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Vaccine non grata: why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union

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The success of the Russian Federation in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic is difficult not to recognize. The point is not only the relatively mild, in comparison with other countries, the consequences of the pandemic for society, which was directly related to the peculiarities of the organization of the Russian health care system, but also with the development of a vaccine against a dangerous disease. The Russian drug "Sputnik V", developed by the National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology named after N.F. Gamaleya and the 48th Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, was registered on August 11, 2020, and in December 2020, free vaccination began in Russia all interested citizens with this drug.


Naturally, soon interest in the Russian vaccine began to be shown abroad as well. First of all, we are talking about the developing countries of Asia, Africa and Latin America. Today, more than 60 countries around the world either already use the vaccine or are going to purchase it. By April 13, 2021, the Sputnik V vaccine was registered in 61 countries of the world. But Europe is hesitating, and obviously not for medical reasons.

Medical tourism to Russia


According to the German edition Der Spiegel, a very unusual phenomenon has recently been observed - medical tourism to Russia. All of us have long been accustomed to the fact that it is from Russia to Germany that they go to be treated: German clinics are known throughout the world for their highly qualified specialists and modern equipment. However, in this case, the opposite happened: Germans from highly developed and enlightened Germany, desperate to be vaccinated against Covid-19 in their native country, go to Russia.

According to Der Spiegel, the first "vaccine tour" to Moscow, organized by a Norwegian firm and held in mid-April, brought together 50 German citizens. As the Germans who came to Russia to get vaccinated say, at home they would have to wait for vaccinations for months. Everything went very quickly in Russia. In Germany itself, as in other EU countries, they are vaccinated with AstraZeneca. According to the Germans themselves, it is inferior in effectiveness to the Russian vaccine, but this is not even the point: it is very difficult to get vaccinated in Germany because of organizational issues. So, first one age group is vaccinated, then another, and if you do not belong to these age groups, you will have to wait for your turn for a long time.

But even if Germany has problems with the speed of vaccination, then why shouldn't the Germans find some other country, besides Russia, where they could get vaccinated? The answer is simple - in Russia, oddly enough, there were the least bureaucratic obstacles. For example, in the USA it is very difficult to get a visa, and in Serbia there are no free places to enroll.

Of course, for foreign citizens, vaccination in Russia is paid. The Minister of Health of Russia Mikhail Murashko himself drew attention to this. Foreigners are vaccinated at a price of 30 euros per injection in private medical clinics, while the cost of "vaccine tours" is much higher - about 2 thousand euros, but this price includes travel, accommodation and meals for the period of the medical procedure.

But why shouldn't European countries just allow the use of the Russian vaccine? Now the European Union is dragging out the process of resolving Sputnik in every possible way. And the more bureaucratic delays appear, the more obvious it is that Brussels does not allow the Russian vaccine to pass for medical reasons. This is a political question. The West by no means wants to show that "Putin's" Russia is doing something better, faster, more efficiently. The vaccine is no exception.


The question is political: the EU does not dare to purchase the Russian vaccine


The European political mythology of recent years is based on the demonization of Russia. But the coronavirus pandemic put the effectiveness of anti-Russian propaganda into question: first, Europe saw Russian doctors in Italy, and then Russia was the first to present the vaccine against the terrible disease and began to supply it to other countries.

If Brussels now officially agrees to purchase Sputnik V, it will be very difficult to explain why it took the “sinister dictator” Putin to purchase the vaccine? What prevented the creation of an equally effective tool in the EU itself? And how does the emergence of an advanced vaccine compare with the constant ranting that apart from the military sphere, nothing is developing in Russia, and the whole country is in complete ruin?

Interestingly, those EU countries in which more or less patriotic forces are in power, for which the health and safety of their citizens is much higher than amorphous European interests, have already gradually begun to use the Russian vaccine. The most disobedient member of the EU, which was to be expected, turned out to be the "dissident number one" of the European Union - Hungary, with its odious and unloved in Brussels Viktor Orban. Budapest does not even hide the fact that it has begun purchasing Russian vaccines.

Austria is also in favor of purchasing Russian vaccines, the German leadership is also inclined in favor of registering Sputnik V, but the position of the EU itself remains unchanged. Among the open opponents of the vaccine are Ukraine and the Baltic republics. But this is not surprising: the governments of these countries completely dependent on the United States are concerned exclusively with serving the interests of overseas patrons, and not with the health of their own populations.

Caring for citizens is not included in the plans of the European Union


In Germany and other Western European countries, the situation is more complicated. On the one hand, even many anti-Russian politicians and publications do not doubt the effectiveness of the Russian vaccine, and the heads of some federal states call for legalizing the use of Sputnik as soon as possible.


Antique police cordons in Europe have long become commonplace

But on the other hand, official Berlin is in no hurry to register the Russian funds: it is obvious that Angela Merkel is not in a position to quarrel with Brussels and Washington on another fundamental issue.

It is possible that the federal German authorities, given the status of Germany as a federal republic, would prefer to absolve themselves of responsibility for the purchase of the vaccine and transfer this issue to the competence of the federal states. Actually, the latter are already acting independently. For example, plans to purchase vaccines were announced in the federal states of Bavaria and Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania. The authorities of Saxony and Thuringia are asking the federal government for an immediate purchase of the vaccine, regardless of the position of Brussels on this issue.

In any case, Berlin will have to close its eyes to the initiative of the federal states in order to avoid the growth of political tension in the country. But the possibilities of the federal states to purchase the vaccine are still significantly inferior to the federal center, so the amount of Russian vaccine that may appear in Germany in the future cannot be called sufficient to vaccinate everyone. Of course, this will affect both the availability and the cost of the vaccine, but this is not our problem.

As for the Europeans themselves, they should have pondered: are those people and parties running them? After all, so far everything indicates that political ambitions and the desire to please the United States prevail among many European governments over common sense and over concern for sanitary and epidemiological safety in their own countries.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From April 23 2021 10: 06
    +4
    They want to spite the grandma to freeze their ears ..... go ahead and with the song! Lavrov's phrase.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 23 2021 10: 18
      +3
      Quote: Alien From
      They want to spite the grandma to freeze their ears ..... go ahead and with the song! Lavrov's phrase.

      "Everywhere money, money, money! Everywhere money, gentlemen!" .... what a nightmare, Russia will make money on vaccinations of Europeans! And if you count the Europeans, and then the rest ... on other continents ... "Samaxim money is obtained," as A. Raikin said. Well, politics, of course! Well, everyone will come out of submission and will not believe either in the wickedness of Russia or in the power of the United States.
      1. dorz
        dorz April 23 2021 10: 44
        +9
        Chinese friends' attitudes towards foreign vaccines sad :

        Travelers vaccinated by Pfizer, Moderna or Johnson & Johnson can provide evidence as part of the documentation required to enter China, the Chinese embassy in Washington said in a statement. At the moment, these are the only vaccines developed by non-Chinese manufacturers that accept documents to enter China.... Citizens of other countries are required to be vaccinated with Chinese vaccines.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 10: 46
          +12
          Quote: dorz
          At the moment, these are the only vaccines developed by non-Chinese manufacturers that accept documents to enter China.

          And where are our vaccines, because they were created in collaboration with China !?
          1. For example
            For example April 23 2021 12: 11
            +9
            Quote: Alien From
            They want to spite the grandma to freeze their ears ..... go ahead and with a song

            Quote: Egoza
            what a nightmare, Russia will work


            In England, about 44 million citizens are vaccinated.
            In Germany 24 million
            There are over 200 million in the United States.

            We have 16 million.

            Data from https://coronavirus-monitor.ru/

            Stop balaboling.

            It is necessary to judge by deeds.

            France - 17 million
            Turkey - 20 million

            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx April 24 2021 10: 36
              -1
              Quote: For example
              Stop balaboling.
              It is necessary to judge by deeds.

              Oh, come on! This is how the picture "The proportion of vaccinated population" looks like:

              Where the naked eye can see the place of the Russian Federation - the inventor and manufacturer (???) of the vaccine against COVID-19. Therefore, talking about something else is inappropriate.
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell April 24 2021 17: 52
                +3
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Quote: For example
                Stop balabolit.It is necessary to judge on deeds.
                Therefore, talking about something else is inappropriate.

                Just now, one eccentric from the EU was giving an interview - he did not say a word negative about Russian vaccines, but the devil is in the details: Russia offers technologies, but there is simply no free capacity in Europe / the announced production in Italy will reach industrial volumes by the end of summer, not for Europe /; the Russian Federation itself cannot provide the required volumes; the question of promoting certification remains open - or vaccination will not facilitate freedom of travel crying
                There will be certification in Europe - there will be even more vaccine tourists and freedom of movement for Russians
          2. nils
            nils April 23 2021 12: 22
            +2
            Quote: Overlock
            Where are our vaccines?

            It should be recalled that the Sputnik-V vaccine was specially approved for use in Russia after reduced tests of 1-2 phases involving an unacceptably small number of healthy young volunteers. The publication of the results of this test raised doubts about the quality of the study among specialists in Russia and abroad. The published corrections to the article, which were not accompanied by explanations of the origin of errors in the text, only exacerbated the mistrust of the report.
            The analysis of the results of RCTs of the third phase was carried out with a deviation from the protocol.
            34% of cases were excluded from the safety analysis. The authors explain this by the delay in obtaining information, which does not seem entirely convincing, given the information technology used and the importance of the issue.
            There is insufficient data on deaths. A more detailed description of these cases is required.
            The authors note that cases of COVID-19 were detected by self-observation of patients, assessed by a doctor and confirmed by PCR. Thus, no asymptomatic cases were detected. If vaccination leads to a significant reduction in the severity of the disease, then vaccinated people who carry the infection easily and asymptomatic can be active carriers of the infection. In other words, vaccination may accelerate the spread of infection rather than slow it down. This RCT, as well as RCTs of other vaccines already approved under temporary conditions for use, did not aim to assess the effect of vaccination on the spread of infection.
            The follow-up period for trial participants is very short, with a median of 48 days. With an insignificant phase 1-2 trial and the actual completion of a phase 3 RCT, this means that the safety of the vaccine beyond one and a half months is not known. Before the present epidemic, adenoviral vector vaccines had not been approved in the world, and an abbreviated trial of a fundamentally new technology intended for mass use cannot but cause concern.
            The text contains numerous errors, ambiguities in the text, and possible misprints. For example, the number of people observed in the vaccination group is greater on day 20 than on day 10 (15717 and 15338). It is impossible, just as it is impossible to become twenty without being ten years old.
            Conclusion
            The feasibility of using any medical intervention is determined by the balance of benefits and harms from its use, i.e. the ratio of efficiency and safety. Analysis of the phase 3 trial data reported in the publication and the RCT registry leaves both of these aspects of the intervention highly uncertain.
            Ph.D. V.A. Aksenov, MD, PhD, prof. V.V. Vlasov
            1. Rubi0
              Rubi0 April 24 2021 15: 52
              0
              So no vaccine in the world has passed the 3rd phase of testing, the rest is all politics and water from your text
          3. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 24 2021 06: 22
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            Where are our vaccines?, because they were created in collaboration with China !?

            I don’t know about you, but I did my first Sputnik V vaccination on Wednesday, today is Saturday, there are no problems yet, I feel great, which is what I wish for you.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx April 24 2021 10: 40
              -4
              Quote: Tank Hard
              I don’t know about you, but I did my first Sputnik V vaccination on Wednesday, today is Saturday, there are no problems yet, I feel great, which is what I wish for you.

              Why do we need your assurances when we have:
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard April 24 2021 11: 26
                +2
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Why do we need your assurances when we have:

                You have your own priorities and idols.))
        2. Barberry25
          Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 08
          +2
          rather corny the question has not been resolved yet
          1. Blacksmith 55
            Blacksmith 55 April 23 2021 11: 32
            +5
            We have already decided.
            Just yesterday it was announced that Germany is purchasing 30 million doses of Sputnik.
            The first batch will arrive in May.
            And yes, there is tourism to Russia for the vaccine.
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 35
              +2
              oo .. the topic passed by me .. well, okay, well, good)
              1. Blacksmith 55
                Blacksmith 55 April 23 2021 11: 52
                -1
                In the fall of 2020, Sputnik V was vilified in every way. And not tested, not investigated, admitted early, etc.
                But now you won't hear a single bad word, and even some politicians (not of the first rank) went to Russia to get vaccinated.
                Astracenica has a side effect, the blood clogs the vessels, and several dozen people have already died in different countries, in most cases women.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 14: 27
                  -1
                  Quote: Blacksmith 55
                  But now you won't hear a single bad word, and even some politicians (not of the first rank) went to Russia to get vaccinated.

                  How! My sister is a physician, she has been working in medicine since the 80s: "Vovka, don't try to get vaccinated!" A friend's wife works in dentistry, she also discourages vaccinations.
                  1. Mikhail m
                    Mikhail m April 24 2021 20: 00
                    +1
                    And do they substantiate their position with something? If there were undesirable consequences of the vaccination, our partners from 61 countries did not hesitate to publish them. The nurse's sister and the wife of a friend's dentist are hardly authorities in epidemiology. But the epidemiologists are just screaming - get vaccinated.
                  2. PROVINCIAL
                    PROVINCIAL April 29 2021 01: 24
                    +1
                    That is why Russia is the last in terms of the number of vaccinated. The Internet has developed a real war against vaccination. What they just do not write: "mutation in three years", "instant cancer", horns and hooves will grow, etc. etc. Or, like a respected "Mordvin 3" family, they work in the hospital. A direct analogy is the "officer's daughter". If you do not want to be vaccinated, this is your business. Why should I (and many) know about this? It's like homosexuality (I'm a tolerant person) - in his bedroom a person can do what he wants, why tell others? You upset me Vladimir, so a minus.
                2. atalef
                  atalef April 24 2021 10: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: Blacksmith 55
                  But now you won't hear a single bad word, and even some politicians (not of the first rank) went to Russia to get vaccinated

                  what for ? vaccines are absolutely available in Europe. even more so for politicians.
                  1. Blacksmith 55
                    Blacksmith 55 April 24 2021 12: 13
                    +3
                    Where does this information come from?
                    Vaccination (at least in Germany) depends on age and profession. First, everyone is over 80, now only over 60. They want to cancel all this somewhere from June-July.
                    And who works in health care and elderly care.
                    I'm 66 and can't get vaccinated yet.
                    And you write the vaccine is available to everyone.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef April 24 2021 12: 51
                      -3
                      Quote: smith 55
                      Where does this information come from?
                      Vaccination (at least in Germany) depends on age and profession. First, everyone is over 80, now only over 60. They want to cancel all this somewhere from June-July.
                      And who works in health care and elderly care.
                      I'm 66 and can't get vaccinated yet.
                      And you write the vaccine is available to everyone.

                      It's strange, we have almost the entire adult population vaccinated, and soon they will begin to vaccinate children.
                3. atalef
                  atalef April 24 2021 10: 49
                  -4
                  Quote: Blacksmith 55
                  Astracenica has a side effect, the blood clogs the vessels, and several dozen people have already died in different countries, in most cases women.

                  Faizer by the way the same has side effects - all the difference between Western vaccines and the Russian one. that some do not hide statistics, including mortality (any vaccine has a lethality - even from the flu) and only Sputnik is ok. no side effects and everything is in chocolate. and when they ask for statistics - zilch.
                4. Saxahorse
                  Saxahorse April 24 2021 20: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Blacksmith 55
                  In the fall of 2020, Sputnik V was vilified in every way. And not tested, not investigated, admitted early, etc.

                  In the fall, Gunzburg reported on every corner that Sputnik was the closest analogue of AstraZeneca. Today, against the backdrop of news from Europe about this AstraZeneca, for some reason, abruptly fell silent.

                  Gloat over the problems of AstraZeneca does not paint our media, but it explains well why neither Europe nor China is in a hurry to officially recognize Sputnik. The satellite is a very real vaccine, and it works, but there is no objective information about its side effects. Recognize Europa Sputnik as a valid vaccine, they will have to be financially responsible for every complication. And this is our life and health in a penny is regarded, in Europe millions will have to be paid for each incident.

                  So they prefer to wait. Do you want to be vaccinated with Sputnik? Forward, at your own peril and risk. Governments do not want to take responsibility for Sputnik on themselves.
          2. Blacksmith 55
            Blacksmith 55 April 23 2021 11: 35
            +3
            I apologize .
            First batch in June.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx April 24 2021 10: 45
              -4
              Quote: Blacksmith 55
              I apologize .
              First batch in June.

              Take a look at the infection graph. You can compare "before" and "after" the start of vaccinations:
      2. Vladislav Trofimov
        Vladislav Trofimov 1 May 2021 17: 11
        0
        Well, politics, of course!

        and politics too ...
        no one wants Putin to use the vaccine as leverage, as oil and gas were used at one time ...
    2. antivirus
      antivirus April 23 2021 10: 39
      +6
      The European political mythology of recent years is based on the demonization of Russia.

      - not to freeze, but to demonize - this is the main thing. + the owner does not allow money to be spent on someone else's vaccine.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 24 2021 23: 49
        +8
        Quote: antivirus
        The European political mythology of recent years is based on the demonization of Russia.

        They simply save their money, which can be saved by using quality medicines. Chinese arbidol is sold to you
    3. prior
      prior April 23 2021 11: 43
      +3
      "why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union"

      Well, how why ?! recourse
      He's too aggressive ........ towards the coronavirus. tongue
      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 58
        +4
        laughing and to me ... after the first injection my temperature rose to 37,4, and after the second to 38,6 ..
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        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 24 2021 06: 26
          -1
          Quote: Barberry25
          and to me ... after the first injection my temperature rose to 37,4, and after the second to 38,6 ..

          Sputnik V got the first vaccination on Wednesday, today is Saturday, no problems, everything is normal. I feel great.
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 April 24 2021 09: 51
            +1
            depends on age, for example, one of my relatives .. age about 55, on the second injection the temperature rose, while the other, 70+ did not have a reaction at all .. pensioners have a near-zero reaction, and the younger, the stronger the reaction .. but "if the temperature has risen above 38-knock down ".. words of the nurse
        3. atalef
          atalef April 24 2021 10: 50
          +2
          Quote: Barberry25
          and to me ... after the first injection my temperature rose to 37,4, and after the second to 38,6 ..

          I was vaccinated with Faizer, after the first - it was normal, after the second - as a pre-flu condition was 2 days.
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      1. mark2
        mark2 April 23 2021 15: 49
        +1
        The European Union does not care deeply about Ukraine. If Russia right now carries out a punitive operation to destroy the entire top of this country, there will only be screams and squeaks. And that's all ... remember the clown: that the Russians, that the Ukrainians - for them we are all Russians. And Russians are just enemies for their politicians. And the more we bark, the more joy it will bring to the collectible west.
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          1. Mikhail m
            Mikhail m April 24 2021 20: 04
            0
            Vasyok, your nonsense even minus laziness.
          2. Overlock
            Overlock April 24 2021 23: 52
            +6
            Quote: michael.jacksno
            First, Russia is incapable of committing the murder of the elite, no matter which country

            I do not agree, I can
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 24 2021 23: 51
          +7
          Quote: mark2
          If Russia right now carries out a punitive operation to destroy the entire top of this country, there will only be screams and squeaks.

          Don't be fooled! A president will come and everything will stop. The example of the 14th year is not impressive?
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          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 24 2021 11: 24
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            Well, while the fat one dries, the thin one dies. their life expectancy is much higher than in Russia and the percentage of vaccinated is the same

            It doesn't matter if it is their choice whether to buy the vaccine, inject it or not, personally I am in favor of not selling the vaccine to anyone, especially since the vaccine is so bad in their opinion. Advertising is from "effective managers in everything", I do not consider them part of my people.))
            Quote: atalef
            Well, so far there has been no refutation from Russia. that the persons identified as having carried out the explosion were not in the Czech Republic at the time

            In general, I think that spit and grind on the opinion of the Czechs. Who cares why, I refer to the wonderful work of Hasek about the adventures of the gallant soldier Schweik, she clearly describes the reason why warehouses burn and explode. And for those who are gifted alternatively, all the same, it is counterproductive to prove.))
            Quote: atalef
            It’s strange. Shooters with a fire extinguisher pinned there

            I did not participate in this and did not participate in Odessa. The question is not for me.
            Quote: atalef
            More sanctions - I've already heard this somewhere.

            What do you want with that ?!)))
            1. Mikhail m
              Mikhail m April 24 2021 20: 07
              +1
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Who cares why, I refer to the wonderful work of Hasek about the adventures of the gallant soldier Schweik, which clearly describes the reason why warehouses burn and explode

              Special thanks for Schweik. It lay right on my heart. I'm going to reread it.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 24 2021 23: 54
          +4
          Quote: Tank Hard
          don't buy and die. your sovereign right.))

          Here's the trouble, without the Sputnik everyone will die, and you are in paradise laughing
          How it is necessary to powder the brain!
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 25 2021 13: 46
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            Here's the trouble, without the Sputnik everyone will die, and you are in paradise
            How it is necessary to powder the brain!

            well, yes, there you have ample opportunities on the outskirts, they will give you a gift, but then))
      3. Barberry25
        Barberry25 April 24 2021 11: 08
        +1
        laughing and for some reason, in 7 years they could not provide evidence ... that it was Russia to blame that their warehouse of old shells exploded
      4. bk0010
        bk0010 April 24 2021 14: 48
        0
        Quote: michael.jacksno
        Do you think Europeans don't care?
        Okay, let them die without a vaccine.
      5. Ilya Nikitich
        Ilya Nikitich April 24 2021 16: 24
        0
        Vasyafomin, find a better translator, and improve your Russian. And then a mile away you can feel that Russian is not very native to you ...
    5. atalef
      atalef April 24 2021 10: 45
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      They want to spite the grandma to freeze their ears ..... go ahead and with the song! Lavrov's phrase.

      the problem is not Russophobia, the problem is (as I understand it, 0 satellite does not protect against virus mutations.
      other vaccines are manufactured using RNA technologies. Although I do not understand anything in ezhtom
      1. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m April 24 2021 20: 10
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        Although I do not understand anything in ezhtom

        Maybe you shouldn't strain the keyboard then?
      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 24 2021 23: 56
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        the problem is (as I understand it, 0 satellite does not protect against virus mutations.

        The problem is that the purgen pill is divided into two parts: one for diarrhea, the other for the head. It was, it is and it will be
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 25 2021 13: 49
          0
          Quote: Overlock
          The problem is that the purgen pill is divided into two parts: one for diarrhea, the other for the head. It was, it is and it will be

          you apparently have a lot of experience in this matter, I respect you, fix yourself))
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 23 2021 10: 13
    +3
    And to calculate the cost of the vaccine market, the Western pharmaceutical giants are now bringing money to politicians. Yes, Sputnik 5 can be better, cheaper! But the money is at stake, and it will stand for a long time. Capitalists are not interested in people's health when such a "cosmic" shine shines. profit. Politics plays a secondary role here.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock April 23 2021 10: 22
      +11
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Yes, Sputnik 5 can be better, cheaper!

      Who can argue, it is for the poor. And to assess the effectiveness you need to have statistics, I doubt it, you own it. Just what to do with it?
      "Kirill was paralyzed": four problems of coronavirus vaccines emerged
      https://www.mk.ru/social/2021/03/05/kirilla-paralizovalo-proyavilis-chetyre-problemy-vakcin-ot-koronavirusa.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 April 23 2021 10: 33
        0
        I definitely do not have statistics, but in our many thousands of working collective there have been no excesses with a vaccine, technical personnel will be vaccinated last, and there are no statistics throughout the country. With mortality from Cavid, you have to take our word for it, although after the wife was treated in an antikane hospital, questions arose with mortality! And the fact that it began before the new node was confirmed by antibody tests, someone was just lucky to be cured with simple anti-flu antibiotics.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 10: 48
          +5
          Quote: tralflot1832
          And there are no statistics for the whole country.

          Are you Popova?
          Quote: tralflot1832
          but in our work collective of many thousands of excesses with a vaccine while did not have

          An important word!
      2. ghby
        ghby April 23 2021 10: 53
        -3
        Quote: Overlock
        Who can argue, it is for the poor. And to assess the effectiveness you need to have statistics, I doubt it, you own it. Just what to do with it?
        "Kirill was paralyzed": four problems of vaccines against coronavirus appeared
        https://www.mk.ru/social/2021/03/05/kirilla-paralizovalo-proyavilis-chetyre-problemy-vakcin-ot-koronavirusa.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com


        Quote from the wiki: 1-3 weeks before the onset of the disease, most patients show signs of infection of the gastrointestinal tract or respiratory tract. Most often - after enteritis caused by Campylobacter jejuni (the risk of developing GBS increases by about 100 times). It can also be an infection caused by herpes viruses (cytomegalovirus, Epstein-Barr virus, etc.), mycoplasmas, Haemophilus influenzae, etc. In particular, Guillain-Barré syndrome can be a manifestation of HIV infection Severe cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome are rare , but they can lead to almost complete paralysis. Most people recover completely even in the most severe cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome. Here, rather, an individual feature of the organism, and not a jamb of a vaccine. And you don't need to make an elephant out of a fly.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 23 2021 20: 13
          -5
          Quote: ghby
          Here, rather, an individual feature of the organism, and not a jamb of a vaccine. And you don't need to make an elephant out of a fly.

          Yes, I see you are a doctor! Cite Murzilka next time. If you want to be smart, quote the monograph.
          Etiology of Guyon-Baré syndrome:
          can be triggered by various infectious agents (bacteria, viruses), and vaccination, surgical interventions, injuries, stress, physical activity, hypothermia, etc.
          And catching up: researchers from Brigham and Women's Hospital (USA) have published a clinical case of Guillain-Barré syndrome development 10 days after the administration of Johnson & Johnson adenovirus vaccine.
          Well, just for the "smart" ones: Clinical observation of a patient with Guillain-Barré syndrome after vaccination against COVID-19
          1) FGAOU VO “Russian National Research Medical University named after N.I. Pirogov "Ministry of Health of Russia, Moscow;
          2) JSC "Medicine", Moscow
          https://lib.medvestnik.ru/articles/Klinicheskoe-nabludenie-pacienta-s-sindromom-Giiena-Barre-posle-vakcinacii-ot-COVID-19.html

          Do not poke your nose where you do not understand anything.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 24 2021 06: 44
            -2
            Quote: Silvestr
            Don't poke your nose where you don't understand anything.

            Well, you poke around there all the time, but why can't he?))
            1. New Year day
              New Year day April 24 2021 07: 13
              -1
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Well, you poke around there all the time, but why

              Another infectious disease specialist was found! Enter a medical school and then you will be clever. In fact, are there any objections? - No. Hello family laughing
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard April 24 2021 07: 16
                -1
                Quote: Silvestr
                Another infectious disease specialist was found! Enter a medical school and then you will be clever. In fact, there are objections

                Unlike you, I don't get into things where I don't understand, I don't climb))
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day April 24 2021 07: 43
                  -3
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Unlike you, I don't get into things where I don't understand, I don't climb))

                  And this is good! But the general development of the brain has not been canceled.
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard April 24 2021 07: 45
                    -1
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    And this is good! But the general development of the brain has not been canceled.

                    good comrade Master of Sports, Major Chingachgook! I will try! You are an example for us!)))
            2. Overlock
              Overlock April 24 2021 23: 58
              +4
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Well, you poke around there all the time, but why can't he?))

              Well comment
              Quote: ghby
              Severe cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome are rare, but they can lead to near-total paralysis. Most people recover completely even in the most severe cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome. Here, rather, an individual feature of the organism, and not a jamb of a vaccine. And you don't need to make an elephant out of a fly.

              Quote: Silvestr
              : Clinical observation of a patient with Guillain-Barré syndrome after vaccination against COVID-19
              1) FGAOU VO “Russian National Research Medical University named after N.I. Pirogov "Ministry of Health of Russia, Moscow;
              2) JSC "Medicine", Moscow
              https://lib.medvestnik.ru/articles/Klinicheskoe-nabludenie-pacienta-s-sindromom-Giiena-Barre-posle-vakcinacii-ot-COVID-19.html

              Your thought is interesting - a very specific example from the capital of Moscow is given.
      3. Tank hard
        Tank hard April 24 2021 06: 42
        -1
        Quote: Overlock
        Who can argue, it is for the poor. And to assess the effectiveness you need to have statistics, I doubt it, you own it. Just what to do with it?

        graft yourself with a "pfizer", what are the problems?))
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 24 2021 07: 14
          -4
          Quote: Tank Hard
          graft yourself with a "pfizer", what are the problems?))

          The smart one will wait, and the tank will take root. And this is good. It will be easier to breathe
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 24 2021 07: 21
            0
            Quote: Silvestr
            The smart one will wait, and the tank will take root. And this is good. It will be easier to breathe

            Well, that's how God willing. Are you doing well? Are the children healthy?))
            1. New Year day
              New Year day April 24 2021 07: 42
              0
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Are you doing well? Children

              Everything is cool!
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard April 24 2021 07: 43
                0
                Quote: Silvestr
                Everything is cool!

                then hurt yourself!)))
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 25 2021 00: 00
          +3
          Quote: Tank Hard
          graft yourself with a "pfizer", what are the problems?))

          What I do not get vaccinated and I wish you that
  3. Overlock
    Overlock April 23 2021 10: 13
    +16
    Caring for citizens is not included in the plans of the European Union

    The author is disingenuous! Quite the opposite is the case. Already 20 countries have stopped using the drug from AstraZeneca: some of them have completely stopped supplies. According to the latest data, we are talking about Austria, Bulgaria, Germany, Denmark, Ireland, Iceland, Spain, Italy, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, France, Sweden, Estonia. Since the Russian vaccines have not passed the WHO certification, for the same reason its supplies to the EU have been stopped.

    On March 15, four European countries - Germany, France, Italy and Spain - announced a temporary suspension of vaccination against coronavirus using a drug from the British-Swedish company AstraZeneca. ALL vaccines are "raw", many complications and deaths. It's just that some declare this, while others are silent. Our vaccine is no exception.
    Even ONISCHENKO, well-known to all, was not grafted by Sputnik - probably knows something?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 23 2021 10: 15
      +1
      Quote: Overlock
      The author is disingenuous! Quite the opposite is the case.

      This is not slyness, this is propaganda.
      1. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 10: 25
        -6
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Overlock
        The author is disingenuous! Quite the opposite is the case.

        This is not slyness, this is propaganda.

        Well, what kind of propaganda? Why so categorically? I agree with Sergey - slyness, partly a substitution of concepts hi
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 23 2021 10: 49
          +14
          Quote: Andrey Korotkov
          craftiness

          The process looks something like this ...
      2. tatiana korzhenko
        tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 10: 53
        +5
        She is the most. Most likely she is quite effective, but political games played a bad joke with her. We wanted to be the very first, announced their registration before the completion of the tests in accordance with international protocols, then it turned out that there was simply nowhere to do it in large volumes, they became to beg everyone who can organize a "joint production", then it turned out that a very large part of the test materials were not provided, and then there was also a scandal with Slovakia, when Russia was accused of the fact that the supplied vaccine was not the one advertised. Naturally, all this causes mistrust and suspicion. By the way, at first they tried to moan at any Pfizer, now they simply keep a deathly silence about it, because there is nothing to say - in fact it turned out to be the most successful, although this is the first mRNA-based vaccine launched into wide production. logistics are more difficult due to the need to store at low temperatures, but for developed countries this is a completely surmountable problem ema In Israel, about 70% are already vaccinated with Pfizer and the results are obvious - a very sharp decrease in the incidence, especially of severe cases, the removal of most restrictions, while there were no serious complications, not to mention deaths.
        1. tatiana korzhenko
          tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 13: 32
          -1
          Amendment - 70% of the adult population.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 16: 35
            0
            Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko
            Amendment - 70% of the adult population.

            Didn't understand that 70%?
            1. tatiana korzhenko
              tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 19: 20
              0
              70% of the ADULT population is vaccinated (that is, not counting children under 16 years of age).
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 19: 22
                -2
                Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko
                70% of the ADULT population is vaccinated (that is, not counting children under 16 years of age).

                Personally, I don't know anyone vaccinated. Not here, but far away there ...
                1. tatiana korzhenko
                  tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 20: 18
                  -1
                  I'm talking about Israel. In Russia, of course, the number of vaccinated people is incomparable.
        2. bk0010
          bk0010 April 24 2021 14: 52
          0
          Quote: Tatiana Korzhenko
          Most likely it is quite effective.
          The question is not in efficiency, but in what it will bring, in addition to immunity.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 25 2021 00: 02
            +3
            Quote: bk0010
            The question is not in efficiency, but in what it will bring, in addition to immunity.

            Especially in terms of future childbearing
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 23 2021 10: 22
      0
      You do not confuse the consequences of the scandal and claims payments with care)))) Onishchenko can do anything. If my memory serves me, he is generally against vaccinations. But this is a lichrop business
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 23 2021 10: 50
        +12
        Quote: carstorm 11
        If my memory serves me, he is generally against vaccinations.

        Cheats on your memory, did
    3. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze April 23 2021 10: 35
      0
      The author is disingenuous! Quite the opposite is the case. Already 20 countries have stopped using the drug from AstraZeneca:


      Yes you are right. They stopped the English Astra and the American Jansen. Vector vaccines (including Sputnik) have more side effects (thrombosis and death from them) than from mRNA vaccines. And the EU is switching only to such vaccines.

      And if the EU stopped the British and American vector vaccines, it is unrealistic that at this moment they let in the same Russian one.

      Personally, I made myself an Astra Zeneca because I wanted to. But now we have Pfizer and Moderna in bulk and we are not talking about a shortage of vaccines. If you want to drink them or smoke them ...

      By the way ... about the price. Astra costs under 2 euros. Official prices leaked from the European Commission. And this is close to two times cheaper than Sputnik.

      "AstraZeneca" struva 1,78 euros, for "Johnson & Johnson" - 8,50 dollars, for "Sanofi" - 7,56 euros, for "Pfizer" - 12 euros, for "CureVac" - 10 euros, and for " Moderna "- 18 dollars,
      1. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 10: 54
        -2
        We are glad for you, if you have a bulk share with other countries or you have a shaft in your pocket? open the borders, otherwise they made a skidon for Rwanda, skepticism in Russian yes
        1. Barberry25
          Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 26
          +3
          laughing and they do it for free in Russia)
          1. Andrey Korotkov
            Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 11: 39
            0
            Quote: Barberry25
            laughing and they do it for free in Russia)

            He's a user, with all the consequences
          2. Overlock
            Overlock April 25 2021 00: 04
            +6
            Quote: Barberry25
            and they do it for free in Russia)

            voluntarily and compulsorily and still take a receipt - "I have no complaints"
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 April 25 2021 02: 09
              0
              wink Well, you know better in Ukraine .. by the way, what is there for the principle of "pharmaceutical companies are not responsible for the side effects of the vaccine" .. what was introduced in the US and the EU? Or is it something else?
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard April 24 2021 06: 48
        0
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Vector vaccines (including Sputnik) have more side effects (thrombosis and death from them)

        share your personal experience, write after thrombosis?))
    4. sheet
      sheet April 23 2021 10: 46
      +1
      Quote: Overlock

      Already 20 countries have stopped using the drug from AstraZeneca: some of them have completely stopped supplies. According to the latest data, we are talking about Austria, Bulgaria, Germany, Denmark, Ireland, Iceland, Spain, Italy, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, France, Sweden, Es

      Sweden? Three haha. They Renamed it!
      https://www.lakemedelsverket.se/sv/nyheter/astra-zenecas-vaccin-byter-namn-till-vaxzevria
      Old people are vaccinated and praised by her. The young people have been suspended for now.
      https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/astra-zeneca-stoppas-for-yngre-okej-att-det-blir-ett-annat-vaccin-nasta-dos
  4. Basarev
    Basarev April 23 2021 10: 13
    -7
    Again the propaganda of this boiled wrap on the knee.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 23 2021 10: 24
      +3
      I don’t like it, don’t eat) my all are grafted and I’m fine.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 23 2021 10: 51
        +13
        Quote: carstorm 11
        I don’t like it, don’t eat) my all are grafted and I’m fine.

        Be healthy! The number of experimental rabbits has increased
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 23 2021 11: 06
          +2
          How does that concern you personally?) Take care of your health and we do ours) there are more than 8 million rabbits in the Russian Federation alone. I'm embarrassed to ask who you are) and the subjects live in 404) they are testing a new method - what will happen if nothing is done in principle)
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 41
            +3
            it's funny about rabbits .. especially considering that in Ukraine they want to inject medicine for animals ..
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 24 2021 23: 41
              +4
              Quote: Barberry25
              about rabbits funny .. especially considering that in Ukraine they want to inject medicine for animals.

              So Ginzburg decided to vaccinate the animals with the same vaccine. And what difference does it make who is the first to be vaccinated - a bull or a human? -The main thing is that both will receive the same drug
              1. Barberry25
                Barberry25 April 25 2021 02: 08
                0
                laughing maybe it’s not worth confusing the cause and effect? ​​or .. “don’t you dare to offend Ridna Ukraine” ..?
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 23 2021 20: 16
            -3
            Quote: carstorm 11
            and we own) rabbits in the Russian Federation alone are more than 8 million people.

            If a drug is administered without the necessary clinical trials and without WHO certification, then who are the test subjects? - Rabbits and mice. Why be offended.
            Quote: carstorm 11
            test subjects live in 404) they test the new method

            Why are you better than 404? laughing
          3. Overlock
            Overlock April 24 2021 23: 41
            +5
            Quote: carstorm 11
            there are more than 8 million rabbits in the Russian Federation alone.

            Much more
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 24 2021 06: 50
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          The number of experimental rabbits has increased

          self-critical!))
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 24 2021 23: 39
            +6
            Quote: Tank Hard
            Quote: Overlock
            The number of experimental rabbits has increased

            self-critical!))

            I noticed for a long time that you have a tension with the logic - there are no vitamins, it's spring. I do not participate in experiments, I prefer to look at rabbits from the side. So the rabbit is you, congratulations
    2. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 10: 31
      +7
      Quote: Basarev
      Again the propaganda of this boiled wrap on the knee.

      I put you a minus, you can find out what your opinion is based on?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 23 2021 14: 33
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Korotkov
        you can find out what your opinion is based on?

        Common sense. Of course, the coronavirus is not a pleasant infection, but for most it is not fatal. And the vaccine was actually created in a short time, and did not go through all the stages of testing. Ginzburg was directly asked how the vaccine affects fertility, he replied that this has not yet been studied.
        If you want to inject yourself, inject, just do not need to impose it on everyone, claiming that it is absolutely safe. There is no data on the long-term effect of the vaccine.
        About 700 people work at my enterprise, about 30 agreed to be vaccinated. The rest wrote a refusal. hi
        1. Andrey Korotkov
          Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 14: 46
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Andrey Korotkov
          you can find out what your opinion is based on?

          Common sense. Of course, the coronavirus is not a pleasant infection, but for most it is not fatal. And the vaccine was actually created in a short time, and did not go through all the stages of testing. Ginzburg was directly asked how the vaccine affects fertility, he replied that this has not yet been studied.
          If you want to inject yourself, inject, just do not need to impose it on everyone, claiming that it is absolutely safe. There is no data on the long-term effect of the vaccine.
          About 700 people work at my enterprise, about 30 agreed to be vaccinated. The rest wrote a refusal. hi

          Good, I heard you, I can recognize the region? I will answer
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 23 2021 15: 00
            0
            Togliatti, Samara region.
            1. Andrey Korotkov
              Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 15: 11
              +4
              I live Balashikha MO, you are still against vaccinating?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 23 2021 16: 10
                +2
                So yes, against. Why do you need a binding to the region?
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 16: 38
                +2
                Quote: Andrey Korotkov
                I live Balashikha MO, you are still against vaccinating?

                I am still against vaccination. And my sister is against it. And the wife of a friend is against it. All are doctors.
                1. Andrey Korotkov
                  Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 17: 03
                  +3
                  Vladimir, a friend's wife, your sister, no offense, junior medical staff, I will add ..
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 17: 16
                    +2
                    Quote: Andrey Korotkov
                    no offense junior medical staff, I will add ..

                    Go ahead. All junior personnel are fighting off the vaccine with their hands and feet.
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        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 24 2021 06: 55
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          If you want to inject yourself, inject, just do not need to impose it on everyone, claiming that it is absolutely safe.

          This is a personal decision of the individual. I vaccinated myself, my mother made herself (born 1951). We made the first Sputnik on Wednesday. It's okay for now. There, no one will prick you until you sign your consent. So. what to decide for everyone personally. For example, in Israel, they were among the first to take root in significant quantities without much noise.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 24 2021 08: 16
            +2
            Quote: Tank Hard
            No one will prick you there until you sign your consent.

            Daniel is wrong. We are strongly recommended at work, otherwise they are forced to write a motivated refusal. The ex-wife at work (budget) unequivocally hints that there is no way without vaccination if you want to work.
            So there is coercion.
            And how to get vaccinated with a vaccine, without any long-term research?
            How did you come to this decision personally?
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard April 24 2021 11: 33
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              How did you come to this decision personally?

              I supported my mother. Many die ... Moreover, many acquaintances have already received 2 vaccinations and everything is fine. In short, he was vaccinated and despite the wishes of various "Sylvesters" is still alive.))
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 24 2021 11: 42
                +2
                Mostly the elderly die, with a trailer in the form of diabetes and oncology. Catch me, the main principle of the doctor is to do no harm, and now, according to the vaccine, this side is covered with darkness.
                And Sylvester is an experienced Soviet-trained doctor, honest and with critical thinking. By the way, now he helped me a lot with advice and recommendations. Unfortunately, there are few of them. hi
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard April 24 2021 11: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  And Sylvester is an experienced Soviet-trained doctor, honest and with critical thinking.

                  I don't know for sure, but I know for sure. that an individual who wishes death to others evil and sincerely, necessarily receives a reward. To him and will return.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 April 24 2021 11: 48
                    -1
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    I don't know for sure

                    I know my daughter is in hospital with TBI.
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard April 24 2021 11: 50
                      0
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      daughter in hospital, with TBI.

                      I wish you good luck and recovery. It was, I know.
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 April 24 2021 11: 57
                        -1
                        Thank you. And forgiveness - life will put everything in its place. I also believe in the effect of retribution. In the higher spheres they will figure out who to punish and whom to encourage.
                      2. Tank hard
                        Tank hard April 24 2021 11: 59
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        I also believe in the effect of retribution.

                        I even saw it more than once. To each his own.
  5. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish April 24 2021 19: 45
    0
    Vector vaccines are very recent. I personally heard that they caused thrombosis in some pensioners. A blood clot in the leg was formed after vaccination. Any pill has a lot of contraindications. And here is a two-part vector vaccine.
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 23 2021 10: 13
    0
    The disease is terrible, I was apparently saved by injections of Dexamethasone, but it was not in pharmacies from November to February at all
    1. Overlock
      Overlock April 23 2021 10: 18
      +10
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      I was apparently saved by the Dexamethasone punches

      I thought - doctors
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 23 2021 10: 25
        -2
        Doctors came and left the names of medicines already printed on paper.
        WHO went to the hospital, I think I had less chances to survive
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 23 2021 11: 10
          +1
          Don't talk nonsense, huh? I personally put my mother in a regular hospital. I talked to doctors all the time. She was provided with everything, down to slippers.
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 23 2021 11: 15
            -4
            Lucky, and many abkakanny and crap lie for a long time
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 April 23 2021 11: 18
              +1
              Lies. What a wretched thing. 10 is an ordinary hospital in the usual city of Khabsrovsk. Who you have pissed there I lie without a clue. Her doctor even called me herself. And that was the month of November. The peak is in our city.
              1. Holuay T.O
                Holuay T.O April 23 2021 11: 22
                -3
                It feels like you were rooting for me, be responsible for yourself
                In hospitals, it is necessary for everyone who is not able to brush their teeth constantly, viruses accumulate there, wash, wash in time, change clothes ... Something was not done everywhere
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 April 23 2021 11: 54
                  +3
                  No question) in which hospital did you stay? In what city? I think on the forums those who lay there with you will be in solidarity and we will read it)
                  1. Holuay T.O
                    Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 08
                    -2
                    I will not voice it, I do not hold grudges against doctors, and against sisters and nurses, a lot of them also died, my family helped me to get out and Dexamethasone
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 April 23 2021 12: 21
                      0
                      I didn't even doubt it)))
                  2. Holuay T.O
                    Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 15
                    -2
                    Moreover, in my clinic, the doctor died from the ambulance, his colleagues gave him another diagnosis, his daughter Vkontakte wrote about it
                    And in November, all our hospitals were packed, ambulances did not arrive, there was not enough of them for everyone, there were photos of corpses lying in the basement ...
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 April 23 2021 12: 25
                      +4
                      Well, of course) in your secret hospital in the secret city, everything happened.
                      1. Holuay T.O
                        Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 47
                        -3
                        Yes to the link freak

                        https://www.currenttime.tv/a/samara-70-years-doctor-died-of-covid/30968574.html
                      2. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 April 23 2021 13: 53
                        +1
                        I know this story. As well as the fact that it was checked. At a very serious level. I'm talking about the corpses in the basements. Or do you have morgues in hospitals only on the upper floors? Or do you like it better when kaa in Italy or the states of corpse vehicles are on the streets? We had a peak at the same time. Bunks were added. Ambulances were driving. Not without objective difficulties, but everything was done. What is the horror of your story? That the doctor died?
                      3. Holuay T.O
                        Holuay T.O April 23 2021 14: 05
                        -4
                        You are a strange dude, you know everything living in Khabarovsk, some kind of shny
                        The link was not given again everything is ok
                      4. Holuay T.O
                        Holuay T.O April 23 2021 14: 11
                        -3
                        Again, describe something, like all lies, there is no smoke without fire
                        https://vk.com/wall-42949290_6465797
                      5. Holuay T.O
                        Holuay T.O April 23 2021 14: 13
                        -3
                        When you get sick, you change the record at a time
                      6. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 April 23 2021 14: 31
                        +2
                        First, I replied that I knew this story. And I do not blame you that it was not. And he clarified what he said about the corpses in the basements. There are usually morgues. And since people in hospitals are dying, is it strange that they are being taken there? Secondly, I am vaccinated. We have had a quiet life in our city for a long time and everything works. My wife and children go on vacation. It's hot outside. We take a walk and rest. Usual life. Thirdly, my daughter is in Moscow, the eldest lives with his ex-wife. And my current wife is a doctor. There is where to get information. And I did not say that I know everything. And he pointed out that my mother was in an ordinary hospital in an ordinary city and she was provided with everything there. That in November 400 people fell ill and now less than 30 per day. And if you believe all the horror stories, then such a dynamics is probably God's providence and not the work of the health care system?
                      7. Holuay T.O
                        Holuay T.O April 23 2021 14: 46
                        -4
                        It was even worse in Samara, and now she is in the lead, moreover, when all the hospitals were clogged, only extremely difficult ones were admitted, our doctors were sent to Irkutsk for some reason ...
                  3. Holuay T.O
                    Holuay T.O April 23 2021 14: 16
                    -4
                    I did not write about horror, it seems to you horror, snooping through the comments
      2. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 11: 33
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Lies. What a wretched thing. 10 is an ordinary hospital in the usual city of Khabsrovsk. Who you have pissed there I lie without a clue. Her doctor even called me herself. And that was the month of November. The peak is in our city.

        hi Dmitry friend, do not feed this shape-shifter with your comments yes
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 23 2021 11: 56
          +1
          Yes, they just got it) in our country in November-December, 400 people were identified a day. Today it does not reach 30. Apparently this is in itself if listening to them happened
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            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 April 23 2021 14: 56
              0
              This is what and about what now?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 16: 20
                -5
                Quote: carstorm 11
                This is what and about what now?

                I mean, your wife is a doctor. Or did she go out for a walk? Is it better not to treat the sick, but to go to all sorts of symposia in Germany?
              2. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 April 24 2021 02: 05
                +3
                And again, what do you want to say by that?) Can a stomt first start with claims if there are any? Doctor. So what? The question is what?
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 23 2021 14: 38
      0
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Lies

      It's not a lie about printed recipes. And abkakanye and described for several hours lay in the emergency room, waiting in line for hospitalization.
      The wards are cleaner, but there really weren't enough doctors at peak times, and this despite the fact that doctors were on duty for almost days. Thanks to Putin for the optimization. negative
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 23 2021 11: 27
    -3
    Yes, and in hospitals, people often died from an additional disease caught there, they bring everyone, they will bring one, for example, with polysegmental pneumonia, and his neighbor will infect a microbial and a scribe
  • Andrey Korotkov
    Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 11: 47
    +4
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    Doctors came and left the names of medicines already printed on paper.
    WHO went to the hospital, I think I had less chances to survive

    Dexamezaton chose himself? Apparently, according to blood tests, the guy did not die
    1. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 01
      -3
      He dastal 200 km from the city, not immediately, after drinking two types of antibiotics for 10 days
      Injecting Dexamethasone was prescribed in the morning at once 5 ampoules at lunchtime 3 ampoules
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 April 24 2021 14: 59
        0
        Quote: Holuay T.O.
        after two types of antibiotics have been drunk
        What's the point? The virus is not alive, you cannot take it with antibiotics.
        1. Holuay T.O
          Holuay T.O April 24 2021 15: 06
          0
          There, it is not so much a virus that is dangerous, but how many bacteria can join, antibiotics fight off attacks of bacteria, people either do not know about it or they dull, sweat and die, stupidly believing that they have one virus
    2. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 03
      -3
      It was also bad from a pill that thinns blood, I forgot the name, I almost died from them, but the doctor said it was necessary, otherwise a blood clot will get into the lung
      1. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 12: 23
        +1
        Dexameron is prescribed for everyone suffering from heart and respiratory diseases, I repeat - if you put on more medical prescriptions, I will answer you yes
        1. Holuay T.O
          Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 26
          -5
          Are you sane? Dexamethasone was even recognized by WHO as the most effective treatment for covid, the search engine is to help the propagandist of crap
          1. Andrey Korotkov
            Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 12: 29
            +4
            Raise your head up, my comment, adyu
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 23 2021 20: 26
            -3
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            Dexamethasone was even recognized by WHO as the most effective treatment for covid

            You will not give a link, healer! laughing How long does it take for Covida to take dexamethasone? What is its dosage?
            1. Holuay T.O
              Holuay T.O April 23 2021 21: 11
              +1


              Here is the doctor personally wrote
        2. Holuay T.O
          Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 27
          -5
          The propaganda is so stupid ... Buy while you have Dexamethasone, maybe it will come in handy ... When you choke
          1. Andrey Korotkov
            Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 12: 36
            +3
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            The propaganda is so stupid ... Buy while you have Dexamethasone, maybe it will come in handy ... When you choke

            Fool, she said .... If you are worried about drugs then: see ukroevroafrotrol drug: Akterma is really made in the USA, you probably don't know medicine
            1. Holuay T.O
              Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 39
              -5
              Dexamethasone really helped me
              I advise, while you doubt ... you will die
              Many died while they were afraid of the side effects of Dexamethasone, the disease is rapid
              1. Andrey Korotkov
                Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 12: 48
                +4
                Quote: Holuay T.O.
                Dexamethasone really helped me
                I advise, while you doubt ... you will die
                Many died while they were afraid of side effects of Dexamethasone, the disease is rapid
                : l aughing:
                Die mutually, I pull beer - not craft, local near Moscow (note to you wink ), Tomorrow I will too
                1. Holuay T.O
                  Holuay T.O April 23 2021 12: 50
                  -5
                  I'm already walking 18 km calmly
                  I'm not afraid to die already, you will die this is not a wish, but real facts about those who, in grave condition, are thinking about side effects ...
                2. Holuay T.O
                  Holuay T.O April 23 2021 13: 18
                  -3
                  Yes, and 100 years of your life! My quote ... Figurative ...)))
                3. Andrey Korotkov
                  Andrey Korotkov April 23 2021 13: 25
                  +2
                  Quote: Holuay T.O.
                  Yes, and 100 years of your life! My quote ... Figurative ...)))

                  Do not libesi
                4. Holuay T.O
                  Holuay T.O April 23 2021 13: 34
                  -4
                  Yes, no, guilt feelings soon, I'm afraid they will not understand correctly
                  I'm sentimental to my shame
                  Yes, and beer at the bottom in Samara is better, Zhigulevskoe live, only at the bottom
          2. kochegar62
            kochegar62 April 23 2021 22: 49
            0
            They said on TV that dexamethasone prevents cytokine (or cytochine chitosan) storms by weakening the immune response. However, not a doctor
            1. Holuay T.O
              Holuay T.O April 23 2021 22: 55
              -2
              I don’t know who is saying what, but only he helped me, I don’t know any other effective drug.
    3. New Year day
      New Year day April 23 2021 20: 24
      0
      Quote: Andrey Korotkov
      Dexameron is prescribed for all cardiac sufferers

      Don't be bullshit! Dexamethasone has NOTHING to do with cardiac pathology. It belongs to the group of synthetic glucocorticosteroids. It has anti-inflammatory, anti-allergic, immunosuppressive, anti-shock effects, is used for replacement therapy with a deficiency of its own glucocorticoids
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 16: 41
    -3
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    from a pill that thinns blood, forgot the name,

    Analgin, e-my ...
    1. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O April 23 2021 16: 52
      0
      No, it costs about 2 thousand
      Analgin knocks down the temperature well
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 16: 54
        -2
        Quote: Holuay T.O.
        No, it costs about 2 thousand

        It's all the same ... And for two thousand ... There is the same garbage ...
        1. minus
          minus April 23 2021 17: 45
          0
          That's for sure)))) Or maybe worse is that for two thousand))))
          PS Ten years ago, at work, the head of the VET gave me advice when she saw me with a cold- *** Be sure to drink otsillococcinum and only it! My husband was ill for a month, what they didn’t lychilis, what antibiotics were prescribed, didn’t help. As soon as they started drinking Oscillococcinum, the next day passed! **** Well, Holuai also has such an analogue of Otsillococcinum))))
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 23 2021 21: 03
            -3
            Dexamethasone relieves edema of the lungs, nasopharynx, relieves inflammation, relief was immediately felt from it
          2. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 23 2021 21: 37
            -3
            Yes, and the doctor said that there were many fatal cases due to the lack of Dexamethasone in pharmacies, who was at home, in hospitals, I do not know if it was available?
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 April 24 2021 12: 00
          0
          It dilutes aspirin, EMNIP :))) But this is not a specific application.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day April 23 2021 20: 27
        -4
        Quote: Holuay T.O.
        No, it costs about 2 thousand

        Xarelto
        1. Holuay T.O
          Holuay T.O April 23 2021 21: 01
          -2
          Remembered-Elekvis
    2. minus
      minus April 23 2021 17: 44
      +2
      Nooo, aspirin probably))))
  • bk0010
    bk0010 April 24 2021 14: 57
    0
    Quote: Overlock
    I thought - doctors
    When I fell ill with the corona, the doctor who came to put a device on my finger for a couple of seconds and gave me a paper on self-isolation to sign. Everything.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth April 23 2021 10: 15
    +1
    And who wants to admit that it didn't go well, they got shit. And you need help from the outside, and even from which side. I made a decision - immediately You are a political corpse. So they make a face at a bad game.
  • Professor
    Professor April 23 2021 10: 19
    -1
    Vaccine non grata: why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union

    Because the trials of this first vaccine in the world raise many questions. certification even more. There are no other reasons and there is no need to pull the owl over the globe.

    The success of the Russian Federation in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic is difficult not to recognize

    The author burns. Excess mortality of Russians in 2020 - 328 thousands... Success? fool

    I don't read the article further. negative
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 23 2021 10: 24
      +5
      And who are these questions?) Argentina has recently experienced it itself. You can find the results yourself)
    2. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 23 2021 10: 24
      +7
      the first in the world

      And it was not the first to be officially registered? How are you getting bogged down by Russia?
      https://ria.ru/20210321/slovakiya-1602237271.html - Это "сова на глобусе"?
      1. Professor
        Professor April 23 2021 10: 29
        -6
        Quote: Okolotochny
        the first in the world

        And it was not the first to be officially registered? How are you getting bogged down by Russia?
        https://ria.ru/20210321/slovakiya-1602237271.html - Это "сова на глобусе"?

        In a hurry, you will make people laugh. The results of the clinical trials were registered and retrospectively started to adjust. And then you are surprised that no one except Africa wants to use your vaccine. Israel has purchased several thousand portions of your vaccine, they barely found where to shove it. Fortunately, fylystyntsy are illegible and happy with freebies.

        Quote: carstorm 11
        And who are these questions?) Argentina has recently experienced it itself. You can find the results yourself)

        There are no vaccines with a 100% guarantee, and therefore the Argentine leader fell ill after being vaccinated with Sputnik. I only agree that this is anti-advertising to Sputnik, as if Putin had not been grafted into it.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny April 23 2021 10: 57
          -1
          The results of the clinical trials were registered and retrospectively started to adjust. And then you are surprised that no one except Africa wants to use your vaccine.

          Do you read any information besides rumors from SNN? Specifically, how many people have died after being vaccinated with Sputnik? Compare with British-Swedish? How many countries have refused or suspended its use? Huh? According to the President of Argentina - for specialists of "everything in the world" (like you, it's strange how you haven't been chosen to replace BB yet?) They explained that Sputnik, in the worst case scenario, avoids severe forms and deaths. By the way, the President of Argentina thanked Russia for supplying the vaccine after his illness. I think he has more information than the Israeli "Professor"?
          1. Professor
            Professor April 23 2021 11: 06
            -3
            Quote: Okolotochny
            I think he has more information than the Israeli "Professor"?

            And you do not think, but teach materiel. For example, real-time vaccination in Israel:
            https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general
            vaccinated 5,374,276 people, accounting for 57.79%.

            Now about the world's first vaccine Sputnik.
            Has the President of the Russian Federation been grafted?
            Prime Minister of the Russian Federation took root?
            Has the Minister of Health of the Russian Federation taken root?
            Was the chief sanitary doctor of the Russian Federation vaccinated?
            Further more, how many percent of the population of the Russian Federation took root in Sputnik?
            https://www.rbc.ru/society/04/04/2021/600037c69a79474871d660bc

            Do you still have questions? Then I have a question. Have you yourself got vaccinated?
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny April 23 2021 11: 19
              +4
              Has the President of the Russian Federation been grafted?
              Prime Minister of the Russian Federation took root?
              Has the Minister of Health of the Russian Federation taken root?

              Yes, the prime minister was the first, after him the prime minister of Belarus took root. I am very glad (without irony) about the number of vaccinated in Israel.
              You "technically" departed from your "arguments" above. Well, God be with you. The low rates of vaccination in Russia is the main human factor, Russian Perhaps, including my father-in-law, he lives with us. I still can't do it with a traveling nature of work, registration for vaccination is free, including through "State Services". And I didn't get vaccinated, not because of mistrust of the vaccine, I wrote the reasons above. "The roast cock will be on its way," then I think it will make "more active". Many acquaintances have taken root. None died.
              1. Professor
                Professor April 23 2021 11: 27
                -8
                Quote: Okolotochny
                Yes, the prime minister was the first

                Dok-va in the studio. How are the others?

                For example, I took the time and received two vaccinations since I BELIEVE in the Faizer vaccine. And you are not vaccinated. That says it all. The topic is closed.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 April 23 2021 12: 01
                  +1
                  Are you here deciding which topic is closed?) Your impudence is already overstepping all boundaries. Everyone decides for himself what to do. Someone is waiting for it right away. It is not for you to give them advice.
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 10
                  +2
                  Dok-va in the studio. How are the others?

                  Request FSO. If in the West they are used to promoting themselves and staging shows like "I'm a tough guy", then ours is different. Gay parades are an example of this, we do not have.
                  You are not grafted. That says it all. The topic is closed.

                  I explained the reasons to you. I could lie, write Yes, I was grafted, but I didn’t do it. It is understood, Merged.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor April 23 2021 12: 20
                    -1
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Request FSO. If in the West they are used to promoting themselves and staging shows like "I'm a tough guy", then ours is different. Gay parades are an example of this, we do not have.

                    Well, yes, your politicians are not public and do not get publicity from the word "absolutely" and the PRIME MINISTER's inoculation is not shown on TV. And the president is not mentioned in the news at all. laughing

                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    I explained the reasons to you. I could lie, write Yes, I was grafted, but I didn’t do it. It is understood, Merged.

                    Again. I discuss "usefulness" with people who have been grafted into it, not with "theorists". You had time to write 5122 comments, but you didn't find 30 minutes to get the best vaccination in the world. The topic is closed.

                    Respect for honesty. hi
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 30
                      +4
                      We walked through the profile laughing From what year are the comments? The best in the world is what you call it. Even the President did not dare to do this in our country.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor April 23 2021 12: 33
                        -3
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        We walked through the profile laughing From what year are the comments? The best in the world is what you call it. Even the President did not dare to do this in our country.

                        Even the time you spent on today's comments is enough to get a vaccine ...
                      2. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 34
                        +3
                        At work, you know, at the computer.
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          3. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 23 2021 14: 19
            -1
            Duc on TV said that Putin took root?
          4. kochegar62
            kochegar62 April 23 2021 23: 22
            +1
            1.The President of the Russian Federation was vaccinated (the vaccine is unknown). 2. The Prime Minister of the Russian Federation has been ill. 3. The Minister of Health was vaccinated (Sputnik B). According to them (News of TC Russia-24). 4. I don’t know the chief sanitary doctor of the Russian Federation. 5.As of 21.04.21/11,1/20. 17 million were vaccinated. More than XNUMX million doses were produced (I don't remember exactly). XNUMX megapixels were released into civilian circulation. doses All data - Russian TV
          5. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 24 2021 07: 11
            -2
            Quote: Professor
            Then I have a question. Have you yourself got vaccinated?

            And I was vaccinated, and my mother (1951). So far so good. And whoever doesn't like it, let them not buy. Let them be vaccinated with their vaccines. By the way, did Israel create its own, the very best in the world?))
      2. Ka-52
        Ka-52 April 23 2021 11: 03
        +2
        Registered and retrospectively began to customize the results of clinical trials

        again the prokhvessor writes here directly from his alternative universe laughing missed pills again?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 23 2021 14: 51
          +2
          I am not a fan of the Professor, he will not lie, but in terms of corrections in the test reports, he is right, this is a fact. Search on Google, everything is there.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 24 2021 07: 13
            -1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Professor, he won't let you lie

            Well, I remember my grandfathers - sappers))
    3. Overlock
      Overlock April 23 2021 10: 56
      +12
      Quote: Okolotochny
      And it was not the first to be officially registered? How are you getting bogged down by Russia?

      The first does not mean the best. Health is not a sport.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny April 23 2021 11: 05
        +5
        The first does not mean the best.

        How do you define "the best"? "Best" in relation to whom? And where did Russia say that Sputnik is the "Best"? You put the owl on the globe together with "The Professor of Everything in the World." For certification and political reasons, "Professor of Everything in the World" quietly merged in Israeli.
  • Overlock
    Overlock April 23 2021 10: 55
    +14
    Quote: Professor
    I don't read the article further.

    What's the point? Agitation!
    December 4, 2020 announcing the mass vaccination, the deputy mayor of Moscow, Anastasia Rakova, mentioned that among the volunteers testing Sputnik, more than 270 participants have already become infected with the virus. This is more than three times more than the "third milestone", which was mentioned in the last press release.
    Now there are more than 1 sick people after vaccination in Moscow.
    Scientists doubted the exact numbers, published in the Lancet, and asked the authors of the article under the guidance of Yuri Logunov for the initial data of the clinical trials of Sputnik. However, they did not receive an answer, according to them.
    Read completely: https://health.tut.by/news/medical_news/710911.html?
    No comments!
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 23 2021 11: 12
      +8
      https://health.tut.by/news/medical_news/710911.html?

      Link oppositional Belarusian resource ??? Seriously?
      Why then don't you refer to the FBK video with Navalny, where he says that there is no Sputnik?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 23 2021 11: 28
        +11
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Link oppositional Belarusian resource ??? Seriously?

        Don't want this one, read others:
        1.Sputnik V raised doubts
        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4456903
        2.The Sputnik V vaccine can have many problems.
        https://zen.yandex.ru/media/eurolive/u-vakciny-sputnik-v-mojet-byt-mnojestvo-problem-6054bdebf538db689d42fb75
        3. Sputnik V vaccine: instructions on how to ruin a good business
        https://habr.com/ru/post/528222/
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 06
          +4
          Bravo, Kommersant, Eurolive. I already wrote, let's immediately link to FBK and Lesha Navalny))
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 23 2021 14: 01
            +12
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Bravo, Kommersant, Eurolive. I already wrote, let's immediately link to FBK and Lesha Navalny))

            Then read Izvestia or the Kremlin Bulletin
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 23 2021 20: 29
            -3
            Quote: Okolotochny
            let's immediately link to FBK and Lesha Navalny))

            Or maybe the traffic rules? You don't read anything anyway laughing
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard April 24 2021 11: 40
              0
              Quote: Silvestr
              You don't read anything anyway

              how smart you are, you know everything about everyone. performing in What, Where, When? Under what pseudonym?)))
              1. Liam
                Liam April 24 2021 11: 44
                +1
                Quote: Tank Hard
                Under what pseudonym?)))

                Tank hard
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard April 24 2021 11: 47
                  0
                  Quote: Liam
                  Tank hard

                  AND...?!)))
          3. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 24 2021 07: 42
            +1
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Bravo, Kommersant, Eurolive. I already wrote, let's immediately link to FBK and Lesha Navalny))

            Yes, let them not be vaccinated.)) We already have many friends who are grafted and are still alive. And I was grafted. And this is a personal decision, I am not campaigning for anyone.
    2. Barberry25
      Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 15
      +5
      "Now there are as many as 1 sick!" .. On April 000, both doses in Moscow time were received by 15 people ... Total we are talking about 1% ... and yes ... give a link to the little one ... so yourself)
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 April 23 2021 11: 11
    +2
    Excess death from what?)
    1. Professor
      Professor April 23 2021 11: 29
      -5
      Quote: carstorm 11
      https://health.tut.by/news/medical_news/710911.html

      There are two options here: either from a meteorite fall, or from a pandemic. The meteorite did not seem to fall.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 April 23 2021 12: 05
        +1
        Those. you can not specifically tell about the reasons?) And just adjust the data to fit your beliefs?))) Bravo) apparently you are much smarter than even WHO specialists)))
        1. Professor
          Professor April 23 2021 12: 21
          -1
          Quote: carstorm 11
          Those. you can not specifically tell about the reasons?) And just adjust the data to fit your beliefs?))) Bravo) apparently you are much smarter than even WHO specialists)))

          I wrote above the specific reasons: a meteorite or a pandemic.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day April 23 2021 20: 32
      -4
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Excess death from what?)

      Excess mortality is a temporary increase in mortality in a population compared to expected. Usually caused by external causes such as extreme weather (heat or cold), epidemics and pandemics (such as influenza), famine or war.
      At the end of 2020, Russia was among the main victims of the pandemic. The excess mortality rate per thousand inhabitants turned out to be one of the highest on the planet in our country.... According to this indicator, the Russian Federation is twice as bad as the United States and seven times worse than Germany.
      New data from Rosstat on mortality for 10 months indicate that 1,2 million people have died this year, which is significantly higher than the average for the last five years (1,06 million). It is the amount of excess mortality, taking into account the total population, that is the most correct assessment of the consequences of the epidemic.
  • Barberry25
    Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 11
    +8
    and? all three "best" Euro-American vaccines quickly passed certification and did not raise questions .. until they started injecting .. but for some reason, you only have complaints about Sputnik)
    1. Professor
      Professor April 23 2021 11: 31
      -10%
      Quote: Barberry25
      and? all three "best" Euro-American vaccines quickly passed certification and did not raise questions .. until they started injecting .. but for some reason, you only have complaints about Sputnik)

      You yourself answered the question. "Euro-American vaccines are fast passed certification"
      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 34
        0
        laughing in general, this certification-linden-brought a suitcase of dough and passed it .. And as a competitor came, they immediately began to wet it .. although now they already have a squabble among themselves .. What can Russia do? while political glasses spoil the reputation of European governments
        1. Professor
          Professor April 23 2021 11: 43
          -5
          Not. Here the presumption of innocence and the vaccine manufacturer MUST prove its effectiveness and safety.

          These are stories about medical tourism. Isolated cases do not change the picture. A friend at work has a Russian employee. She alone in the whole company rested that she would only be inoculated with Sputnik. Where can she get this satellite now? So much for a tourist ...
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 53
            +3
            laughing this is called "presumption of guilt" .. And yes, there are already self-propelled vehicles + the first batch of 50 people has already arrived ... so the employee can check the news
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 08
    +2
    The total number of deaths since the start of the pandemic has reached 107.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 23 2021 12: 23
      0
      Quote: Okolotochny
      The total number of deaths since the start of the pandemic has reached 107.

      Registered. excess mortality was at least three times higher. As a rule, the cause of death was written as "not typical pneumonia".
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 27
        +3
        As a rule, the cause of death was written as "not typical pneumonia".

        Not a typical pneumonia in medical certificates is also the coronavirus network. laughing
        Now I will ask you for proof of your words about the number of deaths from coronavirus in Russia. Not? Let's go.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 23 2021 12: 31
          -7
          Quote: Okolotochny
          As a rule, the cause of death was written as "not typical pneumonia".

          Not a typical pneumonia in medical certificates is also the coronavirus network. laughing
          Now I will ask you for proof of your words about the number of deaths from coronavirus in Russia. Not? Let's go.

          https://www.rbc.ru/society/16/12/2020/5fbd65c79a794747f677e904

          https://www.rbc.ru/economics/08/02/2021/602132e19a7947073f7ddeb5

          https://www.forbes.ru/obshchestvo/421261-200-000-propushchennyh-smertey-gde-v-rossii-rezko-vyrosla-smertnost-i

          https://vc.ru/flood/210333-izbytochnaya-smertnost-v-rossii-v-2020-godu-hudshiy-pokazatel-s-1947-goda-rossiya-v-mirovyh-liderah

          https://openmedia.io/investigation/xuzhe-tolko-vo-vremya-goloda-za-2020-god-smertnost-v-rossii-vyrastet-ne-menee-chem-na-15/

          https://meduza.io/feature/2021/02/10/teper-pochti-ofitsialno-rossiya-na-pervom-meste-po-chislu-zhertv-koronavirusa-na-dushu-naseleniya-eto-rezultat-deystviy-vlastey-letom-2020-goda
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 38
            +4
            Professor, do you read only such publications? RBC - Prokhorov's theme, Medusa is still a trash heap. Why don't you cite official publications? Don't believe me? I don't believe that. And openmedia - isn't it Khodorkovsky? I gave you the official mortality data. You give me reasoning from the opposition media. Are you convincing yourself or others?
            1. Professor
              Professor April 23 2021 15: 29
              -4
              Quote: Okolotochny
              Professor, do you read only such publications? RBC - Prokhorov's theme, Medusa is still a trash heap. Why don't you cite official publications? Don't believe me? I don't believe that. And openmedia - isn't it Khodorkovsky? I gave you the official mortality data. You give me reasoning from the opposition media. Are you convincing yourself or others?

              You can't argue with numbers. For example:
              Western experts urged to be very careful about the results obtained on the basis of such a small sample. For comparison, the safety of Oxford vaccine was tested in the second phase of 256 volunteers, BioNTech (Pfizer) recruited six times more participants for the same purpose than Russians (456), and Moderna - eight (600). Moreover, none of the vaccines, except for Sputnik, received registration after the first two stages.
              When the report on the clinical trials of Sputnik (Phase I-II) was published by the authoritative medical journal Lancet, several scientists abroad drew attention to the strange coincidences in the results of the two groups of volunteers and asked the authors for the initial study data. Developers from the Gamaleya Center responded to criticism from foreign colleagues, however the complete clinical protocol was never published
              Read completely: https://health.tut.by/news/medical_news/710911.html?c
        2. New Year day
          New Year day April 23 2021 20: 46
          -3
          Quote: Okolotochny
          Not a typical pneumonia in medical certificates is also the coronavirus network.

          Another connoisseur was found! laughing
          Learn materiel:
          Clinical variants of Covid-19
          ARVI mild
          • Pneumonia without DN
          • Pneumonia with ONE
          • ARDS
          •Sepsis
          • Septic shock
          • Thrombosis
          • Thromboembolism

          Examples of diagnoses:

          U07.1 Mild COVID-19 coronavirus infection Confirmed case (SARS CoV-2 PCRRNA nasopharyngeal smear positive, date).
          U07.1 Moderate coronavirus infection COVID-19 Confirmed case (SARSCoV-2 PCRRNA nasopharyngeal smear and other positive, date) COVID-19 associated pneumonia. CT-2.
          U07.1 Coronavirus infection COVID-19, severe course. Confirmed case (PCR RNA SARS CoV-2 - nasopharyngeal smear, bronchoalveolar lavage, etc. positive, date). COVID-19 associated pneumonia. CT-4.
          U07.1 Coronavirus infection COVID-19, severe course. Confirmed case (SARS CoV-2 RNA PCR nasopharyngeal smear positive, date). COVID-19 associated pneumonia. CT-3. Extrapulmonary manifestations: encephalitis.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 23 2021 10: 25
    -1
    Krasnodar hi You are not muddying up with Sputnik 5 yet, you have some old ideas! good
  • sannyhome
    sannyhome April 23 2021 10: 28
    +3
    why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union

    The answer is simple - money. Local manufacturers want to earn money on their vaccines, and not give money to strangers
  • Shahno
    Shahno April 23 2021 10: 35
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Okolotochny
    the first in the world

    And it was not the first to be officially registered? How are you getting bogged down by Russia?
    https://ria.ru/20210321/slovakiya-1602237271.html - Это "сова на глобусе"?

    In a hurry, you will make people laugh. The results of the clinical trials were registered and retrospectively started to adjust. And then you are surprised that no one except Africa wants to use your vaccine. Israel has purchased several thousand portions of your vaccine, they barely found where to shove it. Fortunately, fylystyntsy are illegible and happy with freebies.

    Quote: carstorm 11
    And who are these questions?) Argentina has recently experienced it itself. You can find the results yourself)

    There are no vaccines with a 100% guarantee, and therefore the Argentine leader fell ill after being vaccinated with Sputnik. I only agree that this is anti-advertising to Sputnik, as if Putin had not been grafted into it.

    You are not very right. And the Russian vaccine and the EU-vaccine are still of equal value, until the opposite is proven .. Let's investigate, we'll see. I hope the "greatness" will not prevent the Russians from learning some of the details.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 23 2021 11: 10
      +3
      No vaccine guarantees NOT to get sick !!! They guarantee, with varying degrees of certainty, that you will not die ... i.e. without serious complications, the disease is mild.
      The rest will be known later, for all vaccines, drugs and treatment methods.
    2. Professor
      Professor April 23 2021 11: 33
      -6
      Quote: Shahno
      You are not very right. And the Russian vaccine and the EU-vaccine are still of equal value, until the opposite is proven .. Let's investigate, we'll see. I hope the "greatness" will not prevent the Russians from learning some of the details.

      Not. Here are the presumptions of innocence and the vaccine manufacturer MUST prove its effectiveness and safety.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 40
        +5
        the vaccine manufacturer MUST prove its effectiveness and safety.

        You will explain this to AstraZeneca))
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 23 2021 12: 25
      +3
      Of course not. We will see the result by autumn. Still, the people would swing. Including me))
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 17: 00
        0
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Still, the people would swing. Including me))

        Don't rock the boat, Lyokha!
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 23 2021 10: 50
    +1
    There is little information on the Chinese vaccine. In Europe, someone is already using it.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 23 2021 11: 04
      +3
      The Turks ... their business is somehow not ah. What is the reason, who is to blame, is not very clear.
  • Semyonich from the Urals
    Semyonich from the Urals April 23 2021 10: 55
    -5
    In fact, apparently no one really wanted to supply it to the European Union .. Just make some noise about the fact that good Russia is saving the world and the evil West does not give it ..
  • Alex66
    Alex66 April 23 2021 10: 56
    -7
    Another article calling for vaccination. Since the Europeans are coming, then we need to. But again, I repeat, the speed of vaccination, the emergence and spread of the virus, unanimously recognized it as especially dangerous, is confusing. This is how the scammers act, not letting the victim come to his senses.
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 April 23 2021 11: 16
      +5
      laughing and you would have followed the topic of vaccines and you would have known that ours, for example, found a cure for Ebola before the Americans ... and in general we have one of the strongest schools in the world in this regard ...
      1. tatiana korzhenko
        tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 12: 06
        +2
        I have to disappoint you - the WHO-recognized Ebola vaccine for today is only one - the American one from Merck, the Russian one has remained experimental.
        1. Barberry25
          Barberry25 April 23 2021 12: 09
          +1
          I am aware ... the only difference is that 2 people vaccinated ours + were stalled at the stage of "obtaining permission" .. so they just sent the vaccine
          1. tatiana korzhenko
            tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 13: 26
            0
            What, they just stalled, out of harm? Probably there were reasons for that.
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 April 23 2021 13: 50
              +2
              And what are the reasons that the Zeneca or Johnsons received certification almost instantly in 3 weeks, and Sputnik has been mutilating for a couple of months in fact?
              1. tatiana korzhenko
                tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 14: 10
                -1
                Yes, I have already written above why such a story with Sputnik came out.
                1. Barberry25
                  Barberry25 April 23 2021 14: 13
                  +1
                  well, I have not seen, + I think there is something in the style of "they themselves are to blame" ... Europeans are saints
              2. Decimalegio
                Decimalegio April 23 2021 15: 11
                +1
                If you want to understand, I'll explain: Johnson's vaccine applied for the EMA on February 17, 2021, and was authorized on March 12, 2021. But the experiment data was provided by all Ema as of December 2020. In short, the data were presented a little at the time before the question of evaluation. What didn't happen with the sputnik vaccine. In addition, one of the conditions for Ema approval is the opportunity to visit the production facilities. It hasn't been possible yet
                1. Barberry25
                  Barberry25 April 23 2021 15: 56
                  -1
                  there is such a thing as legal red tape ... for example, ours filed an application on the 20th of January and the Europeans were bothering for 2 weeks without even confirming the receipt ... .. As a result, the Europeans will promise that on May 20 they will come to see the production facilities .. and without a guarantee that they will come at all .. This is called bureaucracy .. just the same delayed the issue of licenses and permits for Nord Stream-10 .. In fact, that's all it was possible, but did not really want to, because we are talking about hundreds of millions of euros ... the same Germans announced that they are considering the purchase of 2 million doses of vaccine ... and this is 30 million dollars ..
                  1. Decimalegio
                    Decimalegio April 23 2021 16: 21
                    +1
                    As of February 12, 2021, no statement has yet been made.
                    никаких заявлений не подавалось. www.aifa.gov.it/documents/20142/1289823/News_announcement_Sputnik_ITA.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiYiZfHuZTwAhUB_7sIHbvCDc4QFjACegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw2K22K4crDrSdiNGQdGhi8J&cshid=1619183820840
                    1. Decimalegio
                      Decimalegio April 23 2021 16: 29
                      +1
                      On April 10, 2021, EMA officials were in Russia to agree on the procedure. From 17 to 21 May, Ema employees will visit the Yaroslavl plant R pharm to assess compliance with European GMP rules (good manufacturing practices)
                      1. Barberry25
                        Barberry25 April 23 2021 16: 48
                        0
                        let me tell you a little ... Johnson's example .. EMA decided to introduce a sequential approval procedure in December 20th ... at the beginning of February they began to consider the issue of permission .. and the results of the third stage were only at the end of February .. March 11 was already approved ...
                        Sputnik .. submitted an application at the end of January 21st. after which on February 2, the publication of the results of the third phase, the EMA said that it was not considering the issue of issuing a permit .. And only on March 11 they began to examine the results after statements that if there was no approval of the EMA, then the EU members would buy themselves .. and only in mid-April they announced that they could in May they will visit facilities in Russia and may be allowed in the summer .. Moreover, the Europeans say directly that they will give permission when already most of the EU will be vaccinated, i.e. after the main dough section ...
                      2. Decimalegio
                        Decimalegio April 23 2021 18: 21
                        -1
                        The facts are the same, but we read them differently. I see the routine and you are a conspiracy. But I say to you: "put your finger here and look at my hands; reach out your hand and put it in my side; and be no longer an unbeliever, but a believer!" .... the Russian vaccine will be approved. The coronavirus will be there for a long time, and all the vaccines are needed. If not, it doesn't explain why other pharmaceutical companies are still experimenting with vaccines slated for late 2021 early 2022 (Valneva, Reithera, Sanofi et al.
                      3. Barberry25
                        Barberry25 April 23 2021 19: 02
                        0
                        laughing then a simple question ... why did the Johnsons take 3 weeks to agree, and Sputnik 2 months with the initial data? Not to mention the fact that the Johnsons began to prepare before the completion of the 3rd stage, and Sputnik, even after the 3rd stage, spent a whole month until it turned out that other vaccines have side effects?
                    2. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin April 23 2021 18: 33
                      -1
                      Quote: Barberry25
                      Sputnik .. submitted an application at the end of January 21st. after which on February 2nd, the publication of the results of the third phase, the EMA said that it was not considering the issue of issuing a permit.

                      This is not entirely true.
                      https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-sputnik-v-coronavirus-vaccine-eu-ema-approval/
                      March 5, 2021
                      The first data for Sputnik V landed on the European Medicines Agency's desk Thursday - well after the vaccine arrived in several European countries. And take-up of the vaccine in Europe without the agency's rigorous assessment has divided EU countries as well as their governments.
                      Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia have all sought to bypass assessment of the vaccine's safety and efficacy by the EMA, not long after publication of promising data in The Lancet. Sputnik's producer, which has falsely stated since January that it had filed an application for a license with the EMA, has also provided vaccines to contested territories such
                      March 5 2021
                      The first data for Sputnik V arrives on the table of the European Medicines Agency Thursday (March 4) - much later than the vaccine arrived in several European countries. And the use of the vaccine in Europe without a thorough assessment by the agency has divided the EU countries as well as their governments.

                      Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia tried to bypass the EMA vaccine safety and efficacy assessment shortly after promising data were published in The Lancet. Sputnik management, which falsely claimed to have applied for a license to the EMA since January

                      Sputnik doesn't have a problem with the vaccine; it may be better than all the others.
                      But the political component with constant deception did not allow her to enter the European market.
                      On August 11, it was announced that there is a vaccine in Russia and all the time was spent pushing it to Europe, only on March 4, when they realized that it would NOT work, an application was submitted to the EMA. On April 10, EMA representatives left for Russia to check the production sites where the vaccine is produced, the documentation and the quality of the vaccine produced. If all goes well, then in June-July will be given permission to supply to Europe. And many countries will buy it and some will produce it.
                      How many billions of dollars Russia has lost due to a wrong foreign policy
                      WELL THIS IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
                    3. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 23 2021 19: 12
                      0
                      Lol ... "did not hit the table", but began to be considered EMA .. these are different things .. About "the head of the RDIF falsely announced" ... why should he do that? And in fact .. if you read the article, it becomes clear that they started to move after they began to make purchases bypassing the EMA .. And then in the article itself, to the question "why is the Satellite being considered" they swear and swear that they are "specialists and only for the good, but not politics is to blame "... So banal driving over the ears in order to get profit ..
                    4. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin April 23 2021 19: 22
                      -2
                      Quote: Barberry25
                      "did not hit the table", but began to be considered EMA.

                      NOT TO WASTE TIME, I'M IMMEDIATELY TRANSLATED.
                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/03/16/explainer-sputnik-vs-road-to-the-european-market-a73243
                      16 March 2021 city
                      Sputnik V is not yet approved for use in the European Union.
                      The EU Medicines Regulatory Authority, the European Medicines Agency (EMA), earlier this month launched the first stage an approval process known as rolling review. During this process, the regulatory body will review the existing published data on the safety and efficacy of the vaccine and DECIDE whether Russia has enough information to APPLY FOR A PERMISSION.
                      You were simply confused (by accident or on purpose) with terms, replacing one concept with another.
                    5. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 23 2021 19: 54
                      +2
                      laughing It's even easier ... in January, RDIF submitted the documents, but EMA turned them up in the end, they say, like we don't have enough data and we will decide for ourselves ... but now the question ... If Europeans are so worried about Europeans, then why did they actually let 3 vaccines with in fact rigged results, bypassing their own rules, and for some reason, at any mention of Sputnik, they say that "Russia is making politics" .. You heard the ringing, but you misunderstood it .. that what they started looking at in March is in fact the result of a bolt put by several EU countries ... therefore, EMA, which up to that moment IGNORED Sputnik, decided to start checking ... or remind you how the same Denmark at one time delayed until the last day with the issuance of a permit for the construction of Nord Stream-2, and the same Poland with Norway almost instantly issued a permit .. Or say, too, "these are all stupid Russians, they do not know how to submit documents"?
                    6. Decimalegio
                      Decimalegio April 23 2021 20: 52
                      -2
                      you don't want to be a believer. :-) smile smile
                    7. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 23 2021 21: 08
                      +1
                      laughing What does it have to do with believing or not? I just know that Europeans, especially business, will not let anyone else enter their clearing ... and given that they are already gnawing at each other so as not to lose contracts, then the facts are stubborn things
                    8. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin April 23 2021 21: 49
                      -3
                      Quote: Barberry25
                      , then facts are stubborn things

                      16 November 2020,
                      The Kremlin issued a statement saying that Putin and Netanyahu discussed possible cooperation on the Russian vaccine, including supplying it to Israel and even manufacturing it in the Jewish state.
                      Jerusalem hospital orders 1,5 million doses of Russian COVID vaccine
                      The vaccine was purchased, but documentation of the trial was not provided.
                      The vaccine remained unused. Israel has been approached by WHO to provide a vaccine for the Palestinian Authority.
                      Israel provided Palestinians with several hundred doses of vaccine from its national stockpiles, as well as Sputnik V vaccine to the West Bank, and allowed part of that shipment to Gaza. But they refused, but when the epidemic reached a large scale, they agreed to accept on the condition that Rfizer was given to them.
                      For information.
                      Israel has already purchased Rfizer for 2022 and made a pre-order for 2023.
                      The population of Israel is 9,3 million. human.
                      Children aged 0-16 years 2,5 mil. there is no vaccination permit yet.
                      About 0,9 mil.
                      9,3 - 2,5 - 0,9 = 5,9 mils.
                      Received 5,0 mil. out of 5,9 who need vaccination
                      Israel ranks first in the world for vaccinations per capita.
                    9. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 23 2021 22: 04
                      +1
                      laughing yeah, as many as one and a half million doses of the type lay and lay .. By the way .. it’s funny .. a source wrote that the Palestinians asked for pfizer .. and for some reason the Palestinians themselves wrote that they were outraged that Israel blocked supplies to Gaza Sputnik .. you decide. whether they want a vaccine or not)
                    10. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin April 23 2021 23: 28
                      -3
                      Quote: Barberry25
                      whether they want a vaccine or not

                      Yes, they wanted Rfizer and offer them Satellite.,
                    11. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 23 2021 23: 54
                      +1
                      laughing and for some reason they injected themselves with the Sputnik and are happy ...
                    12. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin April 24 2021 15: 14
                      -1
                      Quote: Barberry25
                      and for some reason they injected themselves with the Sputnik and are happy ...

                      Once again.
                      Vaccine Sputnik V can be BETTER everyone else!
                      But the approach itself WE ARE THE BEST works only for you, everyone else needs to submit documentation to check what it really is.
                      And they began to do so, and during this time dollars flowed into other pockets.
                    13. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 24 2021 19: 48
                      -1
                      I wrote above what and how it was ... and the point is not in the documentation, but in the fact that when it took 3 weeks to make a decision on the approval of vaccines from the same USA after the submission, and the approval began BEFORE the completion of the third stage of testing, and the Sputnik froze a whole month in terms of making a decision to start consideration AFTER the third phase, until individual EU countries began to make purchases on their own ... and for some reason, the same Johnsons were checked in 3 weeks, and ours are directly told that they need 3 MONTHS, and in general, probably in September we will give good ... It's about "it's you Russians, you yourself are to blame, but we are Europeans, good and for good" ..
                    14. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin April 24 2021 22: 09
                      -1
                      Quote: Barberry25
                      It's about "you are Russians, you are to blame, but we are Europeans, good and for good" ..

                      If you paid attention, I am operating only with facts, and you are EMOTIONS.
                      And the fact that there is a vaccine in Russia was announced on August 11.
                      By the beginning of December, according to the Russian Minister of Health Mikhail Murashko, a total of more than 100 thousand people had already been vaccinated in the country - despite the fact that that the third phase of clinical trials has not yet been completed.
                      On December 2, Putin ordered to teach vaccination by force 3 stages of verification have not yet been completed.

                      And according to the data, it was completed in January.
                      At the time, the Pfizer clinical trial phase 3 BNT162b2 started on July 27,
                      and ended on November 18, 2020
                      But since each stage was presented to the EMA after its completion, the conclusion was ready in December, and on December 19, Nataniyahu was the first to be vaccinated and vaccination began in Israel.
                      And Russian politicians and officials are looking somewhere to blame, they deceive you and you believe everything.
                    15. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 24 2021 22: 21
                      -1
                      laughing and how is this connected with the pre-order for the same Pfizer ... oh yes ... I gave an example of how the Johnson and Johnson vaccine immediately went through all the licensing procedures right away .. but for some reason they decided to remember about Pfizer and blame the Russians .. I will repeat .. Why was the review of Sputnik postponed for more than 2 months? Why was there just a review for more than a month and "we will see the production" postponed for a whole month? Why the representative of the European regulator explicitly states that he will not provide permits later than mid-summer, while I quote "there will vaccination was carried out, so we are not interested in Sputnik "... And this is without emotion .. This is called the elimination of competitors ... For instead of considering a vaccine, EMA suggests studying" why the vaccine was tested on the military .. and suddenly they are not volunteers, and they were forced "? So stop blaming Russia for the fact that the Europeans are trivially dividing the market ... I gave an example in the form of SP-2 and BalticPipe ..
                    16. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 24 2021 22: 22
                      0
                      and in catching up ... Why, during the "flawless" tests of all three vaccines, did they get a bunch of side effects, including fatal ones, about which for some reason it was not written? By the way ... The other day the plant of the same Johnson and Johnson was closed. .because a sudden check showed that they worked with a complete violation of the dignity. standards ...
                    17. Overlock
                      Overlock April 24 2021 23: 35
                      +8
                      Quote: Barberry25
                      Why, during the "flawless" tests of all three vaccines, did they get a bunch of side effects, including fatal ones, about which for some reason it was not written?

                      Right now there is a lot of information on this fact and many countries, incl. and the USA, have stopped vaccination! A tricky question: why are they silent about the same side effects in Russia? Or have they created the PERFECT vaccine, which, in principle, cannot be?
                    18. bk0010
                      bk0010 April 25 2021 00: 56
                      0
                      Quote: Overlock
                      A tricky question: why are they silent about the same side effects in Russia? Or have they created the PERFECT vaccine, which, in principle, cannot be?
                      And not the fact that such side effects are (or are visible). The vaccine is not ideal, but the simplest, so vaccines have been made several times before (some covid proteins have been attached to the adenovirus, which the immune system is trained on), so there may not be any surprises. But there may be: the vaccine is still new.
                    19. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 25 2021 02: 06
                      0
                      laughing yeah, after a heap of cases with complications .. but for some reason the question at 3 stages of testing did not arise .. from a word in general .. And about "and side effects in Russia" .. well, tell me .. what side effects does Sputnik have .. Oh yes, the main thing is not to figure it out, but to spit on Russia ... that's the whole point ..
  • Barberry25
    Barberry25 April 23 2021 16: 30
    -1
    Something you have a left article ... When was the article? On February 2nd .. and when did the EU wake up? and the statement was back in January .. and what is the EMA? right, in early April they just said that they would think about this question. . and why? but because there is a time frame during which they must consider .. so they waited and decided at the very end to answer
  • Alex66
    Alex66 April 23 2021 12: 53
    0
    I know about the Ebola vaccine. But I am confused by the "kindness" of the government and Putin, especially after the pension reform and other gifts. We have paid masks, but they sell the vaccine for nothing in supermarkets.
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 April 23 2021 12: 55
      +2
      1) the state bears huge losses, 2) there is a question of prestige ... 3) if the vaccine was paid, then we would not have injected even 1 million people ..
    2. LTMax
      LTMax April 26 2021 11: 25
      -1
      Quote: Alex66
      But I am confused by the "kindness" of the government and Putin, especially after the pension reform and other gifts. We have paid masks, but they sell the vaccine for nothing in supermarkets.


      Don't you be embarrassed smile In fact, everything is quite simple: there are money that is bad and you need to make it so that it is good. For example like this:

      The "daughter" of Sberbank, which was created in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, is promised a new role. The Immunotechnology company can be chosen as a single supplier of vaccines against COVID-19 and, according to experts, in a year it can earn about 7,5 billion rubles on this.

      For such a short period of its existence, the Immunotechnology society managed to act as a supplier for one state contract. On September 11, 2020, the company signed a contract with the Federal State Budgetary Institution “National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology named after. NF Gamalei "of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation - for" logistics services for the transportation of goods (vaccine Gam-COVID-Vac Combined vector vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus infection caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus) ".
      The amount of the contract is 8 rubles, the deadline for execution is December 455, 900.


      FGBU is a budgetary organization. Consequently, denyuzhka will smoothly and legally flow from the state pocket to the private one.
  • Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad April 23 2021 10: 57
    +2
    We in Riga announced last week that there is a batch of astrazeneks with an expiration date, who wants to be vaccinated, come ... for half a day it ended.
    Watch:
    https://jauns.lv/raksts/zinas/438586-riga-milziga-rinda-pie-vakcinacijas-centra-vakcinacija-sakusies-pirms-noteikta-darba-laika

    Vaccination process in Europe BRAKED BY THE AUTHORITIES CONSCIOUSLY!
    Vaccines promise, but do not give, throw away little by little.

    The global authorities are interested in the continuation of the state of closed borders, limiting the mobility of people and limiting their direct interaction.
    This is how conditions are artificially created when people are forced to interact with each other only through centralized digital systems on the Internet, which the authorities completely control.
    Then the ban on cash, full control of human activities and relationships between people.
    The authorities are using this pandemic to speed up the transition of society from "free" capitalism to digital totalitarianism.
    1. K-50
      K-50 April 23 2021 11: 05
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Grad
      We in Riga announced last week that there is a batch of astrazeneks with an expiration date, who wants to be vaccinated, come ... for half a day it ended.

      Come to St. Petersburg for excursions. For one and graft. And cheaper, and better quality, and does not depend on the decision of politicians. yes
      1. Andrey Grad
        Andrey Grad April 23 2021 11: 11
        +3
        We would love to, but how? Thousands of Russians in the Baltics want to be vaccinated with a satellite, but they do not let anyone in the Russian Federation except citizens of the Russian Federation, they do not give tourist visas, people pay for commercial visas of 500-700 euros and do not get everything. Even at the invitation of medical clinics for treatment, if the invitation is not registered in the database of border guards, they are not allowed to cross the border into the Russian Federation.
        1. K-50
          K-50 April 23 2021 11: 31
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Grad
          We would love to, but how? Thousands of Russians in the Baltics want to be vaccinated by a satellite, but they do not let anyone in the Russian Federation except citizens of the Russian Federation, they do not give tourist visas,

          Just indicate what to vaccinate. If people come to Russia for other medical purposes, as it is cheaper, and medical personnel with high qualifications, then I think they should be allowed to get vaccinated in Russia. IMHO.
          1. Andrey Grad
            Andrey Grad April 23 2021 11: 53
            +4
            An acquaintance was taking the child from Riga to St. Petersburg for an operation, there was an invitation from the clinic. They were not allowed to enter the Russian border, they said that the invitation was not registered in their database.
            Not so simple.
          2. Andrey Grad
            Andrey Grad April 23 2021 12: 44
            +3
            And the disadvantages are put by those Russians who do not want us to come to the Russian Federation for vaccination, do I understand correctly?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 19: 16
              -3
              Quote: Andrey Grad
              And the disadvantages are put by those Russians who do not want us to come to the Russian Federation for vaccination, do I understand correctly?

              I'm Russian. I did not put a minus. And I don't want to get vaccinated, like wearing muzzles.
        2. Barberry25
          Barberry25 April 23 2021 12: 10
          -2
          strange "Russians" who do not have Russian citizenship ..
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 April 23 2021 15: 52
            +2
            I'm embarrassed to ask, but in 14 years did many Russians in Donbass have Russian citizenship?
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 April 23 2021 16: 04
              -1
              30 years after the collapse of the USSR? This position "we are Russians in the Baltics and they are offending us!" ... so-so position, those who offend and oppress, have long gone to Russia .. And those who stayed, they like to live in the EU .. but if something is always convenient feel sorry for myself "I am Russian, I was offended"
              1. Andrey Grad
                Andrey Grad April 23 2021 17: 46
                +4
                We are indigenous Baltic Russians living here for 300 years, why should we leave our native land?
                The Baltics are mostly originally Russian land, with the majority of the Russian population. For example, in Riga we are Russians more than half of the population.
                The mistake of the Russians from the Russian Federation is, thanks to propaganda, to divide their people living on different sides of the modern border of the Russian Federation.
                In White Russia, on the outskirts, in the Baltics live the same RUSSIANS as in the Russian Federation. Propaganda divided us.
                As soon as you understand that it is not THEY who live there in Minsk, Kiev, Riga, but the same Russians live there like WE in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Krasnodar, in fact relatives, brothers, sisters, so the perception of any related events will immediately change.
                We did not leave Russia anywhere, it was Russia that retreated to the east, first in 1917, then in 1991.
                Riga 1916
                1. Barberry25
                  Barberry25 April 23 2021 19: 00
                  -3
                  yes yes yes .. you were offended and now Russia owes you a beautiful policy .. especially remembering that the "most Russian" for some reason were in no hurry to serve in the army of Russia .. and then suddenly they will be sent to the Caucasus, and there is a war ..
                  1. Andrey Grad
                    Andrey Grad April 24 2021 11: 17
                    0
                    A victim of EG education?
                    My great-grandfather served on a ship in the Crimea under the tsar, and my grandfather reached Dresden during the war.
                    You seem to be from the oval propaganda sect of the offended.
                    1. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 24 2021 11: 46
                      -1
                      "great-grandfather and grandfather" .. and you got to do with?
                      1. Andrey Grad
                        Andrey Grad April 24 2021 12: 23
                        -1
                        Chechen companies were in the 90s, when the Baltic States were already occupied and separated by borders from the Russian Federation, how could we from the Baltic States serve in the Russian army without being citizens of the Russian Federation? Go learn the latest history, so as not to write nonsense.
                      2. Barberry25
                        Barberry25 April 24 2021 19: 45
                        -1
                        How ... to move, to obtain citizenship, for example ... And it turns out that you are "the most Russian", but for the sake of Russia they did not put a finger on your finger ..
                      3. Andrey Grad
                        Andrey Grad April 24 2021 23: 13
                        +2
                        It is people like you, the traitors, who voted for the traitor-Yelkin, who betrayed all the Russians in the republics, gave the Russian people to be torn apart by the local Nazis, led by Western intelligence services. It is because of you lovers of Western democracy that millions of Russians in the republics have been discriminated against, have lost their jobs, housing, civil rights, education and Russian culture.
                        Yes, it is because of you that Russians are now dying in the Donbass, they are being held in prisons in the Baltic states. You are even afraid to admit this to yourself now and call us not RUSSIAN, but Russian-speaking, that is, some incomprehensible nationality, in no way connected with RUSSIANS.
                        But in spite of the Nazis and you traitorous vyrus, we are not going to flee from our native Baltic land. Our fathers and grandfathers freed her, rebuilt her, and we will survive and defend.
                        Riga 09.05.2019
                      4. Barberry25
                        Barberry25 April 25 2021 02: 04
                        0
                        that's what I'm talking about ... how you start talking ... so "the most Russians", but how the question of defending Russia arose ... so neither citizenship nor in the army did they serve, only accusations that Russia was not like that and threw them ..
                    2. Overlock
                      Overlock April 25 2021 00: 24
                      +7
                      Quote: Barberry25
                      How to .. move, get citizenship for example

                      Are they expected in Russia?
                      The state program to assist the voluntary resettlement of compatriots living abroad to the Russian Federation was adopted by the decree of the President of the Russian Federation on June 22, 2006. In 2012, it became indefinite.
                      Results: they planned to receive 443,2 thousand people, in fact, 8,8 thousand people moved to Russia. Why?
                    3. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 April 25 2021 02: 05
                      -1
                      laughing And they are little children? Just how Andrei is torn - he is the most patriotic patriot .. but for some reason he needs to provide all the conditions .. and then he might move .. words differ from actions ..
                    4. Andrey Grad
                      Andrey Grad April 26 2021 10: 51
                      0
                      You are either a provocateur or. For the last 20 years, I could and today I can leave even to Moscow, even to London, even to Berlin, WITHOUT PROBLEMS to leave for good AND SO MANY RUSSIANS did it in the Baltic states when they realized that official Moscow had betrayed them.
                  2. Andrey Grad
                    Andrey Grad April 26 2021 11: 06
                    0
                    Results: they planned to receive 443,2 thousand people, in fact, 8,8 thousand people moved to Russia. Why?
                    Don't you seriously understand?
                    Yes, because the RUSSIAN people living on the outskirts, in Belarus and the Baltic states have lived there for centuries and consider their land RUSSIAN despite the cartographic names.
                    In Moscow, the tsars changed, regimes changed, French and German troops passed back and forth, invaders appeared, local princelings raised riots, BUT RUSSIA ALWAYS RETURNED.
                    And now people hope that RUSSIA WILL BACK.
                  3. Barberry25
                    Barberry25 April 26 2021 17: 32
                    0
                    type will return .. type to all the sisters will distribute earrings .. well, yes .. why go to Russia, when it’s good here too?
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                  5. Barberry25
                    Barberry25 April 27 2021 13: 03
                    -1
                    you diminish the ardor .. it’s not me who needs to be rude, but your government, but it’s apparently dumb .. how to get Russian citizenship, pay taxes and be ready to defend the Motherland .. sit in the Baltics for 30 years and tell everyone that “Russia has betrayed us "
                  6. Andrey Grad
                    Andrey Grad April 27 2021 13: 44
                    0
                    You are quite kuku, what is my government, which came from the west with American and German passports?
                    Half of the Russians in the Baltic States are deprived of civil rights, people have no RIGHT to choose AT ALL, we cannot elect either the government, or the mayor, or local deputies, they are elected by local Nazis and Nazis living in the West. You should at least read about the Baltic situation before writing stupidity.
                    Watch the story about defending the Motherland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvBUAlwtqoo
                  7. Barberry25
                    Barberry25 April 27 2021 14: 36
                    -1
                    And? You have already decided, you have a Motherland-Russia-or a piece of the Baltic ..
                  8. Andrey Grad
                    Andrey Grad April 28 2021 15: 18
                    0
                    For Russians, the Motherland is all of Russia with the Baltic states, Belarus and the outskirts.
                    As much as you would not want the traitors to give these Russian lands to the Nazis, we will not allow.
                  9. Barberry25
                    Barberry25 April 28 2021 15: 25
                    0
                    well, yes .. "we are traitors", so those who are in Russia fought in the Caucasus and in Syria .. and "real russkie" are all waiting for their release ... Old legend .. Tomorrow NATO and the Baltic states will declare war on Russia and you will sit and wait for release ... this is called hypocrisy .. for this I see no point in the conversation.
                  10. Andrey Grad
                    Andrey Grad April 28 2021 15: 40
                    +1
                    Do you have a brain concussion? Here, Russian people are imprisoned only for collecting humanitarian aid for Donbass, for those who openly speak for terms ranging from 5 to 10.
                    If you are such a fearless fighter, come to us, I'll make you a visa, show you how to fight the Nazis.
                  11. Aag
                    Aag April 28 2021 19: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Andrew Grad
                    Do you have a brain concussion? Here, Russian people are imprisoned only for collecting humanitarian aid for Donbass, for those who openly speak for terms ranging from 5 to 10.
                    If you are such a fearless fighter, come to us, I'll make you a visa, show you how to fight the Nazis.

                    Thank you for the worthy onslaught from Barberry. Unfortunately, he is not alone in his opinion ... Some begin to assess patriotism from the unacceptability of the opinion of people living abroad. Without understanding the fact that you wrote about, without assessing the difference between the population of the countries (sorry, republics) of the former USSR, and the current governments ... of those countries.
                    Perhaps, they are to blame for the current situation ... everyone. That's just paying the price for it ... it looks like the majority, but to a lesser extent guilty. ((
  • Decimalegio
    Decimalegio April 23 2021 18: 07
    +4
    Why are Russians only those who live in Russia and who have citizenship ????
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard April 24 2021 14: 12
    0
    Quote: Barberry25
    strange "Russians" who do not have Russian citizenship ..

    A strange system, in which not all Russians have Russian citizenship automatically. In my opinion, this is somewhat at odds with the thesis about saving the people.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 23 2021 11: 02
    +1
    Vaccine non grata: why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union
    ... Now what? Really organize medical tourism ???
    1. Andrey Grad
      Andrey Grad April 23 2021 11: 22
      +4
      We would open a commercial vaccination center in Pskov, half of the Baltic states would come there.
  • pytar
    pytar April 23 2021 11: 02
    0
    Vaccine non grata: why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union

    With all due respect to the author, the article is speculation. What are the facts?

    https://rg.ru/2021/01/20/vakcina-sputnik-v-podana-na-registraciiu-v-es.html
    January 20.01.2021, XNUMX Sputnik V vaccine submitted for registration in the EU
    RDIF has applied for registration of the Sputnik V vaccine in the EU and expects the rolling review process to begin in February, the fund said today. Obtaining registration means that the Russian vaccine will be allowed for use in the EU countries.

    https://ria.ru/20210209/vaktsina-1596631281.html
    09.02.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX the European Union accepted an application for registration of the Sputnik V vaccine
    The Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF) applied for registration of the Sputnik V vaccine in the EU on January 29 and has confirmation that the application was accepted, the speed of its approval is determined by the European regulator, the fund told RIA Novosti.

    https://www.osnmedia.ru/world/glava-evrokomissii-nazvala-usloviya-dlya-sertifikatsii-v-es-vaktsiny-sputnik-v/
    16.02.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX The head of the European Commission called the conditions for certification in the EU of the vaccine "Sputnik V"
    The head of the European Commission already announced the need to certify the Russian drug against coronavirus in January. At the same time, the right of individual countries was recognized by their internal decisions, if necessary, to certify a vaccine for use on the national market in case of an emergency. This opportunity has already been used by Hungary, which will receive 2 million doses of the Russian drug.

    https://iz.ru/1155547/2021-04-22/voz-i-reguliator-es-s-10-maia-nachnut-otcenku-proizvodstva-sputnika-v-v-rf

    22.04.2021/10/XNUMX WHO and the EU regulator will begin an assessment of the production of "Sputnik V" in the Russian Federation from May XNUMX
    The World Health Organization, together with the European Medicines Agency (EMA), will inspect the manufacturing practice of the Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine in Russia. This was announced on Thursday, April 22, by a WHO representative. He specified that the inspection will take place from May 10 to the first week of June. After the inspection, a group of experts will assess the possibility of approving the Russian vaccine for emergency use in the EU countries. “In April, a joint EMA / WHO team is conducting good clinical practice reviews. It is expected that on-site inspections of good manufacturing practices will be carried out from May 10 to the first week of June - on dates agreed with the manufacturer, ”said a WHO spokesman.

    Such a procedure, all already certified vaccines have passed, and several others have been submitted in the application, their certification will begin soon. In the Russian Federation, too, each vaccine undergoes a similar test, there is no particular difference, there are just a lot of viccines submitted for certification in the EU, but in Russia there are not so many of them. Each EU country has its own national certification procedures that it can use without regard to the procedures in the EU. Most countries still trust pan-European certification organizations more, since the EU has competence above national ones. hi

    As for the Europeans themselves, they should think about: Are those people and parties running them? After all, so far everything indicates that political ambitions and the desire to please the United States prevail among many European governments over common sense and over concern for sanitary and epidemiological safety in their own countries.

    From these lines, the author confirms that Russia is using the topic of vaccines for political purposes. That is, the doubts expressed to Europe have grounds ...
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 24 2021 14: 17
      -2
      Quote: pytar
      From these lines, the author confirms that Russia is using the topic of vaccines for political purposes. That is, the doubts expressed to Europe have grounds

      Duc, what do you want? Get vaccinated with another vaccine, create your own, Bulgarian, which will be the best. wait for your turn after others)) What is Sputnik to you?
      1. pytar
        pytar April 24 2021 16: 21
        0
        Duc, what do you want? Get vaccinated with another vaccine, create your own, Bulgarian, which will be the best. wait for your turn after others)) What is Sputnik to you?

        I state the fact that Russia uses this topic for political purposes. Fact. And about vaccines in general, it is hardly possible to determine which is the best of all! People were greatly confused by anti-Akser propaganda. With all that, vaccination is more or less normal. I personally have already received the first vaccination with AstraZeneca, in May I will receive the second. I and my friends did not have any special troubles.
        As for the Bulgarian vaccine, they have been working on it since the beginning of 2020 together with inst. Pastior, France. Since it will be a polyvalent vaccine, that is, it should act on most covid mutations, its development takes more time. It is expected to be ready by the end of the year. By the way, in St. Petersburg, they are also working on a similar polyvalent vaccine and also in cooperation with the Pastior Institute. In the meantime, we are vaccinating with all vaccines available at the moment. We have a lot of them, people can choose which one they want. It would be nice if Sputnik 5 and others were added to the choice! True, many do not want to be vaccinated at all, this is a problem in all countries of the world. hi
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 24 2021 20: 49
          -2
          Quote: pytar
          I state the fact that Russia uses this topic for political purposes. Fact.

          Everyone uses it, especially the United States and the European Union, the Russian Federation is still not the most important in this matter. This is politics and blaming only Russia for this is bad manners, however, politics in general is a dirty business.
  • K-50
    K-50 April 23 2021 11: 03
    -1
    Vaccine non grata: why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union

    Are they not allowed?
    And let them die! fellow
    Who is their doctor if they don't want to be treated?
    In addition to geyropes, there are more than enough people who want to be vaccinated. It's another matter that I was strained with money, but you can always bargain. yes
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 23 2021 14: 42
      -1
      Quote: K-50
      In addition to geyropes, there are more than enough people who want to be vaccinated.

      Stick at least a dozen needles into your bottom. Then we'll look at you, Shreka Zelenova.
  • Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. April 23 2021 11: 10
    0
    We go where we don't need to. If we understand something about the coronavirus and take the necessary steps towards our population it's good. But once we offered other countries and that's enough. They come to us on tanks and warships and planes, and we are with our hands up. with a vaccine. Maybe this is God's craft, they will die out like Neanderthals, God forgive me.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker April 23 2021 11: 35
    +3
    Today, vaccinations are available at all airports in Moscow.
    While in Domodedovo, a couple of weeks ago, while issuing an international certificate of vaccination, I watched a German who flew in for the first shot of vaccination. Those. all Europeans can, if they want, for the price of two flights to Moscow (plus 30 euros), get vaccinated without leaving the airport building.
    And a week ago, in Holland, a local pilot said that the Dutch government "... cannot allocate 10 (ten) million euros for the purchase of an additional batch of vaccine (no matter whose production) due to lack of funds in the budget ..." amazed when I learned that half of our crew was vaccinated. To my unasked question, "Where did the vaccine, which was intended for residents free from the authoritarian Sputnik-V, go?" I could not give an answer. But he said that there is simply no vaccine for mass vaccination.
    PS
    Everyone probably remembers the story about the fire in the hospital in Blagoveshchensk, shown on TV at the end of March, when the doctor was finishing heart surgery, while the firefighters were putting out the fire on the roof of the hospital.
    In the Netherlands, they just gasped when they saw this plot, commenting with the words "Yes, they are almost all there without masks."
    Like this...
    And in Norway, for example, you can only enter with a Covid test certificate, with a limitation period of no more than 24 hours. Then sit in quarantine for 10 days. And again take the test for Covid.
  • bandabas
    bandabas April 23 2021 11: 56
    0
    I will not talk about the coronavirus, and so all the ears of the media were buzzing. But we just didn't have the classic flu. Complete silence. Probably we finally won. yes
    1. tatiana korzhenko
      tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 12: 10
      +1
      It was not much where this year was not for a simple reason - the precautions taken against the coronavirus prevent infection with the flu, which in itself is much less infectious and is also just a respiratory virus.
      1. bandabas
        bandabas April 23 2021 12: 19
        -1
        Cool. Maybe next year tuberculosis and diabetes will disappear? If we live and reproduce in "mascots"?
        1. tatiana korzhenko
          tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 19: 15
          +3
          Tuberculosis in the open form (that is, when it is contagious) is a rather rare occurrence today (not counting places of detention), and so far no one has been able to contract diabetes.
      2. kochegar62
        kochegar62 April 23 2021 23: 45
        +1
        Not only. In the fall of 20, more than 60 million people were vaccinated against influenza in Russia, a record in modern history.
    2. Overlock
      Overlock April 25 2021 00: 27
      +5
      Quote: bandabas
      I will not talk about the coronavirus, and so all the ears of the media were buzzing. But we just didn't have the classic flu. Complete silence. Probably finally won

      just all mixed in a heap - and the corona and the flu. There are fears that a more terrible virus will come instead of the flu
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 April 23 2021 12: 05
    0
    "Caring for citizens is not part of the plans of the European Union" in the Soviet Union, caring for citizens was a priority, and capitalists think three times before caring about citizens.
    1. tatiana korzhenko
      tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 14: 17
      +1
      It is very unprofitable for the modern capitalist to have his worker sick.
    2. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 23 2021 18: 37
      +3
      Ministry of Internal Affairs, do they doubt that under socialism they were taking over the people?
      Forgot free medicine, rest houses, sanatoriums? And what were the prices in the canteens. One could gorge on a ruble. With 30 rubles you could walk in a restaurant, but now?
      1. tatiana korzhenko
        tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 19: 00
        +1
        Most likely, you have never been to modern capitalist countries, and what is in Russia today has a very distant relationship to modern capitalism.
  • Decimalegio
    Decimalegio April 23 2021 12: 09
    +4
    Another propaganda article. Leave politics alone. But there are no prejudices on the part of doctors about Russian vaccines in Europe. However, I am sure that in order to sell drugs in Russia, Russian laws must be observed. Why don't you want to comply with European laws to use Russian medicine in Europe ????????????????????????????????????? ?????. Once the EMA has completed its evaluation of the Sputnik vaccine, it can be used. Evaluation began on March 4, 2021. Let me remind you that the Curevac vaccine was presented at the EMA on February 12, and the evaluation is still ongoing. In addition, there is a collaboration between the Italian Institute of Infectious Diseases and the Gamaleya Institute for testing and studying the Russian vaccine https://www.inmi.it/comunicato-a-firma-congiunta-inmi-l-spallanzani-e-hamaleya-institute .html especially in terms of effectiveness versus options. In addition, the University of Ferrara, together with the Spallanzani Institute for Infectious Diseases, began a study of San Marino citizens vaccinated by satellite. http://www.unife.it/it/notizie/2021/scienza-cultura-e-ricerca/sperimentazione-sputnik also 21 April 2021 Nicola Magrini, CEO of the Italian Drug Agency (Aifa), interview at 24am on Radio 24.V
    about the Sputnik vaccine, “I'm glad there is another vaccine to evaluate,” he stresses. “The Ema review is ongoing. And the product quality assessment was postponed at their request in late May, early June. Therefore, the timeframe is as follows, and it is likely that in June, the dossier will be completed and therefore evaluated. " In such cases, one should talk about science, and not about political propaganda.
    Then, as for the Astrazeneca vaccine, Johnson & Johnson vaccine, as a vaccine with a viral carrier, as a companion, thromboembolic type akl adverse reactions have occurred. It is a safe vaccine like all other vaccines. All medications can cause adverse reactions in some subjects. Read the aspirin leaflet and you will see the reactions it can cause, but it is sold and used. You should stick to numbers, not emotionality. If on Monday you give a glass of orange juice to 6 million people, then by next Thursday a number of people may die for various reasons, can we say that orange juice is to blame ???. Facts are not propaganda
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk April 23 2021 12: 18
    +3
    I was grafted with Sputnik at the end of February - beginning of March. After the first vaccination, the next day, there was a slight fever and fatigue for several days. There was nothing else. The small number of those vaccinated is explained by the fact that, unfortunately, there are no sufficient production capacities in Russia, which is why Russia tried to expand production abroad. But I don't really trust Pfizer, who is known only for potency))
    1. tatiana korzhenko
      tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 13: 30
      +1
      This is because you have not heard of their other medicines. And there are actually a lot of them. And you can, of course, not trust him, but in fact this vaccine is the most successful and with minimal side effects. The only drawback is strict storage conditions, but for developed countries is not a problem.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 23 2021 14: 59
      +2
      Quote: From Tomsk
      The small number of vaccinated people is explained by the fact that, unfortunately, there are no sufficient production capacities in Russia.

      It's not about the capacity, but about the lack of confidence in the vaccine of the bulk of the people.
    3. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 23 2021 19: 15
      0
      I did it myself in early February. For two days a little - a little temperature. At that time, we did 8-10 vaccinations a day. By the end of February 60 per day. Now additional points are being opened in the branches of the polyclinic. Now, in general, with branches, they do 320-350 vaccinations a day. Oldest woman: 84 (!) Feels great, and there were so many horror stories on the Internet and ALL FAKES
    4. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 23 2021 19: 20
      0
      Our doctors, among themselves, are critical of "Faizer", and "Astra Zenek" seems to be positive.
      1. tatiana korzhenko
        tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 20: 24
        -1
        And what kind of doctors are they, and what are their assessments based on?
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  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 23 2021 13: 26
    -4
    Yes, we help everyone, we supply everyone in Samara, sometimes there is no vaccine ... I also think it is wrong
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik April 23 2021 13: 49
    -1
    Vaccine non grata: why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union

    Probably because their citizens are in no hurry to get vaccinated. Moreover, there are fewer and fewer of those who believe in the global pandemic scam.
  • Antagonist
    Antagonist April 23 2021 13: 54
    +9
    Vaccine non grata: why "Sputnik V" is not allowed into the European Union

    Business plus Russophobia yes
  • Antagonist
    Antagonist April 23 2021 13: 57
    +6
    the coronavirus pandemic has put the effectiveness of anti-Russian propaganda into question: first, Europe saw Russian doctors in Italy

    Not at all. Well, they saw our doctors, so what? Something has changed? Has anti-Russian propaganda declined? Not. Russophobia continues to flourish.
  • Antagonist
    Antagonist April 23 2021 13: 59
    +9
    As for the Europeans themselves, they should have thought: are those people and parties running them?

    Therefore, they have presidents and are replaced in elections ...
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  • NF68
    NF68 April 23 2021 15: 56
    +2
    Yesterday I read about Sputnik V on the German ARD TV channel. The Germans are counting on the delivery of 30 million doses from Russia. 10 million each in June, July and August.
  • Shahno
    Shahno April 23 2021 16: 48
    -1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Shahno
    You are not very right. And the Russian vaccine and the EU-vaccine are still of equal value, until the opposite is proven .. Let's investigate, we'll see. I hope the "greatness" will not prevent the Russians from learning some of the details.

    Not. Here are the presumptions of innocence and the vaccine manufacturer MUST prove its effectiveness and safety.

    I agree with you that I have to. The only question is that it is not clear in front of whom ... If on the international market. So, of course, the Hippocratic oath remains and so on.
    For example, with the vaccine that Israel mostly worked with ... it was political influence and ... well, you get the idea. By and large, everyone has no time to delve into biotechnological subtleties, everything is decided by a group of experts recruited according to unknown criteria, with a certain level of their funding.
    Ps. I hope I have communicated my position .. The reasons for our successful experiences with the use of any drug (or vaccine) in our balanced system of health insurance funds ..
  • m.voron
    m.voron April 23 2021 17: 01
    +5
    "Caring for citizens is not included in the plans of the European Union" - nonsense!


    In Russia, 7,39% of the population was vaccinated for the same number - this is 1 dose, 2 doses - 4.41%. My question is, who doesn't care about their citizens?
    1. tatiana korzhenko
      tatiana korzhenko April 23 2021 19: 05
      +1
      "Federal channels" and their sites do not provide such statistics for humane reasons - why upset the people?
    2. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O April 23 2021 22: 23
      -2
      That's it Mikhalych
  • riwas
    riwas April 24 2021 08: 07
    0
    We would have to provide ourselves first.
    I'm from Novosibirsk. I signed up for vaccinations in January and am still waiting for my turn. We have a percentage of vaccinated in the region of 3,5%.
    https://ngs.ru/text/health/2021/04/21/69876932/
    In Russia, a little better - 6%.
    https://ngs.ru/text/health/2021/04/17/69870821/
    Sergei Netesov, a virologist, corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Doctor of Biological Sciences, Head of the Laboratory of Biotechnology and Virology at the Faculty of Natural Sciences of Novosibirsk State University, professor said that if we vaccinate at the same rate, we will only be vaccinated by 2023.
    https://ngs.ru/text/health/2021/04/06/69849740/
    1. Klingon
      Klingon April 25 2021 09: 39
      0
      in Russia there is the same queue, the author just wrote an urrya-patriotic article not fully consistent with reality
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 24 2021 15: 49
    +1
    We have something to worry about, they will start to die like flies, they will sing differently. fellow
  • Klingon
    Klingon April 25 2021 09: 36
    0
    The author is not entirely aware: in Germany, they mainly vaccinate BioNTech / Pfizer and AstraZeneca only those who are over 60, due to the risk of thrombosis in young women, and now this vaccine has been removed from vaccination altogether
  • Simpson
    Simpson April 25 2021 21: 10
    -1
    Maybe I'm wrong about something, but from the vision of the West, where the social system rules, and 50% live well, 10% live richly, and when they say that Some Venezuela with 85% of the poor population made a vaccine and is ahead of advanced countries. The oligarchs of the country are measured, but how the people live in the country, how well the civilized world is measured. Pinochet did not understand this either.
  • kig
    kig April 26 2021 12: 27
    0
    which was directly related to the peculiarities of the organization of the Russian healthcare system
    - that's really not necessary !. Apparently, you did not wait for a doctor for 3-4 days, did not look for missing medicines in pharmacies, did not buy masks for 30 rubles. Our healthcare system has failed miserably with the covid test.
  • Konnick
    Konnick April 27 2021 13: 21
    0
    Hungary, with its odious and unloved in Brussels Viktor Orban. Budapest does not even hide the fact that it has begun purchasing Russian vaccines.

    I would replace the odious with an adequate one. In general, Hungary's policy towards LGBT people, and in terms of economic cooperation with us, even the political confrontation with Ukraine, is surprising. And what is still surprising is this attitude towards the monuments and graves of our soldiers, they seem to have fought against us, but compared to the Poles and Czechs, they are very respectful of memorials and do not demolish monuments.
  • riwas
    riwas April 28 2021 04: 18
    +1
    An inspection from the EU goes to Russia to check the Sputnik V vaccine. However, Moscow is confident that in any case, the Russian vaccine will still be banned in Europe.
    http://svadbafun.ru/%E2%80%8Bkomissiya-es-edet-v-rossiyu-otnositelno-sputnika-v-v-mid-rf-dali-kommentarij/
    What for? One option is industrial espionage. Spy on the secrets of creating our vaccine in order to refine your own.
    1. m.voron
      m.voron 6 May 2021 17: 34
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      "To spy on the secrets of creating our vaccine in order to modify your own" - you need to watch less TV, especially Solovyov, Skabeeva and the like, otherwise it will be difficult to live.
  • adena
    adena April 28 2021 17: 38
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    It is difficult to get vaccinated in Riga now, of all acquaintances, relatives or friends, only the mother-in-law has taken root (the "modern" vaccine). Mother-in-law was at risk, took root 1 month ago. Now, due to the increase in the number of infected, even the risk group is vaccinated in a "live" queue, the recording is no longer made (in any case, my mother and sister were not recorded).
    But the blockage with vaccinations is secondary, people do not receive medical care in principle. My whole family is carrying the crown at home, without medical assistance, without prescription drugs (which means no discounts when buying). The authorities took care of the following: no paid PCR test, 1 call from epidemiologists (registration), 1 call from the doctor's association, sick leave for the wife (14 days), sick leave for the daughter-in-law (14 days as a contact person, fortunately she is not got infected), referral for CT after discharge (Thanks to the family doctor, they gave a discount for this, but who needs it if CT is not available now).
    So you should not be surprised at the low level of vaccination of the European population, if even general medical care is not available, what kind of vaccination can we talk about?