French media: The old strategic confrontation between Russia and Turkey has resumed

Since 2016, Putin and Erdogan can be considered partners. And this partnership was secured by a contract for the supply of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Turkey.

Renaud Girard argues in an article published by the French newspaper Le Figaro about why the Turkish "sultan" began to support Ukraine, causing the Kremlin's displeasure.

The French media notes that before that, Moscow and Ankara had established effective cooperation in the Middle East and North Africa. According to the publication, Moscow and Ankara have divided Libya into two zones of influence - western and eastern. At the same time, they do not focus on the fact that France also did not remain indifferent to Libyan affairs, providing active support to the LNA, unlike Russia, which is in favor of ending the conflict.

Girard also mentions the Astana Agreement concluded between Russia, Turkey and Iran, aimed at resolving the Syrian issue. He notes that Putin even turned a blind eye to the actions of the Turkish military against the Kurds in northern Syria.

But then, suddenly, Erdogan warmly welcomes President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky in Istanbul, agrees with him on the production of the latest Turkish drums in Ukraine drones Bayraktar TB2 and publicly condemns the “occupation” of Crimea.

In the Kremlin, this behavior of the "Sultan" can be regarded as a betrayal. There is even a feeling that the old and long-forgotten strategic confrontation between Russia and Turkey has resumed.

According to Girard, with this step the Turkish president is simultaneously "killing two birds with one stone." By helping Ukraine, he is helping to mend deteriorating relations with the United States and NATO. At the same time, he takes the country out of Western sanctions, yielding the role of the "villain" to Moscow.

Now we should expect a reciprocal move by Putin. It is unlikely that the Kremlin will limit itself to closing Turkey to Russian tourists. Girard suggests that in response, Moscow may start supporting the Kurds or join the anti-Turkish axis Israel-Greece-Cyprus.

Comments

[Trapp1st]

In response, Moscow may start supporting the Kurds or join the anti-Turkish axis Israel-Greece-Cyprus.

Well, this is very unlikely.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Trapp1st

Well, this is very unlikely.

very maybe

[Trapp1st]

The Kurds have decided on their "friends" and until they make real contacts with the government in Damascus, we will simply observe, and the United States will not allow them to make contacts. As for the Greeks, we will certainly support them with a kind word and concern, we will arrange a warm meeting in Moscow at the most, although the Greeks themselves are in no hurry to develop contacts with us.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Trapp1st

Kurds have decided

just not decided! today so - tomorrow that way

[Trapp1st]

just not decided!

They are under the protectorate of the United States, they are acting in accordance with the plans of the United States, even in spite of the fact that now they have to cooperate with terrorists who slaughtered them and sold them at bases like cattle. Well, if this is not a dependent position, then you are right.

[NIKN]

You don't need to join anyone, these are attempts to drive a wedge between Russia's relations with anyone, such is the wave that the United States has raised on us. and supported (and where to go) by the vassals.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Trapp1st

The Kurds have decided on their "friends" and until they make real contacts with the government in Damascus, we will simply observe, and the United States will not allow them to make contacts. As for the Greeks, we will certainly support them with a kind word and concern, we will arrange a warm meeting in Moscow at the most, although the Greeks themselves are in no hurry to develop contacts with us.

Once upon a time, the friends of the Kurds were the Soviet Union. In those days, everything was clear: who was against us, and who was for. And now, like Orwell's: yesterday we fought with Oceania for Eurasia, and today we are fighting together with it against Eurasia. The people will soon melt the chips.

[figwam]

Soon Azerbaijan will begin to break through to Nakhichevan.

[Trapp1st]

Soon Azerbaijan will begin to break through to Nakhichevan.

Aliyev is certainly a populist, but he has a higher education in Moscow, and not any Columbia or George Washington University, he is not at all a stupid person.

[Andrey Korotkov]

However, it plays on our nerves .. After all, it’s not the enemy, but the timing was not the right one for the questions.

[Trapp1st]

After all, not a populist, but the timing was not the right one for questions.

What time is it for such questions? If the same question had been asked, in a hot stage, or immediately after it, it would have been even more unpleasant, as he continues to politically exploit the victory in Karabakh, engage in populism, Azerbaijanis are winding up to euphoria, it somehow needs to be supported, otherwise all sorts of things will start not comfortable questions. No one has filmed our demand for Azerbaijan to investigate the downed helicopter.

[Andrey Korotkov]

You're right today, any positive gestures towards Russia are not in trend, Aliyev declares about the strategic relations of our countries, and he himself muddies his geo policy

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Trapp1st

Soon Azerbaijan will begin to break through to Nakhichevan.

Aliyev is certainly a populist, but he has a higher education in Moscow, and not any Columbia or George Washington University, he is not at all a stupid person.

And Columbia University, which is part of the Ivy League, sucks, where 104 Nobel laureates studied, taught or did research activities, that any sane person would prefer, if possible, to avoid entering this sharashkin's office for their child.

[Trapp1st]

104 Nobel laureates

former US First Lady Hillary Clinton and Republican Senator John McCain nominated President Mikheil Saakashvili for the Nobel Prize

Columbia University graduate
Balabol

[Krasnodar]

There are other graduates there, for example:
Barack Obama, President of the United States;
Jake Gyllenhall, actor;
Federico Garcia Lorca, poet and playwright;
Isaac Asimov, writer;
Joseph Gordon-Levitt, actor;
Jerome D. Salinger, actor;
Stanley Kubrick, director;
Alisha Keys, singer;
Warren Buffett, businessman;
Arthur Burns, economist;
James Renwick, architect.
Continue?

[Trapp1st]

Proceed? laughing

Keep going

[Krasnodar]

Graduates and former students of Chemistry 1932 Irving Langmuir (BS, 1903; MA, 1906) 1946 John H. Northrop (BS, 1912; MA, 1913; PhD, 1915) 1972 William H. Stein (Ph.D., 1938) 1981 Roald Hoffmann (BA, 1958) 1985 Herbert A. Hauptman (Massachusetts, 1939) 1989 Sydney Altman (Graduate Student; Teaching Assistant, 1960-1962) 2001 William S. Knowles (Ph.D., 1942) 2005 Robert H. Grubbs (Ph.D. 1968) 2012 Robert J. Lefkowitz (BA, 1962; MD, 1966; Presbyterian Hospital staff, 1966-1967) Economics 1971 Simon S. Kuznets (BS, 1923; MA, 1924; PhD, 1926) 1972 Kenneth J. Arrow (MA, 1941; candidate of sciences, 1951). November 1976, XNUMX Milton Friedman (Researcher, 1943-1945; Ph.D., 1946; professor, 1937-1940 and 1964-1965) 1993 Robert W. Vogel (Massachusetts, 1960) 1996 William S. Vickrey (MA, 1937; PhD, 1948; teacher, 1946-1996) 1997 Robert S. Merton (BS, 1966) 2012 Alvin E. Roth (BS, 1971) Peace 1906 Theodore Roosevelt (Law student, 1880–1882) 1931 Nicholas Murray Butler (BA, 1882; MA, 1883; Ph.D., 1884, President of Columbia, 1902-1945) 1996 Jose Ramos Horta (graduate school, graduated in 1984) 2009 Barack Obama (BA, 1983) Physics 1923 Robert A. Millikan (Ph.D., 1895) 1944 II Rabi (Doctor of Philosophy, 1927; teacher, 1929-1988) 1965 Julian S. Schwinger (BA, 1936; PhD, 1939) 1972 Leon N. Cooper (BA, 1951; MA, 1953; PhD, 1954) 1975 James Rainwater (MA, 1941; PhD, 1946; instructor, 1939-1986) 1978 Arno A. Penzias (Massachusetts, 1958; Ph.D., 1962) 1980 Val L. Fitch (Ph.D., 1954; teacher, 1953-1954) 1988 Leon M. Lederman (MA, 1948; PhD, 1951; teacher, 1951-1989) 1988 Melvin Schwartz (Bachelor, 1953; PhD, 1958; Lecturer, from 1958 to 1966, from 1991 to 2006) 1989 Norman F. Ramsey (Bachelor, 1935; PhD, 1940; teacher, 1941-1947) 1995 Martin L. Pearl (Ph.D. 1955) 2018 Arthur Ashkin (BS, 1947) Physiology or Medicine 1946 Herman J. Müller (BA, 1910; MA, 1911; PhD, 1916; instructor, 1918-1920) 1950 Edward K. Kendall (BS, 1908; MA, 1909; PhD, 1910) 1956 Dickinson W. Richards (MA, 1922; MD, 1923; teacher, 1925-1973) 1958 Joshua Lederberg (Bachelor, 1944; medical student, 1944-1946; teacher, 1990-1999) 1964 Konrad E. Bloch (Ph.D., 1938; professor, 1938-1946, 1966) 1967 George Wald (Massachusetts, 1928) 1973 Konrad Lorenz (Columbia College, 1922-1923) 1976 Baruch S. Bloomberg (Postgraduate student of the Department of Mathematics from 1946 to 1947; Doctor of Medicine, 1951; Resident, 1951-1953; Fellow, 1953-1955) 1980 Baruy Benacerraf (BS, 1942; Research Fellow, 1948-1950) 1989 Harold E. Varmus (M.D. 1966; Presbyterian Hospital staff, 1966-1968; University Trustee, 2002-2005) 1998 Louis J. Ignarro (BS, 1962) 2004 Richard Axel (AB, 1967; Resident, Researcher and Research Fellow, 1971-1978; Faculty Member, 1978-present) Faculty, Researchers, etc. Chemistry 1934 Harold K. Yuri (Faculty Lecturer from 1929 to 1945) 1960 Willard Libby (Research Scientist, 1941-1944) 1970 Luis Federico Lelloir (Research Scientist, 1943-1945) 2008 Martin Chalfi (William R. Kenan, Associate Professor, current Department of Biological Sciences) 2017 Joachim Frank (Professor, Director of the Frank Lab) Economics 1982 George J. Stigler (Research Fellow, 1942-1945; Faculty Member, 1947-1958) 1987 Robert Solow (scholarship year 1949-1950) 1992 Gary S. Becker (faculty member, 1957-1970) 1999 Robert Mundell (faculty member since 1974) to the present) 2000 James J. Heckman (faculty member from 1970 to 1974) 2001 Joseph Stiglitz (faculty member since 2001) to the present) 2006 Edmund Phelps (faculty member since 1971) to the present) Literature 1987 Joseph Brodsky (member of the faculty from 1978 to 1985) 1991 Nadine Gordimer (teacher, 1971-1972, 1976-1978, 1983) 1992 Derek Walcott (teacher, 1979, 1981 to 1983, 1984) 2006 Orkhan Pamuk (Visiting Scholar, 1985 to 1988; Research Fellow, 2006 to present) 2001 Bruce Robbins Professor of Humanities at the Old Dominion Foundation in the Department of English and Comparative Literature Physics 1938 Enrico Fermi (faculty member from 1939 to 1942) 1949 Hideki Yukawa (Faculty Lecturer from 1949 to 1954) 1955 Polycarp Kush (faculty member from 1937 to 1972) 1955 Willis E. Lamb (teacher, 1938-1952, 1960-1961) 1957 Tsung Dao Li (faculty member, since 1953) to the present) 1963 Maria Geppert Mayer (teacher, 1940-1946) 1964 Charles H. Townes (faculty member from 1948 to 1961) 1975 Aage Bohr (teacher, 1949-1950) 1976 Samuel Si Si Ting (faculty member from 1964 to 1967) 1979 Stephen Weinberg (faculty member from 1957 to 1959) 1981 Arthur L. Shavlov (teacher, 1949-1951, 1960) 1984 Carlo Rubbia (postdoc at Nevis Laboratories, 1958-1960) 1988 Jack Steinberger (teacher, 1950-1970, 1985-1986, 1988-1998) 1998 Horst L. Stormer (faculty member since 1998) to the present) 2006 John C. Mather (Post-Doctor of the Goddard Space Research Institute, 1974-1976) Physiology or Medicine 1933 Thomas Hunt Morgan (faculty member from 1904 to 1928) 1956 André F. Kurnan (faculty member, 1935-1988) 1969 Salvador E. Luria (teacher, 1940-1942) 1976 D. Carlton Haydusek (graduate school, 1946-1947) 1978 Daniel Nathans (intern and medical resident, 1954 to 1959) 1982 Sune Bergström (scientific internship, 1940-1941) 1990 E. Donnall Thomas (faculty member from 1955 to 1963) 2000 Eric Kandel (Faculty member, since 1972) to the present) 2004

[Trapp1st]

List of people of Columbia University

What does a list of people mean? Balabol. People, horses, teachers, trainees ...

[Krasnodar]

Famous People, incl. Nobel laureates who studied at Columbia University.
You just don't understand what you are writing about. You do not know the level of this institution, but write. Aby write.

[Trapp1st]

who studied

? # @ #%: Balabol. At least read what I copied and passed, there are mostly teachers, guests, trainees and those who passed by.

incl. Nobel laureates

Who?
In general, I noticed you a long time ago, copy and paste your everything.

[Krasnodar]

Read the first line, it says - graduates and former students.
But I think visiting faculty members at Columbia University have accomplishments no less impressive than the people I listed above.
Now the list of Nobel Laureates:
Robert Andrews Milliken (KU graduate), Nobel Prize in Physics
Irving Langmuir - Nobel Prize in Chemistry
Graduate of the Mining Institute, Columbia University
Isidore Ayzek Rabi - Nobel Prize in Physics Completed his BA (bachelor's) degree at Columbia University, defended his doctorate there
John Howard Northrop - Nobel Prize in Chemistry. A graduate of KU, worked at KU.
Hermann Joseph Möller - Nobel Prize in Medicine, graduate and worked, incl. in KU.
Edward Calvin Kendall - Nobel Prize in Medicine. CU graduate.
Dickinson Woodruff Richards Jr. is a CU graduate. Nobel Prize in Medicine.
Joshua Lederberg - Nobel Medicine. Received a scientific degree in biochemistry at KU.
Julian Seymour Schwinger - NP Physics graduate.
Proceed? There's still a long list, no Nobel Peace Prize winners

[Trapp1st]

So that no one has any doubts that you are an ordinary balabol, take any one and go to} \ {No. "@, for example Irving Langmuir Nobel laureate in chemistry. Becoming a student at Columbia University, Langmuir enrolled in the Mining Institute, because, as he later explained, “they gave good training in chemistry.” He also studied at the University of Göttingen, the Stevenson Institute of Technology in Hoboken, and received a Nobel Prize in the General Electric laboratory, not at Columbia University. and good specialists too, as well as in the fact that you thoughtlessly knock on the keyboard.

Proceed? There's still a long list, no Nobel Peace Prize winners laughing

Go on.

[Krasnodar]

But he studied at Columbia, huh?
As they say, do not carry bags
And what about John Howard Northrop, for example? Columbian graduate, worked at Columbia, and?
Here's a link to all the Nobel laureates who once studied at Columbia University: there are 55 of them.

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_лауреатов_Нобелевских_премий_по_университетам

Find this university there, study the topic, then find an equivalent Moscow Soviet Times, and then decide, for yourself, which of us is Balabol and very good. little knowledgeable, boiling in his tiny little world of people)).

[Looking for]

you might think. you know. balabol !!

[Krasnodar]

Columbia University is one of the leading in the world. According to research, prestige for employers, trainees in a number of scientific fields, scientists for research, etc., therefore, the assertion of the gentleman under the nickname trapp1st about "some Colombian" is a complete profanation. Complete!

[KBaHT_BpeMeHu]

[trapp1st about "some Colombian" is a complete profanation. Complete! yes] So the person does not claim that Columbia University is profanity, he meant famous not very smart leaders with his diploma. You also started with 104, when you have already posted 55, graduates who did not respond very flatteringly, moreover, in the direction of their activities)) do not check what you post, how would you call your posts more chatter about it)

[Krasnodar]

104 laureates taught, studied, trained, participated in the crossings of this University, etc.

104 Nobel laureates studied, taught or engaged in research activities at the university.

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Колумбийский_университет
As for stupid graduates - I agree, I do not consider Obama a genius, but to speak contemptuously about one of the best universities in the world is pure profanation. Incidentally, the trust fund of Columbia University is comparable to the annual budget of the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation - 10,9 billion tanks

[KBaHT_BpeMeHu]

I read carefully, he did not seem to write anywhere that the university is bad, he wrote that your posts are bad

[Krasnodar]

Trapp1st
Trapp1st
Yesterday, 11: 08

+6
Soon Azerbaijan will begin to break through to Nakhichevan.
Aliyev is certainly a populist, but he has a higher Moscow education, not any columbia university or George Washington University, he is not at all stupid.

You probably missed this moment

[KBaHT_BpeMeHu]

You probably missed this moment

It seems there is not

Aliev ... but he has a higher education in Moscow, and not any Columbia university

that is, we are talking about presidents, and not about scientists at all, you probably did not quite grasp the meaning. I immediately remember Obama and Saakashvili, maybe they really should have studied better at MGIMO , how do you think ?

[Krasnodar]

As for Obama - I think, and I have already written this, that he is far from being a genius.
I also believe that no matter where the fool graduated from the humanities faculty - at MGIMO or Oxford - he will remain a fool. Although, judging by the fact that Barak Huseynovich managed to occupy one of the most prestigious posts in the world, it is difficult to call him a silly
In any case, it was about the prestige of the university. Moscow universities, even during the Soviet era, and Columbia University are two big differences, and far from in favor of the former, the same MGIMO
Well, the dispute turned not into the mainstream of politics, but went according to the quality of the University

[figwam]

Quote: Trapp1st

Aliyev is certainly a populist, but he has a higher education in Moscow

This is his statement yesterday, there is a new war ahead!

"Azerbaijan will achieve the creation of the Zangezur corridor regardless of Armenia's desire," Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said on April 20 in an interview with AzTV TV channel.

“The creation of the Zangezur corridor fully meets our national, historical and future interests. We are implementing the Zangezur Corridor, whether Armenia wants it or not. If he wants, it will be easier to resolve this issue, if he does not want to, we will decide by force. I said before the war and during the war that they must get out of our land of their own free will, otherwise we will throw them out. And so it happened. The same will happen with the Zangezur corridor, ”Aliyev said.
“Our main competitor is time. Because the construction of a railroad, a highway takes time. Therefore, all forces are mobilized to implement this project. Thus, the Azerbaijani people will return to the captured Zangezur after 101 years, ”the President of Azerbaijan said.

[Anar]

Well, it is true, if a country that, in order to stop the war, promised to allocate land for this corridor, and then after everything stopped, does not do this, then the only reasonable way is to continue the war. Promises must be kept or kicked in the head for lying.

[knn54]

Turkey's economy is not that strong. Lira is very "flimsy".
And the funds that the Turks invest in the occupied territories are quite amazing ..
The question is who the sponsor is.
Therefore, is Erdogan so independent in his actions?
And he clearly counted on Crimea. On the one hand, loans to Ukraine, and on the other hand, the Mejlis.
Therefore, the peninsula could find itself in the position of Adjara, which seems to be a part of Georgia, but in fact Turkey has much more influence, Plus debt obligations (very considerable) of Georgians to the Ottomans.
According to the stories of friends, the Turks took very seriously Abkhazia, where Meskhetian Turks exiled to the Fergana Valley once lived. Now there are a lot of them in the North Caucasus, including the Stavropol Territory.
And was the coup attempt the "last" warning of the Anglo-Saxons to Erdogan ..

[Anar]

Over the past 4 years, Turkey has been occupying the first 3 places in terms of the size of the world humanitarian aid provided. In 2019, it was in the first place, having given 7,2 billion. If Turkey had no money, it would not distribute money to poor countries.

[Uncle lee]

The old strategic confrontation between Russia and Turkey has resumed

And it has not stopped since ancient times. It calmed down for a while ... And the Turks are Turks!

[GoraN]

Don't give a shit about this deal with Ukraine

[tralflot1832]

Maybe the French just want Russia and Turkey to resume the confrontation. They themselves cannot do anything with Erdogan, after he fucked Macron in full, for the latter's attitude to the Masulman culture. Failed conspirators!

[rotmistr60]

the Turkish president simultaneously "kills two birds with one stone"

And another Russian proverb says: "You will chase two hares, you will not catch a single one." There is no dispute that Erdogan considers himself a "great" politician and leader, but before he frankly fights (flirting with Zelensky and sweet songs), one should calculate how this might end.

[prior]

And to the "paddling pools" just to sprinkle with salt ...
The "frogs" know their frog business. They croak on occasion and for no reason.
Look, the stork will come!

[rocket757]

French media: The old strategic confrontation between Russia and Turkey has resumed

Come on, you can, of course, remember and try ... well, so the flag is in their hands and ski / P \ idar between the "buns", let them go for a spin.

[Prisoner]

At all times, everyone butts with everyone. You might think that the French with the brits of Vasya or the Germans adore both of them.

[Operator]

Too late to rush

RIA News":
"The American side is concerned about the lack of information on the scale and location of the Russian nuclear arsenal, which is not included in the Agreement on Measures to Further Reduce and Limit Strategic Offensive Arms," ​​said the head of the US Strategic Command, Admiral Charles Richard.
The head of STRATCOM said that Russia is capable of producing hundreds of nuclear warheads annually. Russia's new weapons - the Burevestnik strategic complex, the Avangard missile system, the Zircon supersonic cruise missile and the Poseidon nuclear submarine - are changing the nature of its nuclear complex.
The admiral emphasized that the period when the United States could project force abroad without significant resistance from other countries is in the past. "

[Ros 56]

What to guess, wait and see.

[pytar]

In the Kremlin, this behavior of the "Sultan" can be regarded as a betrayal. There is even a feeling that the old and long-forgotten strategic confrontation between Russia and Turkey has resumed.

The centuries-old confrontation between these countries has not gone anywhere. It has acquired new forms corresponding to the situation in the 21st century.

Strategic interests of Russia and Turkey are diametrically opposed, and therefore conflicting. Since none of the parties really has a clear superiority, they are forced to compromise somewhere, trying to take a more advantageous position. By all indications, the rivalry between them in the future will intensify.

[lopuhan2006]

Israel to support Greece too? Oh well. One country, as a former woman of easy virtue, and now looking after the rest, and the other is just a slave, who is all in debt, as in silks. In the south, we are completely dependent on the policies of Erdogan and who actively uses this. Here the only way out is to build an independent and strong state, but it is very far from it ...

[Anar]

And this is said by those who are famous all over the world for their frog passions and kisses below the belt ...

[iouris]

The same can be said about the "historical confrontation" between Turkey and Europe. Genoa, Venice, the Habsburg empire also have heirs.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Krasnodar

There are other graduates there, for example:
Barack Obama, President of the United States;
Jake Gyllenhall, actor;
Federico Garcia Lorca, poet and playwright;
Isaac Asimov, writer;
Joseph Gordon-Levitt, actor;
Jerome D. Salinger, actor;
Stanley Kubrick, director;
Alisha Keys, singer;
Warren Buffett, businessman;
Arthur Burns, economist;
James Renwick, architect.
Continue?

Yes, most of them are about nothing, especially the presidents - peacekeepers who have unleashed more than one war, as a result of which more than a million people have died. The prize is for cannibalism, not for the contribution of the struggle for peace. Likewise, all these economists who create their theories are convenient for the financial oligarchy. Not to mention singers, businessmen, etc., a rag-tag from culture - we can clearly see the rejection of Man in the form of all sorts of sex freaks. Decent units. The award was discredited and all thanks to the influence of the FSA on the representatives of the Committee.