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US press: Biden intends to recognize the Armenian genocide

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US President Joseph Biden intends to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide.


We are talking about the events that took place at the beginning of the last century on the territory of the Ottoman Empire, when the Turkish authorities carried out the deportation and massacres of the Armenian population.

This was reported by the American newspaper Wall Street Journal, citing informed sources.

The US press notes that last month the Foreign Relations Committee of the United States Congress proposed that the President recognize the 1915 genocide of the Armenian people. Congressmen referred to the fact that, not yet in the presidency, Biden had already called these events "genocide", so now they are asking him to officially confirm his point of view.

The previous head of the White House, Donald Trump, did not do this, so as not to spoil relations with Ankara. Referring to the events of 1915, he used the Armenian name "Mets Yeghern", which translates as "great atrocity". During his presidency, Congress has repeatedly called on the leader of the state to officially recognize the Armenian genocide and adopted appropriate resolutions, but Trump refused.

In 1915, about 1,5 million Armenians were killed in the Ottoman Empire. These acts were recognized as genocide in 23 countries of the world, including Russia. Official Ankara does not recognize the death of Armenians on Ottoman territory during the First World War.
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  1. For example
    For example April 22 2021 09: 12
    +18
    It's time to recognize the genocide of Russians in Ukraine.
    The prohibition to speak the native language.
    Russians are "not citizens" in the Tribaltic.

    How's that?
    And this is at the moment.

    Open your eyes.
    1. Runoway
      Runoway April 22 2021 09: 33
      +13
      It's time to recognize the genocide of Russians in Ukraine

      Well, firstly, not only in Ukraine, and secondly, why do you need Biden's confession that the ruler of the world was deciding?
    2. Vita vko
      Vita vko April 22 2021 09: 33
      +17
      Quote: For example
      How's that?

      So is the genocide of American Indians.
      1. lucul
        lucul April 22 2021 11: 34
        0
        So is the genocide of American Indians.

        Some of the Philistines were genocidal altogether to zero. And silence ....
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar April 22 2021 12: 01
          +3
          Quote: lucul

          Some of the Philistines were genocidal altogether to zero. And silence ....

          Assimilated with the Greeks after the conquests of Alexander the Great - they themselves came from Crete and have always been under the significant influence of Greek culture.
          However, this does not negate the seizure of Jerusalem by the Jewish king David, contrary to international law. The city must be given back to its owners and founders - the Ibuseans. It is necessary to find them and start negotiations with them. In the absence of these, begin cloning the bones of archaeological excavations using DNA, and then immediately begin negotiations on the clones' coming of age.
          1. Roma 1977
            Roma 1977 April 22 2021 13: 33
            +3
            King David - under the Tribunal of History !!! ILM (Ivusean Lives Matter)! )))
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar April 22 2021 14: 53
              0
              ILM - Ivusean Lesbian Movement. It will be more interesting this way wink
    3. max702
      max702 April 22 2021 10: 14
      +4
      Here it is necessary to recognize the genocide of Russians since 1917 .. Throughout the former Russian Empire ..
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 April 22 2021 10: 37
        +4
        In the sense - since 1917? And from the XNUMXth century A.D. what happened then?
        1. max702
          max702 April 22 2021 10: 40
          0
          Since 1917, it is easier to count because the documents are available .. The number of Russian population then, and the number of Russian population today ..
          1. Roma 1977
            Roma 1977 April 22 2021 10: 44
            +6
            Since 1917, the Russian population has grown steadily, with a break for 1941-45 and 1991-2021. Which of these two periods will we consider as real genocide?
            1. max702
              max702 April 22 2021 11: 16
              +1
              Quote: Roma-1977
              Since 1917, the Russian population has grown steadily, with a break for 1941-45 and 1991-2021. Which of these two periods will we consider as real genocide?

              How much did it grow? In 1917 86 million in 2010 111 million .. 25 million over 100 years is this growth? Seriously?
              1. Roma 1977
                Roma 1977 April 22 2021 11: 23
                +4
                Yes. 25 million is a very big increase. For example, over the next 100 years, the number of Russians will not only not increase, but will also decrease. Growth of 25 million can only be dreamed of. Russians have been dying out since 1991. Before that, they did not die out.
                1. lucul
                  lucul April 22 2021 11: 36
                  +1
                  Yes. 25 million is a very big increase

                  Yes ? If you look at the growth rate of the population of Ingushetia from 1817 to 1917, you will be very surprised.
                  And then the communists came and broke Domostroy on the knee and the growth stopped immediately.
                  1. max702
                    max702 April 22 2021 11: 47
                    0
                    Quote: lucul
                    Yes. 25 million is a very big increase

                    Yes ? If you look at the growth rate of the population of Ingushetia from 1817 to 1917, you will be very surprised.
                    And then the communists came and broke Domostroy on the knee and the growth stopped immediately.

                    So the person looked at the tsiferku in 25 million and decided that it was hoo! And in fact it is genocide .. Even Mendeleev said by 1950 in Russia there will be 500 million population with predominantly Russian .. Well, where are they? Apparently, not only Mendeleev believed in the figure of 500 million, but also "partners" from across the hill .. Here's 111 million for you today .. By a miracle ...
                    1. Roma 1977
                      Roma 1977 April 22 2021 12: 17
                      +4
                      Mendeleev lived in the 19th century, in a purely agrarian patriarchal country. He could not even imagine what the industrial structure of the economy was. And simply to extrapolate the rate of population growth, taking the birth rates of the mid-19th century as a constant, for a hundred years ahead is stupid. If a nation is mired in sybarism, no one Mendeleev with the communists will help it. And the Rubicon is exactly 1991, not 1917.
                  2. Roma 1977
                    Roma 1977 April 22 2021 12: 03
                    +8
                    Under the communists, growth continued for itself, only the pace decreased due to accelerated industrialization and urbanization. But the communists left - and the people began to die out. For 30 years, the communists do not interfere with reproduction, but abortion clinics work in three shifts, and the consumer society is not even close to ensuring its own reproduction. Tellingly, all developed countries fell into a demographic hole, from which there is no way out, and without any communists. The Invisible Hand of the Free Market has made having and raising children an economically disadvantageous investment. Even state incentive programs do not help.
                    1. max702
                      max702 April 22 2021 12: 28
                      -1
                      Quote: Roma-1977
                      But the communists left - and the people began to die out.

                      This process was so successfully launched that even after they had completely done everything and the people said enough, their business was going on a knurled one, the people did not grow potatoes .. In a year or two, nothing can be fixed here, a couple of generations are needed ..
                      Quote: Roma-1977
                      The Invisible Hand of the Free Market has made having and raising children an economically disadvantageous investment. Even state incentive programs do not help.

                      Duc curators of the communists are the very people who are the "Hand of the Free Market", they had RI like a bone in their throat, on their denyuzhki the genocide of the Russians was organized (VOR 1917) in Russia, in other countries they acted by different methods, and today attempts to get away from this modern Russia is docked in the bud ..
                      1. Roma 1977
                        Roma 1977 April 22 2021 12: 35
                        +3
                        Uh-huh. It was within the framework of the genocide of the Russians that the communists launched large-scale social programs in the form of free universal health care, education, labor leaves, maternity, retirement benefits and all kinds of benefits. But nothing, a lot of the remnants of the communists have already been canceled, soon the people will again begin to multiply for three, in the light of torches.
                      2. max702
                        max702 April 22 2021 12: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: Roma-1977
                        Uh-huh. It was within the framework of the genocide of the Russians that the communists launched large-scale social programs in the form of free universal health care, education, labor leaves, maternity, retirement benefits and all kinds of benefits. But nothing, a lot of the remnants of the communists have already been canceled, soon the people will again begin to multiply for three, in the light of torches.

                        Yeah, especially the Russians in these conditions bred well .. You do not confuse them with the rest of the 14 fraternal peoples?
                      3. Roma 1977
                        Roma 1977 April 22 2021 13: 30
                        +1
                        No, I don't. The communists created social guarantees for all peoples. This is how they differed from the Nazis. There were, of course, at first excesses in the national question, but even then it was very far from the phenomena of the modern "BLM" type.
                      4. max702
                        max702 April 22 2021 14: 08
                        -1
                        Quote: Roma-1977
                        The communists created social guarantees for all peoples.

                        Are you sure about this? And how do you like this fact, in 14 republics of the USSR had their own academies of sciences, but in the RSFSR not .. In 14 republics there were republican communist pariahs, but in the RSFSR there were no .. Russians would not deserve their communist party? And believe the facts of a very different approach to Russians in the USSR, there will be a couple of three volumes .. About the standard of living in the RSFSR and the other 14 republics, I think there is no need to remind?
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre April 22 2021 12: 45
          +1
          In 1917 86 million in 2010 111 million .. 25 million over 100 years is this growth?
          That is, there were no fascist camps, atrocities on the territory and other things? Which millions of people were put under the knife. You demographics are modestly in the shade. To expose the alleged genocide in the peacetime of socialism. Clearly ...
          1. max702
            max702 April 22 2021 17: 06
            -2
            Quote: abrakadabre
            In 1917 86 million in 2010 111 million .. 25 million over 100 years is this growth?
            That is, there were no fascist camps, atrocities on the territory and other things? Which millions of people were put under the knife. You demographics are modestly in the shade. To expose the alleged genocide in the peacetime of socialism. Clearly ...

            And where did fascism come from, and so on, when millions of people were put under the knife? Look at the root, not at the consequences .. Even tells me that RI would have resisted, and if she had received everything that was due to it as a result of the First World War, then there would be no talk of any Hitler .. The only trouble would be Russia too strong to it could have been genocidal like this, but under the control of the Bolsheviks everything worked out great .. You look at the result, not at the processing process ..
            1. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre April 23 2021 10: 09
              0
              And where did fascism come from, and so on, when millions of people were put under the knife?
              Who let it in? Where did you let it go? When did you let it go? Why did you let it go? Having already said A, talk to B. Under the knife, international imperialism has let it go. I started it at the beginning of the 20th century, organizing the First World War. For what? - so free territories ended that could be colonized. And it took a redivision of the world. Because the piglet, that is, the planet Earth, has finite dimensions, and the appetites of capitalism are limitless.
              1. max702
                max702 April 23 2021 13: 01
                0
                Quote: abrakadabre
                Who let it in? Where did you let it go? When did you let it go? Why did you let it go? You have already said A, talk to B. Under the knife, international imperialism has let it go.

                Communists at the behest of world imperialism ..
                1. abrakadabre
                  abrakadabre April 25 2021 10: 06
                  0
                  Communists at the behest of world imperialism ..
                  However, it's a mess in your head ...
                2. max702
                  max702 April 25 2021 13: 03
                  0
                  Quote: abrakadabre
                  Communists at the behest of world imperialism ..
                  However, it's a mess in your head ...

                  Look who financed them, where all the fiery revolutionaries came from, ask about Trotsky and his comrades .. There is a lot of everything ..
  • Svarog
    Svarog April 22 2021 09: 13
    -7
    Well, he admits .. well, Erdogan will burst into an angry tirade .. and then what?
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 April 22 2021 09: 19
      +15
      And then we ask: Well, what about Erdogan? Did your Ukrainians help you? bully
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 22 2021 09: 27
        -8
        Quote: Alex777
        And then we ask: Well, what about Erdogan? Did your Ukrainians help you? bully

        Erdogan was going to be friends with Ukraine with the support of Great Britain .. it's all a game, but in this case from the US side it is the principle of "divide and rule". History repeats itself and the Anglo-Saxons are making a serious bet on Turkey, and Erdogan, along the way, does not forget to skim the cream off this. The obvious goal is to unleash a war .. and so that would be without nuclear weapons.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 22 2021 09: 41
          +9
          No matter what goals they all have in Ukraine, for now it turns out like this:
          - we are working out the interaction of units and formations of the whole country,
          - Zelensky and his hop-company are sitting idle and wasted money firing,
          - In Belarus, all plans have failed, and instead of overcoming there is one zrada.
          And now we must either go further, but it’s scary or inglorious to retreat.
          The retreat is fraught with the fact that the overseas master will come to an agreement with Moscow.
          This is where the schirim and Svidomo go in such a desperate situation?
          bully
          1. Svarog
            Svarog April 22 2021 09: 44
            -7
            Quote: Alex777
            The retreat is fraught with the fact that the overseas master will come to an agreement with Moscow.

            Ukrainians will be happy .. they understand what will happen to them if it comes to war ..
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 April 22 2021 09: 49
              +5
              Ukrainians will be happy .. they understand what will happen to them if it comes to war ..

              I believe that the agreements between Russia and the United States will not be in favor of Ukraine at all.
              I admit that its "statehood", as a result, may suffer no less than in the war.
    2. figwam
      figwam April 22 2021 09: 33
      +6
      Quote: Svarog
      Well, Erdogan will burst into an angry tirade .. and then what?

      Well, let them swear, it's only better for us.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 22 2021 09: 42
        -8
        Quote: figvam
        Quote: Svarog
        Well, Erdogan will burst into an angry tirade .. and then what?

        Well, let them swear, it's only better for us.

        It's not our body that's not cold for us .. Small bites won't change their policy ..
        1. figwam
          figwam April 22 2021 10: 00
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          Small bites will not change their policy.

          The genocide charge is not a shallow bite.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar April 22 2021 12: 06
            +2
            Quote: figvam
            Quote: Svarog
            Small bites will not change their policy.

            The genocide charge is not a shallow bite.

            So who's going to do what? The problem exists in the recognition of the genocide by only one country - Turkey. Until this happens, nothing good for the Armenians will happen.
    3. ximkim
      ximkim April 22 2021 09: 41
      +1
      Then the sanctions probably ..
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar April 22 2021 12: 08
        +2
        Quote: ximkim
        Then the sanctions probably ..

        That is unlikely. The United States needs Turkey more than Armenian voters, senators and businessmen. Now, if the latter gains a fairly large financial and political weight in the United States, it is another matter.
    4. max702
      max702 April 22 2021 10: 23
      +6
      Biden's confession is great! Another wedge in the relationship between the West and Turkey ... Keep it up! You look and it will come to the exit from NATO ..
      rs: To express gratitude to our agent and assign an extraordinary title ..
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 22 2021 09: 13
    +2
    US press: Biden intends to recognize the Armenian genocide
    ... The question is, why does the current president need it? In the rights of the previous one ??? Or do they want to tease the "Sultan" more and more?
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 April 22 2021 09: 24
      +5
      This is not a "tease", but more like "scribble".
      Those who were nearly overthrown and nearly shot are not so "teased".
    2. knn54
      knn54 April 22 2021 09: 54
      +3
      Victor, the point is that the Armenian lobby in the United States is not inferior in influence to the Jewish one.
      What we see.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 22 2021 10: 14
        +3
        In what ruling clan of America, what nationality, lobbyists, they rule more! It is logical.
        Trump had a lot of "favorites", it's obvious ... for Biden and Cher drowned! Well, that is also an argument.
        Nicholas soldier
      2. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 April 22 2021 10: 39
        +5
        Recent events in Karabakh have shown that the Jewish lobby is stronger than all the others combined, and there is no Armenian lobby even in Yerevan.
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 22 2021 11: 11
        +1
        Quote: knn54
        What we see.

        The main thing is that the Armenians should not be blinded by such "sunshine". And they have not lost the ability to see. Lest they believe in "Amariga with us"
      4. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar April 22 2021 12: 10
        +1
        Quote: knn54
        Victor, the point is that the Armenian lobby in the United States is not inferior in influence to the Jewish one.
        What we see.

        Not yet. The pro-Israel lobby includes a bunch of evangelicals and other Protestants. As for the Armenian - at the moment they "sponsor" some senators, somewhere (California) they have a significant electorate, but nothing more.
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar April 22 2021 12: 08
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      US press: Biden intends to recognize the Armenian genocide
      ... The question is, why does the current president need it? In the rights of the previous one ??? Or do they want to tease the "Sultan" more and more?

      They want to put it in place.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 22 2021 12: 18
        +1
        Their affairs, themselves, themselves.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar April 22 2021 12: 26
          +1
          Naturally - there is no need to go there at all
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 22 2021 09: 13
    +3
    The Turks will remember this to Biden.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 April 22 2021 09: 30
      +5
      The Turks have a lot to remember.
      And we must remember something to the Turks.
  • Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay April 22 2021 09: 18
    +13
    This is bream for Erdogan))
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 22 2021 09: 26
    +6
    It was high time to admit.
  • Ren
    Ren April 22 2021 09: 29
    +3
    And next to the Can is "the terrible devil Harris"! repeat
    fin. Kamalaa devil harris belay
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 22 2021 09: 30
    +1
    Is this a hint to the Turks and a warning to Baku?
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 April 22 2021 09: 42
      +3
      Successful and, most importantly, on time! laughing
  • venik
    venik April 22 2021 09: 31
    +2
    "....US President Joseph Biden intends to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide... ... "
    ======
    Uh-huh! As a war - so "they kept quiet in a rag" .... And as now - so they immediately declared themselves "peacekeepers"!
    It's too late for Sarah to drink Borjomi when the kidney has fallen off!
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn April 22 2021 09: 31
    -1
    Jubilation and festivities will begin in Armenia on this occasion. Pashinyan will rise and lead the Armenians to a "bright future".
  • Revolver
    Revolver April 22 2021 09: 32
    +1
    Once and for all, and Biden is doing the right thing. Erdogan will piss and jump with boiling water so that his head will break through the ceiling.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 April 22 2021 10: 01
      +5
      Quote: Nagan
      Once and for all, and Biden does the right thing

      Sow instability throughout the world, do you think it is right?
      1. Revolver
        Revolver April 22 2021 10: 14
        +2
        Finally, practically everything that he does (or his puppeteers force him to do), in my opinion, is completely opposite to what and how should be done. But in this case, he (s) is right (s), Erdogan must be put in his place.
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 10: 24
        +1
        Quote: Boris55
        Sow instability throughout the world, do you think it is right?

        And then what has the "instability around the world"? He will do what else Bush promised, and Obama and Trump let go of the brakes.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 April 22 2021 10: 50
          +3
          Quote: Nagan
          But in this case, he (s) is right (s), Erdogan must be put in his place.

          This is not the best way. He arouses the Armenians, which may not have the best effect on our peacekeepers.

          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          He will do what else Bush promised, and Obama and Trump let go of the brakes.

          Do you think Baydon is smarter than his predecessors?

          About White House Politics.
          The Clintonoids, in an impulse to take over the office in the White House, enlisted the support of everyone with whom they could. Now the time has come to pay the bills, but there are not enough resources (Russia is shutting off its tap). Hence, such a "twitchy" policy - the interests of the beneficiaries are different, and an attempt to please everyone looks like an inadequate policy. Now Putin is a killer, then let's talk, then here are the sanctions.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 11: 30
            0
            Quote: Boris55
            This is not the best way. He arouses the Armenians, which may not have the best effect on our peacekeepers.

            If anyone he turns on, it is Erdogan. And their American Armenians and their lawyers who will continue to monetize the genocide. What do the peacekeepers have to do with it?
            Quote: Boris55
            Do you think Baydon is smarter than his predecessors?

            I believe that the grandfather's place is in a nursing home, let him train his fine motor skills by collecting puzzles. But it does not change anything
            Quote: Boris55
            Now it's time to pay the bills, but there are not enough resources (Russia closes its tap)

            This is what other "tap" Russia is blocking the States?
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 April 22 2021 11: 38
              -1
              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y
              If anyone he turns on, it is Erdogan.

              The Armenians are the same.

              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              This is what other "tap" Russia is blocking the States?

              Faucet of the boundless robbery of Russia. With the adoption of amendments to the Constitution, the economy flowing to the West has significantly decreased, and with the choice of a new Duma, it will become even smaller. For this reason, they are so raging, so eager to remove Putin, as one former US senator said: "Putin must be taken out of the Kremlin with honor or feet first," so that Russia would return to the 90s.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 11: 55
                0
                Quote: Boris55
                The Armenians are the same.

                So what? Let the tension be relieved by filing lawsuits wherever you go. What do the peacekeepers have to do with it?
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 22 2021 09: 35
    +3
    If this really happens, then with pleasure I will look at Erdogan's face and his subsequent reaction.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 10: 19
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      If this really happens, then with pleasure I will look at Erdogan's face and his subsequent reaction.

      Yes ... Five years ago, when the Bundestag rejected the claims of the German Turks regarding the recognition of the genocide, Erdi even recalled the ambassador from Berlin. The Germans, however, slightly puffed up, mumbling that the Bundestag resolution was not "legally binding".
  • Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 22 2021 09: 49
    +2
    I feel that soon the Armenians will file lawsuits with many zeros in the appropriate authorities against Turkey.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer April 22 2021 09: 58
      +5
      This is still a long way off. But it will come to this if the Yankees recognize the genocide. Another thing is interesting, but does Biden and his entourage understand that this is a far-reaching step, both for world geopolitics and, in fact, for NATO. Another question: why now? And why is it the Yankees? But the plot unfolds a noble one. Let's take a look.
      By the way, my ancestors are from Kars.
      1. Konstantin Gogolev
        Konstantin Gogolev April 22 2021 10: 07
        +2
        Quote: newbie
        this is a far-reaching step, both for world geopolitics and for NATO itself.

        It will be as always. A precedent that may not apply to everyone. The lawsuit will be fought for a long time in the "High Courts" for leverage against the rebellious Erdogan and his limping economy.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer April 22 2021 10: 37
          +2
          I agree, it will be long, very long. But something like Nuremberg will happen. But, up to this point, a lot of swords and mines will break. The decisive point will be the point at which the Russian Federation and the Yankees, plus the brits, will agree. After all, the latter have long and tightly controlled the Turks.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 10
            +1
            Quote: newbie
            But something like Nuremberg will happen. But, up to this point, a lot of swords and mines will break.

            What other swords? Nuremberg needs a full-fledged war and victory in it.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer April 22 2021 12: 16
              -2
              "Swords" _ phraseology. And war will not be necessary if the Turks are taken in the ticks by key countries.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 20
                0
                Quote: newbie
                "Swords" _ phraseology. And war will not be necessary if the Turks are taken in the ticks by key countries.

                And why then Nuremberg? Well, if they take it, then they will be obliged to pay according to the decision of some arbitration. And what has the tribunal got to do with it?
              2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 31
                +1
                Quote: newbie
                if the Turks are taken as ticks by key countries.

                And by the way, Bush Jr. recognized the Holodomor as an act of genocide - and what, they took us "in ticks" by some countries there? Although the Seluk expected more, with constant repentance and payment of compensation. But somehow to hell with them. Let them be content with the Massachusetts Avenue monument.
                1. newcomer
                  newcomer April 22 2021 12: 35
                  -1
                  What are you talking about, anyway? Little did Bush scribble there. Has the US State Recognized Genocide? I missed something, really? And I did not understand who this "Selyuk" is, and who is this "fuck them"?
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 17
        0
        Quote: newbie
        and, in fact, for NATO.

        NATO reforms are long overdue. The bloat at the expense of Eastern European margins is not in favor of quality. Applicants for joining the bloc allow themselves to vulgarly blackmail Brussels - this is not a gate at all. But the resolution of the situation is not yet visible.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer April 22 2021 12: 20
          +1
          What does this have to do with it? NATO without Turkey is like an army without infantry.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 23
            0
            Quote: newbie
            And here it is?

            Yes, despite the fact that it will spur reforms.
            Quote: newbie
            NATO without Turkey is like an army without infantry.

            Yeah? Why so? Why then did NATO accept this infantry with such a creak that the Turks had to send cannon fodder to Korea? Although they were sitting on the straits then and now.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer April 22 2021 12: 28
              +2
              What reforms?
              This is because, as 2x million army, well equipped. This is not for you the "self-defense forces" of some East European "tigers with lyakhi".
              Accepted with a creak, because NATO membership opened the way to the EU. The reception was blocked mainly by France and Greece.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 39
                -2
                Quote: newbie
                for NATO membership opened the way to the EU.

                Well, somehow in the 50th it was far from the EEC. The first expansion took place only 20 years later.
                Quote: newbie
                This is because 2x million army

                Actually, two-thirds of a million, emnip. But all the same, of course, you cannot compare with the "tigers", no doubt)
                1. newcomer
                  newcomer April 22 2021 12: 40
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                  You did not answer my question. About call. , I mean full mob. reserve. And you would not play with numbers and dates, but admit why the French and Greeks blocked you. And by the way I'm waiting for an answer who is "Selyuk", who is "fuck them"?
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar April 22 2021 20: 23
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                    Quote: newbie
                    You did not answer my question. About call. , I mean full mob. reserve. And you would not play with numbers and dates, but admit why the French and Greeks blocked you. And by the way I'm waiting for an answer who is "Selyuk", who is "fuck them"?

                    Selyuki are Ukrainians for whom Bush recognized the Holodomor.
                    1. newcomer
                      newcomer April 22 2021 20: 28
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                      Well, if so, then okay. Misunderstood. Sorry.
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar April 22 2021 20: 20
        +1
        Quote: newbie
        This is still a long way off. But it will come to this if the Yankees recognize the genocide. Another thing is interesting, but does Biden and his entourage understand that this is a far-reaching step, both for world geopolitics and, in fact, for NATO. Another question: why now? And why is it the Yankees? But the plot unfolds a noble one. Let's take a look.
        By the way, my ancestors are from Kars.

        California is traditionally for the Democrats, Armenians there in big cities are the number one reason.
        He wants to put Erdogan in his place, and as soon as possible - # 2.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer April 22 2021 20: 26
          +1
          That's just the point: the Yankees often act with swoops, "cowboy style", making tactical, momentary steps, not calculating further development from their "swoop". The consequences, and I'm very happy about it, can be enormous. Well, I think so.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar April 22 2021 20: 31
            +1
            There will be consequences if serious sanctions follow, in my opinion.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer April 22 2021 20: 32
              +1
              I totally agree.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 April 22 2021 09: 53
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    Biden will not give us such a gift. It's too good to be true.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 26
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      Quote: Petrik66
      Biden will not give us such a gift. It's too good to be true.

      Are you Armenian?
      1. Petrik66
        Petrik66 April 22 2021 17: 57
        +1
        No, I'm Russian. And a gift for us is to roll to death with the Sultan and deprive him of the old Turkish = Eastern European fun - both ours and yours ..
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 22 2021 10: 13
    +3
    And they don't want to recognize the genocide of Native Americans, Serbs, Iraqis, Syrians, Vietnamese, Koreans, Ukrainians, Ossetians?
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 07
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      Ukrainians, Ossetians do not want to recognize?

      And who committed the genocide of the Ossetians?
      If by "genocide of Ukrainians" you mean the Holodomor, the Americans recognized it even under Bush, Jr.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor April 22 2021 13: 48
        +1
        The Ossetians were genocidal by the Saaki thugs who obeyed the FSA, and the Ukrainians are still being genocidal by the fascinating junta, so much so that no fictitious famine was lying around.
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          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 14: 10
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          Quote: Incvizitor
          Ossetians were genocidal by Saaki thugs

          You, in my opinion, interpret the term "genocide" too freely.
          Quote: Incvizitor
          and the Ukrainians are still being genocidal by the fascington junta

          How's that?
          Quote: Incvizitor
          that no fictional famine

          Why "fictional"? The famine of 1932-1933, in my opinion, is a fact established and not refuted by historians of any kind. Spears break around the causes and number of deaths, but this is a separate debatable topic.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar April 22 2021 20: 27
            +1
            The famine of 1932-33 did not hit Ukraine on purpose. The Volga region, part of Kazakhstan, etc. were starving. The reasons were miscalculation and poor execution, coupled with lousy weather conditions - not the deliberate killing of Ukrainians.
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              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 21: 09
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              Quote: Krasnodar
              The famine of 1932-33 did not hit Ukraine on purpose

              And I didn’t say that. I'm not a hunter of Ukrainian scrapbooks
              Quote: Krasnodar
              The Volga region, part of Kazakhstan, etc. were starving.

              The hunger was common, but he was.
              Quote: Krasnodar
              The reasons were

              In the comment you answered, I wrote that this is a separate topic. The comrade burst out with a tirade that the States should recognize the genocide of the Ukrainians - I replied that they had already recognized it, though not in the tone that this protester needed. What's wrong?
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar April 22 2021 21: 12
                +1
                That's right, I admit it)).
  • Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 April 22 2021 10: 20
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    Not surely Biden is ours laughing
  • pytar
    pytar April 22 2021 10: 24
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    Biden intends to recognize the Armenian genocide


    It was high time! The extermination of 1,5 million people is genocide! One of the worst atrocities of the 20th century! Germany has recognized the genocide committed by the Nazis! And it was good for Germany! Only repentance washes away the burden of crime! Although I strongly doubt that Erdogan and the Turkish political elite are capable of such a thing!
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw April 22 2021 11: 08
      -1
      It was high time! The extermination of 1,5 million people is genocide! One of the worst atrocities of the 20th century!
      The most amazing thing is that even in the 21st century these creatures are not appeased, they are trying with all their might to repeat with the tacit consent of the world powers. I really hope that the ice has broken and there will soon be a detailed analysis of recent events and further aggressive intentions towards the Armenians.
      1. pytar
        pytar April 22 2021 11: 49
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        The most amazing thing is that even in the 21st century these creatures are not appeased, they are trying with all their might to repeat with the tacit consent of the world powers.

        Unfortunately, you are right. Interesting world powers and human morality are in conflict. Thus, these states become indirectly complicit in crimes!
        I really hope that the ice has broken and there will soon be a detailed analysis of recent events and further aggressive intentions towards the Armenians.

        I hope not only the topic of Armenians will be on the agenda. To prevent a new massacre, which will inevitably be in the implementation of the plan to revive the Ottoman Empire of Erdogan, is possible only if the world pays attention to the past!
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 11: 35
      +1
      Quote: pytar
      Germany has recognized the genocide committed by the Nazis! And it was good for Germany!

      In the case of Nazism, Germany recognized their atrocities. So the analogy is out of place. The Turks do not recognize any genocide.
      Quote: pytar
      Only repentance washes away the burden of crime!

      As practice shows - not only and not so much. The main thing here is the material and monetary component.
      1. pytar
        pytar April 22 2021 11: 56
        -2
        In the case of Nazism, Germany admitted its atrocities. So the analogy is out of place. The Turks do not recognize any genocide.

        There is no need for Turks, right? The mythical Ottomans did it all! So why, then, the modern Republic of Turkey, if it is considered unreasonable, does not recognize the fact that the genocide of the Armenians was committed in the Ottoman Empire?
        As practice shows - not only and not so much. The main thing here is the material and monetary component.

        Unfortunately, this is so. Interesting rule the world, the Turks say - fez / hat / sways wherever interest dictates.
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          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 12: 01
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          Quote: pytar
          There is no need for Turks, right?

          Where did I say it had nothing to do with it? I wrote that the Turks do not recognize, because they perfectly understand what will follow.
          1. pytar
            pytar April 22 2021 12: 47
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            I misunderstood you. OK. hi
  • Burdock
    Burdock April 22 2021 10: 34
    +2
    This is not a matter of genocide, but the fact that the United States, unlike some, does not lick the ass of a Turan.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 22 2021 10: 38
    +2
    The old man is strange. Decided to start working for new elections while alive? winked I wonder how big is the Armenian diaspora in the United States? Or does Erdagan want to insert a hairpin?
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 22 2021 10: 46
      +3
      It did not work to kill Erdogan - so at least they put hairpins in the zop. This is all the current USA ...
  • iouris
    iouris April 22 2021 10: 58
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    He will forget. The world is ruled by Psaki.
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw April 22 2021 11: 08
      +1
      He will forget. The world is ruled by Psaki.
      Psaki will confuse something.
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        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 22 2021 11: 41
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        Quote: Threaded Screw
        He will forget. The world is ruled by Psaki.
        Psaki will confuse something.

        ))
        Ethnic Armenians in the Biden apparatus will not give:
        Hayk Hadjinazaryan - Chief of Regional Communications Department of the DB
        Jeff Marutyan - something about the climate.
  • astepanov
    astepanov April 22 2021 11: 30
    +3
    Interestingly, and Mr. Biden does not intend to recognize the genocide of the Vietnamese, Lao, Iraqis by the Americans? And it would be worth it.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 22 2021 11: 31
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    An excellent decision of Muhamoor's analytical headquarters, keep it up. A coup, Gulen, recognition of the genocide! Erdogan should make a choice about fighter-bombers.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 22 2021 11: 42
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    The previous head of the White House, Donald Trump, did not do this in order not to spoil relations with Ankara.
    The Turks will pose. Let's see how things go with the NATO allies. PыThe Turks will definitely not be able to see the ngwyn from any end. laughing will ask to visit us on the 57th.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 22 2021 12: 51
    +2
    "US President Joseph Biden intends to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide."
    Pashinyan happily dances a lambada without pants on the table, Erdogan, thinks from which box to throw tomatoes into Biden, Jews squint jealously, but what do we care? Something the destruction of several million Russian by the fascists no one recognizes as genocide, however, this is a question primarily for the Russophobic government of Russia. Yes, and about the genocide of the Chinese, who staged the Yapas, there is also silence ... And about the genocide of the Vietnamese ... And about the genocide of the Indians ...
  • Antagonist
    Antagonist April 22 2021 15: 04
    +7
    Thus, we finally lose the Transcaucasia. Turkey is in Azerbaijan. There will be Americans in Georgia and Armenia. And we, instead of distant approaches, will restrain the enemy on our own border.
  • agoran
    agoran April 22 2021 23: 06
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    Here, about the Indians, the right question.
    Indian lives are also important.
    Indian lives are also important.
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  • kamikaze
    kamikaze April 22 2021 23: 54
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    it is necessary to recognize the genocide of the native Indians whom the Americans brutally destroyed
  • NF68
    NF68 April 23 2021 15: 52
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    And what will they achieve in the end? Relations with Turkey are not the best anyway.
  • aleks700
    aleks700 April 24 2021 15: 15
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    Clear. By this he wants to tie Armenia to the states. Well, and help Pashinyan to stay in power. After all, now it will be the merit of Pashinyan