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Vladimir Putin responded to the offer of the President of Ukraine Zelensky "to meet in Donbass"

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If the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky wants to discuss bilateral relations between Ukraine and Russia, then let him come to Moscow, and if there are problems of resolving the conflict with the republics, then it is necessary to go to Donetsk or Lugansk. Thus, Vladimir Putin commented on Zelensky's message about his desire to meet in the territory of Donbass. Putin's answer was voiced during a meeting with President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko in Moscow.


Vladimir Putin responded to Zelensky's offer to meet in Donbass. According to the president, recently Kiev has made a lot of efforts to destroy relations with Moscow, so if the president of Ukraine wants to discuss the restoration of relations between the countries, Vladimir Vladimirovich invites him to Moscow at any time. If the Ukrainian president wants to discuss Donbass, then he must first discuss this with the leaders of the self-proclaimed republics of Donetsk and Lugansk, and only then talk with Russia.

Thus, Putin bluntly told Zelensky that his calls to "meet in Donbass" were not directed there, Russia was not a party to the conflict.

The Russian leader also commented on Kiev's statement about the transfer of the negotiating platform for Donbass from Minsk to another place. According to Putin, this is Ukraine's attempt to once again evade the implementation of the Minsk agreements. The decision to change the negotiating platform should be made jointly by everyone who chose it, and not Kiev alone.

Last Tuesday, Zelenskiy recorded a video message in which he invited Putin to meet "anywhere" in Donbass where the conflict is taking place.
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  1. the most important
    the most important April 22 2021 19: 11
    +82
    Sent it gently. Three letters. In the DPR.
    1. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov April 22 2021 19: 15
      +36
      I just reminded the clown that there is no alternative to the Minsk agreements, let them at least start to comply with what they signed
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 April 22 2021 20: 07
        +18
        Ukraine signed the Minsk agreements not in order to comply with them, for 7 YEARS without fulfilling anything, but everyone just says there is no alternative, it is necessary to comply, and ???? And people in the republics are dying, all 7 years are good guys from NM, civilians who simply want to live without giving anything to anyone and not jumping to Europe, children who are not to blame for anything at all. And from all sides there is only chatter and politics in all its dirty glory.
        1. Andrey Korotkov
          Andrey Korotkov April 22 2021 20: 20
          +5
          Quote: Murmur 55
          Ukraine signed the Minsk agreements not in order to comply with them, for 7 YEARS without fulfilling anything, but everyone just says there is no alternative, it is necessary to comply, and ???? And people in the republics are dying, all 7 years are good guys from NM, civilians who simply want to live without giving anything to anyone and not jumping to Europe, children who are not to blame for anything at all. And from all sides there is only chatter and politics in all its dirty glory.

          hi Throwing aside emotions and post-vision of the history of the conflict, at that time the Minsk agreements stopped the active phase of the war, knowing what would happen later, I think the solution to the issue would be, I would say, different.
          1. military_cat
            military_cat April 22 2021 20: 27
            +5
            Putin's answer was voiced during a meeting with President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko in Moscow.

            By the way, what about Lukashenka, voiced his "serious and principled decision in a quarter of a century"?
          2. Pereira
            Pereira April 22 2021 21: 35
            +11
            Discarding emotions and post-vision of the history of conflict

            The Minsk agreements saved the Maidan people from military defeat, made it possible to gain time and create a large army. Now Novorossiya alone will not hold out.
            1. Magog_
              Magog_ April 22 2021 23: 01
              +4
              Now Novorossiya alone will not hold out.
              Where does this come from? Do you have reliable information about the military readiness of the parties? Doesn't the LDNR corps' fur count? The maneuvers of Russian troops near the borders of ceeuropia are demonstrative measures to prevent the development of the conflict, while ...
              1. New Year day
                New Year day April 22 2021 23: 44
                -14%
                Quote: Magog_
                The maneuvers of Russian troops near the borders of ceeuropia are demonstrative measures to prevent the development of the conflict, while ...

                did not impose new sanctions laughing
                1. Magog_
                  Magog_ April 23 2021 11: 11
                  -1
                  "for now" refers to the period of expectation of large-scale military action by the Armed Forces. It's not about the beginning of the war - it has long been in line with all the canons of strategy. According to V.K. Triandafilov the war begins with secret mobilization. In our case, Russian troops passed this phase of the war long before 2014. Now, as part of the "check of combat readiness", in particular, it was possible to be convinced of the correctness of the calculations of the Russian General Staff for the time of deployment of our troops for operations to support the actions of the "LDNR corps" against the Ukrainian Armed Forces and NATO bands near the Russian borders. ... We will scoff after the victory in this serious war!
              2. Plastmaster
                Plastmaster April 23 2021 16: 23
                0
                Quote: Magog_
                Maneuvers of Russian troops near the borders of ceeuropia -

                Well, it looks like they pushed back the red thread, after learning. Again window dressing.
          3. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter April 22 2021 22: 31
            +18
            I congratulate everyone on the birthday of the leader of the world proletariat and the ancestor and founder of the USSR V.I. Leninin.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day April 22 2021 23: 45
              +2
              Quote: Stroporez
              I congratulate everyone on the birthday of the leader of the world proletariat and the ancestor and founder of the USSR V.I. Leninin

              Yes, grandfather Lenin in a nightmare could not imagine what would be done with his brainchild
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter April 22 2021 23: 54
                +1
                Quote: Silvestr
                Yes, grandfather Lenin in a nightmare could not imagine what would be done with his brainchild

                I reread State and Revolution as if it had been written yesterday.
                "The question of the state is acquiring particular importance at the present time both in theoretical and in practical-political terms. The imperialist war has extremely accelerated and aggravated the process of transformation of monopoly capitalism into state-monopoly capitalism.!
                August-September, 1917.
        2. gurzuf
          gurzuf April 22 2021 20: 25
          +2
          What are we talking about! Some kind of agreement. They hold the constitution like a marked deck of cards. When it is necessary, then it is referred to, and when it is not necessary, there is "political excellence (political expediency).
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 22 2021 21: 13
            +12
            Quote: gurzuf
            They hold the constitution like a marked deck of cards.

            With whom they take an example, do not tell me?
            1. Sarboz
              Sarboz April 22 2021 22: 01
              +6
              Quote: Overlock
              With whom they take an example, do not tell me?

              It is known from whom, from their overseas curators.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock April 22 2021 22: 16
                +18
                Quote: Sarboz
                It is known from whom, from their overseas curators.

                When was the EU constitution changed or violated? Examples ...
                What about changes to the Russian constitution?
                1. Sarboz
                  Sarboz April 22 2021 22: 34
                  +16
                  Quote: Overlock
                  When was the EU constitution changed or violated? Examples ...

                  Well, first of all, how long has the EU moved overseas?
                  Secondly, it’s probably difficult to break something that doesn’t exist. They have not yet been able to consolidate enough to live according to a single constitution. They tried in 2004. Therefore, they act, some in the forest, some for firewood. And in some EU countries, national constitutions are not treated as something sacred and inviolable:
                  In most European countries, constitutions have changed more than once over the past 25-30 years. For example, in Sweden, since 1991, the Basic Law has changed three times, in Norway since 1990 - also three times, in the Netherlands since 1995 - four times. The Austrian constitution has changed 7 times since 1991.
                  In Belgium in 1994 and in Switzerland in 1999, new basic laws were completely adopted. The Belgian constitution was then changed several times - in total, more than 50 articles were amended. Since 2001, the Swiss Basic Law has been further improved 10 times.

                  And these people teach us not to pick our noses.
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day April 22 2021 23: 47
                    -16%
                    Quote: Sarboz
                    And in some EU countries, national constitutions are not treated as something sacred and inviolable:
                    In most European countries, constitutions have changed more than once over the past 25-30 years. For example, in Sweden, since 1991, the Basic Law has changed three times, in Norway since 1990 - also three times, in the Netherlands since 1995 - four times. The Austrian constitution has changed 7 times since 1991.
                    In Belgium in 1994 and in Switzerland in 1999, new basic laws were completely adopted. The Belgian constitution was then changed several times - in total, more than 50 articles were amended. Since 2001, the Swiss Basic Law has been further improved 10 times.

                    And these people teach us not to pick our noses.

                    And to what extent do these changes strengthen or multipolarize the power of the ruling group? laughing
                    1. Pensive Lawyer
                      Pensive Lawyer April 23 2021 00: 12
                      +7
                      So we are not Europe and our metal is not European.
                      Europe has always been strong in the balance of power - earlier the king's vassals had very extensive powers, then here is the multi-party system and the balance of branches of power.
                      The East, on the contrary, has always been strong precisely under dictatorship-totalitarian regimes.
                      We are a multinational power. We have absorbed both of those and others. And we are strong when power is concentrated, not decentralized. But, if there is too much power in the same hands, we quickly heat up. That is, we prefer authoritarianism.
                      So, in my opinion, you cannot compare us with Europe. It is impossible (I will say more exaggeratedly), to compare us with the same Japanese. We are different. In many ways, we are strangers.
                      Those who think differently, who believe that we should chase after Europe - well, honestly, the mentality of the nation cannot be changed, it is better to actually move on our own. The mountain won't move anywhere.
                    2. KCA
                      KCA April 23 2021 03: 33
                      +7
                      Tell me, how often did the Constitution change in Great Britain? How never? How is she not there? And, there is also a monopoly of power in one group, well, then another ...
                2. gurzuf
                  gurzuf April 26 2021 13: 46
                  0
                  A good example is Bulgaria with "gas flow". She can't, but someone can. Tell me why? wink
              2. Andobor
                Andobor April 22 2021 23: 02
                +3
                Quote: Sarboz
                It is known from whom, from their overseas curators.

                Yes, an archaic legal system from the times of the slave system.
                1. Sarboz
                  Sarboz April 22 2021 23: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: Andobor
                  Yes, an archaic legal system from the times of the slave system.

                  am Well, the question is not about the archaism of the 1787 text. You yourself probably understand. There are no specifics in the Constitution of the times of the slave system. The focus is on the modern interpretation of the relevant rules by the Supreme Court. "Everything depends on me here." (Love Formula).
                  1. Andobor
                    Andobor April 23 2021 16: 40
                    +1
                    Quote: Sarboz
                    There are no specifics in the Constitution of the times of the slave system.

                    Of course, there is no specifics, they adjusted it, but the system is the same, archaic, relevant to the slave system.
                2. boris epstein
                  boris epstein April 23 2021 15: 58
                  +1
                  The US Constitution itself consists, as far as I know, of six points. But the administration of the Constitution is carried out by amending it. In particular, there is the Jackson-Vanik amendment banning the sale of dual-use goods in the USSR. This amendment is still in effect against the Russian Federation, and this is nothing more than a sanction. Only it is called differently. But in the US Constitution, freedom of trade is spelled out.
                  1. Sarboz
                    Sarboz April 23 2021 21: 49
                    0
                    Quote: Boris Epstein
                    The US Constitution itself consists, as far as I know, of six points.

                    Like seven. But article 7 is the shortest:
                    Nine-state ratification by conventions is sufficient
                    for the entry into force of this Constitution for those states
                    who thus ratify it.


                    Quote: Boris Epstein
                    In particular, there is the Jackson-Vanik amendment banning the sale of dual-use goods in the USSR.

                    A dastardly amendment, but it's not about the constitution. There is practically nothing about trade. This is an amendment to the 1974 US Commerce Act.
                    1. boris epstein
                      boris epstein April 25 2021 07: 57
                      +1
                      "The sixth article of the US Constitution establishes that federal laws adopted in accordance with the Constitution, as well as ratified international treaties, are the supreme law of the United States of America.
                      This constitution and the laws of the United States that will be established to implement it, as well as all treaties concluded by the United States, must be the supreme law of the country, and the judges of each state must obey them, even if there were contradictions in the constitution and the laws of individual states.oh yes, there is an amendment to the law
                      Congress, whenever it deems necessary by two-thirds of the members of both houses, may propose amendments to this Constitution, or, upon the motion of the legislatures of two-thirds of the states, may convene a Convention to propose amendments; such amendments in both cases will have legal effect in all respects as part of this Constitution after they have been ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the states or by conventions in three-quarters thereof, whichever form of ratification Congress proposes. At the same time, not a single amendment that can be adopted before one thousand eight hundred and eight should in no way affect the first and fourth parts of the ninth section of the first article; no state can be deprived of its equal vote in the Senate without its consent. "
                      That is, the amendment to the Law on Trade, "which will be established in pursuance of it (the Constitution)," is the administration of the Constitution itself.
              3. New Year day
                New Year day April 22 2021 23: 50
                -7
                Quote: Sarboz
                with their overseas curators.

                The US Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787. It was amended by 27 amendments, the last one on March 23, 1971. 50 years without amendments request
                1. Sarboz
                  Sarboz April 22 2021 23: 55
                  +8
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  The US Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787. It was amended by 27 amendments, the last one on March 23, 1971. 50 years without amendments

                  Well, how to put it mildly. When was the last time you read it for a dream? The US Constitution. Do you think all procedures are prescribed there, like in ours? Then you are greatly deluded. The entire US Constitution is the interpretation of its text by the current Supreme Court. The law is that tongue.
          2. Revival
            Revival April 23 2021 01: 29
            0
            Where is there!?
            What is their unique approach to the constitution, right?
        3. venik
          venik April 22 2021 21: 01
          +10
          Quote: Murmur 55
          Ukraine signed the Minsk agreements not in order to comply with them, for 7 YEARS without fulfilling anything, but everyone just says there is no alternative, it is necessary to comply, and ????

          ========
          WHAT to carry out? "Pig Fuhrer Potroshenko" signed the Minsk agreements exclusively from cowardice! When the NM began to put pressure on the APU and it became clear that this would not be limited! Those. zone the so-called ORDLO can expand substantially.
          It was then that the "point" and twitched .... Then "Petsa" decided to act in the best traditions of hohlo-politics: more precisely: the traditional "cunning .. (Sorry: cunning!"). Namely: We will sign everything, but we are not going to comply! "Washington is behind us! ... and a truncated almost" civilized "(read - pro-American!) Community ....."
        4. Overlock
          Overlock April 22 2021 21: 11
          +19
          Quote: Murmur 55
          Ukraine signed the Minsk agreements not in order to comply with them, for 7 YEARS without fulfilling anything, but everyone just says there is no alternative, it is necessary to comply

          She will NOT do them! Will not be! And nobody will do anything. Dead end!
      2. Hagen
        Hagen April 22 2021 21: 40
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Korotkov
        let them at least start to comply with what they signed

        How many treaties and agreements has Ukraine already signed that they have signed but are not going to fulfill? Inability to negotiate has become a national feature of the Ukrainian ruling elite. And not only after 2014 ...
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke April 22 2021 19: 16
      +13
      The most interesting option: invite Zelensky to Moscow, not accept, and even send him. good
      1. hirurg
        hirurg April 22 2021 19: 41
        +5
        The President of Russia does not meet with the head of the quarter.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 22 2021 21: 14
          +16
          Quote: hirurg
          The President of Russia does not meet with the head of the quarter.

          Wit or ...?
          1. hirurg
            hirurg April 22 2021 21: 36
            +3
            Sarcasm, dear.)))
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 22 2021 21: 41
              +22
              Quote: hirurg
              Sarcasm, dear.)))

              Received
    3. nnm
      nnm April 22 2021 19: 16
      +8
      Send in three letters is to send to UKR
      1. Puppeteer 111
        Puppeteer 111 April 22 2021 20: 54
        -23%
        Yes, you are politically correct to the limit))). Or maybe in RUS?))
        1. nnm
          nnm April 22 2021 21: 08
          +7
          I don’t remember that you and I would drink at-broodershaft, that you would start "poking" at me, but this is not particularly important.
          And if in essence, do not be offended, but comparing Moscow with Ukraine is like comparing Zimbabwe with Qatar.
    4. Clear
      Clear April 22 2021 19: 48
      +2
      Vladimir Putin responded to the proposal of the President of Ukraine Zelensky
      Well, take it easy yes
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty April 22 2021 20: 11
      +2
      Issues need to be resolved with Biden, the senile is now the sponsor and owner of the "uk-Roin" protector, Zelensky is just a thing that takes its place. ..
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 22 2021 20: 16
        +2
        Quote: Thrifty
        Issues need to be resolved with Biden, the senile is now the sponsor and owner of the "uk-Roin" protector, Zelensky is just a thing that takes its place. ..

        They talk to the can ... Figlar explained ... That he was no one and no name!
    6. businessv
      businessv April 22 2021 20: 55
      +5
      Quote: the most important
      Sent it gently. Three letters. In the DPR.

      Come on, colleague! Not sent, but invited to Donetsk, or Lugansk, where the clown is afraid to show his nose. But this also suggests that (if briefly and without explanation) VVP is not afraid to go there, for which he has respect.
    7. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 22 2021 22: 07
      +4
      laughing And he sent it twice. In the DPR and in the LPR.
    8. RealPilot
      RealPilot April 23 2021 02: 39
      +2
      And Vladimir Vladimirovich is 100% right!
      In Moscow, the meeting will be held at the proper level, everything will be fine with security.
      Plus, reputationally, it will be acceptable to everyone, including Zelensky. After all, he will show his negotiability, and maybe Macron / Merkel will come at the same time - they also need to ... That is, it is quite possible to choose a format, there is a reason.

      And to fly the GDP to Donbass, and even from the Ukrainian side, is a senseless risk, and at the same time, partly Russia recognizes itself as a party to the conflict. They will cover the National Battalions with artillery, and Ze will "accidentally be late" for the meeting. Not! There is no need to succumb to Zelensky's self-promotion. What our president did not do.
      1. KCA
        KCA April 23 2021 03: 38
        0
        What does M / M have to do with it? Putin also clearly said - and if you want to discuss bilateral relations - welcome to Moscow
  2. xorek
    xorek April 22 2021 19: 12
    +14
    Putin bluntly told Zelensky that his calls to "meet in Donbass" were not directed there, Russia was not a party to the conflict.
    good All to the point !!!! Well done GDP. And if Zelensky is so brave, then let him come first to Donetsk, if he considers it his territory .. How many minutes will he live interestingly? There simply relatives of those killed under shelling will tear apart the guards and himself .. Come on. Greens Weak?
    1. skif8013
      skif8013 April 22 2021 19: 47
      +5
      Quote: xorek
      Putin bluntly told Zelensky that his calls to "meet in Donbass" were not directed there, Russia was not a party to the conflict.
      good All to the point !!!! Well done GDP. And if Zelensky is so brave, then let him come first to Donetsk, if he considers it his territory .. How many minutes will he live interestingly? There simply relatives of those killed under shelling will tear apart the guards and himself .. Come on. Greens Weak?

      What minutes are there ?! He will not reach, he will be torn on the way. Yes, and the ridge is not enough to go there, the prezik ukrov is chalk now.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 22 2021 20: 10
        +3
        Quote: skif8013
        What minutes are there ?! He will not reach, he will be torn on the way. Yes, and the ridge is not enough to go there, the prezik ukrov is chalk now.

        You think right hi ..This junta temporary workers in Kiev and keep at the expense of the United States, while there is something to plunder and loot .. The Westerners liked the power, it's not goats to graze the gentlemen and spill strawberries in the heat .. All were destroyed by the farmers, out of anger and hatred for their ancestors litter SS .. They took revenge powerfully. (Thanks to Khrushchev)
    2. private person
      private person April 22 2021 19: 54
      -10%
      .How many minutes will he live interestingly? There, the relatives of those killed under the shelling will tear apart the guards and himself.

      Yes, he will not go to Donbass Ze. LDNR unrecognized republics and he needs to negotiate with Moscow.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 22 2021 20: 07
      +8
      Quote: xorek
      will come first to Donetsk, if he considers it his territory .. How many minutes will he live interestingly? There simply relatives of those killed under shelling will tear apart the guards and himself .. Come on Greens Weak?

      People in Donetsk are smarter. Nothing will happen to him there. But the fact is that they will tell him the same thing - do what Gunpowder signed and approved by the UN. Oh, yes, they will also tell him that he is OBLIGED to free parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. After all, the residents of these areas also took part in the referendum with a well-known result. Everything. But in order to fulfill the "Minsk agreements", there is no need for him to go to Donetsk or Lugansk. Everything, the circle is closed.
      1. alien
        alien April 22 2021 21: 02
        +4
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        But the fact is that they will tell him the same thing - do what Gunpowder signed and approved by the UN

        But the fact is that Zelensky is now in a state of #Saakashvili2008, on manual control ...
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk April 22 2021 22: 52
          +2
          Quote: Alien

          But the fact is that Zelensky is now in a state of #Saakashvili2008, on manual control ...

          Who cares? Putin? Merkel? Macron? In my opinion, no one. These are the problems of Yaneloch-6 and its curators from the banks of the Potomac.
        2. keeper03
          keeper03 April 23 2021 10: 15
          0
          On puppet control! yes hi
      2. Sarboz
        Sarboz April 22 2021 22: 17
        +5
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Oh, yes, they will also tell him that he is OBLIGED to free parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. After all, the residents of these areas also took part in the referendum with a well-known result.

        Exactly. The main mistake of the executors who made up the text of the Minsk Agreements was the establishment of a demarcation line along the line of contact between the parties to the conflict at the time of signing. There is no logic in this. This is a time bomb. This allows the scum to constantly shell Donetsk. The demarcation line could only be established along the administrative borders of Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk April 22 2021 22: 55
          +2
          Quote: Sarboz
          shell Donetsk. The demarcation line could only be established along the administrative borders of Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

          Maybe someone will argue with this, but not me. hi
        2. New Year day
          New Year day April 22 2021 23: 56
          -7
          Quote: Sarboz
          The demarcation line could only be established along the administrative borders of Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

          The administrative border of the regions did not coincide with the really controlled territory. Who would go for it? -No one.
    4. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk April 22 2021 21: 36
      +3
      Quote: xorek
      All to the point !!!! Well done GDP. And if Zelensky is so brave, then let him come to Donetsk first, if he considers it his territory.

      Very calmly, balanced, and most importantly, he answered the buffoon. Zelik needs a meeting for the sake of a meeting, in order to try to be on a par with Putin. Putin, however, reasonably asks, "The question arises: what do we want to discuss at this meeting?" Now Zelya must show everyone what he wants and what the owners will allow him. In the meantime, as M. Pogrebinsky correctly said about the clown - "This performance is an attempt to say something clever. But all this causes feeling of disgust". yes
    5. Andobor
      Andobor April 22 2021 23: 10
      +3
      Quote: xorek
      .How many minutes will he live interestingly?

      In the DPR, he will be provided with security if he preliminarily agrees,
      but the Natsiks, when they return, will be beaten for sure.
  3. knn54
    knn54 April 22 2021 19: 13
    +13
    "Come to us on the Kolyma" ...
    1. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 April 22 2021 19: 24
      +1
      Do not forget to take a jigsaw with you ...
      1. akims
        akims April 22 2021 19: 45
        -1
        To his collective farm, to Siberia, weed cedars!
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk April 22 2021 20: 08
          +11
          Quote: akims
          To his collective farm, to Siberia, weed cedars!

          Leave Siberia alone. We don't need shit here. We do not like it when it smells bad.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 22 2021 21: 17
          +24
          Quote: akims
          to Siberia, weed the cedars!

          What is Siberia guilty of?
          1. Revolver
            Revolver April 22 2021 22: 57
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            What is Siberia guilty of?

            How what? There are many woods, few people wanting to saw it. Therefore, you have to send unwilling. Because it is necessary to saw timber, it has been one of the main items of Russian export for centuries.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day April 22 2021 23: 57
              +1
              Quote: Nagan
              Therefore, you have to send unwanted people.

              I think that the forest now just has someone to cut and sell
  4. nnm
    nnm April 22 2021 19: 20
    +8
    In fact, the only reason for the meeting is to observe different polities. For in fact, meeting with Zelensky, who cannot resolve a single issue on his own, is a waste of time.
    Although ... if only Zelensky performs a couple of numbers, then at least you can laugh. The main thing is not to let him near the pianos in the Kremlin.
    1. xorek
      xorek April 22 2021 19: 34
      +5
      Quote: nnm
      In fact, the only reason for the meeting is the observance of various polities

      Well, yes, I remember that before the elections, they dragged him across all European countries and greeted him with all the honors (who gave the order interesting))))) I don’t remember something like that in the history of diplomacy ..
      This photo speaks for itself, I couldn't resist posting it again, so everything is emotional here ..

      Or, well, just a Russophobic idyll ..

      And here everything is straight according to the pattern of kissing and the main thing is that the blood flows, and we will help you .. negative
      Show me at least one photo of this with Putin ..
      1. Flashpoint
        Flashpoint April 22 2021 19: 37
        +7
        Quote: xorek
        Quote: nnm
        In fact, the only reason for the meeting is the observance of various polities

        Well, yes, I remember that before the elections, they dragged him across all European countries and greeted him with all the honors (who gave the order interesting))))) I don’t remember something like that in the history of diplomacy ..
        This photo speaks for itself, I couldn't resist posting it again, so everything is emotional here ..

        Or, well, just a Russophobic idyll ..

        And here everything is straight according to the pattern of kissing and the main thing is that the blood flows, and we will help you .. negative

        Fuuu what rubbish wassat
        1. xorek
          xorek April 22 2021 20: 16
          0
          Quote: Flashpoint
          Fuuu what rubbish

          This is usually blocked, but you can find it on the net .. You understand, I hope that how and why?
          1. New Year day
            New Year day April 22 2021 23: 58
            -4
            Quote: xorek
            This is usually blocked

            Who! What for?
            Quote: xorek
            I hope you understand how and why!
        2. Guru
          Guru April 22 2021 20: 18
          +1
          Fuuu what rubbish wassat
          PID you will understand laughing
      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 22 2021 21: 24
        +22
        Quote: xorek
        I don’t remember anything like that in the history of diplomacy ..

        What embassies did you serve?

        Quote: xorek
        Show me at least one photo of this with Putin ..



      3. Sarboz
        Sarboz April 22 2021 22: 55
        +2
        Quote: xorek
        And here everything is straight according to the pattern of kissing and the main thing is that the blood flows, and we will help you ..

        And in a liberal environment, it is fashionable to laugh at the photos of Brezhnev and Honecker kissing.
      4. Revolver
        Revolver April 22 2021 23: 01
        -3
        Prezik what he is, a shitty chosen one. Every nation deserves the government that, ahem, it has.
  5. cheburator
    cheburator April 22 2021 19: 28
    +14
    V.V. Putin is our President - my pride!
    We are Russians! God with us!
    1. xorek
      xorek April 22 2021 20: 19
      -4
      Quote: cheburator
      V.V. Putin is our President - my pride!
      We are Russians! God with us!

      I think you wrote it sarcastically? Or am I wrong .. I have a feeling for such an innate hi
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 22 2021 20: 51
        +3
        Quote: xorek
        I think you wrote it sarcastically?

        Do you double-check with the people on the street? wink
      2. Andobor
        Andobor April 22 2021 23: 14
        +1
        Quote: xorek
        V.V. Putin is our President - my pride!
        We are Russians! God with us!

        Yes - not everyone is so lucky.
    2. silverura
      silverura April 22 2021 20: 21
      0
      V.V. Putin is our President - my pride!

      You are a plus! good
      Personally, I like the word “Tsar” more. request We need to bring back traditions! What can you say about this?
    3. andrew42
      andrew42 April 22 2021 22: 56
      -2
      Putin and the Russians are mutually perpendicular vectors.
    4. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice April 23 2021 17: 39
      -1
      God is a fairy-tale character. Why do Russians need a fairytale character?
  6. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky April 22 2021 19: 28
    +12
    It is quite a worthy and balanced answer.
    Russia is not a party to the conflict and is not going to get involved in Zelensky's ravings about what cranial cockroaches whispered in his ears.
    What will the old senile Kravchuk say now?
    1. Overlock
      Overlock April 22 2021 21: 26
      +27
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      What will the old senile Kravchuk say now?

      Why listen to him at all? Lies like a gray gelding
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 22 2021 22: 07
        +4
        Quote: Overlock
        Why listen to him at all? Lies like a gray gelding

        He lies, how he breathes, but his artistic and political pereshists deserve special attention.
        He, with his chatter about the fact that he will kill Russians from his collection gun, has already "whistled" at a separate article of the criminal code.
        This old mold is afraid that the day may come when he will be pulled out from under the bed and asked for everything, and therefore it carries the selected nonsense in the hope that his curators will open a green corridor to the West for him, where he will go to the same bathhouse with another mold - Misha Gorbachev. Both scraped onto their spines.
  7. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 April 22 2021 19: 43
    +7
    Monica Ze once again tried to concoct a PR action for himself and was correctly stalled.
    Zelensky is a showman (klownyara), the six of the United States, and Putin is a competent politician who is reckoned with all over the world.
    1. Clear
      Clear April 22 2021 19: 52
      +4
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Monica Ze once again tried to concoct a PR action for himself and was correctly stalled.
      Zelensky is a showman (klownyara), the six of the United States, and Putin is a competent politician who is reckoned with all over the world.

      Indeed, Zelensky, as a novice student at a cinematic university, records all some low-quality videos and admires them himself. Not seriously No.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 22 2021 20: 23
        +2
        Quote: Clear
        Indeed, Zelensky, as a novice student at a cinematic university, records all some low-quality videos and admires them himself. Not seriously

        That's right, he plays a role and does not understand the seriousness of the situation .. But this game is his, every day brings sacrifices to the peaceful Donbass and can reach a lot of blood .. The USA threw a good jester at us and laughs probably rubbing their hands
        1. Clear
          Clear April 22 2021 20: 26
          +5
          Quote: xorek
          The USA threw a good jester at us and they probably laugh while rubbing their little hands

          Yes, these murderers of the Indians took advantage of our helplessness and pro-Western elites, and turned the heads of the Ukrainian Simonenko (communists) and pulled Bandera from the caches.
        2. Stepan S
          Stepan S April 22 2021 20: 29
          +4
          But this game is his, every day makes sacrifices

          Ukrainians reply to this that more people die from covid in Ukraine in one day than in Donbass in two years. Nobody notices the victims in Donbass, they are used to it.
          1. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice April 23 2021 17: 44
            -1
            In Ukraine, 43000 people died from COVID, in Russia 105000.
            https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
        3. Motorist
          Motorist April 22 2021 22: 34
          -1
          Quote: xorek
          That's right, he plays a role and does not understand the seriousness of the situation.

          I think he understands everything. It's just that his family is being held hostage, so you have to play ...
  8. newcomer
    newcomer April 22 2021 19: 50
    +3
    GDP competently and coolly cooled the clown Tabakki.
    I wonder when Butler's fateful decision will be?
    1. xorek
      xorek April 22 2021 20: 02
      0
      Quote: newbie
      GDP competently and coolly cooled the clown Tabakki.
      I wonder when Butler's fateful decision will be?

      You shouldn't pay attention to clowns ... hi
      But with Batka, negotiations are underway, I hope he will make the right decision. hi
      Its multi-vector nature, recently Belarus almost brought civil war
      I hope the brothers will support the people of Belarus .. Otherwise it will be creepy!
      1. newcomer
        newcomer April 22 2021 20: 13
        +4
        So I hope for a truly "fundamental and fateful decision." hi
        By the way, while the point is, in Donbass, in Rubezhnoye, part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is on fire. Locals talk about explosions.
        1. xorek
          xorek April 22 2021 20: 25
          0
          Quote: newbie
          So I hope for a truly "fundamental and fateful decision." hi
          By the way, while the point is, in Donbass, in Rubezhnoye, part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is on fire. Locals talk about explosions.

          Well, God forbid! So tired of all this harassment and chatter .. It's time to decide something radically Russia and Belarus. (Maidan for the Belarusians of Russia can no longer stand) hi
          And Bandera began to soak, give otvetku .. It's high time already.
          Looks like all good intentions have ended at last .. And we begin to wet, so that until diarrhea and bloody vomit .. negative soldier
          1. newcomer
            newcomer April 22 2021 20: 43
            +5
            It's high time to end fascism, eh.
    2. Clear
      Clear April 22 2021 20: 29
      +3
      Quote: newbie
      GDP competently and coolly cooled the clown Tabakki.

      Tabaki (according to Kipling's book) ate leftovers from the "master's table", and the US Zelensky would not be allowed to fire a cannon shot.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer April 22 2021 20: 31
        +1
        But he ate leftovers from the Euro table.
        1. Clear
          Clear April 22 2021 20: 35
          +2
          Quote: newbie
          But he ate leftovers from the Euro table.

          So the remnants are deplorable.
          Ukraine, which has opened up its market for European goods with high added value, mainly supplies raw materials to Europe.
          European countries have not yet opened markets for Ukrainian goods; only a tiny fraction of Ukrainian products are supplied to the EU duty-free.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer April 22 2021 20: 40
            0
            So the fact is that even with raw materials is now a problem. The only real, last resource_land will go away from the first of July, if I am not mistaken in the date. The second resource, ephemeral_ Russophobia, is gradually but surely losing its value. What Ukraine has in the remnant_ civil war, hungry people.
            1. Clear
              Clear April 22 2021 20: 53
              +4
              Quote: newbie
              So the fact is that even with raw materials is now a problem. The only real, last resource_land will go away from the first of July, if I am not mistaken in the date. The second resource, ephemeral_ Russophobia, is gradually but surely losing its value.
              Right yes

              Quote: newbie
              What Ukraine has in the remnant_ civil war, hungry people.
              It is unlikely that the Ukrainian people (for many years) did not understand this situation for them.
              1. newcomer
                newcomer April 22 2021 21: 31
                +2
                Who understood_ left long ago or are crushed by the Westerners. Yes, they hoped for: maybe it will carry, it will not. After all, it is known: an adequate part of the population loyal to the Russian Federation, which is the majority, is politically passive. The aggressive part of Svidomo, a maximum of a quarter, crushed everything. I will no longer list the events of recent history and the present moment.
                1. Clear
                  Clear April 22 2021 21: 39
                  +3
                  Quote: newbie
                  The aggressive part of Svidomo, a maximum of a quarter, crushed everything.

                  I'm sure there are fewer of them. Everyone is already known and ... they are silent. No resistance.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 April 22 2021 19: 51
    +3
    We are for peace, good-neighborly relations with everyone ... somehow, from the other side, this is not noticeable AT ALL.
    1. Clear
      Clear April 22 2021 20: 31
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      We are for peace, good-neighborly relations with everyone ... somehow, from the other side, this is not noticeable AT ALL.

      I'm not comfortable with them either No.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 22 2021 21: 01
        +2
        And who will be comfortable if a monkey with a grenade starts playing next to him ...
        1. Clear
          Clear April 22 2021 21: 27
          +4
          Quote: rocket757
          And who will be comfortable if a monkey with a grenade starts playing next to him ...

          Let's hope this grenade explodes in their hands (God forgive me winked )
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 22 2021 21: 57
            +2
            Who knows, that monkey ... suddenly throws it over the fence?
            1. Clear
              Clear April 22 2021 23: 15
              +5
              Quote: rocket757
              Who knows, that monkey ... suddenly throws it over the fence?

              Well, Russia should definitely be saved by "Yaytsenyuk's fence" lol Or did this bastard dumped in Miami along with the fence? am
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 23 2021 06: 00
                +1
                They drag everything "their" with them ... Yatsenyuk pulled down the fence!
  10. Stepan S
    Stepan S April 22 2021 20: 27
    -1
    Let's see what an artist of the spoken genre has to say to this, now it's his turn to respond. The game of cities continues .. Donetsk-Moscow -... more
  11. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich April 22 2021 20: 39
    0
    And what's not with Philip?
  12. 1536
    1536 April 22 2021 20: 44
    +2
    I remember how V.S. Chernomyrdin negotiated with real terrorists to save people. I know that the British government negotiated with the leaders of the Sinn Fein liberation movement in Northern Ireland, and certain agreements were reached. Everyone negotiates from Nicaragua to Turkey and straight perpendicular if there is a civil war or insurgent organizations in the country. And only one country does nothing and by order of the government of this country they kill people, citizens of this country. Moreover, the world community in the XNUMXst century indulges this murder, indulges actual terrorists.
  13. Puppeteer 111
    Puppeteer 111 April 22 2021 20: 59
    -8
    The soul flew to heaven))) All the great commentators got out. There is nothing more to comment on the campaign?))) For example, a story. Although if you are allowed there, then you will drag Ukrainians to Peru))) The site has become from the category of KVN. Who is the first of any x..ni will get a big sweet candy in the form of pluses from the same limited contingent. He will increase his rating and will tune his shortcomings in every comment))
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 22 2021 21: 09
      +3
      Quote: Puppeteer 111
      The site has become from the category of KVN. Whoever is the first of any x..ni will get a big sweet candy in the form of pluses

      It is immediately clear that you do not have enough glucose.
      You can try starch and cellulose ...
    2. nnm
      nnm April 22 2021 21: 12
      +2
      So what do you do on the site, since the topics do not suit you, and the commentators are so stupid? Well, find yourself another place for the effort.
      And then you just look like an offended person - you don't have enough bites, and your rating ...
      Is it important for a self-confident person?
    3. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
      Andrey Krasnoyarsky April 24 2021 15: 34
      0
      Well, of course, all the fools have gathered on the site, only one Puppeteer-Philip is smart. Ask Shoigu for this order.
  14. Lunic
    Lunic April 22 2021 21: 13
    +3
    Quote: Puppeteer 111
    The soul flew to heaven))) All the great commentators got out. There is nothing more to comment on the campaign?))) For example, a story. Although if you are allowed there, then you will drag Ukrainians to Peru))) The site has become from the category of KVN. Who is the first of any x..ni will get a big sweet candy in the form of pluses from the same limited contingent. He will increase his rating and will tune his shortcomings in every comment))


    Katz offers to surrender (shut up)
  15. Freeman
    Freeman April 22 2021 22: 02
    +1
    If the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky wants to discuss bilateral relations between Ukraine and Russia, then let him come to Moscow, and if there are problems of resolving the conflict with the republics, then it is necessary to go to Donetsk or Lugansk.


    And if Zelensky wants to repeat to Putin his request twenty years ago, then he must go to Sochi. laughing

  16. Storog dvornik
    Storog dvornik April 22 2021 22: 28
    -1
    Putin said go Vovk to Moscow, repent ...
    He's kind-hearted, KVNschikov loves, you see, forgive ...
    Or...
    Shoigu said from 23.04 to 01.05 we will withdraw the troops ...
    Or suddenly a new "sudden" check ...
  17. Dizel200
    Dizel200 April 22 2021 22: 30
    0
    Hmmm, where does the clown jump against such tyrannosaurs? They once again dipped him into poop, and at the same time the curators.
  18. don-1500
    don-1500 April 22 2021 22: 42
    0
    [Quote] [/ quote] Not being a party to the conflict is so-so excuse. Nothing prevented him from discussing the Karabakh events on the phone with Erdogan for hours, while not being a party to the conflict. You need to agree and right there in the Donbass during negotiations, in front of the whole world to make Zelensky a laughing stock and a clown. And at the same time, it will be possible to introduce special forces and special forces there quite legally, ostensibly to ensure the safety of the president and the entire Russian delegation at the talks.
  19. not main
    not main April 22 2021 22: 51
    +6
    Quote: Stroporez
    I congratulate everyone on the birthday of the leader of the world proletariat and the ancestor and founder of the USSR V.I. Leninin.

    Thank God! And then I already thought that no one would remember!
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter April 22 2021 22: 58
      +4
      Quote: non-primary
      Thank God! And then I already thought that no one would remember!

      I, by a sinful deed, thought that a separate article would be published on VO.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day April 23 2021 00: 01
        0
        Quote: Stroporez
        I thought that a separate article would come out on VO.

        Not relevant! request
  20. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets April 23 2021 01: 00
    +1
    in fact, the Minsk agreements are all true and you cannot argue ... it is agreed that the decisions on Donbass are by mutual agreement, because for Donbass it is in Donetsk and Luhansk .... if not about Donbass, then "hazing" well, no one has canceled yet .. . where it is seen that the old-timers young growth conditions rolled out))) well, that is, if we are not talking about the Donbass, then what? true - about the relationship between the Russian Federation and the RUK ....... and this is a fact in Moscow ... again, not in Kiev because "no one canceled hazing"))))))))
  21. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 23 2021 04: 03
    0
    clown .. poses from himself ... it is not clear what! found someone to compete with ..
  22. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 23 2021 05: 50
    0
    Ukraine is a circus and the president is the main clown. The people of Ukraine are young spectators of this circus. Skakuas with pans.
  23. Storog dvornik
    Storog dvornik April 23 2021 07: 11
    -2
    It looks like the GDP has been bent (media version is younger than 2016) ...
    Knight of the Maltese (Masonic) Order Shoigu announced the withdrawal of Russian troops from the western borders ...
    Russian President V.V. Putin (media version younger than 2016) invited Zelensky to Moscow ...
    The campaign is not in vain, according to rumors, the "Afghans" of Donbass, have already decided on their colleagues from the Outskirts, about the "revolution" and the elimination of power in the LPR, and the DPR ...
  24. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky April 24 2021 15: 32
    0
    Vladimir Vladimirovich misunderstood the Ukrainian president. Zelensky is simply afraid to show up in Donbass alone without Putin.