which entered the Pacific Ocean without even realizing its true size. For many weeks, people washed themselves exclusively with salty sea water, and there was simply nowhere to replenish supplies of food and fresh water. The teams were interrupted by moldy breadcrumbs, and catching a rat was a blessing.

On March 6, 1521, the expedition reached the Mariana Islands, and on March 17 landed on vacation on the small uninhabited island of Homnohon, part of the Philippine archipelago. Magellan and his companions became the first Europeans to reach the Philippines. Here, unlike the Mariana Islands, the team was able to establish warm contact with the natives. The inhabitants of the neighboring island brought fruits and coconuts to the expedition.

At the same time, the Spaniards noticed gold jewelry, which attracted their attention, and were able to establish a brisk trade and exchange. Magellan was willing to hand out various ivory trinkets and mirrors to the natives in exchange for jewelry. In March 1521, the expedition managed to map the islands of Leyte, Cebu and Bohol, previously unknown to the inhabitants of Europe. For Europeans, it is this event that becomes the discovery of the Philippines.

And then an event happened that cost Magellan his life. Trying to spread the power of the Spanish crown and Christianity, Fernand Magellan supported one ruler against another on the small island of Mactan, intervening in the course of internecine conflict. On the night of April 27, 1521, Magellan went to the island in a detachment of 60 people in boats.


Death of Fernand Magellan. Drawing of 1860

Due to the presence of coral reefs, the boats could not come close to the shore. As a result, crossbowmen and musketeers did not land on the island, remaining in boats. The rest of the landing party went to the island ford. Already on the approach to the shore, they were attacked by the natives. At the same time, firing from boats turned out to be ineffective due to the long range.

Under a hail of arrows, spears and stones, the detachment began to retreat. As the historian of the expedition Pigafett later recalled, most of the Spaniards from Magellan's detachment fled. With the expedition commander, no more than 6–8 people remained, who took up the battle with the outnumbered enemy forces. At the same time, the natives quickly established the leader of the strangers, focusing all their efforts on Magellan.

In an unequal battle, Magellan and the members of the expedition who remained with him were killed. Magellan died literally one step away from triumph and return to Spain. He practically managed to accomplish what he dreamed of for many years. Further voyage continued without the commander of the expedition. Of the five ships that left Spain in September 1519, three returned. They arrived home after completing their first trip around the world on September 6, 1522.

This swimming was of great importance for marine science. Returning sailors provided irrefutable evidence that our planet is a spinning ball, and all the seas on Earth are an indivisible body of water. Thanks to the first round-the-world sea expedition, the cartographic works of the ancient Romans and ancient Greeks were finally "buried" as untenable.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. April 29 2021 05: 35
    -4
    Behind Columbus and Magellan loomed the figures of thousands and thousands of greedy crooks, adventurers, slave owners, and just murderers.
    So I would not call them great ... if they brought the Indians good, knowledge, culture, the world, I would call them great people.
    And so, after their discoveries, a mass of bloodthirsty Spanish and Anglo-Saxon locusts poured into the lands of the indigenous people, destroying entire peoples.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 April 29 2021 06: 12
      +10
      So in those days, such a culture was, the Spanish Inquisition destroyed its Christians of Jewish origin, and the natives of America were not considered people then.
      1. Proxima
        Proxima April 29 2021 10: 30
        +3
        Surely almost every one of us in childhood read the book by Stefan Zweig "The Feat of Magellan". An exciting work, you read and understand that this is really a feat. True, the author of the article definitely did not read this book, otherwise he would not have written all sorts of nonsense about three ships out of the original five that arrived in Spain ...
        1. Serg koma
          Serg koma April 29 2021 18: 03
          0
          Quote: Proxima
          you understand that this is really a feat.

          "We sing glory to the madness of the brave.
          The madness of the brave is the wisdom of life! "
    2. bandabas
      bandabas April 29 2021 08: 05
      +3
      Well, just the Spaniards had a slightly different policy, at least to the local population - "You never know in Brazil ... Pedrov ?! And you can't count."

      And about the Naglo-Saxons, I completely agree with you. Classic- "Good Indian - Dead Indian".
  2. tlauicol
    tlauicol April 29 2021 05: 38
    +10
    Of the five ships that left Spain in September 1519, three returned. They arrived home after completing their first trip around the world on September 6, 1522.
    come on?
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 29 2021 06: 12
      +17
      One Victoria, under the command of Elcano, returned.
      18 sailors in penitential robes went to the Mother of God to give thanks for the miracle of salvation.
      But the spice load justified the expense of the entire trip.
      1. mr.ZinGer
        mr.ZinGer April 29 2021 08: 29
        +11
        "18 sailors in penitential clothes went to the Mother of God to give thanks for the miracle of salvation."

        The sailors went to repent for one lost day, which violated, more precisely, shifted church holidays, Sundays and fasting.

        For the first time in history, the expedition returned to its starting point, moving only to the west. The time was counted on the ships, and this is how it turned out that by the time of their return, the time differed between the sailors and on land. And so the day disappeared from the calendar, in spite of the careful reckoning of time. Thus, it was discovered that when moving westward after the Sun, the day (day), as it were, lengthens. If you move to the east, towards the Sun, the day, on the contrary, is shortened.

        When they returned, Magellan's satellites found that they had "lost" the whole day. For this "sin", which entailed wrong weekends and holidays, they got public church repentance.

        The date line passes in the Bering Strait between the Diomede Islands: Kruzenshtern Island in the USA (right) lives "yesterday", and Ratmanov Island in Russia (left) - "today"

        The beginning of the counting of the daily time was at noon, determined astronomically by the highest altitude of the Sun. With slow sailing, imperfection of measuring time with the help of an hourglass (hence the "flasks", that is, the ship's bell is noted to turn over every half hour of the hourglass), this imperceptible "movement" of the midday accumulates and when making a full journey around the Earth is exactly a day.
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 April 29 2021 08: 44
          +7
          So then it is.
          But we can only guess what they had in their heads.

          And where are the limits of testing by hunger and other things. And what kind of people become after that.
        2. Blacksmith 55
          Blacksmith 55 April 29 2021 09: 14
          +6
          ZinGer, you described it perfectly.
          Unfortunately, today the majority of young people do not know about such things.
          And the article is big +, it is interesting to read what I actually knew for a long time, but I have not read it for a long time.
          And there is a mistake in the article about the returned ships.
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 April 29 2021 09: 22
            +5
            The Portuguese captured Trinidad. And "San Antonio" returned to Seville long before the completion of the round-the-world trip.
          2. mr.ZinGer
            mr.ZinGer April 29 2021 11: 54
            +4
            As a child, my father read to me a book by Svyatoslav Sakharnov "How I saved Magelan", and a very bright and strong impression remained.
            Sorry flooded, I decided to share.
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 29 2021 19: 52
              +3
              What we like about our forum - the framework is quite free. You can share the mood of the moment. And reproaches rarely follow.
      2. bandabas
        bandabas April 29 2021 08: 51
        +1
        Yes Yes. And how much is cinnamon now smile ?
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 April 29 2021 09: 07
          +2
          Not so much. Saffron, vanilla and cardamom are significantly inferior.
          True, even now we meet more often with Cassia.

          Plantations and logistics are changing the face of the Earth well.
          1. bandabas
            bandabas April 29 2021 09: 34
            +2
            Yes I know. Now the showdown is going on for oil. What will happen tomorrow?
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 29 2021 14: 05
              +3
              Water fight and hydrogen fuel games.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave April 29 2021 19: 13
                +2
                The struggle for water
                Exactly!
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 April 29 2021 19: 16
                  +1
                  Sometimes it would be interesting to be a chronicler.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave April 29 2021 19: 34
                    0
                    But not a witness.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish April 29 2021 06: 14
      +14
      Ага. smile
      "September 6, 1522" Victoria "under the command of Juan Sebastian Elcano reached Spain, thus becoming the only ship of Magellan's flotilla, victoriously returning to Seville. There were eighteen survivors on the ship. Later, in 1525, four more of 55 crew members the ship "Trinidad" were delivered to Spain. Also, those members of the "Victoria" crew who were captured by the Portuguese during their forced stay on the Cape Verde Islands were ransomed from Portuguese captivity. " (from)

  3. Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 06: 07
    +9
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Behind Columbus and Magellan loomed the figures of thousands and thousands of greedy crooks, adventurers, slave owners, and just murderers.
    So I would not call them great ... if they brought the Indians good, knowledge, culture, the world, I would call them great people.
    And so, after their discoveries, a mass of bloodthirsty Spanish and Anglo-Saxon locusts poured into the lands of the indigenous people, destroying entire peoples.


    Why bring good to the Indians?
    Criminals can also be great, for great crimes also require a certain breadth of mind. We remember the names of such great people from history textbooks. And nonentities do not get into textbooks. They do not erect monuments to them. Plants, factories, squares and streets are not named after them. The main thing is that a criminal and a murderer should bring good, glory and wealth to his gang, his tribe and his people. Then he will become great.

    Well, let them destroy entire nations. The fault of those peoples is that they were weaker. The chicken's fault in front of me is that I want to eat.

    Another example.
    When the Isthmus of Panama appeared, felines from North America poured into South America and destroyed the megafauna there. The question to you: "Are the felines guilty of the death of megateria, giant armadillos, fororakos and other ancient inhabitants of South America?"
    I am responsible for you. Not. Felines are not guilty. It's just that the felines turned out to be more evolutionarily prepared. And their victims are less prepared. From this, the conclusion - "Always get ready; be always ready!

    An example is already about people.
    Imagine that you decide to look for a good life in other lands, because you are already sick of competition with enemies in your homeland. Here you have found a rich land, but it turns out to be inhabited by savages (for example, Australian aborigines). And then you, full of humanism, leave this rich land. Or maybe even first you give these aborigines from humanism your property and teach them wisdom, and then again you will leave. But this is idiocy! This is not how living organisms develop on Earth.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. April 29 2021 06: 40
      -1
      Respect to you hi, how migrants in our time poured into Europe for an easy and beautiful life clearly shows you are right. Arabs, blacks and other aliens slaughter and rape the indigenous people of France and Germany, publicly showing everyone who is the boss on this earth.
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter April 29 2021 11: 13
        +8
        how migrants in our time poured into Europe for an easy and beautiful life clearly shows you are right
        They didn’t rush, in fact, they were let in and continue to let in short-sighted politicians who believe (still, by the way) that they and their children will integrate into European society and will become a solution to the demographic problems of Europe.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave April 29 2021 18: 49
          +4
          will be the solution to the demographic problems of Europe.
          Of course they will!
          "It is not nuclear charges that will blow up the world, it will blow up the womb of an Arab woman." (Y. Arafat)
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter April 29 2021 18: 53
            +5
            In fairness, it should be noted that the uterus of Arab women born in Europe (2-3 generation) is no longer so explosive wassat - like Europeans, they no longer run to give birth.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave April 29 2021 18: 58
              +3
              Second or third generation, are they Turks in Germany and Algerians in France? I don't know who is in Britain ...
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter April 29 2021 19: 00
                +3
                I don't know who is in Britain ...
                I don't know who is NOT in Britain. But the fact is that there is no machine-gun birth rate among them.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave April 29 2021 19: 08
                  +2
                  I don't know either, I thought, tell me ...
                  I just know about the migration surge in the 70s and 80s of the last century, in Germany and France, but nothing about Britain ...
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter April 29 2021 19: 21
                    +4
                    Pakistanis and Indians (and Bangladeshis) have started in Britain since the 50s. At first they worked in light industry enterprises, and then - when they nevertheless covered themselves, unable to withstand competition with India and Bangladesh proper, they spread everywhere. Since the post-war times, Negroes from the Caribbean, they without visas (even under the empire) came to work in ports. By the way, TfL (London transport) worked a lot then. Since the days of the European Union - everyone and everybody has gone - the social support here, even in comparison with the German and French systems, is generous. And having legalized in Italy or Spain, Afro-Asiatic-Europeans came here as Italians and French. By the way, Brexit was staged precisely because of their fault - the flow of "Europeans" turned into a river with the Yenisei and the social security budget has already exceeded the defense budget. The topic is immense. British education stands apart lol - many universities simply served as expensive but reliable channels of immigration. Now the nuts have been tightened, but the azizomultiplier is working (as the Swedes say) - each legalized person pulls several more. Something like this.
                    The articles on VO are deserved by the Chinese, who during the Battle of Britain launched a strike in the ports - they were exiled to the Caribbean for this.
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave April 29 2021 19: 41
                      +3
                      The articles on VO are deserved by the Chinese, who during the Battle of Britain launched a strike in the ports - they were exiled to the Caribbean for this.
                      So write!
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter April 29 2021 19: 44
                        +3
                        I read somewhere in an article about the Caribbean - now you can't find ANYTHING! Like a sober read ... But how to use photos from third-party resources in articles?
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave April 29 2021 19: 49
                        +2
                        Yes, good! Simply, specify the address of the resource, the "pulled" image, and - that's it!
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter April 29 2021 20: 02
                        +4
                        https://www.heritagefund.org.uk/news/history-lost-chinese-sailors-uncovered Большинство (более 1300 кетаев) выловили в Ливерпуле полицейские и депортнули прямо в Китай в 1946 году- а до этого китайские моряки в том числе участвовали в проводке конвоев из США. Информацию рассекретили лишь недавно
                        Yes, there is digging and digging.
                      4. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave April 29 2021 20: 12
                        +2
                        Well, go for it! good
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 April 29 2021 08: 46
    0
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    The fault of those peoples is that they were weaker.

    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    The fault of those peoples is that they were weaker.

    You must be a fan of Friedrich Nietzsche! wink
  • bandabas
    bandabas April 29 2021 08: 54
    0
    He is also a criminal in Africa.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 29 2021 06: 10
    +6
    Probably a favorite trip. With all the hardships and discoveries.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish April 29 2021 06: 43
      +8
      Drake passed the second and not much later, did not lose a single ship, but looted so much that the silver ingots had to be thrown overboard due to overloading. Someone foolishly suggested throwing away the guns, so Drake shot him right away for such a "wise" idea. He saved the artillery and returned home, and most importantly, he made a good map of the coastal waters of the east and west of South America, the Spaniards simply hid information about these waters. It didn't help, really.
      Yes, and Drake Passage appeared next to the Maellan Strait.
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 April 29 2021 07: 03
        +4
        Complement each other well. As in the subsequent expedition of Cook, Dampier, Bougainville.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish April 29 2021 07: 12
          +6
          Well, Dampir is a separate story, in my opinion we have already discussed his figure once, I then remembered the "Dover tincture" - Thomas Dover, the pirate captain and doctor. smile
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 April 29 2021 07: 28
            +6
            Yes. It was.
            I don’t know where.
            And as the sailboats sunk, they still do not let go.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish April 29 2021 08: 14
              +9
              Me too, I wanted to enter a sailor, but I didn’t get to the navigator because of my eyesight. And when the time came to go to the army, my vision suddenly became one hundred percent, I did not argue and it somehow didn’t stop me from decently shooting everything that fell into my hands.
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku April 29 2021 09: 56
                +7
                I didn’t argue and that somehow didn’t stop me from shooting decently from everything that fell into my hands.

                In short, instead of a ship you were given a tank ... drinks That's why I catch myself thinking, a pirate from you would turn out wonderful - John Silver would cry in an embrace with a parrot with envy. good
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish April 29 2021 10: 06
                  +6
                  It's a pity for a parrot, but with Silver we would have seen who drinks whom. laughing
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku April 29 2021 10: 30
                    +8
                    It's a pity for a parrot, but with Silver we would have seen who drinks whom.

                    And if your mechanic did not agree with you, you looked at him suspiciously, and said, as if by chance .. "You always wanted to be the captain, George Merry ...." lol And immediately there was a consensus! For Flint himself was afraid of you! drinks
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish April 29 2021 10: 53
                      +5
                      And if your mechanic did not agree with you ...

                      My mechanic always agrees with me!
                  2. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave April 29 2021 19: 30
                    +4
                    It's a pity for the parrot
                    "It's a pity for the bird!" (FROM)
                    It is you, Uncle Kostya, who are not familiar with the New Zealand kea parrots.
                2. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 April 29 2021 14: 07
                  +3
                  It is not easy for a pirate on a tank to disguise himself.
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku April 29 2021 14: 09
                    +4
                    It is not easy for a pirate on a tank to disguise himself.

                    The tricorne hat will not fit into the tower hatch - you have to ride with your head stuck out. wink
                    1. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 April 29 2021 14: 10
                      +4
                      Armata modified.
                      1. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku April 29 2021 14: 13
                        +3
                        Armata modified.

                        Yeah, and a crew of three - a Sea Cat, a parrot and a 19-year-old pretty female cabin boy. A parrot, in principle, can be set up so that the microclimate does not spoil with its screams ... what In a separate lockable armored capsule - so that his wife does not pull out by the scruff of the neck! laughing Uncle Kostya, do not be offended - I am joking, loving! drinks
                      2. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 29 2021 14: 30
                        +2
                        Parrot Kesha exhibited himself. Then he came back.
                        And the picture of the crew is surreal.
                        At least shoot the series.
                        It remains to plan the route.
                      3. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku April 29 2021 14: 38
                        +3
                        At least shoot the series.

                        Yes, just change the performer of the role of yoongi from episode to episode. wink and Uncle Kostya will become a world-class star ... good well, and to us for the idea - also obliged to share, however! drinks
                    2. Catfish
                      Catfish April 29 2021 14: 45
                      +5
                      Just joke, young man, I will order to hang it on the yard. angry
                      In addition, the experience in family relationships for all of us is very, very different - some for the scruff of the neck, and some a glass for dinner. drinks laughing
                      By the way, if a person at the age of 19 continues to be a cabin boy, then even then she remains on the shore, by this age it is time for a lady to grow wiser and gain experience. yes
                    3. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku April 29 2021 14: 50
                      +3
                      Just joke, young man, I will order to hang it on the yard.

                      On the gun barrel! fellow Don't throw me into the thorn bush! lol
                      some for the scruff of the neck, and some for a glass for dinner

                      However, respect to your wife! love good
                      By the way, if a person at the age of 19 continues to be a cabin boy, then even then she remains on the shore, by this age it is time for a lady to grow wiser and gain experience

                      Corsair 4 - Sergei, we are changing the script, the cabin boy is being promoted to boatswain. The slogan of the film will sound: "It's good to have an experienced boatswain." drinks On a long, long hike without such a companion - as without arms!soldier
                    4. Catfish
                      Catfish April 29 2021 15: 03
                      +3
                      ... in ... a hike without such a companion - as without hands


                      Is that in what sense? laughing laughing laughing

                    5. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku April 29 2021 15: 07
                      +4
                      Is that in what sense?

                      Turn the steering wheel while you command! drinks
                  2. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 April 29 2021 18: 13
                    +3
                    Something was similar:
                    The Saga of the Living Ships.

                    Scattered Books came across, but the language is alive.
                  3. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku April 30 2021 15: 13
                    +3
                    Something was similar:
                    The Saga of the Living Ships.

                    And we will write the saga "Sea Cat and all-all-all"! drinks
                  4. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 April 30 2021 19: 26
                    +2
                    Who is Christopher Robin?
                  5. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 1 May 2021 15: 25
                    +2
                    Who is Christopher Robin?

                    Christina Aguilera. bully
                  6. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 1 May 2021 15: 39
                    +2
                    Who is this person?
                  7. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 7 May 2021 09: 21
                    +1
                    Who is this person?

                    American singer by mouth. In her best years she looked like this (photo below), now she is hopelessly fat. In general, fifteen years ago - the most suitable "Christopher Robin" for the Sea Cat ... lol
                  8. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 7 May 2021 11: 31
                    +1
                    The chain mail is too small.
                  9. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 11 May 2021 09: 56
                    +1
                    The chain mail is too small.

                    The Sea Cat will cover it with a tank.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 29 2021 18: 53
    +4
    "... and a tea clipper under full sails" (C)
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 29 2021 19: 15
      +4
      I'm less familiar with horses than I would like.

      "Peace to a home where dogs and horses are loved" (c).
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 29 2021 19: 33
        +3
        I'm afraid of horses. Apparently, this is the next stage of my knowledge of the world.
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 April 29 2021 19: 51
          +3
          The first thought is the Oryol trotters.
          One of those areas that I love is Voronezh.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave April 29 2021 20: 03
            +4
            Oh my God! They also vary by region! Give it to me, a native of not south of Pskov, there is a faint hope that I will agree ...
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 29 2021 21: 04
              +4
              Is the Pskov region a new Hadrian's shaft?
            2. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave April 29 2021 21: 18
              +4
              Uh-huh. With a reverse pole vector. To be honest, I haven't hand-fed a single creature larger than a reindeer. That's why I'm afraid.
            3. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 29 2021 21: 29
              +4
              But somewhere bison live.
            4. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave April 30 2021 03: 16
              +3
              I even know where, in the "bison", in Toksovo.
            5. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 30 2021 03: 30
              +3
              And there are many more where: Belovezhskaya Pushcha, Berezichsky Nature Reserve, Prioksko-Terrasny Nature Reserve, Kaluga Zaseki and various other places.
            6. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave April 30 2021 03: 39
              +3
              Well, we marked the demarcation line with the southern border of the Pskov region ...
            7. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 30 2021 03: 40
              +3
              You can wait here for them to multiply and go north.
              However, before the Middle Ages without bison and rounds is not particularly imaginable.
            8. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave April 30 2021 03: 52
              +3
              Why the early Middle Ages? If I remember correctly, the last tour was killed in the 19th century.
            9. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 30 2021 03: 58
              +3
              It is believed that tours did not exist earlier.

              But the last bison living at large was killed a hundred years ago by a man named Shpakovsky (or Shpakovich).
              It has now been fairly restored. Yes, and the blood of the buffalo was connected.

              It is believed that the bison also influenced the nature of the forests.
              And even now they eat thoroughly.
              Try to feed such a colossus, although it was crushed in comparison with the old times.
            10. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave April 30 2021 04: 04
              +3
              Hmm ... And what is their food supply?
            11. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 30 2021 04: 08
              +3
              In summer, mostly grass. In winter - bark and shoots.
              It is believed that when there were many of them, to contribute to the creation of large glades.
            12. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave April 30 2021 04: 15
              +3
              That is, competitors of moose in the food chain?
            13. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 30 2021 04: 29
              +3
              Yes. It already depends on the population density. In any case, they find an opportunity to feed the bison.
      2. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku April 30 2021 10: 12
        +3
        But the last bison living at large was killed a hundred years ago by a man named Shpakovsky (or Shpakovich).

        Sergei, was he with a mustache? Then my guess about the time machine is confirmed! wink
      3. Korsar4
        Korsar4 April 30 2021 19: 23
        +2
        Photos, mostly bison, come across.
      4. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 1 May 2021 15: 25
        +2
        Photos, mostly bison, come across.

        The cunning Shpakovsky managed not to light up ... Or he destroyed the witnesses ... wink drinks
      5. Korsar4
        Korsar4 1 May 2021 15: 38
        +2
        Not all archives are open yet.
      6. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 7 May 2021 09: 19
        +1
        Not all archives are open yet.

        I quietly compare facts and photos ... He managed to appear in many places! wink
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku April 30 2021 10: 13
    +4
    Is the Pskov region a new Hadrian's shaft?

    No, Adrian wanted to build there too, but Antinous with his shiny ass distracted him from work. By the way, he drowned not in the Nile, but in the Great - right opposite the Kremlin. laughing
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 30 2021 19: 24
    +2
    Not completed, is it out?
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 1 May 2021 15: 24
    +2
    Not completed, is it out?

    Yes, the emperor fell into drunkenness and debauchery, and his strength was exhausted. Mikhail says that according to one of the legends, Rurik is buried in Shum-mountain, which is between Luga and Novgorod; I declare authoritatively - not Rurik is buried there, but Antinous! stop It remains to call Vashchenko to unearth everything there! drinks
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 1 May 2021 15: 37
    +2
    The main thing is not to forget to serve mead to the diggers.
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 7 May 2021 09: 18
    +1
    The main thing is not to forget to serve mead to the diggers.

    On the second of May I saw this tomb of Antinea. drinks Indeed, the large mound is larger than in Staraya Ladoga. fellow I learned about this hill from Mikhail three years ago. yes Then there was the most tsimes - after Shum Mountain, 20 kilometers of a dirt road began in the direction of the Bear ... laughing
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku April 30 2021 10: 15
    +4
    "... and a tea clipper under full sails" (C)

    "There is a clipper, a skipper is on the clipper ...." (Sober lieutenant Rzhevsky). "There is a barge, there are dofig people there .." (he is, drunk). laughing drinks
    1. Catfish
      Catfish April 30 2021 10: 58
      +3
      "There is a clipper, skipper on deck,
      The skipper has gonorrhea ... "
      (From the cartoon for primary school age)
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku April 30 2021 11: 30
        +2
        (From the cartoon for primary school age)

        I could not finish ... repeat And you - could! drinks
        1. Catfish
          Catfish April 30 2021 11: 41
          +4
          Major Payne is the engine that could. laughing
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku April 30 2021 12: 10
            +4
            Major Payne is the engine that could.

            “If you don’t obey, I’ll tell you the tale of the little engine. Chug-chug! .. bully
            Cool film! drinks
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol April 29 2021 06: 18
    +6
    the most interesting thing is that it is only one step from Malacca to the Spice Islands. But brave heroes always detour
    1. Catfish
      Catfish April 29 2021 06: 25
      +6
      Know where you will fall ... I mean in advance. request
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol April 29 2021 06: 32
        +6
        Magellan probably understood that it was a stone's throw from Malacca to the Islands, but the Portuguese did not go further to the southeast. Foolish of course
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich April 29 2021 06: 30
    0
    In addition to the Portuguese and Spaniards, there were approximately 10 other nationalities among them.
    and I guess what exactly were the compatriots of Colombo, who is from Kolomyia yes

    considering how many battles Magellan fought, he lived for a long time ...
  • Torins
    Torins April 29 2021 07: 32
    +6
    Thanks to the first round-the-world sea expedition, cartographic works of the ancient Romans and ancient Greeks were finally "buried" as untenable.
    And even today there are people who believe that the earth is flat and there are actually no flights into space))
    1. Decimalegio
      Decimalegio April 29 2021 13: 01
      +2
      You are definitely right. Indeed, if you try to say the opposite, these people will treat you as ignorance who does not understand anything of the secrets of life.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 09: 07
    -5
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Respect to you hi, how migrants in our time poured into Europe for an easy and beautiful life clearly shows you are right. Arabs, blacks and other aliens slaughter and rape the indigenous people of France and Germany, publicly showing everyone who is the boss on this earth.


    I am happy for today's Europeans. Let them die, but quickly. And we will eliminate the migrants and take over Europe ourselves.
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master April 29 2021 10: 32
      +6
      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      And we will eliminate the migrants and take over Europe ourselves.

      You've probably thought of everything already.
      Personally, will you liquidate yourself - women, babies, old people - or will you send your children? What method of liquidation do you prefer? In the Third Reich, they loved to poison with gas, and what do you like best?
      Yes, and what about the descendants of mixed marriages? Although, what do I actually think? Eliminate - so everyone, right?
      1. Catfish
        Catfish April 29 2021 12: 00
        +6
        Mikhail hello smile , your namesake Mikhail Nozhkin had couplets just on this topic.
        "................................................. ...
        All sat and sighed deeply,
        He kept walking and waving his ears.
        It turned out - for cancer, for cancer. "(C) yes
      2. Roman_vh
        Roman_vh April 29 2021 12: 29
        +2
        If you just stop feeding them (as Ivrapes do), then they will quickly return to the warm regions where the date itself falls from the palm tree and they will not have to run with a bone harpoon across the ice for some kind of seal or walrus.
        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master April 29 2021 13: 38
          +6
          Quote: Roman_VH
          If you just stop feeding them

          they, to begin with, will get into gangs and start robbing - at best. At worst, the whole crowd will take to the streets and start pogroms, killing everyone in a row. Then, when they are scattered with the help of the army (who serves in it, by the way?), They will disperse again and begin to plunder. All the same - they will not go "home" - many have no other home, and no one is waiting for them there.
          In short, the forceful method will only lead to numerous casualties, both among the indigenous and newcomer population, and then politicians, according to old memory, will start bargaining and everything will eventually remain as it is.
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter April 29 2021 16: 34
            +3
            to begin with, they will get into gangs and start robbing - at best.
            And some of them were leaving Finland when it turned out that they would not be given either houses or cars upon arrival (at most, within a week). We even gave an interview - we are leaving you because of your inhospitableness.
            the whole crowd into the streets and pogroms will begin
            In Corsica, when the locals rebelled - in 2015 in December (the runners (a group of 50-60 snouts attacked a crew of 4 firefighters) called the fire brigade and attacked firefighters for fun) - they locked themselves in apartments on the upper floors and filled up the Paris authorities with emails and calls with requests to save them from evil whites. They are loud and aggressive, but still a minority. If there is no protection of their inalienable rights by state institutions, they are not at all so brave and invulnerable.
            army (who serves in it, by the way
            Almost exclusively indigenous.
            1. Trilobite Master
              Trilobite Master April 29 2021 17: 19
              +3
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              And some left Finland

              These are the ones who were just about to settle. Those who have already settled will start to rage, but will not leave.
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              If there is no protection of their inalienable rights by state institutions, they are not at all so brave and invulnerable.

              This is the case with everyone.
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              Almost exclusively indigenous.

              Well, if so.
              How many generations do you need to live in Europe to be considered its indigenous population? You can find many photos of blacks in military uniforms of European states.
              1. Roman_vh
                Roman_vh April 29 2021 17: 27
                0
                So we are talking about the time when the ivrapeis feeding them are no longer kakbe (well, purely hypothetically) and there is no one to attack and rob, only themselves.
              2. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter April 29 2021 17: 27
                +2
                You can find many photos of blacks in military uniforms of European states.
                In the Russian form, too, you can find quite a few. In fact, there are three percent of them (according to the stories of those who served, and not official statistics) - it's not cool for them to rub corns in the army wassat .
                who have already settled will start to rage, but will not leave
                Some will leave and some will sit quietly. By the way, almost all of them left Corsica.
                How many generations do you need to live in Europe to be considered its indigenous population?
                Local multiculturalists consider those already born here "indigenous" So this is a question under discussion.
                In any case, the distribution of nishtyaks, which they consider as a tribute, is not a way out of the situevina and sooner or later the abscess will burst.
            2. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA April 29 2021 19: 51
              +3
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              In Corsica, when the locals rebelled - in 2015 in December (the runners (a group of 50-60 snouts attacked a crew of 4 firefighters) called the fire brigade and attacked firefighters for fun) - they locked themselves in apartments on the upper floors and filled up the Paris authorities with emails and calls with requests to save them from evil whites.

              So this is Corsica. It is approximately as if our migrants came to Ramzan's estate and began to run into locals there. laughing
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter April 29 2021 19: 54
                +4
                So this is Corsica.
                The only difference with other cities in France is that the Corsican police did not actively oppose this. all their resources were not enough yes .
    2. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter April 29 2021 11: 03
      +7
      We will eliminate migrants and take over Europe ourselves.
      This is what I understand a cunning plan yes And what will you do with your internal Russian migrants?
      1. Catfish
        Catfish April 29 2021 11: 54
        +7
        And he is like Scarlet - he will think about it tomorrow. Or the day after tomorrow. And in general, it is harmful to think a lot, it is better to do what they say. laughing
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter April 29 2021 11: 59
          +6
          In the year 2000, I sort of read that in 2020, people of color will make up more than half of the population of Great Britain - authoritative experts wrote yes And now the year 2021, London, did not come true. Forecasts are the case. And in general, as one acquaintance told me, if all non-British people are removed from the meat-packing plant where he works (near Newcastle), ten people will remain in the office.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish April 29 2021 12: 02
            +5
            ... there will be ten people left in the office.


            Of course, you can't force our brother to sweep the streets. request
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter April 29 2021 12: 08
              +5
              You can't make our brother sweep the streets
              Well, yes, even so there are very few people who want to do it.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish April 29 2021 12: 30
                +9
                In our village, five Tajiks worked on the greenhouse farm, normal guys, for very little money they dug vegetable gardens and so on for private owners. As the virus went, they were all sent home, well, okay with our gardens, our drunks have not all died yet - they are digging, and the owners have problems in the greenhouses, drunks will ruin everything, and normal people for the money that they paid Tajiks, they don't go there to work. I don’t know how they’ll get out there, I don’t care about their business, we eat our tomatoes and cucumbers. laughing
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter April 29 2021 12: 48
                  +7
                  It should be noted here that, having settled down, Tajiks will not work on tomatoes either; they will find something better for themselves and will join the slender ranks of the community. And then the family / children will appear.
                  how will they get out there
                  Is it okay to pay your friends? Or is there not enough for a new Mercedes then? In England the situation is a little different - immigrants are not paid less - it is illegal - and there are not enough indigenous workers.
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku April 29 2021 14: 44
                    +6
                    Is it okay to pay your friends? Or is there not enough for a new Mercedes then?

                    Completely right. Unfortunately, the biggest fortunes are made in half with savings on employees ...
            2. Phil77
              Phil77 April 29 2021 14: 35
              +7
              Hello friends! Our brother needs to be paid normal money! For work! But this is not in this life. In the meantime, here it is the face of Sabyanin's Moscow.
              * How? And these too? Muscovites? *
    3. Decimalegio
      Decimalegio April 29 2021 12: 56
      +3
      Here is another new conqueror who dreams of visiting Europe with a rifle on his shoulder. If you want, I can arrange a fundraiser with the church so you can visit it easily. Forget your dreams of conquest, ditch your PC keyboard. Grab a hoe, pickaxe, pen, or any other useful tool and consider working for your country. Consider starting a family, educating your children. Finally, pray for a peaceful death in your bed, surrounded by your dearest affections.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 09: 12
    -3
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    The fault of those peoples is that they were weaker.

    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    The fault of those peoples is that they were weaker.

    You must be a fan of Friedrich Nietzsche! wink


    All I know about Nietzsche is that he once existed and that he jerked off a lot. Personally, I am a collector of living women, so I do not consider myself a fan of Nietzsche.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr April 29 2021 10: 44
      +7
      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      Personally, I am a collector of living women

      Incredibly interesting! And do you have a lot of them?
    2. Richard
      Richard April 29 2021 14: 10
      +4
      he jerked off a lot. Personally, I am a collector of living women

      one does not interfere with the other smile
    3. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 29 2021 17: 03
      +5
      * collector of living women ", and where do you keep them?
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 10: 42
    -4
    Quote: Trilobite Master
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    And we will eliminate the migrants and take over Europe ourselves.

    You've probably thought of everything already.
    Personally, will you liquidate yourself - women, babies, old people - or will you send your children? What method of liquidation do you prefer? In the Third Reich, they loved to poison with gas, and what do you like best?
    Yes, and what about the descendants of mixed marriages? Although, what do I actually think? Eliminate - so everyone, right?


    Don't try to attribute Nazi-style bloodthirstiness to me. I am 50 years old.
    As a senior student in 1992, I went to Transnistria to save people from the pro-Romanian Nazis. Answering your possible question in advance, I will say that I did not kill or injure anyone there. Although he could.

    I propose to remove migrants by loading them onto trains and ships and sending them home. But you should also leave those migrants who, by education and by their mood, will be useful (with their consent). I'm talking about a small proportion of scientists (and there are some among them), highly qualified engineers, class doctors, etc. There will be 2-3% of them.
    I believe that you, a sofa dreamer, have never done anything for your country in your entire life and are not going to do anything.
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master April 29 2021 11: 51
      +7
      Sorry, but the word "liquidate" means something different than "I suggest to remove".
      But even if it is "removed", it also does not turn out sickly - forced deportation, which means concentration camps, ghettos and other delights. Moreover, selection based on the principle of "utility" ...
      In general, Adolf Aloizych applauds you, but at the same time shakes his head slightly - they say the thoughts are correct, but the execution is half-hearted. Someone should be and that. But you yourself will come to this, I have no doubt. Repressions against millions of people, of course, will not do without blood, and then, you look, you will enter the taste, you will understand that this slobbering humanism is not needed by anyone, that these migrants in their historical homeland are not needed by anyone, so why should they go somewhere carry ...
      In general, you are going the right way, genosse. yes
      If by the age of fifty you have such thoughts as you are pleased to express here, then you better live forever, because in the next world your grandfather will meet you at best with a spit in the face and a kick in the ass.
      As for your biography, it is deeply violet to me and I was not going to ask you any questions.
      As for mine, you don't know it, so don't shake the air in vain.
      Whoever has done more for their country also makes no sense to discuss. In any case, I am not going to report to you about my affairs.
    2. Deniska999
      Deniska999 April 29 2021 13: 20
      +4
      Already:

      Euronews is now reporting that a special agency is being created in Europe — in fact, a special service — whose main responsibility will be to expel illegal migrants, especially those who have arrived under the guise of “refugees”.
      The report says that about 500 thousand orders have already been issued for the expulsion of illegal immigrants to their home countries. 142 thousand people have already been deported.
      This special service will also stop refugees on the distant approaches to Europe - we are talking here about those who sail to the continent on boats from Africa.
      In general, the EU is gradually closing itself off from the influx of people from the New Dark Ages. Well, or at least starts filtering this stream.
    3. Catfish
      Catfish April 29 2021 14: 59
      +9
      I 50 years.


      Come on, lie, you talk like a fifteen-year-old kid, and even boast about "women", and your friends are balabolians, respectively, you are from a parallel class. Here Mikhail is still trying to talk to you like an adult, but I would call your father, but I would quote him all the nonsense that you are talking about here, and would gladly listen to your screams in the telephone receiver when daddy will tear you with the reins on your bum ... laughing
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 12: 56
    -8
    Quote: kalibr
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    Personally, I am a collector of living women

    Incredibly interesting! And do you have a lot of them?

    Not much compared to some of my comrades. About 70. While some of my comrades counted up to 500, up to 700, and two called the number 1200. But on the other hand, almost all of me were beautiful. While one of my friends boasted that he could any, even the most terrible crocodile.

    Somehow 7 years ago I took a notebook and tried to restore them all in my memory. Most were remembered well, since I had more or less intense romances with them. He recalled some with difficulty, since accidental fucking under murky circumstances or on a group tour was not always romantic.
    1. Richard
      Richard April 29 2021 14: 28
      +8
      Not much compared to some of my comrades. About 70 ... Somehow 7 years ago I took a notebook and tried to restore them all in my memory.

      Not much No.
      You, as Magellan, urgently need to buy glass beads, cheap mirrors and make a trip around the world, sex around the world to be more precise. And be sure to keep a diary with strict account. And after the triumphant return, share your impressions with VO readers in the "Opinions" section yes
      1. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 April 29 2021 16: 53
        +2
        Dmitry "Richard", thanks for the fun
      2. kalibr
        kalibr April 29 2021 19: 56
        +5
        He needs to go to Cuba! You can settle there for a cheap price and ... I don’t want to eat, whites, mulatto women, black women, quarter girls ...
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    2. Decimalegio
      Decimalegio April 29 2021 15: 53
      +5
      When I talk to every hunter, he always killed the biggest boar. In Italy, they say that when someone talks about women, money and holiness, you should always get half of the half. Hope the translator translates well
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 30 2021 12: 23
      +1
      Not much compared to some of my comrades. About 70. While some of my comrades counted up to 500, up to 700, and two called the number 1200.

      A man, if he is a Man, is not like that .... Comilfo to brag about such in public (on the Internet on the forum). Don’t you? Somehow it jars from your lines.
  • Decimalegio
    Decimalegio April 29 2021 13: 18
    +9
    The thought of judging history based on the moral or ethical values ​​of the present time is one of the stupidest things you can do.
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 April 29 2021 16: 41
    +2
    Colleagues, hello. "About 300 people" went sailing, and only about 100 people returned.
    Almost everyone who went sailing had relatives on the shore.
    Colleagues, we all know perfectly well how difficult it is for pensioners or single mothers, but what was it like then?
    Apparently: "Married profitably" Magellan's widow was a wealthy woman, and if it is the wife of a simple sailor or an old woman - mother? How do they feel? As presented so the heart contracts
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 April 29 2021 16: 50
    +1
    Quote: Roman_VH
    If you just stop feeding them (as Ivrapes do), then they will quickly return to the warm regions where the date itself falls from the palm tree and they will not have to run with a bone harpoon across the ice for some kind of seal or walrus.

    But did not everyone live under the date palm? How to be
    1. Roman_vh
      Roman_vh April 29 2021 17: 40
      0
      Well, as Comrade. Brezhnev in a well-known anecdote - No one promised to feed on the way.
      What can I offer them? I don't have a palm tree either. There is a pear, an apple, but no palm.
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 April 29 2021 18: 16
        +1
        I know the places where there are palm trees.

        But for us, apple trees are better.
      2. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 April 29 2021 19: 44
        +2
        I have nothing but flowers. I doubt they would want to eat flowers
    2. vladcub
      vladcub April 29 2021 18: 09
      +3
      Urgently look for such a palm tree
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 17: 24
    -3
    Quote: Sea Cat
    I 50 years.


    Come on, lie, you talk like a fifteen-year-old kid, and even boast about "women", and your friends are balabolians, respectively, you are from a parallel class. Here Mikhail is still trying to talk to you like an adult, but I would call your father, but I would quote him all the nonsense that you are talking about here, and would gladly listen to your screams in the telephone receiver when daddy will tear you with the reins on your bum ... laughing


    Are you trying to speculate about me?
    Alas, my father died in 2015, and my mother died last year in 2020.

    I am pleased that I am giving the impression of being younger than I am. But in the company of men from 45 to 70 years old under the strong, we always have something to remember, and maybe brag about. Yes, and of course to cool down.

    For example, my now-deceased friend Mikhail (died in the mountains of Rwanda in 2012), talked a lot about his foreign marriages and his participation in the near-political games of the 90s. But by the way, he was a doctor of sciences, the author of over 1000 scientific papers. Another late comrade Roma (died in Uganda from covid last year) not only collected women, but also posted his sexual exploits on the Internet on the Udav resource. And the writer was also great. He wrote under the nickname Mzungu. And although he was 60 at the time of his death, everyone perceived him as a teenager. Now I could go on and on. But a little sad.

    However, being a balabol until old age is not so bad.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter April 29 2021 17: 36
      +6
      However, being a balabol until old age is not so bad.
      You're good at yes
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 17: 28
    -1
    Quote: Richard
    Not much compared to some of my comrades. About 70 ... Somehow 7 years ago I took a notebook and tried to restore them all in my memory.

    Not much No.
    You, as Magellan, urgently need to buy glass beads, cheap mirrors and make a trip around the world, sex around the world to be more precise. And be sure to keep a diary with strict account. And after the triumphant return, share your impressions with VO readers in the "Opinions" section yes


    Not a bad idea. Many of my comrades do just that - they put a point on the world map only if they have fucked a local one at this point. However, this kind of sex is only for money. It's not about me. I am only for ordinary girls and with a classic bedding scheme. Now only the energy has become less.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub April 29 2021 18: 16
      +6
      "only energy has become less" alas, we are all like that. At 20, everyone believes that if he is not a sex giant, then at least a master of sports in sex, and after 50 you remember and think: could I really do that?
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 17: 32
    0
    Quote: Astra wild2
    * collector of living women ", and where do you keep them?

    Only in memories and in photographs. Partly in gifts and, oddly enough for our time, in a few paper letters that I hide from my wife.
    Do not drag real aunts to the family hearth. The wife would be shocked.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub April 29 2021 18: 19
      +8
      And the wife, perhaps, somewhere on the shelf keeps her archive about the cat, husbands are not supposed to know?
    2. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 29 2021 20: 06
      +3
      I have an "archive" - ​​an old note with a cipher: at my grandmother-95kv37Arik. ... 32 school 3: th b Vova. Means: near the 32nd sh-ly, 3rd house, There are several more records with a similar code. Even the most jealous husband cannot suspect anything.
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 29 2021 18: 08
    +3
    "his team decided to return to Spain" if they returned, what did they say at home: "on a dark, dark night there was a terrible storm and everyone drowned"? And when the last ship returned and the sailors told the truth about them? A deserter always remains a deserter, and it is unlikely that then k were more humane than in the 20th century.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 29 2021 18: 27
    -3
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    However, being a balabol until old age is not so bad.
    You're good at yes


    I have a lot to strive for.
    I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the work of my old, now deceased, comrade Roma Kashigin, who wrote under the nickname Mzungu. I have trampled many African paths with him over the past 10 years, excluding the past 2020.
    He was a talented, albeit obscene author. To find his work on the internet, it is enough to indicate his name and surname. You can also indicate his nickname Mzungu. There are especially many of his stories on the Boa Resource.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 30 2021 11: 28
    0
    Quote: vladcub
    "only energy has become less" alas, we are all like that. At 20, everyone believes that if he is not a sex giant, then at least a master of sports in sex, and after 50 you remember and think: could I really do that?


    Ehhh. Apparently you were good at 20 years old.
    And at 20, my thoughts were busy with how to make the world a better place. And thoughts led to rather risky actions. For some reason, there was no time for women. However, like them, regret it was not up to me.

    Only when more or less money came to the age of 27-29, then it was possible to become interesting for the female sex. From about this age, I took revenge on the girls for a decade of inattention to myself.

    I think that for today's Russian youth, there are no more options for enriching themselves at the age of 30 (unless you originally come from a wealthy family).
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 30 2021 11: 31
    0
    Quote: vladcub
    And the wife, perhaps, somewhere on the shelf keeps her archive about the cat, husbands are not supposed to know?


    It is possible. But I don’t mind. After all, I married her at the age of 40, when she herself was already 38 years old and had a 10-year-old son from her previous alcoholic husband.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 30 2021 11: 33
    0
    Quote: Astra wild2
    I have an "archive" - ​​an old note with a cipher: at my grandmother-95kv37Arik. ... 32 school 3: th b Vova. Means: near the 32nd sh-ly, 3rd house, There are several more records with a similar code. Even the most jealous husband cannot suspect anything.


    I agree with you. Memory must be preserved, for we are valuable to ourselves precisely by the memory of ourselves. The rest by and large sneeze at us.
    And about your husband - of course, it is better not to give reasons for jealousy. Although a jealous spouse is jealous by itself and for no reason.
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 April 30 2021 18: 28
    0
    Quote: Okolotochny
    Not much compared to some of my comrades. About 70. While some of my comrades counted up to 500, up to 700, and two called the number 1200.

    A man, if he is a Man, is not like that .... Comilfo to brag about such in public (on the Internet on the forum). Don’t you? Somehow it jars from your lines.


    I don’t find it. I was asked a question. I gave the answer. I do not light here either my personality, or the personalities of my former ladies and friends. So it's okay.