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Official Kabul intends to keep the weapons and military equipment of the Americans for themselves when the US withdraws from Afghanistan

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Official Kabul intends to keep the weapons and military equipment of the Americans for themselves when the US withdraws from Afghanistan

Official Kabul hopes that the American military contingent and NATO countries, when leaving Afghanistan, will leave the Afghan army with military equipment and weapon to confront the militants of the Taliban movement (banned in Russia).


The Afghan Defense Ministry is counting on the military equipment of Western countries, which will remain after they leave the country. According to a military official, weapons and equipment are "necessary" for the Afghan army to fight the Taliban. Kabul expects the US and NATO to leave everything to government forces.

At the moment, it is not known how the command of the US mission will react to such a request, because there has not yet been an official appeal from the Afghan authorities, while only intentions to make it are expressed. But in Kabul, they are already saying that the authorities will ask the United States to officially transfer weapons and equipment to them. But there is no information about whether the Americans themselves are ready to leave their weapons in Afghanistan.

It is possible that the United States will leave to the Afghans some of the weapons left in the country after the end of the operation of the international forces in 2014, but the US military equipment in Afghanistan is small and it is equipped with technologies that the Americans are unlikely to want to transfer into the hands of the Afghans.

Meanwhile, a number of Western experts have already stated that after the US withdraws from Afghanistan, the government will not last long without foreign support and will be ousted by the Taliban. Whether with American technology or without it, the government forces will not retain power, especially since the Taliban actually rule in half of the provinces.
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  1. Dizel200
    Dizel200 April 23 2021 14: 25
    +2
    It won't help you
    1. NIKN
      NIKN April 23 2021 14: 29
      +6
      Whoever is entrusted with drugs to protect that and the equipment will be left.
      1. For example
        For example April 23 2021 14: 48
        -2
        The strongest rules.

        There is no other way.
        Now the Americans are the strongest in Afghanistan.
        They rule.

        Mattresses will go away, others will rule.

        Who exactly will show time.
      2. Genry
        Genry April 23 2021 15: 03
        0
        Quote: NIKNN
        Whoever is entrusted with drugs to protect that and the equipment will be left.

        The states are leaving Afghanistan not because they want to. They urgently need troops in Europe, otherwise there may be disobedience from their assertive policy.
        And they really need equipment in Europe ...
        1. bayard
          bayard April 23 2021 22: 16
          +2
          Quote: Genry
          ... They urgently need troops in Europe, otherwise disobedience may occur there.

          They urgently need troops in Southeast Asia, where China is consistently squeezing out its living space. Especially against the backdrop of China's desire to regain Taiwan in the near future.
      3. Patigorsk2020
        Patigorsk2020 April 23 2021 15: 06
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        Quote: NIKNN
        Whoever is entrusted with drugs to protect that and the equipment will be left.

        Nicely written))))))))))) the technique is unlikely to be left, they will sell it.
      4. Kaman
        Kaman April 23 2021 15: 15
        -1
        Usually, after the withdrawal of troops from the area of ​​hostilities, the Americans transfer part of the worn-out equipment to the Allies at the cost of delivery. Usually the technique is quite worn out, for example, out of 2-3 Hummers, one is obtained.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 23 2021 17: 39
          -1
          Quote: Kaman
          Usually, after the withdrawal of troops from the area of ​​hostilities, the Americans transfer part of the worn-out equipment to the Allies at the cost of delivery. Usually the technique is quite worn out, for example, out of 2-3 Hummers, one is obtained.
          Here they have a fork drawn.
          They will not leave the Kabulis people in a pancake in a year or a year and a half. In this case, the mattresses run the risk of lowering their shabby image even more, as they threw their allies to be torn apart. Other "allies" will ponder.
          Leave it - then the Kabulis will be rolled into the same pancake, but in one and a half, two years and all the equipment left behind (which will not be burned) will go to the Taliban, which will be perceived as an unintentional weapon of terrorists and will again hit the image of mattresses. Whatever one may say, but any decision will be against the United States.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan April 24 2021 12: 40
            +1
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Leave it - then the Kabulis will be rolled into the same pancake, but in a year and a half, two years and all the equipment left behind (which will not be burned) will go to the Taliban

            rather about a year anyway. American collaborators have no one to fight. ideas capable of motivating someone to defend this American bastard, they do not have and are not foreseen. The "fighting efficiency" of the Afghan government units is already covered with glory.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky April 24 2021 14: 54
              +1
              Quote: SanichSan
              rather about a year anyway. American collaborators have no one to fight. ideas capable of motivating someone to defend this American bastard, they do not have and are not foreseen. The "fighting efficiency" of the Afghan government units is already covered with glory.

              I agree that I gave them enough time and the capture of Kabul will take place in a much shorter time, but the essence is the same - no matter how the mattresses act, it will turn against them. yes
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan April 24 2021 15: 32
                0
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                no matter what mattresses do, it will turn against them.

                well, not that directly against them. they would leave from there, and the rest of the NATO members immediately realized that without the United States it smelled like burning and began to roll up.
                the pro-American authorities should think about how to dump with the occupiers in the convoy, and not about leaving the tanks for them .... this is with regard to the upcoming events.
                in a long time period it is more interesting. Alqaida and ISIS have already grown on the basis of the Taliban (of course, banned on the territory of the Russian Federation! wassat ). what will grow up there now remains a question, but in the long term this new formation, which has absorbed the experience of its predecessor, can do a lot and not only in the United States.
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky April 24 2021 18: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  Alqaida and ISIS have already grown on the basis of the Taliban (of course, banned on the territory of the Russian Federation!). what will grow there now, remains a question, but in the future this new formation, which has absorbed the experience of its predecessor, can do a lot of fun and not only in the USA

                  Here, as if everything is a little different. Alkaida was created with mattresses to counter the USSR in Afghanistan, i.e. much earlier than the Taliban. The Taliban are a product of Pakistan. ISIS was created in Iraq and its backbone were Iraqi officers and military personnel who were left out of work after the defeat in the "Desert Storm". When signing an agreement with the Taliban, the mattresses set the condition that they would not allow Alqaida to turn around, and the Taliban considered the ISIS to be the same invaders as the mattresses and kicked out at every opportunity, therefore their grouping in Afghanistan is estimated from 3 to 5 bayonets. The mattresses did not manage to form any significant force against the Taliban out of these bearded men. As for whether what will grow there now, then it may well turn out to be a merger into the Taliban Alqaida, or into the Alkaid Taliban, which will cut out the pro-American Kabulis and ISIS. In short, that still snake tangle, which, as you rightly noted - (of course, prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation! Wassat)
                  1. Sanichsan
                    Sanichsan April 24 2021 18: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    it may well turn out to be a merger into the Taliban alqaid, or into the alqaid taliban

                    yes, perhaps this is the most likely option, but it means pro-Iranian Afghanistan.
                    1. Nyrobsky
                      Nyrobsky April 24 2021 19: 15
                      +1
                      Quote: SanichSan
                      yes, perhaps this is the most likely option, but it means pro-Iranian Afghanistan.

                      There, two main players are drawn - Iran and Pakistan + China can come in with money because he has not bad relations with both, but in this wedding we can probably only look after and react to the fact that the Taliban would not get into Central Asia. The care of mattresses will definitely be marked by the stirring of regional countries and movement throughout the region. hi
      5. xorek
        xorek April 23 2021 16: 14
        0
        Quote: NIKNN
        Whoever is entrusted with drugs to protect that and the equipment will be left.

        Briefly and to the point Nikolay! Plus you ..
    2. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 23 2021 14: 32
      +2
      It is necessary in the sense of the near future without the US and NATO in Afghanistan - to cover Tajikistan and the Fergana Valley from the penetration of the Mujahideen there. Otherwise, Kyrgyzstan will have to be scratched out of the tenacious hands of the bearded, and no one is looking for Ishil there, but it is clearly there too.
      1. For example
        For example April 23 2021 14: 50
        +1
        Quote: mojohed2012
        ... without the US and NATO in Afghanistan, to cover Tajikistan and the Fergana Valley from the Mujahideen penetration there ...


        Do you think the United States provides peace in Kyrgyzstan?
        Is the USA now covering the Fergana Valley? negative

        Do you believe it yourself? fool

        I found noble peacekeepers. good wassat
        1. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 April 23 2021 15: 18
          0
          In my opinion, our border guards were removed from Tajikistan in vain.
          But the situation will worsen on the border with Afghanistan, and sooner or later it will be necessary to resolve the issues of penetration there. And there will be no time for laughter and smirks.
    3. svp67
      svp67 April 23 2021 14: 50
      +1
      Quote: Dizel200
      It won't help you

      It depends on what. Someone will have time to "weld" well with this weapon and go beyond the cordon with the money received ...
    4. credo
      credo April 23 2021 14: 51
      +1
      Quote: Dizel200
      It won't help you

      It seems that they realistically assess their strength and rely on American weapons exclusively as a commodity for which they will exchange the preservation of their lives with the Taliban.
      1. halpat
        halpat April 23 2021 16: 02
        0
        Quote: credo
        Quote: Dizel200
        It won't help you

        It seems that they realistically assess their strength and rely on American weapons exclusively as a commodity for which they will exchange the preservation of their lives with the Taliban.

        Why would the Taliban ... buy, change? They will simply cut the current leadership like rams.
        And they will become the official power. And all the scrap metal will be theirs.
    5. RealPilot
      RealPilot April 23 2021 16: 06
      +1
      There are many options.
      For example, there are American PMCs there. Several thousand people. Not a word is said about their withdrawal, these are fighters of the "gray zone", mercenaries. And Eric Prince will be very happy to receive weapons, as will a number of commanders close to the Washington establishment.

      Secondly, the removal of equipment by military transport aviation is an extremely costly undertaking. For one Abrams with its 60+ tons, a whole aircraft will need no less than a Globmaster S-17 (max. Payload 77,5 tons). And armored cars, a rifleman, ammunition ... It's easier to leave a lot. To whom - another question.

      Part, of course, can be transferred to the Poles and other "Tabaki" to Europe, self-pickup. Or with payment.

      Again, transferring to the Afghan side can be very beneficial. If military property was removed from the government's disposal as a result of its overthrow by the Taliban, and de facto fell into the hands of PMCs or controlled militants, then its discovery in Syria or other countries after the sale will not cast a shadow on the "world stronghold of democracy" ...
      1. credo
        credo April 23 2021 17: 15
        -1
        It can also be sold to Pakistan, India or Uzbekistan.
      2. ycuce234-san
        ycuce234-san April 23 2021 19: 49
        0
        It is enough to take out the key parts to the aviation (engine, weapons).
        Afghanistan's railways now provide an opportunity for export to Takjikistan, where a new American base is planned.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 April 23 2021 14: 27
    +1
    Official Kabul intends to keep the weapons and military equipment of the Americans for themselves when the US withdraws from Afghanistan
    They are unlikely to hope that this will help them to stay in power ... so there is something else, but what ???
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 23 2021 14: 30
      +2
      So the Taliban will be sold more expensive territory and warehouses of equipment and weapons with them. The Taliban will enter Kabul without a fight.
      There, only on the Americans, everything was fragile in the sense of their puppet government.
      And the Taliban are a movement that has embraced the masses of the population tired of the intervention.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 23 2021 14: 37
        0
        A very likely scenario.
  3. Skay
    Skay April 23 2021 14: 28
    +1
    On consumables and repairs will be ripped apart ...
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 23 2021 14: 41
      0
      I suppose the states will take out the Abrams with them, but they will leave the MRAPs and hummers very worn out. The amers' helicopters never took root there ...
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 23 2021 14: 29
    0
    They will not leave, the Taliban will get over everything in time!
  5. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan April 23 2021 14: 32
    +1
    Yeah, keep Afghans' pockets wider, now the United States will leave you technicians)))

    A few rusty Hummers and few small arms at most.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 23 2021 14: 39
      0
      Well, they will leave the US equipment and weapons, but we know that the Afghans respect Soviet weapons. It is unpretentious, reliable and familiar.
      And then M-16, M-4, M-60 (machine gun) and other M-21 (all of the stale ones may be left), but over time all this will dissolve and the Soviet / Chinese will remain in clones.
  6. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 23 2021 14: 41
    0
    What they cannot take out will be left behind. And not free.
  7. bald
    bald April 23 2021 14: 43
    0
    For drugs, they are more likely to leave a certain part to the Taliban. And the connections will definitely remain.
  8. Tagan
    Tagan April 23 2021 14: 45
    +1
    "Meanwhile, a number of Western experts have already stated that after the US leaves Afghanistan, the government will not last long without foreign support."

    Well, this is understandable. Through backbreaking work, the logistics for the transportation and sale of gerych and all that. On donkeys, you will not accelerate much. Military transport workers are different.
  9. Tagan
    Tagan April 23 2021 14: 49
    0
    If you ask very well (as if by chance stepping on some sensitive organ), then you can probably get consent
  10. Alexander Betonkin
    Alexander Betonkin April 23 2021 15: 47
    0
    Afghan Defense Ministry counts on military equipment of Western countries

    They can count on anything, but they will only leave them old or what they cannot take away due to repairs. But in general, the Americans are unlikely to leave everything from there. Some groups will remain.
  11. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 April 23 2021 16: 01
    -1
    Both the Afghan provincial and the Syrian are not famous for their resilience in battles (well, with rare exceptions), so leave them the equipment before the first battle. And then banned groups are dissected on such trophies.
  12. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer April 23 2021 17: 44
    +1
    I remember an old Soviet anecdote about an elephant "Moget that, he can, currents, who can give him))) mattress covers are not so stupid, they perfectly understand that very soon all these weapons and equipment will get to the Taliban, except that they will break the clumsy ruchenki zhysnykiv Kabul)))
  13. Suraikin.Aleksandr
    Suraikin.Aleksandr April 23 2021 17: 56
    +1
    In any case, the Americans will not leave the Afghans with weapons and equipment that could lead to a leak of military technology to Russia or China.

    By the way, the Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov is already beginning to hint to the official government of Afghanistan that Moscow is ready to act as a partner instead of the United States and NATO in the security sphere.
  14. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. April 23 2021 19: 05
    +1
    That's right, let them go in shorts, hiding behind a stars-striped flag.
  15. safar gafarov
    safar gafarov April 24 2021 06: 55
    0
    everything will remain for the Taliban, and this is fraught with problems for neighbors
    1. Soldatov V.
      Soldatov V. April 25 2021 11: 05
      0
      The neighbors are the same Taliban, so don't worry.