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"There will be no negotiations": Kiev responded to Putin's proposal to conduct a dialogue with the republics of Donbass

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Kiev responded to the proposal of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who suggested that Zelensky discuss the Donbass problems with Donetsk and Lugansk, stating that there would be no negotiations with the republics. This decision was voiced by Oleksiy Arestovich, advisor to the Ukrainian delegation in the trilateral group.


According to Arestovich, Kiev does not intend to conduct any negotiations with the republics of Donbass under any circumstances. Thus, he kind of made a decision for the president of Ukraine and the government, just like that, "chopping off the ends." It is clear that it is not Zelensky who decides in Kiev, but neither Arestovich. Even so, it was clear that Putin's proposal would not pass.

On the refusal, Arestovich decided not to stop and immediately accused Putin of recognizing the self-proclaimed republics, which, in his opinion, meant a "practical exit" from the Minsk agreements. According to him, the Russian president, when he spoke about the meeting with Zelensky, said the DPR / LPR, which he had never done before. Arestovich is convinced that this is a confession.

While Arestovich and a bunch of other Ukrainian politicians on all kinds of shows shared their visions of the situation after Putin's words, Zelensky himself proudly remained silent. It is clear that he will not go to Moscow, despite the cordial invitation of the Russian president. The radicals will not forgive him for this, nor will the curators from Washington and London. However, his refusal could lead him to a premature loss of power, since now he has at least some chance to rectify the situation with Donbass, but he will not use it.

By the way, the leaders of the DPR and LPR announced their readiness to meet with Zelensky "anywhere in Donbass."
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 23 2021 07: 00
    +14
    The radicals will not forgive him for this, and the curators from Washington and London

    Clown dolls, only sad and bloody.
    1. Khibiny Plastun
      Khibiny Plastun April 23 2021 07: 13
      .
      Why would they negotiate? From behind a puddle, they roared at the nullified one, less than a week had passed before the withdrawal of troops began. Type saved face, but in fact? Bandera rabble is always aware that their roof will fit in for them, and the Kremlin elbasy, as well as in 14, will pull up the tail.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 April 23 2021 07: 19
        +23
        Seriously?))) And who said that the teachings go on forever?) And I’ll wrap you up now - in the summer there will be no less troops in the camps) pancake roared)))
      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 23 2021 07: 19
        +20
        Quote: Khibiny Plastun
        From behind a puddle, they roared at the nullified one, less than a week had passed since the withdrawal of troops began
        Has the fighting against the LPNR begun? No, it means that the goals of the "surprise check" have been achieved, and what, and how quickly, they will begin to withdraw, it is not yet known. For example, US destroyers have already taken off. laughing
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 23 2021 07: 22
          +4
          For example, US destroyers have already taken off.

          and what would they decide, if that?
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 23 2021 07: 24
            +8
            Quote: novel xnumx
            and what would they decide, if that?

            This shows how the Merikatos "roared" in bubbles at the stern.
            1. novel66
              novel66 April 23 2021 07: 33
              +3
              well, yes, not really they ... that ...
              1. Swordserg
                Swordserg April 23 2021 08: 35
                +11
                That is, according to your logic, if our troops were withdrawn, then we were frightened. And if the Americans changed their minds to enter their ships into the Black Sea, then this is a cunning insidious plan? Uncle ... you ..?
            2. Khibiny Plastun
              Khibiny Plastun April 23 2021 08: 19
              .
              It would be nice if it were so, but the Banderlog continue to build up the grouping, and Pu withdraws the troops. And the people who believed in our prestige have been dying for 7 years already. And this is in Russian lands. If in the same Mexico they began to extinguish the amerikosov and what would they endure the same for 7 years? Putin is just a lot of other people's lives, and he himself is a little into the bushes.
              1. nemez
                nemez April 23 2021 09: 10
                +1
                Are you ready to sacrifice your life right now?
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock April 23 2021 11: 05
                  +19
                  Quote: nemez
                  Are you ready to sacrifice your life right now?

                  On the sofa?
              2. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 April 23 2021 12: 24
                +1
                Quote: Khibiny Plastun
                and he himself is a little that in the bushes.

                Judging by the stylistics, there is youthful infantile maximalism, warmed up by "brave water". Well, nickname at the same cashier. yes
                1. Khibiny Plastun
                  Khibiny Plastun April 23 2021 13: 17
                  -3
                  Pay attention to your nickname, but I climbed the Khibiny up and down. And it's better to be a maximalist than a skin and a weather vane.
                  1. Maikcg
                    Maikcg April 23 2021 17: 10
                    0
                    So what's the problem? Forward, into the trenches, you are our maximum. Putin primarily thinks of Russia, not LPR / DPR, no matter how painful it may sound. The priorities are different (yes, yes, we have heard more than once to steal 100500 triliards and put them in Fort Knox).
                  2. Pushkar
                    Pushkar April 24 2021 11: 50
                    0
                    Quote: Khibiny Plastun
                    And it's better to be a maximalist than a skin and a weather vane.

                    Be careful, there are rules for communication on the forum.
              3. cat Rusich
                cat Rusich April 23 2021 20: 37
                -1
                Quote: Khibiny Plastun
                It would be nice if in the same Mexico they began to extinguish the amerikosov and that they would endure the same for 7 years? ...
                The United States has tolerated the Taliban in Afghanistan since 2001 ...
                And already "gathered for the exit" without any conditions.
                The USSR left Afghanistan in February 1989 - and collapsed in December 1991.
                Let's wait how long the United States can hold out ... wassat
              4. Andrei Nikolaevich
                Andrei Nikolaevich April 24 2021 06: 54
                0
                Dear Khibinsky Plastun, take off your rose-colored glasses. Our "Russian lands" are not there. We profuked them when we fell for Gorbachev's cheap speeches. It's too late to remember. If you are such a "patriot" then you can dream about Alaska. She was also ours.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 11: 03
          +16
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          For example, US destroyers have already taken off.

          Let's just say - suspended the entrance. But the English will come in.
          You shouldn't pay attention to these vessels - they will continue to enter.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 23 2021 11: 17
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            Let's just say - suspended the entrance.

            When it was, in recent history, so that the Merikatos withdrawn application for entry to the Black Sea.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 23 2021 11: 22
              +19
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              When this happened, in modern history, so that the Merikatos withdrew the application to enter the Black Sea.

              So what? Don't look for symbols
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U April 23 2021 11: 23
                -1
                Quote: Overlock
                So what? Don't look for symbols

                Teach your household members.
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock April 23 2021 11: 31
                  +17
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Teach your household members.

                  You can also teach if they go to the wrong steppe
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      4. Romario Argo
        Romario Argo April 23 2021 07: 55
        +3
        The tail was drawn in, the Crimea was squeezed. I'm afraid to imagine that we will squeeze if to the belly that will rise winked
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 11: 05
          +16
          Quote: Romario Argo
          Crimea pressed

          Translated into ordinary language - "stolen", "taken away." That is, you say that Crimea passed to Russia illegally?
      5. Vissarion Golubov
        Vissarion Golubov April 23 2021 08: 18
        +3
        Participated anywhere?
      6. nemez
        nemez April 23 2021 09: 08
        -3
        Give the facts. Does the Jewish gut play?
      7. sleeve
        sleeve April 23 2021 09: 41
        +1
        A bottomless basin of water for chatting on the Internet? Are you gaining citation? Commendable, well done. Want a formula for similar comments? “In less than a few hours, the network was filled with comments about Putin’s weakness as president. The withdrawal of troops, which began after the negotiations, is imputed to him as fulfilling an order from the United States. further push the border of their decisiveness in their answers. One gets the impression that it is the Kremlin that is orchestrating such a reaction on the Web in its own interests. "
      8. nemez
        nemez April 23 2021 11: 07
        0
        How much do you get? If not a secret?
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B April 23 2021 07: 00
    +2
    Kiev responded to the proposal of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who suggested that Zelensky discuss the Donbass problems with Donetsk and Lugansk, stating that there would be no negotiations with the republics.
    What else could you expect from these Natsiks?
    Such negotiations did not come to a head for Vasobkom.
    What if it would have been possible to come to an agreement? Fuck! Fuck!
  3. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk April 23 2021 07: 03
    +11
    From the Ukrainian point of view, the state is just land, territory. Therefore, in general, there is no point in taking into account the opinion of the population living there. This is such a primitive thinking that it is not even immediately clear what they mean when they say that they are defending Ukraine by shelling the population in Donbass.
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor April 23 2021 11: 57
      0
      Cleared for the owners.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich April 24 2021 06: 58
      +1
      From my point of view, there is no such nation as "Ukrainians" at all. Consequently, there is no state "Ukraine". This "statehood" exists only due to the fact that uncles in KAMAZ trucks have not yet arrived, wishing to cross the border of this Ukraine without presenting documents.
  4. wandlitz
    wandlitz April 23 2021 07: 03
    +7
    Playing the president and being him are two different things.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 23 2021 08: 13
      +1
      Quote: wandlitz
      Playing the president and being him are two different things.

      Born a clown, the president cannot be, only a clown.
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. April 23 2021 07: 04
    +2
    It means again a war, a conflict that cannot be resolved peacefully.
    And they are fooling us with the Minsk agreements, as if there is no other way.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock April 23 2021 11: 07
      +12
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      It means again a war, a conflict that cannot be resolved peacefully.

      The situation is a dead end.
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      And they are fooling us with the Minsk agreements, as if there is no other way.

      Minsk agreements are dead
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich April 23 2021 20: 40
        0
        Quote: Overlock
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        It means again a war, a conflict that cannot be resolved peacefully.

        Quote: Lech from Android.
        And they are fooling us with the Minsk agreements, as if there is no other way.

        Minsk agreements are dead
        The world will be - after Victory good
  6. taiga2018
    taiga2018 April 23 2021 07: 08
    +6
    Putin did not expect any other reaction, he simply returned the "ball" about which Kravchuk spoke to the Ukrainian half, and they will do what they know how to do very well, roll it on their side ...
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz April 23 2021 07: 23
      +4
      That's it. Besides, why did anyone decide that this was an offer? It was an opinion how to do it according to the mind. Another question is, where is the mind, and where are the Ukrainian figures ...
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich April 24 2021 07: 02
      0
      Anything can be expected from our GDP. I was convinced of this myself when I turned on the TV and saw our "polite" in the Crimea. To be honest, I have already said goodbye to Crimea myself. I thought that we would never return ..
  7. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis April 23 2021 07: 10
    +9
    Ours dragged out the pause with Ukraine very much .. I don’t think that time will work for Russia ... The svidoukrovlady's abscess must be opened and disinfected .. I don’t know .. I would not withdraw the troops. I did not finish the exercises ... I warned that for every Svido shot in the Donbass there would be a hundredfold response in force. I sent all the diplomats to ... It's time to end this svidogadin.
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 07: 26
      .
      I would, we would, they would ...
      For 6 years, has it really not come to you that this is the situation that suits the authorities of the Russian Federation?
      1. Semyonich from the Urals
        Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 07: 28
        .
        Amendment ... does not even suit, namely by the authorities of the Russian Federation and designed
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 23 2021 07: 29
        +3
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        I would, we would, they would ...
        For 6 years, has it really not come to you that this is the situation that suits the authorities of the Russian Federation?
        Not satisfied with the word at all. But the fact that the pause was delayed is clear to everyone.
        1. Semyonich from the Urals
          Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 08: 13
          -9
          You may not be happy with it ..
          But I'm telling you about the leadership of the Russian Federation ..
          1. Victorio
            Victorio April 23 2021 08: 29
            +2
            Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
            You may not be happy with it ..
            But I mean something to you leadership of the Russian Federation I say ..

            ===
            ) Are you constantly in touch?
    2. qQQQ
      qQQQ April 23 2021 08: 42
      +2
      Quote: 30 vis
      Ours dragged out the pause with Ukraine very much .. I don’t think that time will work for Russia ... The svidoukrovlady's abscess must be opened and disinfected .. I don’t know .. I would not withdraw the troops. I did not finish the exercises ... I warned that for every Svido shot in the Donbass there would be a hundredfold response in force. I sent all the diplomats to ... It's time to end this svidogadin.

      In principle, this is correct, but on the other hand, it is necessary to complete SP2, for the sake of disrupting it, this whole almshouse has been started recently. I think that as soon as it is completed, constructive action from Ukraine will immediately begin, and if not, then in the gas pumping agreement there is an opportunity from a profitable enterprise to make it extremely unprofitable for 404, and this is a completely different conversation.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 23 2021 09: 11
        -1
        Quote: qqqq
        In principle, this is correct, but on the other hand, it is necessary to complete SP2, for the sake of disrupting it, this whole almshouse has been started recently. I think that as soon as it is completed, constructive action from Ukraine will immediately begin, and if not, then in the gas pumping agreement there is an opportunity from a profitable enterprise to make it extremely unprofitable for 404, and this is a completely different conversation.
        It seems like that .. Also quite a strong blow .. Perhaps the wars of the future will be exclusively economic ...
        1. qQQQ
          qQQQ April 23 2021 10: 21
          +3
          Quote: 30 vis
          Perhaps the wars of the future will be exclusively economic ...

          They are like that now. The US victory in the Cold War demonstrated just that.
        2. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich April 24 2021 07: 04
          0
          Perhaps the wars of the future will be exclusively economic ...
          Dear 30 vis, this was applied by Napoleon. With regard to England ..
      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 23 2021 11: 09
        +20
        Quote: qqqq
        In principle, that's right, but on the other hand, it is necessary to complete SP2, for the sake of disrupting it, this whole almshouse has recently been started.

        What is more important: life or loot? If the loot, according to your theory, then what prevents you from exchanging loot for life again?
        1. qQQQ
          qQQQ April 23 2021 11: 15
          +3
          Quote: Overlock
          What is more important: life or loot? If the loot, according to your theory, then what prevents you from exchanging loot for life again?

          Unfortunately, we live in such a World that all this is very closely intertwined. Having lost economically, we will lose an order of magnitude more people (the collapse of the USSR clearly showed this). And with regard to Donbass, if we do not have funds for its maintenance and restoration, and Ukraine will have them on the contrary (at least for the war) due to the absence of this very SP2, then there will be much more victims. Although I support your point of view with my heart, my mind says otherwise.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 23 2021 11: 23
            +17
            Quote: qqqq
            Although I support your point of view with my heart, my mind says otherwise.

            Politics is a vile business
        2. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich April 23 2021 20: 49
          +3
          Quote: Overlock

          What is more important: life or loot?
          On TV (Channel 5 XNUMX) every Thursday they collect money for vital surgery for a child...
          Without money - $ doctors do not treat and in pharmacies do not give free medicines sad
          Just a statement of fact ...
          sad
  8. Pavel73
    Pavel73 April 23 2021 07: 15
    +7
    Zelensky is a naked doll. This was clear even before the elections. He is even worse than Poroshenko. He at least had money, and therefore at least some kind of independence. It has nothing. And so he will do whatever the United States orders him to do. And the Nazis will control, a step to the right, a step to the left, an accident.
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 07: 23
      .
      Actually, Zelensky is the president elected by the people of Ukraine.
      He has authority and responsibility.
      And in the LDNR with whom to negotiate?
      Today there is Pushilin, and tomorrow, Pushilin may be blown up, or perhaps Pushilin the day after tomorrow will already be in the Moscow region at the dacha with Borodai to drive teas ..
      And instead of him there will be some other parsley ..
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 April 23 2021 07: 36
        +2
        Semyonich from the Urals
        Today, 07: 23
        NEW
        You clearly wrote Ali, or read poorly in Russian, Uralets)) laughing ? Once again for Svidomo from the Urals and with the permission of Pavel73 (Pavel)

        Pavel73 (Paul)
        Today, 07: 15
        NEW
        +2
        Zelensky is a naked doll.
        How much clearer?
        1. Semyonich from the Urals
          Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 08: 14
          -4
          Who is this Paul, I do not know, so why do I need his opinion? It's not valuable ..
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 11: 11
          +16
          Quote: aszzz888
          Semyonich from the Urals
          Today, 07: 23
          NEW
          You clearly wrote Ali, or read poorly in Russian, Uralets))? Once again for Svidomo from the Urals and with the permission of Pavel73 (Pavel)

          Pavel73 (Paul)
          Today, 07: 15
          NEW
          +2
          Zelensky is a naked doll.
          How much clearer?

          And what are the negotiations with the "doll"? laughing And you still want to execute "Minsk"! No signers by your grace
      2. common man
        common man April 23 2021 07: 40
        +7
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        Today there is Pushilin, and tomorrow, Pushilin may be blown up, or perhaps Pushilin the day after tomorrow will already be in the Moscow region at the dacha with Borodai to drive teas ..
        And instead of him there will be some other parsley ..

        And now like this: "Today there is Zelensky, and tomorrow Zelensky may be bent over by the Nazis, or maybe (more likely exactly) the day after tomorrow Zelensky will be re-elected and he will already be in California or in Israel, in his historical homeland, at the dacha with Biden (although I certainly had enough of that) ) chase teas ..
        And instead of him, some other parsley (here is the exact definition) will be. "
        And correct me if I'm wrong.
        1. common man
          common man April 23 2021 07: 49
          +3
          Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
          And instead of him there will be some other parsley ..

          And by the way, the definition of parsley is more suitable for Ukrainian presidents than ever. The first was parsley by name, the second by profession. Who will the third be? If it will be.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 23 2021 08: 08
          +1
          Quote: man in the street
          at the dacha with Biden (although I certainly had enough of that) to drive teas ..

          Maybe at Biden's dacha ... tea will be brought to Kamala Harris and Barack Obama.
        3. Semyonich from the Urals
          Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 08: 12
          .
          Not the day after tomorrow, they will be re-elected, but as it should be according to the Constitution of Ukraine ... within the specified time frame ..
          But with Pushilin and other deadlines there are no
          1. qQQQ
            qQQQ April 23 2021 08: 44
            0
            Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
            Not the day after tomorrow, they will be re-elected, but as it should be according to the Constitution of Ukraine ... within the specified time frame ..

            It’s very funny about the constitution, but about the designated deadlines, it’s generally ridiculous.
          2. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor April 23 2021 12: 01
            0
            After the fascist anti-constitutional coup in 14 was carried out and the constitution was rewritten, those who trampled on it were better not to remember it there at all.
        4. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 11: 15
          +17
          Quote: man in the street
          And correct me if I'm wrong.

          In the same way as with Zakharchenko!
          Full text:
          "The document on a set of measures for the implementation of the Minsk agreements provides for the withdrawal of heavy weapons, the withdrawal of foreign armed formations and the beginning of a dialogue on the holding of local elections in southeastern Ukraine."
          I wonder who signed:
          Members of the Tripartite Contact Group:

          Ambassador Heidi Tagliavini

          Second President of Ukraine L.D. Kuchma

          Ambassador of the Russian Federation to Ukraine M.Yu. Zurabov

          A.V. Zakharchenko

          I.V. Carpenter

          Who are Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky from a legal point of view? Government officials or individuals?
        5. Grits
          Grits April 24 2021 01: 26
          0
          Quote: man in the street
          And correct me if I'm wrong.

          May I correct it, with your permission? Zelensky in California can only drink tea with Yatsenyuk. This is his limit.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 23 2021 08: 12
        +1
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        Actually, Zelensky is the president elected by the people of Ukraine.
        He has authority and responsibility.

        Semyonich was rightly noticed from the Urals, he has powers and obligations to the US State Department and to Biden, "the Pope of the Sumerian nation."
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 11: 17
          +14
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Semyonich rightly noticed from the Urals, he has powers and obligations to the US State Department and to Biden, "the pope of the Sumerian nation"

          If we take into account that his election was recognized by Russia, then what other questions? And where did he go, his problems! Why do you think that everyone should move towards Russia? Even Lukashenka doesn't think so
      4. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich April 23 2021 21: 58
        0
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        Actually, Zelensky is the president elected by the people of Ukraine.
        And instead of him there will be some other parsley ..
        Announce the list of "people of Ukraine" ... bully
    2. sniperino
      sniperino April 23 2021 10: 00
      +4
      Quote: Pavel73
      And the Nazis will control, a step to the right, a step to the left, an accident.
      These scum come to Donbass like on a safari: shoot, take a selfie ...
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 23 2021 07: 33
    0
    Voiced this decision Alexey Arestovich - Advisor to the Ukrainian delegation in the trilateral group.
    Another ukroubol. Brains 0 (zero), and there too. laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 23 2021 12: 42
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      Another ukroubol. Brains 0 (zero), and there too.

      Put on a quilted quilted jacket, a hat with earflaps, and most of all, collect bottles at the Kievsky station.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 April 23 2021 07: 36
    0
    "There will be no negotiations": Kiev responded to Putin's proposal to conduct a dialogue with the republics of Donbass
    ... There is no one to talk to in Cueva ... we can stop at this for now.
    Or solve the problem yourself!
  11. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 April 23 2021 07: 54
    0
    as to be expected
  12. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 23 2021 08: 05
    +1
    Well, I decided for the comedian. Eco unseen. So they have Gulyai Pole, the Makhnovshchina and, in general, "anarchy is the mother of order" and everything is "secretly exchanged from Pan Ataman for these pants."
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 08: 18
      -9
      That is, when we have Lavrov or Zakharova or someone else says * Russia will never ... * or * Russia will not allow .. * does this mean we also have anarchy?
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner April 23 2021 08: 35
        +4
        what Do you "in the Urals" know that the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation is voicing the decision of the President of the Russian Federation? And who is Arestovich? Should you know your own?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 23 2021 12: 44
          0
          Quote: Captive
          And who is Arestovich? Should you know your own?

          Semyonich from Zhmerinka knows, he is embarrassed to say.
    2. sniperino
      sniperino April 23 2021 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: Captive
      So they have Gulyai Pole, the Makhnovshchina and, in general, "anarchy is the mother of order."
      It's not that bad. Activists are already working to restore order on the roads in Kiev, but they are hindered, they are attacked, possibly by Petrov and Boshirov (factual from the 2nd minute).
  13. prior
    prior April 23 2021 08: 05
    +3
    Kiev should be addressed in English.
    For some time now they do not understand Russian.
    Well, do they still remember the commander-obscene. laughing
    But this is a completely different conversation ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 23 2021 12: 46
      0
      Quote: prior
      Kiev should be addressed in English.
      For some time now they do not understand Russian.

      "Vayfenka close the window, otherwise the childrenyats will get a sheet."
  14. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 23 2021 08: 06
    +1
    It is clear that he will not go to Moscow, despite the cordial invitation of the Russian president.

    Well then, he will go to Magadan.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock April 23 2021 11: 18
      +19
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Well then, he will go to Magadan.

      Maybe to the Baltics?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 23 2021 12: 48
        0
        Quote: Overlock
        Maybe to the Baltics?

        You know, even though you are not very good at thinking about the Baltics, clowns are not needed in the Baltics either, there are enough of our own.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 13: 58
          +19
          Quote: tihonmarine
          You know, even though you are not very good at thinking about the Baltics

          And in Magadan, do not people live?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine April 23 2021 14: 22
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            And in Magadan, do not people live?

            People, right. That means I was mistaken, well then, to the polar bears, to an uninhabited island in the Arctic Ocean.
  15. Hagen
    Hagen April 23 2021 08: 17
    0
    This decision was voiced by Alexey Arestovich

    And who is this Arestovich? What powers does he have to voice the country's position? He is an advisor to the commission. Only. It is too small for us to discuss his statements here. He can declare war on everyone, but not come to it and not answer for it. laughing So soon, Maidan wipers will turn into media characters, and we will also discuss their drunken delirium ?.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 23 2021 08: 55
      +4
      It is too small for us to discuss his statements here.

      A vicious practice began to drag out the statements of insignificant personalities, any third assistants of the fifth deputy, or any “ex” whom one would like to chat about when retired and pass it off as practically official positions.
      I would not be surprised if they also quote the opinion of some Kiev janitor with the note "They reacted in Kiev ....": ((
      And this not only concerns issues with Ukraine, this general approach has become :(
    2. Overlock
      Overlock April 23 2021 11: 20
      +17
      Quote: Hagen
      He is an advisor to the commission.

      Not a simple commission-adviser to the delegation of Kiev in the Trilateral Contact Group on Donbass and advisor to the head of the Ukrainian president's office Alexey Arestovich
      1. Black lotos
        Black lotos April 23 2021 13: 56
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        Quote: Overlock
        Not a simple commission - adviser to the Kiev delegation in the Trilateral Contact Group on Donbass and advisor to the head of the Ukrainian president's office Oleksiy Arestovich

        right. the flaw in practice is that
        There really will not be direct negotiations between Kiev and the republics (which is what the adviser is talking about)
        but he does not decide the main thing - the negotiations of the presidents.
        but the title does not leave any chance - there will be no negotiations, it sounds definitively.
        Let me remind you that Zelensky has not yet responded to the Moscow meeting.
        The worst thing will be if he decides, flies, even if he does not achieve anything again, the Russian Federation will be to blame for the disruption. And Zelensky will rip off a lot of ratings for bravery.
  16. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 April 23 2021 08: 41
    +1
    Another clown Arestovich from the troupe of the Ukrainian circus politicum croaked.
    Actually, the pig did not talk to you, our president addressed directly to Monica Ze.
  17. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich April 23 2021 08: 52
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    recognition of Donbass
  18. DV tam 25
    DV tam 25 April 23 2021 10: 23
    +1
    Perhaps this was the last opportunity for the ukrov. Instead of "thinking" some, and not even the so-called. Ukrainian, carries a blizzard ... It is possible that conversations with representatives of ukroreikh will no longer be at all.
  19. Antagonist
    Antagonist April 23 2021 13: 43
    +8
    Kiev does not intend to conduct any negotiations with the republics of Donbass under any circumstances

    This indicates that Kiev will strive to resolve the conflict by force. Svidomye hated ... This time no one will save the maydanutyh.
  20. Antagonist
    Antagonist April 23 2021 13: 45
    +6
    Thus, he kind of made a decision for the President of Ukraine and the government, just like that, "chopping off the ends." It is clear that it is not Zelensky who decides in Kiev, but neither Arestovich

    The head of Ukraine is in Washington. All these Zelenskiy, Arestovichi are just talking heads and nothing more.
  21. Antagonist
    Antagonist April 23 2021 13: 47
    +9
    immediately accused Putin of recognizing the self-proclaimed republics

    Not recognized yet ... It's a pity. We must recognize their independence and accept the LPR as a part of Russia.
    means "practical exit" from the Minsk agreements

    It is not necessary to shift from a sore head to a healthy one. Kiev initially did not intend to comply with the Minsk agreements.
  22. Antagonist
    Antagonist April 23 2021 13: 52
    +5
    Zelenskiy himself was proudly silent.

    He did not expect such a response from Russia. Now he is in prostration and is trying to collect his thoughts. laughing
  23. Looking for
    Looking for April 23 2021 15: 13
    0
    Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
    Actually, Zelensky is the president elected by the people of Ukraine.

    Zelensky brazenly deceived the people of Ukraine and won the presidential elections for one reason only - he promised to stop the war in Donbass.
  24. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator April 23 2021 18: 39
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    This is certainly not for you to decide the jackal)