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US press: Iran initially hid the truth about the downed Ukrainian Boeing

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Iran initially knew about the missile strike on a UIA passenger airliner, but hid the truth about the downed Ukrainian Boeing. At the insistence of the Iranian military, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, for three days after the disaster, denied Tehran's involvement in it and named technical reasons as a working version.


This was reported by the New York Times, referring to the audio recording of the conversation of the Foreign Minister of the Islamic Republic with the economist Said Leylaz, which was at its disposal.

The record testifies to the contradictions between him and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), in particular, with General Qasem Soleimani, who commanded the Quds Special Forces, killed by the American military. The minister complained that the IRGC ignored government decisions and influenced government policy.

According to the entry, Zarif was unhappy with the fact that Suleimani, to the detriment of Tehran's interests, promoted an aggressive policy in Syria and the Middle East in general.

The US press also claims that the Quds commander allegedly acted in concert with Russia and tried to thwart the nuclear deal. But for some reason the American press does not remind its readers that the United States was the first to withdraw from this deal.

On January 8, 2020, near Tehran, an Iranian missile destroyed a Boeing 737 passenger aircraft belonging to the Ukrainian airline UIA and performing a Tehran-Kiev flight. Of the 176 passengers and crew on board, none survived.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 26 2021 17: 33
    +7
    I don't know ... All these conspiracy theories. Audio recording in our age is a piece of cake. And what difference does that make, even if it is genuine? The plane was shot down, people died, they admitted their guilt.
    Sorry for the people.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan April 26 2021 17: 35
      -5
      Iranian air defense officers confused a tomahawk with a length of just over 5 m with a huge passenger airliner at least 40 m long. That's all.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 26 2021 17: 45
        +13
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Iranian air defense officers confused a tomahawk with a length of just over 5 m with a huge passenger airliner at least 40 m long. That's all.

        Just like the American ones in their time ...
        1. tatiana korzhenko
          tatiana korzhenko April 26 2021 18: 08
          -8
          And what exactly did the Americans confuse? If we were talking about the Iranian Boeing, then they did not confuse him with a missile. There was a suspicion that he was going to the ship, given that he had deviated from the air route.
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 26 2021 19: 15
            +5
            Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko
            If we are talking about an Iranian Boeing, then it was not confused with a missile

            Yeah, he was just "confused" with the F-14 of the Iranian Air Force
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A April 26 2021 20: 06
            +11
            Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko
            And what exactly did the Americans confuse? If we were talking about the Iranian Boeing, then they did not confuse him with a missile. There was a suspicion that he was going to the ship, given that he had deviated from the air route.

            And in 83rd, the Korean KE007 did not deviate from the course by either 300 or 500 kilometers, didn't it? And the Americans, because of their "suspicions", heroes who heroically defended their ship, and on the USSR then, because of this reconnaissance and obviously provocative flight, only conspiracy with the Martians to destroy America did not hang. The rest is all, right up to the assassination of Kennedy and the eruption of Krakatoa.

            America can have "suspicions" and, on this basis, shoot down anyone, but the rest cannot?
            Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi?
            1. hirurg
              hirurg April 26 2021 20: 42
              +4
              Time has passed. There was nothing new in the investigation.
              They took out dusty rags and began to shake them.
              The task is to force Iran to agree to the agreement that the states need.
              But Iran is ready to return to the agreement, without additional body kits.
              That is how it was.
            2. Kaman
              Kaman April 27 2021 08: 00
              -2
              And the rest have too. Your heart calmed down on September 1, 1983?
            3. tatiana korzhenko
              tatiana korzhenko April 27 2021 17: 21
              0
              You read the materials on this incident with the South Korean Boeing. It was not at all like it was then told to the people.
          3. venik
            venik April 26 2021 20: 38
            +8
            Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko
            If we are talking about the Iranian Boeing, then it was not confused with a missile.

            ======
            Boeing was not confused with a rocket! That's for sure! Firstly, because it was not a Boeing, but an Airbus A300B2-203, and secondly, because the Americans themselves later stated that they allegedly confused it with the Iranian F-14A Tomcat (at what "Phenomenal accuracy" in determining the EPR was demonstrated by the vaunted BIUS "Aegis" !!! "To confuse" a fighter and a huge airliner! This is - IT IS NECESSARY TO KNOW !!! ......
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            Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko
            There was a suspicion that he was going to the ship, given that he had deviated from the airway.

            ========
            Nothing of this happened, because the "Airbus" did not deviate ANYWHERE, but flew DIRECT linking Bandar Abbas and Dubai! Moreover, as shown by further analysis of the Aegis BIUS records - at the moment of the missile launch the plane was gaining altitude, and the Vincennes cruiser itself was in IRANIAN territorial waters!
            1. tatiana korzhenko
              tatiana korzhenko April 27 2021 17: 27
              0
              The Aegis, as far as I know, did not exist then, and the A-300 (previously mistaken by calling it Boeing) began to descend in the direction of the ship. The Ukrainian Boeing, however, does not look like a cruise missile at all and it flew away, which only speaks of complete disorder Iranian air defense, considering also the fact that there are two parallel armies and one is not coordinated with the other.
          4. Kelwin
            Kelwin April 27 2021 02: 55
            0
            Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko
            And what exactly did the American people get confused?

            Yes, they all mixed up. Somehow they managed to identify a civilian cow as F14, it is nirazu not to be surprised at someone's, it does not respond to friend or foe and to requests on military frequencies. The flight profile is also not a reason to think with your head ... although what I mean, there were mattresses in the CIC, they are not supposed to think about it, right?
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              1. Kelwin
                Kelwin April 27 2021 18: 44
                0
                Tatyana, no one shot down the 17th, neither these nor these, there was no anti-aircraft missile. There was a blast on board, and not one. We will not argue, because tired, just fix this moment and when the truth comes up, and it comes up, then remember
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                  1. Kelwin
                    Kelwin April 27 2021 20: 02
                    +1
                    And what are the conclusions, it says "If it was an anti-aircraft missile, it could only have been 9M38. "In other words, AA does not claim that there was a missile. Why are they hiding in the Kremlin, I don’t know, they don’t report, but I know that at the same time cut all communications and break into three parts the glider of the 777th on the echelon it is possible only by blowing up the fixings on board. And not just anywhere, but in strictly defined places. And a rocket is bullshit ...
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                      1. Kelwin
                        Kelwin April 28 2021 13: 28
                        +1
                        It depends on what you call bullshit, strictly speaking no one said anything specifically. And then, it’s like geopolitics, there are rules of the game.
              2. Cossack 471
                Cossack 471 April 27 2021 21: 14
                +1
                Girkin could simply "write down" the next victory at his own expense. And the fact that the Boeing was shot down by the militia is very doubtful And they are based on that. that when the APU shot down a Russian Tu-154 over the Black Sea. then the Americans two hours later showed a photo of the rocket's flight and said who shot down the same story with our other plane. which was blown up by terrorists over the Sinai Peninsula. Rescuers have not yet reached the crash site. and the mattresses already said that it was a terrorist attack and showed a photo from the crash site
                And only with Boeing over Donbass they have been talking for seven years. that there are documents exposing Russia But they are so secret. that it is impossible to present them
                Do not tell me. what is so secret in the Donetsk network?
                Just if you admit it. and show that the plane was shot down by PPOshniki of Ukraine. then you will have to admit the fact of nonsense and lift sanctions from Russia And this is simply impossible!
                1. tatiana korzhenko
                  tatiana korzhenko April 27 2021 21: 36
                  0
                  Air defense men? Exactly? And not the SU-25?
      2. Avior
        Avior April 26 2021 17: 47
        +5
        He also flew strictly in the other direction - from the country
      3. frruc
        frruc April 26 2021 18: 12
        +13
        Javad Zarif within three days after the disaster denied Tehran's involvement in it and named technical reasons as a working version ... The New York Times reported this

        And this latrine-Times did not report how the ukronedoumki were knocked down on October 4, 2001. airliner Tu-154M of Siberia Airlines performed the planned SBI flight 1812 along the Tel Aviv-Novosibirsk route. Why do they keep quiet about it? Every time I need to talk about it remind and drive your face on the washboard. hi
        1. Kaman
          Kaman April 27 2021 08: 02
          -4
          So these are claims to the developers of the S-200. On their account, first the TU-154M, and then the IL-20.
          1. frruc
            frruc April 27 2021 11: 05
            +1
            No, potheads have a bunch of shit instead of brains.
        2. tatiana korzhenko
          tatiana korzhenko April 27 2021 17: 36
          +1
          By the way, at that time these were joint exercises of "Kaklov" and "Non-Kaklov". So, in fact, Russia also took part in this.
          1. frruc
            frruc April 27 2021 18: 23
            0
            Again, you are wrong, dear. At that very time, I had to serve in the Air Defense Forces at the command post of the North Caucasus region and I saw everything that is said in the on-line. The exercises were conducted by the Air Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Crimea at Cape Opuk. Even at this time, we had a direct connection with the command post of the Ukrainian Armed Forces brigade in Belbek. Everything else is known, I will not repeat myself. This is how it is, and do not bleat lies.
          2. Cossack 471
            Cossack 471 April 27 2021 21: 27
            0
            Russia did not take part in the exercises of the PPO of Ukraine. My brother-in-law (now deceased) took part in these exercises on the S-125 air defense system. The instructors were their own. Ukrainian authorities gave them permission to shoot at the army USP near Kiev. where they fought off a training raid and passed all the tests
    2. Babermetis
      Babermetis April 26 2021 22: 37
      -5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I don't know ... All these conspiracy theories. Audio recording in our age is a piece of cake. And what difference does that make, even if it is genuine? The plane was shot down, people died, they admitted their guilt.
      Sorry for the people.

      Oh ... let's cry and stop thinking! Should I give you a drink?
  2. ANB
    ANB April 26 2021 17: 33
    +6
    The giraffe is so long. Until it comes to him.
    Did you get infected from the Czechs?
    Iran has long admitted guilt and willingness to pay compensation.
    Unlike Ukraine.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 26 2021 18: 52
      +6
      Quote: ANB
      The giraffe is so long. Until it comes to him.
      Did you get infected from the Czechs?
      Iran has long admitted guilt and willingness to pay compensation.
      Unlike Ukraine.

      This, a signal to the vassals, is another planned US info-attack on Iran.
      1. Babermetis
        Babermetis April 26 2021 22: 34
        -3
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: ANB
        The giraffe is so long. Until it comes to him.
        Did you get infected from the Czechs?
        Iran has long admitted guilt and willingness to pay compensation.
        Unlike Ukraine.

        This, a signal to the vassals, is another planned US info-attack on Iran.


        How long, days, has passed before the decision is made?
        1. Terenin
          Terenin April 26 2021 23: 11
          +2
          Quote: Babermetis
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: ANB
          The giraffe is so long. Until it comes to him.
          Did you get infected from the Czechs?
          Iran has long admitted guilt and willingness to pay compensation.
          Unlike Ukraine.

          This, a signal to the vassals, is another planned US info-attack on Iran.


          How long, days, has passed before the decision is made?

          Don't you know that the United States keeps any international issue and situation on the brink of making a decision !? belay
  3. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr April 26 2021 17: 34
    +6
    The destruction of a Ukrainian-owned Boeing 737 passenger plane is understandably shocking to the Iranians. It took time to develop a version of what happened or an explanation for the injured party.
  4. nnm
    nnm April 26 2021 17: 38
    +11
    The same techniques, methods ... and it does not matter whether it is true or not, whether there is evidence or not, all the world's leading media belong to the United States / Britain, which means that they WILL MAKE any lie true in the minds of billions of people.
    That is why they say that whoever owns information owns the world.
    Therefore, they are fighting so hard with those who carry a different point of view, like the same RT. But judging by the popularity of RT, there is a huge demand for information "from the other side".
    1. xorek
      xorek April 26 2021 17: 55
      +2
      Quote: nnm
      The same techniques, methods ... and it doesn't matter if it's true or not, it doesn't matter if there is evidence or not - all the world's leading media belong to the United States / Britain,

      Everything is exactly like that, they started to negative you, they are angry at the truth .. hi
  5. Alexander Betonkin
    Alexander Betonkin April 26 2021 17: 45
    +7
    Iran may have hidden it at first. But then he explained that there was a military facility nearby. And Ukraine does not want to admit to the downed plane. And apologize. Although what am I talking about?
    1. Babermetis
      Babermetis April 26 2021 22: 32
      -4
      Quote: Alexander Betonkin
      Iran may have hidden it at first. But then he explained that there was a military facility nearby. And Ukraine does not want to admit to the downed plane. And apologize. Although what am I talking about?


      And what are you talking about, comrade?
  6. xorek
    xorek April 26 2021 17: 50
    0
    The US press also claims that the Quds commander allegedly acted in concert with Russia and tried to thwart the nuclear deal.

    Well, we know where the ears are sticking out .. Again they dragged Russia negative
    Iran is too tough for you while Russia is in Syria! Invent what you want vying with each other, pouring mud and fakes .. Russia will not leave the BV and we will support Iran in any development of the situation.
    1. Asad
      Asad April 27 2021 06: 27
      0
      Well, Iran, too, so-so ,,, an ally ,,! If not for Russia, then Iran would have captured all of Syria along with the Basmachi.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 27 2021 16: 15
        -1
        Quote: ASAD
        Well, Iran, too, so-so ,,, an ally ,,! If not for Russia, then Iran would have captured all of Syria along with the Basmachi.

        If it were not for Russia, then Iran would have turned into Iraq .. This is 100%! And Syria would have ceased to exist altogether hi
  7. International Observer
    International Observer April 26 2021 17: 50
    +2
    US press: Iran initially concealed the truth about the downed Ukrainian Boeing ...

    Yes, Iran is now the enemy of the United States forever ... shot down a Boeing, and even a Ukrainian one. ... I would like to add a smiley face with a smile, but before my eyes there are innocently dead people ... and hypocritical creatures, including those from the United States, who will now make themselves happy on someone else's grief. ... It would be better if it was a military plane under the control of the "heroes" of the ATO and the passengers to be, too, the same "heroic".
  8. prior
    prior April 26 2021 18: 11
    +6
    Americans, as always, are true to themselves. Another attempt to shift their own blame onto others.
    It was the Americans who brought the situation to hysteria at that moment by committing a terrorist act on the territory of Iran (the murder of Suleimani). Iran lived in anticipation of an air raid. Ukrainian Boeing was at the wrong time, in the wrong place.
    Similarly, Russia is accused of the conflict in the Donbass.
    But the conflict in Donbass and the annexation of Crimea is the result of direct US interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine, in organizing and sponsoring the Ukrainian Maidan, and in fact a "color" coup d'etat.
    Gentlemen. You crossed all the "red lines" in Iran and Ukraine.
    So Ukraine should "thank" its American "friends" for the downed Boeing.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 April 26 2021 19: 52
      +1
      the Americans in Sumeria also, to some extent, found themselves in the right time and place. If it were not for the mediocre life of our ambassadors on the beaches and casinos of the Sumeria, as well as EBN and SB in general, then everything could have been different.
  9. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 26 2021 18: 45
    +4
    Chubaty themselves, piled up planes for 100 years, forward. They just wash the toilets and keep quiet.
    1. xorek
      xorek April 26 2021 19: 22
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Chubaty themselves, piled up planes for 100 years, forward. They just wash the toilets and keep quiet.

      laughing good This is to the point, if you remember ..
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima April 26 2021 21: 33
        0
        laughing good This is to the point, if you remember ..

        Well, Russia is not allowed, but we did so a little bit of ukroletunov in due time) True, we took revenge for ours ...
  10. evgen1221
    evgen1221 April 26 2021 19: 49
    +2
    And the money has already been paid, if not, then the article is clearly at the request of the Sumerians to speed up the transfer of money, otherwise you are reluctant to spend your pennies on new Gucci trousers (I strongly doubt that at least something will reach the relatives of the victims).
  11. iouris
    iouris April 26 2021 19: 51
    +1
    What is the difference between what Iran paid to Ukraine and Ukraine to the victims (in USD)?
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos April 26 2021 21: 51
      0
      Quote: iouris
      What is the difference between what Iran paid to Ukraine and Ukraine to the victims (in USD)?

      By the way, I didn’t find that I had already paid. We collected / budgeted / payments from next year / compensation from insurers, etc. But I did not find a clear claim that payments were made.
      There is little news this year.
      UIA decided to compensate the families of the plane's crew who died in this tragedy. So the Ukrainian airline paid the relatives of the Ukrainians.
  12. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General April 26 2021 22: 28
    +1
    A muddy story. Although it is a pity for the peaceful.
  13. Babermetis
    Babermetis April 26 2021 22: 29
    0
    "Off the feet of an amazing article" ... Where is the original, the author, your legs!?!
  14. Babermetis
    Babermetis April 26 2021 22: 31
    0
    Quote: prior
    Americans, as always, are true to themselves. Another attempt to shift their own blame onto others.
    It was the Americans who brought the situation to hysteria at that moment by committing a terrorist act on the territory of Iran (the murder of Suleimani). Iran lived in anticipation of an air raid. Ukrainian Boeing was at the wrong time, in the wrong place.
    Similarly, Russia is accused of the conflict in the Donbass.
    But the conflict in Donbass and the annexation of Crimea is the result of direct US interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine, in organizing and sponsoring the Ukrainian Maidan, and in fact a "color" coup d'etat.
    Gentlemen. You crossed all the "red lines" in Iran and Ukraine.
    So Ukraine should "thank" its American "friends" for the downed Boeing.


    Soleimani was killed in Iraq.
  15. Babermetis
    Babermetis April 26 2021 22: 47
    -2
    Write and create information field faster. Until the Israelites came running. They don't even have links to the greginal article, they just feel it.
    1. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 April 27 2021 06: 37
      +1
      Quote: Babermetis
      Write and create information field faster. Until the Israelites came running. They don't even have links to the greginal article, they just feel it.

      Don't be afraid. we won't cut you painfully. Just a chick and that's it.
      1. Babermetis
        Babermetis April 27 2021 08: 18
        0
        Quote: andreykolesov123
        Quote: Babermetis
        Write and create information field faster. Until the Israelites came running. They don't even have links to the greginal article, they just feel it.

        Don't be afraid. we won't cut you painfully.
        Just a chick and that's it.


        See for yourself do not cut yourself.
  16. bald
    bald April 27 2021 01: 30
    0
    Sadly, I apologize for the victims. And in fact, you don't have to think about the exclusivity of the states, in fact - the states, what a fucking bunch of people.
  17. andreykolesov123
    andreykolesov123 April 27 2021 06: 33
    +1
    America is to blame, it was she who wanted to cover her cruise missiles with a Ukrainian liner. As in the case of the IL, Israel covered its aircraft at the base with a Russian aircraft. Neither the Syrian nor the Iranian air defense personnel are to blame. They are not Zionists or Bandera.
  18. DmSol
    DmSol April 27 2021 11: 07
    0
    And if you understand a little about the situation with the silt, it will become clear that the f-16 il-20 could not hide behind, and the blame was completely on the Syrian air defense crew, well, and a little more jamb in the issue of our interaction with the Syrians.
    1. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 April 27 2021 12: 03
      +1
      Quote: DmSol
      And if you understand a little about the situation with the silt, it will become clear that the f-16 il-20 could not hide behind, and the blame was completely on the Syrian air defense crew, well, and a little more jamb in the issue of our interaction with the Syrians.

      And why figure it out. The Ministry of Defense announced the version: ILom covered themselves with a shield, so it was so. and figs that the SAM rocket explodes outside the aircraft and its shrapnel pierces the duralumin of the hull like cardboard. If an Israeli hawk had taken cover from the IL, it would have definitely been shot down with it. It's just that the one who came up with this version of the Ministry of Defense was some land general who heard the ringing, but could not understand the action of the SAM and MANPADS missiles. But the MO does not care about such minor inconsistencies.