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"Boots" in uniform

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The "abscess" of bullying



On April 12, a fight broke out in St. Petersburg between three Caucasians and cadets of the military medical academy. Everything turned out to be a real tragedy, which revealed a psychological abscess, which for many years "bloomed" in lush bloom in Russian military universities.

And just something - one of the cadets touched a Caucasian with his bag. Insulted in the best feelings, the mountaineer and two of his friends rushed to the "offender". The entire column turned around to help their comrades, but the commander stopped them. The major began to pull apart the fighters himself.

But he turned out to be no hand-to-hand fighter and peacemaker. As a result, the Caucasians seriously injured the cadets (two are still in the hospital) and fled. And all the time of the carnage, the cadets, following the order of the would-be major, stood and watched what was happening.

The incident shocked the entire military. The problems, which largely left the army, remained, as it turned out, in the cadet community. And the civilians raised a lot of perplexed questions. Colonel of the reserve medical service, military doctor Alexander Naryzhny tells us about why this became possible.

Alexander Georgievich at one time graduated from the military medical academy, the cadets of which were at the center of events. Later, on duty, he supervised all military schools in the country for many years. And he was immersed in the atmosphere that reigns in these universities, rather densely.

- Alexander Georgievich, how do you explain this emergency?

- Everything is logical to the utmost. Little of. Sooner or later, this was bound to happen. For many years I have been ringing all the bells about this problem at all levels. I was brushed aside. Now the time has come to dismiss the legitimate question of the respected public: what kind of army is this when a trio of thugs, descending from the mountains, are sweeping a platoon of future officers of the Russian army into the lungs? And the company commander, Major, runs like a zapoloshny lapwing, clucks, flaps his wings and cannot do anything?

- This is the question we ask you ...

- You probably remember how at one time the Soviet, and then the Russian army suffered from bullying?

- Perfectly. From time to time it came to mass shootings and murders - as in the case of Shamsutdinov.

- And there were many such cases. The problem disappeared by itself only when the troops switched to a contract basis. But - which is typical - neither the Soviet nor the Russian army was able to solve the problem of army hazing.

- Why?

- This is a topic for a separate dissertation. But this is not what we are talking about now. Disappearing in the troops after the contract (and even then not everywhere, as shown история with Shamsutdinov), the army hazing in full and in the most perverted form was preserved in military universities and among the army officers. And its victims in military universities, first of all, are junior cadets.

The attitude of the officers-teachers towards them is the same bestial, as before in the army the grandfathers had towards the salags. Maybe there is no such bullying as it used to be in the army, but the desire to "put down the soplezhuyev" (as the officers-curators of the first-year students in our academy were called) were always burning with pain. In general, in all Russian military universities there is still an unspoken rule that a good officer can only come from a completely "lowered" cadet.

- Strange logic ...

- Not strange, but scary. Personally, I have never known or seen a more cruel and dangerous mass delusion in my life. And I still don’t find a logical explanation for it. Little of. None of the highbrow military men with generals and marshals' shoulder straps either in the troops or in Glavpur (Main Political Directorate of the Army and fleet) and could not give me a logical and intelligible substantiation of this concept. Therefore, I was forced to look for an explanation myself ...

"Soplejui" and "jackals-commandos"


- Found it?

- The first version. Such "bullying" artificially creates a stressful situation for future military officers, which can often really develop in a real battle. But, on the other hand, it is quite possible to do this without humiliating human dignity - exhausting crosses, combat and sports training, all kinds of trainings.

Have you seen how "vevshniki" pass the exam for the maroon beret? It would seem, what other shocks are needed? But this should be done for a long time, painstakingly and substantively. Plunging a person into stress is a whole science that requires certain (and sometimes considerable) resources from the command staff - at least physical and temporary. And this is too lazy to spray. It is much easier to yell at "soplezhuya" and lower it all day long, plunging it into a supposedly stressful situation. Like, the cadet will survive the hardening of humiliation and will be stronger than steel.

Only the “fathers-commanders” (or “jackals-commandos”, as we called them in the academy) are trying to achieve the opposite effect. Instead of steel, slag can turn out. Often, the cadets of many military universities from the efforts of such "commandos" finish their "alma mater" in a state of severe post-traumatic shock. And for some time they come to their senses already in the troops.

Over time, of course, some of the cadets will return to normal. And someone will forever be stuck in a state of "slag" - like those medical cadets in the square. These were the "slags" deeply lowered by the "fathers-commanders" and stood in St. Petersburg as if paralyzed, while the thugs who had descended from the mountains crippled their comrades.

The second version is self-affirmation at the expense of others. Imagine you are a major, a platoon leader of medical cadets. Your superiors are "flattening" you in the service. At home - the wife. On whom to break away, to take the soul away? Of course - on the dumb cadets. So they come off ... And all with the same result.

- Immodest question. And how did you yourself survive this stage of "steel and slag"?

- It was not easy. I started my way back in the army, as a nurse. And they took healthy, tall and athletic guys there. The implication was that the nurse must carry the wounded from the battlefield. And if the wounded person weighs more than one hundred kilograms? And if you have to carry two at the same time?

In addition, many nurses after our "training" went to serve in Afghanistan. And there, everyone's life can depend on the skill of the "pill" (as the fighters called us). So the soldiers were afraid to run into "pills" - even "grandfathers" and daring scouts. But at the academy, officer hazing began. I was terribly surprised by the animal hatred that the "fathers-commanders" felt towards us, freshmen.

One of them was simply poisonous lymph. Once he pissed me off so much that I asked: “Why so much anger, Comrade Major? Did I take your mother to be shot? ” I should have seen his face after that. He then harassed me all the years of study. And the distribution was misplaced by a special pull - to the Trans-Baikal Military District. The famous ZabVO, which the troops decipher "Forget to go back."

"Boot", "jackal" or "staff rat"


- How do you assess the behavior of the major?

- There are also three versions. First. It's just a stupid soldier. "Boot," as we called them at the academy. This is the type of people in uniform who are absolutely incapable of thinking on their own. Their brains are replaced by the charter. But dull adherence to the charter in an emergency situation can easily lead to tragedy. And even to death. It was on the charter that this “boot” was “blown up” that day. And he brought a bunch of people under the monastery.

Second version. Major - just a cowardly "body in uniform." In the army, these are called "skins" and "jackals". And this "skin" was guided at that dramatic moment by one consideration - no matter how something happened. How would this conflict not be reflected in his career. Do you think that two or three cadets will be stuffed in the face by the Caucasians? The main thing is that no one at the academy learns anything (although it is not clear how this was possible).

"Shkura" did not think about the officer's honor, which the Caucasian gopniks were driving into the asphalt before his eyes. She did not think about the psychological well-being of the cadets. She saved her well-being and her career. It was this "body" that was smeared like a jackal. The unfortunate major fed a legend to his superiors that in this case, in the eyes of passers-by, it would look like "a crowd of military personnel is beating up a handful of unfortunate young people."

Of course, this was an outright lie. But it worked! That gave rise to a lot of questions already to the leadership of our ill-fated academy. What, the same "skins" are sitting there ?! Or maybe he's just a staff rat. He spent all his life in the headquarters, and does not know life - neither civil nor army. And any emergency situation plunges him into a stupor.

In any case, this "rat", or "skin", or "boot" must be driven both from the academy and from the army. Or send to my beloved ZabVO - already the captain. To be honest, I thought that the university would have an officer's honor court. What is it ... The bosses of the academy stood up to the defense of the one whose efforts they themselves found themselves in thick shit to the very eyebrows. Until now, no one is going to defend the honor of the stained officer's uniform.

- With the major and the academy, everything is clear. And what to do with the rabid hazing in military universities?

- As Comrade Stalin said, any problem has a name, surname and patronymic. This data is also available from the army university bullying. This name is Glavpur. I talked with these comrades and it was on this occasion that I talked many times. There is zero sense. But now the roast cock has pecked right in the brain.

And so that the hemispheres have changed places. Let them think. Maybe a miracle will happen? And will they even remember all my proposals that I presented to them in due time? Although it will not be easy for them. The military are the most conservative people on earth. Changing their minds is no easier than changing the planet's climate. So, perhaps, over time, all this will simply be released on the brakes. Army bureaucrats can do it.

And then we all have to wait for the next incident with "soplezhuyami", "skins", "rats" and "boots".
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  1. Overlock
    Overlock April 21 2021 12: 07
    +84
    Was reading. I think that the major was simply scared for his shoulder straps, and he doesn't give a damn about the rest. The situation must be viewed from two positions - moral and legal. Moral major is not right, juridically right. How to proceed? Without shoulder straps, it is understandable, but the honor of the uniform is not allowed to stain. "Kulikovo Pole" in the center of St. Petersburg is not the best. I think that the thugs should have been taken by force and handed over to the police
    1. nnm
      nnm April 21 2021 12: 26
      +39
      1. In fairness, it is necessary to mention what the major said in his defense. And he said that he stopped the platoon for one reason - so that later, all the participants in the fight would not be expelled from the school.
      Is there logic in his words? In my opinion, yes, there is. For to guarantee that then someone would protect the cadets from the military prosecutor's office, and possibly the term, no one could.
      2. About the commanders in the school .....
      Oh, how we hated our company commander at that time ...
      And only over the years they realized how he saved us, fools of minors from the problems that we ourselves diligently created - the loss of weapons, drunkenness, fights with civilians, cadets of another school, getting involved in murky companies, starvation when handling weapons, etc. How he gradually created in us a feeling of brotherhood, self-confidence, the ability to overcome the most difficult problems together, how he crystallized in us a male, officer's character.
      And then ..... how we hated him fiercely and tried to shit on him wherever he could.
      The author of the article would just like to advise to command at least a company of our beloved workers 'and peasants' army for a couple of years, and then talk about the style of command. Yes, there are enough freaks with big stars on their epaulets, but they are a minority. In the army, these are isolated by the officers' collective itself. Because everything is in sight, everyone knows each other inside and out. How much time do officers spend with PM, and not with families, children ...
      3.
      - As Comrade Stalin said, any problem has a name, surname and patronymic.

      L. Kaganovich.
      1. Dmt
        Dmt April 21 2021 13: 33
        +9
        In fairness, find the news on some other resource. You will see how it is wrong and everything will fall into place. smile
        1. denplot
          denplot April 21 2021 13: 37
          +22
          I agree. By the way, the Caucasians have already been detained. They will answer according to the law.
          1. panzerfaust
            panzerfaust April 22 2021 22: 48
            +14
            They have probably already paid off and are going to the Caucasus, where they will be greeted as heroes.
            1. Israel
              Israel April 23 2021 09: 22
              +1
              This is a problem in corruption, everyone who has money is bought off.
            2. restless
              restless April 23 2021 11: 23
              +4
              This is unlikely, the big Shumka has gone, the trailblazers will be reinsured - they will not take it, otherwise it will smell fried for them ..
          2. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat April 25 2021 19: 56
            +1
            When they report that these monkeys were shot, then it will be possible to say that justice in Russia is beginning to be restored.
      2. Doctor
        Doctor April 21 2021 16: 00
        +8
        1. In fairness, it is necessary to mention what the major said in his defense. And he said that he stopped the platoon for one reason - so that later, all the participants in the fight would not be expelled from the school.
        Is there logic in his words? In my opinion, yes, there is. For to guarantee that then someone would protect the cadets from the military prosecutor's office, and possibly the term, no one could.
        2. About the commanders in the school .....
        Oh, how we hated our company commander at that time ...
        And only over the years they realized how he saved us, fools of minors from the problems that we ourselves diligently created - the loss of weapons, drunkenness, fights with civilians, cadets of another school, getting involved in murky companies, starvation when handling weapons, etc. How he gradually created in us a feeling of brotherhood, self-confidence, the ability to overcome the most difficult problems together, how he crystallized in us a male, officer's character.
        And then ..... how we hated him fiercely and tried to shit on him wherever he could.
        The author of the article would just like to advise to command at least a company of our beloved workers 'and peasants' army for a couple of years, and then talk about the style of command. Yes, there are enough freaks with big stars on their epaulets, but they are a minority. In the army, these are isolated by the officers' collective itself. Because everything is in sight, everyone knows each other inside and out. How much time do officers spend with PM, and not with families, children ...

        It's like that. Especially about the deductions. Apparently they served. drinks

        Regarding the atmosphere in VMedA, Mr. Nyrobsky thickens the colors a lot.
        There is no "officer hazing" there (already ridiculous), not to mention the "omission of soplezhuyev".
        Every second there is such a thug that they would rather omit the officer-curator (it is also unclear which "curators" he means laughing ).

        Yes, they collect money for the repair of the barracks, yes, they love gifts after vacations, yes, they can get it down morally (as a rule for the cause), there were also individual course officers who are not invited to anniversaries.
        But this is an exceptional case. No.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 April 21 2021 19: 26
          +8
          Quote: Arzt
          1. In fairness, it is necessary to mention what the major said in his defense. And he said that he stopped the platoon for one reason - so that later, all the participants in the fight would not be expelled from the school.
          Is there logic in his words? In my opinion, yes, there is. For to guarantee that then someone would protect the cadets from the military prosecutor's office, and possibly the term, no one could.
          2. About the commanders in the school .....
          Oh, how we hated our company commander at that time ...
          And only over the years they realized how he saved us, fools of minors from the problems that we ourselves diligently created - the loss of weapons, drunkenness, fights with civilians, cadets of another school, getting involved in murky companies, starvation when handling weapons, etc. How he gradually created in us a feeling of brotherhood, self-confidence, the ability to overcome the most difficult problems together, how he crystallized in us a male, officer's character.
          And then ..... how we hated him fiercely and tried to shit on him wherever he could.
          The author of the article would just like to advise to command at least a company of our beloved workers 'and peasants' army for a couple of years, and then talk about the style of command. Yes, there are enough freaks with big stars on their epaulets, but they are a minority. In the army, these are isolated by the officers' collective itself. Because everything is in sight, everyone knows each other inside and out. How much time do officers spend with PM, and not with families, children ...

          It's like that. Especially about the deductions. Apparently they served. drinks

          Regarding the atmosphere in VMedA, Mr. Nyrobsky thickens the colors a lot.
          There is no "officer hazing" there (already ridiculous), not to mention the "omission of soplezhuyev".
          Every second there is such a thug that they would rather omit the officer-curator (it is also unclear which "curators" he means laughing ).

          Yes, they collect money for the repair of the barracks, yes, they love gifts after vacations, yes, they can get it down morally (as a rule for the cause), there were also individual course officers who are not invited to anniversaries.
          But this is an exceptional case. No.

          Money to repair the barracks ?! Gifts after vacations ?! This is finally ...
          1. Doctor
            Doctor April 21 2021 20: 11
            -2
            Money to repair the barracks ?! Gifts after vacations ?! This is finally ...

            Ага. laughing some consider this to be corruption.
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 April 21 2021 20: 46
              +21
              And I do not consider it an army.
      3. Old tanker
        Old tanker April 21 2021 17: 33
        +43
        For the sake of fairness, it is necessary to mention what the major said in his defense. And he said that he stopped the platoon for one reason - so that later, all the participants in the fight would not be expelled from the school.
        Is there logic in his words? In my opinion, yes, there is.

        Dismiss the whole platoon? What a bliss!
        The mouth rat is a school, sculpts nonsense in his own defense. And the cadets ssykuny, for their shoulder straps (so as not to be expelled), they threw their own comrades under the distribution and calmly watched, "carrying out the order." Ugh!
        Shame on you!
        1. nnm
          nnm April 21 2021 17: 47
          +15
          I am not a supporter of reasoning without knowing the objective circumstances. There would be at least a video, it would be possible to judge what actually happened and how. And so we all judge only from hearsay.
          And how they are expelled, brought under the criminal law - your naivety touches you. It's just that those who have a weaker "roof" will fall under the distribution. And no one will protect them. No commentators (except on websites), no human rights activists, etc.
          But again, before hanging labels, you need to find out the real circumstances of what happened.
        2. not main
          not main April 22 2021 00: 42
          +12
          Quote: Old Tankman
          Dismiss the whole platoon? What a bliss

          I must say right away that I agree with everything else. So at the expense of the platoon, there was such an example specifically in the Saratov School of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (VV), 1982. (as far as I remember), but there was no deduction! Three got real sentences! BUT THE SITUATION IS OPPOSITE! THEY JUST APPLIED THEIR SKILLS AGAINST THE AGGRESSION! After being injured by their comrades. I say right away that I studied at the school opposite.
        3. Victorio
          Victorio April 22 2021 10: 08
          +2
          Quote: Old Tankman
          Dismiss the whole platoon? What a blissЬ!
          The mouth rat is a school, sculpts nonsense in his own defense. And the cadets are pissing, for their shoulder straps (so as not to be expelled), they threw their own comrades under the distribution and calmly watched, "carrying out the order." Ugh!
          Shame on you!

          ===
          well, you yourself answered
        4. Ilya22558
          Ilya22558 April 22 2021 11: 55
          -4
          Apparently you did not serve ...
          "The order of the commander (chief) must be carried out unquestioningly, exactly and on time. The soldier, having received the order, answers:" Yes "- and then fulfills it.
          If necessary, to verify the correct understanding of the order given to them, the commander (chief) may require a repeat thereof, and a soldier who has received an order may contact the commander (chief) with a request to repeat it.
          Having fulfilled the order, a soldier who disagrees with the order may appeal it "
          CHARTER OF THE INTERNAL SERVICE OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
          1. Intruder
            Intruder April 22 2021 13: 15
            +8
            Having fulfilled the order, a soldier who disagrees with the order may appeal it "
            CHARTER OF THE INTERNAL SERVICE OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

            Well, yes ... in the Charter of the INTERNAL SERVICE OF THE ARMED FORCES of the USSR:
            - when outside the location of the part
            behave with dignity and honor
            , keep out of order and unworthy actions in relation to the population.
            !? Although, if they physically stopped the violation of public order by the population in the form of those street gopas, they would have retained their honor and dignity ...!
        5. Xscorpion
          Xscorpion April 22 2021 12: 28
          +5
          Quote: Old Tanker
          For the sake of fairness, it is necessary to mention what the major said in his defense. And he said that he stopped the platoon for one reason - so that later, all the participants in the fight would not be expelled from the school.
          Is there logic in his words? In my opinion, yes, there is.

          Dismiss the whole platoon? What a bliss!
          The mouth rat is a school, sculpts nonsense in his own defense. And the cadets ssykuny, for their shoulder straps (so as not to be expelled), they threw their own comrades under the distribution and calmly watched, "carrying out the order." Ugh!
          Shame on you!

          The deduction is the softest that would be. If at least one Caucasian, for example, had a broken nose, then the entire platoon would have called in under Article 112 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, up to 5 years, by the way, punishment, and then aggravating military personnel beat three peaceful Caucasians in an organized group, and they would have been paid millions more. So the major saved them, not only himself. And the instigators have already been detained, and they themselves will go under this article. It is clear that everyone would like news that a military platoon beat three Caucasians, as it sounds. Well, if you want such news then go outside and make news to the country with your fists.
          1. Grognag
            Grognag April 22 2021 13: 11
            -3
            Totally agree
          2. Intruder
            Intruder April 22 2021 13: 18
            +4
            And so the instigators have already been detained, and they themselves will go under this article. It is clear that everyone would like news that a platoon of military three Caucasianshow does it sound
            Maybe then there is no need to advertise in this way, in the key: people from the Caucasus !? Just street inadequacies and gopniks violating public order on the streets of a large Russian city!
          3. krillon
            krillon April 22 2021 19: 48
            0
            Article 38 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Causing harm during the arrest of a person who committed a crime. Either the beating of a soldier is not a crime or the Criminal Code is below the Charter.
        6. kurs66
          kurs66 April 23 2021 19: 48
          +2
          They will not expel all, only the instigators, but tie up a platoon of 3 highlanders ... I don’t mind why they didn’t do it, they just tied it up and handed it over to the police
        7. your1970
          your1970 April 28 2021 00: 18
          0
          Quote: Old Tankman

          Dismiss the whole platoon? What a bliss!
          The mouth rat is a school, sculpts nonsense in his own defense. And the cadets are pissed, for their shoulder straps (so as not to be expelled) they threw their own comrades under the distribution and calmly watched, "carrying out the order"

          You forgot that you live in the era of Tiktok and tomorrow a video with cadets politely and tactfully hitting their muzzles will be on the internet ... With the headlines "30 people kicked three !!!!", "They wanted to beat them to death !!!"
          And according to the results, there would be a conversation not about expulsion, but about criminalizing cadets ...
      4. qQQQ
        qQQQ April 22 2021 08: 30
        +12
        Quote: nnm
        Is there logic in his words? In my opinion, yes, there is. For to guarantee that then someone would protect the cadets from the military prosecutor's office, and possibly the term, no one could.

        This, in my opinion, is the root of the problem not only with the military. The children of the mountains know that in any case they will be swept away, in extreme cases, they will be hidden and, in fact, they will not lose much, and we all know that they will definitely find us and to the fullest extent of the law, even if they are not particularly guilty.
      5. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 April 22 2021 14: 32
        +1
        Hazing and hazing of military personnel should not be confused. Well, the Caucasians would be beaten, there would be a new scandal. They are heroes only when there are more of them. Here you need to look deeper, so as not to dare to touch a man in uniform, like a policeman. Laws need appropriate and judges! My grandfather taught me military science during the day. But in the evening the thugs tried to teach life, but the grandfathers did not allow their young to be "chased".
      6. lelik613
        lelik613 April 23 2021 06: 21
        +5
        The major did not cope, let him answer. The cadets were injured - compensation for damage with money. Moral discrediting of the army - defamation with demotion to rank and file and disbat. Leaders - part-time service. Well, the conclusions from the very attempt to attack the military. Responsible, senior officers on duty and the obligation to use weapons in such cases.
      7. Kaman
        Kaman April 23 2021 15: 26
        -1
        As legendary SEAL sniper Chris Kylie said: "Believe me, in a fight you prefer a guy who shoots well over a guy who fights well."
        1. starley
          starley April 23 2021 23: 26
          +2
          what if there is nothing to shoot from? - Run to look for a fighter?
      8. Moore
        Moore April 24 2021 09: 50
        +2
        Is there logic in his words? In my opinion, yes, there is. For to guarantee that then someone would protect the cadets from the military prosecutor's office, and possibly the term, no one could.

        You can really expect anything from the military prosecutor's office now. It depends on what the main theme is hovering there: the fight against "abuse of office", whether against hazing, corruption or something else. Sometimes doubts gnaw whether this is our military prosecutor's office ...
        But I personally have no doubts that the major really got it. I do not believe that he thought about the fate of his subordinates - most likely this is a late version to give at least some nobility to his act. And about the health of the cadets there, on the spot, why did this figure not think?
        To him, Article 13 of the UVS of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in order to prevent threats to the life and health of the military, in fact, even allows the use of weapons. If it is impossible to do this in other ways (commanding the unit to detain three thugs for transfer to the police is not a way?).
        He's not the only one. Too much is now at stake for a modern officer with this kind of troubles and what can be lost along with epaulettes:
        - good money allowance with bonuses;
        -military mortgages with banking together, which, upon dismissal, will have to be paid xs from what;
        - military pension in the end, if not held out.
        What an officer's honor ... By the way, the "reformers" from the army managed to "reform" one hundred percent - they monetized it.
    2. Yngvar
      Yngvar April 21 2021 12: 31
      +15
      Here's something that tells me that there are too many lawyers, economists, financiers and other dirty tricks in the country ...
      The officer in this case was caught between two fires! If he was a cadet himself, he would have got into a fight, otherwise he is a legal entity bearing responsibility ...
      In the days of my youth (in the 80s), being a cadet of the Military School, every year (according to a long-term tradition, it seems that since 1978 the incident on the dance floor of the City Garden) there was a little "fun" - to the gates of the School on August 2 (Paratrooper Day ) those who had served urgently in the airborne mission came and started, as it were, softer, but more specifically ... in general, to bully. The deputy head of the School even put armored personnel carriers around the perimeter so that there were no collisions, but it didn't really help ... Teeth, jaws, bandages, bruises, lost berets, caps and belts everywhere "on the battlefield" ... But only on August 2! Not a single officer, not a single cadet suffered from the command (although they knew who and when) for this "entertainment", because everyone understood the essence and meaning of a truly military brotherhood! What is happening now? Triumph of Law or Tolerance?
      1. Anzhey V.
        Anzhey V. April 21 2021 12: 39
        .
        Here's something that tells me that there are too many lawyers, economists, financiers and other dirty tricks in the country ...


        Comrade, what's the problem? Go to some poor African country or to some cannibals on the islands - there you will not have any "dirty" people who work so that your wife is not raped in the nearest gateway, and your head is not broken for a cigarette.

        You will be there with the locals using fists, sticks, knives and stones to find out the truth of a real male brotherhood. True, they will kill you there quickly, but how brutal everything will be, wow!
        1. Yngvar
          Yngvar April 21 2021 12: 49
          +25
          The problem is that for some reason "some" have more rights than "others"! And "go to some poor African country or to the cannibals" is not for me! I live and want to live in my own country, and not in the one from which these "cannibals" came! And for some reason the law protects them, and not us ...
          1. Anzhey V.
            Anzhey V. April 21 2021 13: 03
            .
            And for some reason the law protects them, and not us ...


            So maybe this is a problem in the imperfection of the legal framework and domestic policy (which is very dubious), and not in the people of the professions you listed, who are really not allowed to work in the country?

            And "them" are protected for a rather simple reason - because of the fear of interethnic conflicts. And not such as individual fights, but repetitions of the new Chechnya, only on a much larger scale and in a number of regions of the country.

            The choice here is simple: either a large multinational Russian Federation, or a much smaller Russia with a legally fixed title nation.

            These are the pies. Which is better - I do not know and I will not judge.
            1. Revival
              Revival April 21 2021 13: 07
              +9
              You have a strange choice, some kind of stripped down
              1. Anzhey V.
                Anzhey V. April 21 2021 13: 11
                .
                Realistic. The demographic potential is too weak to pull the options you think of.

                I myself am impressed by such dreams, but alas, everything is not so simple.
            2. ship
              ship April 21 2021 16: 56
              +21
              Do not play Anzhey V., you know the right choice.
              This is a large multinational Russia with a legally fixed Russian titular nation.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 April 21 2021 19: 53
                +9
                Quote: brod
                Do not play Anzhey V., you know the right choice.
                This is a large multinational Russia with a legally fixed Russian titular nation.

                And who would dare to do this? Liberal (as he calls himself) Putin? "The son of a Russian lawyer" Zhirinovsky? laughing Pardon me, this will not happen in our lifetime.
                1. ship
                  ship April 21 2021 21: 19
                  +2
                  But, all the same, it may have to be done in our lifetime.
                  1. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 April 22 2021 16: 49
                    +2
                    Quote: brod
                    But, all the same, it may have to be done in our lifetime.

                    In the current state of affairs, this will never happen. But if the Russian Federation is still destroyed into appanages, then yes, inside the Moscow Ring Road, Russians can be defined as the titular nation.
                    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                      Kote Pan Kokhanka April 23 2021 05: 42
                      +3
                      Quote: Doliva63
                      In the current state of affairs, this will never happen. But if the Russian Federation is still destroyed into appanages, then yes, inside the Moscow Ring Road, Russians can be defined as the titular nation.

                      Well I do not know? Probably inside the Moscow Ring Road, just the Russian chances to advance to the titular nation, on the contrary, the chances are minimal.
                      1. Clear
                        Clear April 23 2021 13: 05
                        +2
                        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        In the current state of affairs, this will never happen. But if the Russian Federation is still destroyed into appanages, then yes, inside the Moscow Ring Road, Russians can be defined as the titular nation.

                        Well I do not know? Probably inside the Moscow Ring Road, just the Russian chances to advance to the titular nation, on the contrary, the chances are minimal.

                        Yes, the attendants of shops, cafes, Moscow taxi drivers ... this is ... simply unimaginable ... They speak Russian on their fingers ...
                      2. Doliva63
                        Doliva63 April 23 2021 18: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        In the current state of affairs, this will never happen. But if the Russian Federation is still destroyed into appanages, then yes, inside the Moscow Ring Road, Russians can be defined as the titular nation.

                        Well I do not know? Probably inside the Moscow Ring Road, just the Russian chances to advance to the titular nation, on the contrary, the chances are minimal.

                        For example, there will be the Russian principality of Muscovy - everyone will be Russians, even Uzbeks, even Moldovans, won't they? laughing
              2. your1970
                your1970 April 28 2021 00: 29
                0
                Quote: brod
                This is a large multinational Russia with a legally fixed Russian titular nation.

                And what will it give to the titular nation besides a line in the Constitution? And if this gives something, then it will be a violation of the equality of citizens ...
                And it's not even about power ...
                1. ship
                  ship April 28 2021 22: 21
                  0
                  Yes, "and it's not even about the authorities," but about the fact that "there is an elder in the garden, and there is a man in Kiev."
            3. Victor Tsenin
              Victor Tsenin April 26 2021 23: 07
              0
              > And "them" are protected for a fairly simple reason - because of the fear of interethnic conflicts.

              But conflicts flare up because of the non-resistance to evil by violence. There are quite a few examples of the times of the end of the Union. Those. such a fear only aggravates the disastrous result.
      2. vic02
        vic02 April 22 2021 09: 45
        +8
        What is happening now? Triumph of Law or Tolerance?
        Our laws are written in such a way that they do not actually work. National communities and related groups (in fact, mafia families) act insolently, relying on the flourishing government corruption and our own money, which is pumped by the state to the Caucasus and is being successfully stolen there. This is the result of the current official national policy.
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins April 21 2021 13: 22
      +21
      Strange topics are raised in the article. For me - a cadet 1991-1993 unstable in my head.
      What kind of bullying in the USSR military school are we talking about? Yes, we lived according to the charter for five years! Each "pillar" was a trump card! The senior students gave us sugar and butter if there was any left in their companies! They went to some officers, like to fathers, relatives for advice! And here it’s been written ...
      And the major is wrong! The entire platoon would not have been expelled. And what is it like to look into the eyes of the beaten boys now? What to tell their mothers?
      1. Dmt
        Dmt April 21 2021 13: 42
        +3
        The author "pulled an owl over the globe." Read in other sources and everything will fall into place. hi
        1. Bshkaus
          Bshkaus April 22 2021 14: 14
          +3
          The author "pulled an owl over the globe." Read in other sources and everything will fall into place.

          yes, here I am about the same, and here hazing, if the Caucasians were civilians, when the officer walking in front of the column saw the fight, he gave the order not to enter the fight and ran to separate it himself. The cadets complied with the order, and three Caucasians continued to beat them.
          The officer explained his order by the fact that passers-by would have filmed everything on smartphones and then on the Internet there would have been even more Mr. that the military beat civilians out of the blue.
          1. Devil13
            Devil13 April 23 2021 08: 13
            +4
            Have you read the charter?
            A cadet going somewhere in the service is in the service.
            And he is obliged to defend himself, his dignity, and the honor of his uniform.

            It is not so important how the major is right, or the cadets in general and logically.
            What we have is important - the cadets were trimmed by a bunch of "highlanders", they stood and watched, but the officer could not do anything. For health reasons, or for orders.
            I would give a command - "Kozlov's urine", then they already dealt with them as winners.
            And then they pissed away the honor of the uniform, and comrades, and the battle.
            1. Bshkaus
              Bshkaus April 23 2021 09: 13
              -1
              Have you read the charter?

              Yes, I read: orders are not discussed!
              1. Devil13
                Devil13 April 23 2021 13: 51
                +3
                You can not "hear" them)
      2. Mishka78
        Mishka78 April 21 2021 14: 39
        +9
        Plus. I studied 1992-95 at the SVU. At 95-2000 at the Higher Educational Institution.
        The only thing in which "hazing" was manifested is that the 1st year cadets from 4-5 years old took the outfit in 5 minutes) But on the contrary - they could hand over the outfit until the evening verification.
        But from the 2nd year such problems did not arise.
        The officers were different. Only a few were bastards, 95% were excellent men, with whom it was quite possible to have a heart-to-heart talk, and in the senior years and in a cafe to sit with a beer.

        Major, unfortunately. Most likely, he was lucky to answer to his superiors for a mass brawl.
      3. Hypertension
        Hypertension April 21 2021 15: 56
        +28
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Strange topics are raised in the article.

        The author diligently diverts attention from the main reason for this situation. Caucasians get away with much in terms of crime. As if this is a purposeful state policy ...
        1. Dmt
          Dmt April 21 2021 16: 01
          +8
          The author misinterpreted the information and connected it with the mythical "bullying" in universities. And now minus those who write that this is nonsense. hi
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ April 21 2021 18: 50
          +13
          Caucasians get away with much in terms of crime. As if this is a purposeful state policy ...

          And only once in Kondopoga did it come to a popular revolt against them. It looks like this is going.
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension April 21 2021 19: 32
            +13
            Quote: Aviator_
            And only once in Kondopoga did it come to a popular revolt against them. It looks like this is going.

            Nothing goes anywhere. Everyone is already accustomed to such excesses. There are videos on YouTube, where Caucasians even swear at policemen, and they stand like rams with bulging eyes and cannot do anything. And it is Caucasians who behave this way while they are still a minority. What will happen next - and it's scary to think.
            1. Andrey Shiryaev
              Andrey Shiryaev April 23 2021 10: 01
              +1
              Inflate kicks, you don't look like that, you don't sit like that, and the jacket is stupid sad
        3. Victorio
          Victorio April 22 2021 10: 14
          -1
          Quote: Hyperion
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Strange topics are raised in the article.

          The author diligently diverts attention from the main reason for this situation. Caucasians get away with a lot in terms of crime. As if this is a purposeful state policy ...

          ===
          know how and are ready to stand up for themselves / for their own
      4. Doliva63
        Doliva63 April 21 2021 20: 34
        +6
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Strange topics are raised in the article. For me - a cadet 1991-1993 unstable in my head.
        What kind of bullying in the USSR military school are we talking about? Yes, we lived according to the charter for five years! Each "pillar" was a trump card! The senior students gave us sugar and butter if there was any left in their companies! They went to some officers, like to fathers, relatives for advice! And here it’s been written ...
        And the major is wrong! The entire platoon would not have been expelled. And what is it like to look into the eyes of the beaten boys now? What to tell their mothers?

        I don’t ask which school, but mine has sugar, butter ... no one would take it. And fights with senior students did happen, albeit rarely. If they were "brought in" in our opinion. Yes, we also lived according to the Charter, but no one canceled human relations. Somehow guys from the Novosibirsk political center came to us in the winter - there was no weather, they could not fly to the school. The dezh. Commandant at the airport called our "opera", he agreed to take over the night. They settled with us, naturally, in the 1st company. They were in ... how shall I put it. Perplexed, or something. We met at the checkpoint, settled in, offered to go to the bathhouse - well, after a couple of days at the airport it’s essential, though not a bath day. After the lights out, they did not even move, although we were there all night on the central control room - some to the toilet, some to smoke, they have a deaf silence. Morning. They were shocked that we have half a company at 6 to get up in order to work out according to their plan before the rise of Physo. At 7 in the morning the foreman raises the company, and tells them - you guys are visiting, sleep until breakfast! And they already wanted to become operational). And they had fruit for breakfast! When they left for the airport, they said like: your school is unusual, incredible! And we to them are just us, 1st company, like that. In the rest, the same madhouse as yours. Eh, damn it, cadet years. And yes, for the release of our company, our Dad (company commander) received ZBZ. Thank you very much! An excellent officer and teacher. Something I'm under 100 grams. said ... not an article, I hope laughing drinks
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins April 21 2021 20: 40
          +2
          KVTIU Kiev tank. He's gone already, they disbanded about fifteen years ago. There were concessions only for the fifth year - well, practically, comrade officers ... Although there were cases that fifth-year students were also expelled for discipline. If specific flights. It was strict, but, on the other hand, it was interesting and honest, or something ...
      5. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka April 23 2021 06: 17
        +4
        I agree. Himself a student of the EHSS of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia 1995-1999. The university is located in a forest zone, one of the disadvantaged areas of Yekaterinburg - elmash. According to my inner conviction, the crime situation of those years is worse than even the notorious Uralmash. And ...? To touch a local, not a local cadet - it was "death"! Neither senior, nor junior, nor officers would have let anything like that! I even shuddered when I put myself in the place of the St. Petersburg cadet. For their commanders and odnokorytnikov, yes they would have annoyed anyone without an order and in spite of an order! God will not give, the pig will not eat ...
        "Ours are beaten" and half a thousand of the barracks walk through the holes in the fence into the night. Seniors, juniors, excellent students and poor students, role models and outright idiots, but not a single one who remained in the "hostel", except for girls. The scumbags were not even beaten. The locals know about those events. I will smile with only one case once: “Azerbaijanis who pestered my classmate tried to“ escape ”on a trolleybus. So three "high school students" passing by kept the "horned" under siege for half an hour, removing the "horns" on the move. At the same time, they helped all the grandmothers get out, joke with the driver and pinch four Caucasians five or six older than themselves.
        Worse were probably only "Evakovtsy" Yekaterinburg Higher Military Artillery Command School. But they lived at the other end of the "ecumene." Only the messengers crossed with them (those whose duties were to notify the teaching staff on the alarm). And then there were no problems, and it could not have been. We all wore epaulettes. Well, except that sometimes their patrols tried to hook ours on leave. This happiness especially concerned the thinnest and thinnest. However, we were the last course that went in greatcoats, after 1997 our brother could not be confused.
      6. KVIRTU
        KVIRTU April 24 2021 21: 39
        +1
        I studied in those same years, I can confirm all your words. It’s about doctors, they have their own profile, you should not demand special fighting qualities, they don’t need it. It all started with a bag ... In the ranks of 1st year cadets, with a little ...
    4. Vend
      Vend April 21 2021 13: 31
      +12
      Quote: Overlock
      Was reading. I think that the major was simply scared for his shoulder straps, and he doesn't give a damn about the rest. The situation must be viewed from two positions - moral and legal. Moral major is not right, juridically right. How to proceed? Without shoulder straps, it is understandable, but the honor of the uniform is not allowed to stain. "Kulikovo Pole" in the center of St. Petersburg is not the best. I think that the thugs should have been taken by force and handed over to the police

      I think the Major is just having a hard time mentally. If the column turned around, there would be no fight. Caucasians themselves would hasten to settle the matter peacefully.
    5. Old tanker
      Old tanker April 21 2021 17: 28
      +20
      When I was in college, these Caucasians would have been simply trampled into the asphalt by the whole platoon. And no orders from the major would have stopped. I remember how whole companies and battalions rushed into the city at the call of "ours are beaten" and rushed to where it happened. It happened that the OMON was also called. And then a month without layoffs, daily lectures and drill reviews. But the cadet brotherhood is above all!
      How far has our army now reached with the victims of the Unified State Exam in cadets and officers' shoulder straps.
    6. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter April 21 2021 17: 56
      -1
      Quote: Overlock
      Was reading. I think that the major was simply scared for his shoulder straps, and he doesn't give a damn about the rest.

      Colleague! First of all, everyone needs to understand what the word "OFFICER" means and what "officer's honor" is!
      There is a legend. that to the stealing / screwing officer / (official, etc.) in the officer rank, the orderly brought a tray with a glass of cognac and a napkin, under which lay a revolver with one cartridge., after the shot in the office, everyone stated the "sudden" death and the saved honor of the officer / official.
    7. Normal ok
      Normal ok April 21 2021 20: 33
      +7
      If you remember, in Soviet times there was a quota for admission to military universities of national personnel. Usually, after the first session, they were dismissed with a bang (personally seen)). BUT, there were a lot of problems with them even then.
    8. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 22 2021 10: 15
      +2
      Quote: Overlock
      I think that the thugs should have been taken by force and handed over to the police

      No need to think, everything was invented long ago. If a person in uniform who was in the civil service had a status (at least - immunity), then these three would simply pass by.
      I'm just wondering if a platoon of paratroopers were in place of the medical cadets, would the incident take place? This audience always knows where you can and where you can't. And then they scream in unison about mom, who was insulted and about other rules for "horsemen".
      By the way, military medicine, as a rule, has special training, which for them (and those whom they will save) is more important than honed skills and techniques of hand-to-hand combat.
    9. BecmepH
      BecmepH April 22 2021 11: 11
      0
      Quote: Overlock
      Moral major is not right, juridically right. How to proceed?

      Twist the flippers and "neatly, deliver to the cops
    10. flicker
      flicker April 23 2021 10: 14
      0
      Moral major is not right, juridically right. How to proceed?
      The major did the right thing ... but the cadets had to protect their comrades.
  2. paul3390
    paul3390 April 21 2021 12: 11
    +51
    Because the major apparently knew perfectly well that if you start to sweep the other Putin's untouchables, you will get the problems over the roof. Here human rights activists will flock to you, and relatives of all the aul will catch up, and press will come rushing in to tell you about the horrors of Great Russian chauvinism. And the major will get the most tomatoes.

    Again, a Caucasian cuts one of the cadets, and then dumps home to the mountains, from where, as you know, there is no issue. Who will be responsible? Major, the stump is clear ..

    We are all making fun of kneeling before the negroes in America, but for ourselves, what is so much better in the country? All these same Russians and expensive guest workers behave in our cities as in a conquered country, and the authorities, in most cases, either side with them or remain silent ..
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS April 21 2021 12: 14
      +47
      Yes, it's just that Article 282 is always applied for the Slavs in such cases, and the proud shepherds TVаThey say what they want with impunity.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 April 21 2021 12: 16
        +16
        Obviously, this is a completely purposeful policy for such an application of this anti-Russian article.
      2. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi April 21 2021 14: 05
        +16
        Quote: WHAT IS
        Yes, just 282 article

        So it's not for nothing that they called her a Russian article.
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      5. Israel
        Israel April 24 2021 12: 36
        0
        Yes, it's just that Article 282 is always applied for the Slavs in such cases, and the proud shepherds do what they want with impunity.

        I heard that in every republic, about 282 they say only the same article only for the Buryats, only for the Ingush, etc.
    2. Roman070280
      Roman070280 April 21 2021 12: 20
      +7
      The major apparently knew very well - if you start sweeping Putin's nonesh untouchables, you will get rid of the problems above the roof.

      Yes, there is generally no one knows who you will run into ..
    3. Unknown
      Unknown April 21 2021 17: 59
      +10
      Quote: paul3390
      Because the major apparently knew perfectly well that if you start to sweep the other Putin's untouchables, you will get the problems over the roof. Here human rights activists will flock to you, and relatives of all the aul will catch up, and press will come rushing in to tell you about the horrors of Great Russian chauvinism. And the major will get the most tomatoes.

      All this is of course true. But it feels like they spat in the soul. The question is, how long will these things continue? First, the boys, who were weaker pressed around the cities, behave as in a captured country. And in the end, they were cut off to the point of impossibility, they attacked a platoon of soldiers !? What's going on, then !? Yes, the major has no excuse, no one. Command the platoon, and sweep the khachiks, until blue in the face. They will run, be sure to catch up! There is no excuse for this. And now, if they had taught the presumptuous ones, they would no longer be bullied. Would swear. And the consequences, do not care about them, the showdown will be all the same, and so they would put it in place. How will he look the cadets in the eyes? What example did he set? Don't make decisions? Is this an officer? Do you know what will happen next? They will think that they can do anything, beat even the servicemen, in such a way they will get to the cops. Have sunk. If for all their jambs received a tough response, this would not have happened. They only understand strength, so it was and will be.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 April 21 2021 18: 57
        +5
        Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 317. Encroachment on the life of a law enforcement officer

        An encroachment on the life of a law enforcement officer, a military serviceman, as well as their relatives, in order to impede the legitimate activities of these persons in protecting public order and ensuring public safety, or out of revenge for such activity -
        the applicable sentence is deprivation of liberty for a term of from twelve to twenty years, with restriction of liberty for a term of up to two years, or life imprisonment, or the death penalty.


        Were the cadets and the major in uniform? Were you on duty at the time? This means that it falls under the article, because they provided the military component of public security.
        1. Unknown
          Unknown April 21 2021 19: 27
          +3
          Quote: paul3390
          Were the cadets and the major in uniform? Were you on duty at the time? This means that it falls under the article, because they provided the military component of public security.

          Correctly noticed. To the pile, it was necessary to mark as having resisted. It is a pity that the officers do not carry their service weapons with them on a daily basis; I would take out a knife and whimper right there, so that it wouldn’t happen.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich April 22 2021 10: 26
            +2
            I suppose that the Caucasians, seeing the "botanists" from the medical academy, immediately realized and behaved insolently. If cadets of the Ryazan VOKU were in the place of the medical cadets, the Caucasians would calmly spank further, out of sin ..
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok April 21 2021 23: 05
          +5
          Put a plus. But, it all depends on whether the major and his commanders personally have eggs. and as in the district "the policy of the party"
    4. lucul
      lucul April 21 2021 18: 56
      +16
      All these same Russians and expensive guest workers behave in our cities as in a conquered country, and the authorities, in most cases, either side with them or remain silent ..

      And with this moment in our country, in Belarus, the local population is often frightened - they say we will join Russia and the highlanders will begin to mess with it.
      At the moment, all the inhabitants of the Caucasus in Minsk (Belarus) behave quieter than water, lower than grass, because they know about the irreversibility of punishment - Lukashenka wanted to spit on all the "authorities", he will put him in prison quickly and for a long time.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 April 21 2021 18: 58
        +6
        This is one of the aspects for which I personally - Father still respect. Whatever they say about him.
      2. grindz
        grindz April 26 2021 15: 42
        0
        Well, nothing, join Europe, all sorts of blacks and Albanians will come in large numbers to you, that will be good, calm.
    5. Kamarada
      Kamarada April 22 2021 15: 07
      +2
      Well said, to the point
  3. Ravik
    Ravik April 21 2021 12: 15
    +3
    Quote: Overlock
    I think that the thugs should have been taken by force and handed over to the police
    - no signs of health ...
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok April 21 2021 23: 08
      +3
      Quote: Ravik
      Quote: Overlock
      I think that the thugs should have been taken by force and handed over to the police
      - no signs of health ...

      Sorry, I didn't find anything newer on the topic of how to deal with freaks: https: //korrespondent.net/city/kiev/4346859-v-kyeve-prokhozhye-zaderzhaly-nasylnyka-napavsheho-na-nesovershennoletnuiui
      In Kiev, in the Forest, a man in the yard raped a 17-year-old girl, he was detained by passers-by. This was reported in the telegram channel dtp.kiev.
      According to preliminary information, on Bratislavskaya, 18B, an unknown person caught and raped a minor girl in the yard behind the boiler for an hour and a half.
      "He was detained by local residents. During his arrest, he fell several times and hit his head on the curb," the message says))
  4. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 April 21 2021 12: 17
    .
    Complete nonsense. None of the participants in the dialogue understands what hazing is, why it is needed, the troops NEEDED like air and bread. Of course, if the officers and soldiers understand what two fools who talk nonsense to each other are not able to understand. Due to the fact that the understanding of bullying in the army has been lost, the army is becoming less and less efficient. It seems that we only have special troops left, but they have a short period of time. And all this against the background of such "experts" who do not understand the situation at all. Or maybe they understand, but they are well "warmed up" in order to carry their nonsense. Our army is decaying so quickly that in a matter of years, as a fighting force, it will simply cease to exist. I hoped to die before the onset of this unbearable shame, but apparently I will have to observe it with my own eyes. Yearning...
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok April 21 2021 23: 11
      +2
      You are confusing bullying with fellow countrymen.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 April 22 2021 09: 31
        +1
        You have a patch on your avatar. Are you an officer? And also do not know? Our army is finished ...
        I know it is useless to explain. But we must fulfill our duty. What an army is, you do not understand. As the characters of the article do not understand. As those who need "fellowship" and other shit do not understand.
        In general, the army is an instrument of VICTORY. First of all, the army is intended to destroy the enemy's resistance with an armed hand and force him to peace. Destroy. Force. How to do it? It is necessary to overcome, to overcome the will of the enemy to resist. This happens when you continue to fight, attack, and the enemy has already lost the will to do so.
        What is needed for this? Weapon? Technics? Any kind of "contactless" fighting? It will come in handy. But most importantly, you need a SOLDIER.
        And who is this? This is the person who continues to fight. Holds on. Goes forward. Overcomes fear, pain, inconvenience and open pressure of the opponent on himself. Do you understand? Do you have the ability to understand this? Here you need a special structure of thinking. Russian. It has already become small, and it is becoming less and less.
        A child comes to the army. A big, strong, hefty child. With childhood in the shower. He is not a soldier, and it is pointless to send him into battle. He will die there, or worse, run away, exposing the backs of his comrades. What to do with him? You need to PRESS on it. It is necessary to crimp it, press it, put it in uncomfortable conditions, intolerable to its gentle nature. Did the grandfathers knock on the face of the poor thing? So, in war, they'll put a bullet in his chest! Bayonet in the stomach! He is a soldier, not a fragile flower!
        To become a soldier, a defender of the Motherland, a person needs to develop. Overcome your fears and weaknesses. Stop breaking under pressure, and withstand it, while maintaining a psycho-connection. While maintaining yourself, continue and grow your resistance to external pressure. Shooting around. And you need to get up and go on the attack. How to do this if you don’t have habits, skills, strength to resist fear and pain? What kind of game and nonsense do I read and see?
        Traditions of "bullying" in the Russian army have existed since time immemorial. Only those who teach have given in under pressure. Teaches officers. And now they no longer know what to do, and have ceased to understand what an army is. Of course, following the stupefaction of the officers, the old-timers also went crazy, turning the hazing badly needed by the army into a sadistic exercise. This is natural - after all, no one guided them. So the army became a kind of branch of the zone.
        Then they began to fight hazing totally, and she retreated. And after her, the army began to disappear. We almost don't have it, and soon it won't be at all. No technology and science can replace the soldier. And we don't make them anymore. Have forgotten how ...
        1. restless
          restless April 23 2021 11: 57
          +2
          Complete nonsense, he served at the border, ten grandfathers for ten young, lived like brothers, no one crushed anyone, or it wouldn't take long to catch a bullet in the back, and my brother took Tskhinval with a double bass and also without hazing, grandfathers are there where there is lawlessness and there is a lot of free time and the officers of the ram ..
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 April 24 2021 09: 18
            0
            Truth? There are people who have been brought up correctly since childhood, or simply gifted. There are few of them, and they are rapidly disappearing. This is how life works today. All the best human qualities need to be brought up in an omnivorous predator animal. Otherwise, he will be funny, smiling, positive ... shit. Mostly pleasant to talk to, until they took the ass.
            Come on, Sergei, honestly, purely for yourself, weigh your comrades in the service. Which of them will not break under mortar fire? Who can live and fight for months under fire? Well, etc. Lived like brothers? Wonderful! It's good that no one pressed you, dear brothers, to the wall. Otherwise, it would have flowed out of you, brothers, from all the holes ...
            1. restless
              restless 14 May 2021 22: 09
              0
              None of us would break down, because there is nowhere to retreat, and you would not judge people by yourself, you can see you passed the army at the institute ...
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. April 21 2021 12: 18
    +16
    I agree with the author ... a major who allowed the unpunished beating of the cadets entrusted to him should be removed from command of the people ... such mediocrity has no right to be a commander ... a disgrace for our army. Is it interesting that a criminal case was initiated into the beating of cadets?
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 April 21 2021 12: 20
      -5
      This would be a violation of the law. We have a rule of law here, right? And what law did the major break? Hehe ...
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. April 21 2021 12: 33
        +17
        How what?
        There was an attack on a military unit ... the commander did not give the order to repel the attack with all available means, did not give the order to detain the attackers ... to be honest, I despise such commanders who are afraid to take responsibility.
        Why do we need such an army ... not able to stand up for themselves, they are afraid of everything ... bandits, prosecutors, bosses, wives ... ugh ... disgrace.
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe April 23 2021 05: 13
          +2
          the commander did not give the order to repel the attack with all available means, did not give the order to detain the attackers ... to be honest, I despise such commanders who are afraid to take responsibility.

          Caucasians will complain to relatives, and the commander will be sent on stage

          Ps / article - comparing warm with soft. Substitution of concepts. An attempt to divert the discussion from the Caucasian issue to chatter about hazing
  6. Roman070280
    Roman070280 April 21 2021 12: 18
    +21
    Insulted in the best feelings, the mountaineer and two of his friends rushed to the "offender". The entire column turned around to help their comrades, but the commander stopped them.
    But there was such a great opportunity once and for all to correct the brains of this beast ..

    As a result, the Caucasians seriously injured the cadets (two are still in the hospital) and fled.

    Or maybe they even left ..

    But the result is simply enchanting ..
    I can imagine how they proudly remembered over beer in the evening and pissed over us ..
    1. sniperino
      sniperino April 21 2021 18: 09
      -9
      Quote: Roman070280
      I can imagine how they proudly remembered over beer in the evening and pissed over us ..
      Masochist or gloating? We took them. Difficult case. They do not indulge in beer, so they often win in the ring. And it is not known what the victims would have been in the event of a mass brawl, but it is known who would be responsible for all this. Early here rushed to the commander to scoff.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 April 22 2021 11: 38
        +3
        Quote: sniperino
        They do not indulge in beer, so they often win in the ring.

        Especially they are helped in this by the nonsense, which they smoke almost without exception, and many sniff and inject. We found adherents of a healthy lifestyle, a tree ...
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 April 21 2021 12: 19
    +4
    What kind of assessment to give? Legal or pressure on emotions?
    For the colonel who gave the interview .... offended at everyone and everything. There is no other way to evaluate this.
    1. bk316
      bk316 April 21 2021 12: 50
      +4
      offended at all and all people.

      So yes, but he was offended at the school ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 21 2021 13: 08
        +5
        So many, here, through different "millstones" have passed !!! and reminders that they are quite real! And what, to be offended now by the whole world ???
        It happened in different ways ... I remember one thing well, that I would remain a HUMAN, one must always be him!
        1. bk316
          bk316 April 21 2021 13: 12
          +2
          passed through different "millstones" !!!

          Well, yes, and the colonel broke down ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 21 2021 13: 41
            0
            I don’t know ... the medics are not going to melee or hitting tanks, they are getting ready.
            Yes, discipline, order in the troops, that's understandable, but ... I don't know. It is not correct to write this way.
          2. Aag
            Aag April 21 2021 16: 59
            +1
            Quote: bk316
            passed through different "millstones" !!!

            Well, yes, and the colonel broke down ...

            It's bad that he was "broken" in the school (?!) to the rank of colonel !!!
            1. bk316
              bk316 April 21 2021 17: 05
              +2
              Disgusting ....
            2. Alarmist79
              Alarmist79 April 21 2021 22: 45
              +1
              The correct real colonel is silent about any trash in the army, as a partisan, did I understand everything correctly? Until dozens of corpses are taken from the regiment? Mde ... No. Directly living illustration to the words of the colonel in the comments.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 22 2021 07: 41
                +4
                Quote: Alarmist79
                The correct real colonel is silent

                This does not happen with a proper, real colonel, because he didn’t groan, gasped, at one time, but DOES WORK, he organized the service correctly ... in short, he was just an offended chatterbox.
                1. Alarmist79
                  Alarmist79 April 22 2021 10: 51
                  +1
                  = This does not happen with a correct, real colonel, because he did not groan, gasped, at one time, but DOES WORK, he organized the service correctly =

                  Where, in someone else's unit / school - and at the same time covering the non-statutory person known to him? Is it okay that you advocate complicity in crime? With the concept of a zone, it is necessary to raise the national economy by logging, and not serve in the army. And all the ways are open, welcome to sew panties and communicate only with worthy unwanted people.

                  = in short, just an offended chatterbox. =
                  In short, judging by you, the colonel is right.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 22 2021 11: 20
                    +3
                    Quote: Alarmist79
                    Where, in someone else's unit / school - and at the same time covering the non-statutory person known to him

                    Are you naive or ..... or, in short.
                    In the army, for any normal officer, especially the senior command staff, there is no ALIEN!
                    Trying to hide something, commit illegal offenses / crimes, this is the same disease of the WHOLE SOCIETY! They are everywhere. It depends only on the responsible persons, what kind of assessment of events, the consequences will come.
                    Those. any crime has a guilty person, exactly the known name!
                    1. Alarmist79
                      Alarmist79 April 22 2021 11: 43
                      +1
                      1. Then what kind of "resentment" are we talking about?
                      2. Why then was a furniture maker needed in order to partially correct the brains of the fathers-commanders? Moreover, all the "masculinity" that poured on subordinates urgently disappeared somewhere at the sight of a woman's battalion.
                      2. The specific Ndravs in the Soviet / Russian army are no secret to anyone. Have spawned small sadists with impunity and "endure" richly, when such a cuckoo rides easily and naturally.
                      Those who like "not to wash dirty linen in public" within a radius of a kilometer from government agencies are not tolerated, and in the army they are elementary dangerous.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 22 2021 11: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: Alarmist79
                        Specific Ndravs in the Soviet / Russian Army

                        What kind? When? Why?
                        By the way, what kind of armies do exist in general, and why?
                        Quote: Alarmist79
                        Then what kind of "resentment" are we talking about?

                        He complains, accuses, but does not say what he did to suppress such facts.
                        Quote: Alarmist79
                        Those who like "not to wash dirty linen in public" within a radius of a kilometer from government agencies are not tolerated, and in the army they are elementary dangerous.

                        That's right ... normal officers, commanders, suppress violations of regulations and discipline, they HAVE opportunities!
                        I want to say right away that I met various officers, commanders ... and since we have a military family, I can rely on the stories of my father, uncle and grandfather, my own, i.e. a long historical period ... almost the entire period of the USSR.
                        Negative phenomena in the SA began to manifest themselves from a specific period, after specific decisions of the country's leadership .... by the end of the existence of the USSR, they manifested themselves especially sharply !!! But as always, everything / a lot depended on the fathers of the commanders! The processes taking place in the army clearly reflected EVERYTHING that happened in the country, in civil society! These are all links in the same chain.
                      2. Alarmist79
                        Alarmist79 April 22 2021 12: 28
                        +1
                        = What? When? Why? = By the way, which ones exist in different armies in general and why? =

                        Do you seriously think that adversaries, for example, have a norm to offend officers who are junior in rank, because in the morning the reins fell under the tail? In a vorog, such characters have a fine mental organization and are treated in special institutions. Keeping psychopaths in the army is more expensive.

                        = He complains, blames, but does not say what he did to suppress such facts. =

                        1. To begin with, he just complains and blames. There weren't enough others for that either.

                        2. "As Comrade Stalin said, any problem has a first name, surname and patronymic. The army hazing at the university also has this data. This name is Glavpur. I talked with these comrades and it was on this occasion that I talked many times. There is zero sense. "
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 22 2021 12: 37
                        0
                        Quote: Alarmist79
                        In a vorog, such characters have a fine mental organization and are treated in special institutions. Keeping psychopaths in the army is more expensive.

                        And you served at the gate THEN, when lawyers were allowed to the army, if only the military were allowed ... it's not a boom to talk about now, because you have to understand it is necessary to go there.
                        Quote: Alarmist79
                        This name is Glavpur.

                        This is the same as the WHOLE CIVILIZED WORLD and other general, vague concepts.
                        Quote: Alarmist79
                        To begin with, he just complains and blames.

                        He is a senior officer and could start a case for clearing the ranks, writing a report and other actions ...
                        Blaming GLAVPUR means not blaming anyone and in any way.
                      4. Alarmist79
                        Alarmist79 April 22 2021 12: 57
                        +1
                        = And you served at the gate THEN, when lawyers were allowed to the army, then only the military. =
                        What does the "lawyers" have to do with it? Can you imagine the consequences of trying to open the mouth to "an officer and a gentleman" even in the 50s?
                        Thorough cultivation of bydlondravs began precisely in the Red Army after 1917 - the closer to the gateway, the more reliable. Then Wednesday supported itself.

                        = He is a senior officer and could start a case for clearing the ranks, writing a report and other actions ... =
                        And on what basis, excuse me, do you assert that he did not write them? Was he personally to report to you in a short interview about all his actions?
                        At the same time, it makes absolutely no difference whether he wrote something or not. Doesn't hush up the problem, it's already good.

                        = To accuse GLAVPUR means not to accuse anyone in any way. =
                        Oh really. This is a direct hit on the entire leadership of Glavpur, without exception, if you do not understand. Everyone can be to blame, surprise.
                2. bk316
                  bk316 April 22 2021 15: 28
                  +1
                  Then what kind of "resentment" are we talking about?

                  He is his long-standing personal graters extrapolates to the entire modern army school of training.
                3. Alarmist79
                  Alarmist79 April 23 2021 09: 40
                  0
                  = He extrapolates his old personal tricks to the entire modern army school of personnel training. =
                  Have you tried to read the article? We are talking about the current moment, graters as an example of the problems that were then and still remain.
                  And yes, what other "personal graters"? I understand that in the country of pink ponies there was no tradition of bestial attitude towards subordinates in the SA, but we are not discussing that.
                4. bk316
                  bk316 April 23 2021 12: 01
                  0
                  It's about the moment

                  This YOU did not try to read.
                  It's about the current moment, and half an article is crying about the events of 30 years ago.
                  Read especially for you
                  It wasn't easy. I started my way back in the army, as a nurse. And they took healthy, tall and athletic guys there. The implication was that the nurse must carry the wounded from the battlefield. And if the wounded person weighs more than one hundred kilograms? And if you have to carry two at the same time?

                  In addition, many nurses after our "training" went to serve in Afghanistan. And there, everyone's life can depend on the skill of the "pill" (as the fighters called us). So the soldiers were afraid to run into "pills" - even "grandfathers" and daring scouts. But at the academy, officer hazing began. I was terribly surprised by the animal hatred that the "fathers-commanders" felt towards us, freshmen.

                  One of them was simply poisonous lymph. Once he pissed me off so much that I asked: “Why so much anger, Comrade Major? Did I take your mother to be shot? ” I should have seen his face after that. He then harassed me all the years of study. And the distribution was misplaced by a special pull - to the Trans-Baikal Military District. The famous ZabVO, which the troops decipher "Forget to go back."


                  And the rest of the "analysis" is very characteristic of the "victims of business" who, I repeat, generalize their experience to the entire army. I just have a bunch of familiar officers, respectively, they graduated from many schools in St. Petersburg. No one won't remember
                  The attitude of the officers-teachers towards them is the same bestial, as before in the army the grandfathers had towards the salags. Maybe there is no such bullying as it used to be in the army, but the desire to "put down the soplezhuyev" (as the officers-curators of the first-year students in our academy were called) were always burning with pain. In general, in all Russian military universities there is still an unspoken rule that a good officer can only come from a completely "lowered" cadet.
                5. Alarmist79
                  Alarmist79 April 23 2021 12: 43
                  0
                  = YOU haven't tried to read it.
                  It's about the current moment, and half an article is crying about the events of 30 years ago. =
                  Kolomoisky is not your relative? The tactics are very characteristic. You declare this, having before your eyes an article where
                  The colonel answers a direct question from a journalist
                  -Immodest question. And how did you yourself survive this stage of "steel and slag"?
                  Moreover, on three paragraphs, about 1/7 of the interview.


                  = And the rest of the "analysis" is very characteristic of the "victims of business" =

                  Do you already have "victims of bullying" in quotes? Well, kagbe shows the level of your "honesty", yes.

                  = which, again, generalize their experience to the entire army. =
                  They exist in a vacuum, yeah. Or in practice, every first person who served in his time faced hazing?

                  = I just have a bunch of familiar officers, respectively, they graduated from many schools in St. Petersburg. Nobody will remember =

                  You offer to take your word for it wassat ? After the masterpieces above? I remember something, while a quick Google shows that this is not my sample.
                6. bk316
                  bk316 April 23 2021 13: 49
                  0
                  Immodest question. And how did you yourself survive this stage of "steel and slag"

                  Normal as the vast majority of those who served.
                  Not that I think bullying is a positive thing ...
                  But the stories about hazing are greatly exaggerated by people who did not serve (deserted, women, etc.) and simply do not understand army life, often mistaking for hazing "the burdens of army service." laughing Did you take the oath yourself?

                  You offer to take your word for it

                  Well, come visit. I will collect for you a dozen officers and former and employees. You probably still don't understand the difference between a term and a college.
                7. Alarmist79
                  Alarmist79 April 23 2021 15: 06
                  -1
                  = Normal =
                  I actually quoted the journalist's question.

                  = Well, come visit. I will collect for you a dozen officers and former and employees. =
                  This is rarely frank with outsiders, generally speaking.

                  = You probably still don't understand the difference between a term and a college. =
                  I understand perfectly.
  • Alarmist79
    Alarmist79 April 21 2021 22: 35
    +2
    To whom is everyone and everything? At the school with bullying and GlavPUR. It is clear that you would bravely endure and bravely not open your mouth after. But he is not - and he "broke" wassat ? Excellent DSLR.
  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 21 2021 12: 19
    +1
    It can be eradicated just - go back to basics
    Juvenile and other justice will make women out of men!
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  • Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. April 21 2021 12: 37
    +8
    In the army, everything depends on the commander. From personal experience, first four years in the command river school, then in the army. If the commander was a real one, this would not have happened at all. How to deal with this on this occasion. 1. The court of officer honor, why did not give the command 2) Disbat for violators or a criminal offense in case of grievous bodily harm; 3) All members of any community to wash toilets for a month after such cases, let them extinguish their male pride. This was the case in normal Soviet military units. there must be a cruel recertification. All rot is outside the gate.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra April 21 2021 12: 40
    -1
    The incident shocked the entire military.

    What are you talking about, author! Truth? For example, have you ever heard of another author? His name was Sergei Donatovich ...
    - "... Sergeant Goderidze suffered bodily injury in the amount of six teeth ..."
    He swore and added:
    - "... From fang to fang - inclusive ..." What do you say to that?
    “Vitamin deficiency,” I said.
    - What?!
    - Avitaminosis, - I say, - they feed lousy. Everyone's teeth are loose. You touch it a little, and hello ...

    Dovlatov, "Zone" ... He served in the escorts, by the way. Well, by the way, in the same place as some people ate the dog - described by Dovlatov ... And I can recall another pretzel, I also literally ate the dog, also the same troops. Tikhonov, Andrey, Spartach ...
  • Valeriy Sosnitsky
    Valeriy Sosnitsky April 21 2021 12: 41
    +11
    No offense, but the impression is that the interviewed military doctor did not study at the school at all, and the article is just a copy of the perestroika horror films about the army (especially "evil political officers" impressed, but somehow unconvincing without "evil special officers"). What "hazing" in the military schools of the USSR ???? Or the "reserve colonel" is simply trying to pass off his conflict with the company commander because of his "Afghan" show-offs as a ubiquitous phenomenon. We have seen enough of such "heroes" at one time. It was just such a soldier that they tried to introduce among the cadets. As a rule, they quickly got on the horns and at best they really went to the ZabVO, at worst they flew out of the school like traffic jams (especially since they could not boast of good knowledge).
    And in general, what is the connection between the fight between cadets and civilians with "bullying"? Well, the major stupid. I wanted the best - it turned out as always. Here the problem is in the selection of command personnel for the cadet units. And these problems will always be, while for service in Moscow and St. Petersburg (where the bulk of the higher educational institutions are located) the main thing that is required is the availability of housing in these cities. If in the place of this major a simple captain from the same Transbaikalia (I’m not even talking about the Southern Military District), this case would not have happened.
    1. Dmt
      Dmt April 21 2021 13: 30
      0
      The news is utterly distorted. Read it on other sources - you will understand everything yourself.
  • Sagaidark
    Sagaidark April 21 2021 12: 49
    +10
    The major would also have abandoned his own on the battlefield. In any situation, you need to stand up for your friends. Whatever the consequences. A kick in the ass to such a spineless person needs to be given
  • bk316
    bk316 April 21 2021 12: 55
    +17
    With such a numerical superiority, it was possible to do without a fight - they would have been crushed in a mass, they would have been tied up and taken to the department. And the officer just turned out to be. And the animals feel it very well, and that's what happened.

    Of course, you can't charge an officer with any article, but it's unambiguous to drive from the school.

    And hazing has nothing to do with it. Behave an officer like a grandfather, he would drive these horsemen without a crowd of cadets, he would drive a couple of kilometers alone.
  • Dmt
    Dmt April 21 2021 12: 55
    +4
    I did not grasp the meaning of the connection between the "bullying" (especially from the officers' side) and the incident. In my opinion, two things in the article are far-fetched to each other. Moreover, the expert talks about his training, and since then everything has changed dramatically.
  • wlkw
    wlkw April 21 2021 12: 59
    +9
    Sad ...
    It's sad .... Forty years ago (how time flies!) I participated in the same situation. Two were snowing one cadet, as if for nothing, as it turned out. We also went in a platoon. They rushed to the screams, one of the attackers ran away, the second was caught up, he took part in this, I ran well then, albeit in boots. They were twisted, taken to the school, then handed over to the police, and so on in stages.
    And everything was within the law, I note. The senior was an officer, but he was no runner, so we managed without him at the initial stage.
    1. bk316
      bk316 April 21 2021 13: 13
      +5
      I was involved in the same situation. Twisted, taken to school, then handed over to the police

      Yes, this is generally the "gold standard". Who didn't have that?
  • Alex66
    Alex66 April 21 2021 13: 01
    +16
    The question concerns self-defense in the first place, our state constantly shows that it is impossible to defend for this real terms are given, only public resonance can save, so what do you want from cadets if boys cannot fight from childhood, even girls are easier, although they are imprisoned. Show in practice that self-defense is good. In the meantime, the authorities are afraid of an independent people, we will suffer from those who are not afraid.
  • Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 April 21 2021 13: 13
    +15
    Just kill me, I don't understand what is the connection between the fight with "Caucasians" and "bullying" in the troops. From what oak did this Naryzhny collapse and what is he talking about at all? In the garden there is an elder, and in Kiev there is an uncle, that is what can be said about this so-called "interview". I don’t know, colleagues, did anyone in the higher educational institutions have hazing ??? According to my "alma mater" I can say one thing, no harassment, no insults, no humiliation from senior courses or soldier-sergeants who came from the troops were absolutely nothing from the word. Some kind of condescension, yes, but no more.
    As for the fight, here, of course, is an ambush. The boys could really be expelled from the Academy, that's a fact. But personally, I would only remember this after the fight. Unambiguously blizzard, and only then figure it out. How, HOW could the cadets stand and watch when their own beaten ????? Stand and watch !!! I just don’t understand this !!! How can they look their beaten comrades in the eyes ???? What kind of officers will they be after that ??? I'm just shocked where the world is heading. angry
  • hydroy
    hydroy April 21 2021 13: 14
    +7
    Three scoundrels bent a whole company over one moron, bravo
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. April 21 2021 13: 30
      +4
      So ... this is how the prestige of the army is falling, this should not be allowed. hi
      Now the brothers will mock us below.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze April 21 2021 21: 49
        +6
        Now the brothers will mock us below.


        Lech, you know perfectly well that I joke about templates, not over you ... hi
        For some Russians, Europeans are solid gays, Americans are bastards and gays and blacks, and so on according to the textbook. laughing

        Otherwise, out of jokes, then your laws are strange and incomprehensible - if our army beat the gypsies, then they will be given a vacation for this, not otherwise. In general, no one here will do anything to you if the gypsy is removed and then the police take him away and they will still beat him there. That is why Bulgaria is always in the lowlands of the Helsing Committee for Human Rights, and in all leaflets for refugees they write not to walk through us, because it is dangerous. I remember 2 years ago the border police fired warningly into the air, a bullet ricocated from the ISS (International Space Station) and entered the Afghani's head. The court said that everything is in order and that there are uncommon cases. laughing

        And you have such problems with Caucasians ..... obviously there are no more normal people, after we and the Hungarians screwed up from there, in the 4th century ... What does it mean to emigrate in time to the right place and to the warm sea ... laughing
    2. nerovnayadoroga
      nerovnayadoroga April 23 2021 01: 06
      0
      Yes, her, not three scoundrels, but one and not a company, but the whole RA! Ugh, disgusting!
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze April 21 2021 13: 15
    +6
    Well, not only American policemen are sitting on their knees, but also a company of the Russian army. Although the Americans were not beaten ... bully

    And how much laughter was - the Europeans are gays, such, all sorts of ... and three gypsies beat the company without looking. And who is the cock now, one wonders? laughing
    1. Dmt
      Dmt April 21 2021 13: 29
      +1
      And you read the whole news on another source - look at it a little differently.
    2. denplot
      denplot April 21 2021 13: 44
      +3
      Which company? They hit the last cadet in the platoon on the transition in the back. The major walking in front heard a scuffle at the end of the formation, turned around, ran, stopped. Of course, he did not know the reasons for the fight, who started it first. Was he supposed to make a massacre without understanding? He pulled apart the fighters, the attackers immediately fled. By the way, they have already been taken. I think they have an article and a deadline.
    3. vitvit123
      vitvit123 April 21 2021 19: 14
      -4
      And you read the history of WWII at least (other wars are possible) and find out who the cock in Europe is .. and don't go to the mirror, you never know what you will imagine ..
    4. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 22 2021 08: 07
      -1
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Well, not only American policemen are sitting on their knees, but also a company of the Russian army. Although the Americans were not beaten ... bully

      And how much laughter was - the Europeans are gays, such, all sorts of ... and three gypsies beat the company without looking. And who is the cock now, one wonders? laughing

      I heard a ringing but does not know where he is
    5. Pamir
      Pamir April 22 2021 22: 52
      0
      Eugene, in your opinion, "and three gypsies beat the company without looking."
      First, the company of the "Hypocratic Oath" stood at attention, with the command of the senior.
      Second, do you think you Gypsies are the same Caucasians? "Everything is clear with your knowledge of nationalities.
      Caucasians, to put it mildly, will never understand you.
      The Germans in WWII were NOT all Slavs, they were attributed to the Mongols. It did not help them.
      Thirdly, do not confuse the medical students, they are semi-military, NOT militants. They should not be confused with the students of effective military schools.
      I won't even minus you, it's not worth a glass of sour beer.
  • Dmt
    Dmt April 21 2021 13: 26
    +3
    And why does the author present the news from this side? I did not see the information that the skirmish took place at a traffic light and the blows fell on the crossing at the green intersection to the last cadet in the back and his friend who had turned. That the major (walking in front of the formation) just stopped the formation so that a fight did not occur right in the middle of the roadway. And that after being stabbed in the back, the Caucasians hastily ran away? With such facts, the news is perceived a little differently. Pulled an owl on a globe lol
    It seems that the author simply drew the news of the fight to an interview with an officer who was clearly offended by the army about "bullying".
    P.S. Almost any attack in the direction of the formation of cadets in St. Petersburg ends in failure. We, at one time, did not turn over the cars inadvertently "zabibikavshih" on line only because of the presence of these same course officers.
  • Glory1974
    Glory1974 April 21 2021 13: 51
    +3
    tells the colonel of the reserve medical service, military doctor Alexander Naryzhny.

    Disappearing among the troops after the contract, the army hazing in full and in the most perverted form was preserved in military universities and among the army officers. And its victims in military universities, first of all, are junior cadets.

    In general, in all Russian military universities there is still an unspoken rule that a good officer can only come from a completely "lowered" cadet.

    As a teacher of the military higher educational institution in reserve, I affirm that everything said by this Naryzhny is nonsense and nonsense!
    No one humiliates or demeans the cadets. In any military school, the Charter rules everything. Or do the officers force them to wash their socks, send them to get vodka, and break the "Elk" at night? fool
    In general, in all Russian military universities there is still an unspoken rule that a good officer can only come from a completely "lowered" cadet.

    Nobody asserts such nonsense. Maybe Naryzhny, offended by the whole army, confuses it with the statement "If you do not learn to obey, you will not learn to command"? Then questions to the intellectual level of this unfortunate lieutenant colonel.
    Generally speaking, interviews have a nasty aftertaste Spat the whole army in a crowd, all in shit, and he himself was all in white. He fought with commanders, sent to serve in ZABVO.

    The case with the cadets is ambiguous, there is little information. Many questions for the commander. The commander is always responsible for everything, even if it turns out that the brave abreks attacked from behind and immediately retreated to the third space.
  • Bez 310
    Bez 310 April 21 2021 14: 01
    +8
    The author is raving ...
    The officers did not humiliate us in the school, and there was not even a trace of "godkovschina". Once, a month after the Oath, the cadets who had come from military service, and there were about 20 of them in the company, tried to tell us in the smoking room how they would "rule". This "speech from the throne" was accidentally heard by senior cadets, and all plans about "godkovschina" were washed away like a wave. I was in the school and in the guardhouse, and they called for expulsion to the Council of the school, and even the Deputy of the Ministry of Defense for universities, a whole colonel-general, was figuring out with me whether it was worth making such a cadet an officer, but it was only me, nobody I didn’t do anything on purpose from the officers, I didn’t "spread rot", and I don’t remember any meanness on their part. In general, after such attention to me from the officers of the school, I had to serve a total of 30 "calendars", which I do not regret.
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 21 2021 15: 52
    +1
    How everything was there, I am not an eyewitness, so I do not presume to judge.
    But, say, the beating of civilians (regardless of nationality) by a unit under the command of a major would be another fruit.
    For the media, ours and not ours, for non-borrowers, for the creative intelligentsia - for all of them.
    And then any Sobol and other Kirill Serebryannikov, stealing, would start shouting that in Russia security forces like to kill people, and cannot stop even after hours.
    And when THESE from "Meduza" shout, our Commander-in-Chief and generals easily surrenders, throws them into those greedy screaming mouths - so long as they do not shout, squeak and crackle.
    That was the major's choice.
    For Grand Duke Vladimir, his warrior was armed, dangerous and always right - this is the cornerstone principle. Otherwise, he is either not a vigilante, or not his.
    And this Vladimir is not that Vladimir.
    And any major, and even colonel (Budanov) had examples before their eyes, as it happens.
  • Dmitry G.
    Dmitry G. April 21 2021 16: 04
    +8
    I read the article. Hazing in a military school is utter nonsense. The major, most likely, did not serve in the army for a day. As a lieutenant he got to the school and serves. What did he do at the beginning of the column when moving: did he show the way? or maybe he is Chapay? or maybe he is a mutant (with eyes on the back of his head)? The sergeant will perfectly cope with this, and his place is in the tail of the column, giving commands and controlling the situation. He withdrew himself from this and this situation arose with the punks. I could not organize the detention of the punks (during the arrest, the punks must be beaten hard but carefully) and handed over to the police. And the saddest thing is that this major will rise to the rank of colonel and, in the event of hostilities, will receive a battalion or regiment under his command, and then he will fight. When such officers are engaged in the education of cadets, the result is very sad. On the post of com. Platoons, companies get to military schools either for money or thieves, normal officers from the troops get no options. Therefore, such moronic cowardly majors mostly serve there. Shame, such people disgrace the shoulder straps of the rest of the normal officers. He is not even close to Colonel Budanov. Yeah.
    1. Dmt
      Dmt April 21 2021 16: 08
      +2
      And you find the information completely and only then express your opinion about the actions of Comrade. major. The author does not say, to put it mildly)) Although, judging by the registration, you registered only for the comment in the article smile
      1. Dmitry G.
        Dmitry G. April 21 2021 16: 20
        +4
        For this, and zaregalsya. I read the article in the fountain. With this colonel in the reserve, I do not agree, but my opinion is my opinion, I do not impose it on anyone.
  • dgonni
    dgonni April 21 2021 20: 18
    +3
    In Soviet times? The major would simply have turned away and the militia would have wiped the bastards off the asphalt!
    And even if no one in a healthy or drunk state had turned away, the platoon of cadets would not have climbed!
    Hand strap and voila.
    The cops and those knew that jokes with the cadets are bad.
    And this is a complete paragraph!
    Shame in one word!
    In our times, these bastards would at least end up with resuscitation!
    1. agond
      agond April 21 2021 21: 54
      +2
      What if something like this happened to cadets in Israel, China or the United States?
  • bbss
    bbss April 21 2021 23: 52
    +1
    Quote: paul3390
    An encroachment on the life of a law enforcement officer, a military serviceman, as well as their relatives, in order to impede the legitimate activities of these persons in protecting public order and ensuring public safety, or out of revenge for such activity -

    Steep away in this Sisyphean field ... To prove that it was not a camel, and they did it, and there was an encroachment, the knife was real, etc. etc. Do not write more such deep ... unsuccessful examples.
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus April 22 2021 04: 31
    +3
    Mnd, the combat readiness of such an "army" is zero. Or even lower. In the US Armed Forces, there was also "hazing" not only in the sense of old-timers against newcomers, but in the sense of the guys who mocked those who were weaker, well, officers with sergeants. Vietnam was drafted into the army. Well, in a combat situation or during an ambush, a lot can happen. For example, settling accounts. Well, VC came in from the rear, well, they had trophy M16s with them ... It happens ... Or people saw something unpleasant, something that did not concern him personally, and had the foolishness to say that he would tell the bosses oooops ... It happens .. Even in Iraq ... It’s one thing if you knock on the authorities that they are mocking you - although it’s not like a kid, you can understand, and the command will do something after the investigation .. But if you knock because your colleagues indulge in junk - it's NOT YOUR BUSINESS. If you want to be a sissy, be it. Your business. No one will say a word to you, neither for nor against.
    During a real battle, such an "army" will start settling accounts with each other. Checked. And in Korea and Vietnam (especially). Therefore, with us, hazing is very strict. Exceptions are the Marine Corps and some Special Forces units. There it is not only "hazing" but "traditions", for example, from the Marines, when you get a corporal (stripes on your pants), these stripes are "driven into your skin" so that you "never lose" them. But even then, you have a choice. You can do as Mishka T. did. He immediately said that "the first person who touches me goes to the report that I submit, no, not to the sergeant, no, not to the captain, but to the major. Deal with him." They lagged behind him, though right up to the end of the service they did not consider him "theirs", since "they do not obey the traditions." I don't know if the Marines have such "traditions" or not. Such traditions can also be harmless. For example, weapons technicians, when they receive the rank of E-3, are suspended under the wings of fighters, with a rifle, and they must pretend to be a set of outboard weapons when the engine is running and the plane is traveling along the GDP. In the Navy, they can easily fasten it to the ceiling of an aircraft carrier with electrical tape ... You are a "Bulb" and help the mechanics with your light. You will tear yourself away from the ceiling :-).
    But the COMMAND reacts very harshly and harshly to any COMPLAINTS. Why? And because he absolutely knows what a hunted and twitched soldier can do with an M4 or even an M249 in his paws. Do they need such a stain in their personal files? "In the company under his command, the soldier, because of the bullying that the authorities did not stop, opened fire on his colleagues." Or self-sawing ... Naturally, the officer does not need this in his personal file NAFIG. You can safely resign from the Armed Forces after such a note. And the sergeant needs it even less, the officer is difficult to demote, and the sergeant is easy. So with this, as well as with the community here, the authorities are fighting with all their might. He clearly knows that if something happens, the guys who were bullied may well settle accounts with the offenders. Here jokes like "we blacks must stick together" are suppressed at once. At least they were suppressed when I served.
    And one more moment, when you screwed up that you MUST know what you are doing, then the sergeant may well drive you to the march, during which you will read the instructions aloud and loudly after him. Or do push-ups from the floor doing the same. This is NOT hazing. You screwed up, be so kind as to answer. And not just answer, but memorize instructions so you will never forget.
    And while the army has such "non-regulation" relations, the army threatens itself, and not the enemy. Everywhere there are "traditions", and you have a choice, either never to be "on the board" and refuse to participate in this, or participate in them. I repeat, there is "Tradition" there is simply "non-statutory" and there are punishments for jambs. One thing I can say, having received a complaint from the victim, the overwhelming majority of commanders begin a showdown (for their career it is easier to show that I have figured out the problem than to risk that something will happen in the unit). There are cases, and there are many, but you are immediately told that "by covering up the instigators you give them the power to mock others over and over again." And the further, the more the command with such "traditions" and "non-regulation" is fighting. It helps a lot in my career. As a result, even those incidents that the guys went through when I served, in the 80s or 70s, no one would even consider "non-statutory". They began to fight against non-regulation only in the early 80s, after Vietnam, when they counted how many cases and accounts and suicides there were and grabbed their heads. Now even the Marines and even the Special Forces are struggling with "traditions", despite the resistance from the old servicemen.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 22 2021 08: 10
      0
      Throwing grenades at officers was in vogue in Vietnam.
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus April 22 2021 18: 03
        0
        And not only grenades, and not only officers. Anything can happen.
  • Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 April 22 2021 06: 18
    +1
    what
    This news is already several days old. To express an opinion on a conflict, you need to know the details of the conflict. The news feeds are voiced in the style of pulp fiction, in the style: "Caucasians beat a company of cadets."
    This may not be the first time. Whether they are Caucasians or a local gopota, they know who they can get in touch with, and who is harmful to their health. For example, even the first-year cadets of the Novosibirsk VVKU are not touched by the local gopota, there are also enough "daring Caucasians" here.
    Remembering my 18-17 years ago, when I saw that my colleague was beaten two or three against one, I would not hesitate to get into a fight.
    According to the Charter of the Internal Service, a soldier is obliged to come to the rescue ...
    At the beginning of the XNUMXs, during training courses for newly recruited employees, our colleague was beaten well by the locals (he spent two weeks in a local hospital), we managed to come running when he was stumbled on a bed. In general, they detained everyone, crumpled a little, summoned a patrol squad, took everyone to the police station, took explanations, recorded the beatings, informed the head of the Academy of courses, and sent certificates to the regional offices. One of us was returned home and fired there. It turns out that they exceeded their powers during the arrest, and the gopota indicated that the one who was fired was especially severely beaten.
  • English tarantas
    English tarantas April 22 2021 07: 46
    +2
    The problem of extra-statutory relations in a completely ruined country. We cannot bring up a "Man" before being drafted, and what is most terrible, we cannot weed them out when they are called up, and what is most terrible is already in units and (!) In schools that cannot cope with this.
    The point is, to introduce a psychotherapist into the military commission, who will tell you who can be taken at all, where can be sent and what to do with him there.
    And all these tales that the old man brings up a strong person is nonsense and nonsense, the very order of army life makes a person strong, and sitting in a unit and getting lullies from cattle, and the hopelessness of the unwillingness of officers to fulfill their duties, give rise to tens, if not hundreds of thousands mentally traumatized people.
    I myself did not serve, but from the numerous stories I know a lot about hazing and fellow countrymen, and I am not inclined to consider myself a fool. I am sure that on the battlefield, at first a fighter will think only about fear, but fired upon fighters will start to wonder whether they need to rely on "comrades in arms" who wiped their feet on them. And the funniest thing is when you have a machine gun and no one may even ask where this or that soldier has gone, and where did you shoot the cartridges, in such a situation all the nits will definitely get what they deserve.
    For 40 years, at least in the army, there has been a mess and sabotage, but we will be silent about it, and the poor fellows will be sent to court.
    A curtain.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion April 22 2021 08: 07
    +2
    That is, the major had to command the entire column "face", and then explain for the bloody corpses? Normal logic. The fact that a person, most likely, already at some age could not clean the snouts of three mountain rams, is, as it were, another question.

    This is not a question for the army, the commander was actually put in a desperate situation, but for society and its law. If the law does not solve the problem of mountain sheep, then ordinary Russian men will solve it by means of pogroms and social squeezing, when any person of Caucasian nationality will be discriminated against.
    1. Dmitry G.
      Dmitry G. April 22 2021 10: 42
      +1
      Of course, no front command should be given. Major's decision is a masterpiece of military skill, he should even be rewarded for this decision and set as an example for others. Somewhat aged is about 30 years old. awesome age major, almost an old man. It is much more difficult to explain for the bloody corpses than for the mothers of the cadets, one of whom is most likely on commission. Mothers grab any spit from the Major. And there are no traces of beatings on the major, he skillfully dodged hooligans, handsome. He was still wrong with his profession, the sales manager is the very thing, negotiate and negotiate. And even better, in such a situation, blow the whistle and shout; help the bullies deprive them of sight; (all the remaining platoon can do) Although 30-2 = 28, not such big losses, in St. Petersburg at a pedestrian crossing. And for the front command, the commander must have a rod inside, preferably steel and not aluminum, And then give answers to the prosecutor's office, but not everyone can do it. Maybe then the cadets would have been more whole. And so another 5-6 such meetings with hooligans on the crossings, with such a military officer and there is no platoon, the whole will fall.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 22 2021 11: 09
        +1
        You can immediately see a professional who stopped 30 people who were ready to tear someone up. However, if he broke the snout of the mountain rams, or those who were run over by the rams did it, then there would be no problems, well, the rams would lie on the sidewalk, spitting their teeth, and that's it, and they would not go anywhere to complain. And what kind of servicemen are they who cannot, with approximately equal numbers, mark three rams.
        1. Dmitry G.
          Dmitry G. April 22 2021 12: 05
          +1
          It was just here that there was no need to stop anyone, it was necessary to organize the detention of the hooligans by personal example, by the composition of the platoon. And not to agree to disperse in peace, all the same, the major did not succeed (this is just a half-measure). He was very scared for his warm place: school, Peter, an apartment - a fairy tale, not a service, a dream. And on the other side of the scales there are some cadets, of whom there will always be a lot in the school. The choice of a major is his well-being, peace of mind, although he will be asked questions, And then, after 20-30 years, his conscience may wake up and he will remember his exploits, abandoned his cadets, or maybe his conscience will not wake up and he will not remember anyone. Something like this.
    2. nerovnayadoroga
      nerovnayadoroga April 23 2021 01: 26
      +1
      Excuse me, but whose corpses will there be? All the defenders gutar about the poor Caucasians, but about the poor cadets who could turn into corpses due to the commander's practically inaction ... get out of here, get out of here damn it ...., in front of the whole platoon, no one wants to say! ? This is insanity and shame !!!
  • Dmitry Zverev
    Dmitry Zverev April 22 2021 09: 23
    0
    Eh, guys, first of all, in Soviet times, when hazing flourished, no Caucasians would have attacked the cadets. And if they had attacked, they would have received from the whole platoon badges with a star on the head with all that it implies. And then all this would have been hushed up and no one would have learned anything.
    And now times are different. A small bruise on the shaggy surface - that's it, drain the oil. Investigative Committee, military prosecutor's office - expulsion, real terms, ethnic strife, compensation for moral and physical harm. So there is no need to tell anything. Beating Caucasians on the street in front of witnesses is as bad as if the cadets beat a woman out of the blue.
  • swyatoslav
    swyatoslav April 22 2021 09: 31
    0
    Here many write: ... we remember in our time ...
    But now is a different time. When they are imprisoned for lynching at the expense of times, without listening to the motivation of the defender of honor, home, family, life. This does not mean that it is necessary to release everything on the brakes, but it is imperative to soberly estimate the layouts.
    1) expulsion, and even the court with the terms that intervened;
    2) it is better to send the highlanders to the zone for heavy bodily, and even inflicted during execution (in uniform), there it will be much clearer for them who they are and what they are, than if they just got in unshaven faces.
    After all, these same "mountain eagles" would not hesitate to shed tears if they happened to appear in court, telling how they were "subjected to the unforced aggression of superior forces" - they have nothing sacred. Perhaps in the zone they will be explained: what is good and what is bad - by concepts.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 22 2021 10: 14
    +3
    I will allow myself to insert about my "five cents".
    Firstly, the Medical Academy is not the Ryazan Airborne Military School. These boys are taught to heal people, not to knock out their jaws. Secondly, children in such universities, as a rule, come from families of doctors and their upbringing is appropriate. Botanists, as they say. Those who graduated from the universities of the Ministry of Internal Affairs will understand me, that our contingent was extremely opposite. Children of employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Internal Affairs did not put a finger in their mouths - they were taught what to do with greyhounds. Yes, both physical training and hand-to-hand combat were taught to all of us, conscientiously. Even now, a retired throw through the thigh or a stranglehold, I can, boor, put it in place. Otherwise, I agree with the author, this problem has a full name. The question needs to be tackled, tough and uprooted.
    1. Dmitry G.
      Dmitry G. April 22 2021 11: 46
      +1
      The physical training program at the Military Medical Academy should be the same for all land schools. And fighting techniques are present there. And I think the teachers are normal there. Even if they are all nerds, and they are all dwarfs (height 1,3), but there were 30 of them. Tin is simple.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich April 22 2021 14: 25
        +2
        Yes. I agree. They would have piled up the whole crowd and swept them aside, boors. And the officer, I just think, was scared to give free rein to the guys ...
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe April 23 2021 11: 41
          0
          Do you know what would become of the officer and his family later?
    2. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe April 23 2021 11: 45
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      the poll needs to be resolved, tough and uprooted.

      Whom? Where to pull out and why?
      a retiree throw over the thigh or a stranglehold I can, boor, put in place.

      In this case, the mountaineers have provided for an option - to get together and beat a strong enemy with a crowd

      Diaspora is strong because they stand for each other
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  • Sfurei
    Sfurei April 22 2021 13: 00
    +6
    There is not even much to say. I would ask questions to the major, and to the cadets. I can’t even imagine that as cadets one of the officers could stop us when they beat ours nearby. This is more a question for the mentality of today's youth and the education of cadets.
  • akropin
    akropin April 22 2021 13: 57
    +3
    In the 50s, my father studied at the Yaroslavl anti-aircraft missile. During the dances, on the day off, several cadets were beaten. The head of the school personally opened the gates and sent everyone who was in the barracks to look for those who did it.
    1. Clear
      Clear April 23 2021 13: 14
      +1
      Quote: akropin
      In the 50s, my father studied at the Yaroslavl anti-aircraft missile. During the dances, on the day off, several cadets were beaten. The head of the school personally opened the gates and sent everyone who was in the barracks to look for those who did it.

      His need to bail out.
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  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 22 2021 14: 11
    +1
    The article is not adequate, where does the hazing?

    As I understood (a week ago), a formation was going down the street and one cadet in the back row touched a civilian Caucasian (there were three of them), he said that he would rip off the shoulder straps from the cadet, the cadet replied that he was not "Mr." I hung it up so I could rip it off now.
    A fight broke out word for word. The officer who walked in front ran to the end of the formation giving the order "not to fight!" after which the cadets complied with the order and were beaten like whipping bags. For obvious reasons, the officer's order does not apply to Caucasians.
    The officer explained his behavior as follows:
    there were a lot of people around, each holding a smartphone. The guys could have multiplied these Caucasians to zero by rolling them into the asphalt, but they would have been immediately photographed on smartphones and posted on the Internet with headlines that the military were beating civilians, therefore, I forbade them to fight and ran to separate them myself.

    Am I misunderstanding something?
    1. place
      place April 22 2021 14: 41
      +3
      Quote: Bshkaus
      Am I misunderstanding something?


      In my opinion, everything is so. Here the story would not be about hazing, but about the absolutely slavish self-consciousness of the whole society. Our compatriots are afraid of the wrath of their superiors worse than a fierce death at the hands of the enemy. The Sovereign Emperor will order to destroy his own medium-range missiles, as in the 90s - SO EXACTLY YOUR FORD! And they successfully destroyed, although the enemy did not do that. He will order his own country to fucking ruin it, destroyed it ... - the ruler reports this "to the regional committee" to President Bush and laughs himself ..... He will order the soldiers to put a bullet in the head themselves - they will let them ...
      And then it turns out that this "emperor" is either a traitor or a crazy drunk, right after Saltykov-Shchedrin. "The land of slaves is the land of masters" .....
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe April 23 2021 11: 39
        0
        Here we are not talking about hazing

        I agree, this is a substitution of concepts

        It should be about the constant conflict between Russians and people from the Caucasus
        about the absolutely slavish self-consciousness of the whole society.

        Do not write nonsense.

        Russians are developed enough not to live by the notions of the Middle Ages. With teips (childbirth), an absolute cult of physical strength, wild orders and strange relationships in the family.

        In a fist duel with savages, savages always win

        The problem in Russia is the absence of society and laws under which savage habits become completely useless. In the absence of other forms of organization, those who are members of diasporas and teips win. And the Russians themselves are defenseless in front of them.
        1. place
          place April 27 2021 15: 53
          0
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Russians are developed enough not to live by the notions of the Middle Ages. With teips (childbirth), an absolute cult of physical strength, wild orders and strange relationships in the family.


          "To be developed" is at least to have at least some concepts, or to live according to the law of your state. The Caucasus has a clue! And what do we actually have?
          As under the law of the Russian Federation. and according to the law of the RSFSR, Yeltsin's actions in 1991-1993 are a state crime with signs of the article of the Criminal Code - "Treason to the Motherland"
          IT'S NOT I INSTALLED. This was established by the Commission of the State Duma of the Russian Federation back in the 90s.
          The Russian people 2 times chose a criminal as their president .... "we were fast asleep and knew nothing", "and for whom else? ..." - this is the true level of development. In fact, it’s you who write nonsense .......
        2. place
          place April 27 2021 15: 59
          0
          Quote: Santa Fe
          And the Russians themselves are defenseless in front of them.


          In ... in ... here THIS is the true level of development. In your country, in a strange way, defenselessness follows from being civilized. It is characteristic of the Russian people, for whom the word "authority" does not mean a scientist or a defender of justice, but a bandit!
          But in fact, the law is a civilian means of protection for a developed people. And the Caucasus and even any bandits have at least ancient concepts! And if there are no concepts, no law, the people are so strange and will be defenseless. Can't you see the obvious?
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  • Vladimir Basov
    Vladimir Basov April 22 2021 17: 28
    0
    Well, let then our people get people from the highlanders, and our commentators will proudly beat them in the chest as the commander allegedly defended them, and keep silent about how they scrubbed their glasses at night!
  • orcinus
    orcinus April 22 2021 17: 38
    +1
    Reading the comments, you immediately understand who graduated from college and began serving under the Union - all these people agree that the major is to blame, and that it was necessary to run a herd back and forth seven times over three "people from the southern regions." Understand one thing: now is a different time and different youth, from the word "absolutely". Yes, when in the 70s my father stood on duty in the company, and cadets of another school, beaten by civilians, ran in, with which the school of my ancestor was always at odds, then Dad raised the whole company, and she ran to put "social justice" on the street, yes, we arrived "for the sake of form" a couple of bobbins, pretended to be trying to detain someone in the uniform (as it was written later, "in unidentified"). In the morning, the head of another school came to the formation and said: "Thank you in an officer's way!" That's it, no one was expelled, no one was expelled, etc. I think every school had similar stories, but that was then. Now there is a camera in every phone, he just coughed loudly, after 3 minutes on dozens of telegram channels they write that you are fucking talking. Imagine that the major did not hold back the cadets, and there is a video in which 20-25 people in uniform, in the center of the capital and the Motherland of all great people, beat three civilians who are (if anyone has forgotten) citizens of the Russian Federation. What kind of hype is going to be? What, will they write that "well done, let's get some more"? And, taking into account the "proletarian origin" of every second person in the academy, there would still be the offspring of the "big boss of a small airline" - the media would immediately throw dung on a fan about majors, etc. I personally have questions for our infantile young people from the "middle lane" who do not want and do not go in for sports, in contrast to 100% of the same Caucasians. They did not beat one of three, but, in fact, three against three, as I understand from various sources. Let's move the situation to another location - a nightclub - there are three of the same cadets in civilian life with their companions and the three aforementioned characters "dokulup" to them. Our cadets are also shoveling. That in this situation the platoon with the major should also help? Let's better find photos of the beaten and attackers, in my opinion, everything will be clear in their physical appearance. This is not a Soviet cadet who, a-ki "konik" oil 5 km every day, and even professionally engaged in some kind of sport 6 times a week (including doctors!). Now you ask a person 19-20 years old to pull up at least 10 times, believe me, you will be surprised. Pysy: I don't think I would also hook with the paratrooper cadets) They cling to those to whom they can.
    1. mmaxx
      mmaxx April 22 2021 17: 46
      +1
      Right now, young people are pretty decently developed physically. Mostly better than in Soviet times.
    2. nerovnayadoroga
      nerovnayadoroga April 23 2021 01: 40
      0
      You yourself understood what you have invented, you are ready to destroy your army for the sake of public opinion, which still needs to be substantiated, ask the inhabitants of this country their attitude to this crime, perhaps you will understand something ...
    3. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe April 23 2021 11: 16
      0
      Reading the comments, you immediately understand who graduated from college and began serving under the Union - all these people agree that the major is to blame, and that it was necessary to run a herd back and forth seven times over three "people from the southern regions."

      Then the whole family of the major, one evening on the street, seven times a herd in the face
      And the major himself - under the article

      The Caucasus is so arrogant because it is well-knit and influential, the offender will be punished in all situations. And in the face, and according to the law
  • mmaxx
    mmaxx April 22 2021 17: 45
    +2
    The fact that the tambourine was polished to the major is good. And it is logical. If the cadets did not fight for him, then he deserved it. Only here I argue: he will not shoot himself.
  • Pushkar
    Pushkar April 22 2021 18: 11
    +2
    Yes, Major is a hide. He is primarily to blame. Only if someone thinks that officers will grow out of these beaten cadets, he is mistaken. The whole platoon must be expelled. Forgotten sacred - perish yourself, and help your comrade. Precisely soplezhui. No quotes.
  • egsp
    egsp April 22 2021 18: 21
    0
    It is clear that it was necessary to sweep the crowd of these "Hurons", but then, God forbid, serious injuries or death, all the cadets and the officer will go to prison. THIS was in the thoughts of this commander. It's like self-defense - defend yourself, but if you sit down.
  • Pamir
    Pamir April 22 2021 22: 30
    -1
    I wonder why, according to an unwritten unwritten rule, in the Marine Corps, the Airborne Forces, the GRU, on conscription, they never took Caucasians, of the Islamic Confession? Even in the USSR? a small number, Caucasians are very rare, in units.
    One would think that if on the way of a dozen, another, civil Caucasians (Muslims), a training platoon of the Marine Corps or the Airborne Forces, not even a company of the Airborne Forces, or the Marine Corps, if there is a company, then sadness, and something suggests that the meeting would hardly have taken place. Everything would be peaceful, civilized, one hundred meters apart from each other, it is clear who and whom would free the way, as in the good old days.
    And so it is clear that the major was reinsured, but these are doctors, semi-civilians, so they should not be blamed, not their fault, they have the credo "Keep health and life." instill, humanity and philanthropy, the "Hypocrat Oath" in general. Thank God, nearby or in parallel, the militants from the Airborne Forces-Mor.
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe April 23 2021 11: 13
      0
      Quote: Pamir
      nearby or in parallel, the militants from the Airborne Forces-Mor. Pehovs did not go as combatants. There, in the event of a skirmish, the radius would have been cleared by three kilometers.

      The knife must be held in the right hand, and the Russians - in fear

      Caucasian etiquette
      1. Pamir
        Pamir April 24 2021 17: 38
        0
        Oleg, I comment, Not a minus, not a plus, Caucasians hold a knife with a reverse grip, blade up (away from themselves). And they beat from above.
        At the Special Forces of the Airborne Forces, Marine Corps, the grip of the blade is straight, and they beat from the bottom, or from the side (with the cutting edge of the knife, towards you).
        1. Pamir
          Pamir April 24 2021 17: 43
          0
          My mistake, I apologize, they have the cutting edge of the knife towards themselves, we have from ourselves. The question is not in the position of the edge of the knife, the question is a blow from the position. In our troops, almost never a blow from above, a blow strictly from below, or from the side.
  • certero
    certero April 23 2021 01: 21
    +2
    Quote: nnm
    Is there logic in his words? In my opinion, yes, there is

    No logic whatsoever. they had the right to detain the offenders and turn them over to the police. This is exactly what should have been done
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe April 23 2021 11: 11
      0
      arrest offenders and turn them over to the police

      How
      Join them in hand-to-hand combat?

      If by some miracle the cadets win, they and the major will go through the stage, the influential diaspora will not leave it just like that
      And the head of the major's wife will also be broken, one evening

      To know who is being detained
      This is exactly what should have been done

      Ko-ko-ko
  • Tagan
    Tagan April 23 2021 10: 15
    +1
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Well, not only American policemen are sitting on their knees, but also a company of the Russian army. Although the Americans were not beaten ... bully

    And how much laughter was - the Europeans are gays, such, all sorts of ... and three gypsies beat the company without looking. And who is the cock now, one wonders? laughing

    What is being done, you are also a storyteller)))
    American warriors (no longer the boys after school, over whom you made fun of), even when they are not beaten, are ready to fall on their knees and cry. This is a fact, and not an isolated one.
    There are plenty of examples of the heroism of modern Russian soldiers, which cannot be said about yours.
    Your question "And who is the cock now, I ask?" Well, there is no reason to take off these regalia from you. This is your centuries-old essence - to be under someone, to push someone))
  • flicker
    flicker April 23 2021 10: 17
    0
    Army bureaucrats can do it.

    And then we all have to wait for the next incident with "soplezhuyami", "skins", "rats" and "boots".

    Is that what they say in the synagogue? wink bully
  • Santa Fe
    Santa Fe April 23 2021 11: 07
    +1
    The "abscess" of bullying

    This article and the comments below is an example of how easy it is to fool people.
    The first word is GIRL and everyone forgot that natives of the Caucasus beat the cadets of the military academy... the problem of mutual hatred of Russians and Chechens / Dagestanis in society is a topic. And everyone began to discuss the imposed topic of some kind of hazing, which has nothing to do with the beating of cadets by three people from the mountains.