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In the German press: NATO does not have many opportunities with regard to Ukraine against Russia

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The European media continues to actively discuss the topic related to checking the combat readiness of Russian troops. In the West, the movement of the RF Armed Forces on the western borders of the country is considered either "preparation for the invasion of Ukraine" or "the Kremlin's flexing its muscles before possible negotiations with Biden."


The situation is being discussed in the German press as well. The major German edition FAZ, commenting on the events of recent weeks, indicates that NATO is talking about a "military crisis".

From the material:

No one in NATO believes Moscow's words about a planned combat readiness test. The Kremlin is once again distorting reality by moving tens of thousands of its military to the Ukrainian borders, ships from other waters to the Black Sea.

At the same time, the German author writes that words are being heard from the United States to Kiev about the need to maintain restraint and not give in to panic. It was noted that the head of the Pentagon Lloyd Austin announced "support for Ukraine", but more often in the West the phrase is heard that NATO will not fight with Russia because of Ukraine.

From the article:

In fact, this means a directive from the United States and NATO for Kiev: Do nothing! And what else can NATO say to Kiev? The alliance does not have many opportunities with regard to Ukraine versus Russia. Ukraine is a NATO partner, but nothing more.

The German press notes that NATO is "giving in to Russia in Ukraine."

The German media urge EU officials to act, who "could help Ukraine with anti-Russian sanctions." In particular, it is proposed to introduce economic sanctions for the alleged closure of the Azov Sea by Russia. Earlier, statements that the Russian Federation had closed the Kerch Strait for a long time were called false in Moscow.
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  1. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose April 19 2021 18: 43
    +27
    The stronger our "muscle flexing", the more reasonable the conclusions in EuroMedia, NATO and the Pentagon
    1. NIKN
      NIKN April 19 2021 18: 54
      +13
      or "muscle flexing of the Kremlin ahead of possible negotiations with Biden."
      But somehow we did not try to communicate with Biden, he was the first to start. request
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 April 19 2021 20: 02
        +3
        Quote: NIKNN
        he started first.

        very much a Soviet phrase for children, adults usually - We must hit first!
        1. poquello
          poquello April 19 2021 20: 25
          +5
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Quote: NIKNN
          he started first.

          very much a Soviet phrase for children, adults usually - We must hit first!

          adults usually understand when to hit first, and ideally the response should start after the start of the attack and be realized before it
        2. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus April 19 2021 20: 27
          0
          In adults, the idiot is usually the one who came to the shootout with a knife (Ukraine). There will be, there will not be a shootout, and a goof will make any pants.
          1. poquello
            poquello April 19 2021 21: 28
            0
            Quote: Rusticolus
            In adults, the idiot is usually the one who came to the shootout with a knife (Ukraine). There will be, there will not be a shootout, and a goof will make any pants.

            maybe with a fork? after all, two blows - eight holes)
    2. xorek
      xorek April 19 2021 18: 55
      +10
      Quote: Polite Moose
      The stronger our "muscle flexing", the more reasonable the conclusions in EuroMedia, NATO and the Pentagon

      Well, judging by how they canceled the campaign of their ships in the World Cup, then it worked and Zelensky spoke sharply about the world .. There were good teachings! hi
    3. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 19 2021 18: 56
      +2
      And where are there reasonable conclusions, I'm talking about this news?
      1. knn54
        knn54 April 19 2021 19: 30
        +1
        Desires are even less.
      2. 210ox
        210ox April 19 2021 19: 34
        +3
        Judging by the reports from Donbass (Lord of the Sith), there are no reasonable conclusions. Everything is the same.
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose April 19 2021 20: 34
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          Judging by the reports from Donbass (Lord of the Sith), there are no reasonable conclusions. Everything is the same.

          In the independent conclusions and will not (for the time being). They are not supposed to draw conclusions. Their task is to poke a bear with a stick, without thinking about the consequences.
        2. xorek
          xorek April 19 2021 20: 38
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          Judging by the reports from Donbass (Lord of the Sith), there are no reasonable conclusions. Everything is the same.

          They are waiting for Russia to go to war .. And we all do not come ..))) Donbass itself is holding on normally .. But soon something will happen!
          1. ROSS_51
            ROSS_51 April 19 2021 21: 03
            -1
            Quote: xorek

            They are waiting for Russia to go to war .. And we all do not come ..))) Donbass itself is holding on normally .. But soon something will happen!

            I, too, in 14 thought that Donbass was holding on, until the news began to say that Donbass had formed the second tank battalion from "captured" tanks ..))
            1. xorek
              xorek April 19 2021 21: 30
              0
              Quote: ROSS_51
              Quote: xorek

              They are waiting for Russia to go to war .. And we all do not come ..))) Donbass itself is holding on normally .. But soon something will happen!

              I, too, in 14 thought that Donbass was holding on, until the news began to say that Donbass had formed the second tank battalion from "captured" tanks ..))

              And what's the big deal ...?
              1. andrew42
                andrew42 April 20 2021 19: 41
                0
                It is necessary for the Donbass to form three more divisions by Iskander. Yes, I did not delay the application. For every 80 mm mine - one Iskander in response. For each 120 mm - two. Yes, at the headquarters, at his headquarters, you bastard. Then something really changes.
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 19 2021 20: 42
        0
        Quote: Mitroha
        And where are there reasonable conclusions, I'm talking about this news?

        Well, Duc, for example:
        from the United States to Kiev, words are heard about the need to maintain restraint and not succumb to panic.

        in the West, they say that NATO will not fight with Russia because of Ukraine.

        The alliance does not have many opportunities with regard to Ukraine versus Russia. Ukraine is a NATO partner, but nothing more.
    4. ROSS_51
      ROSS_51 April 19 2021 21: 00
      +5
      Quote: Polite Moose
      The stronger our "muscle flexing", the more reasonable the conclusions in EuroMedia, NATO and the Pentagon

      Doesn't sound like simple muscle flexing. The APU will twitch and we have a couple of divisions on "vacation" will leave and go to visit their grandmother in Donetsk. Or do you think miners arranged professional boilers for the National Battalions? Although .. now it will not be necessary to hide, they will enter to protect Russian citizens and enforce peace. After Crimea, I have no doubt that there are detailed plans for a military operation.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 19 2021 21: 23
        +1
        Quote: ROSS_51
        Doesn't sound like simple muscle flexing

        It may very well be. In any case, the muscles of the skakuas have already been brought under the very nose. 2 armies + airborne units, and even from the state of the exercises - it's not the sparrows who were blowing.
    5. Terenin
      Terenin April 19 2021 22: 32
      +5
      from the United States to Kiev, words about the need to maintain restraint are heard
      This fairy tale, you tell your grandmother at night crying

      and don't panic.
      Oh, everything is correct here yes
    6. skif8013
      skif8013 April 19 2021 22: 37
      +2
      Quote: Polite Moose
      The stronger our "muscle flexing", the more reasonable the conclusions in EuroMedia, NATO and the Pentagon

      Apparently this enema helps)
    7. for
      for April 20 2021 01: 48
      0
      Quote: Polite Elk
      the more reasonable the conclusions in EuroMedia,

      And what's that?
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 20 2021 07: 04
        0
        Quote: for
        And what's that?

        THIS is mentioned in the very first line of the article. If your question should be understood a little more broadly, then yes, these media are IT and they are. In relation to Russia.
  2. cniza
    cniza April 19 2021 18: 43
    +3
    Earlier statements that the Russian Federation closed the Kerch Strait for a long time,


    Fear has big eyes ...
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 19 2021 20: 52
      0
      In the German press: NATO does not have many opportunities with regard to Ukraine against Russia

      You shouldn't know ... After all, this is:
      June twenty-second
      At exactly four o’clock
      Kiev bombed,
      We were told
      That the war began ...

      ==========
      Ukraine, forgive the comparison, a moth-eaten fur coat. Wear? Funny and indecent. Throw it away? But, there are still large pieces of untouched fur. Give moths for food? Expensive feeding and no good.
      Russia does not plan to wage war with Ukraine and then deal with the results of the playoff. The same EU viewers are interested in how the former fraternal peoples will be cut. They are afraid of one thing. The fact that the Russian Federation will not go to war with Ukraine, but "zhahnet" in Brussels (or somewhere else) in order to prevent encroachments on sovereignty and against the threat of destruction of statehood. These "warriors" are standing, flowing around and shouting whatever comes to mind ... And the Russian Foreign Ministry would have to thoroughly clarify the essence of this mess: is it nonsense of individual media editors or the open state policy of European countries.
      ==========
      I have spoken for a long time and will continue to do so. Today the weak are not spared. Therefore, it is impossible to miss threats and insults to the COUNTRY AND PEOPLE, to sacrifice one's own interests and sovereignty, or to sing to someone else's flute or saxophone in order to preserve the decency and respectability of a person. Moreover, it is shameful in front of ancestors and disgusting in front of children and grandchildren.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 19 2021 21: 33
        +3
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Ukraine, forgive the comparison, a moth-eaten fur coat. Wear? Funny and indecent. Throw it away? But, there are still large pieces of untouched fur. Give moths for food? Expensive feeding and no good.

        To shave a fur coat, to shoo a moth, to corrode the larvae. But this is only after the fur coat (most of it) gets tired of rotting in the closet. The resulting sheepskin coat, impregnated with antimoly, albeit shortened, will be quite suitable for wearing. Not to the parade, but still. The owner of the moth must pay the bill for shaving and antimol.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin April 19 2021 22: 34
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      Earlier statements that the Russian Federation closed the Kerch Strait for a long time,


      Fear has big eyes ...

      What is the size of the Crimean bridge, belay such fears in Ukraine
      1. hydrox
        hydrox April 20 2021 16: 49
        0
        Everyone was told in good Russian that only the movement of military vessels and vessels of state ownership is prohibited, commercial transportation - as usual: upon request and by permission, inspection - as usual: maybe, over the last week, which has changed ...
        We are waiting for the start of large military exercises ...
  3. KKND
    KKND April 19 2021 18: 43
    +3
    Look, you were so scared of our movement of troops that they started talking about abandoning the joint venture. Well, nothing, you Europeans haven't seen a hungry bear yet. laughing
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 19 2021 18: 44
    +3
    It would be time for the sanctions against our country to rigidly put Europe in its place, and ask the Ukrainian authorities for shelling the civilian population of Donbass. NATO will not intercede for ukroinu, they will simply drive ukrovoyak to the slaughter, accusing Russia of all sins.
    1. xorek
      xorek April 19 2021 18: 58
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      It would be time for the sanctions against our country to rigidly put Europe in its place, and ask the Ukrainian authorities for shelling the civilian population of Donbass. NATO will not intercede for ukroinu, they will simply drive ukrovoyak to the slaughter, accusing Russia of all sins.

      Yes, it would be high time to hit and roar with his fist all over Europe .. We have nothing to lose all in sanctions and all deadly sins are accused .. Already even a habit has developed.
      The West only understands strength and our allies Army and Navy! ..
    2. Terenin
      Terenin April 19 2021 22: 36
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      It would be time for the sanctions against our country to rigidly put Europe in its place, and ask the Ukrainian authorities for shelling the civilian population of Donbass. NATO will not intercede for ukroinu, they will simply drive ukrovoyak to the slaughter, accusing Russia of all sins.

      Quite right, for a lesser threat than Ukraine to Russia, Israel bombs, explodes, kills, cyberattacks ... Iran - mercilessly.
  5. Russobel
    Russobel April 19 2021 18: 52
    +2
    Honestly already so tired of this European whine ...
    It's time to calm down, oh, what am I talking about ...
  6. alpamys
    alpamys April 19 2021 19: 25
    +2
    What the German media write and what the Germans think are two huge differences.
    Here under the video, the Germans' comments on the expulsion of Czech diplomats, some words of support to the Russian leadership for such a decision.
    As they say ... we draw conclusions.

    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell April 19 2021 19: 48
      +3
      Quote: alpamys
      What the German media write and what the Germans think are two huge differences.

      It's just that all these newly emerged "democracies" they got the old Europe: Germany feeds them, gives them water - and these, at the behest of the staff members, "shit" ...
  7. kventinasd
    kventinasd April 19 2021 19: 41
    +1
    NATO has few opportunities with regard to Ukraine versus Russia

    I am sure that even if Russia polishes three grunting Baltic "monsters" - members of the alliance, NATO will also express concern and nothing more. Well, maybe some other sanctions will be thrown. and will continue to scream. Fear is great and few people want to die for idiotic ideas.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 19 2021 20: 13
      0
      Quote: kventinasd
      even if Russia crushes three grunting Baltic "monsters" - members of the alliance into dust, NATO will also express concern and nothing more.

      Do we need these "monsters"? A lot of screeching - little use. No really. Press, so those who have some weight, and better than a common sugar daddy - the United States. Then let all these tribalts sit and bite their elbows
      1. kventinasd
        kventinasd April 19 2021 20: 41
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Do we need these "monsters"?

        Well, from a geostrategic point of view, it would not hurt to have more control over the Baltic.
        And in economic terms, they are no longer particularly interested in the European Union.
      2. xorek
        xorek April 19 2021 20: 43
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Do we need these "monsters"? A lot of screeching - little use.

        That's exactly how Elena !!!
        Quote: Egoza
        Press, so those who have some weight, and better than a common sugar daddy - the United States. Then let all these tribalts sit and bite their elbows

        The wasp's nest has long been identified, and these buzzers are more expensive to pay attention to. hi
        You need to work closely with the Anglo-Saxons, etc. This is the main goal! hi
        1. hydrox
          hydrox April 20 2021 16: 54
          +1
          Let's start the exercises (if the APU does not start playing naughty earlier) - that the Anglo-Saxons, that the minke whales with their pelvis will blow away like the wind ...
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 19 2021 19: 44
    +2
    By the evening, the hysteria subsided, but no, the Czechs pulled up again. We did not expect that the Russians would respond so strongly, the European Union would support us, send Russian diplomats. And in response, there is silence. BB and muhamora.
  9. alien
    alien April 19 2021 19: 44
    +2
    It was noted that the head of the Pentagon Lloyd Austin announced "support for Ukraine", but more often in the West the phrase is heard that NATO will not fight with Russia because of Ukraine.

    American Batman has disappeared somewhere ...


    Poroshenko and Kravchuk understand that after what they have done, they can save their skin only under the umbrella of the United States. Hence all their movements to NATO.
    Silly ...

    "When Tsar Peter won the victory at Poltava, Mazepa fled to Turkey. On this occasion, the tsar made a journal note:
    “Mazepa, being in Bender, poisoned himself for some time. And tacos decent for their business Received the death of Judah”."

    http://russianmind.com/o-sokrovishhah-kochubeev/
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бендеры#В_составе_Османской_империи

    ================================
    Theo Gurieli:
    "" The European countries that are members of the NATO bloc are assigned the role of a vanguard, which should donatefor the victory of the main forces - the USA "
    Let's be honest. Washington's influence on European politics is so great, and its control over NATO and the European Union is so tight that the United States is quite capable of using European countries. as a consumable.
    If America takes such a criminal step as unleashing a world war, its politicians, apparently, expect that in the battles in the European and Asian theaters, Russia will be forced to use up a significant part of its strategic weapons. and then the main strategic forces of the United States will enter into action. The fate of the countries on whose territory American troops, bases and weapons are located, as well as of all NATO countries together, American strategists, apparently, do not care much, or rather - does not care in any way."
    https://russianmind.com/novye-provokaczii-nato/
    1. Gardener91
      Gardener91 April 19 2021 21: 43
      0
      Quote: Alien
      Washington's influence on European politics is so great, and its control over NATO and the European Union is so tight that the United States is quite capable of using European countries as a consumable.

      Give up the monopoly on the production of dollars at least to the Gambia and untie oil from the green, then the influence of Washington will sink into oblivion.
      1. alien
        alien April 19 2021 22: 18
        -3
        Quote: Gardener91
        then the influence of Washington will sink into oblivion.

        Против scrap no reception ...
        "In Germany until the early 1990s, according to German media, there were from 150 to 200 atomic bombs. Today the number of warheads is estimated at 20, we are talking about hydrogen bombs of the B61 type.
        The deployment of this arsenal is part of NATO's strategy for the joint use of nuclear weapons: as a member of the alliance, Germany is obliged to participate in its nuclear program. This guarantees Berlin a say in the planning or conduct of NATO's nuclear operations. In exchange, Germany is committed to providing aircraft capable of carrying atomic weapons and storing nuclear warheads on its territory. "
        https://www.dw.com/ru/американские-ядерные-бомбы-в-германии-убрать-нельзя-оставить/a-53329493
  10. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 April 19 2021 19: 48
    +5
    Quote: Polite Moose
    The stronger our "muscle flexing", the more reasonable the conclusions in EuroMedia, NATO and the Pentagon

    it was necessary to do this immediately after the first shots
  11. Looking for
    Looking for April 19 2021 21: 26
    +2
    in the meantime, democracy in the Russian Federation is breaking all records. "We wish complete and crushing defeat in Ukraine to the vile Russian aggressors!": An action against the war was held in Russia. VIDEO + PHOTO report
    On April 18, St. Petersburg activists held a "Strategy-18" action in Vyborg in support of the Crimean Tatars and in protest against the pulling of Russian troops to the border with Ukraine.
    Censor.NET reports this with reference to Ukrinform.
    1. Gardener91
      Gardener91 April 19 2021 21: 37
      +8
      Quote: Seeker
      Petersburg activists

      Somehow a lot of activists ...)
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 20 2021 06: 56
        +2
        Quote: Gardener91
        Somehow a lot of activists ...)

        Yeah. A serious crowd was gathered.
    2. standan
      standan April 19 2021 22: 21
      +4
      Is this really Peter?
  12. Gardener91
    Gardener91 April 19 2021 21: 35
    +1
    However, "The Russians are coming!"
  13. JD1979
    JD1979 April 20 2021 16: 39
    +1
    In short, the next regrets that they will not allow to walk again in the east without a broken face and urging each other to "shit under the door" once they are not allowed to walk.
  14. Graduate student
    Graduate student April 23 2021 15: 17
    +2
    NATO has few opportunities with regard to Ukraine versus Russia

    There are none at all. NATO will not go into direct conflict with Russia. The stakes are too high
  15. Graduate student
    Graduate student April 23 2021 15: 20
    +4
    In the West, the movement of the RF Armed Forces on the western borders of the country is considered either "preparation for the invasion of Ukraine" or "the Kremlin's flexing its muscles before the likely negotiations with Biden."

    In the West, a coronavirus pandemic that they are unable to cope with. In general, migrants are constantly on strike. bully
  16. Graduate student
    Graduate student April 23 2021 15: 21
    +2
    Nobody in NATO believes Moscow's words about planned combat readiness check

    We don’t believe the NATO members, but we don’t distribute fakes. And it's time ...
  17. Graduate student
    Graduate student April 23 2021 15: 27
    +5
    German media urge EU officials to act, who "could help Ukraine with anti-Russian sanctions"

    If there were smart officials in the West, they would not allow the conflict in Ukraine.