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"According to Western standards": In Kiev announced the beginning of testing of the infantry version of the machine gun KT-12,7

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"According to Western standards": In Kiev announced the beginning of testing of the infantry version of the machine gun KT-12,7

The Mayak plant in Kiev, which developed and produces the Molot mortar, nicknamed the "destroyer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," announced the start of testing an infantry version of the KT-12,7 heavy machine gun. This was reported by the press service of the enterprise.


As previously reported, the new Ukrainian machine gun is a modernization of the famous Soviet heavy machine gun NSVT (NSV 12,7 "Utes"). According to the Mayak developers, the new machine gun was created according to the most modern Western standards. Moreover, in the development of the Ukrainians were helped by two weapons companies: from the USA - Bartlein Barrels Inc. and the UK - ARS Ballistics.

The most important thing that is emphasized in Kiev is that in terms of its characteristics, the KT-12,7 surpasses the "competitors" of Kazakhstan and Russian production, as well as Western counterparts. In general, they will not die from modesty in Ukraine. The only thing you need to warn potential buyers about is to be careful. The previous modernization of the Soviet mortar carried out in Ukraine, despite loud slogans about "the world's best weapon", led to very deplorable results.

Field trials of the machine gun are scheduled for the summer, based on their results, a decision will be made to put the weapon into service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

By the way, "Mayak" is also working on the Ukrainian version of the Soviet heavy machine gun KPV of 14,5 mm caliber. Also, probably, there will be no analogues.
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  1. andrewkor
    andrewkor April 19 2021 18: 29
    +3
    Apparently the cartridge will be NATO 12,7 × 99, and it is obviously weaker than the Soviet 12,7 × 108. So what is the advantage? Wet dreams again!
    1. NIKN
      NIKN April 19 2021 18: 50
      +2
      Quote: andrewkor
      So what is the advantage? Wet dreams again!

      The advantage is that
      Moreover, two arms companies helped the Ukrainians in the development: from the USA - Bartlein Barrels Inc. and the UK - ARS Ballistics.
      smile What is there to add then? :))
    2. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP April 19 2021 20: 17
      +4
      And who said that there will be a NATO patron? Not a word about it.
    3. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk April 19 2021 20: 17
      +3
      Quote: andrewkor
      Wet dreams again!

      It was already similar when the Svidomo modernized the Soviet PKM into KUM-7,62. yes
      What came of this when they tried to sell them to Turkey, you all know yourself! lol
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 20 2021 07: 39
        +1
        Quote: LIONnvrsk
        Quote: andrewkor
        Wet dreams again!

        It was already similar when the Svidomo modernized the Soviet PKM into KUM-7,62. yes
        What came of this when they tried to sell them to Turkey, you all know yourself! lol

        As they say in Odessa - "Swindlers! ...
    4. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 20 2021 01: 26
      +1
      Quote: andrewkor
      Apparently the cartridge will be NATO 12,7 × 99, and it is obviously weaker than the Soviet 12,7 × 108.

      Weaker? Is this so? I was able to read an article somehow, where it was argued that they were equivalent in power ... More powerful gunpowder was used in American cartridges ...
    5. Revolver
      Revolver April 20 2021 03: 39
      0
      Quote: andrewkor
      Apparently the cartridge will be NATO 12,7 × 99, and it is obviously weaker than the Soviet 12,7 × 108. So what is the advantage?
      How in what? In line with NATO standards! wassat
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 19 2021 18: 31
    +1
    In terms of the number of "self-shot" survivors, the new kulyamet will surpass the minicarriage or the minoshryailu "hammer"!
    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 19 2021 22: 03
      -1
      In terms of the number of "self-shot" survivors, the new kulamet will surpass the minicarriage or the minus-thrower "hammer"
      Hmm, it's sad ... that fellow Slavs and fellow Slavs lost their ground so stupidly, but before that it was:
      On the basis of government decree No. 667 / SGKO dated September 12, 1941, plant No. 183 and its branch, Motor Plant No. 75, were evacuated to the Urals. The evacuation of all departments of the plant (by type of production) began in the second half of September and ended in mid-October 1941, was carried out under the general leadership of Yu. E. Maksarev (in 1938-1942 - director of plant No. 183). During this time, 43 trains with equipment, people, materials and blanks were sent from Kharkov. The evacuation of the tank department of plant No. 183 and part of the locomotive department was carried out from Kharkov to Nizhny Tagil, to the site of the Uralvagonzavod. At the new site, the main Kharkov plant number 183 merged: Uralvagonzavod, evacuated enterprises - the Mariupol metallurgical plant named after Ilyich and the Moscow machine-tool plant named after Sergo Ordzhonikidze, under the general name Ural tank plant (UTZ) number 183. Motor plant number 75 was evacuated in Chelyabinsk, where on the basis of the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant (ChTZ), as part of the Kirov plant, the production of V-2 tank diesel engines was launched. The main part of the Locomotive Department of Plant No. 183 was evacuated to Krasnoyarsk, where, as part of the evacuated Bryansk Steam Locomotive Plant, the production of weapons was deployed, and since 1943 - the production of steam locomotives.
      On the basis of Uralvagonzavod, UTZ № 183 launched production of T-34 medium tanks in the shortest possible time. At this plant, the numbering of workshops and departments, adopted even before the war in Kharkov, was retained. The tank design bureau (leading on the T-34 tank), under the previous designation - "department 520", as in Kharkov, was headed by A. A. Morozov.
      Post-war period (1945-1991)
      In 1947, the plant organized the production of locomotives and diesel locomotives. It produced diesel locomotives TE1, TE2, TE3, TE4, TE5, TE6, TE7, TE10, 2TE10, TEP10, TE30, 2TE40.
      But the main product of the plant was military equipment: tanks, which he began to build since 1929. The name of the outstanding designer of the T-34 tank M.I.Koshkin is associated with the plant.
      In 1957, the Comintern KhPZ was named after V.A.Malyshev.
      In 1957-1965, the management of the national economy of the USSR was carried out according to the territorial principle - the councils of the national economy of the economic regions (economic councils). Under these conditions, the plant worked very efficiently.
      At the beginning of 1966, ministries of all levels were restored, the plant became part of the structure of the Ministry of Defense Industry of the USSR, this, to a much greater extent than before, determined the priority of defense products, and as a result, in 1969, led to the liquidation of diesel locomotive construction.
      In 1968, the production of diesel locomotives was finally curtailed, but the plant continued to produce diesel engines for diesel locomotives.
      In 1978 KhZTM became the parent enterprise of the Malyshev Plant Production Association; The maximum number of tanks (in the post-war period) was produced by the plant in 1991: eight hundred units, the vast majority of which are T-80UD. Most of the tanks were exported. This information was classified until the 2000s. After 1991, the plant never even came close to these indicators.
  3. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 19 2021 18: 36
    0
    And I apologize ... This is an anecdote and a minimum of five years ago ... About the abundance of cartridges 12 and 7 per one hundred and eight at the Armed Forces. Rivet two hundred more pieces, you will only shoot with an independent bunch
    1. Victor Tsenin
      Victor Tsenin April 19 2021 18: 47
      +1
      Just let them “shoot” at the GCI, otherwise it will not work to fight global warming.
  4. Alexander Betonkin
    Alexander Betonkin April 19 2021 18: 42
    +3
    in terms of its characteristics, KT-12,7 surpasses "competitors" of Kazakhstani and Russian production, as well as Western counterparts

    Listen to the Ukrainians - they all have the best. And "Oplot" and armored personnel carriers 4, not to mention the new boats under construction. But the best was the Azovets tank.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 19 2021 22: 11
      +3
      But the best was the Azovets tank.
      well, there are many unparalleled from the Ukrainian "genius" wink :
      1.
      2.
      3.
  5. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 19 2021 18: 45
    +1
    What kind of craving do Svidomo have to rivet shit out of candy and then chomp praising with pleasure ?! Do not go to the fortuneteller, he will wedge, "spit", etc. If it surpasses the original in anything, then, for sure, only in weight.
  6. Victor Tsenin
    Victor Tsenin April 19 2021 18: 45
    +2
    There will definitely not be analogs until the end of time. The question is - is such production a violation of the intellectual property of the developers of the CPV and NSV?
    1. minus
      minus April 19 2021 19: 04
      +6
      *** The period of validity of the exclusive right to an invention, utility model, industrial design (objects of patent law) and the patent certifying this right is calculated from the date of filing the initial application for the grant of a patent to the federal executive body for intellectual property and subject to the requirements established by the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, is:

      twenty years for inventions;
      ten years for utility models;
      five years - for industrial designs. ***
  7. minus
    minus April 19 2021 19: 00
    +3
    Many years ago there was a video with a Ukrainian kulemet))) The Ukrainian version of the PKM))) It had a lot of mate from VSUshnikov))) I can't find it now, unfortunately. It seems that it somehow appeared on this resource.
    PS found))))
  8. xorek
    xorek April 19 2021 19: 10
    0
    What are all the Svidomo bicycles inventing? What they had after the collapse of the USSR and what they are doing now is simply ridiculous and disgusting to read ..
    The Second Army was in Europe, after Russia, and the military-industrial complex, so even steeper than in Russia, everything was space, rocketry, shipbuilding, tank building, etc. Where is EVERYTHING?
  9. Alexander X
    Alexander X April 19 2021 19: 38
    +2
    Already been ...
    "Do you know how many machine guns we have? Seven! No, six ... One seizes, the other jumps like a madman, and the third bastard shoots his own. And I secretly traded the seventh from Pan Ataman for these pants" (Wedding in Malinovka )
  10. svp67
    svp67 April 19 2021 19: 51
    -2
    The machine gun received some modifications, for example, the barrel for it is produced by an American company, new alloys have been introduced for a longer service life.
    And as with the accuracy of this "kulemet", the NSV it was clearly lower than that of the DShK
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 19 2021 23: 05
      -1
      Where was it written?
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 20 2021 16: 03
        0
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Where was it written?

        In the manual for shooting. It is enough to look at the order of zeroing and alignment of the STP, and compare them.
        In DShK, when firing at ground targets, the dispersion diameter at a distance of 100 m was 200 mm.
        NSV under the same firing conditions - 220 mm.
        With an increase in the firing range, the dispersion increases accordingly.
  11. agoran
    agoran April 19 2021 20: 00
    0
    Tex.
    Sumerians without a Russian guiding and guiding (fuck in the ass), become dangerous as an uncontrollable torpedo for themselves and those around them.
    Well, for what the Sumerians will not undertake, all the shit turns out.
  12. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 April 19 2021 20: 11
    +1
    how is it there? the madness of the "mentally sweaty" compose the sagas of the skalds?
  13. poquello
    poquello April 19 2021 20: 16
    +1
    "is a modernization of the famous Soviet heavy machine gun NSVT (NSV 12,7" Utes ""
    although the last century, but there is something of doubt that the Ukrainians are able to comply with the technology, even though the USSR taught both Poles and Bulgarians to do it
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 19 2021 23: 04
      +1
      Browning .50 older than DShK ..... NSVT youth at all
  14. Basarev
    Basarev April 19 2021 20: 38
    -1
    Russia also needs a new 14,5 mm machine gun. And brand new cartridges for it.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 19 2021 23: 03
      +1
      Cartridges agree ..... why new? Where to put it?
      1. Basarev
        Basarev April 20 2021 00: 21
        -1
        Suffice it to say that Western light vehicles are no longer afraid of the 12,7 caliber. It becomes useless. But 14,5 can sometimes still penetrate, and it is also useful in machine-gun duels, allowing you to hit with an overlapping range. I do not exclude the creation of a 14,5 caliber sniper cartridge - and a rifle for it.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek April 20 2021 09: 04
          +1
          It is heavy ... and the technique was replaced with 30mm ...
          1. Basarev
            Basarev April 20 2021 10: 25
            0
            In the forehead, Western light equipment is not afraid of thirty, the shells are weak. There are two ways. Either really introduce a 57 mm gun, or improve the existing shells. New, more armor-piercing cartridges of 14,5 mm are also appropriate here, because conventional Western equipment is not afraid of any projection.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek April 20 2021 11: 11
              +2
              The same West follows the 35-50mm path. 14.5mm specific caliber. Moreover, the main carrier - an armored personnel carrier, changed the turret. KPVT is still put on Boats ..... but there the PF action is more important than the BB.
  15. Gato
    Gato April 19 2021 21: 06
    +6
    In general, they will not die from modesty in Ukraine

    Unlike the Mayak plant itself, which seems to be about to move the horses. For several years they have been trying to take it apart and sell it under the hammer for warehouses and offices. We wish them success in this difficult endeavor. lol
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 19 2021 23: 02
    +1
    Probably, the Americans make trunks. The trunks are bad there
    1. Revolver
      Revolver April 20 2021 03: 44
      +2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      The trunks are bad there

      The trunks are just fine. But without trunks, not very much.lol
  17. Freedim
    Freedim April 20 2021 00: 42
    0
    KT - is it a tank gun? laughing
  18. thekhohol
    thekhohol April 20 2021 01: 22
    0
    He weighs 25 kg without anything.
    But how? .. (c)
  19. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 April 20 2021 05: 44
    0
    Popandopulo: Here are three pieces, nothing, but the other three pieces, one bites, the second jumps like a madman, and the third, bastard, has bullets from his own And the seventh I secretly traded from Pan Ataman for these pants
  20. alexey2073
    alexey2073 April 20 2021 06: 18
    +2
    And are they not ashamed to use Soviet developments? What about the fight against everything Soviet? No, to please the owners to buy Western weapons, and licked, and have almost new weapons! laughing
    And how is this "novelty" really better than imported and Russian counterparts?