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The area of ​​the exercise of the Ukrainian and Romanian navies was visible for tens of miles through the black smoke of the Horia Macellariu corvette

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There are some details of the joint exercises of the Ukrainian and Romanian navies in the Black Sea area. At the same time, the American designation for the standard inter-naval exercises PASSEX was used.


It became known that the Romanian corvette Horia Machellariu, named after the Rear Admiral of the Romanian Navy, who at one time participated in joint operations with Nazi Germany, took part in the maneuvers in the Black Sea. For example, Machellariu in 1944 led the operation to evacuate German and Romanian troops from Odessa and the Crimea, for which, as a result, the Nazis granted him a knightly iron cross. Machellariu lived to an old age - 95 years old, having died in Bucharest in 1989.

In the course of joint exercises with the Ukrainian Navy, air defense was practiced, and attacks were carried out "using small-sized high-speed craft" (this interpretation is used by the command of the Ukrainian naval forces).

The reports say that at one of the stages of the Black Sea exercises, the Romanian corvette played the role of a damaged ship, which was taken in tow and delivered to the basing point.

But even before the Horia Machellariu began to play the role of a damaged warship, there were suggestions that there was indeed a problem on board. The ship's boilers "gave out" black smoke, which was visible for tens of nautical miles.


In such a situation, the Ukrainian and Romanian navies could not even designate the area of ​​the exercises - this area was clearly visible from the black smoke of the Horia Macellariu corvette.
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The Ukrainian Navy
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 20 2021 08: 23
    +3
    "Novice" was added to the solarium, you know who! laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 20 2021 08: 31
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      "Novice" was added to the solarium, you know who!

      And who will give them "Novichok", that's what the diesel fuel with donkey urine was used to unleash it by the smoke you can see.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 20 2021 08: 54
        +3
        Yes, there are a lot of donkeys in Romania - I saw it myself)))
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 20 2021 09: 09
          0
          Quote: TermNachTER
          Yes, there are a lot of donkeys in Romania - I saw it myself)))

          Well, not all, there are also Hungarians, Russians, Bulgarians.
          1. NIKN
            NIKN April 20 2021 09: 32
            +3
            Gypsies they are Gypsies, and even in conjunction with Ukraine ..., some offered cheap solarium, others bought and welded in reports.
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis April 20 2021 10: 56
              +5
              Quote: NIKNN
              Gypsies they are Gypsies, and even in conjunction with Ukraine ..., some offered cheap solarium, others bought and welded in reports.

              Anecdote - "Romanian-Svidoukr naval exercises !! laughing "...... suckers and mamylyzhniki merged in the ecstasy of hatred for Russia. some on inflatable boats, others on an ancient pepelatse ...
              1. Ren
                Ren April 20 2021 12: 03
                +1
                Quote: 30 vis
                Anecdote - "Romanian-Svidoukr naval exercises !!

                And the exercises were carried out in the waters of Zmeiny Island. lol
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft April 20 2021 12: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Ren
                  And the exercises were carried out in the waters of Zmeiny Island. lol

                  This was the first territorial loss of the "ancient Sumerians" following the results of the first Maidan ...
              2. Ryaruav
                Ryaruav April 20 2021 18: 23
                +1
                don't run into hominy, it's a good thing
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis April 20 2021 19: 32
                  0
                  And the Romanians themselves are not a bad people ... Merry, drunkards, ... These are the chief executives they now have so ugly ...
          2. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer April 26 2021 12: 08
            0
            I'm not talking about people, but about animals))) when I first came to Romania, I was very surprised at the number of these animals and their widespread use for transport purposes))))
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 20 2021 09: 26
      0
      The ship's boilers "gave out" black smoke, which was visible for tens of nautical miles.

      And this foreign country giggled about the smoke from the "Kuzi" ?! And what about yourself? Where is their environmentally friendly Euro-5 fuel, no ?! They probably run on fuel oil, they clog the atmosphere!
    3. alex neym_2
      alex neym_2 April 20 2021 16: 54
      0
      Waste a "newbie" on this junk? Well, excuse me, this is really gorgeous - they will manage with donkey urine and dilute the LNG of the mattress spill ...
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 20 2021 08: 26
    +1
    the area was clearly visible from the black smoke of the corvette "Horia Machellariu"
    And they dragged to our Kuzya! Kuza is supposed to smoke according to his rank! lol
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 April 20 2021 08: 28
    +6
    Not our problems, not interesting.
    That's when ours smoke, then you can attend.
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose April 20 2021 08: 57
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Not our problems, not interesting.

      Exactly. Maybe they staged a maidan on board with burning tires. What to take from them? Romanians - in one word.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 20 2021 09: 15
        +2
        Somehow it is that we are not alone at the expense of the Romanian Armed Forces joking .... in NATO they joke no less.
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose April 20 2021 09: 23
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          Somehow we are not the only ones joking about the Romanian Armed Forces

          And not only about the sun. Expression: "What are you, Romanian?" in different regions of Russia has the same pronounced intonation, emphasizing the doubts of the questioner about the mental abilities of the questioned person.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 20 2021 09: 28
            0
            Well, in a tolerant geyrope, they believe that Romanians, that a gypsy, is the same ... Hollywood is also not lagging behind in films about bandits.
    2. cniza
      cniza April 20 2021 09: 27
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      Not our problems, not interesting.
      That's when ours smoke, then you can attend.


      There is nothing wrong, it used to be that smoke contributed to its detection, but now it is seen much earlier than smoke ...

      Good time! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 20 2021 09: 31
        +2
        We just have fun ...
        Smoke is visible on the radar, lo and behold, or else a Romanian is floating ...
        1. cniza
          cniza April 20 2021 09: 33
          +2
          Well, yes, and set the green ones on them ... laughing
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 20 2021 09: 39
            +2
            That already seriously ran into those who use MAZUT as fuel !!! It is not clear what they want to "fuel" the ships ??? There is NOT ENOUGH of rapeseed oil and other green heaps !!! And it's not so "clean, green" if you look at it !!!
            1. cniza
              cniza April 20 2021 10: 02
              +4
              Fairy tales are all about green, you just had to make money on windmills, solar panels, etc., and they have efficiency ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 20 2021 10: 26
                +2
                Nature, for free, does not give anything away!
                We have to take it, almost by force!
                This is also not good, right, you have to be very careful, we have no other planet!
                1. cniza
                  cniza April 20 2021 11: 45
                  +3
                  Yes, we have one land and some are very barbaric ...
            2. Ren
              Ren April 20 2021 12: 11
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              That already seriously ran into those who use MAZUT as fuel !!! It is not clear what they want to "fuel" the ships ???

              Methanol and ethanol are promising marine fuels. wassat
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 20 2021 12: 27
                +1
                A derivative of gas processing .... volatile, explosive filth, besides, poisonous not worse than BOV !!! Very promising, especially on ships ...
                The process of obtaining environmentally friendly fuel leaves behind so much "dirt" that many are wondering, is it worth the candle ???
                If you look at it, the whole "green theme" is clean, very short of my existence !!! The fact that in the production of means of production of greenery, a lot of dirt is formed, green activists prefer to be silent !!!
                Note that I am not against the alternative, I just think that it should be done IN CLEARLY! But not so, here we treat, there we ring ...
  4. Pereira
    Pereira April 20 2021 08: 28
    +1
    Yes, it's not really stealth.
  5. alexey2073
    alexey2073 April 20 2021 08: 28
    +14
    Well, it happens. Everyone is smoking a little. Design features of some power plants and their operation, plus some more factors.





    hi
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS April 20 2021 09: 02
      +13
      Quite right, only ships with a nuclear power plant do not smoke at all. There is a simple rule for classifying ship smoke:
      "Blue smoke is oil, white smoke is water, black smoke is fuel." It's very simple: the pipes smoke, because the boilers in steam power plants are warming up on the ship. It's like starting a car in a cold winter morning. It is the same here - first the boilers are warmed up, during this process it smokes a lot, and then the engine goes into normal mode. It should be understood that the same principle of operation of engines and on civilian ships, there is nothing wrong with that. Sometimes it can only be an instantaneous release of the fuel mixture or condensate from the exhaust pipes, but sometimes it can be “fired up to glory.” But when driving in the open sea and at full speed - black (gray, white) smoke is, unfortunately, a sign that the ship's propulsion system suffers from any of the listed ailments: it eats and fills oil, evaporates completely inappropriate water, or "drinks", no matter how much, excess fuel, throwing soot into the sky.
  6. prior
    prior April 20 2021 08: 28
    +5
    Judging by the name of the corvette, Romanians are proud of their fascist past.
    Well, why should I feel sorry for them?
    There is a lot of space at the bottom of the Black Sea, and there is enough space for the Romanians. negative
  7. mark1
    mark1 April 20 2021 08: 29
    +9
    The Ministry of Emergency Situations had to join the exercises - a couple of Be-200 calls, several tons of water at the source of smoke.
    - "anonymous call was received ..." request
    1. sniperino
      sniperino April 20 2021 10: 35
      -1
      Quote: mark1
      a couple of Be-200 calls, several tons of water to the smoke source
      Is the Be-200 not charged with acid and alkali? It would be more spectacular: an iceberg of white foam is moving into the sea, and even Aphrodite will come out.
  8. Popandos
    Popandos April 20 2021 08: 30
    +6
    The ship's boilers "gave out" black smoke that could be seen for tens of nautical miles.

    Oh, these overland journalists, even a dozen miles is 18,52 km, let alone dozens.
    To see the smoke from such a distance with your eyes, you need to set the entire corvette on fire.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin April 20 2021 08: 44
      -3
      Quote: Popandos
      To see the smoke from such a distance with your eyes, you need to set the entire corvette on fire.

      Interestingly, and where is it written with "eyes"? Or the use of any optics is prohibited on the Black Sea ...
      1. Popandos
        Popandos April 20 2021 08: 56
        +2
        It is not forbidden, I myself often look at peepers, but still it will not work because physics won't allow
        From the height of a man's height, the flat surface of the sea goes beyond the horizon about five kilometers. To double this distance, up to 10 km, you need to climb four times higher - on an eight-meter mast.
        1. Volodin
          Volodin April 20 2021 09: 01
          0
          Quote: Popandos
          From the height of human growth, the flat surface of the sea goes beyond the horizon about five kilometers ... you need to climb four times higher

          For some reason, you are not considering the opposite option. After all, the smoke from the Romanian ship rose to a height of 40-45 m
      2. Popandos
        Popandos April 20 2021 09: 01
        -1
        If it's really really interesting, you can study the issue in detail
        You won't even see 50 meters
        https://flot.com/publications/books/shelf/shipnavigation/13.htm
        1. Volodin
          Volodin April 20 2021 09: 05
          0
          Quote: Popandos
          If it's really really interesting, you can study the issue in detail

          Once again, remember that the smoke rose into the air, not drifted over the surface.
          1. Popandos
            Popandos April 20 2021 09: 09
            0
            The article was not looked at, but in vain, here is a plate for clarity
            Something went wrong, I can't insert a table. Open the link there everything is painted, what can be seen from what distance
  9. Dimide
    Dimide April 20 2021 08: 34
    -1
    I do not understand the meaning of such articles. Would you like to have breakdowns in everyone, "hardware" however
    1. Volodin
      Volodin April 20 2021 08: 38
      0
      Quote: Dimid
      I don't understand the meaning of such articles

      And the point is at least that in the Romanian fleet there is a ship named after an accomplice of Nazi Germany. For a second ... But for you it seems to be "in the order of things" ...
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 20 2021 09: 11
        +2
        I would not be surprised if this admiral in 1944-1945 fought on the side of the anti-Hitler coalition.
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 April 20 2021 09: 27
        -1
        Quote: Volodin
        ... in the Romanian fleet there is a ship named after an accomplice of Hitlerite Germany.

        What is surprising here?
        The Romanian army fought on the side of Germany, and fought not nominally, but in reality, and not with one division ...
        We have over there and then, from time to time, they try to erect monuments to the enemies ...
      3. Revolver
        Revolver April 20 2021 10: 10
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        in the Romanian fleet there is a ship named after an accomplice of Nazi Germany

        And the fact that Stalin presented the Order of Victory to the Romanian king Mihai, who nominally ruled under Antonescu, how is that? If this admiral lived under the communist regime of Ceausescu to a very old age, then probably either the communists had no claims to him for serving the fascists, or, even more likely, changed his shoes in a jump.
      4. Dimide
        Dimide April 20 2021 10: 32
        +1
        Smiled, if the communist Ceausescu did not "criticize" and the Securitate had no complaints, and he died in Bucharest in 1989, then who are you to judge him?
    2. Ka-52
      Ka-52 April 20 2021 08: 45
      +6
      I do not understand the meaning of such articles. Would you like to have breakdowns in everyone, "hardware" however

      our Kuzma was not spared not only by Internet commentators, but even by reputable foreign publications. What were you feeling then? Have pity on the Ukrainians and the Romanians?
      1. Dimide
        Dimide April 20 2021 10: 43
        0
        Why regret it, thank God no one seems to have drowned and the planes didn’t fall. No, I’m just stating the fact that someone’s memory is short. Give obstructions for “smoke” when you have the same at the wall ...
    3. sniperino
      sniperino April 20 2021 11: 02
      0
      Quote: Dimid
      I don’t understand the meaning of such articles.
      I like this. There was no need to joke about "Kuzey". It is not a sin to mock those who mocked, but a lesson.
      1. Dimide
        Dimide April 20 2021 12: 24
        -2
        VO seems to be a serious media, but some articles give an open "yellowness", quality is lost
        1. sniperino
          sniperino April 20 2021 12: 51
          -1
          Quote: Dimid
          VO seems to be a serious media, but some articles give an open "yellowness", quality is lost
          Does the article about the Navy exercises of a potential enemy "give off yellowness"? There is basically one paragraph discussed here.
          But even before the Horia Machellariu began to play the role of a damaged warship, there were suggestions that there was indeed a problem on board. The ship's boilers "gave out" black smoke, which was visible for tens of nautical miles.
          So the claims of specialists are connected mainly with "tens of nautical miles". And about the smoke, this is after the article on VO for 2016
          Smoke "Kuznetsova" recalls his "sick heart"
          1. Dimide
            Dimide April 20 2021 13: 05
            0
            The main attention is paid to the "smoke", the name and biography of the admiral.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino April 20 2021 14: 37
              0
              Quote: Dimid
              The main attention is paid to the "smoke", the name and biography of the admiral.
              Is the name of a modern warship named after a fascist henchman "yellowness"? This is the main military-political characteristic of the teachings of the Nazis. Or is there a lot of interesting things in these exercises, but we were not told?
  10. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 20 2021 08: 34
    0
    For example, Machellariu in 1944 led the operation to evacuate German and Romanian troops from Odessa and the Crimea, for which, as a result, the Nazis awarded him a knightly iron cross.
    In vain, of course, Comrade Stalin did not occupy Romania and everyone who fought on Hitler's side should have been sent to the Gulag.
  11. Tagan
    Tagan April 20 2021 08: 37
    +4
    Just do not compare with "Kuzey". This is different! "Horia" was on afterburner.))
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus April 20 2021 08: 42
      +2
      So it was already said above, the boatswain simply used donkey urine in the place of nitrous oxide. Well, what to take from him, one word - Romanian. laughing
  12. Russobel
    Russobel April 20 2021 08: 43
    +4
    Firewood had to be heated, the smoke would be white, and there was no need to raise the flag ...
  13. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 20 2021 09: 03
    +2
    When a cold boiler is fired up, all ships start up the "cap", some more, others less. Not surprising.
  14. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 20 2021 09: 10
    0
    Quote: tihonmarine
    In vain, of course, Comrade Stalin did not occupy Romania and everyone who fought on Hitler's side should have been sent to the Gulag.

    There were enough Romanians in captivity.
  15. donavi49
    donavi49 April 20 2021 09: 21
    +3
    It always smokes, due to the nature of the boilers and their maintenance. Here is 2012.


    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 20 2021 11: 06
      0
      Quote: donavi49
      It always smokes, due to the nature of the boilers

      belay Are they there?
    2. businessv
      businessv April 21 2021 08: 37
      0
      Like our Kuznetsov, for comparison
  16. cniza
    cniza April 20 2021 09: 24
    +1
    Machellariu lived to an old age - 95 years old, having died in Bucharest in 1989.


    Why? The USSR could not oversleep him so easily, which means ...
  17. Serg65
    Serg65 April 20 2021 09: 34
    +4
    The ship's boilers "gave out" black smoke

    There are diesel engines!
  18. Undecim
    Undecim April 20 2021 09: 54
    +5
    The ship's boilers "gave out" black smoke, which was visible for tens of nautical miles.

    It is immediately clear what the specialist wrote.
    There are no boilers on the Eustaiu Sebastian class corvettes. They have a diesel engine.
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 20 2021 10: 40
    0
    Well, what are you. The ship of a NATO member cannot smoke, it was he who misled the alleged enemy. And the Ukrainians find it easier to navigate the sea seeing the smoke of an "ally."
  20. Castro Ruiz
    Castro Ruiz April 20 2021 12: 10
    -1
    Nekachestveniy ugol bunkirovali. Bivaet. :)
  21. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 20 2021 13: 40
    0
    But even before the Horia Machellariu began to play the role of a damaged warship, there were suggestions that there was indeed a problem on board. The ship's boilers "gave out" black smoke, which was visible for tens of nautical miles.


    Shyly I want to remind you of how "Kuzya" puffed, covering foggy Albion with soot, when it returned from a military campaign, where it ditched two of its own aircraft and how all of Europe was laughing from it. And then, deciding to surpass itself, "Kuzya" flooded the largest floating dock, or rather "freelance plunged to the bottom" and raked its own deck with a crane. But even this turned out to be not enough, it was necessary to catch up with it inside during a fire.

    Maybe it's enough to poke bitches in someone else's eye, when in his own not just a log, but a whole windbreak for a long time: but with what understanding do we declare "moved the term to the right" - that's what it is called now?
    This is not only not funny, but also not normal.
  22. Wolf
    Wolf April 20 2021 16: 06
    0
    Everything is in its place as on the eve of the Great Patriotic War 4 Reich was formed as a servant and cattle for slaughter are ready. The difference in relation to the Second World War is that now RAIKH has a long-standing Anglo-Saxon behind his back, but then it was not, the Anglo-Saxons helped clandestinely, And that Ukraine and Poland were added 4 Reich, and in the Second World War they were not.
  23. Tcheluskin
    Tcheluskin April 20 2021 22: 22
    0
    I googled, Romania and Bulgaria have about the same ersatz fleet as Ukraine. Although the first two nominally have missile frigates and boats, but, as I understand it, anti-ship missiles were either removed from them (Exocets from the Romanian ex-British Type 22 and Bulgarian ex-Dutch Wilingen), or are absent beyond the expiration of their service life (Soviet P-15 ).
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  25. Peaceful SEO
    Peaceful SEO April 22 2021 08: 16
    0
    We got used to the role well :)
  26. rus-5819
    rus-5819 8 May 2021 16: 09
    0
    Completely "killed" the Russian fleet in the person ("Admiral Kuznetsov") and the modern Romanian frigate, glorified the name of the evacuator of the Nazis. He and the other smoked, but for different reasons. The admiral indicated his presence near the shores of an unfriendly country, and "Horia" successfully portrayed the victim. And the non-brothers again turned out to be the "savior of the world". The conclusion is clear as a tree stump.
  27. Igor Vorobyov
    Igor Vorobyov 3 June 2021 18: 35
    0
    You can be a couch patriot, but not an idiot, they refueled with dark fuel, and that's the smoke, moreover, according to the legend of the exercises, the ship was damaged, so it smoked for more realism. Comments give such a feeling from kindergarten