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Kravchuk: Russia itself made Ukraine an enemy

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The chairman of the Ukrainian delegation to the Trilateral Contact Group, who earlier announced his refusal to use the Minsk platform for negotiations, made another statement on the current situation. And again, we are primarily talking about checking the combat readiness of the Russian troops.


According to Leonid Kravchuk, Russia "brought troops to the borders of Ukraine in order to intimidate Ukraine, so that we would become more compliant."

Kravchuk:

Today Ukraine is an enemy for Russia. But Russia itself has made Ukraine such an enemy.

According to Kravchuk, Kiev "still intends to resolve the situation through political and diplomatic means." At the same time, the first Ukrainian president added that "Ukrainians are ready to defend the country in any way."

We will remind that earlier Kravchuk on the air of one of the Ukrainian TV channels demonstrated the gun he had, with which he was “ready to go to the defense of Ukraine”, “to shoot back from the balcony”.

Meanwhile, alarming messages are coming back from Donbass. Ukrainian troops continued shelling the outskirts of Donetsk and Horlivka. The previous evening, the shelling was carried out using 120-mm mortars. At about 18:00, Ukrainian units fired in a southern direction - at the positions of the People's Militia of the DPR. Leonid Kravchuk preferred not to talk about this in an interview.
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  1. Olgovich
    Olgovich April 26 2021 07: 11
    +17
    Ukraine is anti-Russia from the beginning: from a part of Russia they made not Russia.

    And all these GUAMs and consistent aspirations to the West and NATO were until 2014
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 26 2021 07: 17
      +22
      Quote: Olgovich
      Ukraine is anti-Russia from the very beginning:

      Initially, "Ukraine" is the BORDER.
      We will remind that earlier Kravchuk on the air of one of the Ukrainian TV channels demonstrated the gun he had, with which he was “ready to go to the defense of Ukraine”, “to shoot back from the balcony”.
      By the way, it's a VERY interesting story. In the hands of Kravchuk was one of the guns from the collection of Goering Goering - Nazi number 2 in Germany. And it turns out that he is going to defend himself from Russia with a "Nazi gun"
      1. For example
        For example April 26 2021 07: 24
        -2
        Quote: svp67
        Initially, "Ukraine" is the BORDER.

        Is this how you need to pervert your mind so that a word can transform an edge into a border? request

        We have an administrative-territorial unit well of Russia - the edge.

        Krasnodar, Stavropol, etc.

        ukraina of the same field is a berry.


        And Ukraine is not an enemy of Russia, because it is part of it.

        But all sorts of Kravchuk and their propagandists are ghouls. And the ghoul has always been evil.
        The count is crying for such
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 26 2021 07: 29
          +9
          Quote: For example
          ukraina of the same field is a berry.

          And what about the "Kola Ukraine" and also with the multiple "Ukrainians" on the old maps of Russia?
          the name "Ukraine" comes from the Old Russian word "Ukraine" (ѹkraina, v'kraina).
          That is, "OGRAINA", but most often it was used precisely as "borderland".
          Quote: For example
          And Ukraine is not an enemy of Russia, because it is part of it.

          ????? Sorry, but there are many questions. Lviv residents will not agree with you, as well as Transcarpathians ...
          Quote: For example
          We have an administrative-territorial unit well of Russia - the edge.

          There was such a Polish historian Samuel Grądzki in the 17th century. Born around 1620, died in 1678. Contemporary of Boplan and a direct participant in the Polish-Cossack wars against Bohdan Khmelnytsky.
          What did he write about Ukraine in his History of the Cossack-Polish War?

          I quote literally:
          “Margo enim polonice kray; inde Ukrajna, quasi provincia ad fines regni posita "

          Which translates from Latin: "Latin margo (border, frontier) in Polish kraj, hence Ukraine is like a region located at the edge of the (Polish) kingdom", i.e. to simplify: Ukraine = outskirts. Outskirts, in this case, belonging to Poland,
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha April 26 2021 07: 35
            +7
            Today Ukraine is an enemy for Russia. But Russia itself has made Ukraine such an enemy.

            And here you are lying, son of a bitch, you and the Nazis like you, in a bond with the oligarchs, have done with the country what it has become now
            1. frruc
              frruc April 26 2021 12: 39
              0
              According to Leonid Kravchuk, Russia “brought troops to the borders of Ukraine in order to intimidate Ukraine,

              Starper Kravchuk with a Berdan gun will sort out the situation.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov April 27 2021 16: 32
                +2
                He lies and lies, the old Bandera henchman Kravchuk is still breaking!
          2. Overlock
            Overlock April 26 2021 10: 36
            -1
            Quote: svp67
            Ukraine = outskirts. Outskirts, in this case, belonging to Poland,

            And if you remember Bohdan Khmelnytsky, who came from gentry of the Khmelnytsky family and studied at the Jesuit collegium in Lviv (1609/10 - 1615/16) (according to another version - in the Jesuit collegium in Yaroslavl-Galitsky (now Yaroslav, Poland)).
            And they became anti-Pole after his personal farm was destroyed
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 26 2021 09: 16
        -3
        Quote: svp67

        Initially "уkraina "this is the BORDER.

        unconditionally.

        А УKraina -antiRussia. For when a part is isolated from a single whole, this part automatically becomes the antagonism of the whole: it has no other meaning.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin April 26 2021 07: 33
      +6
      According to Leonid Kravchuk, ...
      After any situation, Kravchuk makes the right conclusions: whatever they step on the tail, they need to wag.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 26 2021 07: 44
      +6
      Quote: Olgovich
      Ukraine is anti-Russia from the beginning: from a part of Russia they made not Russia.

      Not having time to become a state, Ukraine itself designated Russia as an enemy. Well, and how the Bandera government can become a friend of Russia.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 26 2021 07: 57
        +9
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Not having time to become a state, Ukraine itself designated Russia as an enemy. Well, and how the Bandera government can become a friend of Russia.


        They are elementary and suicidal ignore three main and fundamental "NOT"attributed to the pen of Bismarck -

        NOT fight the Russians in winter, NOT to fight with Russia on its territory, NOT never fight with Russia...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 26 2021 08: 05
          -1
          Quote: Insurgent
          DO NOT fight the Russians in winter, DO NOT fight with Russia on its territory, DO NOT fight with Russia at all ..

          Hitler forgot that too, but what came of it?
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 26 2021 08: 11
            +6
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Hitler forgot that too, but what came of it?

            Hitler was an arrogant person, and the authority of Otto von Leopold von Bismarck Schönhausen is obvious - as a practitioner and theorist who knows Russia not by hearsay (served as Ambassador of Prussia at the court of Emperor Alexander II in St. Petersburg) ignored ...
            For which Germany and the German people have paid.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 10: 43
          -1
          Quote: Insurgent
          DO NOT fight the Russians in winter, DO NOT fight with Russia on its territory, DO NOT fight Russia at all ...

          Could you give a source?
          Literally Bismarck said: "What will this long, protruding far ahead strip of land between the sea and Poland bring us, without any depth - nothing that we will receive only in exchange for the eternal hostility of Russia?"
          “A war against Russia, even a victorious one, will be (...) an undesirable event,” Bismarck wrote in January 1881 to the German ambassador in Vienna. "This is a dangerous war, besides a war that does not have an acceptable goal for us."
      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 26 2021 10: 38
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Not having time to become a state, Ukraine itself designated Russia as an enemy. Well, and how the Bandera government can become a friend of Russia.

        Was there a Bandera government in Ukraine in 1991? - It was not. But what
        was the only question asked to the SA officer who was taking the Ukrainian oath? In 1991!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 26 2021 11: 49
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          Was there a Bandera government in Ukraine in 1991? - It was not. But what
          was the only question asked to the SA officer who was taking the Ukrainian oath? In 1991!

          I don’t know about the SA, but in the SS division "Galitsien" they swore an oath to Hitler.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 26 2021 11: 56
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            I don't know about SA

            I answer: "will you fight with Russia?" Read an interview on this subject with at least T. Apakidze
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 26 2021 12: 16
              +1
              Quote: Overlock
              I answer: "will you fight with Russia?" Read an interview on this subject with at least T. Apakidze

              Of course, those who went to the Armed Forces of Ukraine responded positively.
              1. Gardener91
                Gardener91 April 27 2021 10: 22
                +2
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Of course, those who went to the Armed Forces of Ukraine responded positively.

                The oath was taken by everyone everywhere in factories and factories. The main question was the need to fight with Russia. And the beginnings of the revival of nationalism clearly began to be seen from 1987, when a UNAUNSO cell was created in each regional center, then the right sector, and so on.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine April 27 2021 10: 40
                  0
                  Quote: Gardener91
                  And the beginnings of the revival of nationalism clearly began to be seen from 1987, when a UNAUNSO cell was created in each regional center, then the right sector, and so on.

                  I guessed about it, but did not know. Not all tentacles were torn off from the hydra, revived.
                  1. Gardener91
                    Gardener91 April 27 2021 10: 45
                    +2
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    I guessed about it, but did not know.

                    The hydra was revived by the spivvitchizniki from beyond the hillock, which had infiltrated the management structures of the underdit. It is regrettable that they now have the support of their financial moneybags living in the US and Europe.
        2. vladimirvn
          vladimirvn April 26 2021 12: 34
          +3
          Quote: Overlock
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Not having time to become a state, Ukraine itself designated Russia as an enemy. Well, and how the Bandera government can become a friend of Russia.

          Was there a Bandera government in Ukraine in 1991? - It was not. But what
          was the only question asked to the SA officer who was taking the Ukrainian oath? In 1991!

          They asked if you were ready to shoot the Russians ?!
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 26 2021 18: 10
            +3
            Quote: vladimirvn
            They asked if you were ready to shoot the Russians ?!

            Right
    4. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis April 26 2021 08: 04
      +3
      Quote: Olgovich
      Ukraine is anti-Russia from the beginning: from a part of Russia they made not Russia.

      And all these GUAMs and consistent aspirations to the West and NATO were until 2014

      It was this comrade-pan who made Ukraine an enemy to the Russian people! He began the construction of a state hostile to the Russian .. All these ukro sanctified (educational structures), the priority of one language over another, one culture over another, pitting one part of the people against another, the promotion of the Western Galicians to the authorities of Ukraine .. Now he clucks in a typical Western style (tse you are to blame!) accusing Russia of hostility .. Yeltsin was waiting for his accomplice in the collapse of a powerful country! It's time for Pan Kravchuk to go to the boiling resin boiler!
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 26 2021 10: 44
        -2
        Quote: 30 vis
        It was this comrade -pan who made Ukraine an enemy to the Russian people

        One? He took and made 50 million enemies? Are you exaggerating the possibilities of this hypocrite?
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis April 26 2021 13: 03
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          Quote: 30 vis
          It was this comrade -pan who made Ukraine an enemy to the Russian people

          One? He took and made 50 million enemies? Are you exaggerating the possibilities of this hypocrite?
          You have a sophisticated vision of the subject. Peculiar .. Naturally not one. In the same way that Gorbachev was not the only one to destroy the USSR.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 26 2021 18: 27
            -1
            Quote: 30 vis
            You have a sophisticated vision of the subject

            What's your message?
            Quote: 30 vis
            It was this comrade-pan who made Ukraine an enemy to the Russian people!

            You put all the blame on Kravchuk, why are you surprised by the question?
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis April 26 2021 19: 33
              0
              A counter question - did Lenin personally make the October Socialist Revolution? I know that I will get a question for an answer ... I'll try to clarify .. The leader, and in this case Pan Kravchuk is the person, the emblem, those who sign collegial decisions, take responsibility for decisions. So comrade -pan Kravchuk is guilty of Kravchik. He is the president.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock April 26 2021 20: 28
                -1
                Quote: 30 vis
                Lenin made the October Socialist Revolution?

                The organizers were V. I. Lenin, L. D. Trotsky, J. M. Sverdlov, V. A. Antonov-Ovseenko, P. E. Dybenko and others. The immediate leadership of the seizure of power was carried out by the Military Revolutionary Committee of the Petrograd Soviet, which also included the Left SRs.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 27 2021 10: 46
          -1
          Quote: Overlock
          Quote: 30 vis
          It was this comrade -pan who made Ukraine an enemy to the Russian people

          One? He took and made 50 million enemies? Are you exaggerating the possibilities of this hypocrite?

          Don't you believe that? And I believe, just as Hitler made a fascist state out of Germany, so Kravchuk (and here he is not a hypocrite) surrendered the same state from Ukraine.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 27 2021 11: 16
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            And I believe, just like Hitler made a fascist state out of Germany

            How long has Hitler been in power? From 1933 to 45. He had 6 years to form a nation.
            Kravchuk was in power from 1991 to 1994. - 3 years! And that's all ... Since 1994, the "adored and dear" Kuchma has become the president!

            I hope you find out?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 27 2021 11: 28
              -1
              Quote: Overlock
              Kravchuk was in power from 1991 to 1994. - 3 years! And that's all ... Since 1994, the "adored and dear" Kuchma has become the president!

              I remember not forgetting. For me, Kravchuk is like everyone else. They did not lead to good.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock April 27 2021 11: 45
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                For me, Kravchuk is like everyone else. They did not lead to good.

                The question is in the personalities!
                Quote: tihonmarine
                also Kravchuk (and here he is not a hypocrite) surrendered the same state from Ukraine.
    5. Overlock
      Overlock April 26 2021 10: 30
      +4
      Quote: Olgovich
      Ukraine is anti-Russia from the beginning: from a part of Russia they made not Russia.

      Do you want to say that 500 thousand Ukrainian partisans and 7 million Ukrainians who fought in the ranks of the Red Army are "anti-Russia from the very beginning"? Are you not self-confident in saying so? And how then is this to be understood: out of the 11 626 heroes of the USSR who received the title of Hero during the Great Patriotic War, there were: Russians - 7 998 people, Ukrainians - 2 021 people ....?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 26 2021 11: 48
        0
        Quote: Overlock
        Do you want to say that 500 thousand Ukrainian partisans and 7 million Ukrainians who fought in the ranks of the Red Army are "anti-Russia from the very beginning"?

        want to say that tens of millions, for example, Poles, Yugoslavs, Greeks, British and others, who also fought against Hitler, are ... originally for Russia? Aren't you self-confident asserting that to yourself?

        And anti-Russia is that Russians in Ukraine were persuaded through violent Ukrainization that they were non-Russians. Now explain, for what kind of Russia, this was done and how Russia was this .... strengthened and grew.

        At the same time, look out the window and see WHERE Russian Novorossia is located and who put it in there and that they do with her, brought up in Ukrainian. Or did they all suddenly appear ... after 91? Did the Kravchuk fall from Mars in 91m?
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 12: 01
          +3
          Quote: Olgovich
          want to say that tens of millions, for example, Poles, Yugoslavs, Greeks, British and others, who also fought against Hitler, are ... originally for Russia? Aren't you self-confident asserting that to yourself?

          Do you find yourself overconfident when declaring
          Quote: Olgovich
          Ukraine is anti-Russia from the very beginning

          It is you, not me, who betray the Ukrainians who fought on the side of the Red Army with your opuses.
          Quote: Olgovich
          anti-Russia is that Russians in Ukraine were convinced through violent Ukrainizations that they are not Russians

          Then add who did it!
          In April 1923, the XII Congress of the RCP (b) declared indigenization as the official course of the party on the national question. In July - August 1923, two decrees were issued in the Ukrainian SSR, one of which stipulated that newcomers to the civil service must study the Ukrainian language within 6 months, and those who are already in the civil service - within 1 year. Further - you will read it yourself, not small.
          Quote: Olgovich
          At the same time, look out the window and see WHERE Russian Novorossia is located and who put it there and what they do with it, brought up in Ukrainians.

          Excellent! Who put Novorossia in there? AUTHOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich April 26 2021 12: 59
            +1
            Do you find yourself overconfident by stating:
            Quote: Overlock
            Do you find yourself overconfident when declaring
            Quote: Olgovich
            Ukraine is anti-Russia from the very beginning

            ?
            Quote: Overlock
            It is you, not me, who betray the Ukrainians with your opuses.

            it is you who betray the Russians, converted into "Ukrainians". And at the same time, common sense too betrayed lol
            Quote: Overlock
            Then add who did it!
            In April 1923, the XII Congress of the RCP (b) declared indigenization the official course. Further - you will read it yourself, not small.

            and who does not know, rather big?
            Quote: Overlock
            Excellent! Who put Novorossia in there? AUTHOR!

            not small, read it yourself.
      2. Mitroha
        Mitroha April 26 2021 12: 55
        0
        Quote: Overlock
        Quote: Olgovich
        Ukraine is anti-Russia from the beginning: from a part of Russia they made not Russia.

        Do you want to say that 500 thousand Ukrainian partisans and 7 million Ukrainians who fought in the ranks of the Red Army are "anti-Russia from the very beginning"? Are you not self-confident in saying so? And how then is this to be understood: out of the 11 626 heroes of the USSR who received the title of Hero during the Great Patriotic War, there were: Russians - 7 998 people, Ukrainians - 2 021 people ....?

        And then there was Russia? There was a Soviet people, and these are completely different people
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 18: 30
          -1
          Quote: Mitroha
          There was a Soviet people, and these are completely different people

          You are right, but the gentleman said that Ukraine was originally anti-Russian. At the same time, the Ukrainian SSR was formed on December 25, 1917. on June 22, 1941 Ukraine was
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha April 26 2021 18: 54
            0
            The Ukrainian SSR and Ukraine, the essence is completely different definitions. On June 22, 1941 there was the Ukrainian SSR, after 1991. was Ukraine. And as I understand it, your opponent meant exactly Ukraine after 1991.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 26 2021 20: 25
              -1
              Quote: Mitroha
              The Ukrainian SSR and Ukraine, the essence is completely different definitions.

              What's on the forehead, what's on the forehead
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine April 27 2021 11: 31
                -1
                Quote: Overlock
                What's on the forehead, what's on the forehead

                So it turns out there was one Soviet people, but now "head-on, head-on."
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 27 2021 10: 54
        -1
        Quote: Overlock
        Do you want to say that 500 thousand Ukrainian partisans and 7 million Ukrainians who fought in the ranks of the Red Army are "anti-Russia from the very beginning"?

        You have forgotten that these were Soviet people, just like us before 1991. But those people who defeated fascism 7,5 million of them have long been gone, and instead of them came people born after 1991, and they will no longer be heroes like their fathers and grandfathers.
        And I do not know which side of the barricades they will be, but we will not sit in the same trench.
  2. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 26 2021 07: 13
    +2
    Test. But Ukraine itself made Russia its enemy. But Russia has always had enough enemies, it would be an honor!
  3. Model101
    Model101 April 26 2021 07: 13
    +1
    Oh, a birch tree under the window is crying for you ... Bandera ..
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 26 2021 07: 48
      +3
      Quote: Model101
      Oh, a birch tree under the window is crying for you ... Bandera ..

      And the aspen, too, bursts into bitter tears, according to the "good-looking lad".
  4. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn April 26 2021 07: 14
    +3
    Old senile. negative
  5. Dynamic systems
    Dynamic systems April 26 2021 07: 15
    +1
    One more standup will not calm down!
  6. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 26 2021 07: 17
    +8
    If there is no water in the tap, it is immediately clear how much ...
    If the main enemy is Russia, you are most likely a Nazi ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 26 2021 07: 37
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      If the main enemy is Russia, you most likely Nazi...

      Already exactly - Kuchma is a Nazi, after the prevailing puzzle with Goering's gun
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 26 2021 10: 46
        +2
        Quote: Terenin
        Already for sure - Kuchma is a Nazi, after the prevailing puzzle with Goering's gun

        And if the gun was TOZ-106, would it be a Russian? laughing
        1. Terenin
          Terenin April 26 2021 11: 39
          +2
          Quote: Overlock
          Quote: Terenin
          Already for sure - Kuchma is a Nazi, after the prevailing puzzle with Goering's gun

          And if the gun was TOZ-106, would it be a Russian? laughing

          To the political color, communist-Bandera Kravchuk, the brands of weapons have nothing to do No.
  7. Semyonich from the Urals
    Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 07: 19
    -5
    Well ... in many ways he's not so wrong ...
    Russia itself put trump cards into the hands of anti-Russian forces in Ukraine
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 26 2021 07: 21
      +3
      Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
      WARP NO MOGONM OV

      What? :)))
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 26 2021 07: 54
        +1
        The colleague is referring to the apparently complete failure of Russian diplomacy and policy in relation to the former Ukrainian SSR. It was a place for "downed pilots", bastard officials. I mean Russian organizations and diplomatic missions.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 26 2021 08: 01
          +2
          Here - I agree, of course
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 10: 47
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          It was a place for "downed pilots", bastard officials. I mean Russian organizations and diplomatic missions.

          What did not prevent them from jointly sawing the loot
    2. Terenin
      Terenin April 26 2021 07: 41
      +2
      Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
      In many ways, he's not so wrong ..

      These prefixes
      Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
      not so
      extra yes
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 26 2021 07: 52
      +2
      Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
      Russia itself put trump cards into the hands of anti-Russian forces in Ukraine

      Something unlikely that Russia put the Banderaites on power, led by Kravchuk, a representative of the OUN. It all started in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, immediately after the collapse of the USSR.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 26 2021 10: 49
        +3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Something unlikely that Russia put the Banderaites on power, led by Kravchuk, a representative of the OUN.

        And who is interested, has poured more than 300 billion "green" into Ukraine? How did the current Ukrainian oligarchs make their fortune? - On sunflowers?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 26 2021 11: 51
          0
          Quote: Overlock
          How did the current Ukrainian oligarchs make their fortune? - On sunflowers?

          Lard was sold in bazaars and vodka with dust.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 26 2021 11: 54
            +4
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Lard was sold in bazaars and vodka with dust.

            The answer is not counted, you will not become an oligarch in the bazaars
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 26 2021 11: 56
              0
              Quote: Overlock
              The answer is not counted, you will not become an oligarch in the bazaars

              I remember there was such an oligarch Gusinsky, he said that "... he started with waffle sticks, and then off you go!"
    4. Clear
      Clear April 26 2021 08: 56
      +8
      Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
      Well ... in many ways he's not so wrong ...
      Russia itself put trump cards into the hands of anti-Russian forces in Ukraine

      Let's sprinkle ashes on our heads now. You don't know much about Ukrainian metal.

      1. Flashpoint
        Flashpoint April 26 2021 10: 48
        +1
        Quote: Clear
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        Well ... in many ways he's not so wrong ...
        Russia itself put trump cards into the hands of anti-Russian forces in Ukraine

        Let's sprinkle ashes on our heads now. You don't know much about Ukrainian metal.


        Gorgeous noticed! love
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 26 2021 12: 05
          +3
          Quote: Flashpoint
          Gorgeous noticed!

          Add to this ...
      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 26 2021 10: 50
        +1
        Quote: Clear
        Let's sprinkle ashes on our heads now. You don't know much about Ukrainian metal.

        You don't know at all! That's why you don't understand!
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 26 2021 11: 09
          +4
          Quote: Overlock
          You don't know at all! That's why you don't understand!

          well, where to go to such a broad Ukrainian like you ..)) Today you have a solid monologue, no one wants to enter into a dialogue with you, this is probably because you are very smart.))
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 26 2021 12: 04
            -3
            Quote: Tank Hard
            You have a solid monologue today, no one wants to enter into a dialogue with you, this is probably because you are very smart.))

            You are not all or even half. You need to talk about what you know. This does not apply to you and you again run into rudeness. And I argue about what I know and not from the box.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny April 27 2021 15: 30
              +1
              Your thought is absolutely transparent - Russia is to blame for the troubles of Ukraine. Maybe it's enough to post your nonsense? The Ukrainians themselves are to blame, first of all, their elite, which for 30 years has not created nifiga, but only grabbed.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 26 2021 12: 01
        +3
        Quote: Clear
        Let's sprinkle ashes on our heads now. You don't know much about Ukrainian metal.

        And now VAZelina - "Get out!"
    5. Terenin
      Terenin April 26 2021 11: 44
      +4
      Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
      Russia itself put trump cards into the hands of anti-Russian forces in Ukraine

      I know about the trump cards, in the form of swelling at the expense of the RSFSR, into the post-Soviet republics.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 27 2021 10: 58
        0
        Quote: Terenin
        I know about the trump cards, in the form of swelling at the expense of the RSFSR, into the post-Soviet republics.

        No matter how much you feed the wolf, it still pulls into the forest.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin April 27 2021 16: 24
          +2
          Try not to feed.
  8. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 April 26 2021 07: 22
    +14
    Of course, etozh in Russia chanted about gilyak, knives, our youth galloped so as not to think that they were Ukrainians, etozh on the territory of RF formed "trains of friendship." And the Russians called Ukraine and disowned their kinship, the same politicians in Moscow dreamed of throwing a nuclear bomb on Ukraine, and Russian officials, one after another, stamped anti-Ukrainian laws and severed economic and cultural ties. It is convenient to transfer from a SICK HEAD to a healthy one.
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 07: 25
      -18%
      Well, those who chanted and galloped Russia and helped convince the rest of the people of Ukraine that the Russian Federation is an enemy ..
      The same is happening now with Belarus ..
      1. nnm
        nnm April 26 2021 07: 49
        +3
        Thank you for bringing up an important topic. And why do we correlate Kravchuk's words about Ukraine with the opinion of the people, and not the authorities? Yes, I understand that the brains are heavily crammed with Nazi propaganda, but even the latest polls show that more than 40% of Ukrainians have a positive attitude towards Russia. And these are the results of Ukrainian polls that have never been biased (sarcasm)? Then we must share the opinion of such Kravchuk and the opinion of the Ukrainian people.
        1. alien
          alien April 26 2021 09: 29
          +1
          Quote: nnm
          Then we must share the opinion of such Kravchuk and the opinion of the Ukrainian people.

          Yes, they should, and the Kravchuk's answer is:
          "The Armed Forces of Ukraine violated the ceasefire 45 times in a week, two people were killed, one was wounded
          “During the week, 45 violations of the termination regime were recorded.
          The enemy opened fire on the settlements of the Republic, using 152 and 122 mm artillery, mortars of 120 and 82 mm caliber, BMP armament, grenade launchers of various types, large-caliber machine guns and small arms ""
          https://dan-news.info/defence/vsu-za-nedelju-45-raz-narushili-peremirie-dva-cheloveka-pogibli-odin-ranen.html

          Quiet Ukrainian night.
          Transparent sky. Stars shine.
          Overcome your nap
          Doesn't want air. Tremble a little
          Silver poplar leaves.
          But strange dreams are dark
          In Mazepa's soul: the stars of the night,
          Like accusatory eyes,
          They are looking at him mockingly.
          And poplars, embarrassed in a row,
          Shaking my head softly
          Like judges, they whisper among themselves.
          And the summer, warm night is darkness
          It's stuffy like a black prison.

          Pushkin "Poltava"
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 10: 51
          -2
          Quote: nnm
          Yes, I understand that the brains are heavily crammed with Nazi propaganda, but even the latest polls show that more than 40% of Ukrainians have a positive attitude towards Russia.

          Somewhere like that! But 60% have a different attitude! But why it happened is an interesting question! By 1991, Ukraine was absolutely pro-Russian.
      2. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 April 26 2021 11: 31
        +2
        Semyonitch, what was Russia supposed to do ?! To close our eyes further, Yanukovych has been removed, whether Russia supports him or not, has the United States invested too much in this?
    2. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 07: 33
      -17%
      If the government of the Russian Federation in 13 year did not grab a stranglehold on Yanukovych, but declared that this was an internal affair of the Ukrainian people, then everything would have returned to normal ...
      But we decided that it was too difficult and it was better to snatch Crimea ..
      So much for the point of no return ..
      1. Terenin
        Terenin April 26 2021 07: 46
        +7
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        If the government of the Russian Federation in 13 year did not grab a stranglehold on Yanukovych,

        I would like to hear winked is Yanukovych worse than Poroshenko and Zelensky?
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 10: 53
          -4
          Quote: Terenin
          is Yanukovych worse than Poroshenko and Zelensky?

          Or is it better?
      2. Terenin
        Terenin April 26 2021 07: 51
        +9
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        But we decided that it was too difficult and it was better to snatch Crimea ..
        So much for the point of no return ..

        Think better what you will do with Bandera, until they have completely decided what to do with all of Ukraine, and the issue with Crimea was closed in 2014.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 10: 54
          -3
          Quote: Terenin
          Think better what you will do with the Bandera people, until they have completely decided what to do with the whole of Ukraine.

          Late, they have already thought of it. And the friend is right that
          Quote: nnm
          .... more than 40% of Ukrainians have a positive attitude towards Russia.

          But 60% are not. what you plan to do with 60% of the Ukrainian population?
          1. Terenin
            Terenin April 26 2021 11: 51
            +4
            Quote: Overlock
            What are you planning to do with 60% of the Ukrainian population?

            Nothing, No. if they like it, then let them continue to work for the EU.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 26 2021 11: 54
              -3
              Quote: Terenin
              Nothing,

              then why
              Quote: Terenin
              Think better what you will do with Bandera
              1. Terenin
                Terenin April 26 2021 13: 41
                +3
                Quote: Overlock
                Quote: Terenin
                Nothing,

                then why
                Quote: Terenin
                Think better what you will do with Bandera

                then why
                Quote: Overlock
                Late, they have already thought of it.
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock April 26 2021 18: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: Terenin

                  +1
                  Quote: Overlock
                  Quote: Terenin
                  Nothing,

                  then why
                  Quote: Terenin
                  Think better what you will do with Bandera

                  then why
                  Quote: Overlock
                  Late, they have already thought of it.

                  Then the Banderlog figured out what to do with Ukraine back in 1991. And today they no longer think about it
                  1. Terenin
                    Terenin April 26 2021 18: 41
                    +3
                    Quote: Overlock
                    Quote: Terenin

                    +1
                    Quote: Overlock
                    Quote: Terenin
                    Nothing,

                    then why
                    Quote: Terenin
                    Think better what you will do with Bandera

                    then why
                    Quote: Overlock
                    Late, they have already thought of it.

                    Then the Banderlog figured out what to do with Ukraine back in 1991. And today they no longer think about it

                    The Bandera and the Soros succeeded to figure out how to destroy the state, and then to do it successfully. And what's next?
                    And, then, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Crimea, LDNR, Karabakh ...
                    Already tired of all these small but proud peoples with nationalists in power.
      3. nnm
        nnm April 26 2021 07: 51
        +4
        And how did they grab hold of Yanukovych, tell us?
        What circles would it all return to? Roundabout with the ring line of "friendship trains" for the Crimea, Donbass? On the introduction of the anti-Russian policy declared on the same Maidan? Roundabout with NATO bases in Crimea and the Russian fleet expelled from there in 2017?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 26 2021 08: 03
          +4
          Quote: nnm
          What circles would it all return to? Roundabout with the ring line of "friendship trains" for the Crimea, Donbass?


          Well, we fought off the Bandera trains "hand-to-hand", but the tanks thrown by the junta to suppress the recalcitrant Donbass could not be stopped with our hands ...

          2/3 of our territory is under occupation.
      4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 26 2021 07: 52
        +3
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        If the government of the Russian Federation in 13 year did not grab a stranglehold on Yanukovych, but declared that this was an internal affair of the Ukrainian people, then everything would have returned to normal ...

        Under "own circles", as I understand it, you see the continuation of the anti-Russian domestic policy of Ukraine, by analogy with what happened under Yushchenko, the rejection of the customs union, the withdrawal of Russian forces from the Crimea to Novorossiysk, and so on and so forth?
        No thanks
        1. nnm
          nnm April 26 2021 07: 58
          +5
          Good morning, colleague. So they were even more cunning in their desires - they wanted to stay in the customs union, receiving preferences, and to sign an agreement with the EU. And when Russia told them that this would not work, when goods from Europe would go through Ukraine to the CU without duties, flooding our market and killing local producers, then they started shouting that we were forcing them to choose between the EU and the CU. Just as always, Ukraine wanted to eat a fish and couldn't ride a bicycle without a seat.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 26 2021 08: 24
            +6
            Quote: nnm
            So they were even more cunning in their desires - they wanted to stay in the customs union, receiving preferences, and to sign an agreement with the EU.

            It was like that :))))) Ukrainian foreign policy is something in general. I remember how they fought to buy gas from us at an "internal" rate (that is, for a penny - we are brothers!), But at the same time, we would pay for the transportation of this very gas across Ukraine for European users at European rates (and sho, the price is fair!).
            1. nnm
              nnm April 26 2021 08: 40
              +4
              Exactly! And what is their unauthorized and unpaid selection of transit gas under the cries of "my hands did not steal anything!"
              Brothers, one word wink
            2. Overlock
              Overlock April 26 2021 11: 33
              +3
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              I remember how they fought to buy gas from us at an "internal" rate (that is, for a penny - we are brothers!)

              So Belarus does the same
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx April 26 2021 08: 26
            +1
            Quote: nnm
            Ukraine wanted and eat a fish, and you can't ride a bike without a seat.

            The authorities of Ukraine also wanted those who were close to the authorities, because the people of the country do not always want what the authorities “make up”. Hopefully no examples are needed?
            As for the words of Kravchuk (she's still alive), they are no more valuable than the words of Yeltsin and Shushkevich. It was these three who signed the criminal treaty.
            With regard to the "Bandera wishlist", it is time to understand that the desire of these bastards - to take revenge for the destruction after the war. That is why they are demolishing monuments to real heroes, that is why they are enraged that Russia does not want to feed this horde for free. So they rush about in search of sponsors who pay for libel, slander and lies.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 26 2021 11: 34
              +1
              Quote: ROSS 42
              With regard to the "Bandera wishlist", it is time to understand that the desire of these bastards - to take revenge for the destruction after the war.

              Without a doubt! But how did it happen that 60% of the population turned away from Russia?
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx April 26 2021 12: 03
                0
                Quote: Overlock
                But how did it happen that 60% of the population turned away from Russia?

                And we cannot know that the Ukrainian people turned their backs on Russia, or on those who arranged such a cheerful life for the Russians with endless amendments and promises. Let's name the categories of citizens about whom the Russian authorities are fully concerned. That is why a number of questions to the Russian authorities arose among the Ukrainian population.
                Under capitalism, there cannot be a commonwealth of independent states, because for each country taken separately, foreign oligarchs are nastier and bitter than their own homegrown ones.
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 26 2021 08: 18
          +1
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Under "its own circles" ............ You see the continuation of the anti-Russian domestic policy of Ukraine


          Indeed, they count on Moscow's long-suffering in their desire to lead Russia by the nose endlessly and with impunity.
      5. KCA
        KCA April 26 2021 07: 53
        +5
        Well that is from 1991 to 2013, Ukraine and its presidents were Russia's best friends, hated Bandera and Shukhevychs, proclaimed eternal love, adored the Russian language, right? And in the same Crimea they promised an eternal base for the Russian Black Sea Fleet for free, without demanding gas at half price?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 26 2021 08: 26
          -1
          Quote: KCA
          Well that is from 1991 to 2013, Ukraine and its presidents were Russia's best friends, hated Bandera and Shukhevychs, proclaimed eternal love, adored the Russian language, right?

          So this is so, that troch is not so laughing

          If you remember HOW the presidents of Okraina held their posts after they "gave a ride" to the mediocre and Russophobe Kravchuk, then a certain tendency emerges - they voted for those, provided support to those who declared rapprochement with Russia and support for the Russian-speaking people.

          So Kuchmanoid and Yanukovosch "got out" ...
          1. KCA
            KCA April 26 2021 08: 34
            0
            Yushchenko declared rapprochement with Russia and drowned for supporting the Russian language ???
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 26 2021 08: 38
              +2
              Quote: KCA
              Yushchenko declared rapprochement with Russia and drowned for supporting the Russian language ???

              Excuse me, WHERE, IN WHAT PART of my post did you see the mention of Pupyrchasty, who came to power with the help of the "velvet", "orange" coup of 2004?

              I did not mention him at all, because he was at least sincere, and did not hide his intentions to crap Russia, behind statements of friendship and rapprochement, like Kuchma and Yanukovych ...
      6. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 26 2021 07: 57
        -1
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        But we decided that it was too difficult and it was better to snatch Crimea ..
        So much for the point of no return ..

        Lord! Why do women give birth to stupid children?
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      8. qQQQ
        qQQQ April 26 2021 09: 08
        +1
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        So much for the point of no return ..

        Maybe the point of no return was the support of the Chechen fighters and the sending of volunteers to fight against us? Or maybe this point became when the Ukrainian military shot down our planes in Georgia? And there may be many more when they stole gas, squeezed out business, banned the Russian language, etc. And all this was far from 2014. In fact, Russia did not lose anything by deciding on the collapse of Ukraine, it was just that your policy was taken out of the shadows.
        1. Semyonich from the Urals
          Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 09: 15
          -4
          It's funny, though, that you missed Georgia. And what did our planes do in Georgia?
          1. qQQQ
            qQQQ April 26 2021 09: 20
            +1
            Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
            It's funny, really, but what did our planes do in Georgia?

            And this is not important at all, but in this context it is only important that Ukraine fought against us. Her business in that conflict was the tenth, to sit quietly and express concern, but she did not want to fight against us. In fact, it was the so-called hybrid war, in which they accuse us, but they, as always, did everything through the op, and we just repeated their invention.
            1. Semyonich from the Urals
              Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 09: 26
              -5
              This is exactly what is important ... because our authorities have contrived to ruin relations with everyone ..
              1. qQQQ
                qQQQ April 26 2021 10: 11
                +1
                Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
                This is exactly what is important ... because our authorities have contrived to ruin relations with everyone ..

                I don’t understand how we screwed up Ukraine when solving our problems in Chechnya and Georgia? Ukrainian volunteers and military men killed our soldiers, and we ruined an interesting movie. Ukraine is now reaping the fruits of what it has sown.
                1. Semyonich from the Urals
                  Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 10: 41
                  -4
                  But tell me?
                  RF supplies arms to Azerbaijan? And Armenia?
                  Which of them shit on Russia?
                  1. qQQQ
                    qQQQ April 26 2021 10: 50
                    0
                    Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
                    RF supplies arms to Azerbaijan? And Armenia?

                    Don't translate the arrows, the question is about Ukraine. We are not talking about the supply of weapons, it is legal when the sale goes to states. Ukraine supplied its military to Georgia, and Chechnya was not a state, therefore, in the first and second cases, Ukraine specifically waged hostilities against Russia, i.e. acted as the aggressor. We, thank God, remembered this and answered, though later, but better.
                2. Semyonich from the Urals
                  Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 12: 16
                  -2
                  Let us prove it, how many of those volunteers were there?
                  You can also attribute Yatsenyuk, okay
                  1. qQQQ
                    qQQQ April 26 2021 14: 31
                    0
                    Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
                    Let us prove it, how many of those volunteers were there?
                    You can also attribute Yatsenyuk, okay

                    It does not matter how many, the very fact of their presence is important, plus the support of the terrorists who were provided with shelter, treatment (ask locals in Crimea how many bearded children were treated there in military sanatoriums), etc.
              2. Overlock
                Overlock April 26 2021 11: 38
                -2
                No matter the reasons, the result is important:
                Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
                ... our authorities have contrived to ruin relations with everyone ..

                A natural question arises: what kind of "relationship" was it?
                1. Semyonich from the Urals
                  Semyonich from the Urals April 26 2021 12: 18
                  -2
                  Relationships are a fickle thing. They can be improved, they can be worsened ..
                  Who have we improved with over the past 20 years?
                  Well, if only with Lukashenka, who has done it out of fear ..
                  1. qQQQ
                    qQQQ April 26 2021 14: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
                    Who have we improved with over the past 20 years?

                    We made the relationship obvious to everyone, otherwise before that, behind the words of friendship with Russia, ropes were twisted from us, while remaining deeply Russophobic. Therefore, it is unnecessary to talk about the deterioration of relations, there was not much of them.
          2. Murmur 55
            Murmur 55 April 26 2021 11: 38
            +2
            Semyonich EXPLAINED to the Georgian army that it is impossible to kill the PEACEKEEPERS.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 26 2021 11: 37
          0
          Quote: qqqq
          Maybe the point of no return was the support of the Chechen militants and the sending of volunteers to fight against us? Or maybe this point became when the Ukrainian military shot down our planes in Georgia? And there may be many more when they stole gas, squeezed out business, banned the Russian language, etc.

          2014 became the point of no return, although everything you mentioned was before. It's just that in 2014 "anti-Russia" got out from under the veil and became a state program.
      9. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 April 26 2021 11: 36
        0
        This gas theft, the constant statement that RF does not let Ukraine into a "bright future", or like 08.08.08. Help Georgia shoot down our planes, oh well, they are independent and can support whoever they want ??? How much Russia bought turbine engines from Ukraine, zap. parts to the detriment of its manufacturer, it must be admitted that the carrot policy did not work.
      10. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor April 26 2021 11: 48
        0
        Just from the fact that the Yanyka left and allowed the pro-Western fascists to occupy the territory, and ukroreykh appeared. And in Belarus, the fascists are trying to seize the country only there power, the country is not thrown to them to be torn apart.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 26 2021 07: 54
      +3
      Quote: Murmur 55
      Of course, etozh in Russia chanted about gilyak, knives, our youth galloped so as not to think that they were Ukrainians, etozh on the territory of RF formed "trains of friendship."

      All Russophobic brethren are trying to exalt Ukraine and blame Russia for everything.
  9. LeftPers
    LeftPers April 26 2021 07: 22
    0
    Grandpa is delusional
  10. Per se.
    Per se. April 26 2021 07: 41
    +4
    Kravchuk: Russia itself made Ukraine an enemy
    Who would say, one of the conspirators from Belovezhskaya Pushcha and a renegade party.
  11. nnm
    nnm April 26 2021 07: 42
    +6
    I want to share my observations: everything that we hear from Kravchuk, who is continuously giving interviews, is war, aHressor, shooting back and so on, nonsense in the style of Goebbels of the 1944-1945 spill. If we recall his howling on the topic of mobilization, then we can assume that he has already sung about the Volkssturm. But let's remember that he is the head of the TCG from Ukraine, which means that his main task is to find a peaceful solution to issues, compromises. And with his theses, he should be on some sort of "cotton wool show" or at Shuster's. Has anyone heard similar rhetoric from his visa-a-vi Kozak? I've never. Why do all the adequate Ukrainians who got into the TCG - Fokin, Sivokho, as soon as they start talking about the ways of application, are given to the Nazis and thrown out of the group? Why are people like Arestovich and the like who are raving about war every day in the TCG?

    In my opinion, the reason for all this is the same - Ukraine's unwillingness to get peace in Donbass. It is impossible to talk constantly only about enmity to come to peace.
    And with Kravchuk himself, it's even easier - he will utter his mantra endlessly, if only they once again showed on TV, remembered him, talked about him - he simply clings with all his might to any ledge falling into the abyss of oblivion after being in power ...
  12. Alexander Zima
    Alexander Zima April 26 2021 08: 01
    +1
    All the statements of the Ukrainian authorities about the white and fluffy independent UKRAINE .. are not worth a damn ... because the rot has eaten these peacekeepers nskroz .. then any sane Ukrainian understands .. especially from the south-"north."
  13. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 26 2021 08: 03
    +3
    Kravchuk is already so mired in meanness and constant deception that all his sabotage and a penny is not worth it. The son of a policeman. Genes .. There's nothing you can do about it.
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose April 26 2021 08: 14
      +3
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      that all his mischief and a broken penny is not worth

      He is paid in dollars for his nonsense.
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    2. Overlock
      Overlock April 26 2021 11: 52
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      The son of a policeman. Genes

      Father - Makar Alekseevich Kravchuk (17.03.1906 - 1944) [5] in the 1930s he served in the Polish cavalry, in the 1940s he was drafted into the ranks of the Red Army. During the Great Patriotic War in 1944, a private of the 480th Infantry Regiment of the 152nd Infantry Division of the 28th Army Makar Alekseevich Kravchuk died at the front during the battles for the liberation of the village of Gat, was buried in a mass grave in the town of p. Oktyabrsky, Gomel region of the Republic of Belarus. Leonid was raised by his stepfather and mother, who died of a stroke in 1980 in her native village and was buried there. - from "Murzilka"
  14. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 26 2021 08: 13
    0
    [Quote][/ quote
    What - no need to ask - YOU]
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 26 2021 08: 16
    +1
    Kravchuk
    This marasmatio makes statements every day. It would go where the feet are carried forward. angry
  16. alexey2073
    alexey2073 April 26 2021 08: 28
    +2
    How tired of it. Can't Ukrainians still understand that nobody needs them at all !? West? Yes, but as a consumable and rubbish, on which it is convenient to carry out various experiments and experiments. And Russia does not need them anymore. By the way, a rhetorical question, in the light of de-Sovietization, do the Ukrainians want to get rid of the regions donated by Nikita-maize?
    1. Igor Ushakov
      Igor Ushakov April 26 2021 22: 26
      +3
      Can't Ukrainians still understand that nobody needs them at all !?
      Believe it or not, most of my compatriots understand this. Few people believe in the help of the West, even among the most ardent Euro-optimists; in my opinion, from half to 2/3 of people (at least in my case in Odessa) are disappointed in the system of state power itself and do not expect anything good from Ukraine.
  17. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 26 2021 08: 35
    +1
    And then we wonder why the USSR collapsed when the party committee of the CPSU let such individuals into power!
  18. prior
    prior April 26 2021 08: 35
    +1
    Where have the "ice axes" gone ?! angry
    The most effective remedy for verbal "diarrhea". yes
  19. Pavel73
    Pavel73 April 26 2021 08: 37
    +1
    The enemy of Russia made Ukraine the one who invented it at all. And the only way out of this situation is to reformat Ukraine so that it is not an enemy of Russia. This is very difficult because the current state of affairs is beneficial to the United States.
  20. maiman61
    maiman61 April 26 2021 08: 41
    +1
    Sharovarniki have always been enemies of Russia. And this Bandera bastard did not receive a bullet in the forehead from the NKVD due to a misunderstanding. This needs to be fixed.
  21. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 26 2021 08: 48
    +1
    Again the old doo-cancer with its cockroaches was noted.
  22. APASUS
    APASUS April 26 2021 09: 02
    +3
    Kravchuk:

    Today Ukraine is an enemy for Russia. But Russia itself has made Ukraine such an enemy.

    Especially when the OUN fought on the side of the Chechens or Georgians in conflicts
  23. vavilon
    vavilon April 26 2021 09: 07
    +2
    Why comment on this schizophrenic Kravchuk, for me he is a corrupt rot, betrayed and ruined a large country, what's the difference that he said he was nobody and forget about him in any way and he will become nobody
    1. Yuri Tverdokhleb
      Yuri Tverdokhleb April 26 2021 09: 41
      +2
      I agree with you. However, I, who was born under J.V. Stalin in the south of Ukraine, have to communicate with many. And believe me, there are a lot of people who were born in Russia, and in Soviet times, for various reasons, who ended up in Ukraine, who spoke Russian well, spit viciously and to their homeland and to Putin. Yes, and my fellow countrywomen, of advanced age, who received a lot under the USSR, are in a hurry to hide the fat-Putin attack. There is also the degradation and extinction of the most non-stale shit ... of the country.
      I am convinced that the return of Russian lands is not beyond distant seas.
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 26 2021 09: 30
    +1
    He is right ... Ukraine had to be dealt with and by 2021 get a union state with loyal leadership and a single currency and main assets bought up by Russian business. So far, this has not been done in Ukraine either.
  25. Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 26 2021 09: 31
    +2
    The title photo is, of course, formidable. The editorial choice is interesting, because from this speech of this Nazi I found another, clearly preferable. In order to restore justice:

    hi
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 26 2021 11: 33
      +1
      Konstantin Gogolev (Konstantin)
      Today, 09: 31
      NEW
      +1
      The title photo is, of course, formidable. The editorial choice is interesting, because from this speech of this Nazi I found another, clearly preferable. In order to restore justice:
      It suits him better! Let him always walk like that, and even when he goes to bed. And yes, he should have a white flag in every pocket! wink
  26. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator April 26 2021 10: 23
    +3
    Well, it's not up to you to decide for the whole Ukraine and the Ukrainians old. Who was there in the Communist Party once) slut)
  27. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 26 2021 10: 52
    +5
    Yes, present at last to this boastful senile Mazepa's mace (Goering's gun is already there) may finally shut up. It's just that this face is already annoying, not to mention the statements.
  28. Tektor
    Tektor April 26 2021 11: 02
    +4
    You made the enemy of Russia for the Nazi Svidomo, Kravchuk, you will feed a Bandera policeman, it seems. It was in your genes.
  29. George Koval
    George Koval April 26 2021 11: 24
    +2
    Old dypak!
  30. Lunaaron
    Lunaaron April 26 2021 14: 50
    +1
    This is how the chutzpah looks like in the Bandera version.
  31. NF68
    NF68 April 26 2021 15: 54
    +4
    Russia organized this coup in / in Ukraine?
  32. jovanni
    jovanni April 26 2021 15: 58
    +5
    Classic: the thief shouts loudest "Stop the thief!"
  33. opuonmed
    opuonmed April 26 2021 16: 02
    +1
    Well, yes, in Moscow time, they shouted Maskalyak on Gelaka and went with fakils)))))
  34. Andrey1966
    Andrey1966 April 26 2021 16: 24
    0
    Who did you get it? ©
  35. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich April 26 2021 16: 29
    0
    giving her 3,5 billion evergreens, pig ..?
  36. xorek
    xorek April 26 2021 19: 30
    0
    Today Ukraine is an enemy for Russia. But Russia itself has made Ukraine such an enemy.

    And does Kravchuk not admit his guilt in this Russophobia? With him, Judas, in essence, everything began .. Gorbach -Yeltsin, -Kravchuk -Shushkevich ... That's for whom the gallows is crying, even those who left and in hell are waiting for "comrades" in the cauldron of popular anger .. negative
    How much blood do they have from ordinary residents of the Soviet Union ...
  37. Severok
    Severok April 26 2021 19: 31
    +2
    Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yeltsin and other traitors and enemies of the People made us enemies.
  38. AntonR7
    AntonR7 April 26 2021 20: 11
    +2
    ukrstan became an enemy by the fact of its separation from Russia as separatists
  39. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 27 2021 01: 49
    0
    Kravchuk Banderovits?
    1. akarfoxhound
      akarfoxhound April 27 2021 10: 13
      0
      Quote: Pavel57
      Kravchuk Banderovits?

      He himself said this with pride more than once, as in his youth he was a liaison and dragged the grubs to the caches of the Banderzyans. Then the caches ended, I had to devote myself to the Komsomol, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (forced to join, probably tortured laughing )
    2. Gardener91
      Gardener91 April 27 2021 10: 25
      0
      Quote: Pavel57
      Kravchuk Banderovits?

      Terry! And from childhood, plastun.
  40. akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound April 27 2021 10: 07
    0
    Well, yes, and "moskalyaku to gilyaku" in 2013-14 is not a big banderzyan on muydan screeching, and so, fulyugans are passing, very bad because they are not local, yeah ... laughing
  41. Gardener91
    Gardener91 April 27 2021 10: 24
    0
    Kravchuk is a shape-shifter from the Devil.
  42. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 27 2021 10: 35
    0
    Quote: Gardener91
    Kravchuk is a shape-shifter from the Devil.

    Rather a child of the Khrushchev thaw.
  43. oppozite28
    oppozite28 April 28 2021 03: 40
    -1
    Today Ukraine is an enemy for Russia. But Russia itself has made Ukraine such an enemy.
    Who's okay? Nivist! The favorite tactic of Ukraine, represented by the chairman of the Ukrainian delegation in the Trilateral Contact Group Leonid Makarovich Kravchuk, as well as Vladimir Aleksandrovich Zelensky, seasoned hunters gathered for the beast (they had fun with jokes), but as it turned out, not hunting, but fishing or mushrooming with berries, in as a result, they completely lost their way in the forest. laughing