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"In response to the recognition of the Armenian genocide": Turkey offered to close Incirlik airbase for the US Air Force

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Turkey called on to expel the American military from the territory of the Incirlik military base in response to Biden's recognition of the Armenian genocide. The corresponding statement was made by the chairman of the Turkish Rodina party, Dogu Perincek.


The Turkish politician proposed to free the territory of the military base from the Americans within two weeks and establish full Turkish control over it. Currently, both the Turkish and American Air Forces are located at the airbase, previously the Bundeswehr forces were located there, but in 2017 they were withdrawn.

Despite threats to close Incirlik to the Americans, everything will remain in place. The US Air Force will continue to take off from the easternmost US and NATO Air Command base in Europe, and Turkey will also scare the Pentagon with possible expulsion. In recent years, this threat has probably been heard for the fifth or sixth time, but everything remains as it was.

In the US, of course, they understand that Ankara can "kick up", so they are considering alternative accommodation options aviation... These are mainly the territories of Greece. They turn their attention to the US naval base in the Greek Gulf of Souda on the north coast of Crete. In Athens, not against the deployment of Americans, but the question remains with the deployment of an American nuclear weaponsrumored to be stored at Incirlik.

Incirlik airbase belongs to Turkey, not NATO, therefore Ankara has all rights to expel the American air force from its territory.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 25 2021 18: 13
    +18
    Grandfather is burning! laughing
    With whom Trump did not quarrel, Bidon will complete the matter!)))
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr April 25 2021 18: 16
      +24
      The Turks will not expel anyone from the airbase. They live and subside. Turkey has a different weight category than America.
      1. Patigorsk2020
        Patigorsk2020 April 25 2021 18: 23
        +11
        Quote: oleg-gr
        They live and subside. Turkey has a different weight category than America.

        And the S-400 was bought in spite of the fact that the Americans were pooping? !!! ))) You shouldn't doubt Erdogan. The question is different. If he does nothing, then believe me, it means they have agreed BEFORE the recognition. And if Erdogan starts to brawl, then the Americans punished Turkey because of their friendship with Russia.

        There are no other options!
        1. aleks neym_2
          aleks neym_2 April 25 2021 19: 17
          +5
          And where does Erdogan have to do with it? He just keeps silent: it is the Rodina party that is demanding, which is considered pro-Russian. Erdogan will somehow survive such a slap in the face from mattress mats.
          1. hirurg
            hirurg April 25 2021 20: 14
            +2
            And here Erdogan will not stand it.
            He was not very patient before.
            1. Patigorsk2020
              Patigorsk2020 April 25 2021 22: 00
              0
              Quote: hirurg
              And here Erdogan will not stand it.
              He was not very patient before

              I agree, but I am concerned about one nuance. Before the recognition of the "genocide" Biden called Erdogan and what it was about, only God knows. I also want to note that Armenia has officially refused to meet on the normalization of relations with Azerbaijan. That is, she spits on what she signed. I don't believe in chance.
              1. hirurg
                hirurg April 25 2021 22: 12
                0
                Now everyone will take a break to digest, and then ...
                1. Patigorsk2020
                  Patigorsk2020 April 26 2021 09: 56
                  -3
                  Quote: hirurg
                  Now everyone will take a break to digest, and then ...

                  I agree. I bet the Armenians will throw something against Turkey and Russia.
              2. hirurg
                hirurg April 25 2021 22: 59
                +2
                What do all these calls change?
                The result is obvious.
                Let's look at Erdogan's physical relations.
                1. Patigorsk2020
                  Patigorsk2020 April 26 2021 10: 02
                  -4
                  Quote: hirurg
                  What do all these calls change?

                  Do you know what they were talking about? Maybe Erdogan was told, bro is just a word to get more Armenian votes for the second elections and remove Armenia from the influence of Russia, and in return .................. this and that. The West is clearly preparing something against Russia - Turkey and Azerbaijan. Here's the news ....

                  France prepares a document on the recognition of Karabakh
                  https://ura.news/news/1052454868

                  This suggests that Russia will be put in an awkward position. Well, we will watch and wait ............... something is planned.

                  If Russia gives back (refuses the signed), it will ruin relations with Azerbaijan and Turkey, and if it does not recognize what the French and Americans are doing, it will ruin relations with the Armenians. I've said it 1000 times. The Armenian question is a lever of pressure. They are used and not regretted. They are a tool nothing more. It has always been so, it is, and it will be so in the future.
              3. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U April 26 2021 03: 21
                +3
                Quote: Patigorsk2020
                Before the recognition of the "genocide" Biden called Erdogan and what it was about, only God knows
                Biden distinguished himself with intelligence and ingenuity, intelligence and ingenuity ... In short, his time has passed, not in the form of a grandfather.
            2. Revolver
              Revolver April 26 2021 00: 34
              0
              Quote: hirurg
              And here Erdogan will not stand it.
              He was not very patient before.

              He will swallow if he does not want Turkey to be kicked out of NATO in disgrace.
              1. dauria
                dauria April 26 2021 02: 04
                +4
                He will swallow if he does not want Turkey to be kicked out of NATO in disgrace.


                Is it a shame? Shame for the United States will be - the most serious vassal kicked up and ceased to obey. The rest of the syavki, in thought, will scratch their turnips, "Isn't it a naked king?"
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky April 25 2021 21: 30
            +5
            Quote: aleks neym_2
            And where does Erdogan have to do with it? He just keeps silent: it is the Rodina party that is demanding, which is considered pro-Russian. Erdogan will somehow survive such a slap in the face from mattress mats.
            This is doubtful. Most likely Edik will take a bite of the bit and play against mattresses, which are playing their game against Ankara already openly and for a number of years - an attempt to overthrow Edik, support for the Kurds, sanctions for the S-400, withdrawal from the F-35 production program, recognition of the Armenian genocide ... This is what lies on the surface. It seems that now Ankara will not be limited only to the Incirlik base, but will also take the initiative to recognize the genocide of the indigenous peoples of America and get confused with the acquisition of the Russian Su-57, at the same time creating problems for the passage of American ships through the Bosphorus. Be that as it may, the squabble of mattresses with the Turks can lead to large graters in the NATO bloc.
            1. Patigorsk2020
              Patigorsk2020 April 25 2021 22: 04
              +4
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Most likely Edik will take a bite at the bit and play against the mattresses

              He has a lot of trump cards. I can list a couple.
              1. Purchase of new weapons from Russia.
              2. To expel 200.000 illegal Armenians from Turkey (this is more than enough for the Armenians from Turkey to spit on Biden)
              3. "Politely" ask the Americans to leave the base. And logistics, looking for a new location, and so on .... this is still a crap.
              4. Open the border so that all the Arab emigrants whom Turkey contains, let them go to Europe ....... These all 4 points will then fall sideways to them.

              One thing is clear for sure, the Armenians have started a very dangerous game ...... It will only be worse for them.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky April 25 2021 22: 34
                +3
                Quote: Patigorsk2020
                He has a lot of trump cards.

                So that would be enough for that, in turn, painfully click the mattresses on the nose.
                Quote: Patigorsk2020
                One thing is clear for sure, the Armenians have started a very dangerous game ...... It will only be worse for them.

                Even taking into account the progress achieved in the war for Karabakh, the Turks, relying on Baku, were already able to create a number of hemorrhoids there, both for the Armenians and for us. Here, in the showdown between Ankara and Washington, the Armenians will most likely be assigned the role of being "between the anvil and the hammer." with Russia, because Edik is not doing well in the economy anyway.
                1. LiSiCyn
                  LiSiCyn April 25 2021 23: 04
                  +2
                  Good night Dmitry hi If you have a night ..? wink
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  it is unlikely that the Turks will go to increase the pressure on the Armenians so as not to aggravate relations with Russia, because Edik is not doing well in the economy anyway.

                  Immediately, no.?! But then, then, everything can be ... yes Oriental people, they are temperamental ... (fu, barely wrote)))
                  When the lawsuits fall, "about return and compensation", then we'll see how Erdogan is "Sultan" .. ??
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky April 25 2021 23: 35
                    +3
                    Quote: LiSiCyn
                    Good night Dmitry hi If you have a night ..? wink
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    it is unlikely that the Turks will go to increase the pressure on the Armenians so as not to aggravate relations with Russia, because Edik is not doing well in the economy anyway.

                    Immediately, no.?! But then, then, everything can be ... yes Oriental people, they are temperamental ... (fu, barely wrote)))
                    When the lawsuits fall, "about return and compensation", then we'll see how Erdogan is "Sultan" .. ??

                    Good night Stas hi We have a night too yes Edik managed to spoil relations with all border countries, including Europe, and today he communicates more or less evenly with Baku and Tbilisi, which are unable to compensate for the economic losses of Ankara, which arose as a result of the Sultan's ambitions. The fact that the United States has shown its readiness to put further pressure on such a painful issue as the recognition of the genocide suggests that the sanctions pressure will grow, plus the mattresses can roll out an initiative ball through the UN to force Ankara to pay compensation to Yerevan for 1,5 million ruined souls. Khosh is not a Khosh, but the Sultan will be forced to somehow pacify his Wishlist, sacrificing secondary issues, which in relations with Russia he has a whole heap from Syria and Libya to Ukraine and Crimea, since his probable creditors "in such a difficult hour" can only be the Russian Federation and the PRC, which are pursuing a relatively independent policy from Washington. We live in interesting times, everything changes not over the years and months, but over the course of a day and it is not known what the coming day is preparing for us hi
                    1. LiSiCyn
                      LiSiCyn April 25 2021 23: 50
                      -2
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      since its probable creditors "in such a difficult hour" can only be the Russian Federation and the PRC,

                      Oh, such an unreliable "ally" ... It's me, about Turkey. Corrupt ... This one, perhaps, a knife in the back. But, as a "lightning rod", it is good. yes This is me, about the "global conflict". laughing
                      And on the regional level, yes, this, coupled with other factors, gives a chance for concessions to Turkey in the sphere of our interests.
                      1. Nyrobsky
                        Nyrobsky April 25 2021 23: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: LiSiCyn
                        Oh, such an unreliable "ally" ... It's me, about Turkey. Corrupt ... This one, perhaps, a knife in the back. But, as a "lightning rod", it is good. This is me, about the "global conflict".

                        That is, that is, he himself gave a bunch of reasons to doubt the reliability, especially in terms of compliance with the obligations in cleaning up the Idlib gadyushnik, but then his graters with mattresses were not so acute. Maybe now he will be more accommodating. And the fact that you have to go to the Turks for a cup of tea in a bulletproof vest and with a grenade is already an axiom. yes
                    2. Patigorsk2020
                      Patigorsk2020 April 26 2021 10: 10
                      -2
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      Edik managed to spoil relations with all border countries, including Europe

                      Edik has quite a few countries that will not only support, but fiercely support. This is Pakistan. (Starting from pilots and soldiers, ending with equipment) as well as Qatar, which will support with loot! What else does? I must emphasize, at the very least, as long as Turkey is coping with the problems. We will see what happens next ...........................
                2. Patigorsk2020
                  Patigorsk2020 April 26 2021 10: 06
                  -1
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Here, in the showdown between Ankara and Washington, the Armenians will most likely be assigned the role of being "between the anvil and the hammer."

                  Totally agree!
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  It only seems that, given the serious deterioration of relations with Washington, the Turks are unlikely to step up pressure on the Armenians so as not to aggravate relations with Russia.

                  It is truth too. I agree. But believe me, even without this point, the Armenian question is at the 5th point of the 100-year-old crap they cannot get rid of. They will never touch Armenians and Armenia. Trust me. You gave one reason and I gave another. (Added)
              2. Pandiurin
                Pandiurin April 26 2021 19: 02
                +1
                Quote: Patigorsk2020

                He has a lot of trump cards ...
                3. "Politely" ask the Americans to leave the base. And logistics, looking for a new location, and so on .... this is still a crap.


                Trump cards for blackmail and trade with partners remain strong until they are won back.
                The threat to expel the Americans from the Turkish airbase is now a trump card and a lever.
                Erdogan can realize this, but if he does, then the trump cards will be converted into a strong pendal for the Americans.
                There will be fewer trump cards and you will have to receive a response from amers.
                For example, they will recognize the Syrian Kurds as a state and place airbases there.
                Protokurdistan will turn out.
                What are the dividends for Turkey in this?
            2. midivan
              midivan April 25 2021 23: 40
              0
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Su-57, at the same time creating problems for the passage of American ships through the Bosphorus.

              Ohh, if only ... But for this we need to hurry up a lot, 57x we don’t have to hand out request not enough for ourselves, but cooperation in production ... Instead of the United States, we would have our base in Turkey to protect the Turks, NATO would also discourage, I hope Erdogan understands that this same NATA is definitely not for his protection, and Putin is still his best friend lol, although if this goes on, Edik will have to become one. Interesting times have come ... Turkey would really not interfere with us as a friend (true), but there is little trust, and Erdogan will have to give up a lot in this case, can he step on his pride without waiting for the states to step between his legs ...
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky April 25 2021 23: 50
                +3
                Quote: midivan
                Turkey would not really interfere with us as a friend (true), but there is little trust, and Erdogan will have to give up a lot in this case, whether he can step on his pride without waiting for the states to step between his legs.

                Good question. hi
                As if, feeling that Ankara could finally get out of hand, the mattresses did not muddle Edik with the option = Suleimani-2, or Lukashenka-1, in the sense of a coup d'etat with liquidation. With these murderers will become. It must be admitted that no matter how muddy Edik may be, for the United States he is the main obstacle in the return of Turkey to its full control.
                1. midivan
                  midivan April 25 2021 23: 56
                  0
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  As if, feeling that Ankara could finally get out of hand, the mattresses did not muddy in relation to Edik the option = Suleimani-2, or Lukashenka-1,

                  It was very great for us repeat
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  It must be admitted that no matter how muddy Edik may be, for the United States he is the main obstacle in the return of Turkey to its full control.

                  I agree. hi
            3. Revolver
              Revolver April 26 2021 00: 41
              +4
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              problems for the passage of American ships through the Bosphorus.

              Problems for American ships when passing the Bosphorus are created not by Turkey, but by the Montreux Convention. Regardless of Turkey's wishes, such problems cannot become more or less. And Turkey cannot withdraw from the convention, because it is fraught with the risk of losing control over the straits.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky April 26 2021 08: 50
                +1
                Quote: Nagan
                Problems for American ships when passing the Bosphorus are created not by Turkey, but by the Montreux Convention. Regardless of Turkey's wishes, such problems cannot become more or less. And Turkey cannot withdraw from the convention, because it is fraught with the risk of losing control over the straits.

                Montreux, of course, Montreux, but I suppose nothing will prevent Ankara from suspending the movement of ships in order to ensure the safety of navigation in the event of a "discovery" of the horned mines of the Second World War era brought from nowhere by jellyfish. Montreux does not prohibit the passage of gas carriers, because when it was written there were no ships of this class, but nevertheless Ankara does not allow their passage in view of the increased danger and to avoid a man-made disaster. In order to bypass Montreux, the Turks make their own canal, and after its commissioning, God alone knows that it can sink in the Bosphorus and restrict the movement of ships in order to redirect cargo flows to pass through the new canal, and other rules will apply there.
          3. Albay
            Albay April 25 2021 21: 33
            +3
            Yes, this party does not enjoy much support and popularity like Perincek.
        2. demo
          demo April 25 2021 19: 34
          +2
          And the S-400 was bought in spite of the fact that the Americans were pooping? !!! )))
          But I am tormented by "vague doubts".
          No matter how the desire of the "partners" can be seen here and slowly study the "subject".
          After all, you heard that the "Shell" from Libya was stolen? And then C400 !!!
          1. Patigorsk2020
            Patigorsk2020 April 25 2021 22: 09
            -4
            Quote: demo
            After all, you heard that the "Shell" from Libya was stolen? And then C400 !!!

            Dear, Putin will suit Erdogan Kuzkin's mother for this, and do not even doubt it, and Erdogan himself knows about it. If you agree that they will not show it, then they will not show it.
            1. Maikcg
              Maikcg April 25 2021 23: 14
              -1
              He can be loved in an army way. Israel some time ago in this way used nuclear materials from the Americans.

              Declassified materials suggest that the US government was aware of the theft of nuclear materials, including enriched uranium, in the 1960s, but only President Kennedy tried to stop these actions.
              In the summer of 1963, John F. Kennedy categorically opposed Israel's work on the development of nuclear weapons, threatened to refuse an alliance with the United States, then he ordered an investigation into the activities of the Mossad agents in the United States. The case concerned just the theft of uranium in the activities of the NUMEC company. John F. Kennedy ordered the American ambassador in Tel Aviv to come to David Ben-Gurion on June 16, 1963 and give him an ultimatum - to allow American inspectors to the Dimona nuclear center - otherwise the United States threatened to stop supporting Israel. Ben Gurion refused and resigned. After that, John F. Kennedy sent a more stringent demand to the new Prime Minister Levi Eshkol to stop the development of the atomic bomb.
              Kennedy was assassinated 5 months later.
              Johnson was a supporter of the supply of all types and types of weapons to Israel. The US Atomic Energy Commission sounded a new alarm and in 1966 turned to the FBI with a statement about the theft of nuclear materials. However, the FBI director refused to consider it, the president was also silent.
              And it all spun up to Nixon, who finally gave the command to face.
            2. demo
              demo April 26 2021 13: 26
              -1
              Doubt is a natural property of modern man.
              Even the one you mentioned (peering at night !!!!) even doubts.
              How many times has he been deceived? Yes, not counting!
              So what? Naivety, against the background of hypertrophied conceit, is the basis for repeated deception.
              SOMEONE promised to show "Kuzkin's mother" to those who shot down our plane over Sinai. Where are the results?

              November 17, 2015. The head of the FSB, Alexander Bortnikov, at a meeting with Vladimir Putin, said that an explosive device with a capacity of up to 321 kg in TNT was detonated on board the A1, and traces of foreign-made explosives were found on the wreckage of the plane. The President instructed the Russian special services to find and destroy those responsible for the crash of the liner.

              Read more at RBC:
              https://www.rbc.ru/photoreport/31/10/2016/581341719a7947123e5cef2f

              January 9, 2016. It became known that an EgyptAir technician, whose cousin joined the Islamic State terrorist group banned in Russia, is suspected of involvement in the A321 crash. The technician was detained along with two police officers working at Sharm el Sheikh airport and a baggage loader, who may have helped him get the bomb on board.

              Read more at RBC:
              https://www.rbc.ru/photoreport/31/10/2016/581341719a7947123e5cef2f

              September 13, 2016. Experts in Egypt have identified the site of the bomb that led to the crash of the A321 aircraft over the Sinai: it was laid in the oversized baggage compartment at the rear of the aircraft. It also turned out that the terrorists engaged an employee of the airport service department to plant the bomb: the package with explosives was brought into the compartment first, after which it was laid with strollers and furniture, reliably hiding it from prying eyes.

              Read more at RBC:
              https://www.rbc.ru/photoreport/31/10/2016/581341719a7947123e5cef2f

              October 16, 2016. The Egyptian authorities said that the joint work of the Egyptian and Russian sides on the issue of resuming flights continues and they hope for a speedy resolution of the issue. The Egyptian side promised to eliminate all deficiencies identified by Russian experts in the security systems of local airports by winter, but Russian tour operators assume that flights will be resumed no earlier than spring 2017.

              Read more at RBC:
              https://www.rbc.ru/photoreport/31/10/2016/581341719a7947123e5cef2f

              And it's all? Yes. It's all.
              So about the fact that someone will show "Kuz'kin's mother" to someone - this is a very bold statement.
              It is human nature to grow old. And get tired. It's time to rest.
        3. YOUR
          YOUR April 26 2021 02: 53
          +1
          More than a strange friendship. The plane was shot down, they entered Azerbaijan, they beat the Syrian army, they support the militants, they show their teeth in the Caucasus, Crimea is Ukrainian for them and Edik clearly stated that they would never recognize them as Russian, they delivered their Bayraktar TB2 to Ukraine, and they are still planning to deliver a party.
          What kind of friendship is this?
          Who are the enemies then?
        4. 210ox
          210ox April 26 2021 05: 29
          +1
          What kind of friendship with Russia? "Found a damn," friend "...
      2. Kaman
        Kaman April 25 2021 18: 38
        +2
        It will only be good for the States. Greece and Bulgaria will gladly provide their bases for the US Air Force
        1. Patigorsk2020
          Patigorsk2020 April 25 2021 22: 10
          -5
          Quote: Kaman
          Greece and Bulgaria will gladly provide their bases for the US Air Force

          Are you sure? Do you think it will be easy to transfer everything? Do you think it will not be too far then to fly to the Middle East? Not so simple...................
          1. Maikcg
            Maikcg April 25 2021 23: 17
            +4
            They have 700 bases abroad. Or 800, who counted them, went astray long ago. Rebuilding the logistics of one, albeit large enough, will not cause problems for them.
      3. Gato
        Gato April 25 2021 18: 40
        +5
        The Turks will not expel anyone from the airbase.

        They will not be kicked out, of course, but they can mix donkey urine into kerosene.
      4. Ruudi 34
        Ruudi 34 April 25 2021 22: 11
        -5
        And the Russians will not leave less money in Turkey. What inspires respect - Erdogan wanted to spit on these "confessions of genocide". If only our guarantor would say "Well, we killed the Poles in Katyn ... and what?" So no - the saints "want" to look ... what for?))))
        1. Maikcg
          Maikcg April 25 2021 23: 18
          -1
          Not what for, but for the truth.
        2. midivan
          midivan April 25 2021 23: 50
          +1
          Quote: Rudi 34
          "Well, we killed the Poles in Katyn ... and what?" So no - the saints "want" to look ... what for?))))

          belay GDP killed the Poles or with him? Not recognized before him there is nothing to climb with confessions and he ...., and to whom the recognition of the Poles? Where have they been all this time? It was necessary from the USSR and demanding confessions (I would even look at this without popcorn lol ) But from such opinions as yours I am very surprised, although if you look from the side of what you say from Poland, then it is clear, well, or the blood flows in you. wink
          1. Kaman
            Kaman April 26 2021 07: 25
            -4
            Midivan, that is, do you think who is strong is right? You are for the right of force, and I am for the force of law, that is the difference.
            1. midivan
              midivan April 26 2021 15: 00
              0
              Quote: Kaman
              Midivan, that is, do you think who is strong is right? You are for the right of force, and I am for the force of law, that is the difference.

              Not at all, I don’t think so, but I think that it is necessary to fight for the right even with the strong, and not wait until he weakens because it smells of cowardice.
      5. krops777
        krops777 April 26 2021 07: 24
        +1
        The Turks will not expel anyone from the airbase. They live and subside. Turkey has a different weight category than America.


        Somehow, quite recently, the United States, Erdogash, they wanted to displace up to the physical elimination, also after that the chants were to close the base, but things are still there, but here the recognition of the Armenian genocide, all the more they will make noise for the sake of appearance and calm down. Here the question is different, why is it suddenly such generosity to the Armenians from the United States that after that Pashinyan blew through from his place. These parasites from the United States don't just do anything.
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 25 2021 18: 36
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      With whom Trump did not quarrel, Bidon will complete the matter!)))

      Yeah ... policy continuity ... laughing
    3. halpat
      halpat April 25 2021 18: 38
      -6
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Grandfather is burning! laughing
      With whom Trump did not quarrel, Bidon will complete the matter!)))

      Bravo!! Close the airbase for the United States and provide it to the Russian Aerospace Forces.
    4. knn54
      knn54 April 25 2021 18: 42
      +18
      Something today "Ostap suffered":
      They are calling from the city party committee to the church. Father picks up the phone.
      - Hello!
      - Hello, father! You are worried from the city committee. You understand, here we must have a party meeting, but there are no benches, lend, eh ?!
      - Fuck you benches! Last time I gave it, so you wrote different mischief for them!
      - Ah, to hell with us benches ?! Then to hell with you pioneers in the church choir!
      - Ah, to hell with us pioneers ?! Then to hell with you monks on the cleanup!
      - Ah, to hell with us monks ?! Then to hell with you Komsomol members on the procession!
      - Oh, fuck us Komsomol members ?! Then fuck you nuns in the sauna!
      - Well, you know, father, for such words and a party card you can put it on the table!
    5. spirit
      spirit April 25 2021 18: 48
      +1
      Yes, this story is already more than 100 years old, in the First World War, Wilson was most indignant of all world leaders, that he even threatened the Turks there) things are still there hi
    6. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara April 25 2021 19: 05
      +2
      Again 25, again incirlik :)
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 25 2021 21: 13
        0
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Again 25, again incirlik :)

        A theme for trade and threats. Like an anecdote about Vaso and Vakhtang ... - "Vakhtang is a blame dagger from the scabbard!" Vaso - "I don't blame!" Vakhtang - "Why?, Bijo?" Vaso - "I can't." "You see ... Zargalello !!!"
  2. cniza
    cniza April 25 2021 18: 13
    +3
    Turkey offered to close Incirlik airbase for the US Air Force


    Well, what started or is it just steam? ...
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 25 2021 18: 16
      +6
      Empty. They'll be buzzing and calm down. They will swallow them like cute ones.
      1. cniza
        cniza April 25 2021 18: 28
        +3
        We will see how they continue to make noise or calm down ...
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter April 25 2021 18: 20
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      Well, what started or is it just steam? ..

      Now is the time for fakes ... Nothing can be taken for granted. Anything is sounded ... And believe it or not. Logic and common sense? No, you haven't heard ...
      1. cniza
        cniza April 25 2021 18: 29
        +4
        And this cannot be ruled out, it will soon become clear ...
        1. Anar
          Anar April 25 2021 20: 10
          +1
          America has used its latest pressure on Turkey. I imposed both economic and political sanctions, imposed an arms embargo, removed the F-35 from the F-400 project, there’s no point in it ... So I used the last levers of pressure. Although this is more of a symbolic pressure and there is nothing more. What will they do next? And it's not just that Turkey doesn't listen to the US and the S-XNUMX. There are also other irritating factors for America, such as the fact that it is Russia that builds a nuclear power plant, that Turkey sells gas from Russia (although the United States is still trying to oust Russian gas). And at the expense of gas, it is not only the United States that annoys, but also countries such as Germany. Turkey wanted and did, and Germany not only does not see profit, but the whole world jokes over her behind her back.
          But most importantly, the United States used all its main levers of pressure, and Turkey did not bend.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 April 25 2021 18: 14
    +5
    "In response to the recognition of the Armenian genocide": Turkey offered to close Incirlik airbase for the US Air Force
    Come on ... there are more interes than you might think.
    1. cniza
      cniza April 25 2021 18: 27
      +5
      For the electorate, they will make some noise and release on the brakes ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 25 2021 21: 31
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        For the electorate, they will make some noise and release on the brakes ...

        hi good evening to you! It would be good if the staff did not stop at this, but would continue something like this further.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 April 26 2021 08: 48
        +3
        Words, words, and we will look at deeds.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid April 26 2021 09: 00
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Words words, ........
          You, Victor, once reported on the climate summit.
          It’s not in the best way for the Russian Federation. Or what I didn’t understand?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 26 2021 09: 04
            +1
            It's early to say, bye. As it was written, the minke whales did not succeed, because .... there are many small reasons, obstacles that they could not immediately break through! Now there will be a tedious, exhausting process, the results of which are not yet clear.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid April 25 2021 21: 20
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      "In response to the recognition of the Armenian genocide": Turkey offered to close Incirlik airbase for the US Air Force
      Come on ... there are more interes than you might think.

      And yet ------ will suddenly be closed?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 25 2021 21: 30
        +4
        Will be transferred to Cyprus.
        Cyprus, by the way, is covered by Russian S-300s.
        It will be cool if a large NATO base is protected
        Russian air defense systems. good drinks
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 April 26 2021 08: 47
        +1
        Hi Dmitry soldier
        NATO has a lot of bases ... and the sultan is still cunning and you should not expect anything good from him.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid April 26 2021 09: 06
          +2
          Good morning and good day to you, Victor! The Sultan is vindictive, as an eastern ruler should be. I guess he won't leave it am without attention. Perhaps for a while he will think recourse how best to take revenge.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid April 26 2021 09: 07
          +1
          Good morning and good day to you, Victor! The Sultan is vindictive, as an eastern ruler should be. I guess he won't leave it am without attention. Perhaps for a while he will think recourse how best to take revenge.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 26 2021 09: 13
            +2
            The head of state has no right to personal grievances ... he, the state he leads, has only INTERESY!
            There will be a lot of turbidity, verbal husk, and so he is busy with what, as it seems to him, NECESSARY.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid April 26 2021 09: 36
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              The head of state has no right to personal grievances ...
              Erdogan demonstrated request the opposite was ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 26 2021 10: 05
                +1
                The main thing is not what he demonstrated ... the main thing is what he did, he continues to do!
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid April 26 2021 10: 12
                  +1
                  After all, there used to be good relations with Assad, and then what happened ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 26 2021 10: 56
                    +1
                    Interests rarely change, but circumstances, conditions tend to change ...
                    The Sultan saw the opportunity to bite off, in the lung, at the neighbor's ... Wishlist increased and went off. Nothing new, unusual, in general.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid April 26 2021 11: 34
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Interests rarely change, but the circumstances, conditions tend to change ...
                      good aphorism.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 26 2021 11: 57
                        +1
                        the sultan, he is still a "friend" ... troubles from him will be, if you do not look carefully.
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid April 26 2021 12: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        the sultan, he is still a "friend" ... troubles from him will be, if you do not look carefully.

                        He is not a friend, even in quotation marks lol let's just say - a temporary companion, on some part of the way ..... yes, you need to look after him.
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 25 2021 18: 16
    -27%
    Turkey has succeeded, and Russia has been crushed, and the whole of Central Asia is under control, and also Qatar, Libya ... and all without nuclear weapons
    1. sabakina
      sabakina April 25 2021 18: 23
      +7
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      Turkey has succeeded, and Russia has been crushed, and the whole of Central Asia is under control, and also Qatar, Libya ... and all without nuclear weapons

      Be careful not to be crushed as you pass by ... wink
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner April 25 2021 18: 29
        +4
        These were no longer just crushed, but rolled up to the state of wallpaper along with trousers. They run around here as for a session to the shrink. But it looks like it's all in vain.
      2. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 25 2021 18: 37
        -15%
        I'm talking about Turkey, and you're all about me, Natasha, your threats will be reflected on you ... only even more tragically
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha April 25 2021 18: 59
          +9
          Kholui T.O. Aren't you tired of mediocre trolls? No fantasy, no spark. Boredom
    2. Konstantin Gogolev
      Konstantin Gogolev April 25 2021 19: 37
      +2
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      Turkey has succeeded, and Russia has been crushed, and the whole of Central Asia is under control, and also Qatar, Libya ... and all without nuclear weapons

      Kholui, we all remember your statements, especially that Turkey has very strong intelligence, because no one caught them "hot." yes And raids, raids, raids.
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 25 2021 21: 17
        -3
        We also remembered your cover for corruption, so you won’t get rid of it. Kholui is you, and I am Kholuay, it will not be like after the collapse of the USSR, everyone will be dragged out to the people
        1. Konstantin Gogolev
          Konstantin Gogolev April 25 2021 21: 32
          0
          Holuay, not specifically made a typo. I agree that this is extremely unpleasant for you. And although you are a famous troll and even insulted me, this is your ugly act, and I apologize for mine.
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 25 2021 21: 44
            -2
            Just don't text me, it's simple
            1. Konstantin Gogolev
              Konstantin Gogolev April 25 2021 21: 48
              -1
              Do not slander, I am not writing to you - I am commenting. And I prefer to reserve this right. Democracy, freedom of speech, etc.
      2. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 25 2021 21: 26
        -3
        Do not run after me, catch natural traitors, otherwise the Turks will soon recruit you, they have already dragged one article through the Duma, according to which some Russians are sitting, you are snooping around on the instructions of Turkey, do you think no one understands this? You shouldn't think so
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X April 25 2021 18: 24
    +3
    All such statements of politicians are populism and nothing more. Turkey is a NATO member. For all the disagreements with the United States, they will be friends against Russia and with the United States and Ukraine. And the base will not be closed ...
  • Gardener91
    Gardener91 April 25 2021 18: 26
    +1
    Turkey similarly expresses its protest for the recognition of the Armenian genocide by the United States. That's all, the movie is over.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 25 2021 18: 36
    +2
    And this politician, as I understand it, is an approximate analogue of our Zhirik? Parrot leaf? Shout, check the reaction of the people, play around.
  • Alien From
    Alien From April 25 2021 18: 41
    +2
    Mattresses will laugh at the Sultan and that's it.
  • north 2
    north 2 April 25 2021 18: 46
    +1
    on Senka and a hat. Some slaughtered the Indians, others slaughtered the Armenians, and now both are amazed that this had not happened. Of course, Turkey will not expel the US base from its territory, but Turkey could create a precedent by recognizing that the US committed genocide of the Indians ...
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra April 25 2021 18: 54
    -5
    AHAHAKHA))) I predicted this 2-3 weeks ago, here you don't need to be Nostradamus, moreover, the Turks can go for a tough option - Incirlik, by the way, with nuclear weapons - maybe they even have a hostage of the second strongest army NATO is not just gouging, the United States is not in a position to look askance at it.
    The hostage option is, of course, exaggerated, but something like that can be done. Like prohibiting flights from it and to it - guys, they say so and so, we are at war with international terrorism Kurds, and they have all sorts of things. UAVs, they say. Well, for your safety, so that we don't overwhelm you - sit in 4 walls for now
  • Tagan
    Tagan April 25 2021 18: 58
    +4
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    Turkey has succeeded, and Russia has been crushed, and the whole of Central Asia is under control, and also Qatar, Libya ... and all without nuclear weapons

    Will you ever stop raving? Russian vise for Turkish Faberge is in good working order.
  • Shahno
    Shahno April 25 2021 19: 01
    +2
    I am always happy with such decisions on the part of Turkey.
  • Tagan
    Tagan April 25 2021 19: 03
    0
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    I'm talking about Turkey, and you're all about me, Natasha, your threats will be reflected on you ... only even more tragically

    Have you already prepared a voodoo doll? Do not prick your fingers)))
  • vitvit123
    vitvit123 April 25 2021 19: 12
    0
    And what are the consequences for the Turks of recognizing or not recognizing the Armenian genocide by someone? Tell me who knows .. why the Turks are so worried about this? Is it just a principle or something serious?
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik April 25 2021 19: 22
      0
      Quote: vitvit123
      And what are the consequences for the Turks of recognizing or not recognizing the Armenian Genocide by someone?

      NO.
      I will say more, in 1981, President Ronald Reagan recognized Armenian genocide. Then he stopped recognizing. Congress, Senate, 49 out of 50 states have recognized genocide.
      A special court within the UN has legal force, which must conduct an investigation; the Armenians themselves do not agree on this process.
      There is an opinion that these games are aimed at pulling Armenians from under Russia. Within the framework of the election campaign in Armenia. They say Moscow could stop the war in Karabakh, but did not do it, because Erdogan is friends, but there was a bad president in Washington, and the United States, if anything, will protect it. You need to be friends with them and under their wing you can talk on equal terms with the Turks. Yes, and start trading, if anything, they will stand up for us. And he will protect him from Moscow, which forces him to leave Karabakh and build a road.
      Erdogan's mild response confirms this theory. Another divorce from Turks and Anglo-Saxons.
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 April 25 2021 19: 29
        +1
        Thank you ! Kindergarten, damn it ... I thought what a problem, since the Turks are so worried .. and they are all "asses are measured" ..
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik April 25 2021 19: 37
          -1
          It's a game for the audience. Look how the Armenians were delighted with the title of their beloved wife.


          But in reality, as the combat coordination of NATO troops went on, so it goes. As the United States and the Turks were allies, they remain.

      2. Anzhey V.
        Anzhey V. April 25 2021 20: 21
        +7
        President Joe Biden's statement cannot be construed as a legal recognition of the genocide. The Statement and the Presidential Decree (Order), which is considered a legal act, should not be confused. Legal recognition by the state is Federal Law, passed by both houses of Congress (Joint Resolution - JR) and approved by the Supreme Court. Since 1974, the recognition of the genocide has been carried out according to the principle of "mandatory incompleteness": the House of Representatives accepts - blocks the Senate, adopts the Senate - the Speaker of the House does not put it to a general vote, JR is formalized - blocks the White House. To date, there is a presidential statement that reflects the position of a very specific administration.
        1. Ruudi 34
          Ruudi 34 April 25 2021 22: 19
          0
          Very interesting and informative. Thank you. Surprised by the lack of likes ..... however, "patriotism" he is - purely a feeling and, accordingly, lack of reason. )
          1. Anzhey V.
            Anzhey V. April 26 2021 08: 07
            -1
            Please Rudy)

            I'm glad it turned out to be interesting information for someone)
      3. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn April 25 2021 23: 26
        0
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        Yes, and start trading, if anything, they will stand up for us.

        As I understand it, the word must be "bargain"? Because what Armenians can and with whom can they trade is a big question? what
        You forget about the legal side. This makes it possible to file civil claims in the US courts. And recognition in the UN, it’s just a piece of cake, where is the UN ..!? winked
    2. Anar
      Anar April 26 2021 08: 57
      0
      Pure principle.
  • Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 25 2021 19: 15
    +1
    In general, it is becoming a trend that if the United States announces sanctions (or creates any official problems), then at the same time they remind that they are also considering the next trap. This is insurance - "if you push you, we will continue to oppress you further."
    Taipych, of course, hit hard - he looks too independent for the West, I would even say not enough Russophobe-Iranophobe, because the Hegemon would like to use him more actively against Russia and Iran. And although he scored certain political balls inside his country, but ... the wicked threw Turkey for safety (refusal to supply missile defense systems, engines for tanks, submarines), threw it for money (as I understand it, money was squeezed for penguins) and the Armenians very- very pricked (the same image loss). Attempted coup. Subsidence of the lyre.
    The result is that more radical elements may come to power in the elections. And it will be easier to manage such - the West will direct their activities against its (Western) enemies.
    Leaving NATO? No, because the opportunity to indulge in the Mediterranean region will end - the Greeks will gladly call the roof for operations to ensure freedom of navigation, etc. for bending Turkey. Air Force Base? Perhaps, because the consequences are predictable and scanty. Oddly enough, most likely something for formality (ostentatious), and an internal cleansing of future opponents. Istanbul is not for Erdogan, but this center is the weakest point.

    We are waiting for the support of the West for the Kurds in the "liberation struggle against the Turkish yoke"). This is a trump ace so that Erdogan does not bust. And he was warned about this, I think so.
    1. Patigorsk2020
      Patigorsk2020 April 25 2021 22: 18
      -2
      Quote: Konstantin Gogolev
      We are waiting for the support of the West for the Kurds in the "liberation struggle against the Turkish yoke"). This is a trump ace so that Erdogan does not bust. And he was warned about this, I think so.

      The Turks are knocking these Kurds down in batches. And trust me, the Kurds NEVER, NEVER, NEVER break the Turks. This mission is impossible !!!
      1. Konstantin Gogolev
        Konstantin Gogolev April 25 2021 22: 53
        -1
        Turks and Kurds have armed forces at very different levels, so what can I say here.
      2. icant007
        icant007 April 26 2021 07: 18
        0
        Quote: Patigorsk2020
        The Turks are knocking these Kurds down in batches.


        May be. But only the proportion of the Kurdish population in Turkey is steadily growing, and demographers predict in 25-30 years to reach the figure of 50 percent, against 20 percent now.
        1. Patigorsk2020
          Patigorsk2020 April 26 2021 09: 52
          -1
          Quote: icant007
          But only the proportion of the Kurdish population in Turkey is growing steadily,

          I agree, but only these Kurds are different. In Azerbaijan, half of the government is Kurds and? Turkey has no problems with the Kurds, Turkey has problems with terrorists from the PKK (Workers' Party of Kurdistan) group and believe me, there are many Armenians and Yezidis among them.

          So, the problem is not in the Kurdish population of the region, but in the terrorists.

          Turkey has created excellent opportunities for the Kurds. There is only one singer, the king of their stage, whom the whole of Turkey adores Ibrahim Tatlyses. He is a Kurd.

          Unfortunately, the media do not always tell the truth. They tell what we need to know, not what it really is.
          1. icant007
            icant007 April 26 2021 16: 59
            -1
            Quote: Patigorsk2020
            In Azerbaijan, half of the government is Kurds and?


            Something I strongly doubt it. But in any case, I'm happy for Azerbaijan)
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 25 2021 19: 22
    -1
    Turkish storm in a glass, should have been kicked out earlier!
  • Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov April 25 2021 19: 29
    +2
    Right! Yankee Go Hom!
  • Bosun61
    Bosun61 April 25 2021 20: 04
    0
    And not a bad mnogohodovochku cranked.
    Sale of S-400s to the Turks - mattress covers run over the Turks - the Turks begin to bend their fingers, no one decides for them - Turks are denied access to the F-35 + recognition of genocide - Now there is talk in Turkey about the expulsion of amers from Inzherlik.
    If finally everything succeeds, then there is no F 35 in the south, there is no amers' base either.
    Is the goal achieved? They also made money on this.
  • NF68
    NF68 April 25 2021 21: 33
    0
    Not bad idea.
  • Ruudi 34
    Ruudi 34 April 25 2021 22: 07
    0
    Resorts of Turkey for Russians will not become less attractive ... let them.
  • agoran
    agoran April 25 2021 22: 38
    0
    Tex.
    Inzherlik, there on the basis of 3 thousand military whales and about 7 thousand servants.
    And placed nuclear weapons.
    Under the agreement, the Americans do not have the right to export their nuclear weapons by land and air.
    However, some resources have leaked infa that the Americans are slowly taking out.
    Let's see what happens.
    1. Maikcg
      Maikcg April 26 2021 02: 47
      0
      So then by transport .. stuffed into the bomb bay B-1B under the dressing and chao Buratina.
  • zwlad
    zwlad April 26 2021 09: 39
    0
    It would be great if!
    But the probability is extremely small.