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Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation: Russia will withdraw from the ISS project in 2025

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It became known about Russia's intentions to withdraw from the ISS (International Space Station) project within the next few years. The corresponding statement was made by the Deputy Prime Minister of the country Yuri Borisov.


As the RIA News, Yuri Borisov pointed out that the exit from the ISS project will take place in 2025. According to the Deputy Prime Minister, this is due to the fact that Russian specialists will begin to create a domestic orbital space station.

The message says that the corresponding decision was made on April 12 during a meeting with the head of state.

It is noted that Russia will create its own orbital station, which will allow space research and experiments of various kinds.

In fact, this means that the full-fledged work of the ISS can be completed in the aforementioned 2025. After all, even if other countries decide to extend the life of the International Space Station, then without Russian specialists it will be a completely different project.

Yuri Borisov:

When we make a decision, then we will start negotiations with our partners on the conditions and forms of interaction after 2024

Earlier in Russia, a considerable number of experts noted that at one time a mistake was made - the refusal of their own space station. Recall that the Mir station was de-orbited and flooded in Pacific waters in 2001 - just 15 years after the start of operation. To date, the ISS has been in operation for 23 years. At the same time, the terms on the extension of the ISS mission were previously considered, first until 2024, then until 2030.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 18 2021 14: 45
    -8
    Why is that expected in light of recent events! How do you like Elon Musk?
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter April 18 2021 14: 55
      +4
      Roskosmos commented on the announcement of Russia's withdrawal from the ISS project
      MOSCOW, April 18 - RIA Novosti. The ISS modules have exhausted their service life, the station will operate until 2024, and the prospects for international cooperation are to be determined during negotiations, the press service of Roscosmos told RIA Novosti. We have agreed with the ISS partners the term of operation at the station - 2024. After that the decision will be made on the basis of the technical condition of the station modules, which have mostly expired their service life, as well as our plans to deploy a new generation national orbital service station.When we make a decision, then we will start negotiations with our partners on the conditions and forms of interaction after 2024, "the press service said.
      What does 2025 have to do with it? request
      1. military_cat
        military_cat April 18 2021 15: 13
        +17
        Quote: Stroporez
        We have a working period at the station agreed with our partners in the ISS - 2024. After this period, the decision will be made based on the technical condition of the station modules.

        Hmm, the news that there is no news, and the headline is for those who do not read the headline further.
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        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke April 18 2021 15: 44
          -3
          Quote: military_cat
          Hmm, the news that there is no news, and the headline is for those who do not read the headline further.

          Yes, if you continue to read, - one dregs.
          There are two ways to exit the project.
          1. "Slam the hatch" and sink your own and central blocks (like "Mir") together with those who do not have time to undock.
          2. Sell your blocks for the scrap price.
          Somehow everything looks like preparation for the second option.
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 April 18 2021 15: 23
        +5
        Probably because he is after 24)))
      3. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter April 18 2021 15: 29
        +5
        Quote: Stroporez
        What does 2025 have to do with it?

        So I think about the same thing. This year, a brand new module "Science" will be docked to the ISS. And when we leave the project, will we take it with us? Will be the base of our new station. wassat
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter April 18 2021 15: 37
          -1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          This year, a brand new module "Science" will be docked to the ISS. And when we leave the project, will we take it with us? Will be the base of our new station.

          Yeah, wonderful things are happening in the heads of various vice-chairmen and other drivers there, and sometimes it seems that he is talking in some kind of delirium, and then they learn about their words from news feeds. belay
        2. Mitroha
          Mitroha April 18 2021 16: 22
          +4
          This year, a brand new module "Science" will be docked to the ISS.
          It seems like infa slipped through that they would not dock, but used in a new COP. But I won't put my salary, because I don't remember the source
      4. slipped
        slipped April 18 2021 18: 42
        +9
        Quote: Stroporez
        What does 2025 have to do with it? request


        Year of the beginning of the construction of ROSS. In 2024, the launch of the NEM will take Nauka and Prichal from the ISS, which are flying there this year.
    2. xorek
      xorek April 18 2021 15: 10
      -20%
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Why is that expected in light of recent events! How do you like Elon Musk?

      I think this will all happen sooner, technically we will not have problems .. But the buddha mask will definitely have problems both NASA and our masqueraders from his sect laughing

      We'll see the guys for the reaction .. wink
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 April 18 2021 16: 17
        +1
        For some reason, there is no doubt that everything can happen earlier.
        For some reason only the Russian segment of the station is bursting at the seams and poisoning the air.
        What is the reason is unknown.
        Either the metal fatigue, which even Soloviev has already begun to refer to (it is not clear only why this fatigue is observed only in the exclusively Russian segment of the ISS).
        Or jewelry joints of Progress, in which the screens and antennas of the radio protection of the automatic docking system "Kurs" even bend, as was the case in July 2020 and February 2021.
        1. slipped
          slipped April 18 2021 18: 50
          +5
          Quote: Cosm22
          For some reason only the Russian segment of the station is bursting at the seams and poisoning the air.


          Stupidly continue to drive bullshit? laughing The American segment also hounds. And the crack in the Star PrK is less than a millimeter. "He's bursting at the seams," you know ... laughing

          Quote: Cosm22
          What is the reason is unknown.


          Really. laughing

          Quote: Cosm22
          Or jewelry joints of Progress, in which the screens and antennas of the radio protection of the automatic docking system "Kurs" even bend, as was the case in July 2020 and February 2021.


          The antennas on Progress were bent as a result of a change in the technology for the production of the inner coating of the head fairings at the sub-assemblies. Everything has already been corrected. laughing
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 April 18 2021 19: 07
            -5
            1. Stop lying.
            Where, by whom and when were the official data on the leak in the American sector published?
            This funny version was put forward only by Rogozin in December 2020. After the cracks were found only in the Russian segment, the question disappeared. Even Rogozin's. He no longer stutters about it. In an official statement from the Houston Mission Control Center, it was said: "No air leak was found in the American part of the International Space Station."
            2. And ??? Any counterarguments? There is nothing to say - it is better to remain silent.
            3. I know this very well. What's next? How will this help the station after "everything has been corrected" if the cracks were really caused by the impacts of Progress on the docking station?
            1. slipped
              slipped April 18 2021 19: 43
              +4
              Quote: Cosm22
              Where, by whom and when were the official data on the leak in the American sector published?


              Shiz? laughing The station is always poisoning, in any segment. She has such a peculiarity. That is why gases are regularly delivered to the station to replenish the air. It is only in kreaklov that gases are poisoned by themselves. laughing

              Quote: Cosm22
              This funny version was put forward only by Rogozin in December 2020.


              What does Rogozin have to do with it? Look at Solovyov. Read the manual for the station.

              Quote: Cosm22
              In an official statement from the Houston Mission Control Center, it was said: "No air leak was found in the American section of the International Space Station."


              Here it is desirable to add - a larger than usual leak. laughing And so, yes, it was not found. And the air just evaporates regularly. lol

              Quote: Cosm22
              2. And ??? Any counterarguments? There is nothing to say - it is better to remain silent.


              The main crack less than a millimeter in size was closed up. Air losses have decreased three times. The rest will close up as they get to them. This is not critical at all for the station. Do you still not understand this with your mind? laughing

              Quote: Cosm22
              3. I know this very well. What's next? How will this help the station after "everything has been corrected"


              Then what are you talking about nonsense about "antennas bent from impacts on the station"? laughing Have you started talking?

              Quote: Cosm22
              if the cracks were really caused by the impacts of Progress on the docking station?


              There, to that junction, previously a regular 20-ton ATV moored, as many as five ships were. And the weight of Progress is 7 tons. What "blows" of Progress are you talking about ?! Tin in general.
              1. Cosm22
                Cosm22 April 18 2021 20: 22
                -8
                1. What, demagogue, didn’t realize that we are talking about UNNORMAL leaks? It's time to feel sorry for the person.
                2. If it were not critical, then Soloviev would not have expressed himself so categorically. But for some reason, the ROK instantly lost the prospects of extending its work on the ISS until 2030, which was so proudly trumpeted. All of a sudden, their tongues bitten at once, as if by magic. Probably because as you say with your own mind you understood that the situation is not critical for the station, things are fine?
                3. Docking docking strife. I have not heard that the Signus "from a running start" docked, like Progress. Give me another batch of noodles that it was ATV-3 that caused cracks in the spacecraft during the orbit correction test. Progress that does it regularly, clear stump, has nothing to do with it. Their orbit correction and the resulting cyclic loads do not cause metal fatigue in the module. A Russian truck with the best Russian metal in the world cannot do it. It is not tight.
                1. hrych
                  hrych April 18 2021 21: 37
                  +5
                  Quote: Cosm22
                  NON-STANDARD leaks

                  Such a loud expression is fraught with emergency evacuation. wassat
                  Quote: Cosm22
                  extending their work on the ISS until 2030

                  Those. you are floating in space, and what on earth do you not notice? This is how the cruel economic and sanctions war is going on. Cooperation is curtailed and a round of a new arms race begins. Having completely failed hypersound, etc., the Americans have one chance to try to level the situation - by placing nuclear weapons in space. Here there is no time for profits and no time for joint, profitable projects. I will also give you some advice on super heavy rockets. There is no question of any Moon. This is a cover. The Russian Federation has a compact nuclear power plant of high power and in the near future powerful combat stations will be deployed, but the Americans, who do not have a compact nuclear power plant, will need to throw big, good old reactors, and preferably not on LEO. If they don't, they will lose ... The planet. Laser and EMP guns need energy, railguns need energy, and maneuvering on electric propulsion engines requires energy. Only YSU can provide sufficient energy in orbit for these devices. Therefore, the larger Saturn-5, the masked giant, won the tender to lift into orbit ... the reactor of the Virginia nuclear submarine. Now let's laugh, blame it on science fiction, on conspiracy theory, etc.
                2. slipped
                  slipped April 18 2021 22: 18
                  +4
                  Quote: Cosm22
                  1. What, demagogue, didn’t realize that we are talking about UNNORMAL leaks? It's time to feel sorry for the person.


                  Take pity on yourself. I see that it is already shaking. laughing

                  Leaks are not standard or abnormal. They are dangerous to astronauts or not. The leak in the PrK is not dangerous and is successfully eliminated.

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  2. If it were not critical, then Soloviev would not have expressed himself so categorically. But for some reason, the ROK instantly lost the prospects of extending its work on the ISS until 2030, which was so proudly trumpeted.


                  How much? The ISS warranty for ALL modules expired in 2017. Now this is the only way - without a guarantee. laughing

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  Probably because as you say with your own mind you understood that the situation is not critical for the station, things are fine?


                  The latter is common, i.e. the heads of Roscosmos and NASA, the decision on the ISS - its operation until 2024. In this case, the station will exceed its warranty period by 7 years.

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  3. Docking docking strife. I have not heard that the Signus "from a running start" docked, like Progress.


                  He can't do that. Physically. But Cru Dragon can. With a running start. Barely the hatch was opened.

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  Give me another batch of noodles that it was ATV-3 that caused cracks in the spacecraft during the orbit correction test.


                  Do not indulge in your innuendo by inventing my answers for yourself. laughing

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  Progress that does it regularly, clear stump, has nothing to do with it.


                  They do the correction with a running start ?! belay What a nightmare. laughing

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  A Russian truck with the best Russian metal in the world cannot do it. It is not tight.


                  After all, how itching is, and laughing Already AMg6 is disliked and worrisome. laughing
    3. credo
      credo April 18 2021 15: 11
      +6
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Why is that expected in light of recent events! How do you like Elon Musk?

      Not knowing the backstage of our relationship on the ISS with the so-called. "partners", but following the picture on TV, one may really get the impression that we just have love-carrots with them there, but it looks like this is not so.
      Nobody talks about how many secrets Russia revealed to the Anglo-Saxons in terms of the creation of the ISS in terms of the simplicity of its soul, but the limit of joint "fruitful cooperation" has already come.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 18 2021 15: 35
        -16%
        Quote: credo
        Nobody talks about how many secrets Russia revealed to the Anglo-Saxons in terms of the creation of the ISS in terms of the simplicity of its soul, but the limit of joint "fruitful cooperation" has already come.

        You are very discerning .. hi We are simply tired of rolling them into space at our own expense and providing them with toilets, and they still condemn us and impose sanctions on us .. It's time to separate, Yura has been looking at us with condemnation for a long time, together with Korolyov .. angry
        Young people probably do not already know that the first space station was also Soviet, like the first cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin !! And this ISS was created on the basis of this .. hi We need to separate, we will pull it ourselves or we'd better launch the Chinese into the project .. hi
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 April 18 2021 16: 33
          -2
          At your own expense?
          Don't confuse anything?
          Those. Was it not Roskosmos that pulled an exorbitant $ 90 million from an American for a seat in the Union, but NASA from a Russian?
          The maintenance of toilets is carried out by the Russians in accordance with a previously concluded contract, what and to whom are the claims?
          However, there is very little time left for science. For in addition to work under the aforementioned contract, the Russian crew has recently been busy looking for new cracks in its segment and trying to patch them up.
          “As before, a lot of time is spent on service operations on the ISS RS. Thus, the crew spent 579 hours 20 minutes on maintenance of the ISS RS (including repair and restoration work) during the flight, which is 25,3% of the total actual operating time. time, according to an article published in the journal CTC "Manned space flights."
          With regard to the Chinese, it would not hurt to ask their opinion first. Perhaps after they build their OS.
          1. slipped
            slipped April 18 2021 18: 57
            -2
            Quote: Cosm22
            Those. it was not Roskosmos that pulled an exorbitant $ 90 million from an American for a seat in the Union


            Half a year in orbit is that much. By the way, we continue to tear them up, only through the merchants. laughing

            Quote: Cosm22
            and NASA from a Russian?


            We do not buy someone else's equipment, we have our own.

            Quote: Cosm22
            The maintenance of toilets is carried out by the Russians in accordance with a previously concluded contract, what and to whom are the claims?


            It's hard without toilets on the ISS AS. Wed .. I have to go into space. laughing They even brought their own. Jo .. they say they are freezing. laughing

            Quote: Cosm22
            However, there is very little time left for science. For in addition to work under the aforementioned contract, the Russian crew has recently been busy looking for new cracks in its segment and trying to patch them up.


            One is looking for, the other is engaged in science at this time and even blogs on the net. What has not been completed will be completed by another crew.

            Quote: Cosm22
            With regard to the Chinese, it would not hurt to ask their opinion first. Perhaps after they build their OS.


            We have long-term and mutually beneficial cooperation with the Chinese.
            1. Cosm22
              Cosm22 April 18 2021 20: 33
              -9
              Russian cosmonauts are engaged in science only on a first-come, first-served basis at the ISS.
              Those. only during the hours allocated to them for work in the American or European module.
              You can't do much science in your sector. If you have forgotten - a module specially designed for this is still on Earth. And experiments with fruit flies are no longer of interest to anyone.
              As for cooperation, such is possible only among equal partners.
              1. hrych
                hrych April 18 2021 21: 52
                -1
                Quote: Cosm22
                only on a first come, first served basis to the ISS.

                The Americans and other Japanese have directly enriched humanity with great discoveries from the ISS laboratories wassat At the exit zero without a stick, sprouted corn in weightlessness and beauty. Well, they grew a useless crystal there. Do you have some information on great discoveries? Enlighten? I've only heard about stupid nonsense and no fundamental discoveries.
              2. slipped
                slipped April 18 2021 22: 33
                +5
                Quote: Cosm22
                Russian cosmonauts are engaged in science only on a first-come, first-served basis at the ISS.
                Those. only during the hours allocated to them for work in the American or European module.


                Hrenase turned it over. You have to try to suck it out. lol

                Quote: Cosm22
                You can't do much science in your sector.


                I advise you to watch the video series "Experiments on the ISS" to expand your horizons on the tube on the Roscosmos media channel. In order not to flog such nonsense.



                Quote: Cosm22
                If you have forgotten - a module specially designed for this is still on Earth.


                The Science module will naturally expand the possibilities of our work in space.

                Quote: Cosm22
                And experiments with fruit flies are no longer of interest to anyone.


                And how about growing Japanese salad? belay The Americans have been doing this on the ISS for several years. laughing



                Quote: Cosm22
                As for cooperation, such is possible only among equal partners.


                We have been cooperating for 20 years. laughing Did not you notice?
        2. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay April 18 2021 18: 49
          0
          Chinese in the project? They are building their own station if you do not know. But will we still build on the water with a pitchfork. Especially looking at the creation of a new ship, Toli Eagle, Toli Federation.
          1. slipped
            slipped April 18 2021 20: 26
            +5
            Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
            Especially looking at the creation of a new ship, roofing felts Eagle, roofing felts Federation.


            Do you want to really look at the creation, and not suck the opinion out of your finger? Here's a video:

            1. Pashhenko Nikolay
              Pashhenko Nikolay April 18 2021 22: 27
              +2
              Thanks for the video. Can you tell me how many years the work has been going on and when will it end?
              1. slipped
                slipped April 19 2021 00: 10
                +6
                Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
                Thanks for the video. Can you tell me how many years the work has been going on and when will it end?


                The contract for the production of the NPP was signed with RSC Energia in October 2016. For four years (2017-2020), the technical design was seriously revised and the design documentation was released. At the moment, we are assembling bench and flight products. Launch of the first flight product "Oryol" at the end of 2023 on the "Angara-A5" launch vehicle from the "Vostochny" cosmodrome.
    4. Artyom Karagodin
      Artyom Karagodin April 18 2021 16: 44
      +5
      Yes, for now, Elon Musk will not be spoiled by this in any way. Now, if everything succeeds and the station works normally, then it will be possible to say that it is too early to bury our space.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 18 2021 17: 28
        +1
        Russia now has a Science Module, an OKA T module and a central nodal module Berth, which will form the basis of the new station.
        1. slipped
          slipped April 18 2021 19: 01
          +10
          Quote: Vadim237
          Russia now has a Science Module, an OKA T module and a central nodal module Berth, which will form the basis of the new station.


          OKA-T exists only in the form of ... let's say, drawings laughing But the NEM is going on the slipway. Many times here on the topvar such a promising scheme has already been published:



          Science and the Quay have already been completed, the NEM will be ready in 2024, the transformable module exists in the form of a large-scale model, and a short-radius centrifuge will be installed in the full-scale version. OKA-T is not present in the current FKP, it may appear in the next one. The airlock will be taken from our proposal for the American lunar station.

          All this will most likely be the first stage of the station.

          And then the station can be built up to this:


          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr April 18 2021 20: 53
            0
            What is this ball?
            1. slipped
              slipped April 18 2021 22: 37
              +4
              Quote: Bad_gr
              What is this ball?


              This? Transformable module, I wrote above.

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              2. Bad_gr
                Bad_gr April 18 2021 23: 05
                +2
                Quote: slipped
                Transformable module, I wrote above.
                In the picture, it looks like it is made of metal, solid, so I did not think that "transformable" refers to this module. Now it is clear.
                Thanks for the information.
                1. slipped
                  slipped April 19 2021 00: 20
                  +2
                  Quote: Bad_gr
                  In the picture, it looks like it is made of metal, solid, so I did not think that "transformable" refers to this module. Now it is clear.
                  Thanks for the information.


                  The centrifuge is large. Here is its prototype in IBMP,



                  the flight one will be slightly smaller, but still it will not fit into the diameter of a conventional module.
          2. Intruder
            Intruder April 18 2021 21: 40
            -1
            And then the station can be built up to this
            and at the end, this beautiful far away, after +25 years ...!?
            1. slipped
              slipped April 18 2021 22: 40
              +4
              Quote: Intruder
              and at the end, this beautiful far away, after +25 years ...!?


              No, you are mistaken, the design is already different. And the concept too. An expensive base unit is not required, as is currently planned for China. At the heart of the node module.
          3. Artyom Karagodin
            Artyom Karagodin April 19 2021 10: 01
            +1
            The most important thing is to launch what is needed for the first stage. We will master it - we will master the rest!
        2. Artyom Karagodin
          Artyom Karagodin April 19 2021 10: 00
          +1
          It's clear. Most likely, we will succeed. But it is better to wait until this happens, and then raise a glass to Russian space! Although I personally have little doubt that everything will work out.
  2. iouris
    iouris April 18 2021 14: 48
    -4
    No, we want it today!
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 April 18 2021 14: 54
      -7
      Amerikosov for 4 tariffs on a space taximeter to Earth?
  3. zwlad
    zwlad April 18 2021 15: 01
    +1
    It's good. Enough for a pittance to share your experience in space exploration. Let them try to create something themselves, and we'll see what happens.
    In the meantime, build your own station.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter April 18 2021 15: 09
      +2
      Quote: zwlad
      It's good. Enough for a pittance to share your experience in space exploration. Let them try to create something themselves, and we'll see what happens.

      The Americans were transferred to the technology of building orbital stations and, most importantly, the invaluable experience of a man's long stay in space, besides, they have something to deliver their astronauts, so that the creation of their own station with mattresses is a matter of little time.
      1. zwlad
        zwlad April 18 2021 15: 15
        +2
        I do not argue. Let them create. Themselves.
        And we ourselves.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter April 18 2021 15: 27
          +5
          Quote: zwlad
          I do not argue. Let them create. Themselves.
          And we ourselves.

          Yes, but if we have enough funds without international cooperation to create our own, without even discussing the technical side of the issue. In recent years, I don’t remember that someone made our astronautics rich, yes, individuals, but space as a whole ...
          In addition, it should be noted that with the development of other "cabbies" commercial launches will decline, the program of deliveries to Yankers is being phased out, and Musk is already carrying out the delivery of cosmonauts.
          1. Niko
            Niko April 18 2021 16: 05
            -1
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: zwlad
            I do not argue. Let them create. Themselves.
            And we ourselves.

            Yes, but if we have enough funds without international cooperation to create our own, without even discussing the technical side of the issue. In recent years, I don’t remember that someone made our astronautics rich, yes, individuals, but space as a whole ...
            In addition, it should be noted that with the development of other "cabbies" commercial launches will decline, the program of deliveries to Yankers is being phased out, and Musk is already carrying out the delivery of cosmonauts.

            It's as usual. There is no money, they will close the project with victorious fanfare, like someone made it worse, but will they open their own?
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter April 18 2021 16: 10
              -4
              Quote: Niko
              It's as usual. There is no money, they will close the project with victorious fanfare, like someone made it worse, but will they open their own?

              But this is a question of questions and, in general, what will happen to us by 2024-25.
          2. slipped
            slipped April 18 2021 19: 13
            +4
            Quote: Stroporez
            In addition, it should be noted that with the development of other "cabbies" commercial launches will fall,


            Now they are only growing. This year is completely commercial and one more with a commercial place.

            Quote: Stroporez
            the delivery program of rd yankers is being closed


            What does the RD that we supply to the Americans under a contract they previously paid have to do with this? belay

            Quote: Stroporez
            and Musk is already delivering the astronauts.


            Fewer people wanting to get into space? Not. We have a queue.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter April 18 2021 19: 41
              -7
              Quote: slipped
              Not. We have a queue.

              Here, the branch is full of statistics, as well as on other branches on space, if you tell your version, it will be interesting. Or do you want to flood?
              1. slipped
                slipped April 18 2021 19: 55
                +6
                Quote: Stroporez
                This thread is full of statistics.


                It is unclear what statistics you are talking about. Just now, we delivered astronaut Mark Vande Hai to the ISS for commercial money. And he has an understudy. laughing

                Next on the all-commercial Soyuz MS-19 on the visiting expedition the director and actress will fly to the ISS for filming the film.

                Then, on board Soyuz MS-20, along with the new crew of the station, an Australian pilot.

                Then another completely commercial "Soyuz MS-23" .... Etc.

                Quote: Stroporez
                Or do you want to flood?


                I here, unlike some, do not deal with flooding, as I know more.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter April 18 2021 20: 20
                  -6
                  Quote: slipped
                  Soyuz MS-19 ", a director and an actress will fly to the ISS for the filming of the film.

                  MOSCOW, November 16 - RIA Novosti. Together with the actress, another participant in a space flight may go to the ISS, but this will require two cosmonauts to stay at the station for a year, follows from the preliminary program of flights to the ISS for 2021, developed by the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation.
                  According to the draft program, a copy of which is at the disposal of RIA Novosti, on October 5, 2021, a crew of three people will arrive at the ISS for 12 days on board the Soyuz MS-19: cosmonaut Anton Shkaplerov and two space flight participants. Earlier it was reported that as part of this flight, an actress will go to the ISS to shoot the first feature film in space. Roscosmos did not inform about the flight of the second "tourist".
                  Having completed their work, the actress and the second flight participant will return to Earth with cosmonaut Oleg Novitsky on the Soyuz MS-18 spacecraft. Novitsky, along with rookie cosmonauts Pyotr Dubrov and Sergei Korsakov, will arrive at the station in early April 2021. Novitsky will stay in space for a standard six-month shift, and new astronauts, if the flight program is approved in its current form, will have to stay at the station for a year - to work out two shifts. This is necessary to enable the actress to fly and film.
                  As a member of the public organization Russian Federation of Cosmonautics Alexander Ukratsev noted, a director or cameraman can become the second participant. "There are several options: two actresses from the film" Challenge ", actress and director Klim Shipenko, actress and actor, actress and cameraman," - told RIA Novosti an expert who previously worked at RSC Energia in the management group of the Russian segment of the ISS. "
                  are you talking about this? Seriously?
                  So it looks more like a banter laughing
                  Good mood and impressions of the announced launches with the designated "crews". house tu rules wassat
                  1. slipped
                    slipped April 18 2021 22: 00
                    +6
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    are you talking about this? Seriously?
                    So it looks more like a banter laughing


                    What confused you here? belay The ship was built and fully paid for from extrabudgetary sources. Don't you understand that this is the first fully commercial launch?

                    Quote: Stroporez
                    Good mood and impressions of the announced launches with the designated "crews". house tu rules wassat


                    Those same "trade union vouchers" that Korolev spoke about. Does it burn you?
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter April 18 2021 22: 22
                      -6
                      Quote: slipped
                      What confused you here? The ship was built and fully paid for from extrabudgetary sources. Don't you understand that this is the first fully commercial launch?

                      You can, of course, run a circus tent with buzovy gigans, dogs and a bear, well, everything is like ragozin, only they are unlikely to master the technology of sealing all holes and cracks in our non-analogous world segment with adhesive tape. I would like them to go along with Ragozin and his guide, work out the entire required resource, undock and “heroically” burn in dense layers of the water so that they do not pollute the Pacific Ocean with their burnt bodies. good
                      this is the program !!! fellow drinks
                      PySy. like hello kitty wink
                    2. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter April 18 2021 23: 09
                      -4
                      Quote: slipped
                      Does it burn you?

                      Nothing burns with us, it boils in your intestines, if necessary, we can give purgen as a brainwash laughing laughing laughing
                      Well? fire battery? wink laughing
                      1. slipped
                        slipped April 19 2021 00: 24
                        +1
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Well? fire battery? wink laughing


                        Are you sick? Clear.
                      2. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter April 19 2021 00: 46
                        -5
                        Quote: slipped
                        Are you sick? Clear.

                        no-no-no, I have a clearly fixed immunity on you bully
                        PySy. If someone does not understand something, I am not to blame, we do not take prisoner, there will be no mercy bully
      2. xorek
        xorek April 18 2021 15: 37
        -3
        Quote: zwlad
        I do not argue. Let them create. Themselves.
        And we ourselves.

        Exactly .. hi
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 April 18 2021 17: 27
          0
          The cost of the new Russian station has already been announced. $ 6 billion, I think not too much.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 18 2021 15: 01
    +2
    Again the word "partners"! Tired of it already! So it is possible to come to an obscenity, to call the enemy a "military opponent"! Like small children, they look at what an attempt to blackmail older adults will lead to. ...
  • Prax1
    Prax1 April 18 2021 15: 09
    -4
    we’ll get out, we’ll get out, but we cannot really build. From once an advanced space power, we have turned into a periphery. Roskosmos is already inferior to private companies in the number of launches ...
    1. slipped
      slipped April 18 2021 19: 15
      +5
      Quote: Prax1
      we’ll get out, we’ll get out, but we cannot really build.


      What can't we? Where do you come from so illiterate? laughing Two station modules are already ready.





      the third is going on the slipway

      1. Intruder
        Intruder April 18 2021 21: 44
        -5
        the third is going on the slipway
        And ..., and then funding will be hacked to death in connection with the 4th wave of the pandemic (you can add any variant to your taste), and it will be lying on the stocks for +15 years, like the "Science" module !?
        1. slipped
          slipped April 18 2021 22: 58
          +4
          Quote: Intruder
          AND...,


          The launch is scheduled for 2024.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 April 19 2021 07: 44
          -1
          Quote: Intruder
          and will be +15 years roll on the slipway, like the Science module !?

          Since 1995, Nauka has been built as a backup for the Zarya station. It turns out 26 years old.
          1. slipped
            slipped April 19 2021 12: 00
            +3
            Quote: Stas157
            Since 1995, Nauka has been built as a backup for the Zarya station. It turns out 26 years old.


            Not. The body of the backup was welded in 1996. It was not needed, since Zarya successfully entered orbit. We sent the module case for storage. In 2007, they decided to make an MLM module out of it and made it in 2013. In 2015, according to the test results, it was sent to the manufacturer for revision, but in fact it was deposited. Removed from storage in 2017 and started revision. Now final tests before launch.
  • Pontiffsulyvahn
    Pontiffsulyvahn April 18 2021 15: 12
    +1
    They themselves have decided whether they are coming out or not?

    Title: Russia will withdraw from the ISS project in 2025

    Contents: When will we make a decision

    Will it come out or is it just planned to make a decision? And if the decision is to "continue", then what to do with the exit?
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 18 2021 16: 38
      +1
      So can this question be asked to the author of the news?
    2. Cosm22
      Cosm22 April 18 2021 17: 01
      -6
      All questions have already been answered by Vladimir Soloviev, Deputy General Designer for Flight Operation, Testing of Rocket and Space Complexes and Systems of RSC Energia. His words:
      "Already, there are a number of elements that are seriously damaged and out of service. Many of them cannot be replaced. After 2025, we predict an avalanche-like failure of numerous elements on board the ISS."
      Understandably, the deputy general designer means, first of all, problems with Russian equipment.
      That is the whole reason for the statement made by Borisov. It's just that Bobby is already dying today. So there will be a decision, and it will be forced.
      And about ROS ... It has long been said that dreaming is not harmful.
      1. Pontiffsulyvahn
        Pontiffsulyvahn April 18 2021 19: 29
        -1
        I know all this, there is just confusion: Borisov said that they would come out, but in the text of the news - that they are only planning an examination. One does not correspond to the other.
  • knn54
    knn54 April 18 2021 15: 13
    -1
    The Arctic is practically invisible from the ISS.
    1. xorek
      xorek April 18 2021 15: 39
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      The Arctic is practically invisible from the ISS.

      And what is there to look at her laughing There are Russian bases and are beautifully built in the shape of a star ..)))
    2. slipped
      slipped April 18 2021 19: 19
      +7
      Quote: knn54
      The Arctic is practically invisible from the ISS.


      The Arctic is visible from the "Arctic-M":

  • Drugov
    Drugov April 18 2021 15: 23
    +4
    Do not boast on the way to the army, boast on the way from the army. There are elections in September and this is the only way to explain all these brave reports about the upcoming projects.
    1. Nirvanko
      Nirvanko April 18 2021 20: 39
      -3
      No, it was just the anniversary of Gagarin's flight. We sat down, remembered the past achievement and gave birth to projects under the Christmas tree.
  • alexey2073
    alexey2073 April 18 2021 15: 27
    +1
    Well. The main thing is that there would be enough manpower and resources, production capacity, for a new orbital station.
    1. Cosm22
      Cosm22 April 18 2021 18: 27
      -4
      With funds, alas, tension.
      So the Russian station has every chance of breaking the Angara record and not meeting the quarter-century deadline.
      By the time of the hypothetical launch of the hypothetical DFB into orbit, the Chinese OS has already exhausted its resource.
      1. slipped
        slipped April 18 2021 19: 21
        +1
        Quote: Cosm22
        With funds, alas, tension.
        So the Russian station has every chance of breaking the Angara record and not meeting the quarter-century deadline.
        By the time of the hypothetical launch of the hypothetical DFB into orbit, the Chinese OS has already exhausted its resource.


        Compared .... with a finger. laughing The first ROC modules are already ready.
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 April 18 2021 20: 02
          -8
          So what if you're ready?
          Science has been "ready" for a quarter of a century, and is still lying on Earth.
          And it's scary to launch. The reliability of the Proton is known. And Russian jewelry docks in orbit of cargo trucks cause only general admiration.
          But you have to launch it. It is already indecent to pull further. Let's take a look at this ride.
          1. slipped
            slipped April 18 2021 20: 14
            +5
            Quote: Cosm22
            So what if you're ready?


            Since the launch is in a couple of months.

            Quote: Cosm22
            Science has been "ready" for a quarter of a century, and is still lying on Earth.


            MLM-U is not "lying around". laughing It is being prepared for launch at Baikonur. All ground tests have passed successfully. Now the thermobaric chamber and the installation of the interior. The launch rocket has already been delivered there.

            Quote: Cosm22
            And it's scary to launch. The reliability of the Proton is known.


            Of course it is known - the last 20 launches and all successful. laughing Don't you like it? Well, live with it.

            Quote: Cosm22
            And Russian jewelry docks in orbit of cargo trucks cause only general admiration.


            Sure. For 40 years already.

            Quote: Cosm22
            But you have to launch it. It is already indecent to pull further. Let's take a look at this ride.


            I advise you to take a selfie at this moment. And put it here. Others also have an attraction to watch the hunt. laughing
            1. Cosm22
              Cosm22 April 18 2021 21: 29
              -3
              1. Did the school at one time explain that a high-quality short adjective "ready" implies the plural?
              What kind of plural modules will be displayed in a couple of months? Science with the Dock? Is it okay that the Berth can fly to the ISS only in six months at best? There is no question of NEM at all, it will fly when the cancer whistles on the mountain.
              2. I'm glad. In a quarter of a century, Science has begun to install the interior. By the way, how are you with the tanks? Refueling problem solved?
              3. Become familiar with such a concept as VBR.
              4. Let's wait and see. I, unlike you, do not find myself in the future tense. I rely on facts and reality.
              1. slipped
                slipped April 18 2021 23: 52
                +3
                Quote: Cosm22
                1. Did the school at one time explain that a high-quality short adjective "ready" implies the plural?


                So it is, here the Science module "flies" for testing in a pressure chamber:



                Quote: Cosm22
                What kind of plural modules will be displayed in a couple of months? Science with the Dock?


                Do not distort. laughing A couple of months later, first "Science".

                Quote: Cosm22
                Is it okay that the Berth can fly to the ISS only in six months at best?


                Well, yes, the launch of Progress M-UM is scheduled for November 24. After the "Science" is integrated into the ISS.

                Quote: Cosm22
                There is no question of NEM at all, it will fly when the cancer whistles on the mountain.


                In three years. A very complex new module. With a larger volume of internal space than was previously the case for the retrofitting modules of the Mir station.

                Quote: Cosm22
                2. I'm glad. In a quarter of a century, Science has begun to install the interior. By the way, how are you with the tanks? Refueling problem solved?


                Well, you say that you know everything. laughing It does not need refueling. At all. He needs to fly to the station and dock. Refueling was required by the Zarya module while it was performing the functions of the base unit before the arrival of the Zvezda module.

                Quote: Cosm22
                3. Become familiar with such a concept as VBR.


                "No, I can't accept this" © not mine. laughing Does CSV itch?

                Quote: Cosm22
                4. Let's wait and see. I, unlike you, do not find myself in the future tense. I rely on facts and reality.


                Those. Will there be a selfie? lol
  • Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 April 18 2021 15: 39
    -4
    Holes are apparently tired of gluing after inadequate astronauts lol
    After dosvidos let them look for fools who want to fly with technology made in usa wink
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart April 18 2021 15: 54
    +4
    On the one hand, this is undoubtedly a "+" in the development of domestic space, on the other, is it not too much load for the mid-20s we have planned? Nuclon, Luna, heavyweight, PhobosGrunt-2, now also an orbital station - with modest economic "successes" to say the least. Will there be enough space budget? And if not, what projects are we going to postpone again for years ..?
    The fact that they can build some kind of station in orbit is beyond my doubts. But that it will be a useful object with broad capabilities - there is already a certain skepticism. Our "partners in space" will clearly focus on the Moon, what we will focus on, and whether we will focus at all, is not yet clear to me.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 18 2021 16: 10
    -1
    This will be the right decision and at the same time unfasten all our blocks and modules with all antennas and solar panels from the ISS. Let Musk take everything there.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona April 18 2021 16: 21
      +7
      The solar panels on the ISS are American, they were recently upgraded by the way.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach April 18 2021 18: 00
      +6
      What are your other solar panels? Are you writing from the states or what?
    3. slipped
      slipped April 18 2021 19: 24
      +4
      Quote: Ros 56
      This will be the right decision and at the same time unfasten all our blocks and modules with all antennas and solar panels from the ISS. Let Musk take everything there.


      After ours unfasten their own, the rest will have to be drowned. The design is as follows.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 April 19 2021 09: 54
        0
        This is no longer our headache.
  • Tsoy
    Tsoy April 18 2021 16: 21
    +4
    And no one noticed in the news that the new station is being planned as visited, and not permanently inhabited? That is, it is a step backward even compared to the programs of the USSR. And in general, what to do in orbit? Reconnaissance has long been carried out by satellites. How many years have they not been able to launch science? How to launch a new station in 4 years?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 18 2021 17: 31
      0
      You can still return to the station Almaz just to upgrade it deeply.
    2. Genry
      Genry April 18 2021 17: 56
      +2
      Quote: Choi
      And no one noticed in the news that the new station is being planned as visited, and not permanently inhabited?

      Where is the droushka?
      On the contrary! The current segment does not allow receiving tourists - few people, no amenities, cramped, boring, ...
    3. slipped
      slipped April 18 2021 19: 26
      +4
      Quote: Choi
      And no one noticed in the news that the new station is being planned as visited, and not permanently inhabited?


      You have mixed horses-people. Visited is the lunar station. You can't stay there for a long time. And on the orbital around the Earth - you can.
      1. Tsoy
        Tsoy April 22 2021 11: 20
        0
        You have mixed horses-people. Visited is the lunar station. You can't stay there for a long time. And on an orbital around the Earth - you can


        Nothing is confused. Vladimir Soloviev, First Deputy General Director of RSC Energia, said this at the RAS Council on Space. Crew 2-4 people, work in unmanned mode. This is a ROS project.
        1. slipped
          slipped April 22 2021 16: 07
          +2
          Quote: Choi
          Nothing is confused. Vladimir Soloviev, First Deputy General Director of RSC Energia, said this at the RAS Council on Space. Crew 2-4 people, work in unmanned mode. This is a ROS project.


          The project is called ROSS. If the station is moved to a greater latitude than previously proposed, then it will become visited, without a separate crew constantly being there. But this does not mean that during the shift shift it will not continue to work in automatic mode, the technologies are now such that constant monitoring of the equipment, as before, is not required today .. So this is a step forward towards greater automation.
    4. Nirvanko
      Nirvanko April 18 2021 20: 36
      -4
      No way. This is a logical completion of the work of Putin's managers at Roskomos and, in general, the government's attitude to science and space. Science has been doing since 95. It's scary to think how long they will build the station.
  • nnm
    nnm April 18 2021 16: 29
    0
    The cost of the program until 2030 is estimated at $ 6 billion.
    https://m.gazeta.ru/science/news/2021/04/18/n_15877418.shtml
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik April 18 2021 17: 30
    -5
    Usually they say so when there is something of their own, but here, as always, chatter and promises.
    1. slipped
      slipped April 18 2021 19: 27
      +4
      Quote: lis-ik
      Usually they say so when there is something of their own, but here, as always, chatter and promises.


      That's it. Photo above.
  • Nirvanko
    Nirvanko April 18 2021 20: 34
    -7
    China is building its own orbital station - Russia leaves space in 2025. That's all folks.
    1. slipped
      slipped April 18 2021 23: 57
      0
      Quote: Nirvanko
      China is building its own orbital station - Russia leaves space in 2025. That's all folks.


      This is called - "I look in the book, I see a fig." lol Did you blur your Wishlist without thinking? Happenes.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 19 2021 01: 26
      -1
      In 2025, only you will leave - you damn whining whining people. The mongrels bark the caravan goes on and so it will be with everything.
  • KCA
    KCA April 19 2021 10: 06
    0
    What is it that everyone loves to remember Mir so much? A fungus was found on it, it was seen during a mess, there was no way to remove it and there was a direct threat to the health and life of the crews, and how it could mutate in space was generally unknown