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Kiev intends to purchase two British Sandown-class minesweepers

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The naval forces of Ukraine can be replenished with minesweepers. According to the Ukrainian military portal, Kiev will already enter negotiations on the purchase of mine defense ships.


According to reports, the Navy can replenish its composition with British minesweepers of the Sandown type, a series of which became part of the Royal fleet Great Britain from 1989 to 2001. As follows from the publication, ships are planned for purchase precisely from the presence of the British Navy, and not a new building. In total, they want to purchase two mine action ships in Kiev.

Since Ukraine does not have its own funds for the purchase, the minesweepers will also be purchased at the expense of a loan that will be provided to the Ukrainian Navy by all that Great Britain. The cost of the proposed purchase has not been disclosed.

It is noted that minesweepers of the Sandown type are in service not only with Great Britain, but also with two other countries - Estonia and Saudi Arabia. The naval forces of each of these countries are armed with three minesweepers of this project.

A feature of these ships is the absence of the possibility of trawling, the main purpose is to search for and destroy sea mines using remotely controlled search vehicles.

Performance characteristics of Sandown-class anti-mine ships: full displacement - 484 tons, length - 52,6 meters, width - 10,5 meters, draft - 2,4 meters. Installed 2 diesels Paxman Valenta 6RP200E with electric drive, diesel speed - up to 13 knots, on electric traction - 6,5 knots.

Armament - anti-aircraft machine gun of 30 mm caliber, 7,62 mm machine guns. Special equipment for finding mines, including a towed GAS.
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https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk
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  1. Avior
    Avior April 20 2021 15: 00
    +6
    Despite the fact that they are 30 years old, they remain very modern ships - fiberglass non-magnetic hull, remote mine detecting devices, GAS, the possibility of a towed GAS, the possibility of an electric ship - the British once made ships for the future.
    Estonians refurbished electronics in due time and received very modern ships.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 20 2021 15: 04
      -3


      And what will it give them? Why are they so straining their navel? They jump straight out of their trousers.
      1. NIKN
        NIKN April 20 2021 15: 10
        +1
        Amazing people, their shipbuilding industry has completely pumped, and now there are some attempts ..., and even with pathos, I do not believe that they will be able to exploit this as it should ...
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 20 2021 17: 46
          0
          Quote: NIKNN
          Amazing people, their shipbuilding industry was completely pumped,

          But how it sounds! "We buy"! Oh, these are a lot of plans!
      2. Avior
        Avior April 20 2021 15: 40
        +1
        Minesweepers and patrolmen are the backbone of all operations at sea.
        1. alexniko77
          alexniko77 April 21 2021 10: 07
          -2
          yeah, and most importantly, a good addition to the boats and rubber boats of the navy # rzhunimagu zhovto-blakitnyh
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 20 2021 16: 10
        -1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        And what will it give them?

        Let's estimate. drinks The ships are over 20 years old. The armament is symbolic. There is no possibility of trawling. Not suitable for fishing. And what mines can you look for in the Black and Azov Seas? The trough is being sold to them on credit. Most likely, you will have to give away by ceding territory.
        So, what will this deal give them hemorrhoids, albeit with a smell of the sea breeze. Well, rollback to those involved.
        1. Avior
          Avior April 20 2021 20: 17
          0
          The ships are under 30 years old, this is so, only in terms of capabilities they approximately correspond to the newest Russian minesweepers pr12700 Alexandrite and which should in the future become the basis of the anti-mine forces of the Russian Navy, and even then, pr12700 does not have an electric ship, like an Englishman.
          A trawl can pull and a trawler or seiner, if necessary, can, and these are ships of a completely different class and level.
          And about mines on the Black Sea coast - see "Allegro with fire"
          These mines are still being pulled from the bottom.
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose April 20 2021 21: 24
            0
            Quote: Avior
            only in terms of capabilities they approximately correspond to the latest Russian minesweepers pr12700 Alexandrite and which should in the future become the basis of the anti-mine forces of the Russian Navy

            Yes, even if they are at least three times superior to "Alexandrite". Why does Ukraine need minesweepers? Whose mines is Ukraine going to look for in its waters? The version that they are going at their own expense (free of charge, that is, for nothing) to clean the Black and Azov seas from WW2 mines, I will believe only after Bigfoot is caught. My opinion: there is a purchase of absolutely useless ships for Ukraine on credit, which will be given, if not by A.S. Pushkin, then T.G. Shevchenko. Impudent sell trash, even the loss of which as a result of capture by the enemy, i.e. The Russian Navy is absolutely painless for the seller.
            1. Avior
              Avior April 20 2021 21: 35
              0
              Whose mines is Ukraine going to look for in its waters?

              Whose options are few. Obviously not Japanese. Do you know what MDM and SMDM are and why are they used?
              The MDM type sea bottom mine is equipped with an explosive charge, a 3-channel combined fuse with an acoustic-electromagnetic-hydrodynamic principle of action, which reacts to the acoustic, electromagnetic and hydrodynamic [2] fields of the target ship, as well as urgency devices [3], multiplicity [4] and elimination [5].

              This is what such minesweepers are for.
              1. Polite Moose
                Polite Moose April 20 2021 21: 44
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                Quote: Avior
                This is what such minesweepers are for.

                I roughly imagine what minesweepers are for. But, if I understand you correctly, do you seriously think that our Navy will need to lock the Ukrainian armada in the bays by setting minefields? And they neutralized the threat in the bud by buying 2 vessels? And now all our naval doctrine is going to hell? Has the HPP failed?
                1. Avior
                  Avior April 20 2021 22: 49
                  +2
                  Anything can happen. A port blockade can occur for a variety of reasons. For this, the mines of the hidden setting were invented. And far from only to neutralize the armada, as you write. If there are mines, then there is always the possibility that they are being used.
                  1. Polite Moose
                    Polite Moose April 20 2021 22: 56
                    -3
                    Quote: Avior
                    Anything can happen. A port blockade can occur for a variety of reasons. For this, the mines of the hidden setting were invented.

                    Everything you say is absolutely true. But, to a possible military confrontation between Ukraine and Russia, it is hardly applicable. It just won't come to mines. It won't even reach torpedoes. hi
                    1. Avior
                      Avior April 20 2021 22: 59
                      +2
                      Who knows how it will turn.
                      Ten years ago, no one could have imagined the current situation in a nightmare.
                      hi
                      1. Polite Moose
                        Polite Moose April 20 2021 23: 20
                        -3
                        Quote: Avior
                        Who knows how it will turn.

                        Do you seriously believe in the readiness of the ukrovoyak to lay down their heads for the native Ukraine? Read about the mood among Ukrainian youth of draft age regarding participation in the database in Donbass. I don’t think there are other moods in the UVMF. The cruiser "Varyag" no one will pretend to be.
                      2. Avior
                        Avior April 20 2021 23: 34
                        -1
                        Do you seriously believe in the readiness of the ukrovoyak to lay down their heads for the native Ukraine? Read about the mood among Ukrainian youth of draft age regarding participation in the database in Donbass

                        Actually, we are talking about something completely different. And it's not about immediate problems. Who knows what will happen next and how the situation will turn. In any case, minesweepers are the basis of the basics.
                        And about what you wrote, I do not believe that in Ukraine there are many who want to fight now for the return of the LPNR under Ukrainian control, because of what you wrote as well. There are other reasons as well. I am sure that Kiev understands this very well.
                        hi
                      3. Polite Moose
                        Polite Moose April 21 2021 07: 27
                        -1
                        Quote: Avior
                        Who knows what will happen next and how the situation will turn.

                        If these minesweepers were bought by Vietnam, Egypt, or Argentina there, I would have reacted with understanding. Minesweepers are definitely needed. But, whatever one may say, they are needed where they are needed. Their main task is to find and neutralize mines. For Ukrainian minesweepers - search for Russian mines. And I can hardly imagine that our Navy will have to resort to mining exits from the Ukrainian naval base or conducting mine sabotage in Ukrainian ports. There is not much left of the former fleet. So little that the ships based in the Crimea were almost forcibly returned to them. I’m almost sure that it wouldn’t come to mines if something happened. It would be much more useful for Ukraine to buy border and search and rescue ships. Or try to restore their own production.
                        And what will happen next? Anything, but not the growing of the West from Ukraine as a great maritime power or the leader of the European economy. If we hypothetically assume that Ukraine will be admitted to NATO, then slightly other ships will enter its ports. And these two minesweepers will only occupy a place near the wall.
                      4. Avior
                        Avior April 21 2021 07: 33
                        -2
                        Mining the base is a convenient option not to release ships and vessels, without carrying out active actions.
                        That is, they mined and said that they were mined, self-destruction in a week, for example.
                        Nobody knows what will happen next.
                        If mines are in service, then the logical answer is to acquire minesweepers.
                        hi
                      5. Polite Moose
                        Polite Moose April 21 2021 08: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Avior
                        Mining the base is a convenient option not to release ships and vessels, without carrying out active actions.

                        I totally agree.
                        Quote: Avior
                        If mines are in service, then the logical answer is to acquire minesweepers.

                        Absolutely undeniable.
                        But I can't imagine a picture: "During the hostilities, heroic Ukrainian minesweepers went out to sea with impunity and shoot Russian mines in their native waters." hi
                      6. Avior
                        Avior April 21 2021 11: 42
                        0
                        mines can be found directly in the area covered from the coast - for example, leaving the base. And they will be there, so the consumption of mines is less.
                      7. Polite Moose
                        Polite Moose April 21 2021 11: 52
                        -1
                        Quote: Avior
                        mines can be found directly in the area

                        Yes, you are so drowning for mines? What kind of fleet (armada) will we need to lock up with mines at the base? Okay, they will remove the mines. Where will this very fleet go? To besiege the Crimea, to support the landing? How far will he go? Are ukrovoenmores so stupid as not to answer these and similar questions to themselves?
                      8. Avior
                        Avior April 21 2021 13: 04
                        +2
                        ... to support the landing?

                        Or vice versa.
                        We do not know how to predict the future, so I don’t see what to argue about next.
                        hi
                      9. Polite Moose
                        Polite Moose April 21 2021 13: 08
                        0
                        Quote: Avior
                        We do not know how to predict the future, so I don’t see what to argue about next.

                        Yeah. Our discussion dragged on. But I was very happy to communicate. hi
  • Simon
    Simon April 20 2021 16: 12
    0
    As follows from the publication, ships are planned for purchase precisely from the presence of the British Navy, and not a new construction. In total, they want to acquire two mine action ships in Kiev.

    Well, Estonia bought only three ships - this is a strong fleet! And Ukraine is already all in credits. Interestingly, the only question is - when they will give their debts, all this will fall on the people of Ukraine, there will still be enough for the descendants of several generations to pay off. fool recourse
  • For example
    For example April 20 2021 15: 02
    -7
    NATO members for a permanent presence in the Black Sea could fictitiously sell the fleet to the Ukrainian fascists.
    For a hundred bucks, re-register the ships for ukrov and surf the Black Sea under the flag of dill without thus violating Montreux.

    But apparently they understand that there are scumbags.

    And apparently they realize that the Russians are categorically against it. Until the disappearance of such a country as dill.

    And to sell what he wanted to throw out is sacred for any huckster. wassat
    Utilization of money asks, and then there is a chance to patch up. good laughing
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 20 2021 15: 24
      -3
      Ukraine will be stupidly substituted and divided. While everything goes to this.
      ... In the army circles of Ukraine, they are seriously afraid of a hot conflict with Russia, knowing full well that it will not end with anything good for the zhovto-blakitnykh. The leader of the Slavic Guard movement Vladimir Rogov said this to EADaily with reference to well-informed sources in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The expert talked about what is happening at the Ukrainian front line, who will act as blocking detachments in case the army units controlled by Kiev suddenly want to leave the front echelon, and also why the current President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky is afraid of starting a full-scale war in the east.

      According to Vladimir Rogov, the West is preparing a major provocation, the purpose of which is not even to "pacify" Donetsk and Luhansk, but huge casualties among the Ukrainian military, who, in the event of an aggravation of the situation, can be thrown into a new Donbass cauldron, but without the right to retreat.

      “Several sources in the Armed Forces of Ukraine turned to me and asked me to tell you that a terrible tragedy was impending,” says Rogov. “That’s what it was said to me:“ Sound it out, do whatever you want, the main thing is that there is no war. Otherwise we will all lie down here "".



      .According to the army experts of the neighboring country, many in the Armed Forces of Ukraine today perfectly understand how the militant rhetoric that the West has been pumping up against Donbass and, of course, Russia itself can end. As they say, the Ukrainian army units are already on the front line, they are mostly armed poorly, the equipment is old. Behind them are Turkish, Polish and Georgian PMCs, and the third line is occupied by NATO members, also disguised as PMCs.

      Each subsequent row is much better prepared and armed. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have a clear understanding that in which case they will be thrown into the slaughterhouse in the form of cannon fodder. According to the scenario, there should be a lot of victims in order to make it clear that the "Russian military" without pity destroys the valiant Ukrainian warriors who defend their native land. Later, Western journalists should appear there - CNN, BBC, Voice of America (foreign media, acts as a foreign agent. - EADaily), Turkish Anadolu, Qatari Al-Jazeera - in order to present the whole "truth" to the world. In general, their main task is to shed blood and cause even greater hatred of Russia.



      the morale of the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine today is not much better than it was several years ago. Many military men are afraid of a serious war, some of the most intoxicated warriors are still ready to plunder, but most importantly, most of the soldiers and officers are not ready to die in Donbass.

      “It is enough to look at the number of non-combat losses. One of the last cases when a soldier literally blew half his head out of a machine gun under the cheers of his colleagues. Or when one AFU militant killed another and then committed suicide. Self-explosions continue and so on. We see that over these 7 years, by and large, practically nothing has changed and it has only gotten worse - in terms of the permissiveness of the complete absence of any subordination or battle formation. That is, these people are ready to kill and rob, but they are not ready to die, ”said the leader of the Slavic Guard movement.

      https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/04/07/voennosluzhashchie-ukrainy-my-ne-hotim-umirat-ili-chemodan-dlya-zelenskogo
      1. Avior
        Avior April 20 2021 20: 51
        0
        said the leader of the movement "Slavic Guard" Vladimir Rogov

        Prince Vova Rogov from Baburka has been a well-known person for a long time.
        A friend of Putin, Medvedev, Zhirinovsky and the Gandhi family.

        https://kto.zp.ua/person/737/Рогов-Владимир-Валерьевич.html

        And now, it means that the APU turned to him.
        Oh well....
        1. Holgerton
          Holgerton April 21 2021 02: 07
          0
          A person has a clinic, his APU did not just apply, but also merged the fact of finding all possible PMCs at once together with stealth NATO members and that's it.
          it was told by his exclusive sources exclusively to him.
          Behind them are Turkish, Polish and Georgian PMCs, and the third line is occupied by NATO members, also disguised as PMCs.

          The news was apparently composed together with the authors of the "dancing blacks".
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 20 2021 15: 04
    -1
    Fresh boats. 1989, not 1899 as usual. I suspect that in honor of such a global strengthening of the "fleet" at least 3 new admirals will appear in the race.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 20 2021 15: 05
      -1
      .not less than 3 new admirals will appear.

      For every boat.
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 20 2021 15: 53
      -1
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      there will be at least 3 new admirals.

      No, well, people understand the measure, this is not a cruiser, so the maximum counter-admirals!
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat April 20 2021 15: 55
        -3
        Two vice admirals and a full admiral. And then the rear admirals, the commanders of the armored vehicles, will be indignant. They zhezh "fought", the toilet bowls were lost in bloody battles.
        1. Mini Mokik
          Mini Mokik April 20 2021 20: 25
          -1
          admiralSuch Admirals?

          PS The actor was just awesome! In my opinion Lloyd Bridges.
  • Pereira
    Pereira April 20 2021 15: 08
    +1
    This is exactly what they lacked.
  • cniza
    cniza April 20 2021 15: 13
    0
    It is noted that minesweepers of the Sandown type are in service not only with Great Britain, but also with two other countries - Estonia and Saudi Arabia. The naval forces of each of these countries are armed with three minesweepers of this project.


    It turns out that the Estonian fleet is larger than the Ukrainian fleet - they have completely sunk ...
  • WHAT IS
    WHAT IS April 20 2021 15: 19
    +7
    A feature of these ships is the absence of the possibility of trawling, the main purpose is to search for and destroy sea mines using remotely controlled search vehicles.
    Not quite so, there, in addition to the usual trawl, which drags through the water and detonates mines, the Sendown-type ships use an ELF / microwave mine search GAS (type 2093 PGP with five antenna arrays, lowered from the chamber in the hull), and then they can use two underwater vehicles with remote control PAP104 Mod 5 (RCMDS 2 system) for the destruction of mines with high-explosive charges. He only searches for mines and neutralizes them, he cannot place them himself, that's all the difference from multi-purpose mine-sweeping ships.
    1. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov April 20 2021 15: 49
      0
      Ships for a coastal maritime country - mines and minesweepers in priority wink
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 20 2021 15: 27
    -1
    And that the Ukrainians have surrendered their miracle yards on metal, wonderful owners. We ourselves build minesweepers and not only minesweepers. And sell the yachts of your oligarchs, you will build such a fleet.
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich April 20 2021 15: 33
    -1
    "To purchase" ?! Are you seriously???? :-)))))))
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 15: 42
    -3
    As a hydroacoustician of mine detecting stations, I can say to Ukraine - stupid, but buy, there will be less money for us ...
    1. Vovk
      Vovk April 20 2021 16: 00
      -5
      As far as I understand, the British and Americans finally saw the underwater mines of the times of the USSR live. That only the sea does not throw out on the Black Sea coast. Therefore, the conversation began about British minesweepers.
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 16: 11
        -7
        As I understand it,

        Honestly from a minesweeper) It was crappy at the KCHF, it was (when I served), but not to the same extent, this is a basic minesweeper, in fact a boat ...
        1. Ruslan Sulima
          Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 17: 46
          -3
          Well, good luck to you, the Naval Forces, with a bargain, tryndets ...
        2. Ruslan Sulima
          Ruslan Sulima April 20 2021 18: 43
          -2
          Honestly from the minesweeper)


          Between 1991 and 1997, three similar ships were delivered to Saudi Arabia in accordance with an order placed in November 1988. These ships were named "Al-Jawf", "Shakra" and "Al-Kharj", and their paired 30-mm AU "Emerlek" are approximately similar in their capabilities to the single-channel AU installed on the British TSCHM.
          In 1989, Spain signed an agreement on the transfer of technology to it for the construction of a modified version of the Sandown-class ships designed by the Spanish company Bazan (currently Isar, Cartagena). The first four in the proposed series of 12 ships were ordered in 1993 and handed over to the Navy in 1999-2000. Two more ships were ordered in 2001 and handed over to the Navy in 2003-2004.

          The minesweeper "Cromer" was decommissioned in 2001, after only 10 years of service, and in 2002 was converted into a training ship (docked) of the British Royal Naval College (Dortmouth). After being converted into floating training classes, the ship was renamed "Hindus-tan" (the traditional name for the college's training ships since 1864).
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 20 2021 16: 03
    -1
    "Kiev intends to buy ..." (c) Kiev ... buy ?! laughing laughing laughing
  • xorek
    xorek April 20 2021 16: 47
    0
    What shishi are interesting? After the collapse of the USSR, Svidomo had shipyards, and there, and an aircraft carrier could be built .. Where is EVERYTHING? Disgracers ..
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 20 2021 16: 56
    +2
    Since Ukraine does not have its own funds for the purchase, the minesweepers will also be purchased at the expense of a loan that will be provided to the Naval Forces of Ukraine by all that Great Britain.

    Will they include the maintenance of this ship on credit? This will require currency
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 20 2021 17: 06
    +2
    A neighbor in the garage sells a cauldron. Good. She is 20 years old. Can offer "velikukram"?
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 April 20 2021 21: 36
    0
    A glass fool ... will not break for a long time, or lose. The ships themselves are interesting because their capabilities will practically be equal to our "newest" Alexandrites. We have no such in the Black Sea Fleet. And the mine danger should not be underestimated, both setting and trawling.
  • Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 21 2021 02: 07
    -1
    With such neighbors, everything is possible: they can place mines in unexpected places and throw off the deviation group more conveniently than from a rubber boat. Paranoid, but such are neighbors.