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The Su-57 fighter will be able to carry more than 10 small UAVs in its internal compartments to suppress enemy air defenses

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The Su-57 fighter will be able to carry more than 10 small UAVs in its internal compartments to suppress enemy air defenses

It confirms the information that the newest Russian Su-57 fighter can be used as a central link in network-centric operations.


First of all, we are talking about the fact that the fifth generation fighter of the Russian Aerospace Forces will receive controls for a group of unmanned aerial vehicles. According to RIA News, referring to an industry source, the Su-57 fighter will be improved in this regard. So, work has already begun on the corresponding avionics and software of the corresponding type.
The source claims that control will be carried out by a group of small UAVs.

In addition, it is noted that work is underway to create a special stand, which will be used to test the interaction of the fighter with unmanned aerial vehicles. This will allow pilots to better master the practice of this kind of interaction on the ground - in a computer simulation mode.

An important note is that small drones can be housed in the inner compartment of the Su-57. In messages RIA News it is said that such UAVs can be lifted into the air by a fighter over 10. These can be both reconnaissance and reconnaissance-strike UAVs. Moreover, the drones will be able to exchange data via special communication channels not only with the leader - the Su-57 aircraft - but also with each other, which will create a complete picture of what is happening on the ground and in the air in the area of ​​such an operation.

One of the missions is to counter enemy air defense systems. From aboard the Su-57 fighter will "go" drones that will be able to disorient the enemy's air defense. In particular, their task is to overload the channels of anti-aircraft missile systems with data, create multiple decoys, and also attack enemy air defense systems.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent April 21 2021 07: 12
    +16
    The Su-57 fighter will be able to carry more than 10 small UAVs in its internal compartments to suppress enemy air defenses

    It is gratifying, of course, that the Su-57 itself may be a UAV carrier, but it would be logical to "entrust this honor" to "Hunter", who himself is "long arm Su-57", would further expand the capabilities of the system, using small UAVs to suppress air defense ...
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 April 21 2021 07: 58
      +3
      Most likely it will be so, but the hunter will not be there for a long time, and the Su-57 has already gone into production.
      1. vic02
        vic02 April 21 2021 09: 28
        +5
        su-57 has already gone into production
        and here it is better to add that the series is planned for now as much as 5 pieces: 1 + 4 this year, which is more like a pilot piece production. And since 22, there is already a different engine, and this clearly confirms that the production process will still change and debug. tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/9891981
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 April 21 2021 09: 41
          +3
          I haven't heard of four this year.
          I heard somewhere that there are two, and from the next year already four and then on the rise. The contract for 76 vehicles has been concluded. While the series will be like this.
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 21 2021 08: 24
      +5
      Quote: Insurgent
      ... but it would be logical to "entrust this honor" to "Hunter", which itself being "the long arm of the Su-57" would further expand the capabilities of the system ...

      Well, you like honey, so be sure to use a spoon. Although, of course, it would not be superfluous.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 21 2021 08: 41
        +9
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Well, you like honey, so be sure to spoon... Although, of course, it would not be superfluous.

        Not necessarily a spoon , I agree to scoop with a mug.

        "Kharya" for me, from the growth of the capabilities of the system - "Su-57 - Hunter", will not crack No.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk April 21 2021 14: 37
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          Not necessarily with a spoon, I agree to scoop with a mug.

          Eh, if I had the opportunity, I would have prepared a saucepan for you for this business. But ... "maemo te, sho maemo."
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 21 2021 17: 04
            0
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Eh, if I had the opportunity, I would have prepared a saucepan for you for this business. But ... "maemo te, scho maemo".

            Nothing yes And Moscow was not built right away.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk April 21 2021 17: 42
              0
              Quote: Insurgent

              Nothing yes And Moscow was not built right away.

              That's it. It's not evening yet.
    3. smart ass
      smart ass April 22 2021 08: 59
      0
      Maybe it's easier to drive 24 su XNUMX to drive the UAV, do you need to enter the air defense zone?
  2. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx April 21 2021 07: 13
    +2
    On the count of ten in the internal, as it is doubtful. What size should they then be?
    And so .. The thought itself suggested itself and it would be strange if the fighter did not have such an option, which is already sharpened to interact with drones.
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 21 2021 07: 15
    -8
    Only one was built, but the plans are a program, as if we are re-equipping completely on the Su57, and for the "dessert" we will leave the Su35! What will be the next news about the possibility of the Su57 going into outer space? And that a group of five such machines will fly to the moon in a few years?
    1. mark1
      mark1 April 21 2021 07: 26
      +1
      Well, if by the end of the year five more planes will be issued (one compensation for a broken one), then, in principle, everything is according to plan.
      1. vic02
        vic02 April 21 2021 09: 18
        +2
        Well, if by the end of the year five more planes will be issued (one compensation for a broken one), then, in principle, everything is according to plan.
        They won't give out. According to plan 4. TASS tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/9891981 to help you.
        1. mark1
          mark1 April 21 2021 09: 28
          0
          I don’t need help. it was just that the Ministry of Defense talked about making up for the loss. but did not say what year.
    2. nnm
      nnm April 21 2021 07: 26
      +12
      But isn't it better to take into account modern trends now, when cars have not yet been released in a large series, than to regret later that they were in a hurry and the product no longer meets modern requirements?
      1. Soho
        Soho April 21 2021 08: 25
        +8
        Yes, you let the scattering whine. With them it is always like this: no - bad, there - even worse. No UAV - everything is lost, Russia has lagged behind. UAVs appeared - so this is a cut, cartoons.
    3. newcomer
      newcomer April 21 2021 07: 42
      +6
      laughing , no, for space MIG41. laughing .
    4. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 21 2021 08: 26
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      Only one was built, but plans are a programmer,

      If a person did not dream and make plans, he would still live in a cave to this day.
  4. mark1
    mark1 April 21 2021 07: 17
    +6
    The good news is that it would be nice if it were already in the near future.
  5. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 21 2021 07: 33
    -17%
    This model is not yet visible in the troops.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 21 2021 09: 59
      0
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      This model is not yet visible in the troops.

      Vassenka, have you been out of the army for a long time? laughing
  6. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 21 2021 07: 36
    -21%
    Yes, and why? Well, our designers have thoughts! Either the wings are in the opposite direction, then a self-sufficient aircraft is clogged with an unnecessary UAV for its function, rockets are needed there
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 21 2021 07: 43
      -19%
      But no need to, chatter is all ...
      Until the last events, everyone yelled that the UAV was a chimera, they did not decide anything ..
      And after the Karabakh events, of course, having changed their shoes, they began to shove drones into all the holes ..
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 21 2021 10: 00
        +6
        Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
        drones began to shove into all the holes ..

        Therefore, when sitting down on the toilet, be careful. yes wassat
    2. KCA
      KCA April 21 2021 09: 47
      +3
      The wings were bent in the opposite direction by everyone who could do it, the United States had at least 3 experimental aircraft, the C-37 was also experimental and was never planned for the series
  7. newcomer
    newcomer April 21 2021 07: 40
    +6
    A very interesting thought about an additional option for the 57th. I have a question: is it possible to "donate" one / two harnesses on SU / MIG35x for small drones?
    1. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov April 21 2021 07: 50
      +4
      In the original news - development has begun, let's wait, maybe Su and Migi will be in business.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer April 21 2021 07: 57
        +2
        So this is my question for the future. After all, we already have SU35 plus an order for the next series. MIG35 is also another order (I read it the other day), and SU57 for now is only doing a series, well, except for the first one sent. So for the mass scale, after working out this option for the 57th, you can also use the "little brothers", because avionics with all the minced meat in 35x of both design bureaus plus / minus is identical to the "five".
        1. Andrey Korotkov
          Andrey Korotkov April 21 2021 08: 16
          +2
          Apparently the main emphasis is on a new product (SU 57) type of promising development, let's see if the younger brothers can catch up, I agree with you, it would be very good for them hi
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 21 2021 10: 12
          +3
          "After all, avionics with all the minced meat in 35x both KB plus / minus is identical to the" five "." ///
          ---
          The avionics of the Su-57 and Su-35 should be completely different.
    2. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik April 21 2021 08: 37
      +1
      A very interesting thought about an additional option for the 57th.


      The idea is interesting. I agree. But who will control these drones? Fighter pilot? Several at the same time? Who will fly the plane? Assess the situation, fly a plane, control weapons, control drones, and what the hell knows what, and all this is one pilot? Serpent-Gorynych can and will cope. Three heads, after all.
      Those who offer to stuff a fighter with anything possible never sat at the helm, they did not conduct an air battle.
      All this requires a separate operator. And it will no longer be a fighter.
      "Bolivar will not stand ..."
      1. KCA
        KCA April 21 2021 09: 53
        +4
        Why manage? The pilot set the target, then the swarm flies by itself, defining in the situation, in principle, the problem was solved a very long time ago - the swarm of anti-ship missiles "Granit", computer and other technologies have grown a little since 1969-1975, the years of development of the P-700
        1. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik April 21 2021 18: 53
          +1
          swarm of anti-ship missiles "Granite"


          Well, you compared ....
          Granite was launched by not just one pilot, but a whole crew. In which everyone performed some function. And here are a dozen small drones. The key here is "small". There is no "AI" anywhere. One pilot cannot control the swarm. And the range of small drones is also short. What the hell can you destroy enemy air defenses with them? Their speed is also low. And the air defense still needs to be discovered. And it is still air defense, not a target in the shooting range.

          If only against the natives with the barmaley. Their carts and tents. And no air defense. But why fence a garden for this? Are the bombs out? Or an online pilot will be able to direct these devices with a joystick? Vet is the same UAV, which means the ability to fly for a while. Will the fighter pilot have some time? I doubt it.
          1. KCA
            KCA April 21 2021 19: 21
            +1
            IBM System / 360 is a very popular computer just during the development of the P-700 in 1969-1978, the most productive model weighed 7 tons, now the cheapest smartphone is billions of times more productive, neural networks develop like an avalanche, there is absolutely no problem to make a self-controlled swarm of small drones , UAV is not necessarily a screw, low-speed, it is possible to make in the form of a cruise missile with a jet or rocket engine, there are many options. By the way, in the USA the S / 360 has not yet been replaced everywhere in the Minuteman missile silos, the launch codes are stored on 8 '' floppy disks
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 April 21 2021 07: 58
    0
    The Su-57 fighter will be able to carry more than 10 small UAVs in its internal compartments to suppress enemy air defenses
    If you speculate .... the enemy's air defense can be fought in different ways, just as air defense can fight against different targets.
    The question is how will it be more effective, on both sides ???
  9. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet April 21 2021 07: 58
    +2
    Lancet to help him! And it will immediately have to be tested in Syria and the Donbass. For real goals ...
  10. nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 21 2021 08: 02
    0
    As it does not bother me that will fly to them. More that will come to us. I read that something is being prepared against drones. I think it's time to return to the filled balloons.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 21 2021 08: 53
      +4
      This is all about what the article will fly to us. The West is one step ahead, because started earlier. If it is more or less normal with the air defense system, then it is necessary to develop AWACS and balloon complexes both on UAVs and on such airplanes as Il114, SSZh .... in different versions, so that it would be as simple as possible to take a civilian airliner, to deliver "Log" with AFAR and forward ...... The number of targets during raids will increase dramatically and you will have to work with all this.
  11. Wedmak
    Wedmak April 21 2021 08: 11
    +4
    Not too much workload for one pilot? It is clear that automation, it is clear that one fighter will not carry all the nomenclature at the same time, but somehow it is still a bit too much to hang on it.
  12. Bez 310
    Bez 310 April 21 2021 08: 14
    -8
    Again fairy tales?
    Is there anything from real life?
  13. Tagan
    Tagan April 21 2021 08: 18
    +6
    Quote: Semyonich from the Urals
    But no need to, chatter is all ...
    Until the last events, everyone yelled that the UAV was a chimera, they did not decide anything ..
    And after the Karabakh events, of course, having changed their shoes, they began to shove drones into all the holes ..

    In general, drones began to be used long before the Karabakh events.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 April 21 2021 08: 29
      +13
      In general, drones began to be used long before the Karabakh events.

      this is a representative of the sect "Bayraktar Doomsday". They are unbreakable. They believe that the UAV was invented by the Turks
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 21 2021 08: 55
        +5
        Here's the power of PR. Imagine how it flooded the Muslim countries ... and how it will affect the sales of Bayraktars.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 April 21 2021 09: 34
          +2
          yes, that's for sure. The Americans did this for the first time when they allowed CNN to broadcast the fighting almost live from the Persian Gulf.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 21 2021 09: 59
            +1
            A similar approach was with APACH, it spurred sales. Especially shooting from thermal imaging cameras.
        2. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 April 21 2021 09: 50
          0
          They have a lot of foreign spare parts. Prohibitions and restrictions on their supply immediately followed. This is who drones are doing completely by himself now to get rich.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 21 2021 09: 58
            +1
            The Turks have enough brains to replace them with China .......... They now have the best optics with IR sensors. They'll put it worse.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 April 21 2021 10: 01
              0
              Well, if you have enough brains, then well done.
              But here the fact is that China itself sells such toys, the Vilongs are well bought. Why do they need a competitor?
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek April 21 2021 10: 11
                0
                China has no such goal ... in any kind of goods. This is a Chinese paradox. And their internal competition is high, for each manufacturer of a ball with optics, 10 more competitors.
    2. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 21 2021 10: 12
      -10%
      As if someone is arguing with this .. But that was the United States, for example
      But in Karabakh, the trick is that it turned out that we are simply pouring out the Turks in this matter.
      1. TerraSandera
        TerraSandera April 21 2021 12: 51
        +3
        We are not leaking anything to anyone. The army of "Artsakh" fought in Karabakh. What to take, if even Armenia, in addition to a certain amount of equipment, did not dare to completely enter the conflict. And they fought with Azerbaijan, which seemed to have more opportunities than Armenia, financially, and technologically, thanks to the alliance with Turkey (I'm 99% sure that the planning of the entire operation, and of course the management of all the drones was theirs ) and Israeli drones.
        Yes, at that moment we did not have such drummers, but now we do. And that doesn't mean we didn't have anything to stop them. Here questions are more of a political plan, in a military one, with all the desire, they would have finished in a week.
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 April 21 2021 21: 57
          0
          The first batch of drummers was handed over before the conflict, so formally they were.
          1. TerraSandera
            TerraSandera April 22 2021 01: 07
            0
            Who? All RF? For trial operation in the troops. But not for Armenia, and even less for Artsakh. We do not yet have saturation with them in the troops. Therefore, it is too early to help them, and even more so to export, even within the CSTO.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 April 22 2021 18: 26
              0
              Armenia can buy it if it wants to. Orion has an export modification. Production has already begun, this year four or seven sets are to be delivered to the Russian army.
              1. TerraSandera
                TerraSandera April 22 2021 18: 43
                0
                He can, in a year or two, if he wants to. But as they say, the train (Karabakh) left.
  14. Tagan
    Tagan April 21 2021 10: 28
    +1
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Here's the power of PR. Imagine how it flooded the Muslim countries ... and how it will affect the sales of Bayraktars.

    Not only Muslim. Ukraine also suffered))
  15. TerraSandera
    TerraSandera April 21 2021 12: 44
    +1
    This is certainly good, but maybe specialized media were more useful in such a case? Well, yes, they are not, but I think there are no problems to develop. And there will be much more than a su57 can take.
    Should such an aircraft be fitted to a drone carrier? And the very function of gaining air superiority will go to whom? It was developed for this.
    Well, let's say the internal compartments are "stuffed" with drones. Air surface. What to do when meeting an enemy in the air? You can't lean back with drones ... Rockets Air, air under the wings? But this reduces ammunition, removes all stealth efforts (you will be discovered earlier). That is, it completely changes its application.
  16. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz April 21 2021 13: 33
    0
    A zachem? Dayte stayu dronov Okhotniku i upravliayte nimi po linii SU-57 - Okhotnik - droni ili opcionalno napriamuyu SU-57 - droni.
    Nu i naprashivetsa operator dronami v SU-57, ez dvukhmestnaya verzia, ibo iskustveniy intelekt eshcho ne tot.
  17. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 April 21 2021 14: 56
    0
    so far only plans and prospects ...
  18. DHO_N1
    DHO_N1 April 22 2021 08: 32
    0
    "These Russians always do not fight according to the rules" (c) - some Fritz during the Second World War.