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The Pentagon urged Russia to "clarify" intentions towards Ukraine

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The Pentagon urged Russia to "clarify" intentions towards Ukraine

The Pentagon still does not understand Russia's intentions towards Ukraine and calls on it to "clarify" them. This was stated by the spokesman for the US Department of Defense John Kirby.


Despite repeated statements by the Russian Ministry of Defense that Russia is not hatching any plans to attack Ukraine, and the redeployment of army units is associated with a control check during the winter period, this does not reach the Americans. Another accusation against Moscow was made by Pentagon press secretary John Kirby, who called on Russia to stop provocations near the Ukrainian borders and finally explain why the Russian army is concentrated near Ukraine.

Kirby said that while Moscow attributes this to the teachings, it is "not obvious" to Washington. Probably, in order to become "obvious", the Russian army should be withdrawn altogether beyond the Urals or to Siberia. And even then in the USA they will find something to cling to.

The State Department echoes the Pentagon, which demanded to urgently open the sections of the Black Sea closed by the Russian military and provide Ukrainian ships with free passage to the Sea of ​​Azov. There is a feeling that the American Foreign Ministry, apart from the Kerch Strait, knows nothing more about the Black Sea, since all their demands are related to the passage to and from the Sea of ​​Azov.

The fact that Russia has blocked off areas of the sea that have nothing to do with the strait does not bother the United States, the main thing is to demand the opening of free shipping in the Kerch Strait, which no one has ever closed. Kiev is also adding fuel to the fire, relentlessly complaining about Moscow, allegedly oppressing not only the Ukrainian Navy, but also blocking merchant ships.
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  1. For example
    For example April 20 2021 13: 33
    +46
    Put cancer on the Nazis. Return Russian lands. Clear the coast of the Azov and Black Seas from the Nazis.
    These are the intentions.
    1. Vend
      Vend April 20 2021 13: 39
      +13
      This is "not obvious" to Washington. Probably, in order to become "obvious", the Russian army should be withdrawn beyond the Urals or to Siberia.
      Take it higher, the United States dreams of disbanding the Russian army altogether.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana April 20 2021 13: 48
        +14
        The Pentagon still does not understand Russia's intentions towards Ukraine and calls on it to "clarify" them. This was stated by the spokesman for the US Department of Defense John Kirby.

        John Kirby is a "holy naivete"! laughing Already, even a silly Psaki that he asks for this is ridiculous! yes
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell April 20 2021 14: 48
          +6
          Quote: Tatiana
          John Kirby is downright "holy naivete" ..

          Senora, of course they are worried - they similarly pushed the rodents to the war of three eights: teachings, immediately after the attack ..., but did not fuse ... So they are worried now: what if these Russians guessed ... lol only this is not naivety - overwhelming hypocrisy with total control of the information field
        2. venik
          venik April 20 2021 17: 19
          +4
          Quote: Tatiana
          The Pentagon still does not understand Russia's intentions with regard to Ukraine and calls on it to "clarify" them. John Kirby is downright "holy naivete"! laughing

          ========
          Wo-ao! Che to "clarify" that? They will not rock the boat - no one will touch! What is incomprehensible then ??? request
        3. keeper03
          keeper03 April 20 2021 19: 52
          +4
          From now on, we will conduct exercises in the Black Sea on a rotational basis every month, closing certain zones for shipping! laughing bully soldier
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre April 21 2021 19: 30
            +1
            closing certain areas for shipping!
            In a random order. To keep them in good shape.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov April 21 2021 20: 48
              +1
              "The Pentagon urged Russia to 'clarify' its intentions towards Ukraine"

              Yes, they all perfectly understand! Are being done. They are trying to intimidate Russia. lol
      2. credo
        credo April 20 2021 13: 53
        +17
        Quote: Wend
        This is "not obvious" to Washington. Probably, in order to become "obvious", the Russian army should be withdrawn beyond the Urals or to Siberia.
        Take it higher, the United States dreams of disbanding the Russian army altogether.

        We don't really care what they dream of there, but in response to their restless actions, we should either publish a book of military bases, various laboratories and prisons of the United States and NATO countries, along the perimeter of our borders, either annually (quarterly) in the form of Foreign Ministry notes and send monthly to the United States and NATO with the requirement to explain their placement at our borders and take them to hell.
        1. Financier
          Financier April 20 2021 14: 54
          +9
          Quote: credo
          in response to their restless actions

          Vladimir Mayakovsky
          The universal answer

          Me
          tired of notes -
          a lot of painful writing something.
          Offered
          without unnecessary phrases
          the universal answer is
          all at once.
          If
          us
          warrior one or another
          will want
          provoke by war, -
          our answer:
          no!
          And if the
          even in a scuffle question
          reach out a hand -
          to the conference, they say, please,
          always
          answer:
          yes!
          If
          power
          one or the other
          scares with ultimatums, -
          our answer:
          no!
          What if,
          not frightening with an ultimatum,
          ask:
          - Let's pay each other for grievances, -
          always
          answer:
          yes!
          If
          concession
          or what else
          want to
          sit on the neck of the workers, -
          our answer:
          no!
          And if the
          mutually,
          having opened a tight bag,
          offer:
          - Let's
          let's trade honestly! -
          always
          answer:
          yes!
          If
          I want to
          stick a snout at them
          in that
          whom we judge
          whom we have mercy -
          our answer:
          no!
          If
          just
          will ask
          for a favor -
          forgive such and such -
          -uncle,-
          always
          answer:
          yes!
          Curzon,
          Poincaré,
          and who else is there ?!
          Each of you
          don't be lazy
          and before
          than to emit wasted notes,
          read
          my poem.
    2. 210ox
      210ox April 20 2021 13: 39
      +10
      Everything is correct. But time is lost. Now we have to extinguish the situation in Donbass with such frightening actions.
      1. ironic
        ironic April 20 2021 13: 54
        -20%
        All right what? A call for revenge is this true?
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 20 2021 13: 58
          +9
          What kind of revenge are you talking about? Whose lands is this? From Odessa, Kiev to Kharkov?
          1. vl903
            vl903 April 20 2021 14: 17
            +9
            Well, if you look at the history and old names on the maps, then we can safely present to Berlin and even further.))) so it would be better if the American cow was silent, and not hummed)))
            1. ironic
              ironic April 20 2021 15: 03
              -13%
              And the names on the maps are all that is required for international law or the subjects of territorial integrity have already disappeared from the maps?
              1. vl903
                vl903 April 20 2021 17: 22
                +7
                what is international law? what happened in Serbia?
                1. ironic
                  ironic April 20 2021 18: 05
                  -11%
                  Didn't the Russian Federation take part in this?
                  1. vl903
                    vl903 April 20 2021 18: 20
                    +8
                    in the 3 month bombing of Serbia and the genocide of the Serbs? - This is the Amer test run. there Russia swallowed and now got Ukraine. will swallow Ukraine, the Americans will stop only at the Chinese border, they are literally direct heirs of the British pirates.
                    1. ironic
                      ironic April 25 2021 22: 18
                      0
                      With Russian full-profile consent. By the way, Israel then reared up. Sharon was remembered. You made Ukraine together with the west in the lapapam and each had its own stigma in the cannon. The West simply did not expect such agility. But in vain. I was just sure. This obamotu and his heir, the can, is still not entirely clear today. But this does not mean that everything is in order.
                      1. vl903
                        vl903 April 26 2021 07: 55
                        -1
                        with the consent of the American staged in Russia. the people were for Serbia. the paratroopers' march confirms this. It must be admitted that the United States won the Cold War by smuggling traitors into the leadership of the USSR. it seems that Andropov was already their man
                      2. ironic
                        ironic April 26 2021 18: 19
                        0
                        The West won the Cold War, because the USSR lost it, that's what you need to understand, and there were traitors on both sides, and McCarthyism is the best historical example of this. There is no need to engage in speculation for complacency. Andropov is their man .... Well, it's funny.
                      3. vl903
                        vl903 April 27 2021 11: 03
                        -1
                        facts speak for Andropov. instead of sounding the alarm (his only task was to protect the viability of the system) he contributed to the stagnation of the USSR system. Borodino also lost. but the legs did not fold. Germany, too, is still under American occupation. as it shakes off, it will be restored, if the Anglo-Saxons do not zanocidat at all. France, Germany and Russia separated them from world domination and refereeing as you wish. France and Germany have been politically defeated in two wars. Russia is almost finished off. but managed to feed China. just a little bit left for you to "world law". but you have a chance (((
                      4. ironic
                        ironic April 27 2021 15: 32
                        0
                        I am somehow not interested in discussing alternative universes, and if I was interested in theories of conspiracy, it was only for the sake of broadening my general horizons, they say, people are capable of inventing such things.
                      5. vl903
                        vl903 April 27 2021 20: 51
                        0
                        if you want to fix a car, you need to know its structure and analyze the symptoms. now in the ancestral home of the Russians they are destroying the Russians. to stop it and you need to understand the root causes. The Anglo-Saxon supposedly world laws are of no interest to anyone except the Anglo-Saxons and hangers-on if they are, by a strange coincidence, beneficial only to them. and the grandfathers seem to be ashamed of you. but a Jew cannot justify Bandera's power in Ukraine.
                      6. ironic
                        ironic April 27 2021 23: 06
                        0
                        Indeed, a Jew cannot justify the Neo-Banderites. But a Jew cannot but remember how it is when everyone is combed with the same brush. And also he can not help but remember that under these same Anglo-Saxon uninteresting laws the Russian Federation was signed and that similar laws made it possible to revive Mr. Israel, and if they do not exist, then it is possible to decide whom to demolish according to absolutely any principle, and everyone is trying to demolish Israel 10th anniversary. That is why the Jew remembers this very well.
              2. Sarboz
                Sarboz April 27 2021 12: 09
                0
                Quote: vl903
                It must be admitted that the United States won the Cold War by smuggling traitors into the leadership of the USSR. it seems that Andropov was already their man

                I agree with everything. And with Serbia. And with traitors embedded in the system. Among the traitors who destroyed the system from the inside were Gorbachev, Ligachev (who replaced 70% of the regional committee secretaries with "his own", Lukyanov, Yakovlev, Shevardnadze, Bakatin ...
                Minus you for Andropov. Well, don't be angry. He was not a traitor. If he had not been poisoned at one time in Kabul and he had not passed away so early, the Union would have taken a completely different path and certainly would not have collapsed.
              3. vl903
                vl903 April 27 2021 20: 46
                0
                Andropov had to stop Ligachev and get Brezhnev replaced. I confess I do not know the history of the political top of the USSR. but apparently the first swallow was Khrushchev. then they probably waited for Brezhnev's weakness. but this of course needs to be studied, this is a very interesting topic. the same mutiny on the destroyer says that already in 1972 there was something wrong in the state, and the KGB slept through.
          2. vl903
            vl903 April 26 2021 07: 58
            0
            and Ukraine is completely ours. all that we do with her is inside the Russian business. no matter how Bandera Kravchuk would like it.
          3. ironic
            ironic April 26 2021 18: 21
            +1
            Who decided this? The Russian Federation, as a subject of international relations, did not officially make such decisions. Your personal wishes are not a reason for practical revanchism, because this is a crime from the point of view of accepted international norms.
          4. vl903
            vl903 April 27 2021 08: 30
            0
            people in Donbas are not fighting for the sake of international norms, and no matter how you fight for the interests of the United States, you will have to answer for the deaths of our people. you because you stand up for the interests of the United States, then you are with them.
          5. ironic
            ironic April 27 2021 15: 34
            0
            I stand for the interests of the people, in this conflict there is a certain amount of guilt and obamot and your strippers and Ukrainian corruption and European inadequacy. And you will find enemies vizde, this is how you have adopted a worldview for yourself. Zombieland rulez.
          6. vl903
            vl903 April 27 2021 20: 59
            0
            do not hang Anglo-Saxon sins on Russia. England would sit on its island and then America on the planet, millions, and maybe billions would remain alive and unbroken to the skin. but there is no strange way everyone is to blame except them. you looked at the globe where is ukraine and where is the united states? what their instructors and tsrushniki are doing in ukraine, they will correctly genocide the Ukrainian people, that is, the Russians. because they are on their way to "world law". and very much the United States wants to be a "magistrate" and the owner. and you justify them. How would your grandfathers look at you? to justify those who burned people in Odessa, killed in a cold pit?
          7. ironic
            ironic April 27 2021 23: 01
            0
            Yes, you do not have a single stripper who is neither white nor fluffy. You have already explained this to me. All the children of Donbass were eaten by the Angloscasy and their henchmen, like me. But I now consider the Odessa case a crime, but you don’t consider Kiev in 13th year, that’s all you need to know about how I see justice and how you are.
          8. vl903
            vl903 April 27 2021 23: 09
            0
            and who were the root causes of the murders and the customers in both cases? to whom was it profitable?
          9. ironic
            ironic April 27 2021 23: 33
            0
            As to anyone, only the Anglo-Saxons who conquered the world, all other versions are not patriotic.
          10. vl903
            vl903 April 28 2021 21: 10
            0
            patriotism affects only the topic in which we understand. now it is the fate of the Russian people. you will have the Jewish people. and then you need to understand the root causes, then correctly understand the development of the situation. and then it will be clear what to do, if, of course, there are opportunities.
          11. ironic
            ironic April 28 2021 21: 52
            0
            All the same, the opinion that Topol needs will win, for this, shoulder straps also grow.
          12. vl903
            vl903 April 28 2021 23: 45
            0
            Yes, how should it have been earlier, when NATO went to Eastern Europe and stingers were taken to Afghanistan, but here Andropov and others did not fulfill their task, apparently already deliberately. now we disentangle not just at home, but even in the bedroom, our wife is being used in front of us and they hide behind world law and shame us
          13. ironic
            ironic April 29 2021 17: 15
            0
            Like, at one time, Soviet gifts were not brought to Korea and Vietnam, respectively, and no excuses were given ... again, you see only one side of the barricades. Divorce happens with spouses, but not everyone breaks the pots, drag children through the courts and spoil property, so long as they do not award another, while considering only the former / former and their new partners to be guilty.
          14. vl903
            vl903 April 29 2021 20: 48
            0
            in Korea and Vietnam your pirates played tricks, they were replaced by the Japanese, the Japanese were nappened, the people were delighted, and your pirates - where are you going? victory over fascism is not for you - you will return to slavery! and when your pirates were attacked, they are like that, but what for us? Are you sure a Jew? why then drown for the slave owners?
          15. ironic
            ironic April 30 2021 14: 34
            -1
            What are yours in Israel? Are you out of your mind? I’m Jewish and Israeli, I don’t have any other citizenship, but what you wrote I didn’t understand at all.
          16. vl903
            vl903 April 30 2021 19: 36
            0
            your comments as a member of the forum are such that you clearly pass for an American. Israel - the state, unlike you, leads a more balanced line
          17. ironic
            ironic 2 May 2021 13: 47
            +1
            And somewhere I called for the termination of Israeli-Russian relations? I myself am a direct participant in them, as I head the software of a joint Israeli-Russian startup. And by the way, and for the good of the Russian Federation, including I work.
  2. vl903
    vl903 April 27 2021 23: 10
    0
    and who are the strippers?
  3. vl903
    vl903 April 27 2021 23: 20
    0
    half of my messages disappear somewhere. the root cause of what was going on in both cases? and to whom was it profitable? and it is immediately clear that the victims of both cases, I note the Russians, although different in convictions, are on the conscience of the United States. and you stubbornly pretend that you don't understand, but I don't believe in it. Jews were able to preserve their community for thousands of years, this is not possible if you do not understand how the world works, and if you are really a Jew, you have understood everything a long time ago. are you trolling me?
  4. ironic
    ironic April 27 2021 23: 35
    0
    You only want to see one side, because it is patriotic, that’s where the Obamot’s nose climbed, you see, and where your stripes climbed, you don’t want to see. This is called selective blindness.
  5. vl903
    vl903 April 28 2021 11: 12
    0
    I did not understand who the strippers were. what is the point in this. but if they climbed into Ukraine, it is the same as if the Americans climbed from Washington to Texas. although it also outrages me, because it violates the "world" rights of the Texan people to self-determination
  6. ironic
    ironic April 28 2021 19: 02
    +1
    This is because you absolutely do not want to see anything other than your side of the baricades. You reacted in the same way to the shelling of Ukrainian passenger trains. Blindness of its own accord. I think you understood everything, but just filtered it out as unpatriotic.
  7. vl903
    vl903 April 28 2021 21: 06
    0
    shelling of Ukrainian trains with Russian people, by definition, is beneficial only to the states to divide the Russian people as much as possible and then dominate and plunder. they had it with both Indians and Indians and China miraculously slipped
  8. ironic
    ironic April 28 2021 21: 53
    +1
    And the Ukrainian people are not there?
  9. vl903
    vl903 April 28 2021 23: 49
    0
    Ukrainian is even more Russian than Russian Russian. but here the principle is strenuously put into practice - undress, achieve hatred, and then you will rob both of them and destroy them one by one
  10. ironic
    ironic April 29 2021 17: 09
    0
    First, learn to respect differences, peculiarity, uniqueness, independence, and then you can start looking for commonality, and not vice versa. On the contrary, it is great-power chauvinism.
  11. vl903
    vl903 April 29 2021 20: 43
    0
    differences are interesting to the Anglo-Saxons so that later on the differences and quarrel, and then destroy both
  12. vl903
    vl903 April 29 2021 20: 50
    0
    and inside Russia, with differences, everything is ok, better than in others, like cultural efforts
  13. ironic
    ironic April 30 2021 14: 36
    -1
    The fight for the loot is inherent in you to the same extent, but to destroy ... it's better about the reptilians.
  14. vl903
    vl903 April 30 2021 23: 36
    0
    well, as if in all nations there are good and bad. hucksters, warriors, scientists, hard workers and thieves. the ratio and some local features may differ slightly. and about destroying, we mostly have enemies, although there have been examples in history when Hitler is resting as they say. but the Jews, according to their own ancient history, are far from fluffy bunnies. but here's the style to embroil some kind of people and then rob like a sticky purely Anglo-Saxon pirate culture
  15. ironic
    ironic 2 May 2021 13: 59
    +1
    And I'm not trying to represent the Jews as white and fluffy. Even the creation of modern Israel was distinguished by processes between their own very far from fluffiness. I'm not a hypocrite. And what was revealed at the Eichmann trial in general sent the entire government of Ben Gurion into retirement, and himself into de facto exile in Sde Boker.
    I think that what you ascribe to the Anglo-Saxons and only just turned out better with them, but it is characteristic of all imperial inclinations. And nobody is an exception.
    And to some extent, the Jews also contributed to teach this rule to the world. Rav Shimon Bar-Yohai used to say in the laws of warfare - break the brain of the best of idolaters.
  16. vl903
    vl903 2 May 2021 19: 46
    0
    Well, the story is a very interesting thing, and as someone said, she does not teach anyone anything, but only punishes those who do not know her)))
  17. ironic
    ironic 2 May 2021 23: 40
    0
    History simply does not repeat itself, it is superfluous like past events, each time bears different features even in seemingly similar facts. Therefore, you need to know history, but you need to live here and now, and not in the past.
  18. vl903
    vl903 2 May 2021 19: 52
    0
    again, I'm not a professor of history, but an ordinary sofa expert, and my opinion is very subjective. but the story is a very interesting thing, and as someone said, she does not teach anyone anything, but only punishes those who do not know her
  19. ironic
    ironic 2 May 2021 23: 40
    0
    Anyone's opinion is subjective by definition, even a history professor.
  20. ironic
    ironic April 27 2021 23: 33
    0
    Who has red stripes.
  21. ironic
    ironic April 28 2021 21: 53
    0
    Who has red stripes.
  • ironic
    ironic April 20 2021 15: 02
    -16%
    According to the signed guarantees of territorial integrity - Ukraine.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 20 2021 16: 39
      +11
      Quote: ironic
      According to signed guarantees territorial integrity - Ukraine.
      The guarantees were signed with the government and the president of Ukraine, who were overthrown during the anti-constitutional coup in 2014, and therefore the junta is outlawed, and, as far as we know, no one guaranteed anything to it.
      1. ironic
        ironic April 20 2021 17: 07
        -14%
        Who decided this? UN? Countries that have signed guarantees? That there was no such decision? So this is your personal gag.
    2. 210ox
      210ox April 20 2021 16: 43
      +4
      Clear. Judging by Nick, you are being ironic. About some guarantees to those who came to power during the coup.
      1. ironic
        ironic April 20 2021 17: 09
        -11%
        Well, yes, I am ironic in relation to such attempts at lawmaking, as issued here on VO. Who decided that? Countries that signed the grants agreed to denounce them? Was it voted for at the UN? What is not? So this is your personal opinion and only, besides, it is also biased.
        1. notingem
          notingem April 20 2021 22: 28
          +3
          Sasha, look at the minuses. This is the opinion of the majority. Please don’t pretend to be the smartest and always right-wing dictator.
          1. ironic
            ironic April 21 2021 18: 51
            -2
            I have already answered this question, my disadvantages are an appeal to the conscience of the aggressive and forgetting majority, this is a silent reproach to you against the collective folly of the crowd. Dictators dictate to the crowd, not vice versa.
      2. didra
        didra April 20 2021 21: 51
        +2
        He loves himself too much to be sarcastic.)
        1. ironic
          ironic April 21 2021 18: 51
          -2
          Love for others begins with the ability to love yourself. wink
          1. didra
            didra April 21 2021 21: 05
            +1
            This is a phrase from an advertisement for a tanning bed or shampoo. There is no connection!
            1. ironic
              ironic April 25 2021 00: 40
              -2
              Feeling like a shampoo? I have a different opinion about myself. There are connections, but there is also self-hypnosis, so as not to see the connections.
              1. didra
                didra April 25 2021 09: 31
                +1
                There is no connection, you yourself are an example of this. Well, let it not be an advertisement for a solarium, but for example an advertisement for pads or soaps for acne. Is this analogy clearer to you?
              2. ironic
                ironic April 25 2021 13: 40
                -1
                Well, that means you treat yourself like that. It is difficult to expect a higher level of relations with others, respectively. And blindness from autosuggestion is a very effective blindness.
              3. didra
                didra April 25 2021 14: 39
                +1
                So, I refer to your statements. And perhaps to you.
              4. didra
                didra April 25 2021 14: 41
                +1
                And again, to fix you. This statement (about self-love) is an advertising slogan and nothing more.
              5. ironic
                ironic April 25 2021 14: 53
                -1
                This is how you taught yourself to think, I wrote about your self-hypnosis above.
            2. ironic
              ironic April 25 2021 14: 52
              -1
              That says a lot about yourself.
            3. didra
              didra April 25 2021 18: 58
              +1
              There are still arguments in defense of your position)? Soapy you are ours.
            4. ironic
              ironic April 25 2021 19: 57
              -1
              Well, you yourself act as an argument, and I don't have to do anything. Blinded you are ours.
  • 210ox
    210ox April 20 2021 14: 09
    +1
    I like the characters. Just registered. And merged.
  • ABC-schütze
    ABC-schütze April 20 2021 14: 22
    +7
    Sorry to ask. To some kind of "revenge"? .. Revenge is the occupation of those who once, to someone, lost something. Duc, to whom and what, in the former united Ukraine, did Russia or Novorossia "lose", say? seize power) throughout the territory of the former united Ukraine.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 15: 05
      -13%
      Revenge of the territorial possessions of the USSR. The territorial integrity of Ukraine under international treaties has not changed de jure. De facto, it has been changed and this is contrary to international law and the obligations of these countries as guarantors.
      1. Jaromir
        Jaromir April 20 2021 15: 40
        +9
        There was nothing to follow the lead of the Western occupiers and arrange a Nazi coup. Have fun - get it. The people of Ukraine themselves did not want to live under your yoke. As a result, you burned Odessa, beat Kharkov, shot Mariupol. Only the people of Crimea and Donbass managed to escape. But now you are talking about some kind of revenge of the territories of the USSR. As if there was nothing before the USSR. negative
        1. ironic
          ironic April 20 2021 16: 39
          -9
          What is yours? How does all this gag of yours relate to international norms and de jure treaties? What is the relation to the signed treaties that existed before the USSR? fool
        2. ironic
          ironic April 26 2021 21: 44
          0
          Who was scored in Kharkov by the way? It's even more interesting ... fool
      2. Egoza
        Egoza April 20 2021 16: 21
        +5
        Quote: ironic
        The territorial integrity of Ukraine under international treaties has not changed de jure. De facto, it has been changed and this is contrary to international law and the obligations of these countries to the guarantors

        What are you talking about ?! And nothing that Ukraine has only an administrative border with the Russian Federation, and nowhere, according to international rules, is not approved? Only the border with Europe was approved, fortunately that it remained as it was under the USSR. And the "free" Ukraine has no clear borders on all sides.
        1. ironic
          ironic April 20 2021 16: 40
          -9
          Absolutely nothing, since the Russian Federation signed exactly under this very border, as the border of the integrity of Ukraine and several other countries. So there is.
          1. ABC-schütze
            ABC-schütze April 20 2021 22: 26
            +3
            I ask again ... When are these the legitimate authorities of the former united Ukraine, LEGALLY competent to represent their state when signing international agreements (including on the border ...) officially, they accused Russia of "non-compliance" with the signed agreements and assumed obligations? .. By whom, on whose behalf and on what legal basis Russia, in the context of the former united Ukraine, destroyed by the coup d'état, are now "rolling out" ridiculous claims about some kind of "violation"? .. On behalf of the State Department and the decaying old woman, Vicki Nuland, who handed out the products of the State Department bakery in Kiev? .. Or on behalf of the "European" boys wiping their trousers in Brussels and Mons? .. I remind you, as an "expert" of international law. The constitution of the state, which determines its political, territorial, administrative, etc. the device, the economic system, is a SINGLE, SINGLE and indivisible document. And from it, by definition, it is impossible to illegally "take out", only "one brick". Because, at once, simultaneously, on autopilot, the entire constitutional structure collapses as a whole. Those. the situation you were counting on, like we unconstitutionally only "presidential power" will throw off, and everything else (territorial, administrative structure, etc.) "as it were", will remain unchanged and the Kremlin did not give you the old one. And he did the right thing. Why, on what international legal basis, he should have made such gifts to the Kiev coup d'état and their sponsors? .. Who, where and when proved that the Constitution of the state is a kind of construction of "Lego" throw out fragments? .. Moreover, basic ones, such as the inviolability of the branches of government and their legal powers? .. And everyone else, like, "must" calmly observe and pretend that "everything is legal"? ..
            1. ironic
              ironic April 21 2021 18: 36
              -2
              The legitimate authorities illegally threw gangs against their citizens, and then fled from responsibility abroad. Nobody gave anyone the sole right to question the legality of the opinion of the countries that signed the territorial guarantor, and none of them, except Russia, accepted the interpretation of the illegitimacy of the current parliament of Ukraine and the legality of actions under the constitution of the previous authorities and did not accept the UN Security Council. Exactly, it is impossible to read from the constitution here, but we do not read here, it is possible to start with unconstitutional actions and end with an unconstitutional escape, but the newly assembled parliament cannot be considered as such? Who decided this? UN Security Council? All but one guarantor country? And why did it come to be considered internationally legal? Here is the result, you were given an unequivocal answer from all these places, this interpretation of international legality was not accepted. Crimea is considered annexed, and Russia is considered a party to the East Ukrainian conflict.
          2. notingem
            notingem April 20 2021 22: 42
            +2
            Sasha, you can see, you don't know that in the 21st century you don't care deeply about: honor, conscience, contracts, words. And there are lawyers to clean up any rubbish (you are not a lawyer by any chance) and the expression is a global trend
            1. ironic
              ironic April 21 2021 18: 41
              -2
              I am aware that politics is the second oldest profession (I am actually an electronics and programmer). This, however, does not change what becomes obvious and even the second oldest profession has to be reckoned with, so it, like the first, prefers to work in the dark, but still things fall into the light and cast quite clearly distinguishable shadows.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 20 2021 16: 36
        +8
        Quote: ironic
        Revenge of the territorial possessions of the USSR. The territorial integrity of Ukraine under international treaties has not changed de jure. De facto, it has been changed and this is contrary to international law and the obligations of these countries as guarantors.

        You are mistaken, nothing contradicts. The demarcation of the Russian-Ukrainian border from 1991 to the present has not been completed, and therefore the border is conditional. So what do you think is recognized by international law on which you rely? - the administrative-territorial borders of the Ukrainian SSR, established by the USSR, or the state borders of Ukraine, the demarcation of which did not take place and which does not exist in fact?
        1. ironic
          ironic April 21 2021 18: 43
          -2
          This is a revenge statement, because at the moment when the Russian Federation signed the border guarantee, they became a fact on the principle of where they were drawn. And since you don't admit it, this is a call for revenge.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky April 21 2021 20: 25
            +1
            Quote: ironic
            This is a revenge statement, because at the moment when the Russian Federation signed the border guarantee, they became a fact on the principle of where they were drawn. And since you don't admit it, this is a call for revenge.

            It can be called "revenge", it can be called "ballet", but the border, according to the same international law, is a line on the ground agreed and signed by the two sides during the demarcation. The demarcation between Ukraine and Russia has not been completed. This is a fact, and an objective fact, even if you shoot yourself, it will not cease to be a fact.
            1. ironic
              ironic April 25 2021 00: 43
              -2
              And what was the integrity of what the guarantor countries signed then? G-va with absent demorcation of borders, what is a fact in the opinion of one of the guarantor states? This is an even more revanchist statement.
      4. ABC-schütze
        ABC-schütze April 20 2021 22: 00
        +4
        Yeah ... So it turns out that the population of Crimea is "revanchists" who have decided to restore the territory of the USSR? .. Duc, the population of Crimea, by the way, did not violate the laws of the former united Ukraine and its Constitution. In contrast to the Kiev coup. For this, according to international law, it is the law-abiding population, who obeyed the laws of their country, can act as a legal representative on behalf of this country, in any international arena. Including relations with countries that were previously part of the USSR. With Russia, for example. This time ... But the coup d'état, who illegally seized power, do not have this right. To the coup, I remind you once again, for the educational program, international law does not give any "guarantees". And they are never considered as legal entities authorized to represent the state (even the former ...). Neither de jure, nor de facto ... Second. And when it was "in accordance with international law," the borders of the former Soviet Union republics were considered "international"? .. Yes, they bordered the territory of the former Union Republic. But the internationally recognized status of the state border had only that part of their borders, which was part of the state border of the USSR. Russia has not violated any "borders" of Ukraine. And the legitimate authorities of the former united Ukraine have never made any official claims on this subject to Russia. These are two. By the way, in the agreement on the border with Russia signed by Kui in 2003, in the introductory part, there is a good "reference". Claiming that this document rests on the provisions of the Final Act of the Helsinki Agreement. Would you like to translate this into Russian? .. Let me remind you, just in case, that the BASIC provision of the Final Act is the thesis about the invariability of post-war borders in Europe. Until now, no one has canceled it. But in Europe, right up to the Urals, only the USSR had state borders, not its Union Republics. AND THE ONLY and INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED legal successor of the USSR, TODAY, is only Russia (Russian Federation). And no one else, from the former Union republics. It means, purely "de jure", which you are so eager to refer to, the former united Ukraine itself, from the very beginning, is essentially an "illegal entity" that runs counter to the foundations of the Helsinki Final Act. So, behave more modestly, waving the aforementioned "international law" ... These are three ...
        1. ironic
          ironic April 21 2021 18: 48
          -2
          I will not answer all this sheet (I have already answered a lot above), but the population of Crimea was not legally authorized to hold a local referendum, but to initiate an all-Ukrainian one. This was not done, therefore it is illegal. But the Russian Federation, as having accepted the result of this referendum, has broken its word as the guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine. Therefore, none of the guarantor countries made this decision de jure, and neither did the UN Security Council. And you, justifying such illegal activities, are respectively the bearer of the idea of ​​territorial revenge (meaning the territory of the USSR).
      5. Sarboz
        Sarboz April 25 2021 20: 31
        0
        Quote: ironic
        Revenge of the territorial possessions of the USSR. Territorial integrity of Ukraine under international treaties de juro has not changed. De facto she changed and it contradicts international law and the obligations of these countries as guarantors.
        G-va with absent demorcation borders ...
        ...and initialize carrying out all-Ukrainian.
        But the Russian Federation, as having accepted the result of this referendum...

        I do not want to enter into a discussion with Irons, it makes no sense. But your deliberate ignorance and ostentatious disregard for the Russian language is tiresome. "De jure" and "de facto", "contradict", "demarcation", "initialize", "referendum". You communicate on a Russian-language site, so have respect for the language in which you write, for your own, by the way, native language.
        1. ironic
          ironic April 25 2021 22: 03
          +1
          My native language is Hebrew, and Russian is my first language, and I did not choose what it would be, because teaching my native language was given 3 years in prison. And I am also dyslexic and I don’t see my mistakes, and I also write in transliteration and don’t notice any mistakes and I don’t have enough time to check every post with a dictionary. There is a good forum proverb that on a specialized forum nothing can be more boring and senseless than notations about grammar.
          1. Sarboz
            Sarboz April 26 2021 11: 53
            0
            Quote: ironic
            My native language is Hebrew, and Russian is my first language, and I did not choose what it would be, because teaching my native language was given 3 years in prison.

            The native language is the one you think in. People like you have no homeland. He who betrayed once will betray twice. Our people say so.
            1. ironic
              ironic April 26 2021 18: 15
              +1
              I think more often in Hebrew for 30 years than in Russian. What are you talking about? And the people do not say do not go gossip among their people? I've served both the country in which I was born and also served my historical homeland. And they are such slanderers, when there are not enough strangers, they slander their own people too, it's a habit. In all developed countries, the natives of them and their achievements, an object of pride, and only the remnants of the scoop continue to look for who betrayed them, otherwise how can they carry their scoop. Heavy. Half a lemon of Slavs are traitors in Israel, there are as many more in Germany, and in Canada, and in the States ..., and how many Russian-speaking Germans are traitors in general with a couple of lemons. It's hard to live in a world of solid traitors, wrapped in a red rag with a hole in one place.
              1. Sarboz
                Sarboz April 26 2021 18: 20
                0
                Quote: ironic
                In all developed countries, the natives of them and their achievements, an object of pride, and only the remnants of the scoop continue to look for who betrayed them, otherwise how can they carry their scoop. Heavy.

                So after all, those immigrants from Russia, whose achievements we have the right to be proud of, do not throw mud at their homeland, as you do. Take a look at Jacob Kedmi and in the mirror. And you will understand everything. Why are you not accepted here with bread and salt? Why is it called a traitor and an accomplice of Bandera.
                1. ironic
                  ironic April 26 2021 21: 40
                  +1
                  I do not water my homeland, I criticize it, as well as the country where I was born, and such extremists as you, only spread slander and slander, deceitful and immoral. Is this what I have to look at? This snitch, who broke into his own organization on the air, handed over with losses for how many of us repatriates were bought from a hunchback for the head, worked as a chief in the most snitching of all Israeli state organizations (he also planted this snitching), who ran to earn money on the Russian air how his elder accomplice Barak was kicked in the ass in the political world of Israel and Nataniyahu also kicked this libeller to the sidelines, decided to take revenge, earning good money, the benefit of such a knock, as under his command, was not in any other state organization, he is familiar and familiar. Tfu on him three times. What an abomination.
                  I earned my bread and salt for a long time. I am accepted where I want it.
                  And who are the judges? Racists and great-power chauvinists who have gone berserk with hatred and misanthropy with the complexes of those offended by the whole world? I would be offended if such people accepted me. I show each forum reader what you can reach if you completely lose a human face for the sake of the basest instincts roaming under a thin layer of civilization, and you help me a lot with this, much more and better than what I wrote.
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  • Model101
    Model101 April 20 2021 14: 59
    +2
    Quote: ironic
    All right what? A call for revenge is this true?

    So this ukroindiya rocks the situation, don't you know? All the same, sp2 will be completed and soon she will have a khan.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 15: 07
      -10%
      The atmosphere was rocked from both sides, as the participants in the boat are still the same. SP2 will or will not be the essence even once. But about the khan is it genocide?
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky April 20 2021 16: 24
    +2
    Quote: ironic
    All right what? A call for revenge is this true?

    The word revenge does not apply here.
    Revenge is the desire of the losing side to change the outcome of a fight and take victory in a new fight. Do you recall when a duel took place between Ukraine and Russia in which Ukraine won?
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 16: 48
      -9
      We are talking about the return of the territory of the former USSR, although the USSR no longer exists, but in essence the actions are revanchism.
  • ironic
    ironic April 20 2021 13: 53
    -24%
    Only fascists live in Ukraine? The integrity of a sovereign country can be violated without a declaration of war, but by signing a guarantee of such? These are no longer the lands of the Russian Federation, but the lands of Ukraine, moreover, under the signature of guarantees of the Russian Federation itself. Are you aware that you are propagandizing revanchism, hiding behind the presence of marginal elements and nationalists in Ukraine?
    1. Genry
      Genry April 20 2021 14: 00
      +11
      Quote: ironic
      Only fascists live in Ukraine?

      The question is posed incorrectly! Who commands the country and its army?

      And our "hello" to the inhabitants of Ukraine.
      Quote: ironic
      These are no longer the lands of the Russian Federation, but the lands of Ukraine, moreover, under the signature of guarantees of the Russian Federation itself.

      When they signed, a clause on non-bloc status and friendly relations was introduced into the constitution of Ukraine. This is no longer there, which means ...
      Quote: ironic
      hiding behind the presence of marginal elements and nationalists in Ukraine?

      Who want to speak Russian?
      1. ironic
        ironic April 20 2021 15: 10
        -8
        President, Ministry of Defense and Parliament. Generalization that they are all fascists and / or they are all Bandera.

        Generalization all in Ukrainians from the same series, I do not have a single Ukrainian in my family and I am not a citizen of Ukraine.

        So this is either a denunciation of the agreement, but it was not, or a declaration of war, but it was not, or non-compliance with obligations, the third remains.

        I have been to Kharkiv more than once, and there everyone who wants to speak Russian, by the way, in Kiev too.
        1. Genry
          Genry April 20 2021 16: 02
          +3
          Quote: ironic
          President, Ministry of Defense and Parliament.

          These are puppets under external control. In fact, they fulfill US requirements.
          All opposition parties are ousted from parliament and opposition TV channels are banned.
          Quote: ironic
          Summarizing everything in Ukrainians from the same series,

          What generalization are you talking about?
          Quote sentences to which you are giving answers (select the text and click the gray "Quote" icon - next to the bright "Reply").
          Quote: ironic
          I have been to Kharkiv more than once, and there everyone who wants to speak Russian, by the way, in Kiev too.

          They say in spite of, not thanks to ... At school, it is forbidden. In the service sector - the staff is only in Ukrainian.
          1. ironic
            ironic April 20 2021 16: 46
            -9
            This is your opinion, but it cannot be a reason for changing the agreed boundaries of another city.

            I do not have time to do editing especially for you, answering me as a type of "Ukrainian", you generalize all those who disagree with you, as Ukrainians. This is done by many on the MO, and it is immoral.

            The school is not prohibited. At least in Kharkov. Teaching is in the title language, this is normal. As a fact, there is no what you say, I saw it with my own eyes. Yes, inadequate manifestations of nationalism (racism) take place, but far from being ubiquitous and this is not a reason for generalizations.
            1. Genry
              Genry April 20 2021 17: 09
              +4
              Quote: ironic
              This is your opinion, but it cannot be a reason for changing the agreed boundaries of another city.

              I expressed the opinion that is taking place in Ukraine itself.
              And according to international laws, it is the population living in the territory that has the right to define this territory.
              Quote: ironic
              The school is not prohibited.

              Quote: ironic
              Teaching is in the title language, this is normal.

              Is it "normal" to prohibit Russian, despite the fact that there is no restriction on Tatar and others.
              And what about the constitutional clause on the development of languages ​​of other nations / nationalities and international laws.
              Quote: ironic
              As a fact, there is no what you claim, I saw it with my own eyes.

              Are you the "officer's daughter" ???
              Quote: ironic
              Yes nationalism has a place to be

              It is not prohibited, but encouraged.
              Quote: ironic
              I don't have time to do editing

              This is not in your preparation of quick answers (the methodologists have not worked out enough).
              Quote: ironic
              you summarize all those who disagree with you, as Ukrainians.

              Where? What phrase?
              1. ironic
                ironic April 20 2021 17: 59
                -8
                Under international law, this right is exercised in accordance with the laws of the country, i.e. an all-Ukrainian referendum, which never happened.

                I don’t take video campaigns for argumentation. Perhaps this is the case in the west of Ukraine, in the east, I know for sure that it is not.

                Another low-grade NLP-shnye Runet developments like someone's daughters? I don’t go to Kharkov so that I don’t know?

                National identity should be encouraged, and within this framework, nationalism is welcomed in any country with a titular nation. Racism should not be encouraged, but you just do not need to prove to me that racism is widely encouraged in Ukraine, I know for sure that this is not so.

                This cliché is simply not suitable for you, it does not fit into the framework of your reflection.

                -> /// And our "hello" to the residents of Ukraine .///
                1. Genry
                  Genry April 20 2021 18: 11
                  +4
                  Quote: ironic
                  those. an all-Ukrainian referendum, which never happened.

                  It is written in the constitution - but they want to delete this item.
                  Quote: ironic
                  on votok I know for sure that it is not so.

                  Except for Donetsk - Lugansk, "everything is so" ...
                  Quote: ironic
                  I don’t go to Kharkov so that I don’t know?

                  Well, someone would doubt that you are not from Kharkov.
                  Quote: ironic
                  nationalism is welcome in any country with a titular nation

                  In which country is the promotion? Ukraine?

                  Quote: ironic
                  This cliché is simply not suitable for you, it does not fit into the framework of your reflection.
                  -> /// And our "hello" to the residents of Ukraine .///

                  This is already your omitted complex.
                  I just greeted all Ukrainians who read, expressing my respect to them ...
                  1. ironic
                    ironic April 20 2021 18: 26
                    -7
                    After the violation of territorial integrity has already taken place, I can understand the supporters of such a removal.

                    No, not so, I personally saw and know what is wrong.

                    I was born in Kharkov, but I am not from Kharkov and I do not have Ukrainian citizenship. Another all Ukrainians? Symptomatic for fanning war hysteria.

                    In the same Russia there is.

                    No, you have a complex of a great-power chauvinist. You didn’t say hello, but emphasized that the Ukrainian is opposing you again, and now you are trying to drain it. This is clearly seen from your other statements.
                    1. Genry
                      Genry April 20 2021 19: 19
                      +1
                      Quote: ironic
                      After the violation of territorial integrity has already taken place, I can understand the supporters of such a removal.

                      You are from the very beginning, i.e. you are a Ukrainian nationalist.
                      Quote: ironic
                      No, not so, I personally saw and know what is wrong.

                      This Russophobia is at the highest legislative level. You can study Tatars, but Russians cannot.
                      Quote: ironic
                      I was born in Kharkov, but I am not from Kharkov and I do not have Ukrainian citizenship. Another all Ukrainians?

                      Just by the example of Kharkov - not all.
                      Quote: ironic
                      Symptomatic for fanning war hysteria.

                      Who started shouting about the approach of troops to the border?
                      Even now, Russian troops are much further away than Ukrainian troops.
                      Quote: ironic
                      In the same Russia there is.

                      Is teaching in your native language prohibited in Russia? In Russia, gangs of nationalists walk the streets and no one bothers them?
                      Quote: ironic
                      No, you have a complex of a great-power chauvinist. You didn’t say hello, but emphasized that the Ukrainian is opposing you again, and now you are trying to drain it. This is clearly seen from your other statements.

                      On my military ID it says Ukrainian.
                      I have many acquaintances in U ... - so there is no prejudice that you attribute to me.
                      I am very interested in Ukraine, and, apparently, I am much better informed than you.
                    2. ironic
                      ironic April 20 2021 19: 46
                      -6
                      You could not have guessed more stupid assumptions or habitual reflection does not allow?

                      Again, some kind of garbage about the Russian language, did you personally find out? Not. Means just a distributor of hysteria.

                      So what does it mean that not all?

                      Yes, the troops are located on both sides and are very close, but the Russian Federation claims that it is not a party to the conflict, then where will these troops be deployed? Not the territory of a sovereign city?

                      In Russia, there are also gangs of nationalists who are not touched by anyone. Yes. And in Russia from time to time there are showdowns in terms of languages ​​of instruction of national minorities. It may not be so acute, which is understandable, not the same level of conflict, but there is a place to be.

                      Your nationality does not guarantee the characteristics of your actions. I don't care what nationality you are, I'm not a racist. I also met in Kharkov and a lot of additional Russians by nationality who have an extremely anti-Russian position. You are no better informed than me, you are informed to the best of your worldview. You have the selector turned on in the appropriate direction.
                    3. Genry
                      Genry April 20 2021 20: 25
                      +2
                      Quote: ironic
                      Again, some kind of garbage about the Russian language, did you personally find out? Not. Means just a distributor of hysteria.

                      So Zelensky and the Verkhovna Rada are hysterical, since
                      16.01.2020 Law of Ukraine
                      I will tell you about the average education

                      Article 5. Mova cover in the pledges of foreign middle education
                      1. My sanctuary process in the pledges of mediocre enlightenment є sovereign mov.
                      Quote: ironic
                      In Russia, there are also gangs of nationalists who are not touched by anyone.

                      Show at least something like that.
                      Russian attack on the embassy and no police.

                      Quote: ironic
                      And in Russia from time to time there are showdowns in terms of languages ​​of instruction of national minorities.

                      Data?
                      Quote: ironic
                      You have the selector turned on in the appropriate direction.

                      And here is how you defined yourself. Your selector is the most and most selective.
                      You don't see or hear anything - but say a lot of things that don't exist.
                    4. ironic
                      ironic April 20 2021 20: 52
                      -5
                      It is normal that education in the country is taught in the title language. Want another, private school.

                      On the net you can find a lot about "Russian marches" and BORN and not only, but I'm not you, I won't do that.

                      Tatarstan and the educational language conflict.

                      Yes, mine is more selective, but why should I hide it? Yeah, it's like that ass in a parable, if you don't see it, then it's not there? And she is.
                    5. Genry
                      Genry April 20 2021 21: 15
                      +2
                      Quote: ironic
                      It is normal that education in the country is taught in the title language.

                      And in Europe and America - notnormally.
                      You can learn in many languages.

                      By the way, what is the official language in the United States?
                      Quote: ironic
                      Want another, private school.

                      So private schools fall under this redneck law.
                      Quote: ironic
                      On the net you can find a lot about "Russian marches" and BORN and not only, but I'm not you, I won't do that.

                      You have nothing.
                      All events - only by prior registration and violent are immediately delayed.
                      Quote: ironic
                      Tatarstan and the educational language conflict.

                      Facts and not la-la!
                      Quote: ironic
                      Yes, mine is more selective, but why should I hide it?

                      Nobody forces you to hide, but to restrict others is redneck.
                    6. ironic
                      ironic April 20 2021 21: 25
                      -5
                      It is possible, for an appropriate fee in specialized schools. English and Spanish.

                      Private schools teach any language.

                      Not with me. You, too, did not keep this video with you. If you are not blind, any search engine will show you a lot of things, but I see no point in throwing poop.

                      It is a fact. Lyalyakat will be your family, you see yourself decently.

                      Restrictions are the essence of the state system, anyone. The question is their adequacy and observance of rights.
                    7. Genry
                      Genry April 20 2021 21: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: ironic
                      Private schools teach any language.

                      Teaching a language and teaching in ... is kind of different.

                      Are you ashamed of the United States?

                      Quote: ironic
                      If you are not blind, any search engine will show you a lot of things, but I see no point in throwing poop.

                      Don't you think that you have to prove your words yourself?
                      And then you write about your feces - but there are no facts.
                      Quote: ironic
                      It is a fact. Lyalyakat will be your family, you see yourself decently.

                      Your manner of writing, something that does not exist and you cannot confirm anything - that is what is called: "la-la".
                      Quote: ironic
                      Restrictions are the essence of the state system, anyone. The question is their adequacy and observance of rights.

                      The state system must protect interests all their citizens and not divide them into goyim and outcasts.
                    8. ironic
                      ironic April 21 2021 20: 38
                      -1
                      What's wrong with what I have written about the United States?

                      About yours, about yours. Blindness is such blindness, especially if it is intentional.

                      Your manager pretending to be blind is not new, so la la leave it for those to whom you can la la.

                      The righteous goyim are given a higher position than the Jews in the next world. Learn materiel, before anti-Semitic statements. Equality does not exist in any system, including the Russian Federation, there are rights and they are granted with advantage to what the system gives priority to. You know this and you also live in such a system, and it was like that until the age of 14 and not only in Ukraine.
                    9. Sarboz
                      Sarboz April 25 2021 21: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: Genry
                      The state system should protect the interests of all its citizens and not divide them into goyim and outcasts.

                      O. Iron waited for its finest hour. In a conversation with him, you uttered the forbidden word "goyim". How not tolerant! That's it, now he has nailed you to the shameful wall as a racist and anti-Semite. However, he did not even bother to understand the meaning of your phrase. He could not even imagine that this had nothing to do with the Jews. I saw a red rag.
                      Quote: ironic
                      The righteous goyim are given a higher position than the Jews in the next world. Learn materiel, before anti-Semitic statements.
                    10. ironic
                      ironic April 25 2021 22: 10
                      -1
                      Well, where am I to your rudeness, after Yaroslavna's crying about respect for the language ... But it is not a matter of getting used to racist statements, as to everyday life in the language of communication, whatever this may be, it is immoral. For you, this is not a red rag, but grammar is ugly, how can you, but this is possible, this is not grammar. From where is the level, from where are human qualities in all growth. Tolerance detected, errors detected, the internal team is fast!
                  2. Sarboz
                    Sarboz April 25 2021 22: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Genry
                    Your manner of writing, something that does not exist and you cannot confirm anything - that is what is called: "la-la".

                    Our iron is an ordinary troll. It's useless to argue with him, he never answers uncomfortable questions, always ignores the arguments refuting his lies. He jumps from one topic to another, waiting until you accidentally touch on his nationality. Then the standard accusations of racism. He also likes to find fault with the wording, digging into the dictionary meanings of words, delving into philosophy, etc. However, he requires others to follow his own rules.
                    Quote: ironic
                    For you, this is not a red rag, but grammar is ugly, how can you, but this is possible, this is not grammar.

                    At the same time, he kind of positions himself as a cultured person with a higher education. But he doesn't understand the difference between grammar and spelling at all. Seems to be confusing "grammar" with "literacy". These are literate people who teach us not to pick our noses. repeat
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT April 20 2021 17: 15
    +6
    Except for laughter, your reasoning about international law does not cause.
    The degradation of international security treaties and so on was the fault of the western side. It is not the Russian Federation that has approached NATO's borders, it is NATO at the borders of the Russian Federation.
    And now only one right is in effect, the right of the strong.
    Ukraine is not an independent international entity, a territory of instability. There can be no question of any application of international law to this unfinished business, since the government there is not legitimate (it came to power through a military coup), as well as because of the fascist ideology, raised to the rank of national. And fascism, as you know, is prohibited by international law.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 18: 09
      -6
      Are these your personal wishes or is it fixed somewhere in international documents? Is there a document on the humor of international law? What is not? I thought so. Your reasoning has not gone far from fascism, which you call to fight. Start with yourself.
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT April 20 2021 21: 38
        +4
        Yes, you and others like you do not know how to read when it is not profitable for you. Should we talk about the UN resolution on the rehabilitation of fascism? But this does not prevent Ukraine at the state level from honoring the fascist criminals from the SS Galitchin, elevating fiends from the UPA to the rank of heroes, making Stepan Bender a national pride, who actively collaborated with the Reich.
        You are a two-faced slime, about how you began to appeal to international law, when it became profitable, "protect the native Ukraine"))
        Why do you not recognize the entry of the Crimea into the Russian Federation ??? According to the procedure of international law, it entered the Russian Federation and Ukraine did not even formalize it in the UN, de jure Crimea was never Ukrainian
        Your Russophobia is true fascism. You actively cultivate it in Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states, Kazakhstan, even in the Russian Federation itself you are trying. However, the Russians are to blame and you are trying with all your might to instill a sense of guilt. We are well aware of your methods. Propagandist.

        According to the norms of international law, the Russian Federation can introduce peacekeepers to stop the civil war, send troops to restore constitutional order in the country, there are many options.
        1. ironic
          ironic April 21 2021 20: 30
          -2
          Fascism is unlawful everywhere. Its manifestations in Ukraine must be fought as well as elsewhere. But this does not give the right to tear Ukraine apart. First, you will correct your hypocrisy, and then we will talk about my duplicity. If I want you to post an example of Russian fascism here, I have already shown it in two topics. De facto, the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation is not stupid to recognize, De jure is unrecognized, and I have described above why. Your slander on me will not make me racist, and your racism will not wash you off. Your vain is deeply immoral. Who are you? Are the Israelis cultivating Russophobia everywhere? Have you completely lost your mind? We cooperate with you without participating in saknktsi by the way.

          According to the norms of international law, the Russian Federation can introduce peacekeepers only with the approval of the UN Security Council. And only the Security Council and the countries that signed the guarantees can together decide whether the constitutionality has been violated in Ukraine, and not a separate country.
          1. JonnyT
            JonnyT April 22 2021 11: 32
            +1
            Oh, there it is)))) now it is clear why you are so defending the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Alas, Israel will not be allowed to revive the kaganate in the territories of Ukraine. It's not for you to accuse me of hypocrisy. You yourself are thirsty for a piece, yes, to bite off more fat from Ukraine and cover it all up with a deceitful contract. We all know the great chauvinist inclinations of the sons of Israel, and there will be more fascism in you, your God's chosenness alone is worth something.
          2. ironic
            ironic April 25 2021 00: 28
            -2
            Yes, that's it. You yourself turn out to be a Nazi and some other. So far, the territory of Ukraine is not divided at all by Israel. And we will trade with both Ukraine and Russia, and such anti-Semites as you will not stop it. For the time being, you are demonstrating great chauvinistic tendencies. Would you like to talk about being chosen? One godhood is worth ... I am not interested in your anti-human, racist slogans, from which you still smell brown. I appeal only to people with a morality developed to a human condition.
          3. JonnyT
            JonnyT April 25 2021 15: 41
            +1
            No, I am not a Nazi or an anti-Semite.
            RF does not benefit from a hostile formation at the borders.

            You are a Nazi yourself, why did you invade Syria without UN sanction?
            And your beloved suzerain generally wanted to spit on international law and regularly invade, occupy, interfere in the internal affairs of other internationally recognized states.

            It is beneficial for you to accuse others of chauvinism, Nazism, intolerance - you do it.
            When it is beneficial for you to behave in a fascist way, you do it too. This is your essence, your two-faced deceitful insides. When someone does justice, it jars and scares you, you feel a threat to yourself, because you yourself understand that in justice, in truth, there is no life for you, there is no possibility of oppression and exploitation of others.

            And now, if the Russian Federation introduces troops into Ukraine, then a fat piece will be taken from your mouth, which you unfairly consider yours.
          4. ironic
            ironic April 25 2021 16: 32
            -1
            Well, work on the political front, 80 thousand bayonets on the border won't make education friendly.

            I do not produce racist and misanthropic demarches, unlike you. Therefore, myself .... does not pass. Israel did not invade the territory of Syria, it was Syria that provided its territory for a group hostile to Israel that fired on Israeli territory more than once, and in a peaceful resort and residential cities. On this she asked the UN sanctions? And did the UN decree on the demilitarized dividing line with Israel fulfill?

            Not profitable, but fair in the light of the theses of chauvinism, Nazism and intolerance that you have voiced. Do not voice, there will be no accusations. For one thing, do not spread false bloody slander. This is your essence, change the essence and the world will change around you. Then your two-faced deceitful insides (C), permeated with military hysteria, racism and blood libel, will not serve you for habitual reflection on others, others are not necessarily like you. What other justice after all the misanthropy that you have written here? You have no idea what justice is, only hatred and anger, and yes, your reflective devils are still jarring with anger and hatred. What? Operation? So you're also red to everything brown? This is generally a finish in the last resort, a combination of a militarist and a racist with a Red Marxist beggarly. And Th only for Ukraine then? Why don't you call for a ride to the Atlantic with tanks? There are also many expocatars living there. Yours, too, have settled a lot, at the same time you will get rid of your own. Take away and divide everything. Ktob doubted. And who will survive in Gulagi. For the good of the red rogues of all countries. And then who else will give you a piece.
          5. JonnyT
            JonnyT April 25 2021 21: 44
            0
            80 thousand bayonets at the border are also an element of politics. This is an absolutely adequate response to the escalation of violence on the part of the Ukrainian discontent. After Donbass there will be Crimea, then Rostov and Voronezh. We all remember the militaristic statements of the Ukrainian authorities

            There is absolutely no anger, you what. Only cold calculation. There is black, there is white. There is good and evil.
            What Ukraine and the countries supporting it are doing is evil.
            They killed civilians, fired at women from planes, and then lied about air conditioning hypocritically. And all due to the fact that people refused to accept a foreign language, foreign culture and bend their backs under strangers.

            Again, old songs about the main thing began "bloody gebnya, gulags"))))))
            Well, sing, this nonsense, seasoned with beautiful words that have no semantic meaning, I will not even consider.

            If you need to get there, we'll definitely get there Let's kill the evil in its nest
          6. ironic
            ironic April 25 2021 21: 58
            +1
            Is it to trample Ukraine with only boots without weapons? There are enough stupid politicians with their statements not only in Ukraine. And what is TMV?

            No, there are still many shades of gray and no perversions. There is no good or evil, there is construction and destruction, for good or for harm, and it is still necessary to watch who and why. It was not only the Ukrainians who were shooting at the peaceful people, but also at the language and culture. And strangers are looking at who and looking at who. The point of view matters.

            Good nonsense if people have thoughts in this direction. Here they are singing about the destruction of an entire country and nothing, no remorse.

            And you yourself will appoint evil and will kill everywhere where you decide? This kind of good is called genocide.
          7. JonnyT
            JonnyT April 25 2021 22: 52
            0
            This country has long been destroyed.
            She was burnt in Odessa, tortured to death in the dungeons of the SBU, shot dead in the entrance of her own house.

            The authorities that prohibit dissent, introduce strict censorship, shoot down their own citizens, and persecute citizens for their political beliefs are criminal and illegitimate.

            What can we talk about if even now the Ukrainian authorities do not want to restore a constructive, mutually respectful dialogue, seek compromises, despite the generous position of the Russian Federation? The Russian Federation is open for contacts - go to Moscow, negotiate with the LDNR and there will be peace, peace and integrity.
            Through the efforts of the current leaders of Ukraine, the political settlement has reached an impasse, Ukraine is unable to negotiate. She does not fulfill her obligations. If the politicians cannot agree, then the military begins to talk.

            So the territorial integrity and independence are exclusively in the hands of Ukraine - it is enough to fulfill the Minsk agreements, withdraw the army and establish trade and economic relations.
            And if Ukraine does not want peace, but wants war, then it will get it
          8. ironic
            ironic April 26 2021 18: 37
            +1
            Is that how you decided? Who authorized you?

            A crime has been committed in Odessa, it must be investigated, and the perpetrators must be punished, but the territorial integrity of Ukraine is not subject to violation in connection with this particular crime. The SBU is basically the same body as the Rossguard, no worse and no better.

            People in Russia are also persecuted for dissent. And in Russia there is far from soft censorship.

            And what is the generous position of the Russian Federation? RF offered Ukraine adequate compensation for the annexation of Crimea? The Russian Federation proposed effective ways to end the conflict in eastern Ukraine, which may be acceptable to a country from which a significant piece of territory is alienated and a war is going on for it with the explicit military support of the Russian Federation, for reasons for which, for example, the entire top of the Catalan parliament was transplanted in Spain, and the speeches were dispersed by the police and the army? And what is the Russian Federation more negotiable? Has the Russian Federation fulfilled its obligation in the signed international treaty on guaranteeing the integrity of Ukraine?

            What will happen if Ukraine withdraws the army? RF will again let its 80 thousand. For exercises? With such a number, you can trample half of Ukraine without weapons. 80 thousand bayonets on the border is such a desire for peace? She has already received both annexation and war despite the guarantee agreement, why should she believe that she will receive peace?
  • didra
    didra April 20 2021 22: 00
    +1
    Look with what speed and passion this "ironic" person leads a conversation. Read it on other branches and see what kind of miracle it is in feathers. He has nothing to do with our affairs at all, he just passed by and now ... Hooked! This is a rare kind of political trolling that you can't even say that it is a bot.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 21 2021 20: 31
      -2
      Are you jealous of me? Hide it at least. It won't look so disgusting.
  • didra
    didra April 20 2021 21: 54
    +1
    Are you a Ukrainian?
    1. ironic
      ironic April 21 2021 20: 31
      -2
      Are you talking to me? Me not.
      1. didra
        didra April 21 2021 21: 29
        +1
        Maybe you are Russian then? Or a Belarusian? Not? Why then are you getting into our family showdown? What was your name? Not! But you think that it is possible and uninvited to interfere and broadcast about international law. And while you and your "good friends" lull us and pull rubber, people (our close relatives) will grow up who will hate us. So this is not just an exchange of opinions and chatter on the Internet, what are you doing here, but the most banal propaganda
        1. ironic
          ironic April 25 2021 00: 35
          -2
          Family showdown? Why didn’t they stay in the kitchen, if it’s a narrow-family get-together? Why did your relatives decide to display them? If so, then they called. Otherwise, these showdowns would not have been put to a vote at the UN. About international law - yes it is possible and necessary. Hatred does not arise from scratch, it is cultivated. By the way, you are also doing this, and this is not propaganda, but already its result. And that's exactly what I'm talking about. They do not go to peace agreements on the wave of military hysteria; on the wave of military hysteria they only go to war.
          1. didra
            didra April 25 2021 09: 14
            +1
            You did not answer how this has to do with you. Who are you?
          2. ironic
            ironic April 25 2021 14: 57
            -1
            It has to do with people who are not indifferent to me in Kharkov and Smolensk, respectively. Duzi and relatives. I am a human and I am a forum user participating in discussions. This is not your personal LJ, but a forum available to everyone, including international users.
          3. didra
            didra April 25 2021 18: 49
            +1
            And that these people, who are not indifferent to you, ask you as a User of the Forum to protect them from Russian aggression?
  • vl903
    vl903 April 20 2021 14: 00
    +9
    to free their relatives and the "mother of Russian cities" from the Nazis is this revanchism? and tomorrow to give you your wife and children for ashes for fertilizers?
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 15: 13
      -7
      To violate the country's sovereignty forcibly in order to return the territories of the USSR is revanchism. It is racism and great-power chauvinism to declare everyone living there polls as fascists. And to give such parallels about the ashes is the worst form of hypocrisy for the sake of fanning war hysteria.
      1. vl903
        vl903 April 20 2021 17: 27
        +2
        revanchism is an attempt to sever the territories of the USSR and the Russian Empire. Attempts to cover up the fascists with the entire population of Ukraine are arrogance. And we have already seen the ashes in Odessa and now you openly declare that you want to make Donbass a scorched earth.
        1. ironic
          ironic April 20 2021 17: 50
          -8
          Am I claiming? Are you out of your mind? What does the territory of the USSR and the Russian Empire mean? This is revanchism in its purest form. Nobody is going to shield the fascists. No one justifies the Odessa lawlessness, but the Kiev lawlessness of the Berkut people was not less, but greater, and their Kharkov attempt was no less criminal, the local authorities simply did not allow it to be realized, despite the perfect Russian-speaking of the city and its leadership, which certainly had no connections with Western nationalists.
          1. vl903
            vl903 April 20 2021 18: 05
            +2
            fascists and American revanchism are nurtured and protected by you. The golden eagle is apparently to blame only for the fact that it was under the bullets of your friends, Georgian snipers, as well as the KGB special forces at the Riga television center? The training manuals would at least be changed, although why, after all, it works? Let them clarify your position point by point. The USSR is it good or bad? Russian Empire-? Russian language-? Why should Russia and the USSR surrender their people and lands to amers and not vice versa? How many centuries would it take to hang those who shot at the burned people in Odessa and tortured our soldiers in Chechnya? For whom should Russia tolerate this impudence?
            1. ironic
              ironic April 20 2021 18: 50
              -6
              Yeah, a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine. The golden eagle is to blame for having obeyed the orders of unauthorized people who are not in uniform, like a bandit formation, to kill unarmed people with iron truncheons. There were no shots fired on the first day of student protests, all power confrontations began after this ill-fated day, a bloody massacre by primitive beasts who did not disperse the rally, but surrounded and beaten to death. Do you call this a manual? And after that you say that a crime was committed in Odessa? And there is no difference. And there and there the beast acted, but for you it turns out there may be your own beast.
              The USSR was both good and bad. As a whole, as a phenomenon, it is more bad than good. The Russian empire was, as it was, it also had a lot of things, different depending on who and when squeezed in power. The Russian language, a language as a language, is no better and no worse than any other in terms of attitude. Chechnya has nothing to do with the topic. A crime has been committed in Odessa. But this does not negate the Berkut's crime. Do not forget that you are talking about the internal affairs of another state. I, too, do not like everything in any other g-wah, I consider it arrogance or not.
              1. vl903
                vl903 April 21 2021 05: 52
                +1
                I do not consider Ukraine to be another state. Of course, you really want me to give up both my relatives and the land, for the sake of someone's benefit. According to Berkut: if they want to suppress the uprising, act
                They are like in the USA - they bring in a lot of troops and police and begin to shoot en masse in order to discourage the desire to protest. what you describe in its purest form is a provocation, designed to warm up the crowd. from here, in combination with the rest of the signs, the conclusion is the order of the USA
                1. ironic
                  ironic April 21 2021 18: 05
                  -2
                  And you forgive who? UN Security Council? Representative of the Russian Federation in the Security Council? Or maybe a representative of the Russian Federation who signed the guarantees of the integrity of Mr. Ukraine together with other countries as guarantors?
                  When they want to disperse unauthorized riots, they introduce internal affairs forces in execution, in uniform and statutory equipment and with a constitutional order, subject to the control of the country's supreme court, and not a disguised bandit formation according to an unconstitutional hidden scheme, which does not disperse, but surrounds the unarmed crowd and beats to death with iron , with non-statutory batons. And then they do not blame anyone, including the United States, for this, but they understand the parliament of their own country, and do not get out of it. No one in a legal country has the right to discourage a desire to protest, this is a constitutional right in any legal country. The man who killed a woman with a pistol in the United States for the broken glass of parliament is the same criminal and bandit with a weapon, as I already wrote about in English.
                  1. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 18: 37
                    +1
                    and who was a simple Soviet soldier who shot Bandera like mad dogs? Did the UN help him? Your provocateurs were clearly beaten with iron truncheons, because it is beneficial only to you and fully fit into the Maidan scenario. and ears stick out there the same as in the collapse of the USSR and the attempt on Lukashenka's life. Your methods of staging coups have not changed for the last 100 years at least. Only fans of comics with one gyrus can believe you. If Yanukovych had not fled, he would have repeated the fate of Hussein. where are his chemical weapons?
                  2. ironic
                    ironic April 21 2021 19: 20
                    -2
                    My grandfathers as well. That was who they were. They were helped by the anti-Hitler coalition, yes. Who are yours? There were definitely no Israelis among those you describe. And whoever scored is known beforehand, they are still being tried for this, the Berkut people are in disguise. Overfished them. And in Kharkov and did not have time to change. I don’t know how many coups the Israelis have staged, but your replicas, stamped like a blueprint, are copied one to one, thoughtlessly to everyone. I never feel sorry for Hussein. He was neither white nor fluffy, but how chemical weapons suddenly surfaced was clearly visible in Syria.
                  3. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 19: 36
                    +1
                    Israel is alive as long as the United States is alive. therefore completely under their propaganda. which is good and visible for you. You have not answered simple questions: who benefited from the successful Maidan? the people of Ukraine? USA? Russia? here will be the answer to the provocation sewn by your master with white thread. and your grandfather would hardly have lived for a long time to stay in his garden for an overnight camp of the same "Azov". but it doesn't matter to you, does it? the enemy of the Russian friend to you even if he is a fascist?
                  4. ironic
                    ironic April 21 2021 20: 12
                    -2
                    And those. now I told you which training manual to get and you changed the stamps to more suitable ones? And we also eat Christian babies on Passover, have we forgotten? Of course I answer your questions. Maidan turned out to be beneficial to Ukrainian corrupt officials, who took advantage of the people's just indignation at the crime of the authorities. Of course, the West and the Russian Federation pulled the Ukrainian blanket from each other and both sides to the detriment of the Ukrainian people. Particularly for the Russian Federation, these are naval bases and their direct communication with Tartus, and the protection of the Russians in Ukraine is only an excuse, but never a reason. The West, on the other hand, wanted this straight axis of the bases of the Russian Navy to be open and the influence of the Russian Federation in the Black Sea and, as a consequence, the Mediterranean region to fall. But it is necessary to solve political problems at political tables, and not to bring down people in batches and tear countries to shreds. The wisest thing is to accuse me of fascism. This is generally the limit of mental activity. And I also sleep and see a Russian in sour cream under the marinade. Well I was born cannibal, and Russian is a special delicacy for me. Do you even read yourself before posting? Or hate has long been filled with red eyes?
                  5. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 20: 22
                    +1
                    Well, you accuse me of the same feelings that your grandfathers experienced. They could also call on Germany for a long time to investigate crimes against the Soviet people and say that to fight against Germany is a crime and a violation of international law, etc. and it seems like this was said by some countries that were profitable until they themselves began to be bombed. and by the way, did not the Jews come up with Christianity?
                  6. ironic
                    ironic April 25 2021 00: 54
                    -2
                    You came up with something about my grandfathers, which is impossible to understand, not what to present. Christianity was invented by Saul. Judging by my mother, they are still Jews.
                  7. vl903
                    vl903 April 25 2021 16: 43
                    +1
                    your grandfathers violated boundaries, used force to punish evil. and you are trying to justify evil. and Christianity is still yours, but it was planted for us, so it is very convenient to manage people.
                  8. ironic
                    ironic April 25 2021 17: 25
                    -1
                    It is you who are trying to create an image of evil that is convenient for you, not wanting to notice the most diverse evil that is inconvenient to notice.
                    All known religious paradigms include developed elements of public administration and even secular communities and legal systems are mainly based on them, so this is an inevitable hereditary tradition, which the Jews have talked about since antiquity, the tradition passed on, largely determines the behavior of the human community. But Christianity today is still a non-Jewish tradition.
                  9. vl903
                    vl903 April 25 2021 21: 45
                    0
                    Well, it seems that the Romans took it from the Jews, adapted it for themselves, and slipped it to the slaves?
                  10. ironic
                    ironic April 25 2021 21: 52
                    0
                    A bit wrong. They killed the Jews, then long spread rot slaves, and then decided that there is a tsimes in this matter.
    2. vl903
      vl903 April 21 2021 19: 40
      +1
      no chemical weapons were found in Hussein's, but what was found in Syria? weren't they white helmets?
    3. ironic
      ironic April 21 2021 19: 51
      -1
      White helmets are for yellow media. And besides that, the Israeli hospitals turned out to be quite real poisoned, but this can no longer be refuted. And we can't hide this even if we wanted to.
    4. vl903
      vl903 April 21 2021 20: 01
      +1
      1.How could they end up in Israeli hospitals? 2. Who is it worth finding chemical weapons from Assad when he is flattened from all sides and he said that he did not have chemical weapons? and supposedly using it does not give him any advantages, but only a bunch of disadvantages? beneficial only to the United States and the vassals Israel and Turkey. not even funny
    5. ironic
      ironic April 25 2021 00: 57
      -2
      And in Israeli hospitals, who only from southern Syria did not turn up, even the Syrian soldiers. Everybody was treated. Well, I can also fantasize about who benefits from what. What's the point? Mal; does anyone want to think of something about? Our results quickly get into the media and even the highest court, let alone the Knesset, fails to shut up our media.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 21 2021 19: 45
    +1
    while you have no arguments bylo.krome desire that everyone would come to terms with the occupation of part of Russia and the reformatting of Russians there into Ukrainians. and an excuse for those with whom your grandfather fought. Who are you after that?
  • ironic
    ironic April 21 2021 19: 58
    -2
    My grandfather was a captain of the KA mortar guards, who fired the first salvo near Moscow and took Prague, and the second was a disabled war veteran who became a cripple in the very first bombing. These are not arguments, but you deliberately instilled in yourself blindness to the arguments and continue racist rhetoric, and I have nothing to justify in front of you. In my life, I have not done anything bad to either the Ukrainians as a nation or the Russians as a nation, and I gave my military duty to the USSR from call to call.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 21 2021 20: 03
    +1
    then explain why do you think the US fascist occupation of Ukraine is good? and from where such a love for Bandera?
  • ironic
    ironic April 25 2021 15: 03
    -1
    And who established the fact of the occupation of the United States and that it is good in our opinion (that is, in Israel?)? Whose court and under what legislation established that it was fascist?
  • Sarboz
    Sarboz April 25 2021 23: 09
    0
    Quote: vl903
    while you have no arguments bylo.krome desire that everyone would come to terms with the occupation of part of Russia and the reformatting of Russians there into Ukrainians. and an excuse for those with whom your grandfather fought. Who are you after that?

    Obviously a real traitor. A man without clan and tribe, who betrayed the memory of his grandfathers. Outcast.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 20 2021 14: 04
    +10
    integrity of a sovereign country
    that you have selective sensitivity. how to genocide Russians in Ukraine, this is democracy, but how about you as in Nyurberg on the gallows is this revanchism? this is a game in one, convenient for you gate!
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 15: 16
      -5
      No, each passenger has a soft seat. The crime in Odessa must be investigated, but so will the crime on the first day of student protest in Kiev. The revival of collaborators and just bandits as heroes should be unequivocally condemned, as should extreme forms of nationalism, but this is not a reason to justify the same actions on the other side of the barricades.
      1. vl903
        vl903 April 20 2021 17: 45
        +2
        while the fascists in Ukraine are in power there are no investigations, and they will not punish themselves and the amers. and student speeches for some reason on one manual always, why is it?
        1. ironic
          ironic April 20 2021 18: 03
          -5
          In Ukraine, inadequate racists are present in the power structures, but the statement that all the fascists came to power in Ukraine is a racist statement in itself. Whatever methodical book you may see in student protests, it is a crime to kill them with non-standard metal truncheons.
          1. vl903
            vl903 April 20 2021 18: 17
            +1
            Knowing the same US methods in all countries and seeing who has bonuses from the collapse of the USSR and the genocide of Ukraine, there is no doubt that denigrating the Golden Eagle is a common US job. would not like to play along with the United States and disperse the rallies, would have done as in China or the United States. and so it was only beneficial to amers. This is confirmed by all subsequent events. Hence the conclusion is the only way to end murder and genocide, to take power and hang all amerskih curators in the country and their accomplices. Then you can investigate the students and who and how set up Berkut.
            1. ironic
              ironic April 20 2021 18: 21
              -5
              The fact that Berkut committed a crime, I figured out personally and went to find it out in Ukraine. What you write next, as a doctrine of action, is no different from fascism, so start with yourself.
              1. vl903
                vl903 April 20 2021 18: 44
                +2
                OK. the fact that the provocation was a success - they found out. who needed it and who paid for and organized further Maidan found out?
                1. ironic
                  ironic April 20 2021 20: 08
                  -5
                  And who needed to start the repression, and even by illegal means? Who paid for it? Whom did you have to scare at the root and quickly from the idea of ​​European orientation? It is clear that both sides have done well. The West got into the political situation in Ukraine for the sake of weakening the positions of Russia and merged when it got hot, and the Russian Federation did not find a better way out how to roll the situation into a confrontation with victims, a military clash and annexation of territories, for the sake of a naval base in Crimea and a direct bridge with Tartus in Middle-earth, the Russian minority in Ukraine was a pretext, not a reason. Everything is clear as day.
                  1. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 06: 10
                    +2
                    Russian nationality in Ukraine? And who else is there besides Poles, Moldovans, Jews, Hungarians? apart from the brainwashing of American propaganda, how to distinguish a Russian from a Ukrainian? and what is this? another accent, supposedly Volga or Belgorod?
                  2. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 06: 26
                    +2
                    Russia expanded in territories to the East of Kievan Rus. Therefore, with the exception of migrants and neighbors, everyone is Russian, there is no Russian.
                  3. ironic
                    ironic April 21 2021 17: 55
                    -2
                    This is a racist statement bordering on Nazism.
                  4. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 18: 28
                    +1
                    Russian Russian is Nazism? and call white white? oh sorry, according to your training manual, is this racism? by what criteria do you determine who is Russian or Ukrainian in front of you?
                  5. ironic
                    ironic April 21 2021 19: 04
                    -2
                    Self-identification is defined by the nation as a community. I do not measure the size of the ears and nose at all. If I want to know how they enroll in the Papuans of New Guinea, I will ask the Ministry of the Interior of Papua New Guinea what is the national tradition of this people, and I will not go with my samovar, let alone impose national self-identification on another people. to declare a Ukrainian Russian against his will is both racism and great-power chauvinism, even partly genocide.
                  6. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 19: 09
                    +1
                    Well, if a Ukrainian is a purely American brainwashing, then how is he different from a janissary? and why do you think that there are many Ukrainians in Ukraine? now, as always, Ukrainians are in the minority, how would you not like it ...
                  7. ironic
                    ironic April 21 2021 20: 21
                    -2
                    I don't count anything. Considers the CSB of Ukraine. Ukrainians are the titular nation in the country of Ukraine, the rest of the national minorities, no matter how you want it.
                  8. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 20: 31
                    +1
                    Ukrainian power under American occupation. the value of her statements is the same as that of the American. Israel is an order of magnitude more independent, although it is dependent on the United States. there is no faith in the United States and their desires. So the majority of Russians in Ukraine, but they are under occupation.
                  9. ironic
                    ironic April 25 2021 00: 49
                    -2
                    Will you prove it to the UN? Will the Gwa members vote for this proof? And if not, then this is nothing more than your personal opinion. Faith has nothing to do with it. There are agreements and they are written in black and white and are binding on the signatory countries. And the Russian Federation belongs to them. There were 14 percent or a little more Russians in Ukraine on the periphery even before the 17th year. Don't make up fables.
                  10. vl903
                    vl903 April 25 2021 07: 54
                    +1
                    The UN is just a voluntary body for country consultation. as long as it suits them. and in such a cunning way, the Jews can be written as Arabs all brainwashed and they will gladly destroy the remaining Jews. while people are not satisfied with the war will be. un borders and laws are in effect as long as everyone is happy with everything
                  11. ironic
                    ironic April 25 2021 15: 01
                    0
                    Legislation is generally valid across the board as long as it is appropriately supported. This characterizes civilization. Are you annoyed by its thin layer above the animal in a person? Are you calling to the Middle Ages or even further to the gnarled clubs in your hands and to the side of the road? Don't you think that this will affect you too?
                  12. vl903
                    vl903 April 25 2021 16: 38
                    +1
                    this has already affected my relatives in Ukraine because of your friends, whom you are so diligently bleaching
                  13. ironic
                    ironic April 25 2021 17: 48
                    -1
                    I have friends and relatives in Kharkov and relatives in Smolensk, they were also affected on both sides. I am not making excuses for anyone, one of those who are involved in crimes, but unlike you, I look at both sides of the coin.
                  14. vl903
                    vl903 April 25 2021 21: 57
                    +1
                    you are watching from a convenient time point for Bandera. rewind a hundred or a thousand years ago and view the entire history of russia. and you will see that all the deaths and genocide of the past 30 years are on the conscience of the Americans. and the last hundred Anglo-Saxons
                  15. ironic
                    ironic April 26 2021 18: 49
                    +1
                    I look from the starting point - the signing of an international treaty on guarantees of the territorial integrity of the subject of Ukraine, who voluntarily refused to own nuclear weapons. This is the only legal reference point under international standards.
                    And the neobanderites in Ukraine, this is not all of Ukraine, but an illegal group among the population, which Ukraine should put outside the law. But this does not give anyone the right to equate the whole of Ukraine with this group.
  • ironic
    ironic April 21 2021 17: 54
    -2
    Do you deny Ukrainians the right to national independence? This is racism.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 21 2021 18: 25
    +1
    a Russian Ukrainian is also a Tula or a Magadan, but you want them, like the Janissaries, to hate everything Russian
  • ironic
    ironic April 21 2021 19: 06
    -2
    To hate a person on the basis of ethnicity is disgusting. And what is a Ukrainian, leave it to the Ukrainians to decide, this is their national right, nobody else's.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 21 2021 19: 53
    +1
    so and about what? leave people on the territory of Russia alone, take the fascists and amerskih instructors and curators for yourself. and the people there will figure out who they need.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 21 2021 18: 58
    +1
    the only ones who benefited from the Maidan -USA. since Yanukovych was ours and yours. The gas swayed, our base in Sevastopol was not touched. money from the transit of our ships through the Kerch Strait was milked. motor vehicles from Europe to Russia went. with the arrival of the Maidan, it was possible to catch up with the US fleet. strangle Russia with the Kerch Strait. blackmail with a gas pipeline. and come to grips with the same rejection of Belarus. Russia only lost from the Maidan. Just managed to spoil the raspberries to the Shtatovites, saving from the Odessa horror of the Russians in the Crimea, who were already threatened with might and main by the Crimean Turks (whom you call for some reason Tatars, Tatars are completely genetically different people, from the banks of the Volga), having nothing to do to the indigenous peoples of Crimea. So the provocation with the Berkut is your handiwork, the USA!
  • forester1971
    forester1971 April 20 2021 19: 34
    +2
    Did you go to Ukraine to investigate the facts of the "crimes" of the Berkut? You are probably the plenipotentiary representative of the UN Security Council? Sorry for not finding out!
    But seriously, you have already mentioned 20-30 times international law, and you know how many laws, both international and the USSR itself, were violated during its collapse? That is, it can be argued that the collapse of the USSR was illegal and demand its restoration under the auspices of Russia.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 20: 32
      -5
      I went about my business, I visit Kharkov from time to time, and along the way I decided to figure it out myself. It turned out on the first day on the square in Kiev there were people whom I know personally. I am human and can draw my own personal conclusions. The UN made their own. If they correlate, then I will definitely not apologize for this. And how much was violated by other gentlemen? Which governments directly acted on the territory of a sovereign country without its sanction and made decisions related to its integrity? Maybe the USSR was dissolved? What territories were annexed to entities other than the republics that were part of the USSR?
      1. forester1971
        forester1971 April 20 2021 20: 54
        +1
        There is no point in talking to you about something, some kind of stream of consciousness. Judging by the number and content of comments, this is your job. I see no point in arguing over the principle - "d.u.r.a. itself." I do not have such a task - to convince you, so happily stay with your convictions.
      2. ironic
        ironic April 20 2021 21: 19
        -5
        Well, what else do you have to write? Well, do not write to yourself - the drain is counted. Therefore, it is necessary to unsubscribe with a stamp on duty, call someone a fool and with a contented look consider the work done. Dissent is defeated.
      3. forester1971
        forester1971 April 20 2021 21: 22
        +2
        If they don't want to talk to you further, is it a "drain"? There is no need to answer the question - it is rhetorical.
        By the way, no one called you a fool - you yourself think so.
      4. didra
        didra April 20 2021 22: 07
        +3
        He is repulsed, I can say by my example. This is his credo to never agree on anything. Slides like a bar of soap all the time. After all, he understands that they are trying to divide his relatives and still bleeds about international law.
      5. ironic
        ironic April 21 2021 20: 43
        -2
        Well, you and the soup, however, I actually always wrote that the conflict between Ukraine and Russia is a tragedy that seemed unthinkable yesterday. But this does not change everything else. And as for my relatives, do I divide myself between Kharkov and Smolensk? No, I was forcibly divided between them.
      6. didra
        didra April 21 2021 21: 14
        +1
        It turns out like this. My parents live in the Kharkiv region and relatives in Sumy, and at one time I wrote control tests on the history of this region. My brothers cousins ​​grew up in "non-legacy" and I can see how it affected them. So tell about international law to those who do not understand what the division of our people means. The one who stops this, this imaginary "nezlazhnist" that will go down in history on a par with St. Vladimir.
      7. ironic
        ironic April 25 2021 00: 39
        -2
        How did it affect them? How did the other side of the barricades affect you? Stop what? Do your cousins ​​agree to this? Or will they stop and it will go down in history?
      8. didra
        didra April 25 2021 09: 25
        +1
        So many questions. Do you turn on the fool?
      9. ironic
        ironic April 25 2021 13: 40
        -1
        Well, you do it all the time, but it doesn't bother you?
      10. didra
        didra April 25 2021 14: 38
        +1
        A question to a question.
      11. ironic
        ironic April 25 2021 14: 53
        -1
        And what is wrong?
      12. didra
        didra April 25 2021 18: 55
        +1
        Have you turned on the fool again?
      13. ironic
        ironic April 25 2021 20: 07
        -1
        I already wrote that this does not bother you when you want to turn it on.
      14. didra
        didra April 25 2021 20: 14
        +1
        And I wrote to you that we will figure out how to live without you. This is not your business, dear.
      15. ironic
        ironic April 25 2021 20: 24
        -1
        And I wrote to you that this is a public, and internationally, forum, and not your personal LJ, so everyone here expresses their opinion, whether you like it or not. Moreover, we are not talking about the internal affairs of the Russian Federation.
      16. didra
        didra April 25 2021 20: 51
        +2
        You can write, you are not forbidden. Inner you are ours. Just your opinion is not taken into account. And I already wrote to you about the reasons for this. You fucked up the whole thread with your unnecessary comments to anyone here. As from a machine gun scribbled. People taught you cons and forgot about you. But thanks to you, it didn't work out a normal conversation. That's all. I had a separate interest in you, but you also managed to tire me out.
        PS
        If you stick your nose into other people's affairs all the time, you can stay without a nose, and without work). Don't consider this a threat. You just turn people up against your people and state with your flood. Acting as an ambassador of ill will, so to speak.
        I wish you inner discoveries!
      17. ironic
        ironic April 25 2021 21: 00
        -2
        It is not taken into account by you, this is your own business. What is needed and what is not needed, you decide for yourself, and I will decide for myself. You will zasera it now with your boorish answer to me, but it does not bother you. Have you set the cons? There is such a wisdom - do not follow the majority to evil! This is not a normal conversation, if you consider it the norm, then this is already a perversion. Tired? You are free not to answer, your choice.

        PS I have already explained to you, if you have not yet understood, here is a public forum and everyone who is interested in the discussion participates, you will have to live with it. You are fanning a war hysteria with your flame, which may end badly, but it consoles you that it’s not for you personally, but it’s immoral consolation. It is not for you to write about ill will, you are not the best example of goodwill. I and external discoveries in this topic have already made several times.
  • ironic
    ironic April 21 2021 20: 42
    -2
    And to write rhetorical questions means the devils in the closet are forced, however. Itself from the third person is still that rhetoric. In general, rhetoric is a science, at least one must respect it. You also decided for me what I think. Symptomatic. Pass your reflection off as mine.
  • Sarboz
    Sarboz April 26 2021 01: 23
    +1
    Quote: Forester1971
    Did you go to Ukraine to investigate the facts of the "crimes" of the Berkut? You are probably the plenipotentiary representative of the UN Security Council? Sorry for not finding out!

    This iron is a provocateur. This nonsense about the Berkut's crimes has already ceased to be chewed even in Ukraine. Because it's a lie. But in reality, almost all the crimes of the Maidan were filmed and documented. Let this Israeli defender of Bandera at least once bring proof of his false words.
    Quote: ironic
    And whoever scored is known beforehand, they are still being tried for this, the Berkut people are in disguise. Overfished them. And in Kharkov and did not have time to change.
  • ironic
    ironic April 21 2021 19: 23
    -3
    Do you know a lot of Israelis at the gallows at Nuremberg? Or are you writing a carbon copy? Genocide is abhorrent to any nation. Don't you just have one gate. Look at the posts like cliches on slogans, the same as Siamese twins.
  • ABC-schütze
    ABC-schütze April 20 2021 14: 15
    +9
    Cheating is not good ... First, neither Russia, nor the United States, nor Great Britain, etc. no "guarantees" were ever given to the coup. even in the notorious "Budapest Memorandum". Even this, declarative, not having the force of an international treaty and not ratified by the signatories, bearing a memorandum was signed with the LEGAL authorities of the former united Ukraine. And not coups ... And these LEGAL authorities (President Yanukovych, the legal government of the former united Ukraine (Azarov's government) and the legal Verkhovna Rada of the former united Ukraine). No official claims against Russia regarding the violation of treaty obligations or some kind of "occupation" of the Ukrainian territory have NEVER BEEN PRESENTED. And all subsequent, after the overthrow of the legitimate government, the "claims" of the coup d'état, by definition, do not have any legal force. For international law does not give any "guarantees" to the coup d'état. By the way, I recommend treating sclerosis, and remembering about the "guarantees" of the legal transfer of power given by the EU to the legitimate president of the former united Ukraine - Yanukovych? .. How about their "implementation"? .. How was it manifested? .. In the loyal reaction of the "democracies "on an attempt on the life of the President, on the constitutional immunity of the President and PUBLIC (under the lenses) CAPTURE by ragged crowds of his residence? ..
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 15: 20
      -7
      Cheating is not good, but why are you cheating? The guarantees were given to Ukraine and they are not dependent on its internal affairs. The legitimate authorities do not give illegal orders and do not flee from the dismantling of their actions in other countries. You have no right to interpret the concluded agreements in your own way, and this is the subject of international discussion de jure in terms of the integrity of the subject Ukraine.
      1. Maikcg
        Maikcg April 20 2021 17: 03
        +4
        Yes, there is no agreement and there are no guarantees how many times have already been repeated. Thanks to the gentlemen, they turned out comfortably. There is a Budapesh memo .. a reference document outlining views on the question of the existence of Ukraine after it was forced (by the Americans) to a nuclear-free status ..
        1. ironic
          ironic April 20 2021 17: 06
          -7
          In this it is internationally considered incompetent, the assertion that there are no obligations.
      2. ABC-schütze
        ABC-schütze April 20 2021 22: 38
        +2
        And you refute my "lie", if it does not complicate it ... First, the former Ukrainian state, which was unconstitutionally destroyed by the Kiev coup d'état, cannot have any "internal affairs", by definition. Precisely in the international legal sense, it cannot. For there is no longer a "state" left, but the territory of the former unified state, where the coup d'état, who failed to seize power throughout the territory of the former country, are trying to take revenge and subjugate the population of the territories of the former united Ukraine to their illegal power, who did not support the overthrow of the legitimate government. Secondly, what kind of "international law" obliges citizens who did not overthrow the legitimate government to obey the demands of the coup d'état and the "rules of the game", which they, without any legitimate reason, are trying to impose on the rest of the population of the former unified state? ..
        1. ironic
          ironic April 21 2021 18: 21
          -2
          It was unconstitutional to quietly send gangs to murder students, and then refuse to bear responsibility for this before parliament and flee the country. Start with this unconstitutionality. It is not you, but the coalition of the guarantor countries who decides whether it can or cannot, and not one country unilaterally and all other countries have not made this decision. No, you cannot decide alone that there is an international legal plan, it was not you who signed a guarantee agreement alone, and you were not alone with the UN Security Council. And you are not authorized to decide alone what is left, and you are not authorized to assert alone that this is international law. The legal authority does not issue illegal unconstitutional orders and does not disclaim responsibility for them. And that in Ukraine the legitimate power is decided by the newly assembled parliament of Ukraine, whether it likes it or not, and without the UN Security Council and all the countries that signed the guarantor, no one has a LEGAL right to decide what is legal and what is not.
      3. ABC-schütze
        ABC-schütze April 20 2021 22: 55
        +2
        So you, a lover of law, are dissatisfied with the "illegal" orders of the legal authorities and their "running" abroad? .. Duc, I remind you that for the LEGAL elimination of such authorities, the former united Ukraine had such a legal and constitutional means as an "impeachment procedure". Did you use it for the legal removal of power? .. Oh, no? .. Well, then rest. For now, according to the law, it is YOU who are criminals, and not some authority that gave "illegal" orders. "Illegal", orders in a legal way, in a timely manner, you have not contested. And, it means that all your "incantations - indignation" are nothing more than emotions, having nothing to do with law and law ...
        1. ironic
          ironic April 21 2021 18: 27
          -2
          Are you saying this "YOU" to me? I am not a resident and not a citizen of Ukraine and not even a Ukrainian by nationality. The impeachment procedure can only be carried out by a parliamentary investigation of the president present at it. Was it possible? Oh no? Escaped? Well, rest with him. The self-rejection was accepted. And now no one gave you the right to decide alone who is the criminal in Ukraine, but only the newly elected parliament, and its legitimacy or not can be confirmed or denied either by all the countries that gave the guarantor, or by the UN Security Council. And unilateral actions are precisely illegal actions, so the rest of the countries de jure refused to accept them. But your statements have nothing to do with legal norms. And none of the guarantor countries has accepted them and will not accept them, and the UN Security Council will not accept them.
  • Jcvai
    Jcvai April 20 2021 14: 27
    +5
    Only fascists live in Ukraine?

    If we remove the classic substitutions and pulls in the style of "this is another" and "a tear of a child", and consider only a political fact: when a country has a dictatorship or a monarchy, only its leader / invader is strictly responsible for the actions of the country, when democracy - the actions of the country reflect the will all citizens (at least those who are not clearly and obviously not fighting against the government). Tacit acceptance = approval = support! Accordingly, everyone in Ukraine who simply accepted the events against the Russians, from the Maidans to Donbass, Lugansk, Odessa, are logically supportive accomplices.
    It is just as logical, for example, as almost all capable Russians in 1991 support the collapse of the USSR, regardless of what they say to each other in the kitchens.

    The integrity of a sovereign country can be violated without a declaration of war, but by signing a guarantee of such?

    Integrity and sovereignty is a controversial and complex topic. Not to mention the history of the land, etc. But even with this approach, if your neighbor starts killing members of your family, if he invites your enemies to his place for a permanent stay, so that they harm you ... such a neighbor should hardly expect a good attitude towards him.
    And you can protect your own in different ways. Starting from the support of their own (what is now) and up to the invasion of regular troops, which has not yet happened. And as for mercenaries, sabotage, intelligence, etc. - this is a double-edged weapon: you cannot demand the same from others, while continuing to use it yourself.

    hiding behind the presence of marginal elements and nationalists in Ukraine

    The trouble is not that they are. There are enough of them in almost any territorial entity. The problem is that this is under state support, and therefore is an expression of the desire of all citizens who both clearly support this and simply take it for granted. We saw those who were against: in the Odessa House of Trade Unions, in the DPR, in the LPR ...
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 15: 25
      -6
      So remove the substitutions. Especially classical and own interpretations. The will of all citizens about the integrity of the subject of Ukraine, according to the laws at that time, could only be decided by an all-Ukrainian referendum, an all-Ukrainian and no more. Everything else is lyrics.
      No, this is an indisputable topic, if you follow the existing generally accepted (including the Russian Federation) international norms, which we signed up to. Crimes in Odessa do not cancel crimes in Kiev. Shelling of civilians of the DPR and LPR shelling of civilians outside their borders. The treaty must either be respected or denounced or war is declared and then the treaties are canceled automatically, everything else is non-fulfillment of the agreement.
  • Model101
    Model101 April 20 2021 15: 01
    +3
    Quote: ironic
    Only fascists live in Ukraine? The integrity of a sovereign country can be violated without a declaration of war, but by signing a guarantee of such? These are no longer the lands of the Russian Federation, but the lands of Ukraine, moreover, under the signature of guarantees of the Russian Federation itself. Are you aware that you are propagandizing revanchism, hiding behind the presence of marginal elements and nationalists in Ukraine?


    And on in ukrroindii they are not? Fascists, Natsiks?
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 15: 26
      -6
      They also exist in Russia.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 April 21 2021 12: 31
        +2
        ironic (Sasha)
        Yesterday, 15: 26

        -5
        They also exist in Russia.
        sho you say? And in Israel, who counted them lately? laughing
        1. ironic
          ironic April 21 2021 17: 52
          -2
          One was accurately counted, a Russian state actor who drew a swastika under the bridge in the city of Holon and ascribed "Hitler vnature rights" in the language of the winner of the Great Patriotic War. wink
          When an anti-Semite begins to writhe with a parochial accent, it is not comical, it is ugly and stupid. negative
  • Maikcg
    Maikcg April 20 2021 17: 08
    +1
    Only fascists live in Ukraine?

    73% Zelensky 24% Poroshenko, with a turnout of 61% * (0,73 +, 024) = 59% of fascists
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 18: 16
      -4
      Who determined it? You? Why else should someone believe this?
  • Svarog
    Svarog April 20 2021 13: 57
    +6
    The Pentagon urged Russia to "clarify" intentions towards Ukraine

    The intentions should be simple ... the fight against fascism. Unfortunately, it is not finished and the United States at one time, albeit at the final stage, but nevertheless joined this struggle .. Today in Ukraine fascism is again raising its head, there is a lot of evidence of this, just look at the torchlight processions and the actions of the Ukrainian army in Donbass ..when peaceful people are being burned .. It is the duty of Russia to destroy the fascist hotbed and the United States must provide assistance .. or recognize itself as the successor of the fascist ideology ..
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 15: 29
      -6
      An intervention under the pretext of fighting fascism is only possible legally with UN sanction. The presence of extreme nationalists and neo-fascists in Ukraine takes place, but the assertion that this characterizes the entire people and the whole country is racism and military hysteria.
      1. vl903
        vl903 April 20 2021 19: 09
        +4
        The UN is controlled by the Americans. Ukraine is also completely under amer. if one criminal kills your relative, and the second convinces you that helping him is not international concepts and everyone should die himself, and in general "he is not your brother" and "you do not need to engage in military hysteria, look calmly as they are burned, shot artelery and drones ".. what will you do?
        1. ironic
          ironic April 20 2021 19: 57
          -5
          When I find out that Jews are being driven or beaten in England or France, I suggest that they all go to Israel, and not land a group of the special forces of the Ministry of Defense and take revenge. You are talking about a sovereign Mr. Critical mistakes were made accordingly in planning the relationship with this Mr. And today nothing is being done to end the war. Once hysteria is whipped up, it means that both sides are interested in the war and that means the Russian Federation and the side of the conflict, as opposed to official statements. It would have been different, there would have been proposals for the delimitation of the parties. And the Russian Federation does not need 80 thousand servicemen to defend its border with Ukraine, if everything else is its internal affair.
          1. vl903
            vl903 April 21 2021 06: 05
            +2
            if Ukraine were not under the rule of the United States, it would sit on the gas pipe of Russia like a gold mine and grow rich. She had an excellent economy. Russia wanted to buy from her and engines and missiles and planes (in Ukraine, probably half of the military and heavy machinery of the USSR) agricultural products ... and transit ... but the United States needs to destroy both Russia and Ukraine so that Russia does not get it. What we see. The economy is destroyed, half of the population fled the rest either to make Bandera or to destroy in the war with Russia. power is completely in the hands of the United States. knowing the USA, the only question remains when will they give the command to face? and if you count the United States and NATO, and with a co-officer for technical superiority ... they will erase 80 thousand to dust in 3 days, and then only because they are not in a hurry and without risking the lives of their infantry.
            1. ironic
              ironic April 21 2021 18: 12
              -2
              So far, this is just your virtual assumptions. Practically nothing of the kind is happening and can not happen either with the number of troops or with the equipment that the Armed Forces have on hand. Therefore, this is another example of military hysteria, which can be whipped up only in order to be a party to the conflict. And in order not to be this party, you first need to legally resolve the issue of de jure about the integrity of the State of Ukraine, even if you don’t like it and at least compensate it for the loss of Crimea, if it’s an irrecoverable loss.
              1. vl903
                vl903 April 21 2021 18: 44
                +2
                eyewitnesses told me about the fact that you kill children in Donbass. Ukraine is a brazenly torn off region of Russia, devastated by a vhlam and a population that has been reduced at times. It is necessary to return it to Russia and compensate for the material and moral losses. Execute the guilty and accomplices.
                1. ironic
                  ironic April 21 2021 19: 11
                  -1
                  Are Israelis killing children in Donbass? Are you out of your mind? fool
                  War crimes must be investigated if they occur.
                  No one has been given the right under modern international agreements, under which the Russian Federation is also signed, to pursue a policy of forcible expropriation of the territories of the subjects of independence. And what you wrote is an immoral and lawless call for revenge and genocide. negative
                  1. vl903
                    vl903 April 21 2021 19: 27
                    +2
                    I heard your position: tearing Russia apart is good, killing Russians is good, Maidan is good, Russians are defending themselves against international law. Provocateurs on the Maidan Berkutovtsy, because it is beneficial to you. Russians are bad, all Russians in Ukraine must urgently identify themselves as Bandera, the rest slowly ...
                    1. ironic
                      ironic April 21 2021 20: 01
                      -2
                      This is not my position, this is your reflection and I don’t need to attribute your own devils if they bite your liver and shout into your inner ear - tell him, don’t be silent! This is not me, it is they and they are all yours and from your head. And to erect your vain on me is not immoral.
                    2. vl903
                      vl903 April 21 2021 20: 11
                      +2
                      Then tell me who benefits from what the neighbors hated the people of Israel? who benefits from the Maidan? Who needs a foothold in the Black Sea, under Russia's nose? Who needs a submissive Europe? Who needs to sell liquefied gas to Europe? who is in charge of the SBU?
                    3. ironic
                      ironic April 25 2021 01: 16
                      -1
                      Oh, a lot of people. Well this is so much dough and no optical responsibility. And on BV there are such and in Europe there are such and in the Russian Federation there are such and even in the USA there are such. Maidan has become beneficial to many. Aggressive part of your military elite, political forces in the USA and Europe, Ukrainian corrupt officials. And only to those who demanded justice on it, it turned out to be not beneficial. The Russian Federation and NATO have been competing with bridgeheads for a long time, the Russian Federation is seeking influence in Mediterranean, NATO wants to nail this influence. Submissive Europe is a political slogan. Everyone who has it wants to sell gas to Europe, but it is profitable today much less than before the crown.
                      And the SBU, as far as I know, reports directly to the President of Ukraine.
      2. vl903
        vl903 April 28 2021 09: 09
        0
        do you want to say the mossad abroad does not work?
  • Rusticolus
    Rusticolus April 20 2021 20: 21
    +2
    The entire people of Ukraine, with the exception of complete homeless people, financially support fascism. Or through war tax or vat.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 20 2021 20: 24
      -5
      Are you crazy with hysteria or obscurantism is your normal state? request
      1. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus April 20 2021 21: 39
        +2
        Typical ragul. When there is nothing to say about the case, he turns to an insult. The drain is protected by a fascist.
        1. ironic
          ironic April 21 2021 18: 56
          -2
          The fascist wrote on the file in the city of Holon in the language of the winner of the Great Patriotic War "Hitler vnature rights" and next to it he slapped a swastika in black and white. Send a photo? He's probably one of those like you. You obscurantists each opponent has the same nickname and do not care who he is by nationality and a citizen of which country. You yourself are racit, a great-power chauvinist and a military-hysterical zombie.
          1. Rusticolus
            Rusticolus April 21 2021 19: 19
            +1
            The hysteric said everything?
            1. ironic
              ironic April 21 2021 20: 16
              -2
              Have you thrown out your reflection? This is your obscurantist hysteria.
  • poquello
    poquello April 20 2021 13: 37
    +1
    Russia has nothing to do with clarifying intentions in relation to Ukraine.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 April 20 2021 13: 37
    +11
    Why should we even clarify our intentions regarding the third country of the United States? They never bother with such conventions, do they? Stupidly bomb when they want and that's it ..
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 20 2021 13: 46
      +8
      "Not connected with Ukraine": the United States transferred several dozen fighters to Poland
      And no one asks questions, it seems like it should be ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 20 2021 14: 21
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        "Not connected with Ukraine": the United States transferred several dozen fighters to Poland
        And no one asks questions, it seems like it should be ...

        So, in addition to Poland, NATO troops came to other countries.
        Strange questions are asked request why near the border? This is how we live on this side of the border! We live.
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell April 20 2021 14: 53
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        "Not connected with Ukraine": the United States transferred several dozen fighters to Poland And no one asks questions, it seems like it should be ...

        Well, they have democratic events and there is no reason to worry, but the Russian Federation gives reason to worry ... The stupid ones don't even listen to Lavrov - we live here, have already pulled up everyone with their values ​​/ "allies" / democracies ...
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 April 20 2021 13: 55
      0
      Why should we even clarify our intentions regarding the third US country?

      The states have not yet explained what they are doing in Syria? bully
  • Aleksandre
    Aleksandre April 20 2021 13: 37
    +4
    "Who suddenly with what for what, he from this and that." So to answer.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 20 2021 13: 46
      +3
      Quote: Aleksandre
      "Who suddenly with what for what, he from this and that." So to answer.

      Well, you are a beast! Translators will go crazy, how can this be translated? Let's "mirror". Clarify your aspirations in relation to .... and list all countries where there are American bases and troops. Clarify your attitude towards the fascists, nationalists and bandits .... so let them answer for each "episode".
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 20 2021 13: 43
    0
    Well, stupid-s-s-s-s-e! What are the intentions? What is Ukraine? What are they talking about? what
  • Klingon
    Klingon April 20 2021 13: 45
    +1
    let them explain the same thing about NATO. for what purpose is the expansion to the east and close to the borders of the Russian Federation, clarification should be required wassat
    but in general it is a military secret. they don't know that they don't explain military secrets like that wassat
  • Andrea
    Andrea April 20 2021 13: 48
    +1
    NATO! Get out of the borders of Russia !!!
    Only after that, perhaps, we will explain ... for the stupid.
  • iouris
    iouris April 20 2021 13: 49
    -1
    Eh, John, if we ourselves knew ... And what are our intentions?
  • Woland
    Woland April 20 2021 13: 52
    0
    All this is the result of the short-sighted policy of Our leaders then, in 2014. If you didn't hold back the offensive impulse of LYH-KYH? now the line of demarcation would be at least on the administrative border between these republics and Ukraine. And the inhabitants of these republics would not have died from the unanswered shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In the event of shelling, the militia could respond in full, without fear of hitting their own. And now, there is only one thing or gradually all the militias (and civilians) to die from shelling. or go to recapture their lands in battle. and not to listen to anyone about the Minsk agreements and other bilibery. There is no third
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis April 20 2021 14: 22
      +1
      Quote: Woland
      All this is the result of the short-sighted policy of Our leaders then, in 2014.

      All this is the result of the policy of the General Secretary of the CPSU Gorbachev, as well as comrade, Mr. President of the Russian Federation Yeltsin ... Everything that happened in the future is a consequence of the policy of these statesmen ..
      1. Maikcg
        Maikcg April 20 2021 17: 15
        -1
        No, no, no, you dig finely, this is the result of the policy of Comrade Stalin (1920 decree of the Council of Ukrtrudarm on the creation of the Donetsk province as part of the Ukrainian SSR), Comrade Khrushchev (1954 decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on the transfer of the Crimean region from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR) and other comrades in 1939-1940. Eastern Galicia, Northern Bukovina, Southern Bessarabia, in 1945 Transcarpathia was annexed to the Ukrainian SSR. And tydy.
  • Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 20 2021 13: 55
    0
    Our goals are simple:
    - ensuring free navigation;
    - control over the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and technologies;
    - serve as a forum for consultation on security issues;
    - fight against racism
    And mind you, we do not say anything about the protection of the rights and freedoms of national minorities (in Transcarpathia there is no one else).
  • zwlad
    zwlad April 20 2021 13: 57
    -1
    Probably, in order to become "obvious", the Russian army should be withdrawn altogether beyond the Urals or to Siberia. And even then in the USA they will find something to cling to.

    There is another option - to Alaska. Maybe this will calm the Pentagon?
  • yfast
    yfast April 20 2021 13: 58
    0
    Quote: ironic
    Only fascists live in Ukraine?
    Maybe not alone, but only they are visible ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 20 2021 14: 00
    +1
    The Pentagon still does not understand Russia's intentions towards Ukraine and calls on it to "clarify" them. This was stated by the spokesman for the US Department of Defense John Kirby.
    ... Just send or will it be florid, with a bend?
    1. cniza
      cniza April 20 2021 14: 19
      +1
      These are their problems, let them come up with them - they were answered by the teachings here ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 20 2021 14: 22
        0
        All clear. The troops can just practice, conduct exercises, or maybe ...
        Everything is normal, ready for anything.
        1. cniza
          cniza April 20 2021 14: 24
          +1
          We do not ask why they sent their airplanes to Poland, explaining to us that these are exercises ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 20 2021 14: 35
            0
            Quote: cniza
            We don't ask

            So trembling in our knees does not happen! Why panic in vain.
            1. cniza
              cniza April 20 2021 14: 38
              +4
              Well, yes, even looking at this map we do not shake:

              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 20 2021 14: 44
                +1
                In, in, it is the very thing ...
                Russia has crushed so many enemies, strong ones, who were all in a crowd here ... not the first time, we will crush these too!
                1. cniza
                  cniza April 20 2021 14: 48
                  +1
                  Looking at these signs, I could not understand for a long time what they remind me - yes CROSSES, only of a different shape.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 20 2021 14: 57
                    0
                    Cross ... on the tactical map of our VKS. Everything is simple and clear
                    1. cniza
                      cniza April 20 2021 15: 03
                      +2
                      Yes, we do not care how to mark targets, but with a cross, we usually mark the elimination ... lol
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 20 2021 15: 17
                        0
                        A subtle hint of fat circumstances ... that's right.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza April 20 2021 15: 21
                        +1
                        No, no, this is not us, it is they themselves who have outlined it ... lol
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 20 2021 15: 27
                        0
                        By the way, that's the way it is! Here are the fools fool
            2. ironic
              ironic April 25 2021 20: 28
              -1
              Which ones? Nobody is going to take Russia into NATO territorially, it is unproductive. It was found out long ago. So who will you crush?
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid April 20 2021 14: 24
    0
    Does the Pentagon not understand? Oh! Oh! laughing So these are their problems, and our representatives should not educate the dull ones
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 20 2021 14: 36
      0
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Doesn't understand the Pentagon

      In the Pentagon, just, they understand everything perfectly ... but in the house on the hill, especially "gifted" gathered!
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 20 2021 15: 13
        0
        Yes, it is understandable that they are mowing under the stupid, and they ask for explanations, hoping that ours will somehow get lost, 10 times explaining the same thing, that they will say too much, and they will continue to find fault.
        Quote: rocket757
        .....
        In the Pentagon, just, they understand everything perfectly ... but in the house on the hill, especially "gifted" gathered!
        but in this "conversation" ----- send, because in our house we do what we want.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 20 2021 15: 18
          +2
          We do what it SHOULD do! And it will be what we need.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid April 20 2021 15: 57
            +1
            Quote: rocket757
            We do what it SHOULD do! And it will be what we need.

            goodexactly.
          2. ironic
            ironic April 25 2021 20: 31
            -1
            What do you need? This, in fact, was asked to clarify. Not?
      2. ironic
        ironic April 25 2021 20: 30
        -1
        The Pentagon's business is to implement the government's military policy. And to understand appropriately for the intended deeds.
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 20 2021 14: 02
    0
    Two words - "Rip out-grab" .. that's all the explanations ..
  • vl903
    vl903 April 20 2021 14: 06
    +1
    what do they care about the primordially Russian lands? until we free Texas from US oppression let them sleep peacefully.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 25 2021 20: 32
      -1
      But is it territorially the lands of Ukraine originally Russian? Why then did the Russian Federation put a signature on the document guaranteeing that they were Ukrainian?
      1. vl903
        vl903 April 25 2021 21: 53
        +1
        lands are inseparable since russia was born in kiev. it's like father and son and American scammers. not labeled signature or Yeltsin put? can it erase 1000 years of history? Do you know the attitude of Russians towards both of these personalities and their signatures?
        1. ironic
          ironic April 26 2021 18: 48
          +1
          It's all lyrics. There is an official signature of the Russian Federation under an international guarantee agreement on the territorial integrity of the existing subject of independence - Ukraine, along with a whole list of guarantor countries. Denunciation of this treaty by the Russian Federation has never been announced. This is an international obligation to be fulfilled.
          1. vl903
            vl903 April 27 2021 08: 25
            0
            the traitor who put it, let him do it. and the money that the United States spent on what would bring him to power, let them write off. Why do you have such an interest in the affairs of the United States? What is your benefit?
            1. ironic
              ironic April 27 2021 15: 38
              0
              But this is an illegal performance. Then there is no need to accuse anyone of putschism, you yourself consider the putsch against the legislatively adopted acts as a legitimate action. If you have already started for profit, then profit is made best where there is no shooting. And also my benefit is that people do not take the law into their own hands at their own discretion, because this is not a court, but a trial and punishment.
              1. vl903
                vl903 April 27 2021 21: 03
                0
                if children of Donbass are killed and you justify it, you are the same Bandera as they are. and for people your attempts to whitewash Bandera do not matter
                1. ironic
                  ironic April 27 2021 22: 56
                  -1
                  Yes, I know, all those who disagree and do not suffer from ukrobathert are Bandera and kill the children of Donbass. For a long time already, VO users explained this to me. My wife does not yet know that I kill children, but I will definitely tell her.
                  1. vl903
                    vl903 April 27 2021 23: 07
                    0
                    weird, I thought you'd say it's legal.
                    1. ironic
                      ironic April 27 2021 23: 39
                      0
                      It is illegal to nightmare a peace man, but not only in Donbass, shelling passenger trains passing near Ilovaisk is also illegal. This is just what I know personally. A classmate works as a senior machinist.
                      1. vl903
                        vl903 April 28 2021 09: 00
                        0
                        Well, that is, do you agree that it is necessary to smoke amers who are everywhere where they come to create instability?
                      2. ironic
                        ironic April 28 2021 18: 56
                        0
                        And what to do with your stripes?
                      3. vl903
                        vl903 April 28 2021 21: 02
                        0
                        ours are all at home (Ukraine is also our home). and you can deploy who are the strippers, these are the Cossacks?
                      4. ironic
                        ironic April 28 2021 21: 56
                        +1
                        Such, with red stripes on the pants. The Cossacks are a separate story.
                        What other houses are yours? Do these houses want to be yours? Or will they be forced to do this?
                      5. vl903
                        vl903 April 29 2021 00: 00
                        0
                        you come home from the war and in bed a felon (what the US international felon needs to tell you) with your wife (his wife is bruised and dancing) and asks you if she really wants to live with you? what should be done? Well, probably first deal with the criminal. then, within the family, decide how to live on. and after the war, almost all of these families lived together in the same ukraine. by the way, like in kiev, your friends celebrate the day of the SS division galitschina? you do not look like a Jew. a Jew cannot drown for such "friends"
                      6. vl903
                        vl903 April 29 2021 00: 10
                        0
                        about stripes, make an amendment to the fact that you and I live in a different information propaganda field. I suppose that under the stripes you mean the "war party"?
                      7. ironic
                        ironic April 29 2021 17: 06
                        0
                        This is the outer side, and the inner side is certain carriers of red stripes, which accompanies big stars on epaulettes with a tie for the military-industrial complex with big money and gives power.
                      8. vl903
                        vl903 April 29 2021 20: 37
                        0
                        real and big money from commodity exporters. money more or less went to the military-industrial complex recently. respectively, both power and influence are small so far
                      9. vl903
                        vl903 April 29 2021 20: 41
                        0
                        because of the raw material oligarchs, even in 2008 Saakshvili was not imprisoned and received a Maidan, and in 2014 they did not take Ukraine and there already under 14 thousand peaceful people died. so what's the trouble of Russia because of the traders.
                      10. ironic
                        ironic April 30 2021 14: 38
                        -1
                        And who else should be taken and planted, and where? All the way to the Atlantic?
                      11. vl903
                        vl903 April 30 2021 23: 41
                        +1
                        not. only amerskih stavlenikov in the territories of rossii. let the Americans get out of their homes in britaniyu.khotya of course Britain is also sorry, the locals, then only the Irish and the Scots remained there. brits, then there are already these friends of yours cleaned out, if you are in the know. too, and we are destined if we bend
                      12. ironic
                        ironic 2 May 2021 13: 54
                        0
                        Who are our friends? And who will decide who these proteges will again be the most honest Soviet court?
                      13. vl903
                        vl903 2 May 2021 18: 28
                        +1
                        to decide yes by the Russian court, it is better for us and our lands than the Anglo-Saxon
                      14. vl903
                        vl903 2 May 2021 19: 57
                        +1
                        your friends are not necessarily your friends, this is a collective image of NON-friends of Russia, even more precisely the main strategic enemies, now they are the Anglo-Saxon elites, and not the people of the USA, England and Canada, but the elites who now rule there
                      15. ironic
                        ironic 3 May 2021 00: 22
                        -1
                        You, too, are ruled by the elites, and lately more and more stripes stand in the form of their shields, and sometimes the elite themselves. There is no equality and there never will be, nowhere, but there is no equal sign between inequality and injustice. Just live it and let others live.
                      16. vl903
                        vl903 3 May 2021 07: 31
                        +1
                        live and let live
                        - so what am I talking about!
                      17. ironic
                        ironic 3 May 2021 15: 15
                        -1
                        You talk about it and they talk about it, but neither the one nor the other side means what they say.
                      18. vl903
                        vl903 3 May 2021 19: 00
                        +1
                        why? everything is transparent, you live in America, you have genocidal our relatives of the ideologists (relatives of our Chukchi and Eskimos and Ainu). live until we come to settle the score. and if you become insolent and come to our bedroom, then either you or we will pick up some strength.
                      19. ironic
                        ironic 4 May 2021 13: 19
                        -1
                        So how does this differ from - you live in the Russian Empire, enslaved numerous peoples of the north, seriously reducing their numbers and limiting culturally (relatives of their Indians and the same peoples of the north), then continued with a coup in the Soviet way, conflicted, were going to climb into the bedrooms to the Atlantic, stood with its bedrooms behind Korea and Vietnam, the Middle East wars, African wars, lost the Cold War and fell apart, the successor of the Russian Federation returned to the cold confrontation, annexed Crimea, stands behind the war in Donbass, aggressively introduces this very bedroom into the Mediterranean space through Syria, why would they be surprised if a hint of settling accounts is answered - and here is your account? Those. what I said in the previous posting.
                      20. vl903
                        vl903 4 May 2021 15: 51
                        +1
                        is radically different. the northern peoples lived on equal terms in the Russian empire. revolution is the development of society from the wild to the most civilized with a striving for the ideal, in the interior of our country, we did not climb to anyone. but this immediately to the Anglo-Saxons like a sickle in the balls. Well this abolished the slavery of countries. immediately the intervention, they gave it in the teeth. they didn’t calm down, they raised Hitler on purpose by beating the Germans. after the war, the peoples of Vietnam and Korea and China wanted to repeat, this drove the Saxons to hysteria. what would not get carried away by Stalin did Israel. USA decides to act through the introduction of traitors to the leadership. Razval the USSR. Syria is the last friend of Russia. if we betray it will be bestiality. and we do not climb into either the United States or England but in vain.
                      21. ironic
                        ironic 4 May 2021 16: 11
                        0
                        Yeah, on an equal footing in bravura patriotic reports. Yes, they did not climb, right up to a caricature of Brezhnev climbing naked on the globe and signing - who else to help? Yes, such a good Stalin is straightforward, only his Purim end prevented the widespread cases of doctors and the expulsion of all Jews from the European part of the Arctic Circle. Yes, and after the USSR, I did not climb into Israel very much, it went into my teeth. And the red rogues of Vietnam and Korea, who wanted to take away and divide everything on a ball, still could not do it in full and today Vietnam looks at things in a completely different way, and Korea, fortunately, is not a match for North and South. I understand that you like your alternate universe more, but this is only true in your alternate universe.
                      22. vl903
                        vl903 4 May 2021 17: 24
                        +1
                        it is in your pink alternative world the French slave-owner is kind, and the local Vietnamese, the Korean is bad only because the slave-owners want to eat fatly. The French would have left, the Vietnamese would have to figure out what they needed, and the North Korea was simply driven into a corner by a pack of dogs. Thailand was just lucky because the king saved from the good civilized pirates. and if Stalin had not sent the Jewish front-line soldiers to Israel, hell would Israel stand against the British army in the real, and not in your rosy world of Anglo-Saxon propaganda. and the Vietnamese and Koreans would not have sacrificed millions of their lives if you (because you are drowning not for Israel but for the United States) did not get them. Late Brezhnev was not independent and could not smoke the CIA from Afghanistan, but the message was correct, they left Afghanistan and received drugs at their border.
                      23. ironic
                        ironic 4 May 2021 18: 07
                        0
                        This is in the world of the Red Communist Party. A Frenchman is a slave owner. This is a rogue formulation of the question of counting who eats fatter, and not what I myself eat and why. Stalin did not send any Jews to the frontline at all. The red-minded worldview called the rogues of the whole world to the barricades, but nothing but wars, hunger and repression brought nothing, and the only dictatorial government that crawled out of this into "people" did it thanks to capitalism and the emerging fat, and not thanks to the works of Mao. Vietnam has gotten to its feet on the sly, too, with a departure from the red back. They left Afgan because they could not do anything else, and the victims were awesome.
                      24. vl903
                        vl903 4 May 2021 19: 03
                        +1
                        you speak in American Bandera clichés. Romans also considered Jews to be rogue, but this is not a reason to destroy them? and who makes people rogue? stray pirates who were explained in their homeland by gulyatina during the French Revolution and in the Vietnamese were kicked out. according to your comments, you do not look like a Jew, but more like a Ukrainian victim of American propaganda over the past 30 years.
                      25. vl903
                        vl903 4 May 2021 19: 21
                        +1
                        and by the way, Stalin sent front-line soldiers with their families and even gave them money. Israel would not have survived without them. desert Jews and emigrants from Europe would have floundered against the Angles as French resistance against the Fritzes for another three hundred years
                      26. ironic
                        ironic 6 May 2021 01: 53
                        -1
                        Game is rare. I have never read such crazy and stupid propaganda. We must copy. And then I’ll forget what topic.
                      27. vl903
                        vl903 6 May 2021 08: 22
                        +1
                        what is the game? do you voluntarily become slaves and were happy with it? Or is everyone happy that he is not a millionaire?
                      28. ironic
                        ironic 10 May 2021 12: 21
                        -1
                        Who are the slaves? Where? I am not a millionaire and I am quite at peace with my position. And I am in favor of millionaires.
                      29. vl903
                        vl903 10 May 2021 12: 33
                        +1
                        the same Romans and Egyptians tried to keep your ancestors for slaves, but for some reason your ancestors did not like it. and you are now satisfied with your position only because the millionaires are stopping to rob you to the skin of resistance and your ancestors, and the English, French and other revolutions and millionaires have to balance. and whether you like millionaires or not, millionaires do not care, because human greed and unprincipledness are ineradicable in the foreseeable future. one can only try to use human vices and dignity for the benefit of society or societies with varying degrees of success. those societies that do not hesitate to do so disappear.
              2. ironic
                ironic 6 May 2021 01: 50
                -1
                And you speak in red clichés, but it doesn't bother you. And I offered to destroy the rogue? You know, there is a commandment not to pity the persecutor. Do not pursue and you will not be "unhappy". Laziness, lack of will and zombie make people rogue. So komunyakam too many where they gave a kick, I will not even list, unlike you, but people around have suffered. They and in Israel, glory to Gd, were given a kick, but not to the end, state employees are still socialist leftists, they have been drinking my taxes for 30 years in a row. This is the only thing you are right about. Yes, I know that ukrabathurt on VO is a common case. Don't try to surprise me with this. You don't seem to have other reflections. Probably if I had shot the President of the United States, you would have said that I did it as the last Ukrainian, although this is good news.
              3. vl903
                vl903 6 May 2021 08: 32
                +1
                about the laziness of rogues, people are born with different physical mental abilities and greed. the most cunning bastard greedy and unprincipled becomes rich. middle class can become smart and healthy but no more. communism is bad as an ideal? everybody is given according to their wishes, and everybody is happy? I don’t know what a ukrobakhter is (we don’t say that) why you don’t like the president of the united states, nothing depends on one thing, it’s in the system
              4. ironic
                ironic 10 May 2021 12: 40
                -1
                This is the most cunning, scummy and greedy, envious and unprincipled definition of wealth (including an oguile one) that I have just read. Sharikov is resting. I personally know smart and healthy people who have reached the millionth state in one generation. Personally, over the next five years, I will become the sovereign owner of real estate with a market value of> 1 million. euro in the absence of debts to the bank and this will be done in ~ 25 years. My friend was able to develop the business of postal transportation to the countries of the former CIS to multi-million dollar turnovers in 25 years by starting as a simple parcel delivery man in someone else's business. Communism is bad because it is not an ideal, but an idol, utopian is impractical, and practical is far from even elementary justice, not to mention some kind of pink elephants. They should not give anything to anyone according to their wishes. A highly developed city government builds social assistance so that it can help a person survive the crisis and get on his feet, and not fulfill his desires, and should be nothing more than help, not dependency, on which it should not be profitable as a whole. That should stimulate the desire to get off this help.
                This is how English is distorted in your country. This is a Russian transcription expression - bat-heck, ass pain, and're coming out to prefix to that from what. You don't even know how you express yourself, I don't even stutter about knowledge of languages.
                I do not like the US president because he is a socialist, an extreme left liberal and an Obamot. The system consists, even the best and most thought-out system can only limit the extreme manifestations of human activity, but not prevent. In the end, the system can be destroyed. USSR as an example.
              5. vl903
                vl903 10 May 2021 12: 53
                +1
                you contradict yourself. social sphere you have something evil then good. if individual people can become wealthy due to their unique data, it is not thanks to the kindness of the masters of the world, but to those who sacrificed their lives (not only communists) to establish fair rules in society. and now the owners are afraid and give slack. If, however, how you want to remove the social network, to make a person a person - a businessman, then sooner or later it is easier to kill and rob you rich than to work for you. therefore, as long as there is a balance in society, society lives on. The USSR, on the other hand, died because of the failure to build a self-defense and renewal mechanism. The United States played on this and carried out a sabotage. either a blind person or a salary cannot see it.
              6. ironic
                ironic 10 May 2021 13: 11
                -1
                I do not contradict. It is not evil and not good, it is a necessity, but it can be turned into evil, as the Americans did, by the way, having raised whole generations who have spent their entire lives on social programs. No unique opportunities are required to achieve the quality of life in a developed country. You need to work and learn. Not a single fair rule has yet been established not according to the rule of economic benefit. And the struggle for wage labor rights established the economic benefits of having a social damper and health and pension insurance, not red coups. The owners of the market economy are not afraid of anything; they buy what is profitable. It is profitable today to buy a qualified employee with a social package and insurance. Removing social media is another extreme and therefore financially unprofitable. It's easier to kill and rob, this is just for someone and for this McCarthy did give the distribution in full and correctly. The USSR died due to the instability of the entire system, which was shattered in several directions at once. The fact that the West took advantage of known weaknesses is natural. There was a cold war.

                PS It's time for you to get rid of phantom pains.
              7. vl903
                vl903 10 May 2021 14: 52
                +1
                you have a rosy-childish perception of the world. Macartney harmed the USSR because it was economically beneficial for the masters of the world. The United States provides social services not because it is profitable, but in order for the owners to have a calm rear, in conditions when expensive jobs are given to China, the local population could starve and take offense and kill the owners and their families. come to give handouts and reduce the population. if the elite move to another country, you can cut the social network. Should the elite be afraid of anything? - they are afraid of impoverishment and being left without a head, they respect history and do everything not to repeat mistakes. Cold War Pattern? in what? only in greed. earlier this was not explained by the love of communism. now again some good reason. the only thing is that the wolves want to eat)))
              8. ironic
                ironic 10 May 2021 17: 14
                0
                In general, the USSR also harmed the United States because it was beneficial to the top of the Communist Party. You just have a red perception of the world. Every post you have is direct quotes from Sharikov's speeches. Don't you find this strange yourself? For some reason, the USA has a natural population growth, which even the USSR could not boast in its best times. Their elites already reside where they please, and the largest corporations are transnational. Well, not without greed, including your wolves. Read about the rate of growth of Russians among elite fortunes. Formal communism is proclaimed in China too, but this is only a convenient form of totalitarianism for today. Your modern military-industrial elite does not consider it simply necessary to hide behind a red rag. There are other methods as well.
              9. vl903
                vl903 10 May 2021 18: 41
                +1
                in your tone you do not look like a Jew, more like a fresh Ukrainian-American overgrowth about the United States you are lying. before the war, the USSR was very good at buying technology from the United States and the USSR wanted to be friends with the United States. but Churchill and then Truman hated the USSR and began to fight it already in 1944. After that, the USSR could not afford to love the USA. the increase now of the white population, not immigrants, in the United States now, in white and Indian families with 10 children? surely you're not lying again? totalitarianism does not need communism. tell in the states and in Europe about something blue or blacks or in Ukraine about May 9 and tell after that about totalitarianism. the usual school-Ukrainian lies from you
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  • vl903
    vl903 3 May 2021 07: 25
    +1
    there are no international norms for a long time. compare the behavior at sea of ​​the Anglo-Saxons and the Germans. They could not even hang Doenitz when the facts surfaced that the Angles and the Americans, and not the Germans, had shot people in the water. and the Soviet court, if we discard the propaganda and excesses of the hunt for spies (as we now see, Stalin was not in vain afraid, after him the Angles managed to destroy the USSR) one of the fairest to the bastards (the same Americans did not punish the Japanese fanatics, the French used SS in full foreign legion in vietnam
  • ironic
    ironic 3 May 2021 15: 17
    -1
    Well, you have pink illusions. And we have already seen the fairness of the court, when a person is given 7.5 years for a few grams of grass and released a year later through political channels.
  • vl903
    vl903 3 May 2021 18: 46
    0
    is it about a Jewish girl? if so, then I am also outraged that they were released. this shows how "Russian" our elites are and how influenced they are. this was evident in Putin's behavior at the rabbis' congress. just didn’t jump on my paws. and why illusions? Whom and how the Japanese were punished? Rather, you have illusions about international norms and law. although of course it would be good that they were and they were all respected. but this is the same ideal as communism.
  • ironic
    ironic 3 May 2021 18: 57
    0
    And I was outraged that she was taken as a hostage and imprisoned as an inveterate recidivist, which testifies to the fact that a custom-made court is reality. The fact that she was released was dictated by political interest, not justice.
  • vl903
    vl903 4 May 2021 19: 08
    0
    in some countries she would be immediately soldered to the death penalty, and our girl would go to hell. and then Putin caved in, if he hasn’t squeezed anything from the Mossad, then he’s a double shame.
  • ironic
    ironic 6 May 2021 01: 37
    0
    Well, so to the justice of these countries and the attitude is appropriate. They gave him a tribune, forgot? And many considered it a minus to Israel. So there was a price for everything.
  • vl903
    vl903 6 May 2021 08: 19
    0
    I remember the case with the woman, I was not interested in details, so about the podium and the minus was not in the subject of what was there. and where for drugs they shoot her there and do not take her
  • ironic
    ironic 10 May 2021 12: 42
    0
    They carry them. And the number of executions does not decrease, which means the number of imports.
  • ironic
    ironic April 30 2021 14: 37
    -1
    What about the mating between this and that? She has always been.
  • vl903
    vl903 April 30 2021 23: 44
    +1
    if about the link between the resource magnates and our military-industrial complex, then our military-industrial complex is still like a child. you are confusing with the situation in America. it will be like this in our country in 50 years, although it may be faster, after all capitalism is not going anywhere
  • ironic
    ironic 2 May 2021 13: 52
    0
    You can't see the forest behind the patriotic tree. In the United States, they made a wise decision to legalize the rollback to private traders and take an official tax from it. This immediately swept aside a whole range of problems associated with shadow interference in government policy. Everything immediately becomes apparent from the cash flows, which even a child can now see by turning on the computer. Those. at least it is impossible to hide the faces of the lobbyists.
  • vl903
    vl903 2 May 2021 16: 40
    +1
    we must take all the best from the United States, China, the USSR, Sweden, Norway, the same Israel. in theory ... but in life everything works out as always
  • ironic
    ironic 2 May 2021 18: 24
    -1
    Well this ... each place has its own specific drawbacks. Imperfect anywhere, but that's not what we are talking about.
  • vl903
    vl903 2 May 2021 18: 30
    +1
    and my patriotic forest is closer to me. Why am I obliged, in your opinion, to lick the shoes of the Anglo-Saxons or anyone else?
  • ironic
    ironic 3 May 2021 00: 18
    -1
    And why is this only automatically reflected in you? The complex of getting up from your knees after the collapse of the USSR? So it seems that it has been passed a long time ago. And until the 14th year.
  • vl903
    vl903 3 May 2021 07: 37
    -1
    because they kill Russians (citizens of the former USSR) in Ukraine, Tajikistan, Moldova, the Baltic states. and 2014 - a year of shame, instead of returning Ukraine from under the amers, they were afraid to lose the money in London and Miami and gave it to the donbass for the slow destruction
  • ironic
    ironic 3 May 2021 15: 13
    -1
    Do you think that military intervention is a relevant method today? How long will Syria's economy withstand? And if any other Syria turns into Afghan? What to do then? Is the whole world in dust?
  • vl903
    vl903 3 May 2021 17: 32
    0
    today is no different from yesterday and tomorrow. Afghan was no different from the Turkish Crimea, Tajikistan, etc. put other people in place of Andropov and Brezhnev, Afghan would be the 16th republic of the USSR. surrendered Afghan surrendered to the USSR
  • ironic
    ironic 3 May 2021 17: 54
    0
    Well, yes, everything that was, will be, and now there is nothing new under the sun - an old saying. But nothing is repeated exactly as it was, and nothing can be repeated as if it were yesterday.
  • vl903
    vl903 2 May 2021 18: 34
    0
    And in the USA the trick was not in this, but in the fact that everyone is equal before the tax. but that was until about 1990. then there, too, became equal and those who are more equal. such is the human nature unfortunately
  • ironic
    ironic 3 May 2021 17: 56
    0
    Those who are smoother have become smoother even under the red banners, and there has never been equality, and it will never be, because there is none and this is right. There is nothing to regret.
  • vl903
    vl903 3 May 2021 18: 51
    0
    you are not right. if there is no ideal and nothing to strive for, then we will roll. the ideal should be. be it communism, socialism, an ideal monarchy, or democracy (though it needed slaves in Greece, although there were no slaves in Novgorod)
  • ironic
    ironic 3 May 2021 18: 54
    0
    You know, there are some that need to be believed, but I prefer to know.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 20 2021 14: 09
    -1
    Indeed, three areas on the Black Sea are closed until October 31, 2021, it turns out that the exercises will periodically continue until that date. But why did the Cabinet of Ministers think about banning the supply of oil products for export? Temporarily! Troops consume a lot of fuels and lubricants!
    1. Sarboz
      Sarboz April 26 2021 00: 47
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      But why did the Cabinet of Ministers think about banning the supply of oil products for export?

      The oil workers are swollen again. Since the beginning of the year, gasoline prices have grown more than in the entire last year. Therefore, they were again decided with a whip for non-fulfillment of agreements.
      1. ironic
        ironic April 30 2021 14: 40
        -1
        Does the government not subsidize the domestic market? Oh no no no. Greed, then what. But the surplus ...
  • Charik
    Charik April 20 2021 14: 16
    -1
    200 years ago, Russia took the Crimea into the state, and the fact that it was part of one of the republics of the USSR-so the USSR ended-Russia the legal successor-played and will-everything will go home, and I must say to the pentathlon-if the troops of the Armed Forces twitch to Donbass -will beat them, perhaps even with their feet.
  • cniza
    cniza April 20 2021 14: 18
    +1
    Kirby said that while Moscow attributes this to the teachings, it is "not obvious" to Washington.


    So these are your problems, we will not repeat, you seem to be not deaf ...
  • Tektor
    Tektor April 20 2021 14: 22
    0
    How can you explain to an idiot that he is a stupid person? And it makes no sense to explain. Smile and wave.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 April 20 2021 15: 43
      -2
      Unfortunately, he is an admiral, it's just that they have only such a record so far. We do not pay attention. The congressmen began to run into Muhamoor, for his position on Russia, as it is predictable!
  • Blond84
    Blond84 April 20 2021 14: 35
    0
    Even so, these are our geopolitical interests.
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 20 2021 14: 41
    0
    [/ quote] The Pentagon called on Russia to "clarify" its intentions towards Ukraine [quote]

    You will get by. "Can I also give you the keys to the apartment where the money is?" O. Bender
  • vl903
    vl903 April 20 2021 14: 42
    +1
    Why is the SBU better than the Gestapo?
    1. ironic
      ironic April 25 2021 20: 46
      -1
      And how does the National Guard differ from the SBU? The fact that she is not in Ukraine?
      1. vl903
        vl903 April 25 2021 22: 02
        +1
        The National Guard is dancing to the Russian tune, and for the sake of the interests of the Russian people, not forgetting the elite. SBU under the American. often even against the Ukrainian elite just to lick the owners. and voabsche how many kilometers from the usa to ukraine? how do they climb to us? We are not going to Florida for them yet. and they chopped off our ancestral home and still the greyhound will urge us on - lie still. impudent people are not bearable!
        1. Sarboz
          Sarboz April 26 2021 01: 02
          0
          Quote: vl903
          The National Guard is dancing to the Russian tune, and for the sake of the interests of the Russian people, not forgetting the elite. SBU under the American.

          I am surprised by the question:
          Quote: ironic
          And how does the National Guard differ from the SBU? The fact that she is not in Ukraine?

          What is common? It seems that Utyuzhok does not understand at all what the counterintelligence agencies are doing, and what the National Guard troops are doing. Compares sweet to hot. It seems like a person with higher education, and knowledge is not systematized, like the current generation of bloggers. They are all accustomed to googling and believe that this replaces their classical academic education.
          1. ironic
            ironic April 26 2021 18: 43
            0
            Learn not to be rude at first, then I will explain to you with your classic discouragement the difference between the sign of a beauty salon and the composition of a brothel.
        2. ironic
          ironic April 26 2021 15: 44
          -1
          SBU expresses the forces of Ukrainian political and military corrupt officials. Rossgvardia - Russian. What's the difference? In which country? And the extreme nationalists in Ukraine will write the same post about the Rossguard, exactly the opposite? And what does this mean? That extreme Russian nationalists write about the SBU posts? When did any part of the subject of independence of Ukraine become a state of America? But on the contrary, Russia is still yes.
          1. vl903
            vl903 April 26 2021 23: 13
            +1
            the Russian Guard protects the interests of the Russian elite, and these are not always corrupt officials and the people of Russia. in particular when he catches armed criminals or chases them bulk. SBU works only and clearly for the interests of the United States in the rejection of the Ukrainian part of Russia. and de facto there are already masters of the United States. and no need to splurge. Hitlerites, too, were not engaged in gag exterminating Jews. they carried out orders that were legal at that time on their submission. but what difference does that make? nothing! and vshi attempts to justify the United States, Bandera, does not change the essence of the matter.
            1. ironic
              ironic April 27 2021 15: 52
              -1
              Here Ukrainian patriots say the same about the SBU, only the interests of the Rossguard are called the interests of the Kremlin stripes, and how does this essentially differ from your description, except for the side of the barricades? And nothing. What I wrote above. The Nazis were engaged in gagging. The progenitor and theorist of fascism, Mussolini, thought quite differently. Understand the essence, and not with the slogans, then things may change.
      2. Sarboz
        Sarboz April 26 2021 01: 26
        0
        Quote: ironic
        And how does the National Guard differ from the SBU? The fact that she is not in Ukraine?

        The same thing that, for example, Berkut differed from the SBU.
        1. ironic
          ironic April 26 2021 15: 58
          -1
          When was it even the Rossguard or the SBU in disguise, without the legal sanction of the government or the court, beating students to death with non-combatant, pasted over with iron truncheons, not to disperse a demonstration, but to beat them to death?
          1. Sarboz
            Sarboz April 26 2021 19: 18
            0
            Quote: ironic
            When was it even the Rossguard or the SBU in disguise, without the legal sanction of the government or the court, beating students to death with non-combatant, pasted over with iron truncheons, not to disperse a demonstration, but to beat them to death?

            You are a liar. Provide evidence of your stories about the disguised Berkutovites. Video, the names of the dead Maidan students. The court's decision. At least an unauthorized post-Maidan court.
            1. ironic
              ironic April 26 2021 21: 13
              0
              You are twice a liar, a liar about me and a liar that I am lying, but this does not bother you. Drive to Kiev and meet in person with the participants in the first day of student protests. Go to the websites of the Ukrainian court and read the accusations of witnesses against the accused Berkut members. At least I did the first one myself, and you haven't done that, so you are not just a multiple liar, but also a malicious libelist with immoral intentions, in fact, an antihuman villain under the guise of political convictions.

              / / / /
              ... The brutal beating of dozens of protesters, including many young people and students, came as a shock to many Ukrainians ...
              / / / /

              BBC News article. Russian service. November 30, 2017.


              / / / /
              ... in general, more than ten criminal cases have been initiated for crimes against Euromaidan. These are, in particular, the cases of the night dispersal of students on the Independence Square on November 30, 2013
              / / / /

              BBC News article. Russian service. 17 november 2015
              1. Sarboz
                Sarboz April 26 2021 22: 10
                0
                Quote: ironic
                Drive to Kiev and meet in person with the participants of the first day of student protests. Go to the websites of the Ukrainian court and read the accusations of witnesses against the accused Berkut members.

                Well, we have to admit that you did not have any evidence and do not. That is, dozens of angry posts here against the Golden Eagle are just your fantasies. There is no video, no list of innocently murdered students, no verdicts, even by the current Bandera courts. What do you cite in support of your lies? General words without any facts against Berkut employees from BBC News Russian Service.
                Oh, and your troll bread is heavy. Googled in five seconds of some kind of indistinct porridge, like a saber slashed. Hero of the Maidan.
                1. ironic
                  ironic April 27 2021 16: 02
                  -1
                  You do not know what it is to state, you do not have such functionality as a structural element, and you only know how to write libelous, you yourself have not interrogated anyone and have never been at the scene of the event even after the lapse. Therefore, the word fantasy in your speeches has no more meaning than submarines in the steppes of Ukraine or divers in the mountains of the Caucasus. The network is full of photos and videos and the names of the victims, you need to be blind of your own free will, so as not to see all this, or just to be the most upright beast, so as not to feel any human feelings towards these people. And I brought you excerpts from news feeds to remind you how it was, and not to prove to the rearing humanoid beast-lizard that someone unarmed was hurt and it hurts someone to lose their student son, not in the war, but in the square in the center of a multi-million dollar city and his life is always ruined. Yes, light is your meager bread of a gray zombie from the crowd of evil, usually rogue, with rare exceptions. I am not a hero of the Maidan, this is not my country. In mine, I will do my best so that people like you cannot raise their toothy, predatory head.
                  1. Sarboz
                    Sarboz April 28 2021 20: 54
                    0
                    Quote: ironic
                    The network is full of photos and videos and the names of victims, you need to be blind of your own free will, so as not to see all this, or just be the most upright beast, so as not to feel any human feelings towards these people.

                    Lots of lyrics. The fact of the matter is that all the deaths on the Maidan have long been dismantled to the bone. And you troll the local users who do not own the topic, versions of events invented by the Ukrainian Nazis. Therefore, you cannot cite a single case of death that confirms your lie. Thus, you are betraying the memory of millions of Jews killed by the Nazis and their Ukrainian henchmen during the war. It is vile and disgusting. You have to live with it.
                    1. ironic
                      ironic April 28 2021 22: 07
                      0
                      Wow, the haunted heads of unarmed people, this turns out to be lyrics. You would not consider yours as such. You do not consider the Odessa crime as such. Disassembled by whom? Anti-Ukrainian imperial racists? Don't you troll? Poke your nose into your personal trolling? Therefore, you cannot refute, neither the published cases of deaths or injuries, except as a double lie, a lie that this was not and a lie that those who disagree with you are lying. Moreover, you still do not find anything better than, in your own justification, to produce a new bloody anti-Semitic slander about the betrayal of the memory of tortured Jews, just exactly the opposite, lest another cemetery of such size of people of other nationalities emerge, with the obvious help of those who hide behind with this newfound blood libel. Dancing on the bones of the tortured This is both immoral and vile and disgusting, but I'm not sure that you are life in the full sense of the word, so you may not live with this, if you are already undead.
                      1. Sarboz
                        Sarboz April 28 2021 23: 18
                        0
                        Quote: ironic
                        Therefore, you cannot refute, neither the published cases of deaths or injuries, except as a double lie, a lie that this was not and a lie that those who disagree with you are lying.

                        In short, Sklikhosofsky! Enough to replicate unsubstantiated lies about the atrocities of disguised Berkuts. Lots of text, little meaning.
                      2. ironic
                        ironic April 29 2021 17: 21
                        -1
                        Here Sharikov and good to replicate his unsubstantiated lie twice that there were no atrocities of the Berkutovites and the lie that I am lying. In your case, these are not words at all, but the barking of misanthropic propaganda. With one meaning and one gyrus and very shortly - I want blood. So do not hide behind your slogans of pogrom hysteria, go kill, go kill all of them, indiscriminately. Genocide as genocide.
                      3. Sarboz
                        Sarboz April 29 2021 23: 24
                        0
                        How I like it when trolls like you lose their temper. Fingers shook and stopped hitting the letters. Is the iron overheated, the thermostat burned out of the Israeli production? In response to the joke, he began to be rude. He began to poke an unfamiliar elder:
                        Quote: ironic
                        You do not have these words at all, but the barking of misanthropic propaganda.

                        We, "young man," with you did not drive rams through the Afghan mountains, so you will poke the young Bandera, whom your comrades-in-arms in Ukraine are raising, whom you shield so much here. You are funny creatures, trolls.
                      4. ironic
                        ironic April 30 2021 14: 31
                        -1
                        It’s your reflection that loses itself. And trolls like you can only reflect and can. You started to poke and to be rude, too, and this is not a joke. I have a wagon and a small cart in any post, but only such annoying ones, like you, will cling to it. Well, how can you do without rassism? You can't do without it. So start with yourself, you started to poke me first and you started to be rude to me. And when I was a young man, you were still a drop of genetic material in the appropriate place of the parent. Your comrades-in-arms bring up Nazism in the country to the winner of the Second World War You trolls are not funny, but evil and not human beings.
                      5. Sarboz
                        Sarboz April 30 2021 21: 45
                        0
                        Quote: ironic
                        but only such a nuisance as you will cling to it. Well, how can you do without rassism? You can't do without it.

                        Eck you got bogged down, darling. I do not like. It's good. You don’t know how to hook. Dad's youthful nozzle-at-end reception is the most fun.
                        Quote: ironic
                        You started to poke and to be rude too, and this is not a joke. So start with yourself, you started to poke me first and you started to be rude to me.

                        You have no sense of humor at all. Where did I manage to poke around like that? It was probably difficult for your meager mind to understand that this is just a quote from "The Caucasian Captive".
                        Quote: Sarboz
                        In short, Sklikhosofsky!

                        Now mister liar, give numerous quotes of the moments when I started poking first.
                        And calm down, take care of the nervous system. Act like a pimply teenager in a driveway. hi
                      6. ironic
                        ironic 2 May 2021 14: 17
                        0
                        And that's probably why you decided to run after me? Does that mean that sausage me? Well, sing your usual song. A sort of NLP network tricks. Ktob doubted that there was not enough intelligence for more. Youthful acne grows out of blunt attempts to point out childhood to someone. Indicate to your relatives. You have been raised with children's complexes, so take care not to produce them further. Others will cope with themselves, without your reflection. You have no other pleasures to see, if all that can please you is how you made someone out there on the net? Your relatives at the zoo are also making faces from the enclosure. You should join them. You see, 1% of the difference in the genome is not strongly disconnected from their level of intellectual activity. sad

                        If you have a sense of humor, then you see in your reality sad attempts to overcome 1% of natural genetic engineering are called. Symptomatic. Can't surprise even once. Especially the ability to compare. If I have a poor mind, then according to this principle, at best, you have a stop at the level of imprints. But I don't expect you to cook, which means. fool

                        So twice a liar (a liar that did not poke, and a liar that I am lying. This is how they treat a boorish and personal attack on you. That's how they communicate there. negative
                      7. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 2 May 2021 21: 02
                        0
                        Quote: ironic
                        So twice a liar (a liar that did not poke, and a liar that I lie.

                        You, sir, are a liar, a traitor. You have already shown everything to everyone, justifying the Ukrainian Bandera. Be crazy as much as you like. am
                        You have no proof of the huge losses of the 40th Army in Afghanistan. You have no facts of the murders of "students" by Berkut on the Maidan.
                      8. ironic
                        ironic 2 May 2021 22: 23
                        -1
                        And you, sir never, are twice a liar (you have already written above why) and a slanderer. It is you, not me, who are justifying racism, hatred and war hysteria. You are the same as Bandera only from the opposite barricade. And it is you who are mad, this is your reflection, not mine. I do not see rabies in myself and do not project such reflection on others. You have no explanation why information about losses is hushed up, and lies about the number of victims are promoted for reasons of false patriotism and you have never been at the site of dispersal and those who were there were not interrogated, but I was and interrogated. Therefore, you are twice a liar, a slanderer and a hate-monger. negative
                      9. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 3 May 2021 12: 48
                        0
                        Quote: ironic
                        You have no explanation why information about losses is hushed up, and lies about the number of victims are promoted for reasons of false patriotism and you have never been at the site of dispersal and those who were there were not interrogated, but I was and interrogated.

                        It is a great honor to answer such a windbag like you. I presented my evidence of data recognized in the world. And you, besides a short quote from the article of the doctor-gynecologist, did not bother to bring anything. I already wrote to you that the doctor did not investigate the topic of the losses of Soviet troops in Afghanistan, so you will never be able to quote anything from his purely medical works to prove your lie. Therefore, you are a liar.
                      10. ironic
                        ironic 3 May 2021 15: 03
                        -1
                        But you windbag has already answered so many "honor". Che run to the forum and write me posts in response? Recognized? Far from all and far from all over the world. But you are lying about the doctor, I wrote you a lot of things there and quoted a lot of quotes from him. But I do not expect from you a non-deceitful attitude, which is not adequately zombified by false patriotism. Zombies are not supposed to be in doubt, zombies must yell urya in rows. You are a multiple and partisan liar, in addition to everything, you are also a malicious slanderer, but this does not bother you.
                      11. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 3 May 2021 17: 39
                        0
                        Quote: ironic
                        But you are lying about the doctor, I wrote you a lot of things there and quoted a lot of quotes from him.

                        Liar, there was one single quote from the "doctor". And that's it! Take the trouble to find "he wrote a lot of things there, and a lot of quotes not of him"... You just have nothing to bring. It's time to admit that in the history of Afghanistan, you - utter layman.
                      12. ironic
                        ironic 3 May 2021 18: 09
                        0
                        Said a liar twice in every posting. A liar that I was alone and a liar that I was lying. You, except for the cleaned-up officialdom, have nothing to bring, and all your profanity is to hide the real number of victims and for the sake of which, for the sake of pathos and the faces of those who did not die there. For someone who fought there twice, shameful. For it turns out that he fought for someone else's status.
                      13. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 3 May 2021 18: 29
                        0
                        Quote: ironic
                        For someone who fought there twice, shameful. For it turns out that he fought for someone else's status.

                        What, you scoundrel, you have nothing to say? If only to leave the last word for yourself. I am waiting for the promised numerous quotes.
                      14. ironic
                        ironic 3 May 2021 19: 02
                        0
                        You yourself are a scoundrel, and a scoundrel at work. I'm not your servant, I dropped everything and ran to look for topics of correspondence with you. I wouldn't even bother to fart for you, let alone something to look for in what has already been written. Backed away from me. Once again, write me an insult, I will send a complaint against you.
                      15. Sarboz
                        Sarboz 3 May 2021 20: 24
                        0
                        Quote: ironic
                        You yourself are a scoundrel, and a scoundrel at work.

                        Well, who works here is clear from the statistics of the work done - 3784 messages for 4 months of work. I'm afraid I can't keep up with your achievements. Work, brothers trolls, work. You are beyond competition. Just stop poking me, complainer. They offended the boy, they do not let the dirt on the USSR and Russia be watered. Freedom of speech is limited.
                        Quote: ironic
                        I'm not your servant, I dropped everything and ran to look for topics of correspondence with you.

                        Servant, servant. Servant of his overseas masters. There is nothing to look for there, so you turn around like a frying pan. No beat, at least ... beat.
                      16. ironic
                        ironic 4 May 2021 14: 40
                        0
                        Well, this is just your reflection, you yourself are one of the troll brothers, so you only see them. What else can you see besides your own devils? Here you, with your gopnic statements, stop poking and being rude and you will not receive an eye for an eye according to the commandment.
                        And you are the servant of your densely well-fed stripes, they need such zombies as you are to work for them proving their image, as much as they say to find and publish, you will tell them so much. And the tambourines on the tails of the Focke-Wulfs drew, and we already heard it, we even know who to continue. Now the time has come when the little hands have become short. Seriously.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 20 2021 15: 23
    +2
    1. Isn't it time to ask what kind of "fun weed" mattresses do not do their own thing, especially on another continent?
    2. Russia does not understand the intentions of the mattresses in the annexed Alaska and demands to clarify them, and also expresses extreme indignation at the maneuvers of the mattress "army" in Alaska and around California. laughing
    1. ironic
      ironic April 25 2021 20: 49
      0
      1. They are interested in the situation of a sovereign country that refused nuclear weapons under their guarantees, they have the right. Under the guarantees of the Russian Federation, too, by the way.
      2. Understands, because Russia sold it for money. America did not annex Alaska. A bad attempt at humor on the subject of spacecraft maneuvers smells of revanchism, not laughter. request
      1. vl903
        vl903 April 25 2021 22: 12
        0
        America practically began to seize Alaska. And they took the money forcibly. although the people of the emperor did not understand and condemned. and now start a mess because of Alaska - people will say we have little strength, but Alaska is ours!
        1. ironic
          ironic April 26 2021 16: 01
          -1
          In practice, which international court has recognized this? But the rest of the post is pure revanchism.
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat April 26 2021 18: 14
            0
            If the facts are revanchism, then your all-prophecy is defeatist sentiments and treason. Although I suspect that you have nothing to do with Russia.
            1. ironic
              ironic April 27 2021 15: 41
              -1
              Revanchism is a fact that you preach. I served the country where I was born and my historical homeland and gave everything that was required under the relevant articles of the relevant laws, therefore your words about betrayal are a blood libel and a demonstration of immorality.
              1. Reserve buildbat
                Reserve buildbat April 27 2021 16: 50
                0
                Stop already so clearly demonstrating your illiteracy. Better go bang your head off the wall, wash your kippah, just do not flaunt your stupidity.
                1. ironic
                  ironic April 27 2021 18: 04
                  0
                  You still show me the origin, you are a racist. Your literacy is a memorized prayer of a zombie worshiper. You do not need to expose stupidity, no one in the mind will suspect zombified military hysteria.
                  1. Reserve buildbat
                    Reserve buildbat April 27 2021 18: 58
                    0
                    And where did racism go? That's for sure: All peoples boast of victories, And one "chosen by God" of how he was driven everywhere. laughing
                    1. ironic
                      ironic April 27 2021 23: 07
                      -1
                      Well, here's an example of racism itself arrived in time. negative
                      1. Reserve buildbat
                        Reserve buildbat April 28 2021 06: 01
                        0
                        That's how buggy you are ... Racism is seen everywhere, even without knowing the meaning of the word. laughing
                      2. ironic
                        ironic April 28 2021 18: 58
                        0
                        So you are a walking representation of the word. And you yourself are not a glitch, but a supplemented reality. You are so used to your racism that you also demand to consider it a daily norm. negative
        2. vl903
          vl903 April 26 2021 23: 26
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          and what is an international court? who believes him? who needs it? any court dries up when they think that it will be better than lynching. a judge must be respectful and credible. there must be a force that will force him to carry out his decision. only the United States has power. judges all, too, only the United States. there is no faith in the united states. only the United States needs such a court. what is your interest in lobbying some magistrates' courts? revanchism? Yes, this is healthy revanchism and a desire for revenge. then thanks to which the Russians are still alive on this planet. we have not only the right but also must take revenge in our homeland, otherwise your masters will eat us
          1. ironic
            ironic April 27 2021 15: 48
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            What is an international court and in what cases it can easily read information in an age of universal informational content. Whoever believes him or does not believe him is not determined by laws, laws determine what needs to be known, and not to believe so as not to violate them. Who needs it? People, so as not to turn into a herd of animals with higher nervous activity. Lynching is banditry and a sign of deep immorality. Not only the United States is signed under international laws, the Russian Federation is signed under many of them in the same way. The desire for revenge is an immoral state. Not for nothing was the commandment given to mankind not to take revenge. Animals eat each other, and in most cases not of the same species. The promotion of an image of a rearing, tailless, hairless primate with trannosaur instincts and lack of human traits is credited.
            1. vl903
              vl903 April 27 2021 21: 11
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              And who tried Milosevic? if there is such a court, then he himself must be hanged. for such a court is an attempt to give a convenient appearance to piracy. and a pirate is, for example, Morgan, who looked like a man; he seemed to be friends with kings, but he was not a man, though without a tail. it is these who are now splurge under the guise of world laws. and you are their servant.
              1. ironic
                ironic April 27 2021 21: 21
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                I am not idealizing courts of law, whatever, but if we abandon the legal obligations that countries take upon themselves, this is the way to dark times.
                1. vl903
                  vl903 April 27 2021 23: 03
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                  legal obligations between countries must be equal. for this, no one should try to become more important. but this is a beautiful ideal. like communism. but man is not perfect. which we are now seeing. the usa wants to be more equal than others and make everyone live according to their laws, calling them world-wide. much like the British forced the Chinese to observe the freedom of the drug trade by the British in China. and are still combing about freedom of navigation and trade in the Black Sea. and the Black Sea, as you know, was dug by the Ukrainians, that is, the Russians, so the sea was Russian and now it’s Russian and it’s not fucking to do amersky pelvis there. are they looking at the map? although of course they are watching and it enrages them that not all of their land is yet
                  1. ironic
                    ironic April 27 2021 23: 43
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                    Equality does not exist at all, there is universal responsibility for the obligations assumed. And the Black Sea is only yours and you will determine which laws are not valid in it? And where else will there not be a place for someone tomorrow?
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 20 2021 15: 26
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    We send the signal: "Who is that there?" And they send us back.
  • prior
    prior April 20 2021 17: 01
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    "The Pentagon urged Russia to "clarify".... "

    Russia called on the Pentagon to shut up.
    Everything became clear to everyone. wink
    1. ironic
      ironic April 25 2021 20: 44
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      When, where can you read about it?
  • 23424636
    23424636 April 20 2021 17: 36
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    The intention is simple. Ukraine is a PART of Russia, given to careless "winegrowers". For the time when the owner was absent.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 25 2021 20: 35
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      But what about the signed commitments? Or can a revenge be carried out without observing the signed obligations? One such revenge of history is known.
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet April 20 2021 17: 42
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    Quote: ironic
    President, Ministry of Defense and Parliament. Generalization that they are all fascists and / or they are all Bandera.

    Generalization all in Ukrainians from the same series, I do not have a single Ukrainian in my family and I am not a citizen of Ukraine.

    So this is either a denunciation of the agreement, but it was not, or a declaration of war, but it was not, or non-compliance with obligations, the third remains.

    I have been to Kharkiv more than once, and there everyone who wants to speak Russian, by the way, in Kiev too.



    Lagged behind life: the law was passed only balakat Svidomo. And fines are provided for violation ..
  • hohohol
    hohohol April 20 2021 19: 56
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    Quote: For example
    Put cancer on the Nazis. Return Russian lands. Clear the coast of the Azov and Black Seas from the Nazis.
    These are the intentions.

    The Pentagon still doesn't understand this.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 25 2021 20: 44
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      On the territory of a sovereign city? Well, this is really incomprehensible and requires an explanation.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 21 2021 12: 28
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    The Pentagon still does not understand Russia's intentions towards Ukraine and calls on it "clarify" them. This was stated by the spokesman for the US Department of Defense John Kirby.
    you have your woman "make it clear"! laughing
  • AML
    AML April 21 2021 22: 54
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    Quote: ironic
    Absolutely nothing, since the Russian Federation signed exactly under this very border, as the border of the integrity of Ukraine and several other countries. So there is.


    1) Neither the Russian Federation nor the United States signed anything. There was a memorandum and nothing more
    2) The moment you entered the vector of movement into NATO into the constitution, even if the agreements were ratified, they would lose their force.
    3) At the moment when you staged an armed coup, all agreements, both signed and unsigned, ended.

    You have done a bunch of deeds, and are looking for extreme ones. Ukraine itself is to blame for all its troubles.
    1. ironic
      ironic April 25 2021 20: 41
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      They were not the only ones who signed up.

      We? In general, I have nothing to do with Ukraine. Who decided that you lost? When the Russian Federation denounced its signature.

      We? In general, I learned about the events in Kiev from news portals, and I went to find out for myself when everything had settled down long ago. It is up to the guarantor countries and the UN Security Council to decide, and not at the forum, which signed document has lost its force or not. The Russian Federation has not officially denounced its signature from the owl, and Ukraine has not canceled the territorial integrity of the country by the UN Security Council.

      In general, I did not do any business in Ukraine. And what Ukraine is to blame can only be decided by an international court or the UN Security Council.
  • Burtas
    Burtas April 22 2021 11: 44
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    And this penthouse always needs more than everyone ... everything is in front of them in response. Everywhere you have to stick your beak. Less coups and murders of Gaspod Anglo-Saxons and their sycophants ...
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  • AML
    AML April 26 2021 00: 40
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    Quote: ironic
    They were not the only ones who signed up.

    Everything is simple. Show paper.

    Quote: ironic
    , and the UN Security Council did not abolish the territorial integrity of the country, Ukraine.


    At the time of the formation of Ukraine, Crimea was an autonomous republic. Something I do not remember that there was a referendum in which the Crimeans voted for the refusal of the Crimea from autonomy. So who violated what?
  • Sarboz
    Sarboz 3 May 2021 12: 47
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    Quote: ironic
    You have no explanation why information about losses is hushed up, and lies about the number of victims are promoted for reasons of false patriotism and you have never been at the site of dispersal and those who were there were not interrogated, but I was and interrogated.

    It is a great honor to answer such a windbag like you. I presented my evidence of data recognized in the world. And you, besides a short quote from the article of the doctor-gynecologist, did not bother to bring anything. I already wrote to you that the doctor did not investigate the topic of the losses of Soviet troops in Afghanistan, so you will never be able to quote anything from his purely medical works to prove your lie. Therefore, you are a liar.