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"Officially notified": Turkey finally excluded from the F-35 production program

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The United States nevertheless excluded Turkey from the F-35 fifth generation fighter program, despite all Ankara's attempts to negotiate with Washington. This is reported by Turkish media.


According to the Anadolu agency, the United States has sent Turkey an official notice of exclusion from the F-35 program. Before that, it was simply suspended, Turkish enterprises continued to produce components for the F-35. The reason for the exclusion is the Russian S-400, purchased by Turkey.

The United States has never forgiven the Turks for the demarche with the Russian anti-aircraft system, despite all the persuasions of Ankara and the arguments that it cited. After the official exclusion of Turkey from the program, the production of some components, which are still produced at Turkish enterprises, will be gradually transferred to other countries. This will be done in 2021-2022.

Meanwhile, Lockheed Martin excluded Turkey from the list of participants in the F-35 project back in the spring of last year. Several US senators, outraged by the production of F-2020 components at Turkish enterprises, made the same demand in the summer of 35.

In turn, Erdogan demanded that the United States either return the funds spent on the purchase of the F-35 or supply the aircraft. Apparently, he did not wait for either one or the other, Ankara was nevertheless thrown out of the program. Time will tell what Erdogan will answer.
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  1. Vol4ara
    Vol4ara April 22 2021 14: 07
    +12
    Oh, how is it, how is it. Even if the old perdun recognizes the Armenian genocide, and everything goes to this, then uuuuu ...
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter April 22 2021 14: 14
      +8
      Quote: Vol4ara
      Even if the old perdun recognizes the Armenian genocide

      So he admits ... what it costs him. The main thing is that the money will not be returned to the Turks. A lot of money, by the way.
      1. For example
        For example April 22 2021 14: 23
        -2
        Even if the old perdun recognizes the Armenian genocide

        So what?
        Germans are Nazis. Mustache was condemned. Mustache recognized.
        The tribunal was.
        They took me.

        Now the Germans support the Nazis of Ukraine. And they wanted to spit on conviction and tribunal.
        And they will say that this is all in the past.

        And people like Italians, Romanians, French and other Finns changed their shoes during the war.

        Talking about the Poles is just vulgar.

        So are the Turks.

        I think that the Turks were lucky with the F-35.
        They will save more than they have lost.

        In addition to pAnts, this plane requires a lot of dough for maintenance.
        And how much more effective is it for the Turks in comparison with the existing F-16?
        The big question.

      2. loki565
        loki565 April 22 2021 14: 42
        +4
        So he admits ... what it costs him. The main thing is that the money will not be returned to the Turks. A lot of money, by the way.

        It is difficult to say exactly how much Turkey lost, but some believe that the damage for the entire time of the program could amount to $ 9 billion
      3. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 22 2021 16: 46
        +2
        "The main thing is that the money will not be returned to the Turks" ///
        ---
        The money will be returned. In such contracts, this is strictly.
        1. Hwostatij
          Hwostatij April 22 2021 16: 54
          0
          You are apparently familiar. Would you like to share?
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 April 23 2021 00: 54
            0

            Hwostatij
            Yesterday, 16: 54
            NEW

            0
            You are apparently familiar. Would you like to share?
            It knows everything)) laughing , and contracts between Merikatosia and the Turks are his bread, in the sense of matzah. wink
      4. Kaman
        Kaman April 23 2021 08: 30
        0
        Perdogan and the F-35 are not a couple, not a couple, not a couple ... And this is great, all Turkish neighbors will be calmer, and so will Russia.
    2. Borik
      Borik April 22 2021 14: 17
      +5
      What do you mean by uuuuu ... ???????????. There is a lot to suggest here. And the fact that Turkey will withdraw from NATO (although it is unlikely she will do it) Decides to buy our SU-57 (in my opinion, it is undesirable for the Turks to sell it)
      1. marchcat
        marchcat April 22 2021 14: 34
        +1
        The EU did not accept it, they imposed sanctions on the S-400, and now they have thrown it out of the F-35 program. At least hang yourself ... but the Turks have Russia, she will sell if necessary.
        1. bayard
          bayard April 22 2021 17: 45
          +2
          Quote: marchcat
          but the Turks have Russia, she will sell if that is necessary.

          It is unlikely at the moment - because of the position in Ukraine, Crimea, encroachments on Russian lands. The proceeds from Russian tourists have already been deprived of them, tomatoes and other gifts of nature are under threat ... The nuclear power plant is still under construction ... the pipe is almost empty ...
          And now they are cooperating with England about fighters. And not only .
          Where the US leaves, England comes / returns. And it is England and its special services that are pushing Turkey today to expand into the zone of Russian interests.
          So England will make a fighter for them - Rolls-Royce and By-Systems will help.
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 22 2021 14: 32
      -3
      Quote: Vol4ara
      Oh, how is it, how is it. Even if the old perdun recognizes the Armenian genocide, and everything goes to this, then uuuuu ...

      Russia seems to have recognized the 1915 Genocide long ago.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 22 2021 14: 39
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Russia seems to have recognized the 1915 Genocide long ago.

        In a clumsy attempt to joke, so as not to inadvertently offend the owner, he substituted himself even more ...
        And you are funny in your servility. laughing
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi April 22 2021 15: 31
          +2
          Quote: Paranoid50
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Russia seems to have recognized the 1915 Genocide long ago.

          In a clumsy attempt to joke, so as not to inadvertently offend the owner, he substituted himself even more ...
          And you are funny in your servility. laughing

          Treat your complexes yourself. Why are you so substituting a pened by everyone?
      2. For example
        For example April 22 2021 14: 41
        +10
        Aron, the people of Israel do not recognize Crimea as Russian.
        This is contrary to history.
        Contrary to the truth.

        Then what is the meaning of these confessions and non-confessions?

        The history of the past thirty years has turned all these confessions into a farce.
        Moreover, it is a profanation.

        The Jew heads the state that recognizes the Nazis.
        I'm talking about Ukraine.

        So what????
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi April 22 2021 15: 30
          +2
          Quote: For example
          Aron, the people of Israel do not recognize Crimea as Russian.
          This is contrary to history.
          Contrary to the truth.

          Then what is the meaning of these confessions and non-confessions?

          The history of the past thirty years has turned all these confessions into a farce.
          Moreover, it is a profanation.

          The Jew heads the state that recognizes the Nazis.
          I'm talking about Ukraine.

          So what????

          The inhabitants of Russia do not recognize Judea and Samaria as Israeli. And what?
          1. For example
            For example April 22 2021 17: 21
            +1
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Judea and Samaria by Israel. And what?

            And where is it?

            I know Samara. A primordially Russian city.

            Biblical names can be called any land and occupy on this basis?

            The Arabs who have lived in these lands for centuries did not even suspect that someone named their lands differently.

            The Jew heads the state that recognizes the Nazis.
            Doesn't he bother you?
            Everything is okay?
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  2. rocket757
    rocket757 April 22 2021 14: 08
    +3
    "Officially notified": Turkey finally excluded from the F-35 production program
    Somehow one-to-one .... the new administration of the minke whales is not killing the Sultan, at all!
    Two "presents" to him, one after the other!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 22 2021 14: 13
      +4
      How will Erdogan respond?
      -He will sharpen the scimitar!
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 22 2021 14: 17
        +4
        and get the fuck stabbed!
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 22 2021 14: 22
          +2
          Preliminary, the second S-400 regiment will purchase.
          But he cannot see the Su-57E as his own ears.
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 22 2021 14: 24
            +1
            now it's not a fact
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 April 22 2021 17: 37
              -1
              IMHO - fact. Su-35 for many thanks.
              Nobody else will give him the 5th generation.
              Even China. He will remember how he threw it from the air defense. hi
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 22 2021 17: 34
            0
            If 100 orders - Russia will supply developers with the same money should be earned as the state.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 April 22 2021 17: 35
              -1
              Then we will wind up to knock.
              Aliyev threatens to break through the corridor to Nakhichevan by force.
              And there are our border guards.
        2. NIKN
          NIKN April 22 2021 14: 24
          +1
          Quote: novel xnumx
          and get the fuck stabbed!

          Here, oddly enough, he will follow the path "You will not wait" smile
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 22 2021 14: 25
            +2
            yes, not a samurai ...
            1. NIKN
              NIKN April 22 2021 14: 39
              +4
              - We will judge you by the laws of the mountains.
              - I agree, I choose the Swiss Alps. laughing
        3. Revolver
          Revolver April 22 2021 19: 56
          0
          Quote: novel xnumx
          and get the fuck stabbed!

          Not. Not in local or even regional traditions. Harakiri is for samurai. And he looks more at how to open the head of someone else.
  3. Piramidon
    Piramidon April 22 2021 14: 09
    +1
    But this is how they waved the Yankees and the EU on the Russian-Ukrainian issue. The sultana tried in vain. And he clawed at Russia and did not impress the minke whales.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara April 22 2021 14: 15
      +1
      Quote: Piramidon
      But this is how they waved the Yankees and the EU on the Russian-Ukrainian issue. The sultana tried in vain. And he clawed at Russia and did not impress the minke whales.

      Turkey is already a big player and doesn't care about the EU. It is more profitable for her to see Crimea in weak Ukrainian hands, because in this case it will be much easier to take it away
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 April 22 2021 14: 23
        +8
        From the very beginning, Turkey flew to Crimea, because the Americans do not care about Turkey's interests in the region if they do not coincide with the American plans. Now there will be no talk at all, because Crimea is home! hi
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 22 2021 14: 34
        +4
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Turkey is already a big player and doesn't care about the EU

        She was a major player during the heyday of the Ottoman Empire in the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries. After that, she was repeatedly given a fez and she remained on the sidelines, constantly appealing to the larger players. But Erdogan did not study history and is trying to become another Ataturk.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver April 22 2021 19: 58
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          But Erdogan did not study history and is trying to become another Ataturk.

          So far, everything that Erdogan is doing is aimed at destroying Ataturk's legacy.
    2. VORON538
      VORON538 April 22 2021 14: 16
      +3
      The Naglo-Saxons need loyal vassals, not those who try to act independently. Whatever you say, Erdogan is a strong leader interested in the prosperity of his state, not like the heads of satellites of states from the EU, who are ingratiatingly looking towards the states, they say, suddenly the owner will impose sanctions ... : hi. And okay JV 2, here-Russia, well, and Germany, but how many times have Americans already stalled Europeans, European companies when trying to move away from the line (party) of the State Department hi
    3. novel66
      novel66 April 22 2021 14: 18
      +2
      yeah, I didn't feed the rabbits and it's uncomfortable in front of the guys
  4. Tagan
    Tagan April 22 2021 14: 11
    0
    They also robbed.)) Soyuznichki, itit-beat.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 April 22 2021 14: 23
      +1
      Quote: Tagan
      They also robbed.)) Soyuznichki, itit-beat.

      Another proof that NATO is primarily a trade organization. And she is much more concerned about her economic prosperity than about any other success.
      The fact that the Sultan can now ask for planes from us is, of course, not bad for us from the financial bell tower. But from another point of view, the absence of such a large financial burden as the exploitation of controversial penguins implies is not ice for us.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 22 2021 14: 45
        -1
        Quote: NDR-791
        Another proof that NATO is primarily a trade organization.

        Absolutely all of their organizations are tied to funding and feeding their boss.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 April 22 2021 14: 46
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          Absolutely all of their organizations are tied to funding and feeding their chief executive.

          Well, here who guards what, then has. They guard the printing press and have it accordingly.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver April 22 2021 20: 04
      0
      Quote: Tagan
      They also robbed.)) Soyuznichki, itit-beat.

      Where will Erdogan from NATO go? If he comes out (well, or he comes out), then very soon he will have a conflict with Greece, and NATO will act in accordance with Article 5.
  5. Sarboz
    Sarboz April 22 2021 14: 12
    0
    Turkey finally excluded from the F-35 production program

    A holy place is never empty. A new window of opportunity has emerged for deliveries from Russia.
  6. knn54
    knn54 April 22 2021 14: 16
    -2
    So the Pentagon seems to have postponed (indefinitely) the mass production of the F-35.
  7. Alien From
    Alien From April 22 2021 14: 17
    +6
    The Sultan thought to sit on two chairs at the same time. It didn't work out.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 22 2021 15: 04
      +2
      Quote: Alien From
      The Sultan thought to sit on two chairs at the same time. It didn't work out.

      Not according to Erke fez. No Ataturk from him.
    2. Brturin
      Brturin April 22 2021 15: 18
      +1
      Quote: Alien From
      The Sultan thought to sit on two chairs at the same time.

      two chairs ... but no matter how voters knocked out something else from under him ... the sultan is of course, but elections, and the opposition is not asleep ...
      Turkey's total gross reserves, including gold and hard world currencies held in the country's central bank, have fallen by more than 15% since the beginning of 2021, to $ 89,3 billion in April. Net international reserves fell more than 75% to $ 9,9 billion, while money taken from banks in short-term swaps reached tens of billions of dollars. According to Bloomberg calculations, if these swaps are removed from the net reserves of the Turkish financial regulator, they will become negative. “Where is $ 128 billion?” - banners with such a question addressed to the government of Turkish President Erdogan and the AKP headed by him.
      https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/04/21/istoshchenie-radi-spaseniya-erdogan-nazval-obem-potrachennoy-valyuty
  8. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 22 2021 14: 18
    .
    They start chatting, Turkey has a strong intelligence, they have aces, no one can catch them, They steal technology
    1. Konstantin Gogolev
      Konstantin Gogolev April 22 2021 14: 41
      +1
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      Turkey has strong intelligence, they have aces, no one can catch them


      "And they are also strong in raiding operations"). You praise everyone, I noticed.
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 22 2021 14: 47
        -5
        No, in raids SAS is strong, Turkish Burgundy berets in ambushes Ases
        1. Konstantin Gogolev
          Konstantin Gogolev April 22 2021 14: 54
          +1
          Over the past two weeks, you have ranked our Airborne Forces, the English SAS, and the American Delta among the good raiders. Check it out, I'm sure of that.
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 22 2021 15: 00
            -6
            No, Delta is a secret service
            US Raids Do 75 Ranger Regiment Well
            Our Airborne Forces, yes, they shoot accurately like a cowboy and run fast like his horse, our Airborne Buggy with a powerful engine and good suspension, where you can install a SPIKE, would not have been the price!
      2. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 22 2021 14: 54
        -2
        Yes, and a strange sale from 400, because the probable enemy ... no matter how Turkish spies hurry up here
        Scary to live
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 22 2021 15: 06
      0
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      They will chatter their own

      Their Xerox machine is far from Chinese. They will get tired of "zabatsivat". So far, there is enough intelligence to pull oil from Syria.
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 22 2021 15: 21
        -3
        Well, then the UAVs were jabbing, the helicopter carrier was jabbering, the frigate and destroyers were jabbering, the submarine was jabbing, the attack helicopter was jabbing, the cruise missile was jolted perfectly ... Duc for me, the Turks have military electronics better than Chinese
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 22 2021 14: 22
    0
    Why was Erdogan offended by a madman? laughing Now, as soon as it goes, cry. The Turkish hot guy is not a French boy or an old German woman for you (although, lastly, she kicks up). laughing
  10. El Chuvachino
    El Chuvachino April 22 2021 14: 23
    0
    Voyaka, are you going to celebrate? drinks
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 22 2021 16: 52
      +4
      drinks
      This is really good news for Israel.
      F-35 in Erdogan's hands is a threat to Israel.
      Erdogan deliberately goes to incite the conflict with Israel,
      ("Israel is the enemy of Islam," etc.) to raise the rating of its voters
      - peasant Islamic fundamentalists.
      But there is hope that Erdogan will be trampled in the elections, and
      Turkey will return to the normal path of development.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver April 22 2021 20: 07
        -1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        But there is hope that Erdogan will be trampled in the elections, and
        Turkey will return to the normal path of development.

        There is. But, alas, not great. Because most Turks are Islamists.
        Quote: voyaka uh
        among their voters
        - peasant Islamic fundamentalists
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 22 2021 20: 17
          +1
          Turks are Muslims. But this is not a reason to quarrel with Israel. Even the Emirates began to be friends with us.
          And political Islam is promoted only by Erdogan's party. In the capital Istanbul, for example, he has little support. And in the villages there are many.
        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik April 22 2021 20: 18
          -1
          Erdogan does not have the same conditions as Putin's, he is under pressure from all sides. From the point of view of Islamists, he is too moderate. The economic crisis in Turkey is closer to 23 and Erdogan is gone. But this will change relations with Russia for the worse, and with the United States for the better. Party rating:

          AK Parti (Erdogan's party): 33,2%
          CHP (Kemalist Party): 26,8%
          İYİ Parti (left-wing nationalists): 13,8%
          HDP (ultra-left pro-Kurdish): 9,8%
          MHP (right-wing nationalists): 6,9%
          Gelecek Partisi (Davutoglu): 3,1%
          DEVA Partisi (Babajan): 2,9%
          Saadet Partisi (Karamollaoglu and Asilturk): 1,3
  11. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 22 2021 14: 25
    -3
    Yes, the Yankees got the Turks and threw them! This is just the beginning, then the sanctions will be introduced, and the Yankees will recognize the Armenian genocide, and they will demand compensation from the Turks.
  12. Tagan
    Tagan April 22 2021 14: 37
    +1
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    They start chatting, Turkey has a strong intelligence, they have aces, no one can catch them, They steal technology

    If only the screwdriver assembly was involved. Will they steal and look like rams at a new gate?
    1. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O April 22 2021 14: 46
      -3
      No, they can buy ours too, since the Sands can speak Turkish, and they love Turks in Rostec
  13. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze April 22 2021 14: 48
    +1
    The problem is not in the Turks themselves, but in the fact that Yerdogan and these things are Islamists.

    I personally and attentively read Davutoglu's "Strategic Depth", under whose influence the idea of ​​yerdogan was born. So - this is the narrow-minded Islamists and ekspanziya and the murder of infidels their all.

    So I greet everyone who breaks their horns - Americans, Russians or Martians. These religious packs need to be cleaned up with carpet bombing before the business is done.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver April 22 2021 20: 14
      0
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      The problem is not in the Turks themselves, but in the fact that Yerdogan and these things are Islamists.

      Yes, it is clear that you, Bulgarians, love Erdogan and Turks in general so much that you would be happy to express our condolences to them on the premature death. However, both Greeks and Serbs will compete with you in this.
    2. aslanismaili611
      aslanismaili611 April 24 2021 11: 05
      -1
      Keyser Soze. The problem is not with the Turks or the Islamists. The problem is the neighborhood, and this has long been known. Doesn't your sympathy for Tehran prove it? Before the Turks, the most hated enemy of the Greeks was the Persians. To the Strategic Depth, you should read Plutarch. His Peerless Comparative Biography. Islam, and like any religion, ideology, has absolutely nothing to do with it.
  14. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 April 22 2021 14: 57
    0
    Good news, let them gnaw, the less "love" they have, the better.
  15. Dart
    Dart April 22 2021 16: 16
    0
    How long will it take for the first penguin to find himself on the preparation in the "office"?
  16. Tagan
    Tagan April 22 2021 20: 32
    +1
    Quote: Nagan
    Quote: Tagan
    They also robbed.)) Soyuznichki, itit-beat.

    Where will Erdogan from NATO go? If he comes out (well, or he comes out), then very soon he will have a conflict with Greece, and NATO will act in accordance with Article 5.

    I don’t think that NATO (in the form of mattresses, of course) is profitable to have Turkey as an adversary. Then they automatically lose additional leverage against Russia and get a new hemorrhage on their bottom line.
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 23 2021 07: 05
    0
    Do the Turks have any secrets about the production of the F-35? Perhaps a convenient occasion to ask around?
  18. Basarev
    Basarev April 24 2021 09: 08
    -1
    Do not flatter yourself. For the sake of forgiveness, Turkey will be ready to take even the most desperate steps. For example, all these air defense systems should be given to the States, even in violation of the contract with Russia. This is quite expected, especially considering that no one takes Russia seriously in those parts.