British Navy: F-35 fighters from an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea are ready at any time to support the ships of the British Navy in the Black Sea

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The British Department of Defense has named the types of warships that will enter the Black Sea. Earlier it was reported that it will be a frigate and destroyer of the Royal Navy. The information was confirmed. At the same time, it is specified that Britain will send a Type 45 destroyer with a displacement of 7,5 thousand tons and a Type 28 frigate with a displacement of about 5 thousand tons to the Black Sea water area.

Frigates of the British naval forces of this type are armed with American Harpoon anti-ship missiles and British-made Sea Wolf anti-aircraft missile systems.



Modern destroyers Type 45 carry on board the PAAMS air defense missile system with a maximum range of 80 km to an aerodynamic target, the Phalanx CIWS shipborne anti-aircraft artillery system, which is used to destroy anti-aircraft missiles with a speed of no more than Mach 2.



In the British press, citing the military command of the United Kingdom, it is said that the F-35 fighters on board the aircraft carrier "Queen Elizabeth" will be "on high alert."

From a British Navy post:

F-35 stealth fighters from the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea are ready to support the British Navy ships in the Black Sea at any time.

It should be noted that the British Navy aircraft carrier itself is indeed located in the Mediterranean Sea. Initially, he was sent to the Pacific Ocean "to contain the Chinese Navy."

It turns out that with the help of one aircraft carrier group, London is trying to "contain" both Russia and China. But since it is impossible in principle to do this at the same time, they decided to leave China for later. In the meantime, the F-35s are "combat-ready" only "in the direction" of the Black Sea.

British press:

While the Defense Department insists that pre-planned deployments are common, they are taking place at a time of heightened fears of conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Russian troops are accumulating along the border, against this backdrop, clashes in eastern Ukraine between the army and pro-Russian separatists.

The Reuters news agency recalled that a few days earlier, President Joe Biden refused to send US Navy warships to the Black Sea after a telephone conversation with Vladimir Putin.
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  1. +13
    April 19 2021 08: 14
    "Penguins" have nothing to do in the Black Sea - they will die.
    This is not their "climatic conditions". negative bully
    1. +11
      April 19 2021 08: 24
      Well, the penguin is a proud bird, until you kick it - it won't fly!
      1. +4
        April 19 2021 08: 35
        Quote: Victor_B
        penguin

        A penguin is a swallow that ate after 1800! laughing
        1. +5
          April 19 2021 08: 45
          And what is the flight time of penguins to the wreck of two ships of His Majesty?
          1. +11
            April 19 2021 08: 49
            Quote: Mitroha
            And what is the flight time of penguins to the wreck of two ships of His Majesty?


            They won't have enough range to fly from the Mediterranean to the Black Sea and back. Bluff.
            1. +1
              April 19 2021 08: 51
              Quote: OrangeBigg
              Quote: Mitroha
              And what is the flight time of penguins to the wreck of two ships of His Majesty?


              They won't have enough range to fly from the Mediterranean to the Black Sea and back. Bluff.

              Maybe gentlemen kamikaze?
              1. +6
                April 19 2021 09: 14
                Most likely they want to get rid of the F-35 completely, so they found a reason to do it.

                The F-35B Lightning II, the fifth-generation short-take-off and vertical landing fighter, is devastating the British Ministry of Defense, General Richard Dunnat, who headed the General Staff of the country's Armed Forces (AF) in 2006-2009, reports to The Mirror.


                According to him, the cost of one F-35B Lightning II is 80 million pounds (more than 110 million dollars) with a flight hour price reaching 90 thousand pounds (over 125 thousand dollars).

                According to the military, such spending "will distort the defense budget for decades," and the British Army will be the losers.

                “The Russians are laughing at us, the Americans are shaking their heads,” the military said, speaking about the combat readiness of the British Armed Forces.

                https://m.lenta.ru/news/2021/03/16/f35b/
                1. +4
                  April 19 2021 12: 26
                  ready at any time to support the ships of the British Navy in the Black Sea
                  Support in what? This is not an idle question.
                  I remembered the film In war as in war. "... Look, the self-propelled guns have dragged along! .. And what about? .. For support! ... To support what, trousers?"
                  1. +1
                    April 21 2021 14: 45
                    "British Navy: F-35 fighters from an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean are ready at any time to support the ships of the British Navy in the Black Sea"

                    Well, well, let them try to "contain" and "support"! Only if they are very impudent to climb, then they have a chance to be pinched and get on the horns! And "modern destroyers" and "stealth"! lol
            2. +1
              April 19 2021 11: 36
              Quote: OrangeBigg
              Quote: Mitroha
              And what is the flight time of penguins to the wreck of two ships of His Majesty?


              They won't have enough range to fly from the Mediterranean to the Black Sea and back. Bluff.

              There are NATO countries - Greece, Bulgaria, Romania .. These will be happy to please the British ... All the more for the money ... But the English did not take into account that there are our planes and ships in Syria. Yes, and in the sky of the Black Sea, our VKS dominate ... Anglam just to pick up a svidoukriya .. Type -Don't be afraid. Forward, we are standing behind your back ... Just did not add that we are standing on ATAS ... If the first ones to pull home ...
            3. 0
              April 19 2021 12: 10
              Quote: OrangeBigg
              They won't have enough range

              Well, if only the tankers are hanging, then they can.
      2. 0
        April 19 2021 08: 53
        The Brit has a version of the F-35B and has a shorter range than the F-35A. Accordingly, air refueling will be required. I strongly doubt that Perdogan will allow the Brits to refuel over his territory.
    2. 0
      April 19 2021 08: 31
      How will they support? The life rafts will be thrown off them or something. Or maybe they think we'll take them on board. By the way, is there a case in modern history when a warship was taken on board and taken away as a prize?
      1. +2
        April 19 2021 08: 47
        Quote: Vol4ara
        By the way, is there not a case in modern history when a warship was taken on board and taken away as a prize?

        Have you had any accidents at a construction site? Not? Will be. © laughing
      2. 0
        April 19 2021 09: 54
        Quote: Vol4ara
        By the way, is there not a case in modern history when a warship was taken on board and taken away as a prize?

        The British scored twice during 2WW. 1940 - The destroyer Kossak boarded the supply vessel Altmark. 1941 - off Cape Matapan, the destroyer Jervis boarded the Italian heavy cruiser Pola, immobilized in battle.
    3. +1
      April 19 2021 09: 35
      According to the latest information, "Lizka" is somewhere near Scotland, she again has problems with the fire extinguishing system. How and when she will be able to sail to Mediterranean is a big question)))
      1. 0
        April 20 2021 00: 44
        Quote: TermNachTER
        According to the latest information, "Lizka" is somewhere near Scotland, she again has problems with the fire extinguishing system.

        why are you so pessimistic? No. well worth the hell where, well, broken, so what? they can support it! for example, the sophisticated British humor on the air. wink
        1. 0
          April 26 2021 12: 11
          Humor is certainly good, but a faulty fire extinguishing system on an aircraft carrier, which itself can catch fire, without outside help - this is not a reason for humor, even the British))) however, it makes me happy.
    4. 0
      April 19 2021 14: 22
      Quote: prior
      "Penguins" have nothing to do in the Black Sea - they will die.
      This is not their "climatic conditions". negative bully

      that's not the point.
      with the load and range that they have from the deck, these aircraft cannot help ships that are near the Crimea in any way. This is one of the main problems of the penguin - even in the land version, it does not have a sufficient range.
      And from the deck, he can fly relatively far only with a minimum combat load - for example, 2 sidewinder missiles, i.e. useless.
  2. +4
    April 19 2021 08: 21
    Grandmother thought, thought, and out of grief decided to distract the British from stirring up the dirty linen of her family .. "a little war" with Russia ..
    1. 0
      April 19 2021 08: 28
      Yeah, the underwear got out unsightly, so they will try to provoke
    2. +3
      April 19 2021 08: 31
      Quote: Dikson
      Grandmother thought, thought, and out of grief decided to distract the British from stirring up the dirty linen of her family .. "a little war" with Russia ..

      Something Putin said to Bidon that he refused to enter ships into the Black Sea.

      Maybe he should talk to his grandmother? recourse
    3. +1
      April 19 2021 08: 31
      Maybe they just decided to try it in the shoes of "Donald Cook"?
  3. -4
    April 19 2021 08: 22
    Something "strategists" near the UK do not fly. Looks like they are worried about their relatives.
    And it would not hurt to make TRAINING overflights of yet another "Arctic" power.
  4. 0
    April 19 2021 08: 22
    So let's see what the hanging penguins are capable of. Students of Timur Avtandilovich Apokidze will arrange for Kuzkin's mother. As he arranged for them, pressing in two F 18 to the stormy sea.
    1. +1
      April 19 2021 15: 20
      Apakidze is spelled correctly.
      1. +1
        April 19 2021 15: 32
        Sorry for the grammatical error.
  5. 0
    April 19 2021 08: 26
    Pretty bold. Risking a single aircraft carrier? Anyway, this is pure gamble. From the British side ...
    1. +1
      April 19 2021 09: 09
      They do not risk anything, so the role of an extra is not dangerous.
    2. -3
      April 19 2021 11: 10
      Who's at risk? Around friends from NATO. And the firepower of the "Cook" of the Yankes surpasses the entire Caspian flotilla. It's easy to count .. Some "axes" sea-based in the Mediterranean Sea. a lot.
  6. +6
    April 19 2021 08: 32
    F-35 fighters from an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea are ready at any time to support the ships of the British Navy in the Black Sea

    If they fly, they will fly, but how they will return or not will depend on their behavior.

    1. -7
      April 19 2021 10: 11
      Quote: Boris55
      F-35 fighters from an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea are ready at any time to support the ships of the British Navy in the Black Sea

      If they fly, they will fly, but how they will return or not will depend on their behavior.


      Has the curvature of the earth's surface been canceled?
      1. +5
        April 19 2021 11: 05
        Quote: professor
        Has the curvature of the earth's surface been canceled?

        And if you consider that the data on the air defense missile system is received from both satellites and early warning stations?



        We have already created a unified defense system and the "artificial intelligence" chooses which target will get to whom.
        1. -4
          April 19 2021 12: 18
          Quote: Boris55
          And if you consider that the data on the air defense missile system is received from both satellites and early warning stations?

          Yes? Data on a single plane invisible? No one has, but you have. I will not even ask how it happened then that you did not notice the attacks of the Americans on Syria if you can see the planes from the satellites.

          Quote: Boris55
          We have already created a unified defense system and the "artificial intelligence" chooses which target will get to whom.

          wassat
          1. +2
            April 19 2021 14: 27
            Quote: professor
            you did not notice the strikes of the Americans in Syria

            first, be correct. According to you, it turns out that at the base in Syria they were drinking and
            did not notice either the bombing or its consequences.
            secondly, there is a segment radar coverage and the United States and Israel have been analyzing the relief for more than one day in order to understand where the planes will not be exposed to radiation.
            third, the base in Syria is isolated and poorly covered by fixed monitoring stations.
            fourthly, what episode are we talking about?
            and fifth, why do you react to stupid pathos? Or do you have arguments of the same level?
            1. -3
              April 19 2021 15: 48
              Quote: yehat2
              first, be correct. According to you, it turns out that at the base in Syria they were drinking and
              did not notice either the bombing or its consequences.

              I didn't write that. Especially about "booze". Your officials complained about the "curvature of the earth's surface."

              Quote: yehat2
              secondly, there is a segment radar coverage and the United States and Israel have been analyzing the relief for more than one day in order to understand where the planes will not be exposed to radiation.

              Here I am about it. No satellites helped.

              Quote: yehat2
              third, the base in Syria is isolated and poorly covered by fixed monitoring stations.

              1. What prevents you from covering it well?
              2. The satellites did not help.

              Quote: yehat2
              fourthly, what episode are we talking about?

              ... and how do you get into a conversation if you don't know what it is about? wink

              Quote: yehat2
              and fifth, why do you react to stupid pathos? Or do you have arguments of the same level?

              Having fun.
      2. 0
        April 19 2021 13: 44
        What is the curvature here? Do you think the F35 will go on low level flight? Do you think it will help them !?
  7. 0
    April 19 2021 08: 34
    British Navy: F-35 fighters from an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea are ready at any time to support the ships of the British Navy in the Black Sea
    ... So that chatter about nothing ... but the skakuas are pushed, stimulated and .... the usual tactics of a cat ragged!
    They need kurtosis to blame Russia and build fences around ... iron fences, of which it doesn't matter. Divide, over and over.
    1. 0
      April 19 2021 10: 41
      Or maybe the rumors about an American boat that made its way into the Black Sea are not really rumors? And if the Pentagon suddenly "changed its mind" to start its own, then it could well have asked Her Majesty's Royal Navy to cover this fox in the chicken coop with its two ships?
      1. 0
        April 19 2021 11: 13
        Like, the rest, local, soyuznichki no longer trust?
        1. -1
          April 19 2021 11: 43
          The rest of the rank did not come out ...
  8. -1
    April 19 2021 08: 36
    Britain will send a Type 45 destroyer with a displacement of 7,5 thousand tons and a Type 28 frigate with a displacement of about 5 thousand tons to the Black Sea waters.

    probably type 23
  9. +2
    April 19 2021 08: 37
    all they are ready to do is fly a little ... requesting permission to fly and with transponders ... BUT the Russian air defense will not leave them any chances to survive if something goes wrong))) ... but of course you can ...
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  11. +1
    April 19 2021 08: 47
    Will they fly to the Black Sea?
  12. +2
    April 19 2021 09: 17
    The radius of the deck version of the F-35 is about 800 km (it is still questionable how much it can carry when fully refueled). Those. to work from the Mediterranean Sea, the radius is not enough (about the joy of countries over which armed aircraft of other states will be worn), and at the entrance to the Black Sea - Avik is a cool target and will not last long ...
    1. +1
      April 19 2021 09: 31
      Quote: Vitaminchik05
      The radius of the deck version of the F-35 is about 800 km (it is still questionable how much it can carry, when fully refueled). Those. there is not enough radius for working from the Mediterranean

      They'll get it out of the Aegean. Closely to the aircraft carrier among the islands, but, possibly, they will get out.
  13. -5
    April 19 2021 09: 20
    Do these ships have CDs on board? If there is, then I will upset our patriots hurray, such a ship can safely cover any coastal battery straight from the Mediterranean Sea, and if it enters the Black Sea, then its Air Force can also support from Bulgaria or Romania by flying from Cyprus
    1. +1
      April 19 2021 12: 54
      Similarly, these two ships, ours can cover the KR or the same Daggers, because the MiG-31K with Daggers on board is located very nearby. The British were embarrassed to send the aircraft carrier to the Black Sea, and they sent 2 of their ships to the slaughter. They do not feel sorry for them, unlike an aircraft carrier. It is noteworthy that the Americans did not send their ships for slaughter, but transferred this honorable role to Great Britain. This already says a lot.
      1. -1
        April 19 2021 13: 13
        Of course the shootout will be ...
        But what would be so shaved for fools to keep like you? I would not risk it, the brits are smart and experienced sailors, history does not know the stupid behavior of the British at sea
        As for the aircraft carrier in the Black Sea, I know that this is also not an easy target, depending on where the position is? The Black Sea is not so small. And 500 km for any missile pc is a lot, with every ten km the accuracy decreases, and the resistance of the RB is growing
        1. 0
          April 19 2021 13: 49
          The accuracy of what is decreasing? Guided missiles !?
          1. 0
            April 19 2021 14: 18
            Well, I don’t know how accurate they are, but in 1983, from Syria, they sniffed at an aircraft carrier ... It seemed like it was 250 km away ...
            1. 0
              April 19 2021 14: 43
              The Houthis also did not hit an American destroyer quite recently, but they did hit the HSV-2 Swift. But we are not discussing the Syrians and the Houthis, are we?
              1. -1
                April 19 2021 14: 57
                In the USSR army it was still possible to count on literacy, but now the generation is stupid
                1. 0
                  April 19 2021 15: 06
                  In 83, I left the army from the institute, trained in Chebar, got a junior. sergeant continued to serve in the GSVG, and so then 75% of people from the southern republics served, what do you know about the literacy of urgently conscripted military personnel in the USSR? Don't touch the current generation, they are not all the same either!
                  1. 0
                    April 19 2021 15: 19
                    Stupid for sure, before 3 soldiers in the forest were left to harvest round timber for a week and everything was OK, schA left 2 almost died, one ran away
                    Where was the equipment I had Lieutenants 2 X year olds were from Baumansky
                    The hydrograph for 7 months one left the Hawaiian course lost, the minders themselves sorted out the chassis, and now minders everywhere kill the chassis at once and the tug goes behind the bpc ... Warriors hi
                    1. 0
                      April 19 2021 15: 41
                      So you send the majors with the colonels into the forest to harvest round timber, it will be more fun, but you don’t need to substitute conscripts!
                      As for the turbine bulkhead, you got really excited, and screw up the diesel engine - this was in the 80s at a time, do not forget that the conscripts did not study to be minders, for this service life is not enough. We had drivers who could not even drive, what kind of engine device could he find out about?
                      1. -1
                        April 19 2021 15: 50
                        Oh, tell me about the minders, they sorted it out and restored the course, the tug never followed, there was already enough knowledge, dt 75 in the 8th grade was sorted out and served for 3 years ...
                      2. +1
                        April 19 2021 16: 05
                        And you try to sort out the new engines, can you change the blades on the turbine? Well, or "shamanize" the rudder installation? Or adjust the gearbox from the turbine to the propellers?
                        The times were not the same, yes, we were sorting out the main engine on the RS-33, when the sleeve burst, it was even possible to sort out the high-pressure fuel pump and press the nozzles, but this is all already the last century and will not help.
                  2. Aag
                    0
                    April 19 2021 16: 01
                    The conversation is not about conscripts ...
  14. +3
    April 19 2021 09: 34
    A good target for the operation of our facilities located in Syria.
  15. +2
    April 19 2021 10: 02
    Duc, that's good. We were told so at the CWP lesson. Everyone is good ... And the island lion, which has faded from time to time, should publicly demonstrate the presence of the long-awaited new artificial jaw prosthesis. And the Russian Armed Forces, to really look at the quality of this remake. Compare, for one, with the fact that the same Tel Aviv already has in the air ... And so, the opportunity for our MiG-31, which is on experimental combat duty, for training, to wave "Daggers". The target is just for them. Moreover, the "last Tudorsha", in terms of her performance characteristics and the composition of the carrier-based air group, is a "multi-purpose" lady, not a "striker". The escort, I suppose, is more modest. And "target sizes" too. In a word, there is a reason, first of all, to assess, not how the islanders "can us" in the waters of the World Cup. And how, we are them. All along the route, from Gibraltar to the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles ...
  16. 0
    April 19 2021 10: 57
    F-35s from an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea are ready at any time to support the ships of the British Navy in the Black Sea
    As I understand it, Russia and China, which the British also "restrain", need to be frightened. This is what the former "mistress of the seas" means - a pair of ships and the enemy trembles.
  17. 0
    April 19 2021 11: 42
    that it will be a frigate and destroyer of the Royal Navy.

    Is that right, without a hegemon, and will they enter? Alone! And won't they be scared?
    And it's also interesting how the F-35 with such a characteristic
    "Combat range without PTB and in-flight refueling -1080 km"
    they will be supported from Mediterranean.
  18. +1
    April 19 2021 13: 25
    With the head let them answer why the evil refused to shave on the purchase of 90 F35? when they are so dangerous and ready? laughing Better to keep silent, or maybe Elizabeth and transform into a submarine. laughing
  19. 0
    April 19 2021 13: 32
    To support! you first need to take off and fly, and in the event of an escalation, which I doubt very much
  20. 0
    April 19 2021 13: 40
    Bariska also needs to talk to Putin, maybe he will change his mind ...
    And the F-35, of course, is desirable to be supported, just you can remove the signature and look on the radar ...
  21. +1
    April 19 2021 13: 56
    Englishwoman crap))
  22. +1
    April 19 2021 14: 26
    There are no questions, these "invisibles" can fly to the Black Sea only in this way.
    The British probably dream of how F-35 units hover over Moscow, frighten the residents of St. Petersburg, and fly over the endless Volgograd steppes, frightening herds of wild antelopes. And there it is not far from the Urals ... I remember from history once there lived such a "great friend of the English people", either an Austrian, or a German, or someone else from distant relatives who loved to fly over the indicated area, and over the Crimea too. He ended badly only, exactly at the end of April, frightened to death by the cannonade of quite visible Russian cannons and "Katyusha". Mid-spring is generally an indicator of the mental health of some people.
  23. 0
    April 19 2021 15: 40
    And no one thought of asking them a question, what did they forget with their warships in the Black Sea?
  24. 0
    April 19 2021 19: 43
    Will they even fly from the Mediterranean to Black? How are they with the range? And why such confidence that someone will miss them, and not treat them with a rocket down the drain?
  25. 0
    April 20 2021 12: 22
    There is an error in the text. Frigate type 23