From Moscow to the outskirts

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"Moloch" of the metropolis


The capital, as a hub of everything and everyone: human resources, trade, financial flows and investments, has developed its potential. The city is obviously overloaded and tired of those who want to build something else on the capital's land and guests eager to snatch "crumbs" from the wide money table of the metropolis.

Now is the time to quickly change the model of the country's development and, finally, to tackle the vast expanses of the Motherland, which have long required close attention. The essence of the political and economic model of modern Russia is that the million-plus cities in the country have turned into spontaneous drivers, from which only one thing is expected - profit.



But these same megalopolises are at the same time places of attraction for all types of economic, social, and also criminal activity. A kind of abscess that mercilessly sucks out all the vital energy of the surrounding society around itself.

The development of the center and the degradation of the outskirts is the main trend that has remained unchanged for a long time. The policy of our authorities is such that only large cities are developing in the country, and the Russian hinterland continues to degrade. But in a living organism, this approach ultimately leads to a malignant formation (if the disease is not treated) - gangrene.

Today, against the backdrop of the development of the coronavirus epidemic, we see how deeply this trend has penetrated into our daily life. This can be seen on the example of the intensive and extensive development of a monster city, industrial and business supercluster - Moscow.

This is the main political and business center of modern Russia, the richest constituent entity of the federation. The population is sixteen million people, and this is without taking into account the numerous migrants. "Moloch" - Moscow for decades and exclusively to the detriment of other regions draws vital energy only into itself, absorbing human resources, professional personnel, skilled workers and gigantic financial flows.

But it is worth driving a hundred kilometers away from Moscow - all around is devastation and emptiness. No skyscrapers, nightclubs, offices, restaurants and bright night lights. Maybe they are not needed there, but there is no life, economic activity, and finally, work with a more or less adequate salary.

Moreover, Moscow is turning into a semblance of a malignant tumor, which is trying to throw out its poisonous miasms, waste products to hell. Shies' example is the most eloquent. It turns out that the Muscovites - relative prosperity, and the hinterland - slop. According to the authorities, everything is logical and economical. Actually, how did you want?

Pandemic is changing trends


But now the coronavirus epidemic has come to Russia. And everyone saw how quickly the beautiful surroundings of Moscow faded. The city looks like a tired loader who, by inertia, continues to carry on itself a heap of problems, from traffic jams to poor ecology in many areas of the metropolis.

Moreover, the situation will not improve. Experts point out that the economic model is such that businesses will continue to build up every possible piece of urban land with mediocre housing and office buildings. These are such "oil rigs" from which it is very difficult to get off.

An illustrative example is the attempts to build up Losiny Ostrov, a forest that seems to be under federal protection. But big money is very difficult to resist, especially in our homegrown bureaucracy. From "Losiny Ostrov" they are slowly being torn off piece by piece, and only the sovereign's will can stop this misfortune.

And the city center is suffering from an irrepressible business onslaught. Enterprising businessmen throw their tentacles into those corners that should definitely be preserved and not touched. You don't have to go far for examples - here is at least the area around the Cathedral of Christ the Savior.

It would seem like a matchmaker for the saints. But here, too, the money "roller" is pushing through projects that are undesirable for everyone. An elite hotel is being built right next to the monument to Alexander II, the parameters of which are increasing literally every day. I just want to ask - is there, in general, we have a state or is it crawling on its knees in front of the oligarchs?


To the village, to the wilderness, to Saratov ...


Another burning problem is hidden behind the tinsel facades - it's not even the threat of mass unemployment in megacities, but how to provide food for a huge number of townspeople. Communications are overwhelmed and product quality is steadily declining. Any failure in the system can lead to a real collapse.

And it's not about the coronavirus itself, but about the presence of many other external threats. Thus, the possibility of disconnecting Russia from the international payment system SWIFT has been repeatedly discussed. This can immediately lead to a halt of the entire economy, not only of Moscow, but of the entire country, no matter how we are convinced of the opposite.

But large cities in this case will suffer most severely. And then it will become clear that it is important not to have advanced bank cards in your wallet, but figuratively speaking, potatoes in the underground and a well with clean water.

But any crisis is not only a tangle of problems, but also a real window of opportunity that needs only to be opened. Today, it has become obvious to many that it is necessary to move away from urban overcrowding. It is urgent to open a new front for activity in the vast expanses of our Motherland.

So isn't it time to plow the Russian outback with a big sovereign's plow, and to throw such long-awaited investments into our land? The province is clearly stagnant, it quietly murmurs from the fact that it has been forgotten since the beginning of the 90s of the last century.

The concept of million-plus cities as the only drivers of economic and political growth in Russia suffered a complete fiasco with the advent of the coronavirus. As well as the concept of optimizing everything and everyone, which arose at one time in the inflamed imagination of domestic would-be managers.

Now we are only at the beginning of a very difficult, difficult path out of the impasse where these economic strategists have led us. Many will say - yes, we are happy to get out of crowded cities, but where to go, what to do? And we are accustomed to at the very least social certainty and financial parameters in cities.

Coming to summer cottages on weekends is one thing, and quite another is to change your lifestyle and truly delve into the new and unknown. In other words, only a well-thought-out state policy can set new trends in the development of our huge country.

Therefore, it seems that it is necessary to start discussing and developing a fundamentally new economic concept in a firefighting order. We must clearly understand that with the same baggage and with an outdated economic model, we cannot go far. To continue developing megacities with a population of over one million is to prepare a catastrophe for the country and its population.

The time has come to develop all of Russia, its precious endless expanses, and not just Moscow and St. Petersburg. But do our reformers understand that it is impossible to waste time, which we have less and less? Will they give a detailed answer to our burning question?
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  1. +40
    April 23 2021 18: 11
    The time has come to develop all of Russia, its precious endless expanses, and not just Moscow and St. Petersburg.

    Just arrived? And I thought it was high time .. But who will develop it? Those who build castles and buy yachts that have no analogues do not want to develop anything, except for their state.
    1. +17
      April 23 2021 18: 20
      Now there are two poles (states), Moscow and Zamkadye, where different salaries, pensions, social services. payments and different laws according to which all this is formed, although it is formed precisely at the expense of Zamkadye!
      I think that, first of all, the subsistence minimum should be raised in the regions to 25-30 thousand rubles, and in the capital it should be lowered to 9100 rubles, as in our country now and then people and capital will go to Zamkadye.
      1. +27
        April 23 2021 18: 34
        What to write, offer, advise ??? Those who now rule us ... are useless.
        It is necessary to change the system fundamentally, and for this LABOR PEOPLE UNITE, and start fighting for a decent life!
        1. +14
          April 23 2021 18: 43
          Quote: rocket757
          It is necessary to change the system fundamentally, and for this LABOR PEOPLE UNITE, and start fighting for a decent life!

          I subscribe to every word !!!
        2. +14
          April 23 2021 18: 50
          Quote: rocket757
          WORKING PEOPLE UNITE, and start fighting for a decent life!

          Without this we will be lost! I support!
        3. +4
          April 24 2021 01: 30
          I would like to hear from you, do you think that for such a union a leader is needed in simple words, and if so, who do you think is this figure?
          1. +12
            April 24 2021 03: 11
            that for such a union a leader is needed in simple words

            This recipe was written on every penny. Even on the coat of arms of the USSR. Proletarians unite. wink What's the point? Forgotten quickly .... After all, they were united then not from a well-fed life, but from hunger. And without the Ulyanov-Lenins, strikes were organized. So a super-duper leader is not needed. First, these local leaders must emerge among the workers themselves. Below.
            Well. and forgot the recipe. laughing
            "No one will give us deliverance:
            Neither god nor king nor hero
            We will achieve liberation
            With my own hand. "
            Interestingly, Mr. Putin remembers the text? After all, he taught at school ... Communist wassat
            1. +4
              April 24 2021 07: 22
              I asked this question for a reason, I would like to hear the opinion of as many people as possible in order to understand at least an approximate balance of power in this direction.
              As for unification from below, my personal opinion is in today's realities a utopia, I draw my conclusions, watching what discord and vacillation occur in the camp of the new socialists, after Platoshkin was put under house arrest, thereby excluding him from the agenda. The potential of the masses is either wasted, following the precepts of the fabulist Krylov, stretching any good intention in different directions, or banal cooling of the protest mood against the background of the absence of a charismatic leader.
              Here we return to Vladimir Ilyich, remembering that strikes and strikes certainly took place, but the real struggle against the final change in the political structure of the state was realized largely thanks to the very figure of Lenin.
              1. -1
                April 26 2021 11: 30
                All were united by Marxism.
            2. 0
              April 24 2021 10: 28
              Quote: dauria
              This recipe was written on every penny. Even on the coat of arms of the USSR. Proletarians unite. And to the point

              To assert that everything was useless ... no, no. It was a great experiment !!! Its results have not yet been fully evaluated, I hope this will be done on time and correctly!
            3. -5
              April 24 2021 10: 55
              Quote: dauria
              Well. and forgot the recipe.
              "No one will give us deliverance:
              Neither god nor king nor hero
              We will achieve liberation
              With my own hand. "

              The revolution? And then the civil war? And then the final collapse of Russia?
              And then, where did you see that the level of wages and prices in the capital was lower than in the provinces? Measures to level the standard of living are being taken and are starting to work. Go to Kaluga, take a look. Or again, "Yes, I do not agree with both of them ... take everything and share"? "Boring girls ..."
              1. -1
                April 26 2021 11: 46
                That is, you are satisfied with a slow, inconclusive collapse, so what?
                1. 0
                  April 27 2021 00: 49
                  Quote: ElTuristo
                  That is, you are satisfied with a slow, inconclusive collapse, so what?

                  No, no, it's better to quickly subtract and divide!
                  1. -1
                    April 27 2021 12: 39
                    It was in the 1990s that everything was taken away and divided by Deripaska, Potanins, Avena Chubais and Abramovich ... is that different, right?
          2. +1
            April 24 2021 10: 24
            It would be good as in the story about Danko, about the Savior .... SPAS also came!
            In life, of course, in a different way .... it is better to read textbooks, there the style is more consistent than the one that we allow ourselves.
            1. +1
              April 24 2021 12: 43
              It would be good as in the story about Danko, about the Savior .... SPAS also came!

              Imagine yourself as a god. You can do anything. Destroy cancer. Throw maniacs and thieves into another galaxy. And it turns out that nothing can be done. The result will be a planet-reserve for the preservation of "endangered species". Not biological, of course, but the social structures of states. And you will have to monitor and care for this reserve.
              In my opinion, the trouble with socialism in the USSR is precisely this. The struggle between the people and the authorities has disappeared. And it is needed as a feedback loop in any automation. The bourgeoisie should not win, but the people should not win either. The cliff is both left and right. And you have to go along the road. And without a helmsman, on automatic.
              1. +1
                April 25 2021 17: 35
                Quote: dauria
                the trouble of socialism in the USSR is precisely this. The struggle of the people with the authorities disappeared

                If you are talking about the late USSR, then I agree. In earlier periods, social elevators, as they are called, still worked.
                Quote: rocket757
                It was a great experiment !!!

                No matter how much I think about it, the idea is that people were not ready for the role of a person-creator, in the general mass, of course. Human vices turned out to be stronger, the cult of the human consumer is still winning on all fronts.
        4. -5
          April 24 2021 15: 43
          You can change anything - the country will not have one hell of money for all the Wishlist.
          1. 0
            April 24 2021 15: 56
            Quote: Vadim237
            You can change anything - the country will not have one hell of money for all the Wishlist.

            If they stop stealing and stop the oligarchic-bureaucratic limit on the export of capital, then there will be enough for everything and for everyone and there will still be.
            1. -3
              April 24 2021 20: 52
              Alas, not even if nothing is taken out and all officials stop stealing.
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      2. 0
        April 23 2021 18: 38
        Quote: Stroporez
        there are two poles (states), Moscow and Zamkadye,

        The border of the Zamkadye is drawn along the Urals. The harsh Urals, Siberians and the Far East, even in their thoughts, will not even for a second try on the nickname “zamkadysh” and associate Zamkadye only with the outback of European Russia, devoid of both metropolitan pomp and trans-Ural pathos, and inhabited by only hereditary slaves. And in Siberia, people have always lived free.
        1. +16
          April 23 2021 18: 56
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          The border of the Zamkadye is drawn along the Urals. The harsh Urals, Siberians and the Far East, even in their thoughts, will not even for a second try on the nickname “zamkadysh” and associate Zamkadye only with the outback of European Russia, devoid of both metropolitan pomp and trans-Ural pathos, and inhabited by only hereditary slaves. And in Siberia, people have always lived free.

          What was that? belay Look, at first people like you have eaten the borders between kakla and no, now you are already figuring the border with the Russians "free" and not quite ... But nothing that my city has its origins, even according to the chronicles, 1146 ! Now name at least one comparable date in Siberia! By the way, my ancestors were Cossacks, then they became "Kazyuks" and my free family is 300 years old !!!
          PySy.
          1. +2
            April 23 2021 20: 32
            in any way from Tula? laughing
            1. 0
              April 24 2021 15: 58
              We are Zarechenskie))
              1. +2
                April 24 2021 17: 42
                laughing drinks I thought so. Greetings from the Serebrovskys hi I have never heard more about kazyuk in other places good
                1. +1
                  April 25 2021 11: 18
                  Quote: Korax71
                  I have never heard more about kazyuk in other places

                  And about the ladies! good laughing drinks
          2. +1
            April 24 2021 08: 36
            How can you explain the attitude towards Muscovites, for example, in Krasnoyarsk, well, to put it mildly, not your own.
            Here are the borders, no one knows what it is?
            1. -1
              April 25 2021 11: 32
              Quote: saigon
              How can you explain the attitude towards Muscovites, for example, in Krasnoyarsk, well, to put it mildly, not your own.


              And so also explain how the attitude of the inhabitants of the colony to the citizens of the metropolis. Only the difference is what? The fact that the Papuans ended up in a colony - BY THE LAW OF THE EMPIRE. Therefore, I have no complaints about the Papuans. It is not their fault that foreign aircraft carriers have sailed to them.
              But in our blessed fatherland, the law is the same for everyone, but only the customs of the “aborigines” are such that they simply, according to their “folk tradition,” consider not the best, but the most terrible, “authorities”. They respect only power and lawlessness and therefore get what they deserve. This is the only way to explain it. Everything is fair. The bosses are also not fools, they know how to deal with you so that there is order.
        2. +6
          April 23 2021 20: 50
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          And in Siberia, people have always lived free.

          seriously what?
          in the course who raised and built everything in the Urals?
        3. +3
          April 24 2021 05: 59
          Especially convicts! The color of the nation! laughing
      3. +12
        April 23 2021 18: 44
        It is strange that the witnesses of the sect have not yet pulled up, that "everything is fine in their village (town)! ..."
        True, they begin to answer vaguely to a specific question about such happiness, like the Krasnodar Territory ...
        And, in general, I do not know why we have it like that. I've been in Germany, Poland and looked - there are no gardens, vegetable gardens, beds, greenhouses near the houses ...
        Why?
        And because you go to the store, and there are any products - both local and foreign. And the price is such that he can buy for ten days with a one-day salary!
        And these prices are the same, whether in a big city or in a village ...
        1. +7
          April 23 2021 19: 18
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          It is strange that the witnesses of the sect have not yet pulled up, that "everything is fine in their village (town)! ..."
          True, they begin to answer vaguely to a specific question about such happiness, like the Krasnodar Territory ...

          They will catch up again, there are many "new" southerners, true "Cossacks" with "characteristic" surnames, singing "for the Tsar's faith and patronymic".
          PySy.I repeat, Lenin was very perspicacious saying that: "..... it is known that Russified foreigners always overdo it in terms of the truly Russian mood"
        2. +31
          April 23 2021 19: 25
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          I've been in Germany, Poland and looked - there are no gardens, vegetable gardens, beds, greenhouses near the houses ...

          So it will be like this with us soon: he grew potatoes, took them to the market and ... a fine of 20 thousand rubles (according to Putin's decree). There is nothing to sell your own, everyone needs only imported or unknown origin
        3. -1
          April 23 2021 19: 34
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And the price is such that he can buy for ten days with a one-day salary!

          Anyone living in these countries is direct? Is your nose not growing?
          1. +10
            April 23 2021 20: 43
            Not. Doesn't grow. I have it, just potatoes. Count yourself - in Germany, when I was there, the average salary of a German was about 19 euros per hour. Go to the site of the same Lidl (chain of stores) and look at the prices.
            Poland. There, in general, paradise by our standards:
            The wife walked in shock on the "thigh" (also a chain of stores):
            On average, a Pole earns 22 zlotys per hour. Meat - a kilogram - about 25 zlotys, cheese - 20 per kg, potatoes - 2.5, bread - 2, milk 2-3 per liter.
            Count yourself. How many of the listed products can you buy for PLN 178?
        4. -1
          April 23 2021 20: 55
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Why?
          I've been in Germany, Poland and looked - there are no gardens, vegetable gardens, beds, greenhouses near the houses ... But because you go into the store, and there are any products

          alas, because a lot of things are FORBIDDEN, and not because you wrote
          1. -2
            April 23 2021 22: 04
            Unfortunately no. In the same Poland sometimes observed individual farms. Rarely. Highly.
            And markets are rare, but there are.
            1. +5
              April 24 2021 04: 08
              Yes, but in order to run these individual farms, you need to be a farmer who is allowed such activities, and the land is farmland. And no self-activity. Otherwise, such a fine that you can switch to bread and water. Therefore, they do not grow their own, but go to the store for farm products.
        5. ANB
          -3
          April 23 2021 21: 16
          ... It is strange that the witnesses of the sect have not yet pulled themselves up, that "everything is fine in their village (town)! ..."
          True, they begin to answer vaguely to a specific question about such happiness, such as the Krasnodar Territory

          Moscow region, the city of Odintsovo.
          Do you need a street?
          :)
          1. +12
            April 23 2021 22: 01
            Come on ... Odintsovo is practically Moscow. So did Chekhov. Or do you seriously perceive the Moscow Ring Road as a "fence"?
            Let's look further? My mother lives in the Yaroslavl region. Although the nearest city from the neighboring Vladimir region. Have you ever been to Alexandrov?
            1. ANB
              -3
              April 24 2021 15: 16
              ... Let's look further?

              Let's. Will Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky suit? :)
        6. 0
          April 24 2021 04: 05
          In Germany, for such amateur activities, that is, growing vegetables near a house in a garden, you can get a substantial fine, which will amount to several thousand euros. So flower beds, please, but for potatoes and tomatoes, go to the store! Only about this the leader modestly kept silent ...
      4. -7
        April 23 2021 18: 49
        Quote: Stroporez
        Now there are two poles (states), Moscow and Zamkadye, where different salaries, pensions, social services. payments and different laws according to which all this is formed, although it is formed precisely at the expense of Zamkadye!
        I think that, first of all, the subsistence minimum should be raised in the regions to 25-30 thousand rubles, and in the capital it should be lowered to 9100 rubles, as in our country now and then people and capital will go to Zamkadye.

        Russians live in Moscow (well, in St. Petersburg), and Zamkadysh live in Zamkadye. Which is unknown, whether people in general, or some kind of lower race.
        1. +8
          April 23 2021 19: 29
          Quote: Narak-zempo
          Russians live in Moscow (well, in St. Petersburg), and Zamkadysh live in Zamkadye. Which is unknown, whether people in general, or some kind of lower race.

          The banter counts, but the problem is deeper. The same zamkadyshi live in the maskavada incl. former residents of turkvo, only in more pre-privileged conditions, infrastructure, salary, work, pensions, social. payout packages.
          And no one, having got out of the conditional muhosr // anska, will not want to return to the shabby entrance, the collapsing five-story building, impassable roads, total poverty and drunkenness with stabbing.
      5. +25
        April 23 2021 19: 04
        While Moscow under Soviet rule was indeed the largest industrial, scientific, educational and defense center, preferences were somehow justified to it. Now, alas, it is just a giant cancerous tumor on the body of Russia. Consuming much more than giving. I see no other way out except for the urgent transfer of the capital, whatever the cost. It would be nice, of course, somewhere in the North, so that there are fewer people who want to trudge after the sovereign's boob. But let's be realistic - IMHO, Novosibirsk is an excellent alternative .. Unless, of course, immediately declare it a closed city and let only those who are really needed to run the state .. Otherwise, it will immediately swell to a Moscow disgrace ..
        1. +6
          April 23 2021 19: 42
          Quote: paul3390
          Unless, of course, immediately declare it a closed city and let only those who are really needed to run the state.

          Why such difficulties? Just a capital property tax. That way in 5-7-10%. So that some kind of gasprim, or a sperbank, who wanted to build a hundred-storey building, and certainly opposite the window of the profile minister, only worked to pay this tax. The problem will be quickly resolved. By herself. Yes
          PS
          And those who like to build a modest summer cottage, a couple of thousand squares that way, within walking distance from the capital, will also find it easy.
          1. +16
            April 23 2021 19: 48
            I would generally make a 100% tax on office corporate buildings. Look - they don't have a prestigious position to place a zhopp in an ordinary building, be sure to give a skyscraper .. And to the feds - he has forbidden to build new buildings at all. For not figs on state money to live luxuriously. And then Avon - one pension fund is worth something. Old people count pennies, but these hoopoes have built palaces for themselves in Russia. Stalin is not on them at all, Herods ...
            1. -3
              April 24 2021 15: 49
              Yes, even if the PFR did not build anything and these 120 billion rubles were given to all 46 million pensioners one-time, then 2608 rubles were needed for each - not a penny, but the amount is very modest.
    2. -2
      April 23 2021 18: 32
      Would you like to try it? Or just criticize and throw a lot? The country starts with you. It works at all times. As long as everyone criticizes and does nothing for the country, we will not move anywhere. hi
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    3. +5
      April 24 2021 06: 08
      This is not the only point. Our main problem is over-centralization, Everything is closed to Moscow - that's all the money is in Moscow, The regions are the same, only in miniature. Money in the local capital, the hinterland is bent over. In short, the state structure must be brought to real federalization.
      But is it possible that the collapse of the country will work out, and even a bunch of bushes to boot ... sad
      1. -2
        April 24 2021 11: 10
        Quote: Sahalinets
        Our main problem is over-centralization, Everything is closed to Moscow - that's all the money is in Moscow

        Moscow has become the capital for a reason. We tried Petersburg, but it didn't work out. Have you looked at the map? On the map of roads, highways, railways, rivers?
        1. 0
          April 24 2021 11: 36
          Well, the roads were built from Moscow, because the capital! But its fall in 1812 did not cause any collapse. But in 1941 it would have become a disaster precisely because, for POLITICAL reasons, the entire transport network was tied to it.
          And according to the map, Ekb would be the ideal capital or somewhere nearby.
          1. 0
            April 24 2021 11: 42
            And the rivers were built? But until the 19th century, these were the main freight roads.
    4. -10
      April 24 2021 08: 53
      Quote: Svarog
      Just arrived?

      What's the point in wallpapering a crumbling house?

      The tasks that Putin was solving:
      1. Collect Russia into a single state;
      2. Fill the budget with money;
      3. Food security;
      4. Military security;
      5. Amendments to the Constitution - increasing sovereignty;
      - and now, you can deal with internal problems.

      The sequence of the items is required.

      ps
      To the dissatisfied.
      Just don’t pull your "lace panties" over my head.
      1. +1
        April 25 2021 11: 29
        And what did he accomplish from this?
        1. Let's say Chechnya is part of the Russian Federation. Theoretically .... And yet the Moscow region and the Krasnoyarsk Territory too. For some reason, only the establishment there is somewhat dissimilar ...
        2. The budget is full. They even put it in a jar. And the chaos and poverty "on the ground" as they were, and remained.
        3. Oga. It is not destiny to grow chickens only without imported "components". Let’s keep quiet about Egyptian potatoes in stores. And it would be very funny to look at how many potatoes were produced, relatively speaking, in little detail. And how much now. All the little things were knocked out. And now they say that 35mm potatoes are nothing ...
        4. They are constantly talking about this here. Anything. and there are no fewer questions.
        5. Well, for the Basic Law, you can argue for a long time .... And as the sovereignty has grown - just a song .... As there was imported crap for all oil and gas workers, it’s worth it. And turn off the tap, if sho - vaaasche no problem. is it still expensive? Yes. But if you really want to ... But how others ....... hydrocarbon people will rejoice ...
        Py.Sy. Use the details of the linen yourself. For I am generally skeptical about liberals, and even about their domestic variety - and at all. But to common sense, as well as to the laws of nature, all these wishes for power are lilac. Well, or purple .... Within the framework of pluralism wink
  2. +8
    April 23 2021 18: 20
    Does the author have a good example? Or is it just another fantastic cosmogony?
    1. +15
      April 23 2021 18: 53
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      Does the author have a good example? Or is it just another fantastic cosmogony?

      Well, I have an illustrative example. He worked at a construction site in Moscow. We were paid 15, Uzbeks - 11, and Muscovites - 20 thousand.
    2. -7
      April 23 2021 18: 56
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      Does the author have a good example? Or is it just another fantastic cosmogony?

      The article, nevertheless, seems to be correct, but with a certain inflection.

      The problem, of course, exists. Not creepy and scary, but there is. And it has always been this way: capitals and developed centers are one thing, and the hinterland is another.

      But it is undoubtedly necessary to solve the problem. Both without black and without rose-colored glasses!
      1. +12
        April 24 2021 06: 15
        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
        Not creepy and scary, but there is

        My mother lives in the village of Mezhdurechensk. Come and rate it, creepy or not. There is no gas, no drinking water, no work. But before there was LPK, ZhBK, people did not flee from the village.
        Now all the water columns were closed, in violation of all relevant laws - there is nowhere to draw water. Gas has been promised since the beginning of the 2000s, now they honestly say - forget it.
        United Russia members, you can't knock off what to take from them. Here is the result of the work of this government.
        1. -5
          April 24 2021 15: 08
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          United Russia members, you can't knock off what to take from them. Here is the result of the work of this government.

          Dear Ingvar72! I have never written anywhere and never said that in Russia everything and everywhere good and no flaws and mistakes. Moreover, I always write and say that there are still many shortcomings in Russia! As in any other (even boasting of their "development") country. But, speaking about the whole country, I always try to see everything (both negative and positive) and think comprehensively, NOT to see everything either in black or in pink light, NOT to be a blinkered gloomy skeptic-melancholic, or an infantile enthusiastic idealist. And do not draw conclusions about all country for one (several) negative examples.

          It is clear that when the shortcomings are not abstract, but concern you or your loved ones, then it is strongly felt and hits the psyche. We must fight and strive! If you are right, then the people will reach for you. And the local United Russia villains will be able to "knock down" and become the power!

          By the way, Putin spoke about gas in his recent message. I think the issue should be resolved soon.
          1. +4
            April 24 2021 16: 02
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            I think the issue should be resolved soon.

            Less than a quarter of a century! wassat
    3. +4
      April 23 2021 18: 56
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      Or is it just another fantastic cosmogony?

      rather - a set of rhetorical questions like "How long ??".
  3. +11
    April 23 2021 18: 21
    But it is worth driving a hundred kilometers away from Moscow - all around is devastation and emptiness.

    Yeah ... go further ... a thousand, two thousand kilometers from Moscow, "nature abhors a vacuum"



    1. +14
      April 23 2021 18: 40
      In the photo Yekaterinburg, it is actually getting prettier in front of our eyes !!
    2. -3
      April 23 2021 19: 47
      Quote: svp67
      But it is worth driving a hundred kilometers away from Moscow - all around is devastation and emptiness.

      Yeah ... go further ... a thousand, two thousand kilometers from Moscow, "nature abhors a vacuum"




      The high-rise buildings in the last photo are superfluous, in general, the development of the environment is very slow, more precisely after 2014, when the regions had no money.
      1. +2
        April 24 2021 04: 22
        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
        in general, the development of the environment is very slow

        But this is EXACTLY not about Yekaterinburg, the pace of construction is impressive. And the "extra high-rise buildings" are part of the already HUGE district Akademichesky, which was built, is being built and will be rebuilt, so during this time it has turned into a SEPARATE REGION OF THE CITY, with a population of about 100 people.
        And he is not the only one here
        1. +5
          April 24 2021 06: 18
          Quote: svp67
          But this is EXACTLY not about Yekaterinburg, the pace of construction is impressive

          And if you drive away from the city for 100 km? wink Sergey, the problem is deeper. There is no regional development.
          1. +1
            April 24 2021 11: 15
            Quote: Ingvar 72

            And if you drive away from the city for 100 km?

            Drive to Kaluga.
            1. +6
              April 24 2021 11: 35
              Is it better there?
              I mean that all the so-called development in our country is localized in regional centers, and this is at best. Do not agree?
        2. +1
          April 24 2021 11: 45
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
          in general, the development of the environment is very slow

          But this is EXACTLY not about Yekaterinburg, the pace of construction is impressive. And the "extra high-rise buildings" are part of the already HUGE district Akademichesky, which was built, is being built and will be rebuilt, so during this time it has turned into a SEPARATE REGION OF THE CITY, with a population of about 100 people.
          And he is not the only one here

          How many years have you lived in the ECB? If you have lived there for a long time, you should have seen how it fluttered from the beginning of 2005 to 2014 at an accelerated pace, and how it is now. Even if you compare the same skyscrapers, how many new ones have appeared since 2015? As I know - 1. And how much more has been postponed. The stagnation also affected the ECB. High-rise buildings made of panels are not pride, they are a new scourge of the 21st century for Russia, in the future for our children it will become a problem more tough than now for us dilapidated housing and Khrushchev buildings.
          1. 0
            April 24 2021 16: 36
            Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
            Even if you compare the same skyscrapers, how many new ones have appeared since 2015? As I know - 1.

            Have you ever wondered what skyscrapers are for? There are TWO of them in the city now and they are enough for the eyes.
            Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
            High-rise buildings from panels -

            You are behind the times, houses are no longer being built from "panels"
            Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
            The stagnation also affected the ECB.

            Do not fence in heresy. Since 2014, the streets have changed dramatically:
            - Moscow
            - Blucher
            - Azina
            - Shunting
            - Radishcheva
            - Cosmonauts
            - Shcherbakova
            - Sukhodolskaya
            - Sakharova
            - Vonsovsky
            - Shamanova
            - Panarina
            - Radiant
            - Champions
            - Happy
            - Road ...
            Now a campus is being built for the Universiade ...
            If this is stagnation, then what is development?
            1. -1
              April 24 2021 20: 35
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
              Even if you compare the same skyscrapers, how many new ones have appeared since 2015? As I know - 1.

              Have you ever wondered what skyscrapers are for? There are TWO of them in the city now and they are enough for the eyes.
              Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
              High-rise buildings from panels -

              You are behind the times, houses are no longer being built from "panels"
              Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
              The stagnation also affected the ECB.

              Do not fence in heresy. Since 2014, the streets have changed dramatically:
              - Moscow
              - Blucher
              - Azina
              - Shunting
              - Radishcheva
              - Cosmonauts
              - Shcherbakova
              - Sukhodolskaya
              - Sakharova
              - Vonsovsky
              - Shamanova
              - Panarina
              - Radiant
              - Champions
              - Happy
              - Road ...
              Now a campus is being built for the Universiade ...
              If this is stagnation, then what is development?

              Not building? This is a joke? Moscow is teeming with them, they are building in batches, and St. Petersburg ... the famous "Murino" is an example of this, these are future ghettos. And the rest of the regions are even more so. Development - an increase in the city's income, an increase in small business, an increase in expenses per capita. How is ECB doing with that?
    3. +1
      April 24 2021 09: 02
      Greetings, Sergey! As written in the article
      .... Now is the time to change the economic model of the country's development .....

      And apparently, the author does not know that back in 2011 Nabiulina said that it was necessary to develop cities with a population of over one million. There are 12 of them. Nothing has changed since then.
  4. +1
    April 23 2021 18: 28
    Now is the time to quickly change the model of the country's development and, finally, to tackle the vast expanses of the Motherland
    oh, oh, who do you want to convince of this ??? You will be betrayed anathema, or else crucified ...
    Take an example from China or someone else's experience in organizing territories of advanced, but simply development !!! So there responsible, competent leaders are needed ... THINKING IS NECESSARY there !!!
    Somehow we have no ice with this request
    1. +2
      April 24 2021 08: 44
      Good morning Victor, bully Yesterday, looking through the news ---- the advertisement went off --- the meeting is underway, the deputy from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation says
      .... you need to find out, ask which deputies have assistants who have foreign citizenship. We must ban it ...
      Somehow I went nuts, advertising ended and the YouTube plot continued. .... And what was that? It was not possible to repeat this advertisement. What kind of responsibility can we talk about?
  5. -1
    April 23 2021 18: 58
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    The border of the Zamkadye is drawn along the Urals. The harsh Urals, Siberians and the Far East, even in their thoughts, will not even for a second try on the nickname “zamkadysh” and associate Zamkadye only with the outback of European Russia, devoid of both metropolitan pomp and trans-Ural pathos, and inhabited by only hereditary slaves. And in Siberia, people have always lived free.

    What was that? belay Look, at first people like you drew the line between kakli and "no
    ", now you are already figuring the border with the Russians" free "and not quite ... But nothing that my city has its origins, even according to the chronicles, in 1146! And now name at least one in Siberia comparable in dates! , my ancestors were Cossacks, then they became "Kazyuks" and my free family is 300 years old !!! And many of our people now live in Siberia, starting from the Demidovs.
    PySy.I actually did not talk about this, but talked about the fact that there is a "country" in the COUNTRY, where your Ural people are to the fig and dragged from the territories into their pockets.
    So see?
  6. +5
    April 23 2021 19: 06
    Nice!
    The policy of our authorities is such that only large cities are developing in the country, and the Russian hinterland continues to degrade

    Okay, what's the alternative to this? How to lure good doctors, teachers, business representatives in 100500 small settlements with a penny turnover of funds, an aging population, an absolutely deadly level of comfort tied to a completely deadly (sometimes) quality (and attitude) to electricity, water and gas supply, logistics and other things - only partially dependent from the authorities in the sense that the main dependence of these things will always be on the payback period of modernization. Which will often end shortly before the thermal death of the universe.
    Without in any way justifying the activity-inaction of the current authorities, I imagine myself in the place of those on whose shoulders there is a burden of creating "conditions" in the outback - not really making money, not really spending, not really getting medical treatment, or buying things, quite archaic level of entertainment, a limited circle of acquaintances, and even more so some kind of professional contacts. Eternal problems with modernization of funds. It is highly likely that there will be neighbors around you, from whom you can expect anything, and who will not understand your level of wealth, even if you plow like an ox. And if, with all this, there will not be a level of prosperity - why all this? What's the point of this new masochistic thing like that?
    In a large city, your children will be relatively close to you, they will have a choice in all - the further we drill into the hinterland, the more the distance increases and the choice decreases. Ecology, still life, closeness to the roots, a great leisurely lifestyle - all this is certainly cool, but this food is "not for everyone."
    1. +4
      April 23 2021 19: 18
      Ie, sign the opinion of something and let everything be the same as before? The province bend over, the city of fat. And who will produce food for the city? Will you become Morlocks in speed in your millionaires?
      1. -1
        April 23 2021 19: 59
        It's bad in the old way. And what was announced in the article, contrary to the laws of economics, will be - that is, even worse, in general. In our country, you need to invest a HARDWARE LOT of bobbles, and then almost the same amount, you need to be the flagships of all areas of science for decades - then maybe we could have been given to revive our province. To do this, we would need to accomplish a number of interrelated, practically unthinkable things each in itself - on the one hand, quickly, on the other hand, prohibitively efficient and within a reasonable time frame, without assault and avarice. Small towns-settlements scattered over a large territory are a nightmare from an economic point of view, there is only one way out - to invest as much as possible in transport of all kinds. Drive 100500 km. high-speed railways and highways, to keep all this in perfect condition, taking into account all the delights of our climate. So that a person can safely every day get a couple of hundred kilometers from point A to point B - to work, to study, to shop, etc. All this is tightly tied, in turn, to such a phenomenon as payback - these are very expensive projects in terms of construction, operation, a relatively small number of relatively poor people with a low level of consumption and low economic activity. it will not be invested. Consequently, all this should go almost in parallel with the large-scale construction of some kind of cluster-forming facilities that generate jobs and a good level of salary. In turn, this movement should also pay off - and this means we need fierce sales markets for potential products, an excellent level of education for the workforce and a high level of innovation in such production - including to load an excellent level of education not engaged in manufacturing or construction or sales. All this in a complex - the eye of a needle, into which we need to drag the camel in a very, very short time and under conditions of incredible success in foreign policy - I mean cheap loans, access to technology, etc. Without this, it is also possible, but this is what is called arc bypass - more funds, more time, more effort. Theoretically, if we disperse large, highly efficient production facilities, research institutes and entertainment and tourist infrastructure so that the coverage of such clusters with logistics within 3-4 hours of driving in any convenient way from the hinterland to them becomes a reality, we will solve the problem.
        But you need to understand that 3-4 hours is the upper limit, in practice, if a person takes 4+ hours a day for logistics, this depresses him very steeply, and he sags as an employee in his free time. So in practice, up to 2 hours one way - this is the real figure "over the ceiling".
        But all of the above is only an insignificant part of the problem of the hinterland, because in addition to the notorious money and work, there is also the notorious climate - and if a person has money and brains, very few would prefer to live in Magadan and not in Sochi, relatively speaking. Here it is already much more difficult to do something, the fish is looking for somewhere deeper and a person where better. It is worth thinking about this whole problem as a complex of tasks, and you realize that this is probably not potentially solvable.
        1. +4
          April 24 2021 06: 30
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          In our country, you need to invest a HARDWARE BOTTLE of bobble

          We have money, but they are investing it in the economies of other countries.
          Secondly, not everything depends on the loot, the ideology of the country's development is needed, but it does not exist. That is why the allocated money is stolen, and there is no responsibility for this.
          Further, we need a radical tax reform, the introduction of a progressive scale, a reduction in VAT, and the transfer of VAT to the category of local taxes. Now from the regions they are simply pumping out the rest of the money.
          And the climate has practically nothing to do with it, the Urals, Siberia and the Far East developed in the worst conditions, and were profitable.
          1. -1
            April 24 2021 15: 58
            ... That is why the allocated money is stolen - they are not enough stolen so every year 1.5 trillion rubles are allocated from the federal budget for the development of the regions and at the end of the year almost a trillion rubles are returned to the budget from this amount as unspent, since in order to spend it you need to work to create projects responsibility but for local officials, for the most part, it is a burden to sit and receive a salary and do nothing but the simplest.
            1. +1
              April 24 2021 16: 08
              Quote: Vadim237
              so every year 1.5 trillion rubles are allocated from the federal budget for the development of regions, and at the end of the year, almost a trillion of this amount is returned to the budget as unspent, since in order to spend them you need to work

              Vadik, you are not talking about that again. First, what regions are the funds allocated to? How much?
              The ratio of taxes collected in the form of VAT and subsidies received?
              Second, do you know why so many funds are returned? Not because there is nowhere to spend, but because the spending of funds should take place exactly in the year of allocation, and there everything is so bureaucratized - horror. Talk to any budget accountant, they will explain to you.
    2. +7
      April 23 2021 19: 37
      How to lure good doctors, teachers, business representatives in 100500 small settlements

      As an option - to introduce compulsory 3-5-year work in the right places of those receiving education at the state expense. And also - for example, to knock them off the retirement age for the same period. You can come up with other preferences .. Let's say not to take taxes from them. There would be a desire. Which, apparently, is completely absent.
      1. 0
        April 23 2021 20: 00
        And they will consider these years lost and then remember with hatred.
        1. +7
          April 23 2021 21: 10
          Well - free education somehow needs to be worked out somehow, don't you? Nobody will bondage - if you don't want to go to the outback for 5 years, pay for your own education and work wherever you want. And then you have got into the habit - you are all for free and you are like all of yourself so creative and proud - you owe nothing to anyone .. That will not work. If the state pays, it means we pay, including those in need of their services in the provinces .. Is it so honest - you will see hell to pay for the specialists?

          In addition, with a proper set of nishtyaks, can we, on the contrary, burst? Here you will retire earlier, and the experience can be counted for a year and a half, and taxes will be at least ... Free retraining, but plenty of things you can think of ..
      2. +6
        April 23 2021 20: 09
        Obligation is such a thing in any form, especially since education "free" kakbe is not particularly free - but deliberately paid by your parents through taxes and fees. It turns out a double hire .. but let's say ok, this would partially solve the problem. Although in theory not really - a graduate is "green" and in 3-5 years he will at best form as a base for a specialist, at this moment he will pull and the next one will come in his place - so we will get an endless stream of "green" specialists in the provinces , which, although better than the aging adherents of brilliant green and iodine, will still be rather sad. To be honest, young people don't really think about retirement terms .. Here is an option with money that will cover part of the mortgage in the city of your choice - it seems to me more attractive. Or, for example, the larger size of the mother capital for children - if they are born and do not live in a million. Well, in my opinion, it is important that all this is not accompanied by some kind of tying of hands or pressure - people do not particularly like to sign contracts with Satan or something like that, it is much more pleasant for them to feel some kind of material benefit or exclusivity of the relationship.
        1. +5
          April 23 2021 21: 16
          Well, we can try, let's say the regions, to allocate targeted money for the training of specialists. Like I went on a quota paid by Ryazan - be kind in Ryazan and work out this money .. Everything is honest - the conditions are known in advance, no one is forcibly driving anyone away. And then you look - and it will take root, especially if it is local at all ..
          1. +4
            April 23 2021 21: 47
            If, in addition to these very "coercive" measures, a person is provided with conditions and then will not be held back by some cunning administrative measures, which unfortunately is taking place in our country, then perhaps this is an option. It seems that they were stirring up something like that - the program "zemstvo doctor" was at least voiced. True, there were some penny sums that this "zemstvo doctor" would save up for a year of stubborn office work in some regional center, but perhaps the program was somehow finalized ..

            In general, the more I think about "how could I have done better" the sadder it becomes - especially when I see the faces of Miller, Volodin, Sechin, Gref and some kind of Mikhelson - these people will not bother with this question from the word at all. They do not need a "zemstvo doctor" or some kind of rural teacher or subsidies for medium-sized businesses. And others will not be in power or with money - Wednesday, sir! The revenues of our country go to themselves bypassing this "hinterland" for the most part, so that in this "hinterland", except in words, everything was-is-will be purple, SORRY.
            1. +8
              April 23 2021 22: 49
              It's amazing - but did the Soviet government somehow manage to resolve these issues? And it seems without much bouncing ..
              1. 0
                April 23 2021 23: 24
                Well, as far as I understand, the Soviet government solved these issues to a certain extent, but the ways in which they were solved were, frankly, of dubious value.

                The planned economy filled niches with goods based on some of its own concepts, often far from the needs of the population, so that the issue of supplying some "special" cities was quite nothing. Given the fairly adequate prices for most products in the USSR, this created certain incentives. All this looks good, but in reality it is not very good, because "to get" and "to buy" were two different things, due to the management of the deficit, on the one hand, people sat where it was necessary for the state, on the other hand, a deficit is not normal if we are talking about a welfare state with a workable economy. Terms such as "supply categories" are generally discriminatory, not to mention the fact that this is a potential haven for all sorts of speculators and the "black-gray market" and, well, like the icing on the cake - for a system that punishes such people, in in general, according to the modern ordinary businessmen-shuttles.

                Relatively equal wages by the state + allowances in different difficult and bleak places and conditions. This was good, of course, because monetary incentives are the most "democratic" method of directing people to where the state needs them and for their own benefit. On the other hand, the USSR had a rather bad attitude towards the money of its citizens, repeated "monetary reforms" (essentially inflation), deficits, restrictions on acquisitions and movement of citizens outside, a certain shortage of services, etc. - created certain inconveniences for people who received more than others. So yes, this scheme worked, but it skidded a lot in the conditions of the "Byzantine" economy. In a market economy, this particular approach could not be implemented, because the "money" in the USSR was very different from modern money in its provision by the state, in fact, being pieces of paper for internal use, and the state could send them anywhere and in any way, collapsing from time to time financial bubbles.

                Expansion of benefits - there are different departmental sanatoriums, treatment, etc. It is certainly a good thing, but the essence is elitism and segregation. It's just that some kind of Vasya from the street, even with money, could not spend this money to get something like that, he could get such benefits only being in a tight suction with the state, which is also difficult to imagine in modern conditions in which there are such hosts of Vasya, many earn themselves doing those that in the USSR would be called "parasitism", and at the same time they have money. Accordingly, the issues of interests and convenience of these people would not be taken into account, and such a system would naturally receive increasing social pressure.

                Professional treatment - well, or brainwashing, politpurgen, patriots of the brain, etc.
                Agitprop in the USSR at times was just scrupulous, he could rub the workers in anything, from the glitter of noodles on their ears, people went as in a parade to the hardest work (well, or at least got there).
                A good option, again, the glorification of difficult conditions, the path of asceticism and highly moral asceticism - this inspires. It inspires when the state, to one degree or another, has a monopoly on information flows. Without this monopoly, more and more hard workers will find out that they do not live in the best conditions, let's say .. well, and will begin to be oppressed.

                Border control - such phenomena as "registration", certain difficulties with the acquisition of real estate and the almost complete impossibility of dumping for permanent residence over the hill also, in a definite measure, contributed to the fact that every cricket in the USSR knew his sixth. Even if a person was insanely bombed, various rules and social movements clung to him from childhood like mounting foam and carried away in the direction of "work". Considering that most of the people are still quite well-informed, this system in general "gently forced" even the most inactive, and for the active there were various S&M rides in the style of BAM or Celina.

                To summarize - excuse me, I love letters, because I love accuracy. The main instrument that the USSR was trying to achieve was "Force" and "Limit" through the two sides of these phenomena, all, or practically all, miracles were performed. This is not applicable now.
            2. +4
              April 23 2021 22: 55
              these very "coercive" measures

              I don't see anything forced here. A person voluntarily concludes a contract to work off the payment of his education in certain conditions. So what?? If I send an employee to study at my expense, I will also insist on certain obligations. Otherwise, why do I need it - to teach a person who then immediately escapes? Or, let's say, will demand an increase in salary, although he studied with my own money? IMHO - everything is logical ...
              1. +4
                April 24 2021 06: 35
                Quote: paul3390
                everything is logical

                Naturally, this is logical for a person whose goal is the development of the country. Others look for reasons. Under the Soviet Union, the village doctor knew and was able to do more than the newly minted doctor in the city today.
  7. +1
    April 23 2021 19: 15
    In Russia, the economy has merged too much with politics. That is, it is pointless to simply invest in the regions. We need real federalization, with the transfer of really serious powers to the regions. But the Kremlin will not agree to this. The local people crave absolute power - and they got it.
    1. +4
      April 23 2021 19: 39
      Real federalization is needed

      Uh-huh .. Just give local elites the power - they will immediately pull Russia apart in pieces, and the pieces - will be sold cheaply .. Nooo, federalization is not for us. The sad experience of the Union is a guarantee of that .. Only a rigidly unitary state.
      1. -2
        April 23 2021 19: 45
        Quote: paul3390
        Real federalization is needed

        Uh-huh .. Just give local elites the power - they will immediately pull Russia apart in pieces, and the pieces - will be sold cheaply .. Nooo, federalization is not for us. The sad experience of the Union is a guarantee of that .. Only a rigidly unitary state.

        Then the lag of the regions from Moscow and St. Petersburg will only accelerate.
        1. 0
          April 23 2021 19: 49
          No, if you do not create conditions for this .. If it will not be profitable to drag everything to Moscow, they will not drag it.
          1. -4
            April 23 2021 19: 51
            Quote: paul3390
            No, if you do not create conditions for this .. If it will not be profitable to drag everything to Moscow, they will not drag it.

            What are the conditions, if the unitary state implies that everyone works for the capital? Do you have examples of successful unitary states?
            1. +3
              April 23 2021 19: 52
              Where are such conclusions from? About working only for the capital?

              Let's say the PRC - is it federal? And Japan? Yes, full of examples ..
              1. -2
                April 23 2021 20: 02
                Quote: paul3390
                Where are such conclusions from? About working only for the capital?

                Let's say the PRC - is it federal? And Japan? Yes, full of examples ..

                China - yes, but in the same region as our regions, the same Gankong have their own budgets, which are not controlled by the Chinese authorities. In our country, on the contrary, all the money first goes to Moscow, and then Moscow distributes all the money back to whoever needs it more. But our problem is that 78 regions (as a keepsake) bring constant losses, and the rest of the regions contain them. Where does development come from? A unitary state works well when more than half of the regions generate income, as less money needs to be invested on the debts of unprofitable regions, and spending them in development projects. If the Russian Federation was richer, then the Unitary State would work, and so ... when the regions receive stubs from the budget, what kind of development can we talk about? I am already silent that it is very difficult to attract investors in our region, how good is needed for this from above (they say rudely), and so on. Japan is similar in general to the system of the Russian Federation for the distribution of money, the difference is that Japan is a rich country + money efficiency is higher. Alas, it is very small here.
                1. +2
                  April 23 2021 21: 19
                  It's just that in the case of a federation, the federal elites should be shuffled as often as possible. Let's say - once every 5 years. With no exceptions. In order not to have time to put down roots, to acquire the necessary local connections and start looking around.
                  1. 0
                    April 23 2021 21: 40
                    Quote: paul3390
                    It's just that in the case of a federation, the federal elites should be shuffled as often as possible. Let's say - once every 5 years. With no exceptions. In order not to have time to put down roots, to acquire the necessary local connections and start looking around.

                    For this to be so, elections are needed, and everything is going to the point that we will elect the maximum president and then trust in the referendum or not.
                    1. +3
                      April 23 2021 22: 51
                      Not. Elections will not give the desired effect. Only forced turnover. And then we know how and whom they choose from us .. One over there has been sitting for 20 years - soon Comrade Stalin will surpass. The truth is in contrast to him - with catastrophic results for the country.
                2. 0
                  April 25 2021 16: 51
                  Hong Kong is a special administrative region with a special status, which returned to the PRC only in 1997. The ordinary provinces and autonomous regions of the PRC do not have the same rights as Hong Kong and Macau.
            2. 0
              April 25 2021 11: 17
              The vast majority of countries in the world are unitary states. China, Indonesia, France, Italy, Great Britain and Spain (regionalist unitary states), Sweden and many other states. In Europe, the federations are Russia, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Belgium and BiH are atypical federations. Both the unitary and the federal state have their pluses and minuses. There is such a trend in the world now: elements of federalism in unitary states and an ever-increasing unitarization of federal states. Besides, everything is relative. The autonomous regions of the unitary regionalist Spain are much more independent in comparison with the regions of federal Austria, Venezuela, and even the Federal Republic of Germany.
            3. 0
              April 25 2021 17: 13
              What, in France or in the UK, everyone works for Paris or London? And these are unitary states.
        2. -4
          April 24 2021 16: 02
          By 2030, more than 100 trillion rubles will be invested in the Russian economy by state funds and private investments in all programs, plus in the military-industrial complex until 2033 - 22 trillion rubles by this, the lag of the regions can be sharply reduced.
          1. +2
            April 24 2021 17: 14
            and how many of them are there in Moscow? if not a penny, then you are certainly right, it will sharply decrease ..
            1. -3
              April 24 2021 20: 56
              On Moscow 7 trillion for the improvement of infrastructure and new technology parks, but this is purely the Moscow budget and private investment.
              1. +2
                April 25 2021 07: 46
                those. Moscow time and the budget is not needed, is she with a mustache? and who is she without the rest of Russia, where does the money come from, Zin?
      2. +1
        April 23 2021 20: 41
        And you are right and your opponent too .. this is the main organizational problem of our state - the leadership of everything from the center works worse and worse, unnecessary rights on the ground are more and more risky .. something in between leaves a significant number of "gray zones" in which corruption flourishes (
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  9. +7
    April 23 2021 19: 40
    Quote: Basarev
    In Russia, the economy has merged too much with politics. That is, it is pointless to simply invest in the regions. We need real federalization, with the transfer of really serious powers to the regions. But the Kremlin will not agree to this. The local people crave absolute power - and they got it.

    Already it was, we got a handful of feudal lords, with their own laws and complete lawlessness. No thanks
  10. -7
    April 23 2021 19: 44
    To develop - you need money, if your export outside is limited - then where will the money for development come from? Those countries that do not conflict with the rest of the world live well.
  11. +4
    April 23 2021 19: 59
    There is nothing to be done about it. Technocrats break the mentality through the knee. Many people marvel at multi-storey buildings, especially if they are illuminated. This is something primitive with a modern filling. There is not a single city that would not suffer from the encroachment on urban greenery. Many tourists are not interested in these skyscrapers, and they tend to the historical parts of the city. Monotowns are dying, not to mention villages. It turns out that Soviet economists were better able to count. And they built about villages factories, factories, industrial farms. Here you can pay less, and the workers will not be offended. They have subsidiary plots. They mainly needed money for industrial goods. Looked at Kaliningrad, it was a completely different matter. They did not bother to build houses in height.
  12. +7
    April 23 2021 20: 20
    Arkhangelsk Medical Institute in the 80s. led many years and very serious research work on how the size of the city of residence affects the duration and quality of life, on health.
    The most favorable are regional centers with a population of 200-300 thousand: there is decent medicine, and culture, and sports, and universities, and nature is not far away, and communication between people is lively.

    Millions cities, like vampires, every 500 thousand. steal several years of life
    In small cities - it doesn't matter with medicine, education of children, work
  13. +1
    April 23 2021 20: 21
    There is a change in the technological order, the socio-economic foundations of society are changing, the image of the people is changing, the state is trying with all its might to maintain its influence, but, alas, it is only losing its authority step by step. Even 10-15 years ago, many sociologists, politicians, businessmen said that "small territories (countries) are easier to manage." What needs to be done in this case is obvious. But God saved Russia once again. And the path of a new collapse of the country was not chosen, but the path of development of all its territories was not chosen either, although this was declared in words. We chose the third path, namely, the creation of 10 megalopolises, in which the bulk of the able-bodied population will live. The path may be justified, since 146 million people, no matter how hard they try, cannot populate and equip 17 square meters. km of Russian territory, even if we consider that part of this number of square meters. km is located beyond the Arctic Circle, for example, or in the impenetrable taiga, in the sultry steppes, etc. climatic zones. Unfortunately, any good idea can pave the way for development, but it can also be perverted, crumpled, over-organized, redirected to another path. Which is what happened. Let me explain that instead of gradually organizing small towns and satellite towns around megalopolises, abandoned villages were restored, where the standard of living would be equal to that of, say, Tverskaya Street. cities of Moscow, and which, thanks to modern transport, financial and information technologies, would have a tendency to extensive development and expansion, megalopolises themselves began to expand, and indeed, on the principle of cancer cells in a healthy body, devouring an overall healthy body. Moscow has set clear boundaries for itself, which in principle was contraindicated to do, because borders always imply isolation. The same happened in St. Petersburg, where there is also the Leningrad region, in the Urals in Yekaterinburg and the Sverdlovsk region, etc., where do not poke your finger on the map.
    Therefore, only measures to break down administrative boundaries, a kind of feudal fragmentation of the XNUMXst century, the elimination of any benefits that are not related to the qualifications of workers, but organized only on a territorial basis and affiliation, the fight against territorial and ethnic crime and corruption associated with it, and, as a consequence the success of this struggle, the development of medium and small business, can quickly lead the country out of various crises in which it, unfortunately, is immersed, give a real opportunity, first of all, to young people to face the future with confidence.
    This is my opinion, which I do not impose on anyone, and which appeared on the basis of my own vision of the situation in the country by the beginning of the 20s. XXI century.
    1. -3
      April 24 2021 16: 48
      The development of the territories will be provided primarily by the transport infrastructure and road construction. Ideally, 70000 km of autobahns and more than 1.5 million kilometers of asphalt-concrete roads should be built throughout Russia, but it is clear that this requires tens of trillions of rubles and tens of years of time.
      1. 0
        April 25 2021 16: 53
        We must not forget about the development of railway and river transport, and about the development of public transport in cities. And so, the sector of intercity road cargo transportation in our country is hypertrophied.
  14. +5
    April 23 2021 20: 42
    First of all, it is necessary to change the taxation system. There are three city-forming enterprises in my city, but they are located in Moscow. And taxes go to the place of registration. We were left with what was rolled off the master's shoulder
    1. +6
      April 24 2021 06: 41
      Just like VAT, which is then allegedly distributed by a "fair" hand across the regions. As a result, the one who worked the least receives the largest subsidies. They made a new emirate out of Chechnya, and they keep Ulyanovsk, Saratov, Samara on starvation rations. Where does development come from?
  15. +7
    April 23 2021 20: 48
    Moscow will always live better, for example, in Astrakhan, Vologda, etc., because dissatisfied Astrakhan and Khabarovsk are a nuisance for the authorities .. And dissatisfied Moscow is a big, huge problem ..
    1. -3
      April 24 2021 16: 37
      It's all about the number of people - the more there are in the city, the more developed the city will be in all respects.
      1. +2
        April 24 2021 17: 08
        where does this .. why in Krasnodar less than in Moscow time wages? in St. Petersburg less, in Novosibirsk and in ALL others, less for the same work, and in the wrong percentage, how much less are they in the number of people than Moscow time? Why in these cities there is no any type of payments to pensioners and other social groups, just in a lesser proportion, renovation, improvement in a lesser proportion, etc. in vain argue Vadim-Moscow time in a special position - this is a fact and not because of the number, but because of what I wrote in the FIRST place, and then the number of people ..
        1. -3
          April 24 2021 21: 01
          Because Moscow is a financial center - neither Krasnodar, Novosibirsk and other cities have a population of more than 13 million, and in Moscow, payments are more and more expensive for this.
          1. +2
            April 25 2021 07: 32
            I’m not about stating the facts, I’m about the reasons for the situation .. and so, you are certainly right, all the loot in Moscow time .. and the question is, what is more expensive in Moscow time except for housing than in Krasnodar? Food is also, cars, clothes are cheaper, entertainment is more affordable, there is more work .. but this is a consequence, not a reason .. I don’t run into Moscow time, understand .. I’m trying to establish a causal relationship ..
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  18. 0
    April 23 2021 21: 27
    This is no longer a "showdown" between the peoples-brothers ... it's already inside. As Nekrasov wrote in "Who Lives Well in Russia"? We agreed and argued. And as a result, the "face" was cleaned up for each other, the cooler the better!
    If a Muscovite and a "zamamedets" belong to different classes and cannot be friends, IS THIS NATION? No ... it reminds me of Soros's saying about a "banana republic without bananas." He has seen a lot of all sorts of yaks in the world ... And in Zanzibar, its capital, by the way, also Zanzibar, differs from the province in terms of comfort.
    The presence of atomic weapons "with which Stalin left Russia" does not change the essence of relations between compatriots. Nuclear weapons cannot make tribes into a nation. Rather, it is an additional risk factor for them.
    1. 0
      April 23 2021 21: 38
      Quote: ivan2022
      And in Zanzibar, its capital, by the way, also Zanzibar, differs from the province in terms of comfort.


      I remember the story of A.P. Chekhov "For Service". The words that "Motherland, Russia is Moscow and St. Petersburg. The rest is a colony. If you live in Russia, you have to live only in them."
  19. +3
    April 23 2021 21: 47
    ... The capital, as a hub of everything and everyone: human resources, trade, financial flows and investments

    Not the capital, but the power
    All this is all the more concentrated around power, the more power controls these processes, the more it is concentrated.
    Therefore, this will not happen in the village, unless the center of power will be located there. Or the level of concentration of power will decrease, then dispersal will occur.
    And mass construction and other urban planning is already a derivative.
    This is an old tradition - the courtiers kept close to the king as the main source of all kinds of favors and nishtyaks.
    1. +4
      April 24 2021 05: 20
      Quote: Avior
      This is an old tradition - the courtiers kept close to the king as the main source of all kinds of favors and nishtyaks.


      And then how does the state differ from the gang?

      There is an old story about King Frederick who was suing a peasant. Set out in the poem "The Miller from Sanssouci" by the Frenchman Andrieu (about 1790). Miller won a case in a Berlin court against the King of Prussia himself!
      Frederick himself said: "Bad laws in the good hands of performers are good; and the best laws in the hands of bad performers are harmful."
      This I mean that the best, fair and democratic Soviet laws ended in a complete mess ...

      In the "land of slaves, the land of masters" what laws have not been for the last about a century and a half! And the result is one - "the courtiers are closer to the king as to the main source of favors." Russia = metropolis Moscow + province as a colony.
      1. +5
        April 24 2021 07: 09
        Not all states have an ultra-high concentration of power among a narrow circle
  20. +7
    April 24 2021 00: 03
    About the North and the Far East. Develop? They have the "rotational method" in their heads. There is no need to develop infrastructure, pay sick leave, benefits, etc. All under GPC contracts.
  21. +7
    April 24 2021 06: 29
    What kind of outback was the author going to plow? Only pensioners and drunks have long been left in the villages. There is still life in the regional centers, but for how long. The authorities closed schools and hospitals in the villages. Optimized so to speak. It is NOT PROFITABLE to keep your farm now. The author can check this with a regular calculator.
    1. -2
      April 24 2021 16: 41
      The best option is to move from villages to regional centers.
      1. 0
        April 25 2021 16: 56
        Not only to regional centers. In each large area, you can still find two or three settlements. On the other hand, we have a democracy, who like to live with a privet, run a farm, let them live, but they do not count on special help from the state. Naturally, we are not talking about our elderly villagers, whom the state should take care of in any case.
  22. +2
    April 24 2021 06: 53
    The problem is not even in the cities, but in the household waste that these cities give away. Instead of recycling, they build incinerators. Recycling of batteries and accumulators is only in the center. The task of reducing the amount of waste is simply not there.
  23. 0
    April 24 2021 08: 22
    In the Russian Federation local taxes are at the level of statistical error. Someone from the authorities hissed: "Why do you need money? You will steal it anyway." And, indeed, they will "halve". Therefore, only administrative "reserves" are growing: Kazan, the Cradle of the Revolution, Golden-domed, Grozny, the birthplace of freedom of the Russian Federation, etc.
    For the "districts" all sorts of federal target programs and transfers remain. And here the main thing is to start with the hearts "I love" zas .... ck. "The electorate has a weakness for selfies. laughing Well, after the wisteria on the streets - this is the Third Rome, to Sobyanin.
  24. -2
    April 24 2021 14: 17
    The time has come to develop all of Russia, its precious endless expanses, and not just Moscow and St. Petersburg.

    You better not touch us the province .. We live, we chew bread and your messengers annoy us very much .. Usually, it ends badly, both for the envoy, and especially for the inhabitants of the distant outskirts of Russia! hi
  25. -4
    April 24 2021 15: 40
    "The possibility of disconnecting Russia from the international payment system SWIFT has been repeatedly discussed." This problem is no longer a problem since 2014, we have been working on our payment system and the result has already been.
  26. +1
    April 24 2021 19: 35
    The time has come to develop all of Russia, its precious endless expanses, and not just Moscow and St. Petersburg.

    That's right, Russia ranks 67th in the world in terms of living standards
    https://kakdobratsyado.ru/rejting-stran-mira-po-urovnyu-zhizni-naseleniya/
    1. -1
      April 24 2021 21: 20
      For 2021, Russia is in 61st place in terms of living standards.
  27. +2
    April 25 2021 10: 32
    Moscow and the Russian Federation are two different states, living according to different laws and cultural mentality. The first feels and behaves like a metropolis in relation to the territory of Zamkadye, like an occupier to a colony, it rules, and does not govern, like a pump sucking all resources from the regions. "Boyars" appointed by Moscow to "feed" the regions, destroy the local economy and infrastructure, "drag" their relatives and friends to key posts and enterprises, handing over the trusted region to plunder this horde, not forgetting themselves. All these temporary workers, leaving, leave behind "scorched earth" destroyed local traditional, promising business. Almost all over the world, the capital is a relatively small city, with the exception of some historically formed, but certainly without such a concentration of everything and everything in one metropolis. Such a concentration of power, absolutely all bureaucracy, business, scientific and educational, design and production leading enterprises, resources, 1% of the population, etc., etc. direct and obvious threat to the further existence of the state. And most importantly, the very cynical and contemptuous attitude of the capital to the rest of the country and the periphery as to temporary, alien, occupied territories, the same "love" "of the outskirts and slaves" new "nobles" receive, respectively, and in return.
    1. 0
      April 25 2021 17: 11
      And where in Europe can you name the capital in a small city? in 86% of countries, the capital is located in the largest city. London, Paris, Rome, Berlin, Madrid, Brussels are the largest cities in Great Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Belgium. The same can be said about almost all countries of Western, Northern and Eastern Europe. The share of London or Paris in the population of Great Britain and France, Vienna in the population of Austria, Budapest in the population of Hungary is much higher than the share of Moscow in Russia. And in most countries in Asia, Africa, Latin America the same way. Tokyo itself is the largest city in Japan, and the center of the agglomeration and megalopolis of Tokaido. Beijing and its urban area is inferior in population to Shanghai, but it is still the second city in the country, huge both in terms of population and economic potential. Here is a table for those countries where the official capital is not in the largest city: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_countries_where_the_capital_is_the_largest city. Please note that in some cases the actual center is located in another city, usually the largest. And sometimes it may not be the first city, but still one of the largest. Or, the capital is considered to be a part of the largest urban agglomeration, artificially separated from its composition in administrative terms.
  28. 0
    April 25 2021 15: 56
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    United Russia members, you can't knock off what to take from them. Here is the result of the work of this government.

    Dear Ingvar72! I have never written anywhere and never said that in Russia everything and everywhere good and no flaws and mistakes. Moreover, I always write and say that there are still many shortcomings in Russia! As in any other (even boasting of their "development") country. But, speaking about the whole country, I always try to see everything (both negative and positive) and think comprehensively, NOT to see everything either in black or in pink light, NOT to be a blinkered gloomy skeptic-melancholic, or an infantile enthusiastic idealist. And do not draw conclusions about all country for one (several) negative examples.

    It is clear that when the shortcomings are not abstract, but concern you or your loved ones, then it is strongly felt and hits the psyche. We must fight and strive! If you are right, then the people will reach for you. And the local United Russia villains will be able to "knock down" and become the power!

    By the way, Putin spoke about gas in his recent message. I think the issue should be resolved soon.

    Ordinary ... "halva, halva, ha-a-alva-ah ....!"
    Well, has it become "sweet"? lol
  29. 0
    April 25 2021 17: 51
    The Federation in the Russian Federation was created artificially, from above, there has never been a special social movement for its creation. It would make sense if the borders of the USSR were preserved. Within the current borders of the Russian Federation, Russian regions have never felt the need for federalization, but to have a full-fledged federation for the sake of two dozen republics of the Russian Federation, in which 15% of the population of the Russian Federation lives and which give about 10% of the country's GDP, while in a good half of them "title "Ethnic groups make up less than half of the population, you see, it's also not a reason. Broad autonomy within the framework of a unitary state would be quite enough for them. But it will not work to abolish the federation either, this can lead to many negative consequences. Therefore, in the Russian Federation, a highly centralized, unified federation is inevitable, with many features of a unitary state. This is neither good nor bad. In addition to us, there are several other similar centralized federations created from above, including in India (albeit for slightly different reasons). It is necessary to take into account the following fact. In a country with a population of 146 million 85 subjects of the Federation, most of them are too small in terms of economic potential and (or) population. And they do not want to unite or enlarge either. To speak almost on an equal footing with Moscow and the Moscow region, the rest of the subjects of at least the Central Federal District must unite into three or four territories or regions with centers, say, in Voronezh, Yaroslavl and Belgorod (or Kursk, or Bryansk). But neither the population nor the authorities of small regions of Central Russia want this. Tiny Adygea, where two-thirds of the population are Slavs, surrounded on all sides by the Krasnodar Territory, which is more than ten times more populous, categorically does not want to return to its composition. Small by Siberian standards, the Tomsk region never wants to unite with the Novosibirsk region. The Kurgan Oblast does not want to merge with the Tyumen Oblast or the Chelyabinsk Oblast for anything. Khakassia does not want to return to the Krasnoyarsk Territory. Moreover, please note that the standard of living of people and the ability to defend their interests at the federal level are still in most (although, I admit, not always) cases higher in large, populous constituent entities of the federation, preferably with a capital of over a million. The authorities consider the Sverdlovsk region, Krasnodar region, Tatarstan and Bashkortostan more than with the Kostroma region, Mordovia, etc. But, on the other hand, it is also important here not to overdo it in the matter of enlargement. Small subjects of the federation are bad, but Russia does not need super-large monsters either. In other words, 85 subjects are too much, but 10-15 and even 25 are not enough. The issue has long been studied by economists, economic geographers (Khorev, Usyagin, Shishkov, etc.), who came to the conclusion that the optimal number of subjects within the current boundaries is 35-45. Moreover, they will still differ in their potential. There will be large, medium and small. For example, there is no point in joining the Kaliningrad region or Kamchatka, or Sakhalin to anyone due to geographic circumstances.
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  30. 0
    April 26 2021 16: 07
    ... Exempt from taxes and provide free gas.
  31. 0
    April 28 2021 17: 18
    our country has long since turned from a federation into a colonial power.
    There are MSCs and there are colonies outside the Ring Road, which are being mercilessly plundered by the center.

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