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Ukraine and Turkey go to war with Russia

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Ukraine and Turkey go to war with Russia
Ukrainian army began to use Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones for combat strikes on DPR positions


What should Moscow do in the conditions of whipping up an atmosphere of anticipation of a big war in the South of the Russian land?

What Stalin did before the Great War! Arming the army, strengthening industry, creating R&D, science, education and personnel. Force the army of officials to march in formation, and after them all the oligarchs, with the nationalization of all property, if necessary.

Threat of war with Ukraine, Turkey


News, who come almost every day, say that Kiev, Ankara, Washington and Brussels are clearly determined to start a war with Russia. Or force the Kremlin to throw away the white flag, surrender Donbass, Crimea and everything that is required (Kaliningrad, Vyborg, Kuriles, etc.). At the same time, Kiev does not have independence, it plays the role of a penal battalion, a "battering ram" to strike at Russia. For the Russians to kill the Russians to the delight of the masters of the West. Ukraine is quietly sacrificed in order to then colonize the western regions of the Russian world. Thus, the new and inevitable collapse of Ukraine will allow its western regions to be given to Poland, Hungary and Romania. To join the "world community".

Kiev was forced to transfer almost all available forces to the borders of Donbass and Crimea. All trunks and equipment, including school buses. Zelenskiy has enlisted the support of the Turkish Sultan Erdogan. Turkey has promised to defend the territorial integrity, independence and sovereignty of Ukraine. Help restore the territorial integrity of Ukraine, de-occupation of Crimea and Sevastopol, the territories of Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

Why does Ankara need it?

Earlier, Turkey received great benefits from "friendship" in the Russian Federation: billions of dollars annually from the tourist flow, the construction of the Turkish Stream, the Akkuyu nuclear power plant. However, economics is a lower priority compared to geoeconomics and geopolitics. Ankara is consistently seizing one position after another in the creation of a logistics power on the way from Asia to Europe. From Asia - flows of energy resources, from Europe - goods and technologies. Therefore, Ankara became a participant in the war in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Karabakh. Moreover, Turkey's successes in these wars are obvious. Ukraine is next in line.

Erdogan also plans to expand the capabilities of the strait zone. Turkey will build the Istanbul Canal. The head of Turkey said that the Montreux Convention will not apply to the Istanbul channel. That is, in 6-7 years, foreign squadrons and fleets will visit the Black Sea without restrictions, which will be a powerful blow to Russia's strategic interests in the south. 104 retired Turkish admirals protested. The former military men were frightened by the ease with which the president changes the laws of the country and, in fact, follows the path of liquidating the secular state and the precepts of the founder of the republic, Mustafa Kemal. In response, the authorities accused the admirals of attempting a coup and arrested some of the "conspirators." The day before the admirals' letter, 126 retired diplomats made a similar appeal, stating that revising the convention was inadmissible.

Preparing the intervention


The storm is steadily approaching Russia. The news comes about the appearance of Polish and Turkish military in Donbass. The Turkish military is similar to special forces, apparently aimed at coordinating the actions of militants from the Middle East. Ukrainian special services with the help of Turkish colleagues are recruiting mercenaries in Syria. Earlier, the Turks have already successfully used militants in Syria in the war in Libya and Karabakh.

The Russian Defense Ministry reports that NATO is increasing its presence in the Black and Baltic Seas. NATO is creating a second echelon behind Ukraine. It is clear that the Westerners are not going to fight. This is "moral" support for Ukraine, a detachment. The task with the help of military alert and local hostilities is to cause a powerful internal crisis in Ukraine, Belarus and the Russian Federation. A war, even a limited one, will cause a new wave of growth in prices for foodstuffs, consumer goods, clothing, electronics, gasoline, etc. Further, a split in the Russian elite, a rebellion of its pro-Western part, is possible. An attempt to revolt the regions.

Russia interrupts flights with Turkey. Millions of people who were planning to go on vacation abroad are unhappy. At the same time, a new surge in prices in the southern resorts of Russia. The Russian administration is talking about a possible disconnection from SWIFT and from the US payment systems Visa and MasterCard. Biden talks about the state of emergency in the field of national security because of Russia, introduces new sanctions against the Russian Federation. Moscow responds with its sanctions.

What's next?

The case is clearly heading for war.

Otherwise, the crisis of capitalism cannot be overcome. Kiev, under pressure from the West, can at any time launch an invasion of Donbass and arrange provocations on the Crimean borders. Turkey and NATO will support Kiev with information, weapons, ammunition, advisers. NATO will create groupings of troops in the Baltics, Poland, and the Balkans, put pressure on Moscow, and prevent it from making a dash to the Dnieper. Further, the scenario is either a protracted crisis, with a sharp deterioration in the life of the common people, which will cause internal social explosions in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, or a quick surrender of the Kremlin. At the same time, the "color revolutions" in Russia and Belarus will clearly bring pro-Western, openly collaborationist regimes to power.

It is also worth noting that Western Europe is clearly not against this scenario. Formally, Brussels, Berlin and Paris are against the war. In fact, the European capitals want to realize their scenario “Europe from Lisbon to the Urals”. The new "perestroika" of Russia will make it possible to reformat and colonize Ukraine and Belarus, the western part of the Russian Federation, making its inhabitants 3-4 grade EU citizens. Dilute the African and Arab masses in Europe with white "slaves". Divide Russia along the Ural ridge, including the western part in its sphere of influence. Kaliningrad-Konigsberg will be returned to Germany, Vyborg - to Finland, the Finns will be allowed to master Karelia, etc. This will raise the EU's status in relations with the United States and with the new eastern empire - China. Therefore, the Ukrainian war is beneficial to Europe.

What to do


It is necessary to use the pre-war experience of the USSR and Germany. Moscow and Berlin were able to prepare for a big war for several years. Rebuild the economy, raise the military-industrial complex, create a first-class Armed Forces, fundamental science, research and development, a system of patriotic education and training, personnel. After all, you need to recreate everything that has been consistently destroyed for 30 years.

War requires a strong economy. It is necessary to use the experience of Germany after 1933, when industrial money was issued. Their turnover is rigidly tied to industrial production, interest for the use of money was not charged. They cannot be cashed, sent for other purposes, since this money is not a means of payment. Money is not tied to any of the world's currencies. The ban on the export of capital. Thus, it is necessary to create a non-cash circulation of money by sectors of the economy, without the possibility of cash out budget funds. Eliminate loan interest in the state money circulation, except for cash and the export of capital of concessions, where interest is a financial tax for the use of money, resources and their turnover. The ruble is tied to the entire national treasure during the nationalization of resources, subsoil and land, ceases to have dollar and other currency content (except for a fixed gold).

This minimal socialism, multiplied by the ideology of Russian nationalism (National question and migration), the version of state-monopoly capitalism will allow in the shortest possible time to restore the defense capability and autocracy, the autarky of the Russian state and people.

It is also necessary to find an ally, a supplier of industrial technologies, equipment and entire factories in order to restore industrial independence. It will not work to come to an agreement with America and Europe. The West has been waging a war of annihilation with Russian civilization for a thousand years. The question is in the worldview, the plan of life, faith and ideology. The formula for Western policy towards Russia sounds like this, it was voiced by Brzezinski:

"A new world order with US hegemony is being created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the rubble of Russia."

Only China remains, which needs a solid rear in its confrontation with the United States. The Celestial Empire can reach the level of "great harmony" only with the spiritual influence of Russian civilization.

The union of Russia and China allows humanity to get out of the current impasse caused by the victory of capitalism and the consumer society.
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  2. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 19 2021 18: 07
    -17%
    Turkey and its President are popular in the Volga region, in the Caucasus, in the North, among guest workers. I myself saw how the portrait of Erdogan was displayed in the restaurant and the defeat of the Armenians was celebrated ...
    For example, do we need migrant workers conductive? Or does the Lobby give a damn about the country's security?
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 19 2021 18: 24
      +20
      Stop lying, amateur provocateur! Learn materiel.
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 19 2021 20: 28
        -8
        https://63.ru/text/world/2020/11/10/69535213/

        So who's lying here? Provaktor and agent of Turkish intelligence here you are
        Here is the link above, Right on Kuibyshev Square they saluted and rejoiced, where, by the way, there was a Parade in 41 in the spare capital!
        1. Patigorsk2020
          Patigorsk2020 April 20 2021 08: 34
          +4
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          https://63.ru/text/world/2020/11/10/69535213/

          And they did it right. We defeated separatism. If, during the celebration, they robbed or blew up this is another matter. This is a great victory for Azerbaijan. Do you have something against Azerbaijanis? Or do you like those who burns the Russian flag, close Russian schools, walk with posters Russia Occupant?

          Regarding the 41st. Azerbaijan also has reasons to celebrate this date. Because there was a huge contribution to this victory.

          Unlike these Armenians, 90% speak Russian in Baku. They are very loyal to Russian citizens and tourists and their own.
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 20 2021 08: 46
            +1
            Celebrate at home, do a car rally with your flags at home - this is a violation of our law, for which the protocols were drawn up, it was necessary to send in general those who violated our laws.
            Our authorities generally missed everything, began to react only when our citizens began to complain and upload photos and videos on social networks.
            Do not dictate your principles and views to us, you are a foreign state, foreign, we are not one country, behave yourself decently and respect our laws! Your flag is a foreign flag for us! Your victory ... This is not our holiday!
            1. For example
              For example April 20 2021 15: 36
              +5
              The head of Turkey said that the Montreux Convention will not apply to the Istanbul channel. That is, in 6-7 years, foreign squadrons and fleets will visit the Black Sea without restrictions.

              These are fantasies of those who did not delve into Montreux
              There (in the convention) it says:
              Total tonnage of warships of non-Black Sea states in the Black Sea cannot exceed 30 tons


              You even dig a hundred canals, but in the Black Sea the total tonnage of ships of non-Black Sea countries cannot exceed 30 tons.

              The Turk wants to cut the loot on the passage of ships through the new channel.
              And this is a completely different song. hi
              1. Gardener91
                Gardener91 April 21 2021 13: 54
                0
                Quote: For example
                There (in the convention) it says:

                Duc, the law is not written for fools!
            2. t00r
              t00r April 23 2021 19: 24
              0
              you breathe out in Russia there are 33 million Muslims and 16 million Turkic peoples and this is without half-breeds and so on ... so be careful when cornering "respected" ...
              1. Holuay T.O
                Holuay T.O April 23 2021 19: 44
                0
                Did not scare
      2. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 19 2021 20: 50
        -4
        Why do we need someone else's flag on the Main Square? Are you bleaching it? So you are with them! And I am for RUSSIA!
      3. Civil
        Civil April 20 2021 06: 52
        +3
        Force the army of officials to march in formation, and after them all the oligarchs, with the nationalization of all property, if necessary.

        War is needed exactly for the opposite, so that the people walk in formation, and the remnants of Soviet enterprises should be finally privatized.
        Akkuyu NPP. However, economics is a lower priority compared to geoeconomics and geopolitics.

        Vladimir Putin, together with President of the Republic of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan, took part in a video conference in the format of a video conference on the occasion of the start of construction of power unit 3 of the Akkuyu NPP in the Turkish province of Mersin on March 10, 2021.
        A war, even a limited one, will cause a new wave of growth in prices for foodstuffs, consumer goods, clothing, electronics, gasoline, etc. Further, a split in the Russian elite, a rebellion of its pro-Western part, is possible. An attempt to revolt the regions.

        Almost always, a capitalist war causes disorder in the poor capitalist countries of the world. This is the inevitable outcome. Relying on nationalism in the 3st century is impossible due to the stratification of society 21 of the world into the ultra rich and the general impoverished, oppressed population.
        War requires a strong economy. It is necessary to use the experience of Germany after 1933,

        Concentration camps to build? introduce racial laws? Declare National Socialism? The German miracle is based on the consensus of the society "Germans are a great nation and above all" with visible oppression of national minorities and rabid propaganda. So far, we have only propaganda of this.
        It is necessary to use the pre-war experience of the USSR

        Well, this is generally from the field of unscientific fiction, why would the capital give the people all its assets ?!
        the variant of state-monopoly capitalism will allow in the shortest possible time to restore the defense capability and autocracy, the autarky of the Russian state and the people.

        This has already been done, but does not work. And it won't work. Archaic government schemes will not work for the people, only to maintain existing decline. Therefore, such schemes have survived only in countries 3 and 4 of the world.
        Union of Russia and China

        China a month ago officially refused an alliance with Russia. Well, the progressive prosperous communist China will not ally with the feudal capitalist country of the 3rd world. There are no ideological foundations. There are no general goals.

        What to do?
        1. To tie up with wars and start dealing with your country.
        2. Recognize that wild capitalism in our country (and any in the 21st century) does not work.
        3. Return the right to citizens in the regions to independently choose the principles of economic regulation.
        4. Restore the legislative right of the subjects to create state industrial enterprises under public control.
        5. Introduce a quota (downward) for representatives of big business in regional parliaments.
        This will help to re-create a balance between the interests of the business-society-state. Without any revolutions or tsarist autocracy.
        1. Zug
          Zug April 20 2021 07: 35
          +10
          These are fairy tales.
          1. dorz
            dorz April 20 2021 07: 47
            +5
            The union of Russia and China allows humanity to get out of the current impasse ...

            The war is also beneficial to the Chinese who want to punish Ukraine for scamming with Motor Sich. China will never agree to an alliance with Russia against the United States.
            1. Pensive Lawyer
              Pensive Lawyer April 22 2021 16: 11
              0
              Of course, it won't, it will run. They want to take the place of the United States. And alone it is impossible - you need an ally. And who can be a better ally for a factory around the world than the richest country in resources?
          2. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED April 20 2021 12: 54
            +1
            These are fairy tales.


            Tales of peoples from the Server.
        2. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka April 22 2021 15: 59
          +2
          What Stalin did before the Great War! Arming the army, strengthening industry, creating R&D, science, education and personnel. Make an army of officials walk in formation
          Oh, what a bad author, he calls on us to restore "minimal socialism". Doesn't the author watch TV and listen to "Russian patriots" ?! There are no oligarchs in the Russian Federation, there are super-rich people and they are all patriots! With science and officials - everything is fine, science in cartoons, officials - alive! And about Stalin, the author, in vain. Although the Russian Federation exists only thanks to him, well, you can't belittle it like that.
    2. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 19 2021 18: 26
      +23
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      Turkey and its President are popular in the Volga region, in the Caucasus, in the North, among guest workers. I myself saw how the portrait of Erdogan was displayed in the restaurant and the defeat of the Armenians was celebrated ...
      For example, do we need migrant workers conductive? Or does the Lobby give a damn about the country's security?

      Do not carry nonsense. It's only popular in your head. And individual cafes of assimilated Turks in the Volga region can be counted on the fingers
      In general, today a good portion of drugs has been delivered to the authors of VO. The whole day is rushing. laughing
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 19 2021 18: 29
        -40%
        It is clear that you are an agent of Turkish intelligence
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha April 19 2021 18: 32
          +15
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          It is clear that you are an agent of Turkish intelligence

          Again, they didn't drink the medicine, my friend. Completeness, it will pass. Trollism I mean
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 19 2021 18: 33
            -29%
            These are the words, you are an agent of influence
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha April 19 2021 18: 34
              +15
              Quote: Holuay T.O.
              These are words

              And you, I see, write in elven script
              1. DED_peer_DED
                DED_peer_DED April 20 2021 12: 59
                +2
                Quote: Mitroha
                And you, I see, write in elven script


                He clearly writes that.
        2. Korax71
          Korax71 April 20 2021 15: 46
          0
          you again shame 42omrpspn ??? am
      2. Yuriy71
        Yuriy71 April 19 2021 20: 23
        +13
        This is not nonsense at all !!! You are, apparently, a representative of the cohort of "shashkomakidatel" and "checkerboard" !? For example, I very much doubt that if Russia gets involved in a big war, then the well-known leaders of the Caucasian republics will be on the side of Russia! One of them once said - "Putin is my president ......., and then we'll see!" Or do you think that unrest will not start in Tatarstan, Bashkiria, etc., etc.? Yes, they will tear Russia apart from the inside! And, after all, there is still NATO, Japan, the United States ..... All other "brothers" will also climb, and supposedly "allies"! It is clear that Ukrainians will fulfill their eternally beloved function - the Punitive one! - to arrange New Khatyns in Russia! The Balts will do the same! And in Russia, thanks to the Unified State Exam, a new generation of "Kolley from Urengoy" has grown up! Do you think they will sit in the trenches and die for the Motherland ?! Everything is much worse, in fact, than you think! And I'm not an alarmist! Simply - I see Specific mortally dangerous problems for Russia! And they are a FACT! And not to see them is not only stupid, but also criminal!
        1. lucul
          lucul April 19 2021 20: 49
          +4
          Or do you think that unrest will not start in Tatarstan, Bashkiria, etc., etc.? Yes, they will tear Russia apart from the inside!

          For so long the Russians were instilled with a sense of guilt, forced to repent for "Great Russian chauvinism."
          All that Russia needs to put things in order is to give a command to the people - to put things in order. And believe me, in an instant all these "breakers of Russia" will calm down.
          1. Yuriy71
            Yuriy71 April 19 2021 21: 13
            +6
            “All that Russia needs to put things in order is to give a command to the people - to put things in order. And believe me, in an instant all these“ Russian breakers ”will calm down.” ... Who will give this command? The president? The Liberal Government Grown by Him? There was no political will, and there is still no! All responses to sanctions are Ridiculous! Yes, you forbid them ...., the export of strategic raw materials and materials .... Yes, in the end - the passage through the territory of Russia of all aircraft, the countries of the Alliance! Let them fly from Britain to Australia - via Africa or something else! Answers - REALLY A LOT !!! Only NOBODY WANTS to answer!
          2. 210ox
            210ox April 20 2021 02: 34
            +2
            Give a command to the people .. And you know what will happen? Nothing. People are concerned with survival, not with the solution of the issue that the state should deal with. Well, some marginals can set fire to others (gypsy points). But for this the state itself will give a hat. Will the people go to smash the Caucasians? Come on.
        2. what's the difference
          what's the difference April 22 2021 17: 01
          +1
          Yuriy71 Th you in kind dismissed snot like a woman. Reading is disgusting, well, go shoot yourself, did it. Listen to you, you have to surrender to everyone you can, just not to touch. So bear in mind with this position you will be a slave and everyone will touch you for all the places you are ours. If you want to go, surrender or shoot yourself, stop hysteria here to see prices. And I speak for myself, I have to die and I will die for the Motherland. Here's a terrified answer for you.
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED April 20 2021 12: 49
      0
      in the Caucasus

      "In the depths of the Caucasian ores ..."
      If In mountain mines, then at what depth from the surface? What do you think ?
  3. Peaceful SEO
    Peaceful SEO April 19 2021 18: 18
    +16
    How scary to live ...
    Author, grass is evil
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 19 2021 18: 25
      0
      wassat Karau-u-u-st, we will all die !!! Something like this. laughing
      1. NIKN
        NIKN April 19 2021 19: 32
        +7
        Who only did not come to us and more than once, especially the Turks. We know the results. Here is how it turns out in a joke.
        There is a hunter in the woods. Sees - the den. Well, he took off his gun, fired a couple of times, waiting.
        Then a bear suddenly knocks on his shoulder:
        - Choose, either I will eat you, or I will fuck you.
        Well, the man, naturally, chose the latter.
        The next day, the hunter specifically armed himself: he scored a grenade, a Kalashnikov assault rifle, cartridges. I found a den, stood shooting for ten minutes.
        Tired, worth it. Here again, from behind the bear taps on the shoulder:
        - Choose, either I will eat you, or I will fuck you.
        Again, the man chose the second. On the third day, the hunter took half a ton of TNT, and somehow rolled to the den.
        It exploded so that the floor of the forest was smashed. The man is standing happy, he thinks the star has come to the bear for sure. Here again the bear knocks on the shoulder:
        - Hey, man, I don't understand: are you a hunter or a gay ?!
    2. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 19 2021 18: 30
      +4
      Quote: Peaceful SEO
      How scary to live ...
      Author, grass is evil

      THIS IS NOT GRASS laughing
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 19 2021 22: 51
      +6
      Another Bredyatina from Samsonov.
  4. Wertgan
    Wertgan April 19 2021 18: 22
    +2
    This time or after some time, but the agenda is as follows: entry into a new referendum on changing Articles 12 and 15 of the constitution on the priority of international law, then nationalization of the state bank, then independent credit policy, dnofshorization, creation of national elites (political and industrial), and then what is described in the article will become possible.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan April 19 2021 18: 47
      +15
      First you need an idea to unite the nation, i.e. unite the people of Russia. And there is no such idea and is not foreseen.
      According to the situation, one thing can be said: we have completed our leadership, played out with many moves, that we are already preparing for a real war with Ukraine. How did you bring the situation to such an impasse?
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 19 2021 19: 40
        +3
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        preparing for a real war with Ukraine. How did you bring the situation to such an impasse?

        And then you do not know. No.
      2. lucul
        lucul April 19 2021 20: 53
        -9
        First you need an idea to unite the nation, i.e. unite the people of Russia. And there is no such idea and is not foreseen.

        Are you laughing? It has existed for a long time - do you remember the enthusiasm after the return of Crimea?
        So it is here - the annexation of new lands can unite the nation. Conquest is strength, and everyone strives to join the strong.
        After all, everyone can think that from the conquest of new lands something will fall on him - little land, new opportunities, and so on.
        And when the territory of the country is unchanged, then the possibilities of a person are limited in advance. )))
      3. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED April 20 2021 13: 04
        +1
        First you need an idea to unite the nation

        There are many ideas. There are millions of ideological ones. On that and fuss.
        And, you need only one.
  5. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 April 19 2021 18: 24
    -5
    Of course, there can be war. And it will most likely be. But we cannot yet carry out normal preparation, we have no suverinet to do this.
    https://youtu.be/Boww--68KlE
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 19 2021 18: 39
      +1
      Quote: Herman 4223
      we are not sovereign to do this.

      My condolences, but we have it in Russia, and we are carrying out training and rearmament.
      You there it-hold on soldier
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED April 20 2021 13: 06
        0
        Quote: Mitroha
        and we have in Russia

        Look at the faces of the sovereign.
        Whose sovereignty should they defend?
    2. knn54
      knn54 April 19 2021 19: 23
      +8
      I will tell you (one of the options) how to deal with the Turkish mercenaries. Throw a certain amount of hash and the result will not be long in coming.
      I do not think that Erdogan will have strong public support for the war with Russia.
      There are influential forces (including those abroad) that are waiting for the slightest failure of the "sultan".
      And the lira as a currency is rather volatile.
      Erdogan has a "second wind" after Karabakh, and after it an artificial one may come.
      Erdogan's great influence on the Crimean Tatars, and this is really very dangerous, taking into account the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Crimea. And the Turkish fleet is very strong.
      And you shouldn't count on the PRC especially.
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 April 19 2021 19: 33
        +1
        Dumping a ton of cannabis on Turkish mercenaries is probably another sight. But it’s better that it doesn’t come to that.
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 20 2021 02: 38
          +1
          Interesting. Who do we have to turn to for these tons of cannabis? We do not produce it ourselves. what
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 April 20 2021 07: 34
            0
            Tajikistan is our ally hi
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED April 20 2021 13: 08
        +1
        Quote: knn54
        And you shouldn't count on the PRC especially.

        The Chinese are enemies.
        But for money, their own mother will be sold. So we will not be left without goods. Something will fall.
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  7. Azis
    Azis April 19 2021 18: 33
    +3
    Ban on the export of capital

    to the entire national treasure with the nationalization of resources, subsoil and land

    Dreaming ...
    quick surrender of the Kremlin
    more likely
  8. Humpty
    Humpty April 19 2021 18: 33
    +1
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    I myself saw how the portrait of Erdogan was displayed in the restaurant and the defeat of the Armenians was celebrated ...
    For example, do we need migrant workers conductive?
    Who will dig ditches
    1. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O April 19 2021 18: 36
      -12%
      No matter how they raised the flag of Turkey. When Turkey's national football team plays regularly
      1. Humpty
        Humpty April 19 2021 18: 43
        -1
        I see Turks often, both local and Turkish. The affairs in Karabakh were unremarkable for them.
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED April 20 2021 13: 10
        0
        Quote: Holuay T.O.
        When Turkey's national football team plays regularly

        Replaced with washed panties.
  9. Torins
    Torins April 19 2021 18: 35
    +7
    The author with flies?
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 19 2021 18: 41
      +2
      Flies, it seems, are already hovering ABOVE the author laughing he is so "under the fly"
      No, I agree with some thoughts. I fully support some part. But in general, the article turned out to match the previous one, about the bombing in the stone age of Ukraine wassat
  10. KKND
    KKND April 19 2021 18: 40
    +7
    This is Alexander Samsonov, for those for whom he writes grass they do not need them and so "rushing" is not childish. There are many crazy people in our country, for them a whole TV channel has already been launched, even if their thoughts need to be directed towards patriotism. The war will begin, maybe they will run to the tank with a cumulative grenade.
    1. Gato
      Gato April 19 2021 21: 27
      +1
      maybe they will run to the tank with a cumulative grenade.

      Do not .. will "burn with a verb"
  11. Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 19 2021 18: 40
    +2
    Quote: Holuay T.O.
    I myself saw how the portrait of Erdogan was displayed in the restaurant and the defeat of the Armenians was celebrated ...

    Eck, what hot places do you go to)
    1. Holuay T.O
      Holuay T.O April 19 2021 19: 48
      -4
      Oga, and even right on Kuibyshev Square in Samara, a fireworks were staged in honor of the loss of the Armenians, this is where the Victory Parade in 1941 was held
      1. Konstantin Gogolev
        Konstantin Gogolev April 19 2021 20: 18
        0
        Scandals, intrigues, investigations!!!
        I found an interesting moment.

        Yumit Topal, an amateur Turkish historian and writer, filed on April 8, a lawsuit seeking the return of ten military standards captured by Russian troops during the fighting in Turkey's eastern province of Erzurum during World War I. The plaintiff claims that the banners of the Ottoman army, which ended up with the Russians in 1916, represent the "honor" of the Turkish nation and should be returned, the Daily Sabah reported.
        Erzurum, which was occupied several times during the Russian Empire's Caucasus campaign against the Ottomans, was last taken from Turkish forces in February 1916 after a bloody battle in which an estimated 10 Ottoman soldiers died. Along with 000 standards, Russian troops captured thousands of prisoners. The city was liberated by the Ottomans two years later, when the Bolsheviks who came to power brought Russia out of the war.
        Yumit Topal claims that the banners were captured by a detachment of one of the Russian officers at Fort Azizie, where a fierce battle was fought, and are currently in the Hermitage warehouse in St. Petersburg.

        “Along with the standards, we found out that (the Russians) seized other items, such as the clock on the city tower, fort door , artifacts and manuscripts that were delivered to Russian libraries. But what hurts us the most is keeping the standards. We also found out that in Russia they were exhibited upside down for some time, ”an amateur historian told the Turkish news agency Demirören News Agency (DHA).
        According to him, as "evidence" the claimants presented the reports of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Turkey and archival documents of the Erzurum governorate, which "testify that the Turkish side is the owner of the banners."
        https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/04/12/vernite-chest-v-turcii-podali-isk-o-vozvrate-rossiey-osmanskih-znamyon

        The right to trophies is sacred. I think so.

        Holuay, lay out the links to such scandalous facts that you know. We will get to know, react, take action .... Sorry for the stereotypes - it worked).
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        2. Holuay T.O
          Holuay T.O April 19 2021 20: 42
          -2
          https://youtu.be/oshR9xXp5gw
          1. Konstantin Gogolev
            Konstantin Gogolev April 19 2021 20: 51
            0
            I checked your two links. There is "Malevich's black square". Under the first, deleted by you, there are comments even four years ago. What should I see / hear there?
      2. Konstantin Gogolev
        Konstantin Gogolev April 19 2021 20: 34
        -1
        Quote: Holuay T.O.
        on Kuibyshev square in Samara fireworks were arranged in honor of the loss of Armenians

        Compiled 10 administrative cases. The local Azerbaijani diaspora apologized - the youth participated there. What do you suggest to plant them?
        1. Holuay T.O
          Holuay T.O April 19 2021 20: 45
          -3
          The links here are not inline, which are the ones I gave you
          Do you like it when someone's flag is raised in the main square? Cult Square! Who will guarantee that in the event of war they will not behave in a hostile manner? Are you sane? We are talking about the influence of Turkey, and here there are already artists from Turkish intelligence who claim that there is no influence ...
          No problem ... hide your head in the sand
          1. Konstantin Gogolev
            Konstantin Gogolev April 19 2021 21: 01
            0
            Quote: Holuay T.O.
            Who will guarantee that in the event of war they will not behave in a hostile manner?

            Department for Combating Extremism, etc. There are certain regulations. For example: in the USA during WW2, all Japanese living in the states were herded into camps. We would rather have deportation.
            But! In case of war! We cannot close it in advance - only especially prominent individuals who violate the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
      3. 210ox
        210ox April 20 2021 02: 42
        0
        This is where the Victory Parade in 1941 was held? Are you a victim of the current education? In the morning to school. Scatter.
        1. Holuay T.O
          Holuay T.O April 20 2021 05: 33
          -5
          The word Victory is constantly in my head. PARADE 41 in the reserve capital on November 7 in honor of the Revolution
          1. 210ox
            210ox April 20 2021 12: 45
            0
            Come on. Stop acting like a fool. In the head, in the heart, in the revolution. This is for you to renegade Zyuganov.
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  12. Eug
    Eug April 19 2021 19: 03
    0
    If everything is as the author describes, then the key to the start of hostilities is in Beijing - if the Americans "find out" that in a situation where they get bogged down in a European conflict, China "grabs" Taiwan, then no one in Europe will start a mess .. ...
  13. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock April 19 2021 19: 05
    +1
    This "patriot" proposes to surrender to the mercy of China.
    I am shocked by today's selection.
    Just some kind of holiday on the site.
  14. Cucumbers
    Cucumbers April 19 2021 19: 05
    -5
    The reincarnates will not be spared. It's like a cancerous tumor. Surgery only
    1. nikvic46
      nikvic46 April 19 2021 19: 49
      +1
      Ogurtsov. I wonder by what signs you will identify reincarnated?
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 19 2021 20: 14
        -3
        Quote: nikvic46
        Ogurtsov. I wonder by what signs you will identify reincarnated?

        Comrade Ogurtsov? Isn't this one:
        Well, let's hear the clowns? Please, comrades!


        laughing
      2. Cucumbers
        Cucumbers April 20 2021 09: 40
        0
        It will not be me who will determine, but the relevant authorities
  15. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 19 2021 19: 14
    +8
    Hundreds of billions of dollars of the country's elites lie abroad, for this money they will bring their mother on a platter to the walls of the State Department. Power should not be the fifth point to the people, there were many promises, just remember the 25 million high-tech jobs. War is most likely, and the main thing here is for the country to come under the full control of the security forces in order to nip in the bud the attempts to disintegrate the country.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 19 2021 20: 18
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      Hundreds of billions of dollars of the country's elites lie abroad, for this money they will bring their mother on a platter to the walls of the State Department. Power should not be the fifth point to the people, there were many promises, just remember the 25 million high-tech jobs. War is most likely, and the main thing here is for the country to come under the full control of the security forces in order to nip in the bud the attempts to disintegrate the country.

      ++++ HUGE PLUS ++++ ETERNAL PLUS +++
    2. Revival
      Revival April 20 2021 11: 44
      0
      "The authorities should not be the fifth point to the people, there were many promises, the main thing is that the country should come under the full control of the security forces."

      As I understand it, you have such an option for uniting the people?
      Does this mean that promises will be fulfilled or will they turn to the people?
    3. 210ox
      210ox April 20 2021 12: 49
      0
      This is the least likely war. When billions lie in the overseas. But about the power you are right. VVP and his entourage can only feel calm in our country. They have no other airfield. And this must be borne in mind.
    4. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 17: 09
      +1
      Full control of the security forces? - The option is lousy and very, very short-lived. You can hold out on this for half a year, then drain everything and everything. The siloviki on the basis of money very easily turn into "businessmen", or rather into mafia dons in essence. A silovik is not an ideologically motivated person, but just a functionary with a craving for violent methods. There were and are such "siloviks" in the countries of the 3rd world, and all of them are "banana". Among the "siloviks" the People of Idea are extremely rare, for that almost without exception there is professional deformation of the personality of varying degrees. For example, Mishustin knows how to knock out taxes, but whoever thought of putting him on the post of "developer" of the economy, such a person, due to his professional credo, is initially unable to raise "chickens", but collecting "eggs" is yes, master. Likewise, 99,5% of "siloviks" do not accept the method, except how to "keep and not let go," and who? - The one "who is needed", or rather who is easier. And the easiest way is to exterminate the ordinary atomized population, purely in a fraternal way. It is easier to try to dig a garden with a pistol than to save the country with "the all-encompassing power of the security forces."
  16. looker-on
    looker-on April 19 2021 19: 26
    +2
    And where about what to do next with China? Well, nothing about the super ethnos)
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 19 2021 20: 07
      0
      Quote: looker-on
      And where about what to do next with China? Well, nothing about the super ethnos)

      laughing Exactly, exactly) At the most interesting place. It seems that at that moment collectors came to Samsonov for a loan debt. Distracted, you know, from deciding the fate of the Chinese.
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 17: 12
      -1
      About the super-ethnos, and so everything is clear. Moskovitsky gave his soul to God (700 years of genesis), and the Soviet was buried as a baby in the garden. Either the boy will dig himself out, or we will all scatter with relics in the auls as in the "Caucasian reserve".
  17. nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 19 2021 19: 46
    +2
    The experience of Nazi Germany will not be useful to us. We must remember that the world is looking at us. And every camouflage will be visible, calculate your every step and behave with dignity.
    1. xorek
      xorek April 19 2021 20: 28
      0
      Quote: nikvic46
      The experience of Nazi Germany will not be useful to us. We must remember that the world is looking at us. And every camouflage will be visible, calculate your every step and behave with dignity.

      Nikolay said well .. I agree. hi
    2. Gato
      Gato April 19 2021 21: 24
      +3
      We must remember that the world is looking at us

      Well, yes ... If not in the scope, then in the pocket.
  18. xorek
    xorek April 19 2021 19: 51
    -6
    "A new world order with US hegemony is being created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the rubble of Russia."

    But while alive, at least one Russian ensign, they will not wait for this .. soldier
    And the Turks and Svidomo are not a threat to us .. Where is the "hornet's nest" of all this we have known for a long time ..
  19. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 19 2021 19: 54
    +2
    It is necessary to use the pre-war experience of the USSR and Germany. Moscow and Berlin were able to prepare for a big war for several years. Rebuild the economy, raise the military-industrial complex, create a first-class Armed Forces, fundamental science, research and development, a system of patriotic education and training, personnel. After all, you need to recreate everything that has been consistently destroyed for 30 years.


    This paragraph is just a "paragraph". You don't have to comment. belay I don't believe in the rebirth of demons for 40 years.
    Here Hermann 4223 looks at the world more realistically "But we cannot do normal preparation yet, we have no sovereignty to do it."
  20. Siegfried
    Siegfried April 19 2021 19: 59
    +2
    Nothing goes to any war! Neither Turkey, nor the United States, and even more so the Europeans do not want and will not fight now with Russia in order to overcome some kind of "capitalist" crisis. And to understand this, it is enough to know that a war with Russia to a victorious end is simply impossible! It is possible only until the next stage of escalation, and these are tactical nuclear charges. That is, the biggest thing you can count on is a limited campaign in a limited area and lasting no more than 3-4 days. Everything else is impossible and belongs to pure fantasy.
    1. Decimalegio
      Decimalegio April 19 2021 20: 24
      +3
      Thank you for explaining the situation perfectly. But in this forum full of heroes and keyboardists, they dream of a war that won't happen. I seem to be reading Tatar Desert by Dino Buzzati.
  21. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 19 2021 20: 03
    0
    The Celestial Empire can reach the level of "great harmony" only with the spiritual influence of Russian civilization.
    Artel "Samsonov" does not get tired of giving birth to pearls in patriotic sweat. Without Russian spirituality, of course, the poor Chinese will not deal with their frost and me a damn thing. Everything, damn it, the "big brother" complex itches?
    1. xorek
      xorek April 19 2021 20: 25
      -6
      Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      The Celestial Empire can reach the level of "great harmony" only with the spiritual influence of Russian civilization.
      Artel "Samsonov" does not get tired of giving birth to pearls in patriotic sweat. Without Russian spirituality, of course, the poor Chinese will not deal with their frost and me a damn thing. Everything, damn it, the "big brother" complex itches?

      What is it? Happenes .. bully What liberal can you suggest? All to hand over and bring down from this country .. Everything is familiar in our history, unleash the bloody turmoil and dump the tearful memoirs to write abroad .. well, well
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 19 2021 20: 57
        -2
        Quote: xorek
        To hand over everything and throw it out of this country ..

        You, Meehan, were last offered to dump, I think, when you stuck your trough in a disabled parking lot. Or on the lawn. Because people like you, screamers "Razseyushka !! ... Guys !! ... Parrrvu for Russia !! ... Death is liberal !!!" in everyday life, ordinary boorish goons with an inferiority complex. And do not whine about "bloody turmoil". God forbid it starts - as Warren Buffet used to say - the low tide will show who swam without panties. So don't be without cowards, Meehan.
      2. lucul
        lucul April 19 2021 21: 01
        -4
        Well, it happens .. bully What can you offer a liberal? Hand over everything and bring it down from this country

        So Katz (Paragraph ) ALWAYS offers to surrender)))
        1. andrew42
          andrew42 April 20 2021 17: 15
          -3
          That's why he and Katz, - offered to surrender, nervously swayed in his chair, but the "life-giving" bag was pressed to his tummy.
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 18: 24
          0
          Quote: lucul
          So Katz (Paragraph) ALWAYS suggests giving up)))

          The most incomprehensible thing for me is when a Jew begins to exercise his anti-Semitism in order to lick the titular nation and pass for his own. Why are you doing this? Do you really want to look Russian, Vitalik?
          1. lucul
            lucul April 20 2021 20: 22
            -6
            The most incomprehensible thing for me is when a Jew begins to exercise his anti-Semitism in order to lick the titular nation and pass for his own. Why are you doing this? Do you really want to look Russian, Vitalik?

            Because you're wrong)))
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 20: 23
              -1
              Quote: lucul
              Because you're wrong)))

              Because of what?
              1. lucul
                lucul April 20 2021 20: 27
                -5
                Because of what?

                About that
                I really want to look Russian

                I don't need to look, I already am)))
    2. lucul
      lucul April 19 2021 21: 00
      +1
      Without Russian spirituality,

      Can't master what it is? ))))
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 19 2021 21: 13
        -3
        Quote: lucul
        Without Russian spirituality,

        Can't master what it is? ))))

        Well, why - according to Samsonov - is this some kind of esoteric substance that will finally open the Chinese people, forgive me, narrow eyes and help the enlightenment of the "younger (ha-ha!) Brothers", as well as the achievement of harmony by them, basurmans with a powerful economy. Missing, like a puzzle. The union will be strong and productive - from them the economy, from us - the spiritual basis and the export of all kinds of fasteners. Tremble, America. laughing
        1. andrew42
          andrew42 April 20 2021 19: 16
          -1
          For Samsonov, this is just a mistake, an erroneous intermediate conclusion. Will fix it. The one who does nothing is not mistaken. And also the one who exercises exclusively in mocking "eloquence", bringing pseudo-intellectual show off to incredible heights.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 19: 18
            -1
            Quote: andrew42
            It will be corrected.

            You seem to be a lover of folklore, no? Well, how can you not remember that humpback ... and further in the text. However, such as the "Samsonov" artel quite successfully change their shoes.
      2. Titus_2
        Titus_2 April 20 2021 16: 14
        -1
        We still have similar braces ..
    3. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 18: 19
      -1
      This is due to the lack of information on China. Forgivable. Recoverable. But the Russian ethnos cannot live without spirituality. However, to whom am I telling this. This is not your concern. Rather, the opposite is true.
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 18: 40
        -1
        Quote: andrew42
        But the Russian ethnos cannot live without spirituality.

        First, explain what set of braces you mean by this.
        Quote: andrew42
        However, to whom am I saying this?

        Well, you will take the trouble to briefly explain to a non-adept of your sect. For messianic purposes, so to speak. I have all the attention.
        1. andrew42
          andrew42 April 20 2021 18: 46
          -1
          With Samsonov, for example, I would have discussed this topic. With you - thank you. Beads for ejection. The cumulative position from your posts has been all too well known to me for several years. I don't see the point.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 18: 57
            -1
            Quote: andrew42
            With Samsonov, for example, I would have discussed this topic. With you - thank you.

            Weak. You know perfectly well that the "Samsonov" artel does not come out to bow after their cheap plays, risking being booed. And she certainly didn’t give up any "discussions" (just like that - in quotes). This is not the "position of the author", but the usual conformist order, so that the dumbheads from Roskomnadzor do not sniff at the site. I am alien to all this conspiracy with "Prigozhin bots", but, in metaphorical terms, the Samsonov artel is like that)
            Quote: andrew42
            Beads for ejection.

            Really read Hesse ??? But no, it seemed ... laughing
            1. andrew42
              andrew42 April 20 2021 19: 25
              -1
              Himself a weakling. I am well aware of these taps into third-party topics. As well as switching from the essence of the problem, to the personality, up to defamation. Can you develop an analogue of the Confucian Code on your knees right now? - It will be fat. And the young romantic Hermann Hesse really formulated a thought worthy of a Man for all time: "I consider myself a patriot, but above all I am a man, and when one does not coincide with the other, I always take the side of a man."
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 19: 28
                -1
                Quote: andrew42
                And the young romantic Hermann Hesse really formulated

                And, I see, climbed into Wikipedia? )) Well, my educational mission was a success laughing
                1. andrew42
                  andrew42 April 20 2021 19: 48
                  -1
                  Repetition is the mother of learning. It's always nice to refresh your mind on clever thoughts that intelligent people have successfully formulated. It's better than juggling the names of the books you have read (?).
                  1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 20: 13
                    -1
                    Quote: andrew42
                    Repeat the mother of learning.

                    Right. If you have something to repeat.
                    Quote: andrew42
                    It's always nice to refresh your mind on smart thoughts.

                    Strangers. And skin them.
                2. andrew42
                  andrew42 April 20 2021 19: 52
                  -1
                  In general, I am starting this fruitless squabble. As Bumbarash used to say: "You, Gavrila, have yours. And I have yours ..."
                  1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 20: 12
                    -1
                    Quote: andrew42
                    In general, I am starting this fruitless squabble. As Bumbarash used to say: "You, Gavrila, have yours. And I have yours ..."

                    This is wise. Goodbye.
  22. Decimalegio
    Decimalegio April 19 2021 20: 33
    0
    Sorry, do you really want to ally with China? Do you know Americans as enemies and Chinese as friends? In Italy they say: “I will take care of the enemies, but God will protect me from my friends.
  23. g1v2
    g1v2 April 19 2021 20: 37
    -3
    And if you look closely at all the actions of the Sultan, it turns out that he and Uncle Vova are simply rolling agreements. All absolutely actions of the Sultan since 16 in fact turn out to be useful both to us and to the Turks. Therefore, the Turkish stream and s400 and tourism. request There are graters in some controversial areas, but in general, Erdogan is mega-useful to us. request
    1. xorek
      xorek April 19 2021 20: 51
      -8
      Quote: g1v2
      And if you look closely at all the actions of the Sultan, it turns out that he and Uncle Vova are simply rolling agreements. All absolutely actions of the Sultan since 16 in fact turn out to be useful both to us and to the Turks. Therefore, the Turkish stream and s400 and tourism. request There are graters in some controversial areas, but in general, Erdogan is mega-useful to us. request

      They wrote well what that is in this .. hi What kind of agreement is there. ..For all the tricks of Erdogan, Putin keeps mum and smiles slyly
    2. ALARI
      ALARI April 19 2021 21: 09
      -4
      Suppose Erdogan throws Ukraine at the most interesting and intimate moment to please us, how will Russia pay him off interestingly? Even the chiriy will not jump up just like that. Tourism gas and tomatoes will not be enough, territories will be needed.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 April 19 2021 21: 50
        +1
        The Turks and I have interests in ten places. There is always an option to move somewhere, and to push somewhere. Libya, for example.
        And about throwing, so the Sultan is not going to fight with us. These are stories. But the Clown is pushed to stupidity. Like "Don't drift, I'm with you, but I've done this 100 times and all that." The Turks have Mejlis members there, who are controlled by the MIT special service and who are already creating their own enclave in the Kherson region. The weaker the dill is, the stronger they are.
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  25. xorek
    xorek April 19 2021 20: 49
    -3
    The union of Russia and China allows humanity to get out of the current impasse caused by the victory of capitalism and the consumer society.

    Well, I agree here ... Although you need to be very careful with China, they are still traders ..
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 17: 17
      0
      Any "joint" project with China will eventually become a Chinese project. Personally learned and learned.
  26. Alexander Vorontsov
    Alexander Vorontsov April 19 2021 20: 53
    +2
    Russia interrupts flights with Turkey. Millions of people who were planning to go on vacation abroad are unhappy.

    In general, it is wild to me that my compatriots are resting there after all that has happened.
    You can have at least a grain of self-respect.

    It would be good if, after Peshkov, the flow of Tourists to Turkey would drop to zero without any artificial measures.

    And so, alas, our people show that you can wipe your feet on them, and kill in the back with a compatriot.

    Wildness for me.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 20 2021 18: 47
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
      It would be good if, after Peshkov, the flow of Tourists to Turkey would drop to zero without any artificial measures.

      A strange fantasy. The goons who drag their carcasses into the Turkish olincclusive, sorry, do not care about such details of Russian-Turkish relations. When they return from vacation to their Myxocrank, they will again become patriots and guardians of the Russian woman.
      Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
      And so, alas, our people show that you can wipe your feet on them,

      That is, let the Crimean resort business woman with its inadequate prices for the service wipe his feet on him?
  27. lopvlad
    lopvlad April 19 2021 20: 53
    +1
    Zelenskiy enlisted the support of the Turkish Sultan Erdogan. Turkey has promised to defend the territorial integrity, independence and sovereignty of Ukraine. Help restore the territorial integrity of Ukraine, the de-occupation of Crimea and Sevastopol, the territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.


    what is written above is a violent fantasy of the author, but the real statement of the Turkish authorities is

    “Now there are problems in Donbass, but there are Minsk agreements. We offer the parties to solve this problem peacefully and diplomatically. Turkey supports the territorial integrity of any country - Ukraine, Russia and everyone else. And we are building relations with both Russia and Ukraine. Our relations between each of the countries should not affect relations with other countries. In the misunderstanding between Ukraine and Russia, we do not support any side, "said Mr. Cavusoglu
  28. Hagen
    Hagen April 19 2021 21: 04
    +1
    Only China remains, which needs a solid rear in its confrontation with the United States.

    China even benefits from a confrontation between Russia and Europe. The Chinese understand that there will be no war in its hot phase. And the economic confrontation between Russia and the EU will make China the only big trading partner. China as a whole does not care about all other civilizations except its own. And he doesn't need an ally. So, apart from ad hoc agreements, we have nothing to catch with China. One way or another, we will arrive at a mobilization economy. And the main investor in it will be only ... ourselves.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 17: 23
      0
      Hagen, I agree with you completely! Nobody needs us as a partner, but only as meat. Trust and hope NOT ON SOMEONE, except yourself. And the mobilization economy (the question is to what extent) is inevitable. But this will either require a change in ideology already at the start, or it will lead to such a change in the process of mobilization (the objective process is purely like in 1917, leaving behind a tangle of forces and interests).
      1. Hagen
        Hagen April 20 2021 17: 36
        +1
        Quote: andrew42
        Nobody needs us as a partner,

        I would correct here - they are not needed as an ally. Here I would add that we do not really need China as an ally. Their mentality does not imply equality between the interests of China and anyone else. They, too, strive for a dominant role in all respects. And we already have a partnership with them. In principle, all our contracting parties are partners. The contract ended, and the partnership ended. And no matter how they laugh at Putin's expressions, he is very precise in his words. After all, a partner is a participant in any joint activity. And there is no place for sympathy, love, betrayal, unity in views on history, etc. So the USA is our partners in some areas of our activity.
        1. andrew42
          andrew42 April 20 2021 18: 13
          +1
          Yes, I don’t argue. I myself can tell a lot about Zhong Guo. And the partners are really partners, - danced the sirtaki, - one cut off the other's wallet, and the other one slammed the first one. that's what partners are for. :)
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  32. Gato
    Gato April 19 2021 21: 16
    +1
    Pathetic, more than controversial, and in some places outright delirium:
    This minimal socialism, multiplied by the ideology of Russian nationalism (the national question and migration), a variant of state-monopoly capitalism, will allow in the shortest possible time to restore the defense capability and autocracy, the autarky of the Russian state and people.

    How socialism, autocracy and state-monopoly capitalism can copulate in one head - I don't understand belay
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 17: 33
      0
      Gato, this is an interesting question. But we don't understand a lot of things. Until the second half of the 2th century, the term "capitalism" was absent. Until the beginning of the 19th century, there was no concept of "socialism" (well, if you do not take utopians like Owen and Saint-Simon). But there is an even more interesting question: why did socialism (omit the nuances) break through and win in Russia, and nowhere else? - And the answer is simple - deep archetypes and national mentality. On the other hand, why "pure Marxism" is rejected - from the fact that the "masses" with whom the terry materialists operate do not want to be these very "masses", this is definitely not in Russian. So do not cling to the cliché standards that are already known. Public life is a living stream.
  33. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 19 2021 21: 25
    -3
    The author writes: "News is coming in about the appearance of Polish and Turkish military in Donbass. The Turkish military are similar to special forces, apparently aimed at coordinating the actions of militants from the Middle East. The Ukrainian special services, with the help of their Turkish colleagues, are recruiting mercenaries in Syria."
    Semyon Pegov can be congratulated, they refer to him as the classics of Marxism-Leninism) Samsonov simply had no time to write that the author of this "news" is Semyon Pegov and Wargonzo (owned by Aram Gabrielyanov) who are "famous" in Karabakh for their only "truthful" information, which caused a shock to the entire Armenian society after the Armenians learned the truth.
    Yandex, Voennoe Delo and others write: "WarGonzo announced the arrival of 150 Turkish servicemen in Donbass," and so on.
    Sources:
    https://voennoedelo.com/posts/id11159-nwaup3mts8lqwog1cuew
    https://yandex.ru/news/instory/WarGonzo_soobshhil_opribytii_150_tureckikh_voennosluzhashhikh_vDonbass--fc8e36d72d53d9437b73141bc8c76686
    1. RuslanNN
      RuslanNN April 20 2021 11: 30
      0
      Well, what are the words of Pegov, everyone saw during the war in Karabakh, how he bravely held Hadrut with Armenian soldiers, smashed Syrian mercenaries, Turkish special forces and aliens helping them in the "hellish gorge" he invented, and the Azerbaijani army at that time took Shusha and I almost didn't reach Khankendi, Vladimir Vladimirovich stopped the war on time. In a situation where France, the United States and other NATO countries are imposing sanctions against Turkey, Erdogan is not suicidal to quarrel with Russia. The drones were sold to Ukrainians - a business, apparently in exchange for Motor Sich, the Turks really need engines. And Erdogan will not get involved in a war with Russia, he is not a suicide.
  34. Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 19 2021 21: 33
    +1
    It is necessary to use the experience of Germany after 1933, when industrial money was issued. Their turnover is rigidly tied to industrial production, interest for the use of money was not charged. It is strange, as far as I remember from the remark "Black Obelisk", hyperinflation in Germany was stopped with the help of the so-called. "bread mark" (also known as a rental mark)
    The rental mark was not officially the state currency. Minted by the law 1924 years of the coin in its value corresponded to the "gold mark" equal to 1⁄2790 kg of pure gold. Therefore, you should not draw parallels to the victory of the NSDAP and the victory over hyperinflation - this is absolutely wrong. After the introduction of the "bread brand", investments began to flow into Germany. That is why some German factories that produced military products brought profit to the United States (more precisely to the American hucksters. They also brought profit from military supplies to the allies, designed to fight German weapons - they snatched everywhere). The Reichsmark was also introduced in parallel, and then the occupation marks. Before coming to power, members of the NSDAP (stormtroopers) generally received salaries in Swiss currency - hello to the ever-neutral and mutually enriching.
    The article contains a lot of unreliable data -
    Turkey has promised to defend the territorial integrity, independence and sovereignty of Ukraine. Help restore the territorial integrity of Ukraine, de-occupation of Crimea and Sevastopol, the territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Where does the infa come from? I am aware of Erdogan's diplomatic support for the territory. integrity of Ukraine. I know about the military-technical - they will not sell equipment only to the Kurds for money.

    The author is whipping up. But we remember the Turks historically, firstly, and secondly, we know that we have only two allies - Petrov and Basharov. So we won't go to pogroms.
  35. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart April 19 2021 21: 36
    +5
    1) China will throw us with joy as soon as Uncle Sam offers him a package of temporary concessions. Because they know very well that in case of refusal, Uncle Sam will come to us and here the raw materials specialists will not refuse him.
    2) Erdo has a Middle Eastern zagashnik where there are much more benefits and interests than from some kind of mythical war with us. All Erdo's plans run up against $$$ and fast, while his economic underbelly is not in such good condition to throw himself into long and muddy multi-moves against us.
    3) Where is the confidence that pro-Western forces will come to power in our country and in the Blr in the course of the Orange Revolution? Did Baba Vanga whisper this to you? During the February Revolution, some forces came to power, during the October Revolution, others - the revolution is such a fragile thing .. At the moment, in our society there is NO dominant political force. EdRo is a rather blurred bunch of bureaucrats constantly rushing between near-right activities and near-law demagoguery - so this is not a political "force", it is just a "heap" that has long since lost the remnants of any ideology and "power over minds" resources and a well-functioning state apparatus and $$$ keep this party at the top. Outside EdRa, our society has long been in a dangerous state separating "public policy" and "non-public", which has been "ripening" for 9 years, still being in a state of elusive direction. Today, relatively speaking, these people can be with Navalny, tomorrow they may be disappointed in his methods and a more radical figure may appear - right, left, but at least some. Now it sounds amazing, but remember the 90s, how many demons suddenly crawled out of a society that seemed so monolithic and amorphous yesterday.
    4)
    It is necessary to use the pre-war experience of the USSR and Germany. Moscow and Berlin were able to prepare for a big war for several years. Rebuild the economy, raise the military-industrial complex, create a first-class Armed Forces, fundamental science, research and development, a system of patriotic education and training, personnel. After all, you need to recreate everything that has been consistently destroyed for 30 years.

    Does it not occur to you that society is terribly tired of militarism? In 2018, there was a kind of peak, the swan song of the "Crimean Spring" - since then these motifs have been pouring from zombies all over the country - but I no longer feel hurray-euphoria. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge, a lot has changed, the layer of butter on the bread has become even thinner, a fresh positive agenda has not been brought up. Our agitprop took too high an octave, too early (or, on the contrary, too late?) - now you can pluck your throat as much as you like - we are in 2021 and people are asking the question, "What have we got with the 2020 strategy?" And other interesting questions. No, the drum won't be able to divert attention.
    5) the same "insidious west" in the current conditions is a golden cornucopia that generously floods our greedy consumer society with products that are for the most part unbearable for our resource-based economy. The same "pernicious Europe" buys from us products and resources worth many billions of dollars, and sells accordingly. And the positive balance, after all, is in our favor - our bourgeoisie and the state spend on all sorts of funny gizmos, from which any accounting department would have demolished the cuckoo diagonally. Ask yourself a question - what will happen if tomorrow we turn off the taps and make a stern face "a la a worker from a Soviet poster" - do you think our society will withstand such a trick with our ears?) Find a larger social group in the country that will benefit from this trick and who there will be enough resources to contain the pressure of other groups that are not profitable - until they build ... what by the way? Totalitarian right-left Mordor, who will show the world "kuzka's mother"? or some abstract "strong state" that will lose 20 more demographics until it becomes such in the throes of another "turning point".

    The sadness of the current situation is that it is stinky. The government is not ready to change, society is pampered, history is chewed up, values ​​are devalued, everything that could be slandered is slandered. In difficult times, people look around and look with their eyes for the Power to which they can grasp and become stronger themselves. And they do not see such power. But I don't know which would be worse - so, or if they saw her ..
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 19 2021 23: 15
      -1
      “And people are asking the question“ what do we have with the 2020 strategy? ”But nothing - the 2020 strategy was covered with a copper basin in the same year in which it was adopted - in 2008 due to the global economic crisis, which hit the Russian economy well and since 2014 the second its implementation also failed due to the sanctions falling oil prices and the flight of foreign investors from our market.
      “The need to develop a second version of the KDR-2020 was due to the global financial and economic crisis of 2008. Despite the fact that until the fall of 2008 it affected only developed countries, the KDR was approved after the economic crisis broke out in Russia itself. The CRA turned out to be irrelevant immediately after its adoption.The crisis led to a sharp and deep drop in economic indicators and made it impossible to achieve most of the quantitative indicators expected from the CRA-2020 of the first stage calculated for implementation for the period 2007-2012. CRA assumed:

      increase in life expectancy by 2,5 years;
      GDP growth by 37 — 38%;
      labor productivity growth by 40–41%;
      reducing the energy intensity of GDP by 17-19%;
      growth of real disposable incomes of the population - by 53-54%;
      growth of investments in fixed assets by 80-85%, etc. "
      As of 2018, none of these targets have been met. Due to the departmental nature of the development of the CRA, which entailed the blurring of its number of provisions, it only indicated the quantitative indicators that were supposed to be achieved. The problems directly facing the Russian economy and society, as well as specific ways or steps to solve them or to achieve the goals set have not been identified and analyzed. "
      Now there is a program for 2030 investments in the Russian economy in all its sectors of about 100 trillion rubles of public and private investments in accordance with the May decrees, national projects, etc. - to ensure GDP growth by 5% per year - a task that is quite realizable under current conditions.
      One of 3000 large investment production projects
      "Construction of facilities for the production of polyethylene terephthalate (thermoplastic, used mainly for the production of plastic bottles) and bottling of drinking water" Etana "in Kabardino-Balkaria
      The project provides for the production of 5 billion liters of water per year; by 2030, the total production capacity should reach 60 billion liters. The money in the project will be invested by Chinese banks, the investors are the state corporations of China.

      The basic design of the first stage of the polymer complex [production of polyethylene terephthalate with a volume of 500 thousand tons per year] has been completed, an investment application has been prepared, which has passed the stage of preliminary banking expertise, an EPC contract has been signed for the construction and launch of production of the first stage, and funding limits have been determined.
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart April 20 2021 00: 22
        +3
        5% per year ... optimism is good ..
        But it's hard to believe. Our economic development is now firmly imprinted on the issue of a real fight against corruption and the issue of drastic legislative improvement. We are not planning any improvements other than purely demagogic ones in neither field. All this + sanctions + the fact that we are deeply stuck in 2 side conflict situations + a post-pandemic decline in world production = does not give me personally a reason for optimism a year before 2023. Of course we'll have a look there ..
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 20 2021 16: 52
          0
          "5% a year ... optimism is good." For this year, GDP growth is expected to be in the region of 2 to 3% - so 5% does not seem to be something impossible - completely realistic for the next three four years. The growth of the world economy for this year is predicted in the region of 4%.
  36. Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 19 2021 23: 15
    +2
    And, again, some kind of childish idealism. Zero facts, analytics and statistics too.
    Some are general: it is necessary, necessary, necessary ... and everything is absolutely unreal.

    They have already prophesied the war for the whole 18 year, and the 19th, and 15th March, and 3 April, and 15-20 April ... but to the frenzy of the media, Ukraine did not come to the war ...
    Maybe the YEDRA elections in the fall caused a spring aggravation?
  37. depressant
    depressant April 20 2021 00: 05
    +3
    Mr. Samsonov ...
    So you say:
    War requires a strong economy. It is necessary to use the experience of Germany after 1933, when industrial money was issued. Their turnover is rigidly tied to industrial production, interest for the use of money was not charged. They cannot be cashed, sent for other purposes, since this money is not a means of payment. Money is not tied to any of the world's currencies. The ban on the export of capital. Thus, it is necessary to create a non-cash circulation of money by sectors of the economy, without the possibility of cash out budget funds. Eliminate loan interest in the state money circulation, except for cash and the export of capital of concessions, where interest is a financial tax for the use of money, resources and their turnover. The ruble is tied to the entire national treasure during the nationalization of resources, subsoil and land, ceases to have dollar and other currency content (except for a fixed gold).

    You say this is the experience of Germany in 1933? Put on the cross! This is a word for word double-circuit Stalinist economy, adopted for implementation since 1930. The very two contours, some elements of which, having made sure of their success in the USSR, slowly, without advertising, without naming the source, were first introduced by Japan, and then other capitalist countries, taking into account the national characteristics of industrial production. What the Japanese ambassador sarcastically told our leaders when, in the 90s, they obsequiously began to ask him how it happened that Japan so rushed up in the development and development of advanced technologies.
  38. Pastor
    Pastor April 20 2021 08: 40
    -1
    The meaning of the capitalist structure of the economy is in the development of new sales markets, cheap labor and resources. This is possible only if Russia turns from the vector of independent development into direct vassal subordination. It's like in the yard: if you want to be independent, go in for boxing, have good friends or get ready to be beaten by the local punks.
  39. EvilLion
    EvilLion April 20 2021 08: 41
    0
    Samsonov is immediately visible. I'm wondering, when for so many years the military budget was growing and the army was saturated with weapons, in Samsonov's opinion, what is it? Although it is useless to appeal to the minds of hysterics, both red and liberal.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 17: 56
      0
      And where does the red one? Where did you dig them up in relation to the military budget? I'm easy, not even on my fingers. and with one finger, I will explain why "for so many years the military budget has been growing and the army has been saturated with weapons." - Because the bourgeois gas station needs good physical protection, otherwise the brothers from the "shining city on the hill" are looking at this vein. And the fact that the population with thoughts of Poseidons and Vanguards began to fall asleep more calmly is a weak side effect, he will not add a salary to a turner, and he will not motivate to design / manufacture new machines for the production of at least high-quality hardware, because the demand for this has been destroyed a priori, - "a violinist is not needed" and we are all "violinists" too. Classics of the genre: our higher bourgeoisie after TWENTY (!!!) years have thought, WHAT is this wood we do not process at least into semi-finished products? !! - We need to think about it, otherwise poaching trifles on dispatches across the cordon knocks money down. Well, in a year we’ll solve the ban on round timber, where the guys we know have to decide by this time where to re-capitalize. The bard Shaov has such lines at the root: "And the girls got up in a round dance. In an open field there are two cows and an oil pipeline. And oil is healthier than milk. So everything, the paragraph to the cows, is dialectics!" And you are here, why the military budget, why the military-industrial complex! Everything is much worse and more serious.
  40. Kolin
    Kolin April 20 2021 08: 49
    +2
    It seems the author's coke was expired
  41. mongol9999
    mongol9999 April 20 2021 08: 50
    +2
    The article ends with a strange delirium ... The Celestial Empire can reach the level of "great harmony" only with the spiritual influence of Russian civilization ...
    Throughout the centuries, the Chinese have lost wars and assimilated the conquerors in their spirituality.

    Notable all-popular article. Author, bought buckwheat? And I bought. :-)
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 18: 32
      0
      There really is "Earth flies into the celestial axis" and "some kind of Mandryan" (from the movie "Heart of a Dog"). Our civilizations (ours and the Taoists) have no common spiritual roots. The maximum that can be is peaceful coexistence. As a rule, - For the time being, for the time being. But what about China's "digestion" is not so simple. When you "digest" someone, you change yourself. And here is the big question: have you successfully digested a batch of "northern barbarians", or have northern barbarians planted part of their mentality. In the end, the First Earth Emperor Yao is portrayed as a green-eyed, tall man with a long dark blond beard who caught a local (there was no China-fence then) boy, and taught / forced to sow rice so that he would not engage in indecent deeds.
  42. comradChe
    comradChe April 20 2021 08: 52
    0
    To whom is this advice directed? To a gang of marauders? To the undertakers of the "Russian spring"?
  43. Bastinda
    Bastinda April 20 2021 08: 54
    +1
    The former military were frightened by the ease with which the president changes the laws of the country and, in fact, follows the path of eliminating the secular state.

    Turks are cowards! Now ours changes the laws, the constitution, and no one is afraid! laughing
  44. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 April 20 2021 08: 55
    +1
    Quote: Yuriy71
    “All that Russia needs to put things in order is to give a command to the people - to put things in order. And believe me, in an instant all these“ Russian breakers ”will calm down.” ... Who will give this command? The president? The Liberal Government Grown by Him? There was no political will, and there is still no! All responses to sanctions are Ridiculous! Yes, you forbid them ...., the export of strategic raw materials and materials .... Yes, in the end - the passage through the territory of Russia of all aircraft, the countries of the Alliance! Let them fly from Britain to Australia - via Africa or something else! Answers - REALLY A LOT !!! Only NOBODY WANTS to answer!

    Russia needs the same tough leader of Stalin's level to restore order. for treason is the highest measure. for participation in illegal actions - not just a fine, but deprivation of all sorts of benefits. something like this
  45. silver_roman
    silver_roman April 20 2021 09: 38
    +2
    It is also possible and necessary to consider the option of non-suppression of war. For this it is necessary to shift the focus from the Donbass. Something like troops and missiles in Cuba. Otherwise, sitting on the defensive, we wait for the inevitable
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 April 20 2021 18: 02
      +1
      Plus for the idea. But for the execution, sorry, twofold. Donbass is part of a hybrid war, and missiles in Mexico are of no help here. The defense should also be hybrid, but about the counteroffensive, you are right. But such a counter-offensive sprays Conceptually, then Mentally, then Ideologically, and only then from the feet to the kidneys. and palms over the ears.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman April 20 2021 22: 42
        0
        reciprocated wink
        the point is to create a problem for the enemy and thereby shift the "center of gravity" from Donbass. It's just not a joke already. Russian people live there, our people.
  46. zloybond
    zloybond April 20 2021 10: 15
    +1
    The surge in prices should not be associated with Turkey. Prices in the country as a whole are growing. As a rule, they grow from fuel, food products followed, utilities are stable, services are tightened. So here the author should not tie the problem of greed in the oil industry to Turkey.
  47. ramzay21
    ramzay21 April 20 2021 10: 19
    +2
    Russia's main problem is its leadership and oligarchs. Oligarchs, like officials, have long had a second citizenship of NATO countries, while Putin was appointed to defend the interests of the West and the oligarchs who are their governors here. They will only fight for the interests of the Rotenbergs or Timchenko with Usmanov.
  48. Volder
    Volder April 20 2021 11: 28
    0
    Quote: Samsonov Alexander
    Therefore, Ankara became a participant in the war in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Karabakh. Moreover, Turkey's successes in these wars are obvious.
    No, not obvious. The successes of Russia are obvious. And Turkey without Russia would have had no success.
    The task with the help of military alert and local hostilities is to cause a powerful internal crisis in Ukraine, Belarus and the Russian Federation. A war, even a limited one, will cause a new wave of rising prices for food, consumer goods, clothing, electronics, gasoline, etc.
    It's clear with Ukraine. But what does Russia have to do with it ?? We do not depend on Ukraine in terms of food, clothing, electronics, and even more so gasoline. Russia has food independence and agriculture has been hitting records in the past few years by increasing exports. Russia is fighting in Syria, but there is no crisis inside the country because of this. The author had strange fantasies.
    Further, a split in the Russian elite is possible, a rebellion of its pro-Western part. An attempt to revolt the regions.
    What caused the split? Due to the fact that there is no need to help Donbass to repel the attack of the Ukrainian aggressor? This is funny. There are Westerners at the top, but they do not make strategic and military decisions. If they rebel, they will immediately lose their posts. Well, about the riot in the regions ... Ukraine has already gotten everyone so bad that all Russians will be happy with the end of the buzz that has been going on since 2014. The abscess needs to be opened and a plaster applied.
    Kiev, under pressure from the West, can at any time launch an invasion of Donbass and arrange provocations on the Crimean borders.
    Kiev without the physical support of the West, NATO is unlikely to dare to attack. Otherwise I would have done it a long time ago. But it doesn't. Therefore, "any moment" exists only in the mind of the author.
  49. okrd
    okrd April 20 2021 11: 54
    0
    Nazi Germany armed itself with the money of American bankers if that. Industrial money, yeah. In the first Stalinist five-year plans, entire factories were built according to American drawings and American specialists. Both sides were thoroughly prepared for the war. When the threat of the defeat of the USSR arose, they supported the lend-lease.
    Right now, Russian military hardware is being built on German and Czech machine tools, partly from imported components with dire sanctions. The USSR was at one time divided, people were coached against each other, they made sure that they had weapons. Let's fight, but what is it? The surplus bottom people in both countries must be put somewhere. And so the machine in the teeth and forward, for the homeland. We will prepare the economy, you understand, we will export even more raw materials into an aggressive environment. Putin's elite will definitely build military factories with offshore money, yeah. The economy is already in a half-dead state, and the war, of course, will help it a lot. It will just prepare the next perestroika and a new Marshall plan for the remnants of Russia. Nobody is interested in capturing and enslaving Russia, not those times.
    About Erdogan. The genius of the mnogohodovok turned him against himself, when for some reason he climbed into the zone of interests of Turkey in northern Syria. Before that, everything was fine, the Turks were even going to invest in Crimea, they provided the Syrian express. And then a stab in the back, what a surprise!
  50. Hottabych
    Hottabych April 20 2021 12: 09
    +3
    Well what can I say? The author of the article is a Brekhun and a Provocateur with a capital letter. Think objectively: Turkey is already present in Syria, Libya, Iraq, and these are all hot spots. No matter how the author is afraid of Turkey, Turkey will not get involved in a much more serious conflict in Ukraine. Their economy is bursting at the seams, they will not stand it)