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Saakashvili on Ukrainian TV: the West promised Georgia military aid in 2008, but we never got it

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The statement of the former President of Georgia on the air of one of the Ukrainian TV channels caused a wide discussion in Ukraine. Commenting on the situation in Donbass and in Ukraine in general, Mikhail Saakashvili noted that Kiev should not pin too high hopes on the West.


This statement followed the words of the TV host Yevgeny Kiselyov, who presented Saakashvili as the only politician in the world "who had to endure Russia's open war against his country."

The ex-president of Georgia and the ex-head of the Odessa State Administration of Ukraine said that he would not wish anything like this to anyone.

According to Saakashvili, if there is a war between Russia and Ukraine, then "Kiev will only have to relax and have fun." The former president of Georgia said that in 2008 the West promised him military assistance in the confrontation with Russia, but Tbilisi did not receive any real military assistance.

In August 2008, we did not receive any military assistance.

Then, we recall, during the operation to force Georgia to peace, Russian troops drove the Georgian army out of South Ossetia after it attacked the positions of the Russian peacekeepers. As a result, the Russian Armed Forces stopped about 15 km from Tbilisi.

Saakashvili on Ukrainian TV:

Then Sarkozy came to me (at that time the President of France - approx. "VO") and told me: "Well, Misha, Europe has no soldiers."

The then US President George W. Bush also did not provide military assistance to Georgia. Saakashvili also draws attention to this.

The ex-president of Georgia openly made it clear that in the event of a war with Russia, Ukraine will act alone, and that the West will not help it militarily.

In Ukraine, Saakashvili's statements have been criticized. It is stated that "the West will definitely help Ukraine and will not leave it alone in the face of Russian aggression." In particular, this phrase from Joe Biden is quoted, which amused Mikhail Saakashvili to a great extent. He recalled that the aforementioned George W. Bush had promised him the same.
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  1. Alevil
    Alevil April 20 2021 19: 17
    +55
    Remember, "grieve")))
    1. Clear
      Clear April 20 2021 19: 40
      +30
      According to Saakashvili, if there is a war between Russia and Ukraine, then "Kiev will only have to relax and have fun."
      1. hirurg
        hirurg April 20 2021 20: 05
        +22
        Saakashvili as the only politician in the world "who had to endure Russia's open war against his country."
        I only got one slap on the head.
        And mourning for 13 years, with the laying on of ties.
        No, well, I have to give it credit.
        The cuff was strong enough that this deer flew out of his fiefdom.
        1. poquello
          poquello April 20 2021 20: 21
          +6
          Quote: hirurg
          I only got one slap on the head.
          And mourning for 13 years, with the laying on of ties.

          so only the other day they showed his interview with the heroic defense of Tbilisi))))))))))))))),
          and a statement about the defense of dill to the last tie, and then there is something (
          hysterical psychopathy along the way
          1. xorek
            xorek April 20 2021 20: 38
            +18
            In August 2008, we did not receive any military assistance.

            Taki and mishiko and his tie chewed and shouted .. And it was all useless!

            The hunt is following you, Mishiko, there is a lot of blood on you from the State Department's drug addict ..
            1. NIKN
              NIKN April 20 2021 20: 56
              +5
              The West also promised Georgia military aid in 2008, but we never got it.
              Misha, you seem to have already been the president and familiar with America, any agreement must be recorded on paper, otherwise it’s just about nothing, and you believe in US promises over the phone. How could such a decision be allowed at all?
              1. Mitroha
                Mitroha April 20 2021 21: 47
                +1
                "Kiev will only have to relax and have fun"

                Maybe you will like it, then you won't drag it away
            2. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I April 21 2021 01: 04
              +5
              Quote: xorek
              In August 2008, we did not receive any military assistance.

              NATO members did not have time! They were sure that the Russians "harnessed for a long time"; but they themselves did not have time to go to the toilet! Well, that’s nothing ... for them the Georgians went ... they went to the outhouse!
        2. halpat
          halpat April 21 2021 11: 11
          +11
          Quote: hirurg
          Saakashvili as the only politician in the world "who had to endure Russia's open war against his country."
          I only got one slap on the head.
          And mourning for 13 years, with the laying on of ties.
          No, well, I have to give it credit.
          The cuff was strong enough that this deer flew out of his fiefdom.

          Why a deer? Goat :)) already the horns curled into a pigtail and then fell off.
          There was such a fairy tale on the Internet about a bear cub.
          ... The old bear is dead. The bear cub, who remained the owner in the forest, was still small and therefore many animals felt the freedom. The boar, and the sprats splashing in the river, in a full voice washed the bones of the deceased, not forgetting about the heir. From the neighboring forest, a striped tiger squinted thoughtfully - unlike the others, he remembered well the old mess with a pack of wolves, in which he was lucky to be with the bear on one side and see the clubfoot in action. And he understood that for a reason, the current wolf is trying not to spoil the relationship with the bear. On the other hand, the bear cub is still too small, but his forest is large, oh, great.
          Therefore, just in case, he amicably promised his patronage to the goat, boar and sprats, in exchange for baiting the bear cub, he sits in a den and does not protrude. Those, realizing this in their own way, became insolent at the end and raised such a screech in the forest about brothers crushed and eaten by a bear and spoiled raspberries that sometimes even a tiger's ears were blocked. Plus, the not very successful romp between the bear and the mountain jackal, in which he barely won and even then on points, added courage to the screamers. And if the boar, due to natural laziness, squealed only for the company, and the sprats gurgled among themselves and were not particularly audible from under the water, then the goat, due to its hot temperament, excitedly shook its horns and publicly threatened to gore the bear.
          Thunder struck unexpectedly - if the goat used to just wander around the den and bleat belligerently, to which the bear cub only grumbled with displeasure, now he decided to bring order to the chipmunk living near the den, which had long been an eyesore to him. The chipmunk seemed to be friends with the bear cub, from old memory, but that was not seen for a long time, especially since the tiger winked approvingly from the neighboring forest ...
          But, this time everything did not go according to plan - unexpectedly for everyone, a paw stuck out from the den and moved the goat so that it, bleating loudly, flew through the entire forest. Then a bear cub climbed out of the den, during this time it had grown almost as big as a daddy, and went to look for where the goat had flown away. And, judging by the expression on the muzzle, not at all for the fact that to apologize.
          Everyone got sick abruptly: the goat darted through the forest with horns twisted into a pigtail and demanded that the forest community save him from an aggressive bear. The awakened boar squealed with concern, not so much out of solidarity as from the bad feeling that he might be next in line. The sprats were rushing about, because of which the river was practically boiling - the old bear loved to go fishing, and if the young one went to daddy ...
          The tiger, to whom the goat complaints were mainly addressed, sat in philosophical meditations: on the one hand, though a goat, but an ally, on the other, the bear's claws are long and the teeth are ogogo, albeit smaller than the daddy's. There the wolf, after the bear's claws, completely swore to hide in other people's glades, although it seemed to be a winning thing and at first it was possible to drive the bear as much as possible to the den.
          The wolf itself, though it did not show it, but still smirked to itself. He, unlike the others, had a relationship with the bear, though not friendly, but even, he did not climb into an alien garden and did not risk getting between the ears.
          I haven’t risked a rooster yet, due to the fact that I simply couldn’t peck a lot because of its size. Therefore, now he was hovering over the agitated forest and trying to reconcile everyone. True, it didn’t matter - the goat was too scared, and the bear was so fed up with everything that he chased the goat without being distracted by the rooster's cries from somewhere above.
          A boar ran behind them at a respectful distance and screeched excitedly; they had long hinted that the young bear might ask for that oak grove on the shore that the old one had given him to use simply because he did not eat acorns. But in the same grove there was a favorite bear fishing spot, from which the boar of a teddy bear survived purely from harm. Now they could recall the old sins and take away the grove altogether. And, judging by the situation with the goat, there was little hope for a tiger.
          Sprats simply panicked: on the one hand, they were the majority in the river, on the other hand, the river separated the two forests and, in the case of which, all the movement went over their heads, regardless of their desire. Moreover, even the most insane sprats understood that for any coastal resident they are just a light snack, and who will listen to the opinion of the snack.
          At that time, the raccoon, to which the goat also spoiled a lot of blood, out of solidarity with the chipmunk, and taking advantage of, honestly speaking, a convenient moment, famously wiped the goat marks on the path leading to his lair. On the one hand, this was justified by the bestial behavior of the goat, on the other hand, it was even clear to the hedgehog that the goat was now very much not up to him. Moreover, he, too, was friends with a young bear and his behavior tacitly approved, which greatly added courage to the raccoon: he is far away, and the bear is at his side, and if something happens, he just, like now, stretch out his paw.
          In the bushes, the hare was quietly rejoicing - despite the dissatisfied screeching of other animals and the tiger’s offer to put the bear on the threshold, he continued to maintain neutrality and, as the goat’s example showed, not in vain. Now he could calmly chew grass — the prospect of a showdown with an enraged bear, unlike any goats and boars, he did not shine on. And that was damn fine.
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 21 2021 00: 53
        +3
        Quote: Clear
        "Kiev will only have to relax and have fun."

        Don't argue with Misha! stop He knows! He already enjoyed it! fellow
    2. max702
      max702 April 20 2021 20: 59
      +11
      History repeats itself twice ..

    3. RealPilot
      RealPilot April 20 2021 21: 44
      +8
      This experienced "loser" knows the value of the American word!
      And I have already mastered "relaxation with pleasure" from European support. And I remembered the taste of Italian silk for the rest of my life!
      The "Oracle of Russian aggression" that surpassed Gordon itself.

      But seriously, it is he who can eloquently tell Kiev politicians not only in words, but also in deeds! By personal example, demonstrate the whole essence of the situation.
      1. RealPilot
        RealPilot April 20 2021 22: 30
        +6
        And one more moment.
        It seems that Saakashvili rebuked the Americans. But everything is somewhat more complicated ...

        He was let down by George W. Bush, Jr., a Republican. And now the Biden-Harris Democratic Administration is in the White House. And this old intriguer keeps his nose to the wind very well.

        Such words are Kunyunkturism, he "warns" about the possible loss of territories by Ukraine on the example of Georgian history. Calls to intervene. Plus gives a pass in the intra-American party game ...
        He reminds of the failure of the Republicans and supports the interests of the top of the Democrats, and at the same time criticizes the already departed Sarkozy for the edification of European politicians, such statements are not made just like that and are agreed ... I do not believe in the accident of such a statement, it is too atypical for this character.
        1. English tarantas
          English tarantas April 21 2021 06: 16
          +4
          And how is the policy of the Republicans different from the Democrats? How many American history I don’t read, since 1918 it has been going in one direction, without stops and cuffs, it just happens that Kenny was there, and what happened to him? Yes, and there is no point in criticizing Sarkozy, for the same France, the policy has hardly changed, that Sarkozy, that Macron since the time of De Gaulle is like a lump in the throat for Americans, it seems like they want to crush the French under themselves, this is not possible, strong bastards and very skillfully they know where to negotiate with the Americans, and where to send them away and have nothing to do.
    4. svp67
      svp67 April 21 2021 05: 32
      +4
      Quote: Alevil
      According to Saakashvili, if there is a war between Russia and Ukraine, then "Kiev will only have to relax and have fun."

      In this case, Zelensky has a BIG advantage, he tries to walk without a tie for more time ...
      But who said that he was not threatened with a repetition of this?
      1. English tarantas
        English tarantas April 21 2021 06: 20
        +3
        I remembered how one of the first (and like the first) president of South Vietnam finished (in a ditch with lead) and a photo where every riffraff clings to the last American helicopter like a zombie in one of the films. Or where is Lee Seung Man now?
    5. Vend
      Vend April 21 2021 13: 56
      +2
      Saakashvili did not receive his sight or is it a temporary spring madness? And they trumpeted about the victory of Georgia over Russia laughing
  2. Bykov.
    Bykov. April 20 2021 19: 18
    +16
    Mishiko knows how to maintain the morale of the Kybergs. Good and encouraging words.
    1. Clear
      Clear April 20 2021 19: 43
      +16
      Saakashvili on Ukrainian TV: the West promised Georgia military aid in 2008, but we never got it
      Not true Mishiko, No. help came from the North and quickly, so Georgia retained its statehood.
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell April 20 2021 19: 53
        +9
        Quote: Clear
        help came from the North and quickly ...

        Señora love , yes, Mishiko was just offended: he tried so hard, worked out that way, but he was not even given a green card to the poor fellow, now he homeless
        1. Clear
          Clear April 20 2021 20: 19
          +2
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          Quote: Clear
          help came from the North and quickly ...

          Señora love , yes, Mishiko was just offended: he tried so hard, worked out that way, but he was not even given a green card to the poor fellow, now he homeless

          Let him wipe off offended tears with a tie.

          Hi Michelle love
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell April 20 2021 21: 09
            +6
            Quote: Clear
            Let him wipe off offended tears with a tie ...

            It won't work ..., because he ate it laughing lol
            1. Clear
              Clear April 21 2021 16: 35
              +2
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              Quote: Clear
              Let him wipe off offended tears with a tie ...

              It won't work ..., because he ate it laughing lol

              lol then - fist
            2. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre April 21 2021 17: 15
              +1
              It won't work ..., because he ate it
              How it works out. Gobble it up, maybe it did. But I digested it - it's unlikely. So re-wash and eat again. Or wipe the tears.
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell April 21 2021 17: 20
                0
                Quote: abrakadabre
                So re-wash and eat again.

                And you are evil laughing he's a bum, he'll have something to hide behind ...
    2. 210ox
      210ox April 20 2021 19: 51
      +4
      Did Mishka really get it? Interestingly, on the air he was on the great and mighty or on the "nightingale" gutaril?
      1. avib
        avib April 20 2021 20: 16
        -15%
        Saakashvili speaks Ukrainian very well - he graduated from Lviv University. His Ukrainian is better than the Ukrainian majority of Ukrainian politicians.

        Actually, to boast of victory over Georgia ..... The Rottweiler will easily break the poodle, but with the Alabai it is unlikely to ride.
        1. didra
          didra April 20 2021 21: 07
          +2
          The poodle is Alabai's friend, right?
          1. avib
            avib April 20 2021 21: 46
            -6
            There is nothing to be proud of
            1. didra
              didra April 20 2021 22: 17
              +7
              There is something. Firstly, our leadership had the courage to send a land army into Georgia. Secondly, people were protected. Thirdly, they did not enter Tbilisi. Fourthly, the Georgians were not mocked. Fifthly, they showed amers and their lackeys what an army with the spirit of victors is - I'm sure they appreciated what they saw and thought about it.

              And in general, the comparison of Russia with a Rottweiler is not correct. Bear and ....?)
              1. avib
                avib April 21 2021 10: 16
                0
                Quote: didra
                Fifthly, they showed amers and their lackeys what an army with the spirit of victors is - I'm sure they appreciated what they saw and thought about it.

                I think that on the contrary, this war served as a trigger for the reforms of the Russian army. When commands are issued via cell phones, such an army has problems.
                The days of bayonet attacks and head-breaking bricks are over. Technique and technology are important. Morale is important, but technological - even mercenaries will crush the most motivated and heroic fighters. The war in Karabakh has shown this.
                1. Artem76
                  Artem76 April 21 2021 13: 05
                  +1
                  You dear think a lot, it's not yours, darling, come on ... Cool it down, have a snack over there with a tie ...
                  1. avib
                    avib April 21 2021 14: 07
                    0
                    Sick, don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go. Observe the decency and rules of communication on the site. If you have something to say on the topic, please. Passing on to personalities, you thereby confirm that in essence you have nothing to say.
                    1. Artem76
                      Artem76 April 21 2021 17: 17
                      +1
                      Hooked? Then broadcast your thoughts at your swamp ... to your Georgian Ukrainian.
                      And we, the Russians, are proud of our army ... We came and hit the small mongrel on the nose, although it squealed to the whole world, and no Rottweiler or Alabai dared to twitch ...
                      1. avib
                        avib April 21 2021 17: 34
                        -2
                        And we, the Russians, are proud of our army ... We came, hit the small mongrel on the nose

                        I repeat: What is there to be proud of?
                        Because of which? For what? We quarreled with the Orthodox, fraternal people, a neighboring country.
                      2. nemez
                        nemez April 22 2021 09: 15
                        0
                        Leave, they were never fraternal. There is nothing to impose. Have gone - live as you want, there will be no more help.
                      3. nemez
                        nemez April 22 2021 09: 16
                        0
                        And there are far from all Orthodox Christians there, there is Ajaria-Islamic, there are Protestants.
              2. didra
                didra April 21 2021 22: 04
                0
                When you look at (for example) Batman, do you understand that this is bullshit? So belief in a wunderwaffe is also bullshit. The Armenians lost precisely in unity and readiness to go to the end. Of course, the technically less equipped army is forced to somehow compensate for this. The myth of superfood is primarily harmful for the countries where it originated. I'm talking primarily about the United States. In general, the (vicious) idea of ​​a final victory in one general battle was born in Germany in the 70s of the XIX century. The Germans called it a blitzkrieg strategy. But the Germans, very much rested precisely on the military spirit. American doctrine is the same blitzkrieg only with Batman in the lead role). And if the batman shit shit (like in Afghanistan), who will fight?
              3. didra
                didra April 21 2021 22: 30
                0
                And yet, I agree that 2008 was a turning point in the modern history of our army. This is another reason for pride. The victory in the local conflict gave the right impulse, not relaxation.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach April 20 2021 21: 12
        +8
        Saakashvili speaks Ukrainian very well - he graduated from Lviv University. His Ukrainian is better than the Ukrainian majority of Ukrainian politicians.

        Here it became funny. He does not speak Ukrainian at all and in any way. Neither Galician nor surzhik, nothing at all. Not even at Azirov's level. As a native speaker, I will tell you if that.
        1. avib
          avib April 20 2021 21: 50
          -5
          Search YouTube for his performances in Ukrainian.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach April 20 2021 22: 25
            +2
            watched 3 videos
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnp-MpopsyE
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQgS82_pZeQ
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO9Fi3-hFig

            I confess I was wrong. He speaks quite at the level of Azarov. That is, without knowing the language at all, I somehow memorized something from a piece of paper. Maybe even due to the age and shortness of the passages, he coped with this better than Nikolai Yanovich.
            In one of the videos, he complains that he studied in Kiev, and that at that time no one spoke Ukrainian there :)

            He did not reach the great philologist Yanukovych, the speech of a foreigner who speaks Russian is clearly visible, this does not even reach the surzhik, except Azarov, another Ukrainian politician who spoke worse, I do not even remember. Of course, it is strange to blame the Georgian, but the fact that he speaks the Ukrainian language at all is very far from the truth.
            1. Avior
              Avior April 20 2021 23: 56
              +2
              In Kiev at that time there was little Ukrainian, but Sakashvili studied at a university, where he could not do without knowledge of Ukrainian even in Soviet times.
              In 1992 he graduated with honors from the Faculty of International Law of the Institute of International Relations of Taras Shevchenko University of Kyiv [21] [24].
              1. alexmach
                alexmach April 21 2021 09: 56
                +1
                In Kiev at that time there was little Ukrainian, but Sakashvili studied at a university, where he could not do without knowledge of Ukrainian even in Soviet times.

                I mean, couldn't? What kind of fables are you telling here and why? Normally, universities in Soviet times taught in Russian. My mother, though a little older than Saakashvili, studied Russian in Lviv. Whoever taught her there in Ukrainian, if most of the teachers were from Leningrad and Moscow. Okay, the mathematicians were local. You could choose the entrance examinations in which language to take, well, some Ukrainian philology was read in Ukrainian and everything else in Russian.

                Back in 2000, universities in the South and East taught mainly in Russian, although this did not correspond to the letter of the law. And here in Lviv, the big question at that time was the preparation of teaching aids in Ukrainian (aka the translation of the old ones). There were simply not enough of them, even in all old, unchanged disciplines. This is after 10 years of independence in the very center of "Ukrainians".
                1. Avior
                  Avior April 21 2021 11: 50
                  +1
                  I know. I studied at a Soviet university in Ukraine. In Russian.
                  But KGIMO at Shevchenko University was a specific university.
                  And Saakashvili finished it only in 1992. Then there was just a moment when they started talking in Ukrainian - Rukh and all that jazz.
                  Formally, Ukrainization began during the Soviet Union
                  On October 28, 1989, the Supreme Soviet of the Ukrainian SSR made changes to the Constitution of the Ukrainian SSR and adopted the Law "About languages ​​in the Ukrainian SSR" (On languages ​​in the Ukrainian SSR) [64]. The Ukrainian language was declared the only state language.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach April 21 2021 13: 13
                    0
                    Well, nevertheless, he says quite terribly. To blame him for this, of course, is ridiculous, he is still a Georgian from Georgia.

                    But KGIMO at Shevchenko University was a specific university

                    Actually, I don't know anything about this particular university, but in international relations, languages ​​are one of the main subjects, only foreign ones first of all.
            2. avib
              avib April 21 2021 10: 17
              0
              I was wrong, he studied in Kiev and served in the army in Lvov. I'm sorry.
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor April 20 2021 21: 25
        +2
        The poodle should know its place and not yap at the Rottweiler.
        1. avib
          avib April 20 2021 21: 48
          -9
          The poodle is guarding his home. The Rottweiler came to crush chickens.
          1. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor April 21 2021 00: 51
            +2
            The poodle attacked a Rottweiler puppy Ossetia for which he paid.
            And the house did not belong to the poodle anyway, but to its owners from the zaluzhye like the poodle.
            The owners had to think about when the poodle was instigated that his Rottweiler could tear like a rag.
            Looks like a poodle the owners do not really need, since they decided to use it like that.
            1. avib
              avib April 21 2021 06: 02
              -4
              The Rottweiler warmed up and hid behind the fence, ready to jump. He sent his puppies to the yard to the poodle, and as soon as the poodle went out to talk with the puppies, the Rottweiler attacked the poodle, because the Rottweiler had been disturbing for a long time that the poodle did not want to be with the Rottweiler, but just with the Alabai.
              1. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor April 22 2021 00: 57
                0
                The poodle himself was the first to attack the puppies, also in the yard of the Rottweiler and at night in the appendage, as befits fascist poodles.
      4. Sarboz
        Sarboz April 21 2021 00: 41
        0
        Quote: avib
        Actually, to boast of victory over Georgia ..... The Rottweiler will easily break the poodle, but with the Alabai it is unlikely to ride.

        Your vaunted Alabai, tail between his legs, threw away his Humvees with special equipment. Then, coming to his senses and straightening his mane, he demanded to return the Humvee. After all, no one dares to encroach on the military property of the Alabai.
        Do you happen to know if the Hummers have returned? Maybe they apologized to the formidable Alabai?
      5. English tarantas
        English tarantas April 21 2021 06: 24
        0
        In war, they are guided by the principle of sufficiency. In 2008, did the entire Russian army extinguish Georgia? No, several divisions, in fact, this is the very size for Georgia. And then you get double standards, it seems like it's clear that Russia will tear Georgia, otherwise a bloody scoop of some kind of Finland could not immediately break. You are far from the subject of this site people.
        1. avib
          avib April 21 2021 10: 32
          -3
          Quote: English tarantass
          In 2008, did the entire Russian army extinguish Georgia?

          The Lord is with you !!! It would have been something out of the ordinary. There were not several divisions, but the 58th Army, which stood ready to march and was just waiting for an order.
          As for the comparison with Finland:
          1. Finnish forests and swamps in winter are never Georgia.
          2. The Georgians were morally not ready to fight the Russians (the Georgians told me), while the Russian soldiers were ready to act very harshly (however, like in Crimea in 14, the Ukrainians could not fit into their heads that it was possible to fight the Russians) ...
          1. Sarboz
            Sarboz April 21 2021 20: 45
            0
            Quote: avib
            There were not several divisions, but the 58th Army, which stood ready to march and was just waiting for an order.

            If you do not understand the issue, then at least do not disgrace yourself. The comrade said correctly:
            Quote: English tarantass
            You are far from the subject of this site people.

            How much time would it take for a 70-strong army with all the logistic support to be alerted, removed from the deployment site, transferred to South Ossetia through the Roki tunnel through the mountains and deployed there? And this is despite all the systemic problems that were in the troops in 2008.
            On August 8-9, only 3-4 battalions of the 58th Army entered the opposition with three Georgian brigades, hastily arrived to support our battered peacekeeping battalion. In total, by the end of the operation to force the aggressor to peace, no more than 22,5 thousand people were involved. in two directions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. These are quite comparable forces against the 30-thousandth armed forces of Georgia.

            Quote: avib
            58 army that stood ready to march and just waited for the order.

            Yeah. Do not make me laugh. Field Marshal Medvedev had a whole army in pairs !!! It was precisely on Medvedev's indecision that the main stake of the Washington strategists was. The calculation was that Putin at this time would be busy in Beijing at the opening of the Olympics, and Medvedev, in his absence, would simply let things go on the brakes. And by the end of the Olympics, South Ossetia will already fall. George W. Bush persistently tried in Beijing to persuade Putin to bring the issue to the UN Security Council meeting and wait for its decision, that is, do nothing while our peacekeepers and residents of Tskhinval are dying. Only after Putin's intervention began the advance of forces through the Roki tunnel.

            Quote: avib
            however, as in the Crimea in 14 year - the Ukrainians did not fit in their heads that it was possible to fight with the Russians).

            Strange, but in 2008, the Ukrainian calculations of the Bukovs did not prevent them from shooting down our pilots in Georgia.
            1. avib
              avib April 22 2021 06: 04
              -1
              Well, yes, Georgia started the war when its president was abroad and did not bomb the Roki tunnel first, but made it possible to transfer troops ...
              I, of course, do not consider Saakashvili and the General Staff of Georgia geniuses of strategy and tactics of warfare, but not to the same extent a country planning a war starts fighting so stupidly and ineptly.

              You have announced the Russian official version of events. I have the right to disagree with her and have my own point of view.
              1. English tarantas
                English tarantas April 22 2021 07: 07
                +1
                Finnish forests and swamps in winter are never Georgia.

                You can generally have any point of view and opinion, I personally do not judge. You may even think that in the Vyborg region in winter there are impassable snowdrifts and someone will climb into a swamp to fight, and all this is the reason for the failures of the beginning of the winter war.
              2. Sarboz
                Sarboz April 22 2021 10: 11
                0
                Quote: avib
                Well, yes, Georgia started the war when its president was abroad and did not bomb the Roki tunnel first of all ...

                Where was Mishiko at that time, don't you remind me? Yeah. To bomb the Roki tunnel is not a wiser solution. Defeating Russia in a military conflict is an empty and impossible task. Destruction of the tunnel would immediately prove Georgia's aggressive intentions. In the eyes of the world community, this would justify Russia's response. If the tunnel was blocked, we could land an assault force to save the battalion of peacekeepers and enter by land from other directions at once with more powerful groups. Therefore, no one beyond the Ocean pursued such a goal. And so the poor Georgian "reservists" were given a must and they labeled Russia as an aggressor, despite the indicative halt in the advance of troops to Tbilisi and the further withdrawal of the group.

                Quote: avib
                You have announced the Russian official version of events.

                According to the official version, Generalissimo Medvedev jumped on his horse, waved his saber and, in a dashing horse attack, overcame the foe. Until now, he gives interviews about his strategically wise and lightning-fast decisions.

                Quote: avib
                I have the right to disagree with her and have my own point of view.

                Duck and who deprives you of this right. In Russia, any enemy, any traitor has the right to speak. Broadcast. Only this is not your point of view. And we have been listening to all this since 2008 from Latynina and other "experts" on the Caucasus.
                1. avib
                  avib April 22 2021 11: 42
                  0
                  You are registered on the site since February. Do not know.
                  I am not a foe or a traitor - I do not live in Russia and I am not a citizen of Russia.
                  I look from the outside and "give a chance" to all possible versions and choose the one that seems more plausible to me - after all, everyone has their own truth.
                  Where was Mishiko at that time, don't you remind me?

                  Let me remind you that he was in Beijing at the opening of the Olympiad - like many world leaders.
                  Defeating Russia in a military conflict is an empty and impossible task.

                  For Georgia - in general, for mental patients. Anyway, WHO !!!!! in their right mind could attack a country with nuclear weapons !? Therefore, I somehow do not understand the militaristic adjenda in Russia - from whom to defend? Who will attack? NATO ?! NATO countries have so much to lose that they will never, under any circumstances, attack a country that can respond with a nuclear strike. And why should they attack. Russia as a sales market - 140 million with an official income of 30-36 thousand rubles a month - $ 400 is not a very tasty market (in the states it is about $ 4000 - 10 times higher), what Russia offers for sale NATO countries can easily buy (mainly natural resources and wheat) - no need to fight.
                  And so the poor Georgian "reservists" got the tinsel and stuck the label of the aggressor on Russia, in spite of the indicative stoppage of the advance of troops to Tbilisi and the further withdrawal of the group.

                  Well, they would have occupied Tbilisi, but at least the whole of Georgia.
                  Did the Georgians meet the Russian troops with flowers? Then what?

                  Everyone has their own truth and as a good joke says.

                  My point of view may not coincide with yours, the wrong one.


                  History will judge.
                  1. Sarboz
                    Sarboz April 22 2021 12: 14
                    0
                    Quote: avib
                    You are registered on the site since February. Do not know.

                    I have been reading this site regularly for several years. I am not interested in delving into your origin. Our enemies and traitors live not only in Russia. There are huge hordes of them that climb on our sites from Ukraine, the Baltic states, Israel, Canada. What do you all want from us?

                    Quote: avib
                    Let me remind you that he was in Beijing at the opening of the Olympiad - like many world leaders.

                    Eh, my head is full of holes. Forgotten to see. Mishiko turns out to be a world leader. And then, with my senile sclerosis, I was sure that this scum canceled its flight to Beijing on August 7 and already at 19.10 made a live TV address to the nation. And he was at this time in Beijing shook hands with Putin and apparently spoke in the recording. This is where the technique has come to. It turns out he also tasted a tie in a Beijing hotel. good

                    Quote: avib
                    Anyway, WHO !!!!! in their right mind could attack a country with nuclear weapons !?

                    Amateur look. In local conflicts, no one is embarrassed by nuclear weapons. The Americans knew approximately the result. But we received real intelligence about the possibilities of our deployment, the state of equipment, electronic warfare, etc. Most importantly, they labeled us a toxic country that we shouldn't talk to. But at the same time they lost several pieces of equipment with special equipment. This is a flight. I wonder why they didn't get these "civilian" Hummers back, after all, they were so indignant, so demanded?

                    Quote: avib
                    Well, they would have occupied Tbilisi, but at least the whole of Georgia.
                    Did the Georgians meet the Russian troops with flowers? Then what?

                    And who needs this Georgia? Just as we do not need Bandera's Ukraine. If, hypothetically, Ukraine is now annexed to Russia, the Banderaites will have to be fought with the same methods as after 1945. This headache is not for one year. Well, who needs it?

                    Quote: avib
                    History will judge.

                    He will certainly judge. therefore study history carefully... And history shows that Russia always comes out victorious, proving to the whole world that it is right.
                    1. avib
                      avib April 22 2021 12: 40
                      0
                      Let's wrap up this fruitless discussion.
                      1. Are you not interested in hearing an alternative point of view? The world is huge and not everyone speaks Russian.
                      2
                      Mishiko turns out to be a world leader.
                      Don't look at everyone high.
                      3.
                      In local conflicts, no one is embarrassed by nuclear weapons.

                      I'm not talking about Georgia but about NATO. A local conflict between the NATO countries and Russia? How do you imagine that? How can the Chinese fight the Hindus with bamboo sticks?
                      4.
                      And who needs this Georgia? Just as we do not need Bandera's Ukraine. If, hypothetically, Ukraine is now annexed to Russia, the Banderaites will have to be fought with the same methods as after 1945. This headache is not for one year. Well, who needs it?

                      Judging by the federal channels of Russian TV, Ukraine is the main and only topic in Russia. Ukraine is not needed - so leave it alone and that's it - let it do what it wants. And what does it mean "hypothetically to annex Ukraine to Russia"? - there is only one option - war and occupation. It seems to me that Ukrainians at this stage do not want to go to Russia, one might even say the opposite.
                      5.
                      He will certainly judge. Therefore, study the history carefully. And history shows that Russia always comes out victorious, proving to the whole world that it is right.

                      These are slogans.
                      You don't need to prove anything to anyone - live yourself and let others live. After all, Russia was left without friends and allies in the world - only the army and the navy. It is sad.
                    2. Sarboz
                      Sarboz April 22 2021 13: 08
                      0
                      Quote: avib
                      Let's wrap up this fruitless discussion.

                      So answer the uncomfortable questions.
                      Was Mishiko abroad at the opening of the Beijing Olympics?
                      Why was the omnipotent America not able to get us to return the captured Humvees, thereby admitting that it was involved in the conflict?
                      Why did we need a war with Georgia in order to annex a piece of Ossetian land in the mountains, why did not we annex it, why not all the territory passed to Tbilisi?

                      Quote: avib
                      I'm not talking about Georgia but about NATO. A local conflict between the NATO countries and Russia? How do you imagine that? How can the Chinese fight the Hindus with bamboo sticks?

                      So NATO is not going to fight with us with its own hands. They bite us with the help of dwarfs like Saakashvilli, Zelensky. Well, the example of China and India with bamboo sticks is completely out of topic. Two huge countries with powerful nuclear-armed armies. What kind of sticks are there. And nothing, somehow, until they jumped over each other.

                      Quote: avib
                      Ukraine is not needed - so leave it alone and that's it - let him do what he wants.

                      For what reason? They are trying to destroy the Russian population in the Donbass and we must leave this Bandera government alone. This will not happen. They will poke their attention to Donbass and will be "forced to peace" like Mishiko.

                      Quote: avib
                      And what does it mean "hypothetically to annex Ukraine to Russia"? - there is only one option - war and occupation.

                      Yes, because hypothetically, it is people like you who impose on us the point of view that we are trying to grab Ukraine. Bandera's Ukraine did not surrender to us for nothing.
  • Guru
    Guru April 20 2021 19: 19
    +15
    According to Saakashvili, if there is a war between Russia and Ukraine, then "Kiev will only have to relax and have fun."
    He swam - he knows laughing
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose April 20 2021 19: 30
      +9
      Quote: Guru
      He swam - he knows

      Well, Duc, for one beaten two unbeaten give. The trouble is that in our time there are few beaten, but many unbeaten. But this is fixable.
  • Borik
    Borik April 20 2021 19: 19
    +7
    The West also promised Georgia military aid in 2008, but we never got it.


    The Georgians speak clever words, so listen to him Ukrainians.
    1. hohohol
      hohohol April 20 2021 19: 27
      +6
      Quote: Borik
      The Georgians speak clever words, so listen to him Ukrainians.

      "Kiev will only have to relax and have fun"
      1. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 20 2021 19: 45
        +4
        Quote: hohohol
        Quote: Borik
        The Georgians speak clever words, so listen to him Ukrainians.

        "Kiev will only have to relax and have fun"

        It was his Odesites who taught him how to joke yes ex-governor, ex-president smile
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev April 20 2021 19: 30
      +4
      He did not say correctly, rather it should have been like this:
      "I was just thinking to myself that Georgia interests someone so much that this someone wants to fight with Russia, what was I like, but why was I? But nevertheless I am quite well-off"
    3. Baloo
      Baloo April 20 2021 19: 32
      +2
      Quote: Borik
      The West also promised Georgia military aid in 2008, but we never got it.


      The Georgians speak clever words, so listen to him Ukrainians.

      And the tie was wasted ... belay
    4. alexmach
      alexmach April 20 2021 19: 35
      +5
      miracles and more!
      Does the rule apply to him that as soon as he retired, he immediately began to say adequate things? Although most likely this is not the case. It is simply convenient for him to criticize the current government from such a position and pave his way in politics with his elbows ...
      1. Egoza
        Egoza April 20 2021 20: 44
        +1
        Quote: alexmach
        It is simply convenient for him to criticize the current government from such a position and pave his way in politics with his elbows ...

        Please note that he already has nowhere to run. Now, if that ... he will be the first to meet the Russian army with flowers in Kiev. And there .... maybe, as a trusted comrade, they will also be elected somewhere.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 20 2021 21: 06
          +2
          Please note that he already has nowhere to run.

          Come on nowhere. Vaughn went to Europe. Id-card with a Dutch residence permit was waving in front of the camera. I think there will always be something to do for such a valuable staff.
        2. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose April 20 2021 22: 17
          0
          Quote: Egoza
          And there ... maybe, as a trusted friend, they will also be elected somewhere

          Yeah. To the delegation for cultural exchange with South Ossetia.
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev April 20 2021 19: 28
    +3
    Everyone hears what he wants to hear. No one has ever promised either Georgia or now Ukraine to help in the event of a war.
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 19: 30
    +6
    His tie is beautiful ...
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 April 20 2021 19: 45
      +5
      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
      His tie is beautiful ...

      No matter. If only it was tasty ...
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 19: 52
        +1
        No matter. If only it was tasty ...

        Yes, it's not for us to chew it! Don't care the taste, even though his picture will be beautiful)
        Damn, now Trump needs to stir up, send the current one to Kiev and Joe Ze Sa will be in Ukraine, they will tear up any scene, a full house is guaranteed
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 April 20 2021 20: 21
          +1
          Quote: Ruslan Sulima
          Yes, it's not for us to chew it!

          good
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich April 20 2021 20: 07
        0
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Quote: Ruslan Sulima
        His tie is beautiful ...

        No matter. If only it was tasty ...
        With the right "sauce" you can eat the whole three piece suit...
        together with panties and socks
        yes
    2. Clear
      Clear April 20 2021 19: 46
      +3
      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
      His tie is beautiful ...

      Not one beautiful tie will save the criminal Saakashvili. He still, bastard, did not answer for our dead guys.
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 20: 06
        -2
        Not one beautiful tie will save the criminal Saakashvili. He still, bastard, did not answer for our dead guys.

        Come on, I would love to watch the performance of such comrades as Turchynov, Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk at the Donetsk Opera House. Young lady Tymoshenko would also like to see, she would show a drift in a wheelchair .. And let them talk about Orthodox creatures and repent, bowing with their foreheads on the stage .. And then women (I apologize), women and girls left without men, let them go here will already be tryndets.
        It became interesting to me. Ukrainians, how will you behave?
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke April 20 2021 20: 18
        0
        Quote: Clear
        Not one beautiful tie will save the criminal Saakashvili. He still, bastard, did not answer for our dead guys.

        If a scarf "saves" from responsibility, then a tie can save.
      3. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 April 20 2021 20: 22
        +2
        Quote: Clear
        Not one beautiful tie will save the criminal Saakashvili.

        Hemp is waiting ...
        1. Clear
          Clear April 20 2021 20: 24
          +3
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Quote: Clear
          Not one beautiful tie will save the criminal Saakashvili.

          Hemp is waiting ...

          He gnawed it on himself.
      4. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 20 2021 22: 20
        +1
        Quote: Clear
        He still, bastard, did not answer for our dead guys.

        Therefore, of all the ties, hemp would suit him best.
      5. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 22: 23
        +1
        Not one beautiful tie will save the criminal Saakashvili. He still, bastard, did not answer for our dead guys.

        eh Clear-obscure, are you ready to kill? Not even that, can you kill?
    3. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell April 20 2021 19: 54
      +3
      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
      His tie is beautiful ...

      The main thing is to be edible ... lol
    4. Lvalentin
      Lvalentin April 20 2021 20: 11
      +1
      ... and definitely delicious.
  • Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin April 20 2021 19: 31
    +9
    In Ukraine, Saakashvili's statements have been criticized. It is stated that "the West will definitely help Ukraine and will not leave it alone in the face of Russian aggression."

    An interesting twist.
    1. If there is an aggression by Russia, the West will definitely help. But this is after the aggression ...
    2. Official Kiev is constantly repeating about the invasion of Russia in the Donbass, i.e. about the aggression that took place ...
    3. If the aggression has taken place, but the West has not been helping for all 7 years, why does it suddenly start helping at the 8th year?
    4. If the West does not help, maybe there is no such aggression of Russia, but there is a Civil War?
    5. So who is lying here, Kiev about the Russian aggression or the West about the fact that it will not leave Ukraine without help?
    Or are both of them lying?
    1. Clear
      Clear April 20 2021 19: 49
      +5
      Quote: Captain Pushkin
      Or both lie?

      Without "Or" stop
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 20: 23
        0
        Without "Or" stop

        Smiled) How many times have already been said, let's do it without or ... Since 2013, when it just began ...
        They do not understand whether we came in the end or we ourselves or you will have nothing left ...
    2. Lvalentin
      Lvalentin April 20 2021 19: 57
      +3
      Both lie. However, Ukraine should look closely to the west. Russia sent nah, China sent nah, Iran sent nah, North Korea sent nah, you know little Venezuela ?, also sent nah! So it goes, and some kind of Honduras will send west tries. The West will no longer be at war somewhere. It is very expensive and not profitable and it is not popular among the population, despite the propaganda. In reality, the population of Ukraine will also not support the war and will overthrow it. For smart Kiev, we urgently need to sit down at the negotiating table and agree on a quick deal, as long as Putin is kind. And all the mongrels of the West bark at Russia solving selfish interests, they will not bark, the owner will not feed.
      1. poquello
        poquello April 20 2021 20: 29
        +2
        Quote: Lvalentin
        as it goes, some kind of Honduras will send the west

        Bolivia sent the most beautiful of all, Morales, on a coup unscrewed, sat out and back on a white horse, knows his Indians, a hammer
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 20 2021 19: 37
    +3
    In Ukraine, Saakashvili's statements have been criticized. It is stated that "the West will definitely help Ukraine and will not leave it alone in the face of Russian aggression." In particular, this phrase from Joe Biden is quoted, which amused Mikhail Saakashvili to a great extent. He remembered that the aforementioned George W. Bush had promised him the same.
    ... Well, as it happens, chewing a tie did him good, in the end!
    1. Lvalentin
      Lvalentin April 20 2021 20: 08
      +2
      Conclusion: you had to chew before, not after.
    2. cniza
      cniza April 20 2021 21: 25
      +2
      What about? it's time for him to write his memoirs ...
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 19: 39
    +2
    And so the situation is already turning into insanity ...
    It remains for Barak to speak, the BLM leaders, the heads of unidentified tribes on the Amazon, and there will be a complete set ...
    Well done VVP, even though you can gather the whole world for a conversation)
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 20 2021 19: 43
    +2
    The ex-president of Georgia and the ex-head of the Odessa State Administration of Ukraine said that he would not wish anything like this to anyone.

    Che, the tie turned out to be tasteless?
    The then US President George W. Bush also did not provide military assistance to Georgia. Saakashvili also draws attention to this.

    Shvili! George sent the toilet paper. Lot!
  • Der Spiegel
    Der Spiegel April 20 2021 20: 02
    -7
    In the absence of air defense at the Georgians, they somehow managed to land six combat aircraft of the Russian Air Force. These are the data of Ruslan Pukhov, director of the CAST RF. The ukrov still have fragments of the Soviet air defense in the form of a sufficiently echeloned and organized defense. As the air defense of the Armed Forces, so the air defense of the Armed Forces of the Land. So an easy walk will not work, there are no options.
    1. Lvalentin
      Lvalentin April 20 2021 20: 17
      +1
      Nobody is going to walk, they will erase everything because of the cordon.
    2. poquello
      poquello April 20 2021 20: 33
      +3
      Quote: Der Spiegel
      In the absence of air defense at the Georgians, they somehow managed to land six combat aircraft of the Russian Air Force. These are the data of Ruslan Pukhov, director of the CAST RF. The ukrov still have fragments of the Soviet air defense in the form of a sufficiently echeloned and organized defense. As the air defense of the Armed Forces, so the air defense of the Armed Forces of the Land. So an easy walk will not work, there are no options.

      You even smoke the topic sometimes, Yushchenko quietly transferred the Khokhlop air defense to Georgia, Jews and Americans prepared a lot of surprises there then but did not help
      1. Der Spiegel
        Der Spiegel April 20 2021 20: 46
        -5
        it's not air defense, it's a misunderstanding. I smoked the topic very well in due time. That is why I indicated "no", because a dozen or two "beeches" and several "wasps" of any weather a priori, based on a given coverage area, could not constitute a real threat to Russian aviation.
  • SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow April 20 2021 20: 09
    +2
    He misleads everyone. The United States sent help, albeit with a delay, but I think toilet paper and water came in handy. Humor in the United States is still the same.
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich April 20 2021 20: 42
      +1
      But what a mean. The toilet paper came in very handy for them. This was the ,, help ,, NATO.)
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin April 20 2021 20: 28
    0
    It looks like a tie with vitamins was given out before the broadcast) And it even helped - consciousness returned for a short time))
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 20 2021 20: 33
    +1
    Saakashvili on Ukrainian TV: the West promised Georgia military aid in 2008, but we never got it
    for that he ate his tie and lay in the bushes
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra April 20 2021 20: 38
    +2
    Well, for example - and not to see BEFORE zero of the eighth zero of the eighth year - Sobakoshvili yapped something for the NATO standardization of the Georgian army, for what reason would Georgia from the Russian Federation do something like not look?)))
    And then Tbilisi did not take the tie just because they managed to reach the motorbikes, but that's all - don't slow down the betra - that's it, you have nowhere to eat a tie)
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 20 2021 20: 40
    +1
    Mishiko is a specialist in these matters.
  • Tagan
    Tagan April 20 2021 20: 44
    0
    Quote: avib
    Saakashvili speaks Ukrainian very well - he graduated from Lviv University. His Ukrainian is better than the Ukrainian majority of Ukrainian politicians.

    Actually, to boast of victory over Georgia ..... The Rottweiler will easily break the poodle, but with the Alabai it is unlikely to ride.

    It was just an indicative spanking. What kind of "Alabai" is this, which is capable only of inciting packs of jackals, and for some reason is afraid of a direct collision?
  • Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 April 20 2021 20: 50
    +1
    If Mishka is not "lustrated" now for SUCH words addressed to "light elves", then they will blame Petrov and Bashirov.
  • Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 April 20 2021 21: 17
    +1
    They also hinted to Sadama Hussein about Kuwait that there would be no complaints: take as much as you can take away! And then somehow it didn't end well ... No.
    Nothing personal, so to speak!
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 20 2021 21: 17
    +2
    Learn history to the disenfranchised. How did the Americans open the second front? Until they realized that the winner was determined and would do without them, they pushed their way to the division of the trophies. winked Neither Georgia nor Ukraine had a chance for a second front. Comedian, fill your tie with marinade, otherwise you will choke on a dirty dry rag like Mishiko. laughing
  • cniza
    cniza April 20 2021 21: 23
    +1
    In Ukraine, Saakashvili's statements have been criticized. It is stated that “the West will definitely help Ukraine


    Oh, it will help, so then it will not be happy ...
  • north 2
    north 2 April 20 2021 21: 26
    0
    relax and have fun, so Mishiko offers the Bandera authorities if they do in Donbass the way Saakashvili did in Ossetia and Abkhazia. Oh, Misha, and if the bolt
    will not be in comparison with a larger thread than the one that was screwed into you, that even a tie
    swallowed what a pleasure it is ... However, the very proposal of the man to relax and get
    thus pleasure will be accepted with understanding by all current liberals and all sorts of other Rastas. Very European proposal ...
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  • ROSS_51
    ROSS_51 April 20 2021 22: 36
    0
    In Ukraine, Saakashvili's statements have been criticized. It is stated that "the West will definitely help Ukraine and will not leave it alone in the face of Russian aggression."

    It’s like in a drunken stupor, and it’s scary to sober up, because you have to realize that neither Europe nor the States have interests in Ukraine for which they would start fighting a nuclear power.
  • svoit
    svoit April 20 2021 23: 11
    +1
    Is he being modest, did the US help with the transfer of Georgian troops from the NATO troops in Iraq, or does he think they flew in on Georgian planes?
    (by the way, Russia then screwed up without shooting down more than one plane)
    1. Konstantin Gogolev
      Konstantin Gogolev April 21 2021 00: 55
      +1
      Oxides. To shoot down NATO planes for no reason is .... extremely unconstructive. So we will not come to a consensus). Consider that they just threw us trophies then - Hammers then, probably, even fell in price in the Caucasus.
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 21 2021 00: 23
    0
    No, Mishiko, this is different, you don't understand ...
  • Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 21 2021 00: 47
    +2
    All this is strange. It seems that he said the right words - sobering for the Ukrainians. But everyone knows that he is a mercenary for the State Department. Why are these words transferred from the State Department? Wants to concentrate moderates around him? It is clear that nifiga is not clear. In the morning the Czechs are going to throw themselves diplomats again. I read that the APU mined everything, prepared the second echelon of defense, hid the equipment. Ze invited Putin to meet in Donbass. The striped men are dramatically selling their European soccer top clubs.

    One thing is clear - we must expect the next trap.
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 21 2021 03: 48
    0
    It’s you Misha in vain - they are in the sweat of their brows, they “breached” Russia for a whole year.
  • Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 April 21 2021 04: 36
    0
    She was crying badly -shvilidze, you have to crawl on your knees like crazy and kiss the slivers
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 21 2021 05: 10
    0
    At least in some ways, Mishan is great .. He made a direct offer to Kuev - “Kiev will only have to relax and have fun.”
  • English tarantas
    English tarantas April 21 2021 06: 08
    0
    the ex-head of the Odessa State Administration of Ukraine said that he would not wish anything like this to anyone.

    And because you have to choose not beautiful ties, but tasty ones.
    In August 2008, we did not receive any military assistance.

    Did he really think that he would be helped by the army or did he turn on the fool? And what a mountain of NATO weapons is not enough for him? (too lazy now to look for a photo with a mountain m16 / 4)
  • Irek
    Irek April 21 2021 07: 53
    0
    They will help, they will send plastic coffins.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 21 2021 08: 59
    0
    Georgia is better armed on a combat unit than Ukraine ..... Ukraine with such an approach would be a formidable power
    1. nemez
      nemez April 22 2021 09: 19
      0
      Would have sold it still without receiving it, a formidable power))
  • Andrey Mansurov
    Andrey Mansurov April 21 2021 13: 18
    0
    There was support. They just didn't want to fight instead of Georgians. As well as financial and material (all weapons, equipment, special equipment, uniforms, food supplies, and much more). More intelligence. But this is not the main thing. The main thing is the political support of the Medvedevs for this war (the drain, as he leaked Gaddafi), when Putin relaxed at the Olympics in China. After all, Dima did not give the order to the 64th for a whole day. They all thought they could do it in a day. We failed. He would not have given the order on the second day (watch his speech: "we will wait"), if not for the Russian peacekeepers and the Ossetian militia. And when columns of volunteers came from Vladikavkaz, they, Dima and Vova, had no choice left. Our guys and the people of Ossetia won then.
  • Armen Sologyan
    Armen Sologyan April 21 2021 14: 07
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    The United States only provokes other countries, and itself only exposes sanctions and provocations as an exceptional coward. The latest provocation of the United States is its coronavirus, spread through China as a country whose citizens come to Russia as tourists, in the hope that Russia will not be able to cope with the pandemic. Russia would not have coped with the pandemic if we did not have such a President of the Russian Federation as Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and such a Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation as Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu. It is to the Ministry of Defense, as well as the FSB and the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation, that we owe the successful Victory over the coronavirus, and to some Russian citizens who visit some of the countries in which this coronavirus raged, we owe the arrival of waves of coronavirus !!!
  • bk316
    bk316 April 21 2021 16: 41
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    Of course they will send help. Large black plastic bags. Lot....
  • svoit
    svoit April 22 2021 08: 41
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    Quote: Konstantin Gogolev
    Oxides. To shoot down NATO planes for no reason is ... highly unconstructive

    I just didn’t begin to explain how it should be done, so that everyone would think that this was done by the Georgian partisans fighting for freedom, they can even throw a stinger, and over Turkey it is possible, the people there also want freedom
  • Russobel
    Russobel April 22 2021 18: 10
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    Misha told the truth at least here.
    Probably I realized that the current government is a skiff and it is necessary to cling to the new one.