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US begins to deploy SAM M-SHORAD

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One of the M-SHORAD machines transferred to 5-4 ADA


The US Army begins planned re-equipment of military air defense units. One of these divisions received the first batch of M-SHORAD self-propelled anti-aircraft missile and gun systems. In the near future, the equipment will undergo experimental military operation, according to the results of which the process of full rearmament will be launched.

The beginning of rearmament


The 5th battalion of the 4th anti-aircraft artillery regiment (5th Battalion, 4th Air Defense Artillery Regiment or 5-4 ADA) from the 10th command of the US Army's anti-missile and air defense in Europe was selected as the first operator of the new M-SHORAD air defense missile systems. This division was formed in 2018 and is based in Ansbach (Germany). Since its inception, the battalion has used Avenger short-range missile systems.

Last year, 18 ADA 5-4 troops were deployed in the previous phase of the M-SHORAD program. They underwent the necessary training and participated in the tests of the complex for several months. Now they will be able to transfer their knowledge and skills to the entire battalion.


On April 23, the Pentagon announced the transfer of the first four air defense missile systems of a new type to the 5th battalion. According to some reports, we are talking about an experimental technique previously used in field trials. The complexes were received partially dismantled - in particular, there are no automatic cannons. After the installation of the missing units, the air defense missile systems should go into operation in order to train new crews.

ZRPK M-SHORAD has already entered mass production, and deliveries of the first batches are expected soon. It was announced that by the end of September this year, ADA 5-4 will receive another 28 new complexes. Thanks to this, the fleet of such equipment will be brought up to the staffing number of 32 units, which will allow starting a full-fledged service, as well as completely replacing the outdated Avengers.

First of four


The goal of the M-SHORAD program is to modernize military air defense through the construction and deployment of missile and gun systems of the same name. Currently, the first stage of the program is being implemented, during which they are going to re-equip four existing anti-aircraft battalions / divisions.


The first of these is the 5-4 ADA, serving in Germany. In the near future, a similar rearmament of three more units will begin. What divisions and battalions will receive new equipment has not yet been reported. It is only known that they are stationed in the United States.

As part of the first phase of the program, the Pentagon will acquire and distribute 144 new-type combat vehicles. Each of the divisions / battalions will receive 32 units. Two units will be re-equipped by the end of the current fiscal year, and the remaining two will switch to new equipment during FY2022.

Rapid development


Work on the promising M-SHORAD air defense missile system started in February 2018.The goal of the project was to create a self-propelled military air defense system to combat a wide range of air threats typical of modern conflicts. One of the main requirements for the project was to use the maximum possible number of ready-made components and assemblies, due to which it was planned to reduce the development time - for the fastest launch of the series and rearmament.

Already in June 2018, the head developer of the complex was selected - the Leonardo DRS company (the American branch of the Italian Leonardo). American and foreign organizations were involved in the project as suppliers of individual units.


Prototypes of the new air defense missile system were built and tested last year. According to the test results, at the end of September, a contract worth $ 1,2 billion appeared for the production of serial equipment for subsequent delivery to the troops. The construction work was entrusted to General Dynamics Land Systems. The contract begins with the construction of 28 vehicles with a total cost of $ 230 million.

Thus, one of the key tasks of the M-SHORAD project was successfully completed. A little over two and a half years passed from the launch of the program to the signing of the contract for the series. After another six months, the first anti-aircraft complexes of the new type entered the combat unit, and in a few months the 5-4 ADA will reach full combat readiness on the new materiel.

Modular approach


To speed up and simplify the development of a new type of air defense missile system, they were made on the well-mastered Stryker serial chassis. On such a machine, it was proposed to mount the Mission Equipment Package (MEP), formed by the forces of Leonardo DRS.


The most notable component of the MEP is the Reconfigurable Integrated-weapons Platform (RIwP) turret from Moog. The turret has an artillery mount with a 30-mm XM914 cannon and a 7,62-mm M240 machine gun, as well as two launchers for two types of missiles. To attack air targets, it is proposed to use FIM-92 Stinger and AGM-114 Hellfire missiles - 4 and 2 pcs. respectively.

Target detection and tracking is carried out using the Multi-Mission Hemispheric Radar (MHR) from the Israeli company Rada Electronic Industries. It includes four AFARs, placed at the corners of the roof of the carrier vehicle. Such a complex conducts circular observation in the upper hemisphere and is capable of detecting a large air target at ranges of at least 20-25 km. Detection of nano-drones is provided from 5 km. The MX-GCS optoelectronic unit on the RIwP turret is used to control the barrel armament and for the initial missile guidance.

Inside the combat vehicle are control units for observation and weapons, crew jobs, etc. It also provides for the possibility of transporting additional missiles for reloading launchers.

The main task of MEP / M-SHORAD is to combat air targets in the near zone. Depending on the type of object detected, it is possible to use a machine gun, cannon or missiles with different combat qualities. Such a complex of weapons can also be used against any ground targets, from manpower to armored vehicles.


It is believed that the new ZRPK meets all the requirements. It is capable of striking all designated targets and is highly flexible in its use. At the same time, in all characteristics and capabilities, the M-SHORAD surpasses the existing Avenger near-field complex.

Solving Problems


ZRPK M-SHORAD was created as a response to current challenges and threats. The current state of the military air defense of the US Army leaves much to be desired - in fact, it is being built only on the Avenger complexes, which no longer meet modern requirements. In this regard, in 2018, the development of several new samples with different characteristics and capabilities was launched, capable of fighting a wide range of targets, from aircraft to small UAVs.

The first of the new models in three years was brought to a series and trial operation in the army. In the near future, rearmament with the M-SHORAD will continue, and then new models for military air defense may enter service. So, work continues on the laser complex on the Stryker chassis. In the medium term, the new technology will make it possible to abandon outdated samples.

Thus, the big problems of the American military air defense are being solved, and it was possible to fulfill some of the assigned tasks in a short time. Now the fate of air defense depends not so much on promising projects as on contractor organizations and their ability to build the required amount of equipment in a timely manner.
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  1. Intruder
    Intruder April 27 2021 18: 37
    -1
    Target detection and tracking is carried out using the Multi-Mission Hemispheric Radar (MHR) from the Israeli company Rada Electronic Industries. It includes four AFARs, placed at the corners of the roof of the carrier vehicle. Such a complex conducts circular observation in the upper hemisphere and is capable of detecting a large air target at ranges of at least 20-25 km. Detection of nano-drones is provided from 5 km. The MX-GCS optoelectronic unit on the RIwP turret is used to control the armament and for the initial missile guidance.

    Recording machine - "Singer"! wink
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    2. Private-K
      Private-K April 28 2021 07: 53
      +3
      This air defense missile system should become the main anti-aircraft weapon of the brigade-division level.
      At the same time, I will be armed with anti-aircraft missiles from MANPADS and an advanced ATGM.
      This is nothing. This is bullshit and crap, not an anti-aircraft weapon.
      As an auxiliary, to support real air defense systems with more effective missiles than from portable ones - still all right. And so, in the role of the main one, it is completely unsuitable.
      1. psiho117
        psiho117 April 29 2021 13: 54
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        Quote: Private-K
        in the role of the main one, it is completely unsuitable.

        The "main role" of the Americans is traditionally performed by the Air Force.
        That's how they have it ...
        1. sivuch
          sivuch April 29 2021 15: 52
          +2
          The "main role" of the Americans is traditionally performed by the Air Force.
          That's how they have it ...
          Do not you say ! And we didn’t know .. For small UAVs and harpies, too, will aviation chase?
          1. psiho117
            psiho117 April 29 2021 22: 10
            +1
            Quote: sivuch
            For small submarines

            Along the way, they relied on laser missile defense / air defense, and are waiting for the technology to allow this business to be launched into the masses.
            They just need to wait another 7-10 years, they will just finish all sorts of HELs to mass production.
    3. Tonev
      Tonev April 28 2021 18: 22
      0
      Quote: Intruder
      Such a complex conducts circular observation in the upper hemisphere and is able to detect a large air target at ranges of at least 20-25 km.

      To do this, you need to know the EPR. These are not radar parameters!
  2. Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst April 27 2021 18: 42
    0
    That's really really-saw the dough! And after that "not a mouse, not a frog, but an unknown animal" someone turns their tongue "Carapace" to criticize ?! I would only take a closer look at the radar station, it seems there is a zest in it ... But for the LGBT army, the main thing is not to mix up the correct colors in order and sell to Ukraine at an exorbitant price.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 27 2021 19: 01
      +3
      Quote: Scharnhorst
      That's really really-saw the dough! And after that "not a mouse, not a frog, but an unknown animal" someone turns their tongue "Carapace" to criticize ?! I would only take a closer look at the radar station, it seems there is a zest in it ... But for the LGBT army, the main thing is not to mix up the correct colors in order and sell to Ukraine at an exorbitant price.

      And it seems to me that, as a direct air defense of a battalion / company, it is quite a good machine. This is not an object air defense system.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik April 27 2021 19: 08
        +5
        I would see this vehicle as just a company reinforcement, not really an air defense system.
        Radars work on air and ground. Can detect targets beyond 360-degree optical visibility. Spotting mortar fire, can calculate the position of the mortar.
        The cannon and machine gun can work on infantry. Moreover, 30 mm projectiles with controlled detonation will do this very effectively.
        Stingers can work on non-armored targets at distances up to 7,6 km.
        Hellfires in general for all types of targets (including tanks) at a distance of up to 8 km.
        Radars allow you to detect armored vehicles at maximum ranges, and the calculation of disguised ATGMs and other targets.

        1. Angry Alt-Right
          Angry Alt-Right April 28 2021 08: 59
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          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          I would see this vehicle as just a company reinforcement, not really an air defense system.
          Radars work on air and ground. Can detect targets beyond 360-degree optical visibility. Spotting mortar fire, can calculate the position of the mortar.
          The cannon and machine gun can work on infantry. Moreover, 30 mm projectiles with controlled detonation will do this very effectively.
          Stingers can work on non-armored targets at distances up to 7,6 km.
          Hellfires in general for all types of targets (including tanks) at a distance of up to 8 km.
          Radars allow you to detect armored vehicles at maximum ranges, and the calculation of disguised ATGMs and other targets.

          Well, yes, it turns out such an analogue of the "Terminator", in the context of the Stryker Brigade.
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik April 28 2021 09: 03
            -1
            Yes. The terminator needs radars and update the OLS, then it will also be able to fully operate on low-altitude UAVs.
            There are options for different teams.

      2. Private-K
        Private-K April 28 2021 07: 58
        +1
        For the battalion level it is a little expensive.
        At the same time, in the Russian army, the air defense battalion outfit consists of such full-fledged air defense systems as Tunguska + the latest MANPADS have long been contoured on an automated air defense system. And soon, new air defense systems and new air defense systems with previously unavailable properties and capabilities will come.
        This Shorad is nothing more than a temporary palliative measure, an ersatz-SAM, and not a full-fledged one.
      3. sivuch
        sivuch April 28 2021 09: 23
        +2
        I doubt it. The wheelbase means there will be inevitable restrictions on cross-country ability. The ammunition is small enough. Shells and Thors sometimes lacked 12-16 missiles, and there are only 4 Stingers. Weather restrictions - for the whole head. Even if the radar detects the target, how the Stinger seeker will lock onto the target even in light rain is an interesting question. The same question for small UAVs. Of the advantages - the presence of a radar and controlled detonation.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik April 28 2021 10: 31
          -1
          Quote: sivuch
          Wheelbase means there will be inevitable restrictions on cross-country ability

          It is made for the Stryker Brigades. There are all Stryker armored vehicles, with a single cross-country ability.
          Quote: sivuch
          The ammunition is small enough. Shells and Thors sometimes lacked 12-16 missiles, and there are only 4 Stingers.

          Machines are made for different tasks. IM-SHORAD analogue of Tunguska. The shell needs to remove the cannons and put another block of missiles, which would be a total of 18 pieces. In the United States, a Universal Launcher is being developed; it can be compared with a shell, and even then not quite.

          Quote: sivuch
          how the Stinger seeker will lock onto the target even in light rain is an interesting question.

          Starting with the FIM-92E version, there is no such question, it captures confidently.
          1. sivuch
            sivuch April 28 2021 11: 36
            +1
            It is made for the Stryker Brigades. There are all Stryker armored vehicles, with a single cross-country ability.
            Okay . That is, on the rice check everyone will be stuck in the same way.
            Machines are made for different tasks. IM-SHORAD analogue of Tunguska.
            do not understand . even on Tunguska, at least 8 zur with a longer range (ie, target firing can be started earlier). And now 5 harpies fly to this shorad from different directions ...
            Starting with the FIM-92E version, there is no such question, it captures confidently.
            Who captures the dragon Glaurung? If you put your TPV head on, this does not mean at all that all the problems with rain / fog have disappeared. They just became much smaller.
            1. Angry Alt-Right
              Angry Alt-Right April 29 2021 22: 24
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              Quote: sivuch
              It is made for the Stryker Brigades. There are all Stryker armored vehicles, with a single cross-country ability.
              Okay . That is, on the rice check everyone will be stuck in the same way.
              Machines are made for different tasks. IM-SHORAD analogue of Tunguska.
              do not understand . even on Tunguska, at least 8 zur with a longer range (ie, target firing can be started earlier). And now 5 harpies fly to this shorad from different directions ...
              Starting with the FIM-92E version, there is no such question, it captures confidently.
              Who captures the dragon Glaurung? If you put your TPV head on, this does not mean at all that all the problems with rain / fog have disappeared. They just became much smaller.

              This is not an analogue of Tunguska, it is an American analogue of the Terminator, adjusted for further equipping the same system with a laser (no kidding, it was on VO infa on this score) and adjusted for the platform (i.e. Stryker).
          2. Tonev
            Tonev April 28 2021 18: 41
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            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            Starting with the FIM-92E version, there is no such question, it captures confidently.

            This is not a short-range air defense missile, but a parody.
            1. psiho117
              psiho117 April 30 2021 03: 46
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              Quote: Tonev
              This is ... a parody

              In fact, in the American segment of the Internet, this machine has caused the same bewilderment, as well as ours. Local users just go nuts on the forums and ask "What the fuck is this?"
              Prada, they also wonder why this car is so ... cheap bully
              In their opinion, less than lam bucks for such a complex is cheap.
          3. Klingon
            Klingon 15 June 2021 18: 18
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            Yes, the shell needs to remove the cannons and put one laser and one Kord. I think that it is not particularly difficult to make a laser to produce a 150kW laser. The laser is needed to work on all sorts of Harpies, MAMLs and handicrafts on the DJI platform and aircraft modeling circles, it's cheaper. Cord for taking care of the bearded in the bushes
      4. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 28 2021 16: 20
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        And it seems to me that, as a direct air defense of a battalion / company, it is quite a good machine. This is not an object air defense system.

        At the battalion level, it is better to have a battery of normal portable air defense systems with an armored personnel carrier / control point than this miracle Yudo.
        SAM MANPADS was initially sharpened for the ability to carry the complex by the crew. Therefore, combat performance characteristics in it are "stabbed" for the sake of reducing weight and dimensions. For a portable MANPADS, this is justified, since it is more than compensated for by the extremely low visibility and "ubiquity" - the calculation with the pipe can climb anywhere. It doesn't matter that the range is small, but the calculation can be anywhere, and it will be detected only after launch.
        As soon as we put MANPADS on equipment, we immediately lose these main advantages of MANPADS. But the disadvantages remain. As a result, we have a low-power and short-sighted missile defense system on a fairly well-visible chassis, which, moreover, is tied to the terrain accessible to it.
        An air defense missile system on a chassis needs a more powerful missile defense system, which with a longer range and warhead power compensates for the greater visibility and reduction in the area of ​​possible location of this air defense system.
  3. Alex_You
    Alex_You April 27 2021 18: 44
    +4
    Just wondering how they got Helfair going to work by air? The fuse is contact, it flies slowly and only 8 km, and if we take into account that they will be allowed to start up from the bottom up, and actively maneuver, then even less. It's an ATGM!
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik April 27 2021 18: 49
      +4
      AGM-114R Hellfire II (Hellfire Romeo)

      Production: 2012-Present
      Target: All targets
      Range: 8000 m (8700 yards)
      Guide:
      Semi-active laser homing
      Warhead: Multipurpose warhead, reduced net explosive weight for low collateral damage (R-9E and R-9H).
      Weight: 49 kg (108 lbs)
      Speed: Mach 1.3
      Length: 180cm (5'11 '')
      Unit Cost: $ 99,600 (All-Up Round, 2015 USD)

      Test video:
      1. psiho117
        psiho117 April 29 2021 14: 06
        +1
        Now look how much slow recharging occurs.
        Look at the rate of fire of the cannon. Helfire's flight speed.
        For scanty ammunition ready for battle.
        Yes, I do not see a single frame in this video that would not cause a huge a bunch of questions, under loud hand-face slaps.
        In short, what is this enchanting crap ?! am
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik April 29 2021 14: 43
          -1
          This system is made for a specific army, with specific tasks. Hawks, Hercules, Rolands, Volcanoes, etc. were decommissioned in the 90s, after that, as there were no targets for such air defense systems, there are still no. There is a threat of low-altitude UAVs, against which everything they have in the armed forces is useless, this problem was solved. In parallel, creating a reinforcement for the Striker's mouths, increasing their situational awareness and firepower.
          There is another direction of C-RAM, this is defense against artillery, mortars, MLRS are being developed there more interesting systems.
          1. sivuch
            sivuch April 29 2021 15: 53
            +2
            this problem was solved.
            This problem was not solved.
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          2. psiho117
            psiho117 April 29 2021 22: 05
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            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            There is a threat of low-altitude UAVs, against which everything they have in the armed forces is useless, this problem was solved


            I laugh wildly.
            What did they decide there? how to cut some money?
            This pepeladz is not sharpened at all for the fight against drones and their weapons.
            4 Stingers, 2 Helfair and a cannon removed from the Apache ... Oh yes, you will be ready to fight to the shit, just manage to fly up to this mega-killer.
            And yes, I remind you - the Apache cannon is bullshit, if anyone doesn't know.
            In addition, she uses others, significantly weaker ammunition - 30 × 113mm, instead of 30 × 173mm. The ballistics of these projectiles is close to 12,7mm.
            And in the lineup of these ammunition no shells with dist. undermining.
            These shells - 30 × 113mm LW30 PROX only are being developed... Accordingly, this module can only fire with conventional OFS, with an accuracy of plus or minus 5 meters (who does not believe - we watch videos with Apache shooting in Afghanistan)
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik April 29 2021 22: 20
              -3
              Quote: psiho117
              4 Stingers, 2 Helfaers

              For drones flying at a speed of 100-200 km / h is more than enough, specify what these targets are.
              Quote: psiho117
              30 × 113mm LW30 PROX are under development.

              A year ago, the tests were completed and the troops went. Lagging behind life.

              Bored with you
              1. psiho117
                psiho117 April 30 2021 03: 33
                +1
                Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                A year ago, the tests were completed and the troops went. Lagging behind life

                Proofs please.
                Because there is a very long distance from "pre-coronavirus" wishes to reality. The last infa about this ammunition is August 19, and hints that next year will probably be tested.
                Something tells me that there was a pandemic, instead of testing.
                And it's even still going on, can you imagine? soldier

                In addition, can you show me one mention that the XM914 has been upgraded to use shells with a remote fuse?
                You will not show, because there was no such thing.
                And this is natural, for there are no such shells, of course.
                Moreover, even in the developer's statements, there is not a single mention that IM-SHORAD will receive this ammunition in the future.
                It's just a stabilized, whimsical Apache cannon, with a relatively weak cartridge, with fig ballistics.
                [i] And the LW30 PROX itself is being developed by order of the Air Force for the Apaches, and not at all for the ground forces. And how the US Air Force "loves" the US Army and its anti-aircraft troops - ask yourself something. [i]

                Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                For drones flying at a speed of 100-200 km / h is more than enough, specify what these targets are.

                Check the number of "these targets", as well as their RCS, the required number of launches to defeat, and the reload speed of the complex.
                And it would also be nice to estimate the rationality of firing a heavy rocket with 49kg - warheads against drones with Ali-Express
                1. OgnennyiKotik
                  OgnennyiKotik April 30 2021 10: 14
                  -2
                  Quote: psiho117
                  The last infa about this ammunition is August 19, and hints that next year will probably be tested.


                  Northrop Grumman Defense Systems completed state tests of its programmable lightweight 30mm remote sensing cartridge (LW30 PROX) and within a year goes to qualification and sending a cartridge in the air defense echelons of the US Army and the US Marine Corps.

                  The LW30 PROX is a 30 × 113 mm radio frequency (RF) non-contact high-explosive / fragmentation projectile designed for use with Northrop Grumman M230 Bushmaster variant chain guns (M230, M230 Link Fed and XM914).

                  https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/northrop-grumman-moves-to-lw30-prox-qualification-m-ace-cuas-testing
                  Quote: psiho117
                  In addition, can you show me one mention that the XM914 has been upgraded to use shells with a remote fuse?

                  Above. M230LF is a special version for ground vehicles. Including IM-SHORAD.
                  Quote: psiho117
                  Specify the number of "these targets", as well as their EPR,

                  This system is made against class 1,2,3 UAVs. The number is small, 2-3 LA.

                  Quote: psiho117
                  rationality of firing a heavy rocket with 49kg - warheads on drones

                  The universal system works for air and ground targets.

                  https://www.leonardodrs.com/media/13589/m-shorad_datasheet.pdf
                  1. psiho117
                    psiho117 April 30 2021 11: 22
                    0
                    Well done, just finished, regardless of the circumstances.
                    Here are just to "went to the troops" - it has not come yet, otherwise the same Janes wrote about it. They are just going to pass qualification within a year, and, upon successful completion, are ready to start deliveries.
                    By the way, it is not clear to whom they are going to supply it, because neither the ILC of their Apache cannons for this projectile has yet been upgraded, nor IM-SHORAD, equipment for programming projectiles with dist. fuse has
                    M230LF is a special version for ground vehicles. Including IM-SHORAD

                    You are disingenuous. М230LF and XM914 are slightly different implements, from different companies and for different projects.
                    The M230LF is an M230 cannon upgraded by Northrop Grumman for a projectile with an enhanced powder charge and integrated projectile programming equipment. Designed for the Scorpion AD anti-drone vehicle.
                    The latest information about her is August 20th, field tests. The first shooting was planned for October (maybe there were, maybe not - a lot fell on America then - and a pandemic, and elections, and BLM pogroms).
                    XM914 is experienced a weapon (which is even clear from its index) from Kongsberg, intended for the IM-SHORAD project.
                    Equipment for firing projectiles with dist. invader - has.
                    1. OgnennyiKotik
                      OgnennyiKotik April 30 2021 11: 52
                      -1
                      Quote: psiho117
                      By the way, it is not clear to whom they are going to supply it, because neither the ILC

                      They have a similar Shorad program (with the XM914) based on the JLTV and arming the JLTV with a remote module with the M230LF or XM914.


                      Quote: psiho117
                      М230LF and XM914 are slightly different implements, from different companies and for different projects.

                      Yes, I'm confusing. Thanks for the amendment.
                      Quote: psiho117
                      Here are just to "went to the troops" - it has not come yet,

                      I will not rummage through the procurement documents, sorry.

                      With the fact that without controlled detonation of shells - this is a gun for self-defense against infantry and light armored vehicles - I agree. I also agree with the fact that there is no direct indication that these shells are in the armament. But this does not mean that they are not there or will not be in the near future. We are waiting for the next news and more information.
                      1. psiho117
                        psiho117 April 30 2021 18: 21
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                        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                        With the fact that without controlled detonation of shells - this is a gun for self-defense against infantry and light armored vehicles - I agree. I also agree with the fact that there is no direct indication that these shells are in the armament. But this does not mean that they are not there or will not be in the near future. We are waiting for the next news and more information.

                        Now my hohlyak-Jewish soul is completely satisfied hi
    2. Private-K
      Private-K April 28 2021 08: 10
      +2
      If we compare the performance characteristics of the Helfire even with the ancient, still Soviet, 9M311 SAM for the Tunguska, then the completely unsatisfactory characteristics of the Helfire are quite obvious: low energy and insufficient maneuverability and speed.
      At the same time, the 9M311 rocket has long been considered obsolete and replaced with new improved models.

      Americans are VERY MUCH lagging behind in military air defense.
  4. garri-lin
    garri-lin April 27 2021 18: 59
    +3
    A highly controversial papelace. Not all !!!!
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 April 27 2021 19: 10
    +4
    Installing different weapons systems on one, two, unified chassis ... there are pros and cons.
    What they get as a result will have to be seen.
    And so, obviously, they adhere to the old concept - first I will bomb everyone, and then aviation should protect from various surprises.
    SAM is so, just in case, the last frontier.
    Those. this "malbrook" is not going to be wasted and will / wants to fight only with the "Papuans"!
  6. Tsoy
    Tsoy April 27 2021 19: 11
    +3
    Maybe so-so against the background of analogs, but better than Avenger. That one is generally based on a Humvee and is outdated a long time ago. Plus they collected from what was in the series, which accelerated adoption.
    1. psiho117
      psiho117 April 29 2021 14: 11
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      Quote: Choi
      Maybe not so-so against the background of analogs, but better than Avenger

      Not surprisingly, Avenger Kag-Bae 1989 release.
      But something more is expected from the system, which has left Avenger for 30 years ... Yes, anything more than this high-pseudo-air defense.
      The Avenger at least had twice the Stingers ammunition load and was easier to reload there.
  7. lopvlad
    lopvlad April 27 2021 20: 38
    +2
    Detection of nano-drones is provided from 5 km.


    apparently somewhere in the US army there is a Chubais who saws the American military budget, spreading them on the topic of combating nano-drones.

    - Do you see the nano-drone? -
    - And he is there! -
  8. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 April 27 2021 22: 05
    +1
    This is about how, instead of the standard 6 missiles, on the OSU, 2 different missiles are provided on the launcher. Taking into account "fire and forget" it may and will work, but doubts remain ...
    1. 1Alexey
      1Alexey April 28 2021 00: 21
      +2
      Quote: Aleksandr97
      instead of the standard 6 missiles on the launcher, provide 2 different missiles

      Why 2 rockets? We are talking about 6 missiles: 4 of one type and 2 of another:
      To attack air targets, it is proposed to use FIM-92 Stinger and AGM-114 Hellfire missiles - 4 and 2 pcs. respectively.
      1. psiho117
        psiho117 April 29 2021 14: 17
        0
        Quote: 1Alexey
        Why 2 rockets? We are talking about 6 missiles: 4 of one type and 2 of another.

        Because the applicability of the heavy, slow Hellfire as an analogue to Stinger raises great doubts.
        Its low aerodynamic characteristics allow it to hit only a certain range of air targets - and, as a rule, 49kg warheads are completely redundant for their destruction.
        Rather, I believe that it will be used as a universal missile to destroy ground targets.
  9. Barberry25
    Barberry25 April 27 2021 22: 15
    -1
    An attempt to mold at least something ... and for the price it will be like the Shell ..
  10. riwas
    riwas April 28 2021 04: 53
    +1
    An interesting setup. But how will it defend itself against the UR and UAB of the same attack drones and helicopters?
    1. Private-K
      Private-K April 28 2021 08: 13
      +3
      a) it is not interesting in anything;)) (except for those who make money on it)
      b) UR air-to-ground - no way; UAB - no way; standard Russian military UAVs - nothing at all;))
      In general - a good anti-aircraft gun! Let them produce and play with her. ;)
    2. sivuch
      sivuch April 28 2021 09: 25
      +3
      As a matter of fact - in no way, in the same way as from loitering ammunition.
  11. Alexander Raskatov
    Alexander Raskatov April 28 2021 17: 07
    +1
    Such a complex conducts circular observation in the upper hemisphere and is capable of detecting a large air target at ranges of at least 20-25 km. Detection of nano-drones is provided from 5 km.

    It should also be said that the Multifunctional Hemispherical Radar is capable of detecting targets: an artillery shell / mortar mine 5-10 km away (depending on caliber), armored vehicles at a distance of 17-20 km.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik April 28 2021 17: 08
      -1
      Data from the manufacturer's website. Auto-translation.


  12. Cypyk
    Cypyk 17 July 2021 14: 13
    0
    Created against UAVs, helicopters, and ground vehicles. The helfire missile has no counterparts yet "fire and forget", the Russian defense industry still has laser target designation missiles.
  13. Cypyk
    Cypyk 17 July 2021 14: 16
    0
    Every military equipment of advanced countries is of high interest to many techies and analysts.
    For example, I like our Chrysanthemum.