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"Veteran ATO": If Russia uses aviation, then this aircraft will be shot down by air defense systems of Ukraine

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In Ukraine, an active discussion of the topic of countering the so-called "Russian aggression" continues. This topic became especially active against the background of checking the combat readiness of the Russian Armed Forces. It is unlikely that at least one relatively large media outlet remained in Ukraine that would not have raised the question of what to do if Russia nevertheless "moves troops across the Ukrainian border." Among those discussing this issue are numerous politicians, political scientists, military and former military personnel, including the so-called "ATO veterans".


One of the "ATO veterans", Miroslav Gai, expressed his own version of how Ukraine should act in the event of "the transition of Russian troops to the offensive."

According to Mr. Guy, “Russia will, of course, use military Aviation". To resist the Russian Aerospace Forces, according to the "ATO veteran", it is necessary with the help of "Western partners to close the skies of Ukraine for Russian aviation."

From the statement:

But if Russia uses its aircraft, then this aircraft will be shot down by the air defense systems of Ukraine. But we also need to enlist the support of Western partners in order to close the Ukrainian sky quickly.

The former actor and TV presenter, who was retrained as an officer, added that in the event of "the offensive of Russian troops, the matter will not be limited to aircraft alone." From his statement to the Ukrainian media:

Russia will use not only its aircraft, but also missile weapons.

It should be recalled that earlier the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine stated that "the United States needs to supply anti-missile systems for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for example, Patriot." Instead of the Patriots, the United States handed over rubber boats to Kiev ...
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  1. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 25 2021 13: 40
    +56
    One of the "ATO veterans", Miroslav Gai

    In what cauldrons did the "veteran" fight?
    1. knn54
      knn54 April 25 2021 13: 43
      +24
      Vasily, he gave (most likely) concerts in the "ATO zone".
      1. hrych
        hrych April 25 2021 14: 46
        +19
        Quote: knn54
        gave (most likely) concerts

        So with them, the President in the ATO continues to give concerts. Ridiculously mincing in an armored amp, though far from the front line. And these comedians try to run like Bolt, but it still turns out to be Charlie Chaplin wassat And to those who are trying to convince that the APU is not the same APU of 2014, a colleague Oleg answered well.
        Quote: kventinasd
        For some reason I recall this video (2011), but taking into account the current capabilities of the RF Armed Forces and the state of the Armed Forces, I think their air defense will not last even a day.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 25 2021 15: 22
          +15
          Why does VO drakonit us with these "ATO veterans"?
          They already know the reaction. Maybe it's enough to quote them? negative
          1. hirurg
            hirurg April 25 2021 21: 26
            +6
            Well, you can not neighing.
            And how to live without positive emotions.
    2. jncnfdybr
      jncnfdybr April 25 2021 13: 44
      +5
      Here you are right, Apparently in the cauldrons and fought-balabol. 0
    3. xorek
      xorek April 25 2021 14: 06
      +11
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      One of the "ATO veterans", Miroslav Gai

      In what cauldrons did the "veteran" fight?

      Looks like a Boeing shot down with civilians, mistaking him for a Russian with our president .. There is such a version! ..
      And they remember the boilers and how they began to shoot down their aircraft bombing civilians in large quantities ..
      Debaltseve, etc. the shinkari have already forgotten how they fled with a squeal and hid in the bushes .. Even fled to the territory of Russia to surrender ..
      This time everything will be different! Nobody gets out of the environment ..
    4. loki565
      loki565 April 25 2021 14: 25
      +9
      Rockets need periodic maintenance and proper storage. Who and how they serve there is not known, an embarrassment may occur)))
      1. Victor Tsenin
        Victor Tsenin April 25 2021 14: 34
        +5
        In the case of the APU, embarrassment is inevitable)
      2. gurzuf
        gurzuf April 25 2021 14: 37
        +7
        What an embarrassment? Traditional explosions of storage depots for these missiles.
    5. YOUR
      YOUR April 25 2021 14: 33
      +11
      He did not fight.
      Miroslav Alexandrovich Gai - actor and head of the charitable organization "Fund" Mir and Co "
      In general, a specialist in blah blah blah and collecting dough.
      Such will tell
      1. xorek
        xorek April 25 2021 14: 37
        0
        Quote: YOUR
        He did not fight.
        Miroslav Alexandrovich Gai - actor and head of the charitable organization "Fund" Mir and Co "
        In general, a specialist in blah blah blah and collecting dough.
        Such will tell

        Like the greens blah blah .. He has such as he himself recruited into the team ... And Bandera demand blood or pogroms begin. laughing
        This is the paradox wink
        1. Popov I.P.
          Popov I.P. April 26 2021 13: 45
          +1
          Yes, in Ukraine, every contraceptive puffed up, imagines itself as an airship, and military experts and strategists (who have not served in the army for a single day) are a dime a dozen.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 25 2021 16: 25
        0
        Quote: YOUR
        Such will tell

        So it's his job to tell. In 2014, he received a grant from the Soros Foundation for this.
    6. Ru_Na
      Ru_Na April 25 2021 14: 34
      +1
      He safely escaped from these cauldrons, in order to then appear in Kueva in the guise of another "hero" and a veteran of the ATO!
      1. xorek
        xorek April 25 2021 14: 42
        0
        Quote: Ru_Na
        He safely escaped from these cauldrons, in order to then appear in Kueva in the guise of another "hero" and a veteran of the ATO!

        I read the memoirs of these fugitives ... What a terrible fear they had! And after all, the Bandera detachments are the Bandera, the bastards have quietly left and now they are again driving the recruits to the front line of the bastards ... soldier
    7. Sahalinets
      Sahalinets April 25 2021 15: 26
      +16
      He is a very prominent expert on all issues.
    8. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer April 25 2021 16: 20
      +1
      In the rear service, the Kuevo military district))) but in general, a question for the knowledgeable comrades who served in the air defense missile system - if the missiles for the S-300 air defense system have not been updated for more than 20 years, how sad can the consequences be if they try to launch them?
      1. huntsman650
        huntsman650 April 25 2021 16: 31
        +4
        Recently, at the Northern Fleet, a 1989 release was fired, of 20 pieces. only the 2nd misfired.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer April 26 2021 11: 45
          0
          Are they over 30 years old? Where was it stored and why?
          1. huntsman650
            huntsman650 April 26 2021 20: 00
            0
            There are few new ones) or not at all) for the Soviet construction of ships, some no longer produce rockets)
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer April 26 2021 21: 26
              0
              I was interested specifically in the S - 300, and not in missiles in general. Different missiles may have different warranty periods.
      2. poquello
        poquello April 25 2021 17: 07
        +1
        Quote: TermNachTER
        In the rear service, the Kuevo military district))) but in general, a question for the knowledgeable comrades who served in the air defense missile system - if the missiles for the S-300 air defense system have not been updated for more than 20 years, how sad can the consequences be if they try to launch them?

        it doesn't matter, they do not have and in the near future they will not have a built-up air defense system, those air defense systems will disassemble and destroy them, with or without patriots - these are particulars
    9. Looking for
      Looking for April 25 2021 16: 39
      +6
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      In what cauldrons did the "veteran" fight?

      rather "wiped out"
      1. poquello
        poquello April 25 2021 17: 08
        -1
        Quote: Seeker
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        In what cauldrons did the "veteran" fight?

        rather "wiped out"

        well yes, the hospital has a weekend
    10. Terenin
      Terenin April 25 2021 16: 49
      +8
      But if Russia uses its aircraft, then this aircraft will be shot down by the air defense systems of Ukraine.

      There is even nothing to answer request
      And, another Ukrainian "napole-on" just said that "two US destroyers will destroy the entire Russian fleet in one salvo ..."
      Weirdos, what about the Turkish Tomos?
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell April 25 2021 18: 37
        +5
        Quote: Terenin
        There is even nothing to answer ...
        hi it is a sin to laugh at sick people ... that they all smoke there
    11. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 April 25 2021 19: 48
      0
      In Ilovaisk
    12. Russobel
      Russobel April 26 2021 08: 46
      +1
      In what cauldrons did the "veteran" fight?

      Veteran, too honorable ...
      More precisely from which boilers did you eat up?
  2. tarakan
    tarakan April 25 2021 13: 41
    +9
    Why waste time on trifles, you can also put rubber air defenses laughing
    1. Basarev
      Basarev April 25 2021 14: 05
      +2
      Sometimes it happens that rubber boats are much more useful than anti-aircraft systems.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 25 2021 16: 21
        +3
        Without a bazaar, especially if you go fishing or hunting)))
    2. Torins
      Torins April 25 2021 14: 31
      +3
      We are waiting for the sale of rubber boats on Ukrainian Internet flea markets)) It will be like with NATO dry rations, they were tried by the whole country except for ATO participants)))
  3. Pereira
    Pereira April 25 2021 13: 42
    +4
    Not the slightest doubt. Vaughn - the Dutch stuck ...
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 April 25 2021 13: 44
    +7
    "Veteran ATO": If Russia uses aviation, then this aircraft will be shot down by air defense systems of Ukraine
    "veteran", "veteran" for the whole head ... there is no subject for discussion, except perhaps for a specialist from a specific medical institution.
    1. cniza
      cniza April 25 2021 16: 27
      +7
      And after all, they listen to such, taking for reality ...
      1. Terenin
        Terenin April 25 2021 16: 53
        +7
        Quote: cniza
        And after all, they listen to such, taking for reality ...

        Such is the flushing of fragile brains
        1. cniza
          cniza April 25 2021 17: 11
          +7
          The trouble is that some have no brains at all ...
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 April 25 2021 17: 12
          +3
          Unfortunately, few parties can be proud of the indicators of matured brains.
          The ruling class, nowhere, does not need literate, self-thinking people.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 April 25 2021 17: 09
        +2
        Reality is somewhere between delusions / fantasies on both sides, as always.
        The main thing is that we do not need such a batch now, and in general.
        1. cniza
          cniza April 25 2021 17: 12
          +7
          That's just the point, if it starts there, then it will not be 2014, but people will be crumbled ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 25 2021 17: 19
            +1
            No, I don't want to guess.
            Boom hope that some people will not want to chew their ties.
            1. cniza
              cniza April 25 2021 17: 19
              +7
              There are hopes, but it is not the necklace makers who decide ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 25 2021 17: 23
                +1
                The herd of the rabid is not so large ... and the rest, do not have a special desire to play in the box.
                1. cniza
                  cniza April 25 2021 17: 27
                  +7
                  Normal people understand everything and their enthusiasm quickly ends ...
  5. Free Island
    Free Island April 25 2021 13: 47
    +11
    There is a typo in the text. Not a "ATO veteran", but a disabled ATO. The whole head is disabled
  6. RoTTor
    RoTTor April 25 2021 13: 53
    +7
    stoned filthy, eating up in a breach show on stoned Poroshenko TV-analys
  7. Prax1
    Prax1 April 25 2021 13: 54
    -30%
    If you remember Georgia and our aviation losses. It will be much worse with Ukraine.
    1. jncnfdybr
      jncnfdybr April 25 2021 14: 01
      +11
      There were losses. And who helped in this, everyone knows the same. And those who have helped more than once will backfire. But the Russian army has become different. DO NOT equate.)
    2. xorek
      xorek April 25 2021 14: 14
      +4
      Quote: Prax1
      If you remember Georgia and our aviation losses. It will be much worse with Ukraine.

      Iskander you will accept laughing ? We, as Israel, will begin to soak from afar, for example from the outside (I will not say with what, but supersonic and calibers).
      Accept? I think you won't even have time to get scared at headquarters and other control centers ..
      And then it's a matter of technology .. Donbass militias have been waiting for a long time and know the main goals
      How do you like this? soldier
    3. BARKAS
      BARKAS April 25 2021 14: 16
      +3
      Everything is right with Ukraine much worse.
      1. businessv
        businessv April 25 2021 15: 07
        +3
        Quote: BARKAS
        Everything is right with Ukraine much worse.
        A small mistake - not with Ukraine, but Ukraine will be much worse than Georgia, in view of the fact that too many disgusting things have already been said and done towards Russia!
        1. xorek
          xorek April 25 2021 15: 23
          +1
          Quote: businessv
          Quote: BARKAS
          Everything is right with Ukraine much worse.
          A small mistake - not with Ukraine, but Ukraine will be much worse than Georgia, in view of the fact that too many disgusting things have already been said and done towards Russia!

          And also these Nazi symbols and punitive operations .. There will be a serious mix if this National Battalion of the Armed Forces is taken into encirclement ..
          The militias are very serious about it. negative
          1. businessv
            businessv April 25 2021 15: 32
            +2
            Quote: xorek
            The militias are very serious

            Yes, I think they won't take prisoners there!
    4. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 25 2021 14: 23
      +10
      On the fifth day of the war, Russian troops were 60 kilometers from Tbilisi, and stopped only because Sarkozy very much asked Medvedev not to finish off the recumbent. Naturally, Russian aviation had complete air supremacy and struck throughout Georgia, suppressing its air defense.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 25 2021 14: 55
        +1
        Quote: Roma-1977
        On the fifth day of the war, Russian troops were 60 kilometers from Tbilisi, and stopped only because Sarkozy asked Medvedev not to finish off the lying ones.

        Medvedev? Yes, this dwarf pissed into his pants out of fear .. Putin prehal and kicked him and the army .. The assault is urgent! Tank columns this was for the media and then they collected as much as they could. howl in the media began to horror ...
        And this photo is significant !!!

        This guy is alive, somewhere in Yakutia he lives and was very modest .. For a long time he denied that it was not him .. and leave me alone ..
        1. Kapkan
          Kapkan April 25 2021 15: 12
          +6
          something like this ...
          1. xorek
            xorek April 25 2021 15: 58
            +2
            Quote: Kapkan
            something like this ...

            Thanks for the info .. The main thing is that it's alive! We've been looking for a hero for a long time ..
          2. Roma 1977
            Roma 1977 April 26 2021 07: 46
            +2
            If I am not mistaken, in the Turkic languages ​​"Tasbolat" means "hard as a stone".
        2. prior
          prior April 26 2021 08: 59
          0
          Guys, what else did no one recognize in this Yakut Boshirov except me?
          And Petrov covers the Urals behind the wheel. laughing
      2. businessv
        businessv April 25 2021 15: 02
        +5
        Quote: Roma-1977
        On the fifth day of the war, Russian troops were 60 kilometers from Tbilisi, and stopped only because Sarkozy asked Medvedev not to finish off the lying ones.
        And this was the main mistake that influenced today! If they reached Tbilisi and acted with Ssakoshvili according to the laws of wartime, there would be no Maidans, no Gutters, no war at hand!
    5. Charik
      Charik April 25 2021 15: 08
      0
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ixy3TeezSY про тебя
      1. businessv
        businessv April 26 2021 11: 59
        0
        Quote: Charik
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ixy3TeezSY про тебя

        Poke your wife in the navel, smart guy! laughing
  8. kventinasd
    kventinasd April 25 2021 13: 55
    +9
    But if Russia uses its aircraft, then this aircraft will be shot down by the air defense systems of Ukraine.

    For some reason I recall this video (2011), but taking into account the current capabilities of the RF Armed Forces and the state of the Armed Forces, I think their air defense will not last even a day.
    1. hrych
      hrych April 25 2021 14: 52
      +5
      Quote: kventinasd
      their air defense won't last a day

      good good good Berkut also did not mention that, in addition to dealing with the anti-aircraft missile defense system, one must also avoid suppressing one's own air defense systems. Which will be the first to become targets for anti-radar missiles, and of the same Iskander and Caliber. And not for nothing, when the Russian Federation deployed troops taking them in pincers, a plaintive voice arose about the supply of Patriots, etc. laughing
  9. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR April 25 2021 13: 58
    +17
    One thing I cannot understand, the Ukrainians have been repeating for 7 years that they are fighting in the Donbass with Russian troops. Then why would Russian troops invade and cross the border with Ukraine if they are already there? If Ukraine is waiting for Russia's invasion of Donbass, then who are those who are already there and with whom Ukraine is fighting there?
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 25 2021 14: 19
        +5
        Quote: xorek
        It is not the Ukrainians who say it, but the Jews in power in Kiev and their masters overseas ..


        War is a mother to them ..
        1. businessv
          businessv April 25 2021 14: 57
          +1
          Quote: xorek
          War is a mother to them ..

          Excellent selection of photos! good
          1. xorek
            xorek April 25 2021 15: 12
            -1
            Quote: businessv
            Quote: xorek
            War is a mother to them ..

            Excellent selection of photos! good

            I try Vadim and get paid for it .. laughing soldier
            There are such persons in many countries of the world ... hi
        2. ironic
          ironic April 25 2021 16: 49
          -7
          There is no need to spread blood libel. Kolomoisky has long been out of work and his financial activity is being investigated in Israel in connection with the Israeli banks where he transferred money, and Poroshenko is a Ukrainian and has a relationship to the Jews like a French ski bath.
          This is your mother's racism and blood libel.
    2. Yura
      Yura April 25 2021 14: 25
      +5
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      If Ukraine is waiting for Russia's invasion of Donbas, then who are those who are already there and with whom Ukraine is fighting there?

      Virtual Russian aggression, virtual war with Russia, virtual economy, virtual industry and manufacturing, what else can a virtual brain come up with for a real belly, which requires real food, which requires real money. There is no real money of their own, and the requests are unrealistic. Virtual solidarity and assistance from the United States and Europe is not a guarantee of getting real money for free, which you have to earn yourself.
    3. Aleksandr123
      Aleksandr123 April 25 2021 17: 04
      +1
      "who is already there and with whom is Ukraine fighting there?"
      - "But according to new intelligence
      We fought with ourselves. "(BG)
      This is repeated to them, but, unfortunately, they do not understand.
  10. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 25 2021 13: 59
    +2
    These air defense systems will be destroyed from afar.
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 25 2021 14: 01
    +5
    When the censor was not in the public domain, there were hundreds of thousands of such analysts. Since then, nothing has changed, the same nonsense.
  12. Alexander Betonkin
    Alexander Betonkin April 25 2021 14: 01
    +6
    Miroslav Gai - since November 2013 on the Maidan, in August 2014 created a "volunteer" organization. Where he "fought" is not known, but an expert on air defense of Ukraine.
    In 2014, he called for "dumping" everyone from Russia to Ukraine. request
    Guy's Message
    1. businessv
      businessv April 25 2021 14: 55
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Betonkin
      In 2014, he called for "dumping" everyone from Russia to Ukraine.
      Thanks for the info! These are d @ beels and form public opinion in the Square today.
      1. Alexander Betonkin
        Alexander Betonkin April 25 2021 16: 50
        +2
        His answer to the correspondent:
        Elena: How will the tragedy in Kerch affect the attitude of the Crimeans towards the occupation authorities, towards "Crimea-our"?
        Miroslav Gai: Unfortunately, the tragedy in Kerch is not the only one ... The reason for this is the frenzied propaganda and aggression that pour from TV screens and social networks every day, that militarization of moods, everyday rudeness, the dominance of law enforcement agencies, the merger of security officials with civilian power , those unprecedented landings for reposts and freedom of speech, the destruction of free media in Russia, the glorification of brute physical force, propaganda among young people of war under the guise of patriotic lessons ... Therefore, the Russian state is losing control in all spheres of the country's life. Have you noticed that the 14th bridge fell in Russia in a month? 14th !!! This suggests that there is a certain loss of control. Look at the environmental disasters that occurred in Crimea, the mass plantings of schoolchildren at rallies, the fire in a shopping center where children were closed to die in a burning cinema ... All this suggests that the state system and society are not healthy.
  13. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 25 2021 14: 03
    +7
    One of the "ATO veterans", Miroslav Gai, expressed his own version of how Ukraine should act in the event of "the transition of Russian troops to the offensive."

    Guy Miroslav Alexandrovich
    In 1998 he entered the Kiev Institute of Theater Arts them. Karpenko-Kary. After graduation for 15 years taught acting and TV presenter skills
    After the events on the Maidan, he began active volunteer activities.
    In August 2014, he created and headed the Mir and Co Foundation, a charitable non-profit volunteer organization, which is included in the list of verified structures. [1] In November 2014, the foundation's activities were awarded a grant from the George Soros International Renaissance Foundation. The Mir and Co Foundation delivers food products, ammunition, clothing and footwear, necessary equipment, devices for military units and battalions to the ATO zone. It also provides medical supplies to the wounded soldiers in hospitals, helps inmates of orphanages and internally displaced persons.
    In February 2016, he graduated from the first experimental training course for reserve officers for ATO participants at the Ivan Chernyakhovsky National University of Defense of Ukraine and received the specialty of a commander of mechanized units and the first officer rank

    and the opinion of this brow should be taken seriously and discussed? !!!!
    1. gurzuf
      gurzuf April 25 2021 14: 44
      +1
      Gascons (svidomy) are academicians from birth.
    2. Charik
      Charik April 25 2021 15: 11
      0
      the same jester as a jelly-nightingale
  14. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 25 2021 14: 06
    -16%
    The fact is that our Generals are not very decisive for your happiness, they pissed away everything
  15. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev April 25 2021 14: 08
    +2
    Does this idiot understand anything about air defense?
    1. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 April 25 2021 14: 48
      +2
      They already have experience, they shot down a Boeing Indonesia.
      Even earlier, a Russian plane over the Black Sea.
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 April 25 2021 23: 16
        +1
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        shot down a Boeing Indonesia

        Including Malaysian, two
        1. Blacksmith 55
          Blacksmith 55 April 26 2021 08: 20
          +1
          The demon has beguiled, I beg your pardon.
          1. IL-18
            IL-18 April 26 2021 21: 59
            +1
            So Boeing and earlier Tu-154 are behind them. !!!!!!!!
  16. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 25 2021 14: 26
    +3
    Wouldn't it be more correct to call this "wiped" a member of the champion team in drape? And even then, if he appeared near the front line, it did not take long and ran away from there, sparkling with aphedron. We also have such a "wiped out", even the order-bearer - yurkiss, or something ... I don't remember the nicknames of the mongrels.
  17. International Observer
    International Observer April 25 2021 14: 26
    +3
    If Russia uses aviation, then this aviation will be shot down by the air defense systems of Ukraine ...

    ... if Russia uses aviation, the best option for you is to take the Russian flag, and more, go out of the city, stick the flag in the ground and gather around it in silence until Russia starts using the airborne forces, ... maybe then you will survive. In any case, there is no respect for you, so there will be no mercy at all.
  18. International Observer
    International Observer April 25 2021 14: 34
    -1
    Instead of the Patriots, the United States handed over rubber boats to Kiev ...

    ... along with the boats of the United States, Ukraine also received caps and a lot of Vaseline in banks ... so that it would not hurt so much ... over the years spent in vain.
  19. huntsman650
    huntsman650 April 25 2021 14: 40
    -9
    It will definitely not be an easy walk. Many planes were shot down in Georgia even out of the blue!
    1. businessv
      businessv April 25 2021 14: 50
      +1
      Quote: huntsman650
      Many planes were shot down in Georgia even out of the blue!

      Today, a slightly different situevina, there are kamikaze drones against the radar, and most importantly, I am sure that there is already a coherent DB strategy.
      1. huntsman650
        huntsman650 April 25 2021 16: 33
        -6
        As in Georgia, when there were losses, then they began to destroy the radar))).
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 April 25 2021 17: 38
          0
          Quote: huntsman650
          As in Georgia, when there were losses, then they began to destroy the radar))).

          In Georgia, A) did not know about the transfer of beeches from Ukraine, B) did not have satellite reconnaissance (almost), C) NATO radar from Turkey helped to correct the Ukrainian-Georgian air defense.

          Now, in the case of Ukraine: A) all of Ukraine is viewed by our radars and satellites, B) the air defense that they now have left will be covered with Iskander, Caliber and other X-guns from strategists, and only then they will use front-line aviation , C) NATO, of course, will add data from its radars, but in this situation, it will not help the "ruin warriors" much.
          1. huntsman650
            huntsman650 April 25 2021 23: 03
            -6
            Samoli flew, air defense in ambush, radar on heating, notification from NATO, with arrival in the zone, at high and work on targets. We worked it out and drove off.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 April 27 2021 00: 42
              0
              Quote: huntsman650
              air defense in ambush

              And this air defense was tracked from the satellite and covered with Iskanders or calibers as soon as it turned around ... And the "samoli" calmly fly and bomb ...
              1. huntsman650
                huntsman650 April 27 2021 08: 09
                -1
                Well, if this happens), oh, if it is fog, night, etc. etc.? Here they made an excuse about Georgia, they did not know that they had beeches))). Does everyone know about air defense?
                The "Kremlin" does not have enough political will to use calibers and Iskander. Ours will be helping with artillery from behind the fence!
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 April 28 2021 00: 35
                  0
                  Quote: huntsman650
                  Well, if this happens), oh, if it is fog, night, etc. etc.?

                  Satellites and over-the-horizon radars somehow spit on "fog and night" - for modern means of detection this is not a hindrance at all.
                  Quote: huntsman650
                  They made an excuse about Georgia, they didn't know that they had beeches))). Does everyone know about air defense?

                  More than, even pictures of the exact locations of the units were published - remember, after the crash of the Boeing, there were very good pictures of the battery of the APU-shnyh beeches just in the area of ​​the tragedy ...
                  Quote: huntsman650
                  The "Kremlin" does not have enough political will to use calibers and Iskander.

                  If that is enough, for the most part it is enough to demonstrate intentions - the troops have brought a little to the border and in Kiev the sewage system is already unable to cope ...
  20. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 25 2021 14: 41
    +1
    ... and if it doesn’t use it, it won’t be knocked down
  21. businessv
    businessv April 25 2021 14: 47
    0
    Instead of the Patriots, the United States handed over rubber boats to Kiev ...
    Now the mattresses have to be transferred to the Square instead of the next batch of ATGMs, another rubber product (No. 2). wink
  22. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock April 25 2021 14: 49
    +3
    Laughter is laughter, but there are many such grieving people in Ukraine.
    God forbid, of course, but if you really have to take this territory, then it will be necessary exclusively according to the Croatian option.
    For all this infection will be repainted in an instant and they will be the first to run to greet the liberators with flowers. And then we will get hundreds of "kravchuk" in the authorities and in other leading positions, who will speak to the public for the "Russian world", but at the opportunity "they will throw a grenade from the balcony."
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 April 25 2021 17: 40
      +1
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      For all this infection will be repainted in an instant and they will be the first to run to greet the liberators with flowers. And then we will get hundreds of "kravchuk" in the authorities and in other leading positions, who will speak to the public for the "Russian world", but at the opportunity "they will throw a grenade from the balcony."

      Nothing, the FSB, nevertheless, it is not in vain to eat bread, hell, and many have already very well lit up in the field of rabid anti-Russian rhetoric so that you will not be repainted. But in Canada, Israel and the United States and a little Georgia, in this case, there will be a surge in immigration)))
  23. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 April 25 2021 14: 49
    +2
    Air Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have somehow been modernized since Soviet times?
    1. DominickS
      DominickS April 25 2021 16: 26
      0
      Nothing was really modernized for them. Of the more or less serious, the skippers only have the ancient S-300, with crumbling radars, on probably hundreds of guarantors, klystrons, the working parameters of which are probably known to those who need it.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 April 25 2021 17: 41
        0
        And on top of this, a bunch of beech complexes, quite workable, were transferred to Georgia at one time, where they were successfully captured / bombed by our ...
  24. Mikhail Maximov
    Mikhail Maximov April 25 2021 14: 50
    +1
    Don't whine to the General, it won't help.
  25. Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov April 25 2021 14: 58
    +5
    Once again, it's annoying to see on the pages of VO, another bunch, another small-gram, farm shepherd-strategist ...
    The frequency with which publications about the morbid fantasies of servile warriors appear, allow us to speak of a certain valve for releasing steam of indignation and irritation of some of the readers of the VO.
    In this case, let's organize a separate section, for example, "news from the fields", where all the brain-breaking theories and all the victorious reports of all those who have already defeated Russia or are going to defeat it in their near future will be posted. The right is to create such a "zoo of victors and offenders of the Russian Federation." And it will be easier for readers to navigate. And the crap will be immediately visible ...
    All the best!
  26. Gunner
    Gunner April 25 2021 15: 10
    +1
    Not well, the Americans are a separate conversation, they dropped lollipops from the plane to their soldiers during the Korean War instead of mortar shells, than the Ukrainians are better?
  27. jovanni
    jovanni April 25 2021 15: 29
    +2
    "Veteran ATO": If Russia uses aviation, then this aircraft will be shot down by air defense systems of Ukraine

    If Russia decides to fight, Ukraine's air defense systems will be destroyed before Russian aviation appears over it ...
  28. MsG363
    MsG363 April 25 2021 15: 34
    +1
    What else is something left working? Smotryka, there is even something to destroy. It is even possible to show philanthropy, to warn in advance, but without a specific time for the attack, so that they can scatter. Otherwise, they may raise a howl about the murdered people, they will become
  29. Sailor
    Sailor April 25 2021 15: 36
    +1
    It’s interesting what kind of air defense they were shot down, it was during the Soviet era there was air defense, now the remnants on which they will hit in the first place.
  30. Ivan Ivanov_27
    Ivan Ivanov_27 April 25 2021 15: 39
    +3
    Veteran ATO!
    Russia will not use paper airplanes in Ukraine! You can be calm.
  31. Napayz
    Napayz April 25 2021 15: 46
    0
    enlist the support of Western partners

    Is that such
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  33. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich April 25 2021 15: 49
    0
    air defense systems of Ukraine
    ... that you begged from Germany, or are they the Patriots that you bought from the USA?
  34. German Titov
    German Titov April 25 2021 15: 52
    +1
    Vasily, in the "ATO zone" he gave
    There was no need to specify about the concerts. One also sang "tenor" in ATO. Then Svidomnya howled at him. A sniper is a necessary thing.
  35. Stepan S
    Stepan S April 25 2021 15: 57
    +1
    One of the "ATO veterans", Miroslav Gai

    It is necessary to immediately put in the heading what kind of ATO has been erased. Whoever knows him will not read, as this patriot always carries complete Russophobic nonsense.
  36. Stas Sv
    Stas Sv April 25 2021 16: 11
    +1
    But if Russia uses its aircraft, then this aircraft will be shot down by the air defense systems of Ukraine. But we also need to enlist the support of Western partners in order to close the Ukrainian sky quickly.


    The delirium of another madman wassat
  37. cniza
    cniza April 25 2021 16: 24
    +4
    It should be recalled that earlier the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine stated that "the United States needs to supply anti-missile systems for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for example, Patriot." Instead of the Patriots, the United States handed over rubber boats to Kiev ...


    It's good that the boats, and not the item # 2 ...
  38. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 25 2021 16: 27
    0
    I'm starting to repeat myself, but what to do?
  39. tralmaster
    tralmaster April 25 2021 16: 46
    0
    Where do such stupid people come from. He's a veteran of what, probably a toilet bowl. Dill is thirty years behind reality. Cover up air defense and do not shoot once. And Zelya will not even have time to hear about it.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 26 2021 04: 00
      0
      Quote: tralmaster
      Cover up air defense and do not shoot once. And Zelya will not even have time to hear about it.

      Well ... let's say, a terribly sophisticated (for those times) F-117, was shot down over Yugoslavia by a very ancient C-125 complex. So it's not about that at all. And about the fact that the article itself draws exclusively on jaundice, in the format of "British scientists". And to discuss such "news" in all seriousness is worthy only of couch "generals" who have never sat in the fire control cabin of the air defense missile system.
      If you are interested in the opinion of a specialist, then, of course, Ukrainian complexes can shoot down at least one or two planes, although they will be immediately and immediately destroyed. Although it is unlikely that it will come to this, since the understanding that the enemy has relatively effective air defense systems in place implies serious reconnaissance actions on our part. Unmanned aerial vehicles, space, radio instruments, drg, agents, etc. And there is no doubt that it is the air defense systems that will be destroyed first of all.
  40. January
    January April 25 2021 16: 58
    0
    "Can your tiger eat 100kg of meat?"
    Can he be able to, but who can give him? "
  41. January
    January April 25 2021 17: 05
    +3
    We will close the sky with air defense forces, which will be given to us, then we will move the tanks that will be presented to us, and the troops that will be sent to us will follow ...
    SO LET'S POSSIBLE !!!
    1. migsu
      migsu April 25 2021 18: 32
      +1
      Exactly so! .. we will bend the fingers ...
      1. January
        January April 27 2021 14: 31
        0
        We will. Ipalka.
  42. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 April 25 2021 18: 09
    +1
    Of course, I admit that the Ukrainian air defense, together with the Air Force, can shoot down several dozen aircraft. But this is far from fatal for the Russian Aerospace Forces, and they still will not be able to fulfill their task of avoiding attacks on their territory. It is obvious that already the first day will not survive all the largest warehouses with military equipment.
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  45. Adimius38
    Adimius38 April 25 2021 18: 57
    +1
    Of course, some air defense systems of Ukraine may pose a threat to Russian aviation, but the first shot from these air defense positions will leave a scorched desert.
  46. spectr
    spectr April 25 2021 19: 59
    +1
    But if Russia uses its aircraft, then this aircraft will be shot down by the air defense systems of Ukraine. But we also need to enlist the support of Western partners in order to close the Ukrainian sky quickly.

    I wonder if he even knows the characteristics of the Ukrainian tricycles and beeches in order to make such statements?
  47. Maikcg
    Maikcg April 25 2021 22: 48
    0
    Actually, this is the very interview
  48. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 26 2021 00: 13
    0
    it is necessary with the help of "Western partners to close the skies of Ukraine for Russian aviation."
    Yes, you need to go to the market, buy a rooster, and at least see what the brains look like from him. Recently, all, all the brainless in Ukraine have already expressed how they would have done with Russia. and all like: "Yes, that's how we saw the Russians, so we immediately ran, but if they didn't catch up, we would have given them that, but they are weaklings, they couldn't even catch up with us." laughing laughing
  49. rotfuks
    rotfuks April 26 2021 00: 35
    +1
    if a grandmother has a tiny penis, then she will be a grandfather.
  50. bukhach
    bukhach April 26 2021 01: 33
    -1
    Quote: Sahalinets
    He is a very prominent expert on all issues.

    He threw an interesting forecast to his friends, I wonder how they thanked him? He saved them from chaos.