US press: Iran initially hid the truth about the downed Ukrainian Boeing

Iran initially knew about the missile strike on a UIA passenger airliner, but hid the truth about the downed Ukrainian Boeing. At the insistence of the Iranian military, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, for three days after the disaster, denied Tehran's involvement in it and named technical reasons as a working version.

This was reported by the New York Times, referring to the audio recording of the conversation of the Foreign Minister of the Islamic Republic with the economist Said Leylaz, which was at its disposal.

The record testifies to the contradictions between him and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), in particular, with General Qasem Soleimani, who commanded the Quds Special Forces, killed by the American military. The minister complained that the IRGC ignored government decisions and influenced government policy.

According to the entry, Zarif was unhappy with the fact that Suleimani, to the detriment of Tehran's interests, promoted an aggressive policy in Syria and the Middle East in general.

The US press also claims that the Quds commander allegedly acted in concert with Russia and tried to thwart the nuclear deal. But for some reason the American press does not remind its readers that the United States was the first to withdraw from this deal.

On January 8, 2020, near Tehran, an Iranian missile destroyed a Boeing 737 passenger aircraft belonging to the Ukrainian airline UIA and performing a Tehran-Kiev flight. Of the 176 passengers and crew on board, none survived.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

I don't know ... All these conspiracy theories. Audio recording in our age is a piece of cake. And what difference does that make, even if it is genuine? The plane was shot down, people died, they admitted their guilt.
Sorry for the people.

[Bashkirkhan]

Iranian air defense officers confused a tomahawk with a length of just over 5 m with a huge passenger airliner at least 40 m long. That's all.

[svp67]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Iranian air defense officers confused a tomahawk with a length of just over 5 m with a huge passenger airliner at least 40 m long. That's all.

Just like the American ones in their time ...

[tatiana korzhenko]

And what exactly did the Americans confuse? If we were talking about the Iranian Boeing, then they did not confuse him with a missile. There was a suspicion that he was going to the ship, given that he had deviated from the air route.

[svp67]

Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko

If we are talking about an Iranian Boeing, then it was not confused with a missile

Yeah, he was just "confused" with the F-14 of the Iranian Air Force

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko

And what exactly did the Americans confuse? If we were talking about the Iranian Boeing, then they did not confuse him with a missile. There was a suspicion that he was going to the ship, given that he had deviated from the air route.

And in 83rd, the Korean KE007 did not deviate from the course by either 300 or 500 kilometers, didn't it? And the Americans, because of their "suspicions", heroes who heroically defended their ship, and on the USSR then, because of this reconnaissance and obviously provocative flight, only conspiracy with the Martians to destroy America did not hang. The rest is all, right up to the assassination of Kennedy and the eruption of Krakatoa.

America can have "suspicions" and, on this basis, shoot down anyone, but the rest cannot?

Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi?

[hirurg]

Time has passed. There was nothing new in the investigation.
They took out dusty rags and began to shake them.
The task is to force Iran to agree to the agreement that the states need.
But Iran is ready to return to the agreement, without additional body kits.
That is how it was.

[Kaman]

And the rest have too. Your heart calmed down on September 1, 1983?

[tatiana korzhenko]

You read the materials on this incident with the South Korean Boeing. It was not at all like it was then told to the people.

[venik]

Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko

If we are talking about the Iranian Boeing, then it was not confused with a missile.

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Boeing was not confused with a rocket! That's for sure! Firstly, because it was not a Boeing, but an Airbus A300B2-203, and secondly, because the Americans themselves later stated that they allegedly confused it with the Iranian F-14A Tomcat (at what "Phenomenal accuracy" in determining the EPR was demonstrated by the vaunted BIUS "Aegis" !!! "To confuse" a fighter and a huge airliner! This is - IT IS NECESSARY TO KNOW !!! ......
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Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko

There was a suspicion that he was going to the ship, given that he had deviated from the airway.

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Nothing of this happened, because the "Airbus" did not deviate ANYWHERE, but flew DIRECT linking Bandar Abbas and Dubai! Moreover, as shown by further analysis of the Aegis BIUS records - at the moment of the missile launch the plane was gaining altitude, and the Vincennes cruiser itself was in IRANIAN territorial waters!

[tatiana korzhenko]

The Aegis, as far as I know, did not exist then, and the A-300 (previously mistaken by calling it Boeing) began to descend in the direction of the ship. The Ukrainian Boeing, however, does not look like a cruise missile at all and it flew away, which only speaks of complete disorder Iranian air defense, considering also the fact that there are two parallel armies and one is not coordinated with the other.

[Kelwin]

Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko

And what exactly did the American people get confused?

Yes, they all mixed up. Somehow they managed to identify a civilian cow as F14, it is nirazu not to be surprised at someone's, it does not respond to friend or foe and to requests on military frequencies. The flight profile is also not a reason to think with your head ... although what I mean, there were mattresses in the CIC, they are not supposed to think about it, right?

[Kelwin]

Tatyana, no one shot down the 17th, neither these nor these, there was no anti-aircraft missile. There was a blast on board, and not one. We will not argue, because tired, just fix this moment and when the truth comes up, and it comes up, then remember

[Kelwin]

And what are the conclusions, it says "If it was an anti-aircraft missile, it could only have been 9M38. "In other words, AA does not claim that there was a missile. Why are they hiding in the Kremlin, I don’t know, they don’t report, but I know that at the same time cut all communications and break into three parts the glider of the 777th on the echelon it is possible only by blowing up the fixings on board. And not just anywhere, but in strictly defined places. And a rocket is bullshit ...

[Kelwin]

It depends on what you call bullshit, strictly speaking no one said anything specifically. And then, it’s like geopolitics, there are rules of the game.

[Cossack 471]

Girkin could simply "write down" the next victory at his own expense. And the fact that the Boeing was shot down by the militia is very doubtful And they are based on that. that when the APU shot down a Russian Tu-154 over the Black Sea. then the Americans two hours later showed a photo of the rocket's flight and said who shot down the same story with our other plane. which was blown up by terrorists over the Sinai Peninsula. Rescuers have not yet reached the crash site. and the mattresses already said that it was a terrorist attack and showed a photo from the crash site
And only with Boeing over Donbass they have been talking for seven years. that there are documents exposing Russia But they are so secret. that it is impossible to present them
Do not tell me. what is so secret in the Donetsk network?
Just if you admit it. and show that the plane was shot down by PPOshniki of Ukraine. then you will have to admit the fact of nonsense and lift sanctions from Russia And this is simply impossible!

[tatiana korzhenko]

Air defense men? Exactly? And not the SU-25?

[Avior]

He also flew strictly in the other direction - from the country

[fruc]

Javad Zarif within three days after the disaster denied Tehran's involvement in it and named technical reasons as a working version ... The New York Times reported this

And this latrine-Times did not report how the ukronedoumki were knocked down on October 4, 2001. airliner Tu-154M of Siberia Airlines performed the planned SBI flight 1812 along the Tel Aviv-Novosibirsk route. Why do they keep quiet about it? Every time I need to talk about it remind and drive your face on the washboard.

[Kaman]

So these are claims to the developers of the S-200. On their account, first the TU-154M, and then the IL-20.

[fruc]

No, potheads have a bunch of shit instead of brains.

[tatiana korzhenko]

By the way, at that time these were joint exercises of "Kaklov" and "Non-Kaklov". So, in fact, Russia also took part in this.

[fruc]

Again, you are wrong, dear. At that very time, I had to serve in the Air Defense Forces at the command post of the North Caucasus region and I saw everything that is said in the on-line. The exercises were conducted by the Air Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Crimea at Cape Opuk. Even at this time, we had a direct connection with the command post of the Ukrainian Armed Forces brigade in Belbek. Everything else is known, I will not repeat myself. This is how it is, and do not bleat lies.

[Cossack 471]

Russia did not take part in the exercises of the PPO of Ukraine. My brother-in-law (now deceased) took part in these exercises on the S-125 air defense system. The instructors were their own. Ukrainian authorities gave them permission to shoot at the army USP near Kiev. where they fought off a training raid and passed all the tests

[Babermetis]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I don't know ... All these conspiracy theories. Audio recording in our age is a piece of cake. And what difference does that make, even if it is genuine? The plane was shot down, people died, they admitted their guilt.
Sorry for the people.

Oh ... let's cry and stop thinking! Should I give you a drink?

[ANB]

The giraffe is so long. Until it comes to him.
Did you get infected from the Czechs?
Iran has long admitted guilt and willingness to pay compensation.
Unlike Ukraine.

[Terenin]

Quote: ANB

The giraffe is so long. Until it comes to him.
Did you get infected from the Czechs?
Iran has long admitted guilt and willingness to pay compensation.
Unlike Ukraine.

This, a signal to the vassals, is another planned US info-attack on Iran.

[Babermetis]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: ANB

The giraffe is so long. Until it comes to him.
Did you get infected from the Czechs?
Iran has long admitted guilt and willingness to pay compensation.
Unlike Ukraine.

This, a signal to the vassals, is another planned US info-attack on Iran.

How long, days, has passed before the decision is made?

[Terenin]

Quote: Babermetis

Quote: Terenin

Quote: ANB

The giraffe is so long. Until it comes to him.
Did you get infected from the Czechs?
Iran has long admitted guilt and willingness to pay compensation.
Unlike Ukraine.

This, a signal to the vassals, is another planned US info-attack on Iran.

How long, days, has passed before the decision is made?

Don't you know that the United States keeps any international issue and situation on the brink of making a decision !?

[oleg-gr]

The destruction of a Ukrainian-owned Boeing 737 passenger plane is understandably shocking to the Iranians. It took time to develop a version of what happened or an explanation for the injured party.

[nnm]

The same techniques, methods ... and it does not matter whether it is true or not, whether there is evidence or not, all the world's leading media belong to the United States / Britain, which means that they WILL MAKE any lie true in the minds of billions of people.
That is why they say that whoever owns information owns the world.
Therefore, they are fighting so hard with those who carry a different point of view, like the same RT. But judging by the popularity of RT, there is a huge demand for information "from the other side".

[xorek]

Quote: nnm

The same techniques, methods ... and it doesn't matter if it's true or not, it doesn't matter if there is evidence or not - all the world's leading media belong to the United States / Britain,

Everything is exactly like that, they started to negative you, they are angry at the truth ..

[Alexander Betonkin]

Iran may have hidden it at first. But then he explained that there was a military facility nearby. And Ukraine does not want to admit to the downed plane. And apologize. Although what am I talking about?

[Babermetis]

Quote: Alexander Betonkin

Iran may have hidden it at first. But then he explained that there was a military facility nearby. And Ukraine does not want to admit to the downed plane. And apologize. Although what am I talking about?

And what are you talking about, comrade?

[xorek]

The US press also claims that the Quds commander allegedly acted in concert with Russia and tried to thwart the nuclear deal.

Well, we know where the ears are sticking out .. Again they dragged Russia
Iran is too tough for you while Russia is in Syria! Invent what you want vying with each other, pouring mud and fakes .. Russia will not leave the BV and we will support Iran in any development of the situation.

[Asad]

Well, Iran, too, so-so ,,, an ally ,,! If not for Russia, then Iran would have captured all of Syria along with the Basmachi.

[xorek]

Quote: ASAD

Well, Iran, too, so-so ,,, an ally ,,! If not for Russia, then Iran would have captured all of Syria along with the Basmachi.

If it were not for Russia, then Iran would have turned into Iraq .. This is 100%! And Syria would have ceased to exist altogether

[International Observer]

US press: Iran initially concealed the truth about the downed Ukrainian Boeing ...

Yes, Iran is now the enemy of the United States forever ... shot down a Boeing, and even a Ukrainian one. ... I would like to add a smiley face with a smile, but before my eyes there are innocently dead people ... and hypocritical creatures, including those from the United States, who will now make themselves happy on someone else's grief. ... It would be better if it was a military plane under the control of the "heroes" of the ATO and the passengers to be, too, the same "heroic".

[prior]

Americans, as always, are true to themselves. Another attempt to shift their own blame onto others.
It was the Americans who brought the situation to hysteria at that moment by committing a terrorist act on the territory of Iran (the murder of Suleimani). Iran lived in anticipation of an air raid. Ukrainian Boeing was at the wrong time, in the wrong place.
Similarly, Russia is accused of the conflict in the Donbass.
But the conflict in Donbass and the annexation of Crimea is the result of direct US interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine, in organizing and sponsoring the Ukrainian Maidan, and in fact a "color" coup d'etat.
Gentlemen. You crossed all the "red lines" in Iran and Ukraine.
So Ukraine should "thank" its American "friends" for the downed Boeing.

[evgen1221]

the Americans in Sumeria also, to some extent, found themselves in the right time and place. If it were not for the mediocre life of our ambassadors on the beaches and casinos of the Sumeria, as well as EBN and SB in general, then everything could have been different.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Chubaty themselves, piled up planes for 100 years, forward. They just wash the toilets and keep quiet.

[xorek]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Chubaty themselves, piled up planes for 100 years, forward. They just wash the toilets and keep quiet.

This is to the point, if you remember ..

[Ruslan Sulima]

laughing good This is to the point, if you remember ..

Well, Russia is not allowed, but we did so a little bit of ukroletunov in due time) True, we took revenge for ours ...

[evgen1221]

And the money has already been paid, if not, then the article is clearly at the request of the Sumerians to speed up the transfer of money, otherwise you are reluctant to spend your pennies on new Gucci trousers (I strongly doubt that at least something will reach the relatives of the victims).

[iouris]

What is the difference between what Iran paid to Ukraine and Ukraine to the victims (in USD)?

[Black lotos]

Quote: iouris

What is the difference between what Iran paid to Ukraine and Ukraine to the victims (in USD)?

By the way, I didn’t find that I had already paid. We collected / budgeted / payments from next year / compensation from insurers, etc. But I did not find a clear claim that payments were made.
There is little news this year.
UIA decided to compensate the families of the plane's crew who died in this tragedy. So the Ukrainian airline paid the relatives of the Ukrainians.

[Sands Careers General]

A muddy story. Although it is a pity for the peaceful.

[Babermetis]

"Off the feet of an amazing article" ... Where is the original, the author, your legs!?!

[Babermetis]

Quote: prior

Americans, as always, are true to themselves. Another attempt to shift their own blame onto others.
It was the Americans who brought the situation to hysteria at that moment by committing a terrorist act on the territory of Iran (the murder of Suleimani). Iran lived in anticipation of an air raid. Ukrainian Boeing was at the wrong time, in the wrong place.
Similarly, Russia is accused of the conflict in the Donbass.
But the conflict in Donbass and the annexation of Crimea is the result of direct US interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine, in organizing and sponsoring the Ukrainian Maidan, and in fact a "color" coup d'etat.
Gentlemen. You crossed all the "red lines" in Iran and Ukraine.
So Ukraine should "thank" its American "friends" for the downed Boeing.

Soleimani was killed in Iraq.

[Babermetis]

Write and create information field faster. Until the Israelites came running. They don't even have links to the greginal article, they just feel it.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Babermetis

Write and create information field faster. Until the Israelites came running. They don't even have links to the greginal article, they just feel it.

Don't be afraid. we won't cut you painfully. Just a chick and that's it.

[Babermetis]

Quote: andreykolesov123

Quote: Babermetis

Write and create information field faster. Until the Israelites came running. They don't even have links to the greginal article, they just feel it.

Don't be afraid. we won't cut you painfully.
Just a chick and that's it.

See for yourself do not cut yourself.

[bald]

Sadly, I apologize for the victims. And in fact, you don't have to think about the exclusivity of the states, in fact - the states, what a fucking bunch of people.

[andreykolesov123]

America is to blame, it was she who wanted to cover her cruise missiles with a Ukrainian liner. As in the case of the IL, Israel covered its aircraft at the base with a Russian aircraft. Neither the Syrian nor the Iranian air defense personnel are to blame. They are not Zionists or Bandera.

[DmSol]

And if you understand a little about the situation with the silt, it will become clear that the f-16 il-20 could not hide behind, and the blame was completely on the Syrian air defense crew, well, and a little more jamb in the issue of our interaction with the Syrians.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: DmSol

And if you understand a little about the situation with the silt, it will become clear that the f-16 il-20 could not hide behind, and the blame was completely on the Syrian air defense crew, well, and a little more jamb in the issue of our interaction with the Syrians.

And why figure it out. The Ministry of Defense announced the version: ILom covered themselves with a shield, so it was so. and figs that the SAM rocket explodes outside the aircraft and its shrapnel pierces the duralumin of the hull like cardboard. If an Israeli hawk had taken cover from the IL, it would have definitely been shot down with it. It's just that the one who came up with this version of the Ministry of Defense was some land general who heard the ringing, but could not understand the action of the SAM and MANPADS missiles. But the MO does not care about such minor inconsistencies.