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From Bulgaria via Poland: Ukraine purchased ammunition of Soviet calibers

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From Bulgaria via Poland: Ukraine purchased ammunition of Soviet calibers

Ukraine, which is in no way able to establish the production of ammunition on its own territory, continues to buy them in the former Warsaw Pact countries. Another batch was purchased by Kiev in Bulgaria.


Bulgaria is increasingly flickering in the newsrelated to the supply of ammunition and weapons and not only to Ukraine. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, a fairly powerful production of both small arms and grenade launcher and mortar weapons and anti-tank systems remained on the territory of this country. In addition, Bulgarian enterprises have mastered the production of various ammunition well. With the transition of Europe to Western standards, the only buyers of large quantities of ammunition remain Ukraine and the Middle East, where the bulk of weapons and ammunition go.

Thus, Kiev knew who to turn to, and bought a large batch of various ammunition produced in Bulgaria. Only the purchase was made not directly, but through a Polish intermediary, which was the Polish private enterprise Vismag Jacek Jakubczyk.

As a result, through Poland from Bulgaria to Ukraine was delivered: one hundred thousand 40-mm rounds for grenade launchers GP-25/30, of which 70 thousand VOG-25 and 30 thousand VOG-25P, about 35 thousand shots for the automatic grenade launcher AGS-17 , 1,5 million cartridges of 7,62x54 mm caliber for SVD and Kalashnikov machine gun. All ammunition is of Bulgarian origin.

The purchase was made back in February this year, but it became known about it only now.

We will remind that recently in Kiev announced the construction of two cartridge factories in Ukraine. True, they did not say anything where they want to build and with what funds. The most important thing is to promise to build, and ammunition can be purchased in Bulgaria.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 22 2021 14: 44
    +2
    But there are a lot of weapons and ammunition in Romania too, the Romanians also have the opportunity to buy if the Bulgarians raise prices.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 22 2021 14: 56
      +6
      From Bulgaria via Poland: Ukraine purchased ammunition of Soviet calibers

      And the Bulgarians from the Czech Republic, with " warehouses not blown up by Petrov and Bashirov "??? belay

      Bad ! The comrades from the GRU work frankly badly ... They should be ashamed!
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z April 22 2021 15: 01
        +1
        From Bulgaria via Poland: Ukraine purchased ammunition of Soviet calibers

        Buy developed in Soviet, Communist Russia ...
        But what about decommunization? What about the principles?
        1. NIKN
          NIKN April 22 2021 15: 07
          +3
          They modify, add a democratizer and sell already normal democratic patrons to those who are fighting for democracy.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox April 22 2021 15: 20
            +1
            Quote: NIKNN
            add democratizer

            A good idea appeared: if you are aware of the democratizer additive, then in this capacity you can use soaked TNT sticks, dried and converted into a powder state.
            Add a little bit to the sleeve and repackage the zinc.
            If their 120 mm mortars explode so well, why won't the machine-gun barrels bend from overheating?
      2. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 April 22 2021 15: 38
        +1
        There are too few Gothic spiers in Bulgaria. Whether it is in England or the Czech Republic.
      3. Disant
        Disant April 22 2021 16: 10
        +1
        so in terms of volume, if you count all the purchased ammunition, it is less than a heating car. It looks like the remains that did not have time to burn out in the warehouse. Looks like a private supply to a private person
      4. pytar
        pytar April 22 2021 19: 28
        +2
        In an official statement to the media, Emelyan Gebrev's EMCO company categorically denies any connection with the explosions in the Czech Republic.

        Here is a part of the text of the message circulated in the Bulgarian media:
        "... The EMCO group of companies is one of the largest ammunition manufacturers in Europe. It has a wide range of partners with whom it maintains relationships strictly regulated by EU legislation and the relevant national regulatory regimes and authorities. Among them are partners from the Czech Republic .... Ukraine is a sovereign state with all the legal rights to organize its defense and no restrictions on the supply of military equipment. For Ukraine, supplies are supplied to governments and private companies from all over the world, including from Central and Eastern Europe. in general there were .... Allegations that the ammunition destroyed as a result of the terrorist act in the Czech Republic in 2014 was intended for the re-export of EMCO to Ukraine, not true. Moreover, the EMCO has never exported ammunition from the Czech Republic to Ukraine. This is documented.
        ... During the months before, during and at least one year after the explosions in the Czech Republic, EMCO did not plan or plan to move the property from these warehouses either to Bulgaria or to any other country. We remind you that the transportation of military equipment, especially explosives, is a complex process that requires lengthy preparation and significant documentary exchange with the authorities of the sending and receiving countries, as well as transit countries through which the materials must pass. Documents in the archives of EMCO completely refute versions of even intentions regarding such transportation in the period from April 2014 to December 2015 ... Assumptions about the motives and causes of the explosions must be clarified by the Czech investigating authorities. As can be seen from the public statements made so far, including by officials, there are a number of conflicting and even mutually exclusive statements."


        So there are many questions and what actually happened there in the Czech Republic is not known for certain.
    2. max702
      max702 April 22 2021 15: 39
      +1
      Brothers are the main suppliers of ISIS and brothers-in-arms since the 404th .. The questions to them were always answered if not us, then someone else will put them .. They are pennies the most important!
      1. pytar
        pytar April 22 2021 16: 06
        +2
        Brothers are the main suppliers of ISIS and brothers-in-arms since the 404th .. The questions to them were always answered if not us, then someone else will put them .. They are pennies the most important!

        Suppliers of weapons to all sorts of bandits have no nationality It is a supranational crime syndicate that makes money on blood. Individual from a very specific category, by the way, among them there are many from Russia. first and last names. hi
        1. max702
          max702 April 22 2021 17: 00
          +1
          Quote: pytar
          Brothers are the main suppliers of ISIS and brothers-in-arms since the 404th .. The questions to them were always answered if not us, then someone else will put them .. They are pennies the most important!

          Suppliers of weapons to all sorts of bandits have no nationality It is a supranational crime syndicate that makes money on blood. Individual from a very specific category, by the way, among them there are many from Russia. first and last names. hi

          Oooh .. Brothers pulled up! Keep it up ! We are not that kind of life .. Yeah .. You just do not be offended when YOU are treated according to the same principle ...
          1. pytar
            pytar April 22 2021 19: 13
            +2
            Oooh .. Brothers pulled up!

            Maxim, I'm not your brother. With people like you, I have nothing in common. But with normal Russians, yes! yes
            1. max702
              max702 April 22 2021 19: 25
              -1
              So it's not necessary with such brothers and enemies, although you are ENEMIES over the past centuries, because you are always on the side of the enemies of Russia .. So soon normal Russians for you will not be deceived and will not last forever ..
              1. pytar
                pytar April 22 2021 22: 19
                0
                over the past centuries ENEMIES and you are because you are always on the side of the enemies of Russia

                Over the past 142 years. We were in allied relations with Russia / USSR for 63 years, non-exhausted - 58 years, in unions outside of Russia - 21 years, and in a state of war, only once - in 2 years, and then on the Bulgarian territory. So your statements don't agree with the facts.
                So soon normal Russians will not be deceived for you and will not last forever ..

                It's not for you to speak on behalf of normal Russians.
                1. max702
                  max702 April 23 2021 07: 18
                  -1
                  Quote: pytar
                  It's not for you to speak on behalf of normal Russians.

                  Just for me, you do not decide anything .. And soon you will answer for a lot ..
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  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 22 2021 14: 47
    +3
    Oh, I forgot to say thank you to the Bulgarians fool I won’t ask about conscience for selling cartridges to scoundrels and murderers, the sale of ammunition speaks of a lack of conscience at all. ...
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim April 22 2021 14: 51
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      Oh, I forgot to say thank you to the Bulgarians fool I won’t ask about conscience for selling cartridges to scoundrels and murderers, the sale of ammunition speaks of a lack of conscience at all. ...

      How much work is ahead of Petrov and Boshirov, vacation probably does not shine No.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox April 22 2021 15: 28
        0
        Quite the opposite: "Complete the assignment for the bonus with the families on a cruise around the balloon for 2 months! But so that all this time the Can will burn and roast!"
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 April 22 2021 14: 53
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      the sale of ammunition speaks of a lack of conscience at all.

      Did they have it? Well, maybe only when the Turks slaughtered them. Brothers, tram-tararam. Two world wars, and even now the third is underway. And by the way, who owned the weapons in the Czech warehouses there? A private person from bulgaria? Comrades Majors P. and B. to pronounce censure for their irresponsible attitude towards mining the assigned object wassat wassat wassat
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 22 2021 14: 53
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      Oh, I forgot to say thank you to the Bulgarians fool I won’t ask about conscience for selling cartridges to scoundrels and murderers, the sale of ammunition speaks of a lack of conscience at all. ...

      Despite all the meanness, I continue to treat the Bulgarians as a people positively. The government constantly substitutes the people for many centuries. And the people constantly do not have enough gunpowder in their ass to bury this power.
      Py.Sy. However, as often, and with us.
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    5. Fitter65
      Fitter65 April 22 2021 15: 19
      0
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      This is your tradition - they drove raw materials to the Nazis until they started bombing you and then grabbed what they were fascists, otherwise you could trade with them.

      We traded but did not help, these are not many different things, by the way, your current owners with Hitler were trading longer, and the factories that belonged to your current owners on the territory of Germany worked properly almost throughout the war. Yes, we traded, but unlike Bulgaria, we were not allies of neither the Nazis nor the fascists. And Bulgaria was, and helped the Nazis in Greece and Yugoslavia, and in some places and simply replaced the Nazi divisions that were very much needed by Nazi Germany on the Eastern Front. We will not talk about the First World War, the Kaiser is not Hitler ...
      1. pytar
        pytar April 22 2021 17: 36
        +1
        We traded but did not help, these are not many different things, by the way, your current owners with Hitler were trading for a longer time, and the factories that belonged to your current owners on the territory of Germany worked properly almost throughout the war. Yes, we traded, but unlike Bulgaria, we were not allies of neither the Nazis nor the fascists. And Bulgaria was, and helped the Nazis in Greece and Yugoslavia, and in some places and simply replaced the Nazi divisions that were very much needed by Nazi Germany on the Eastern Front.

        Oleg Vereshchagin gives a very strong answer, like you, Alexander.

        Vereshchagin limited himself from the period before the entry into the war of the half-million Bulgarian army against Germany, and there still a lot of interesting things happened, so much so that the commander-in-chief of the BGA Gen. Stoychev marched to the Victory Parade on Red Square ...

        We will not talk about the First World War, the Kaiser is not Hitler ...

        That's right, do not touch the topic of the stupidest decision in the history of the Russian Empire, to start a war for other people's interests, the war that led to the death of the Empire. By the way, it turns out interestingly - in two of the bloodiest wars in history, Russia found itself in one team with the eternal enemy of the Slavs - Great Britain! And then the high moralists-patriots will begin to explain that "it is so interesting", "the situation is so laid down ..",. but others are not allowed! lol
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 April 23 2021 01: 12
          0
          Quote: pytar
          BGA Commander Gen. Stoychev marched to the Victory Parade on Red Square ...

          Because so I.V. Stalin decided, that's why he marched. Otherwise, he would have remained an ally of Nazi Germany.
          Quote: pytar
          By the way, it turns out interestingly - in two of the bloodiest wars in history, Russia found itself in one team with the eternal enemy of the Slavs - Great Britain!
          And of course Bulgaria was with the best friends of the Slavs? You and now, too, with the best friends of the Slavs, in the same military organization, from time to time poke at Russia. Let Oleg Vereshchagin give anyone he wants his answer, but the fact that Bulgaria was an ally of Nazi Germany will remain a fact.
          1. pytar
            pytar April 23 2021 08: 46
            -2
            Because so I.V. Stalin decided, that's why he marched.

            I wonder why I decided so? Probably because of the courage of the Bulgarians. soldiers, after all, they received several thousand Soviet awards and the BGA saluted 3 times in the Kremlin ...
            And of course Bulgaria was with the best friends of the Slavs? You are now also with the best friends of the Slavs, in the same military organization

            You do not have a monopoly over the Slavs. The list of your "friendship" with the Slavs is very long ...
            1. Fitter65
              Fitter65 April 23 2021 12: 31
              0
              Quote: pytar
              I wonder why I decided so? Probably because of the courage of the Bulgarians. soldiers, after all, they received several thousand Soviet awards and the BGA saluted 3 times in the Kremlin ..

              Well, why did he decide that, but simply because Bulgaria entered the sphere of Soviet influence. At the expense of the awardees
              In the period from the beginning of September 1944 until the end of the war in battles against the German army and its allies, the losses of the Bulgarian army amounted to 31 soldiers; 910 soldiers and officers of the Bulgarian army were awarded Soviet orders, 360 thousand servicemen were awarded the medal “For Victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War of 120-1941.
              So if people fought.
              Three times the Bulgarian People's Army was noted in the orders of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the USSR [
              Marked in the order and saluted three times. These are very different things.
              Quote: pytar
              You do not have a monopoly over the Slavs.

              And we do not claim this role. Why are you digging into Russia. Vaughn communicate with your "old friends" in the IV EU, Romania, Hungary - under the leadership of Germany.
    6. hydrox
      hydrox April 22 2021 15: 31
      0
      An intelligent person will not say that about assemblies, because if he sits down, then Chernobyl will seem like an explosion package.
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  • fuel oil
    fuel oil April 22 2021 15: 19
    +1
    What are you talking about? What conscience? A country that has always fought against Russia and conscience are incompatible ... And it didn’t matter the Russian Empire, the USSR or today's Russia. To the celebrations of liberation from the Turks, invite the Sultan! And not invite Russia. Sales of Poland, Bulgaria and Romania are the lot of these countries. Of course, ordinary people are different, but the leaders of these countries are chosen by the same ordinary people ... The current hegemon will say face and together will trample to the east.
    1. pytar
      pytar April 22 2021 17: 22
      -1
      To celebrate the liberation from the Turks, invite the Sultan! And not invite Russia.

      fuel oil, you self-identified with this fake ... bully And everything else in your post is in this vein. negative Change the training manual, it is old, it smells like mothballs.
      If I'm not mistaken about the recently adopted laws of the Russian Federation, punishment is provided for the spread of fakes ... wink
      1. fuel oil
        fuel oil April 23 2021 08: 05
        0
        Bulgaria celebrates its national holiday on March 3 - the Day of Liberation of its Country from the Ottoman Yoke. Turkish President Recep Erdogan was unexpectedly invited to the Shipka celebrations this year, The Bulgarian Times reported.

        Bulgaria will celebrate liberation from the Ottomans with Erdogan and without Russia
        Recall that from 1396 to 1878 Bulgaria was part of the Ottoman Empire. As a result of Russia's victory in the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-1878, the Treaty of San Stefano was signed between Russia and the Ottoman Empire, and Bulgaria gained independence.

        This day is a national holiday in Bulgaria, the event is widely celebrated throughout the country. But in recent years, representatives of Russia have not been invited to the celebrations, which provoked a large-scale discussion in the Bulgarian society.

        The Bulgarian authorities explain their decision by the fact that today Sofia has closer political contacts with the former enslaver, with Ankara, than with Russia. The main argument is this: more Turkish blood was shed in Bulgaria than Russian, and the Turkish military laid more of their lives here.

        Also, the reformers argue, the liberation of Bulgaria is a very controversial issue for the Bulgarian history. In their opinion, after 1878, after the "invasion of Russia", much worse times began in Bulgaria.

        The former head of the Turkish minority organization in Bulgaria, Movement for Rights and Freedoms, Lutvi Mestan (who, by the way, was dismissed for supporting the Turkish attack on the Su-24), like some of his followers, said that “Bulgarians have never lived better. than during the Ottoman Empire. "

        As a result of this decision of Sofia, the Bulgarians in London decided to celebrate the liberation of their country in front of the Russian embassy.

        Now it remains to wait and see how Erdogan will be received at the celebrations of Bulgarian independence and whether this will desecrate the main holiday of all Bulgarians.

        Recall that on February 19, the proposal of 73 deputies from the parties GERB, BSP, DPS, the Patriotic Front and the Bulgarian Democratic Center to create a temporary commission to study the facts and circumstances related to allegations of Russian and Turkish interference in the internal politics of Bulgaria was supported by 126 deputies, 19 were against, and 13 abstained.

        This decision was commented on by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova. According to her, the absurdity of this situation is expressed in the most absurd name of the commission. History really knows examples of a kind of "interference" of Russia in the internal affairs of Bulgaria, when a Russian soldier came to the territory of this country with arms in his hands in order to resist fascism and free his brothers from evil. The cynicism of such steps by the initiators also lies in the fact that the notorious Commission was created on the eve of the 138th anniversary of the liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottoman yoke.

        As Pravda.Ru reported, this year one of the top priorities in the work of the Bulgarian Ministry of Defense was the development of a national "Strategy for countering a hybrid model of warfare," including with Russia.

        The Bulgarian Foreign Ministry, despite the serious damage that the country suffers from joining the sanctions against Russia, and the absence of an unambiguous position on this issue in the government itself, has repeatedly advocated the preservation of the sanctions measures, calling them "the only instrument that Europe has" to restrain " Russian aggression, "and the head of the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry, Daniel Mitov, declared Russia and the Islamic State terrorist group the main threats to the foreign policy interests of the European Union.

        Meanwhile, since the end of January, rallies have been held in Bulgaria against the government's policy. The country is dying out, and corrupt officials prefer to look for an external enemy in the person of Russia, protest organizers say. Almost 700 thousand people in Bulgaria want to hold a referendum to change the current political system.

        Read the article on the English version of Pravda.Ru


        Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/news/world/1293995-bulgaria/
        1. pytar
          pytar April 23 2021 09: 03
          0
          Bulgaria celebrates its national holiday on March 3 - the Day of Liberation of its Country from the Ottoman Yoke. Turkish President Recep Erdogan was unexpectedly invited to the Shipka celebrations this year, The Bulgarian Times reported.

          You are a victim of an old fake - date 02.03.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX The fact that you repeat a long-refuted fake indicates that you are either deceived or a deceiver. negative
          Fake about Erdogan's invitation to a holiday in Bulgaria was invented by provocateurs
          https://piter.tv/event/V_Kremle_ne_poluchali_priglashenie_na_prazdnovanie_v_Bolgarii/
          https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/56d971219a794746aad94468
          https://sanktpeterburg.bezformata.com/listnews/priglashenii-erdogana-na-prazdnik-v-bolgariyu/44299357/https://www.stopfake.org/ru/fejk-bolgariya-vmesto-putina-priglasila-erdogana-na-den-osvobodzheniya-ot-turetskogo-iga/
          By the way, until 02.03.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX The Bulgarian Times website was unknown to anyone, with zero traffic. It's amazing how a fake publication of an unknown website builder was disseminated in huge circulations in Russia, literally at once! bully
          Moreover, I personally was at Shipki on 03.03.2016. There is also a video, no Erdogan was there, there was a Russian official delegation, which the people enthusiastically greeted!

          Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/news/world/1293995-bulgaria/

          I have been reading for a long time and marvel at what nonsense they are talking about! Then I looked at how the "authoritative historian" Oleg Airapetrov, in full serioz, commented on this topic on the TV channel Pravda-ru. As they say in truth, there was not a single gram of truth ... negative
  • pytar
    pytar April 22 2021 17: 12
    +2
    Oh, I forgot to say thank you to the Bulgarians

    Do not bother, among the owners there are many with Russian and other non-Bulgarian names. In fact, this is an international syndicate.
    I won't ask about conscience, the sale of ammunition speaks of a lack of conscience at all.

    The concept of "conscience" is unfamiliar to arms dealers. Nationality doesn't matter. Dengi does not smell ... Some formchani, deliberately or out of stupidity, focus on a specific nationality, "forgetting" about their sonar monitors in this category ... bully
  • Tagan
    Tagan April 22 2021 14: 54
    +1
    Quote: Thrifty
    Oh, I forgot to say thank you to the Bulgarians fool I won’t ask about conscience for selling cartridges to scoundrels and murderers, the sale of ammunition speaks of a lack of conscience at all. ...

    It's time to get used to it. Well these are the Bulgarians. "Brothers". Will sell to anyone without any old-fashioned prejudice. Barmaley also bought goods with them.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze April 22 2021 15: 13
      -1
      Will sell to anyone without any old-fashioned prejudice. Barmaley also bought goods with them.


      Tagan ... you are a stupid propagandist. We have sold with end-user certification to the USA and Saudi Arabia. All questions to them. Instead of kissing the Saudis' ass, in the desire to sell them something, you can send a note to them, break off relations, withdraw from the agreement with OPEC and punish them brutally for supporting the barmale ... laughing

      Or are there not enough eggs?
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich April 22 2021 15: 57
        +1
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Or are there not enough eggs?

        If necessary, Russia will come out from where it sees fit.
        But Bulgaria has not only eggs, nothing at all - a voiceless, weak-willed appendage of the United States and the EU, living on small handouts and at the expense of what remains of the built USSR, such as, for example, these notorious cartridge factories.
      2. vitvit123
        vitvit123 April 22 2021 16: 32
        +3
        Well, it’s not your nation’s talking about eggs ... in the military sense, you’re an empty place, you don’t .. we can have eggs, etc. , but you are not in space at all .. of course, it is normal to trade in weapons, but people speak in the context that you are our enemies .. so you are trying to prove the opposite by telling them that we are ourselves? Are you trying to say that you are our friends, brothers? Well, nevertheless, we understand that you are not even opponents now, you are always enemies, a hostile country .. so the meaning in the conversation is - he himself is - ...
    2. hydrox
      hydrox April 22 2021 15: 38
      0
      So it’s just our snot on a fist shook: others would have long ago, but several times sent several DRGs to Bulgaria under the leadership of the Boshirovs and Petrovs - you see, and in the Donbass there would be fewer killed ...
    3. pytar
      pytar April 22 2021 17: 16
      +1
      Well these are the Bulgarians. "Brothers". Will sell to anyone without any old-fashioned prejudice.

      Do not give up too much, there are many Russians among the "brothers" ... You will have to say goodbye to a lot of "prejudice" ... laughing
  • knn54
    knn54 April 22 2021 14: 55
    +5
    Bulgaria did a good job, sold it to a NATO ally.
    And ALL questions to the Poles.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan April 22 2021 14: 55
    0
    It is high time for Petrov and Boshirov to check (burn to hell) the arms factories in Bulgaria.

    Something the guys are not finalizing ((.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox April 22 2021 15: 42
      0
      There is no one to give the command, the FSB is shy about something, and the GRU is very busy with Czechs ...
      1. hydrox
        hydrox April 22 2021 16: 19
        0
        Something's coming out-svlch minus - you see, the moderators are asleep ... laughing
  • Operator
    Operator April 22 2021 14: 57
    -2
    Petrov and Boshirov have already bought tickets Moscow - Sofia bully
    1. pytar
      pytar April 22 2021 17: 17
      0
      Petrov and Boshirov have already bought tickets Moscow - Sofia

      They are eagerly awaited in Sofia ... we are waiting for a new series ... laughing
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk April 22 2021 14: 58
    +5
    Ukrainian logic:
    We are fighting in the Donbass because there is the Russian army there;
    We are not fighting in Crimea, because there is the Russian army there.
  • Antagonist
    Antagonist April 22 2021 15: 06
    +9
    via Poland from Bulgaria to Ukraine

    Why such difficulties? Cutting finance again? laughing
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 22 2021 15: 19
    0
    From Bulgaria via Poland: Ukraine purchased ammunition of Soviet calibers
    Eka is unseen, everything is as usual. "Malbrook" is going on a hike ... or not?
    1. cniza
      cniza April 22 2021 16: 06
      +2
      There are more than enough people wishing there ..., and then did not return for a long time (Malbrook) lol
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 22 2021 17: 36
        +1
        The chances are that Malbrook just won't come back ... great.
        1. cniza
          cniza April 22 2021 17: 39
          +2
          Yeah, close to 100%, they forgot French songs ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 22 2021 18: 32
            +1
            There is nothing to remember, a significant part of the horses.
            1. cniza
              cniza April 22 2021 20: 41
              +2
              It's a pity, they could live very peacefully and work for the good ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 22 2021 21: 09
                +1
                A lot of effort and money was invested so that people could not live peacefully, in a good-neighborly way ... now the owners are forcing them to work off their investments.
  • filalex79
    filalex79 April 22 2021 15: 26
    +2
    So the "brothers" were noted, whether they were wrong. They freed it on their own head.
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  • Peaceful SEO
    Peaceful SEO April 22 2021 15: 55
    +1
    But what about Ukraine tse Europa and the general transition to NATO standards?
  • pytar
    pytar April 22 2021 16: 01
    -1
    The purchase was made back in February this year, but it became known about it only now.

    Where does this information come from? The source is not specified, the article is unsigned ... request Are you a fake?
    At Eadaily.com. with m. March there is something like that, but there it is a question of rejected munitions, unsuitable for military use. It should be borne in mind that Eadaily.com. - the resource is registered in Moscow, previously presented as "foreign". There is such a practice - resources sponsored from Russia are issued as "opinions of a foreign observer", and then reprinted in Russian.
  • cniza
    cniza April 22 2021 16: 02
    +1
    True, they did not say anything where they want to build and with what funds.


    Awaiting sponsors ...
  • Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 22 2021 16: 12
    +1
    As I understand it, non-specialized cartridges were sold for SVD (not a sniper version). The accuracy is lower, of course.
    1. Split
      Split April 22 2021 21: 07
      +1
      Depends on the range, I had to literally shoot from the tape in bulk, while I was reloading the magazines, I generally fired from the bolt. But the difference is special they, which on the letter h ... did not have time to feel. 250-300 meters. For a long distance, the difference, I think, of course, will be (but here our machine gunner helped me, he loaded every 3 BZT wassat that was fun ... ugh .... ugh ... ugh good )
      1. Konstantin Gogolev
        Konstantin Gogolev April 22 2021 22: 12
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        At 500 m, the difference is already reverberating. The tips are different. The sniper is heavier, the correction for the wind is taken into account in a different way.
        1. Split
          Split April 22 2021 22: 28
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          7N14 / 37 and BZT have similar ballistics, here the problem is more in tolerances, but as already mentioned, at Marksman distances than the SVD itself is, in view of the automation there is no significant difference. There is always a possibility to make the 2nd shot ( repeat though I almost landed a machine-gun belt ... what the sight was knocked down, I had to shoot with BZTs, in fact ... thank God, it cost only shrapnel in the armor, though half an arm was proportioned with a shrapnel)
  • Tagan
    Tagan April 22 2021 17: 58
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    Quote: vitvit123
    Well, it’s not your nation’s talking about eggs ... in the military sense, you’re an empty place, you don’t .. we can have eggs, etc. , but you are not in space at all .. of course, it is normal to trade in weapons, but people speak in the context that you are our enemies .. so you are trying to prove the opposite by telling them that we are ourselves? Are you trying to say that you are our friends, brothers? Well, nevertheless, we understand that you are not even opponents now, you are always enemies, a hostile country .. so the meaning in the conversation is - he himself is - ...

    Do not prevent a person from posing as "Shipka's hero"))
  • Press
    Press April 22 2021 19: 55
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    Oh, to send our Sudoplatovs all over Europe, let their warehouses sparkle ...
  • Split
    Split April 22 2021 21: 02
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    They seemed to be switching to Nata there ?! Clowns ... What didn’t let Nata ... go? laughing