The launching dates of the regular Poseidon carrier were postponed

The launching of the standard carrier of the Poseidon unmanned underwater vehicles - the Project 09851 Khabarovsk nuclear submarine - is postponed again, now to the fall. It is reported by TASS with reference to a source in the DIC.

The launching of the Khabarovsk nuclear submarine has been postponed again, a source in the OPK said. The autumn of this year was named new terms, without specifying specific dates. The source did not name the reason for the postponement of the ceremony for several months. Earlier, the launch of the "Khabarovsk" was planned in May, but this is also according to the source. Traditionally, Sevmash news do not comment, so there is no official information.

In general, the construction of a regular nuclear carrier drones Poseidon is surrounded by secrecy, as it should be. The press is content with either official statements or rumors. At the moment, there is information that after launching and completing afloat, the Khabarovsk will go to trials, which will take at least two years.

Since there are no technical details of the project, it is assumed that the Khabarovsk nuclear submarine of project 09851 will be able to carry six Poseidons on board. He will become a regular carrier of nuclear marine drones.

At present, there are three Poseidon submarines at various stages of construction - the experimental carrier Belgorod, the regular carrier Khabarovsk and the first serial Ulyanovsk. The first to enter the Navy will be the nuclear submarine Belgorod, a former Project 949A Antey submarine. The date of commissioning "Khabarovsk" has not yet been announced. As for the third "Ulyanovsk", everything is also hidden in fog. According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense, it should be operational by 2027.

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[Victor_B]

The launching of the standard carrier of the Poseidon unmanned underwater vehicles - the Project 09851 Khabarovsk nuclear submarine - is postponed again, now to the fall.

Alas...
Expected ...
Does anyone remember that something was handed over on time?
It's a shame, damn it ...

[mark1]

But not critical. Bye ... because what would be critical it would be necessary to have something to wear.

[RMT]

Experimental, first full-time, first serial, and these are three different boats. In my opinion, this is all "straw" so that there is always an excuse for uniqueness, lack of experience, and you can write off any jamb.

[ABC-schutze]

Or, perhaps, a relatively symmetrical "response" of the Kremlin to the refusal of the States from the already presented sending of its own destroyers to the Black Sea. In the context of "support" for the former united Ukraine. In a word, Moscow does not "close the door" ... I, a person from military affairs, is far from, but I believe that Uncle Sam is worried about the prospects of our Poseidons a little more than Moscow, it is already familiar with the realities of American fermentation in the water area of ​​the World Cup. Maybe I'm wrong ... ...

[Boris55]

Quote: mark1

But not critical.

In principle, for Poseidon with a vigorous engine, it does not need a carrier, it can independently swim where it is necessary.

Quote: Boris55

Experimental, first full-time, first serial, and these are three different boats. In my opinion, this is all "straw" so that there is always an excuse

Does anyone in the world have something like that?

[Bez 310]

Quote: Boris55

Does anyone in the world have something like that?

No one has, and neither do we ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Bez 310

Quote: Boris55

Does anyone in the world have something like that?

No one has, and neither do we ...

China found a US counterpart of a Russian nuclear drone.

The Chinese edition of the “Huangqiu Shibao” published an article that states that the Russian submarine nuclear drone Poseidon is not at all a unique development. This is due primarily to the fact that in the United States the development of such weapons began in the 1996 year.

China recognizes that the Russian Poseidon nuclear drone is a unique weapon that can destroy half of the continent, and in the event of a massive launch of such UAVs, the consequences of a strike can be much more terrifying than it can be imagined. Nevertheless, in the People's Republic of China they emphasize that in the near future the United States of America will have something similar, since the Manta project being developed here is not much different from the Russian Poseidon.

[Trickster]

In principle, for Poseidon with a vigorous engine, it does not need a carrier, it can independently swim where it is necessary.

Absolutely true, the carrier is a huge target and an opportunity for enemies to bang at once a pack of drones. Most likely, drones are already quietly and peacefully plowing endless seas and oceans.

[hagen]

Quote: mark1

Bye ... because what would be critical it would be necessary to have something to wear.

In extreme cases, what needs to be worn can sail away from the pier without a carrier. Nuclear power plant allows. I would suggest that with such a power plant it would be possible to create an autonomous unmanned patrol apparatus in order to continuously monitor, for example, the outer waters beyond the Kuril Islands or the boundaries of the Barents Sea. Although, maybe it is, we just don't know?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Victor_B

Does anyone remember that something was handed over on time?

And because you don't have to pop ahead of time. Give it up, then announce it. And then they took fashion a little, so bawl all sorts of statements. "It's time to end this scion."

[lis-ik]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Victor_B

Does anyone remember that something was handed over on time?

And because you don't have to pop ahead of time. Give it up, then announce it. And then they took fashion a little, so bawl all sorts of statements. "It's time to end this scion."

It feels like all our new weapons and upgrades are a distraction. With what pathos were announced in 2014-15 "Armata", "Coalition", "Boomerang", SU-57. None of this is in real troops and is apparently not foreseen. The modernization of "Nakhimov" is a perpetual walk in agony and pulling out funds. Those who like to calibrate should know that a salvo of 2-3 US destroyers will completely block the entire salvo of all Russian Calibers. All this is sad. Loud statements for domestic consumption, but in fact, only chatter. As is typical in the construction of yachts and tankers, the terms are not shifted. Further more, already quite outrageous projects have gone. At least the same "Poseidon". How he will secretly leave the base, even with a carrier, at least not, if each of our missile carriers is under close supervision and practically on a leash. A very incomprehensible situation and for whom is it intended?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: lis-ik

It feels like all our new weapons and upgrades are a distraction. With what pathos were announced in 2014-15 "Armata", "Coalition", "Boomerang", SU-57.

It seems to me that this is not the point. It's just that there are different ambitious people who are asleep and see themselves as very media. So that they were invited to all sorts of parties, like "60 minutes" or whatever, to Solovyov, to the "Star" and so on. These ears are on TV like uncut dogs, they have spread malakhovism, even swear words are not enough.

[sustav75]

Yeah. Armata and other kaolitsii even roll out at parades! And Poseidons and their carriers are unlikely to fit on Moscow streets

[Grits]

Quote: lis-ik

Those who love to calibrate should know that a salvo of 2-3 US destroyers will completely block the entire salvo of all Russian Calibers.

Everything is correct. And so it is high time to install "Calibers" not on frigates, but on Kamaz trucks.

[Xscorpion]

Quote: lis-ik

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Victor_B

Does anyone remember that something was handed over on time?

And because you don't have to pop ahead of time. Give it up, then announce it. And then they took fashion a little, so bawl all sorts of statements. "It's time to end this scion."

It feels like all our new weapons and upgrades are a distraction. With what pathos were announced in 2014-15 "Armata", "Coalition", "Boomerang", SU-57. None of this is in real troops and is apparently not foreseen. The modernization of "Nakhimov" is a perpetual walk in agony and pulling out funds. Those who like to calibrate should know that a salvo of 2-3 US destroyers will completely block the entire salvo of all Russian Calibers. All this is sad. Loud statements for domestic consumption, but in fact, only chatter. As is typical in the construction of yachts and tankers, the terms are not shifted. Further more, already quite outrageous projects have gone. At least the same "Poseidon". How he will secretly leave the base, even with a carrier, at least not, if each of our missile carriers is under close supervision and practically on a leash. A very incomprehensible situation and for whom is it intended?

Burke's standard load is 8 axes. So only in your wet fantasies they can launch 100 missiles from one destroyer. Well, about close observation. The Americans have no more than 6 Virginias on alert, and they usually accompany the AUG So I will disappoint you, but they have nothing to monitor even the bases of our submarines, let alone every submarine. And besides our submarines, there is China, North Korea, Iran and other countries that the Americans also need to monitor. So that in the best case, they have one submarine rubbing in the Norwegian and Sea of ​​Japan on patrol, and the rest of the submarines are very far from the Russian shores.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Xscorpion

Burke's standard load -8 axes

In a multipurpose version. In shock 56.

[Xscorpion]

They do not go in the shock version. This is done only for the duration of specific tasks with very large formations, that is, two or more AUGs in one squadron, the last time this was during the Gulf War. In this case, yes, equipment 1-2 is possible. destroyers in the squadron are purely in the shock version. And it is the multipurpose loading option that is widely used, since it is possible to change the filling only in ports, and since it is not known what the squadron will have to face without air defense, so no one will leave the squadron there. , this does not mean that it will be really possible this way.

[Eldorado]

Who was cracking? There were no statements from the main command or representatives of Sevmash. The date of the launch is an invention of TASS.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

And because you don't have to pop ahead of time.

One of the ways to dunk the brains of a potential enemy. To not know when and what to expect, but only constantly expressed "concern".

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Victor_B

Does anyone remember that something was handed over on time?

How can you do in time what no one has ever done?
In the course of project execution, certain inconsistencies may emerge. This is normal. Therefore, I think you should not worry about the transfer of launching.
In addition, Sevmash did not officially speak about the timing.
Haste in such matters is not a good thing.

[Eldorado]

Yes, no one has endured anything. Information about the timing of the descent is classified. And these are just unfulfilled fantasies of some "sources" of our media.

[Magic archer]

Hmm ... Or maybe everything is already being tested and this is all a duck for the secret services of sworn friends ?? I think there is such an option

[rocket757]

The launching dates of the regular Poseidon carrier were postponed

Such a weapon for an emergency. Although without them, everyone and everywhere is level with the ground.

[1Alexey]

Quote: rocket757

The launching dates of the regular Poseidon carrier were postponed

Such a weapon for an emergency. Although without them, everyone and everywhere is level with the ground.

You're right! There is no particular urgency with him.
The available nuclear weapons as a deterrent (it is unlikely to come to their actual use) will certainly be enough for the next decade.

This is a long-term weapon, so you can calmly (without much haste) bring it to mind.
And, given that the nuclear submarine Belgorod will soon be adopted for service, then with Khabarovsk, there is no need to rush to arrange it.

[rocket757]

This is not the only "answer" to the challenges that will appear in the future.

[Popandos]

With the heads in the series, it is almost always so bad, and not only with ships. One hope that it will not develop into a long-term construction.

[Woodman]

a source in the defense industry complex said.

but this is also according to the source

Oh, these "sources" ... He said it himself, he transferred it himself ... Officially, who announced the timing of the timing? If not, then there is nothing to discuss.

The press is content with either official statements or rumors

[alexey2073]

The launching dates of the regular Poseidon carrier were postponed

Is this news? Nothing new. This has already become commonplace. When some deadlines are announced, you can safely add a year or two. Unfortunately...

[Eldorado]

Such information is classified. And this is just the verbiage of some "sources" of our media.

[Yuriy71]

In the current military-political situation - every month is dear! These constant transfers of everything and everyone are outright Sabotage !!! Stalin would have "appraised" such work! Again, we will not be ready, as always !!!

[Eldorado]

Such information is classified. And this is just the verbiage of some "sources" of our media.

[1Alexey]

Quote: Yuriy71

In the current military-political situation - every month is dear!

Such an assessment is not for the Poseidons and their carriers - this is a long-term weapon, but with regard to delays, for example, with the Yasen-M, such an assessment would be appropriate.

[viktor.]

Not up to the Poseidons now, Sowing! Autumn is just right!

[Prisoner]

It happens. Sometimes even the plans for the day are not completely fulfilled. Well, while "well-wishers" and their bores can still take away the darling. Take it away for now. Remember how the "partners" had fun about the "cartoons"? We watched the "cartoons" and had fun, as they showed in real life we ​​sobbed.

[Prisoner]

So the "well-wishers" pulled themselves up. What's so little?

[Cowbra]

Tarapizza ninada. Well, its nafig with the input of unfinished things. Haste only when catching fleas is good. A classic example - KS-46 Pegasus - the United States to this day cannot finish, but they need it like air, and all because of haste. There is no way to thoughtfully design a tanker - just for the sake of speed - they decided to saw through a passenger Boeing. And that's all. He's still a passenger, not a transport - roughly similar, but in fact - a little, but does not climb. A little bit not scary - we thought at the beginning, now they are emptying them out - either the required tanks do not fit, then the operator has nowhere to put - well, it's true, the filling operator is the most unnecessary member of the crew
Well, him, there is no war yet, at 41 it was important to do at least something - yes to the front right away, there is no time to finish

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Cowbra

Tarapizza ninada. Well, its nafig with the input of unfinished things. Haste only when catching fleas is good. A classic example - KS-46 Pegasus - the United States to this day cannot finish, but they need it like air, and all because of haste. There is no way to thoughtfully design a tanker - just for the sake of speed - they decided to saw through a passenger Boeing. And that's all. He's still a passenger, not a transport - roughly similar, but in fact - a little, but does not climb. A little bit not scary - we thought at the beginning, now they are emptying them out - either the required tanks do not fit, then the operator has nowhere to put - well, it's true, the filling operator is the most unnecessary member of the crew
Well, him, there is no war yet, at 41 it was important to do at least something - yes to the front right away, there is no time to finish

The problems, as I understand it, they have eliminated.
In the first quarter of 2021, 2 units have already been delivered to the Air Force.
Accelerate.

[Cowbra]

Quote: SovAr238A

The problems, as I understand it, they have eliminated.

W-well ... The top two, as the operator sees the barbell:

Oh, KS-46 ... It ended my work on the Boeing. It was a complete disaster. If you knew at least half of what I know, you would be shocked. Boeing will win nothing for this program, not a penny (there is a so-called “fixed price” contract). First, the airframe of the aircraft is based on the 767-400 cargo version. Let me ask you. They know it’s not so, but it’s written in the specifications ... Secondly, do you know what was the first blow of fate? The fact that someone initially did not calculate the volume of the cargo compartment - but will it accommodate the containers with fuel declared in the contract? Oops, the cargo hold is too small. As a result, instead of adapting the aircraft, we are engaged in a complete redesign! The deck of the compartment goes down, the fuselage set is altered, partitions are moved apart, all protruding little things are removed ... As a result, the tanks are hardly placed in the salon. And there is even a free space that workers in the plant could squeeze past the tanks to mount them in the compartment. Shit! And, you probably want a pilot in winter arctic uniforms to squeeze through in order to dismantle the tanks in an hour [according to the standard]? Good news for you, then: we have floor panels that can be lifted and launched head-down by the crew member's legs to unload the tank mountings ... Are you going to save a lot on existing systems and assemblies? But excuse me, they do not correspond to the draft design - which is handwritten and contains a lot of mistakes! You will have to redo them! Don't worry, we've worked this way for decades. We use assembly schemes, according to which the factories work without errors! Yes, but your assembly diagrams say "install to drawing" and a link to freehand drawings that do not meet any of the specifications on a Boeing! Well, then you probably have to get the designers to work 7 days a week for 8 months! Don't worry, we will fire them immediately after completing the work! And so you can go on ...

Not fixed. Design feature - only a new fuselage to do. Well, literally 2-3 days ago, we found out that they are flooded with gomnom if they are not flying near the base. Do you need a toilet?

When used in "overseas deployment" one of the tanks must be replaced with a universal life support tray - "kitchen-toilet" (usually they combine a bath with a toilet, but they have their own troubles). Due to the non-standard bracing system, the kitchen-toilet tray can only be installed sideways in the cabin (turned 90 degrees). As a result, with such an installation, the check valve does not work in the toilet, and during takeoff and landing of the KS-46A, the contents of the "bucket of honey" are poured into the aircraft cabin ...

This, however, was eliminated. Do you think the last joint won't come up yet?

[Piramidon]

The press is content with either official statements or rumors.

No official statements

Traditionally, Sevmash does not comment on such news, so there is no official information.

So this whole article is nothing more than rumors from some regular mythical "unnamed sources". And what then is there to discuss and break spears?

[Bez 310]

Somehow, many were excited by the news about the "carrier" of some "Poseidons" ... And what are these "Poseidons", who saw them, who knows anything about them?

[frog]

Why know something to shout "URRAA !!" ?? You can shout for any reason ... Nobody is shouting about the terrible beast of EGSONPO))) Many have already forgotten it, but how many delights there were ...

[Vadim237]

"EGSONPO" - What the hell is this?

[frog]

This is not crap, this is a state program with a healthy budget. The budget is gone, just as there is no such "crap". Everything is as usual.

[Vadim237]

I believe that Poseidon is a robotic mini-submarine - a kamikaze underwater drone with a strategic nuclear charge.

[Tests]

Oh, these sources in the military-industrial complex! Either "Belgorod" will be called "Antey", then "Poseidons" of "Khabarovsk" will be drawn in the 1st compartment, like torpedoes on our first nuclear submarines. SJC, then what was not drawn in the 1st compartment of "Khabarovsk", as on the first "Kazan" - pr. "Axon-2"? Or are specialists in the Russian Federation in hydroacoustics extinct? And the revolving type, as on the Tu-160, under 6 Poseidons each, which launchers were not painted in the 4th and 5th compartments? And on the sides, as on the "Antaeus", for the "Harpsichords" and "Zircons" containers why not draw? You keep wondering: why the steamer "Belgorod" is so long and wide, and the photo in the floating dock "Sukhona" in the water area of ​​SEVMASH is adding this order to the Internet? Could Soviet submariners have fired from aft torpedo tubes back in the 30s of the last century? What about the 650 mm aft torpedo tubes on the "Belgorod" did not remember? And at "Khabarovsk"? And why did they decide that the Sarov, interacting with the Belgorod and Khabarovsk, carries less than 3 special ammunition? The media of the Russian Federation did not recall in vain about the new rubber on the light hulls of nuclear submarines, why don't you write about towed antennas on unmanned aerial vehicles?
And, most importantly, who and when from the officials of the country or the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation named the deadlines for the completion of this order? And this is called "TASS reports"? Oh, their sources ...

[Xscorpion]

... , said a source in the defense industry. The autumn of this year was named new terms, without specifying specific dates. The source did not name the reason for the postponement of the ceremony for several months. Earlier, the launch of the "Khabarovsk" was planned in May, but this is also according to the source

In general, everything is from the words of the source. The source himself invented the date, he himself transferred it. He's also paid money for such information, so he comes up with it on the go.