Upgraded Serbian howitzer "Nora" was fired before testing in the USA

As part of the selection of a self-propelled artillery unit for the American army, organized by the Pentagon, which began in August last year, a test cycle of the Nora B-52 M21 howitzer, manufactured in Serbia, will take place in the United States in the near future. Upgraded Serbian self-propelled howitzer "Nora" was fired before testing in the United States.

This is reported by the Polish portal Defense 24.

To participate in the tests, manufacturers of 155 mm caliber artillery systems on a wheeled chassis will arrive at the test site. All applicants will have to pre-pass tests with the participation of US military personnel. As a result, a system will be selected that will go into service with the American army.

The Nora B-52 M21 is the latest version of the Serbian Nora family of self-propelled howitzers, developed by the Military Technical Institute of Belgrade and manufactured at the Complex Combat Systems plant, which is part of the Yugoimport concern. The system is armed with a 155 mm gun and a barrel length equal to 52 calibers. The self-propelled gun meets NATO standards, although a 152 mm cannon can also be installed on it. The rate of fire of the howitzer is six rounds per minute, and the effective range of fire is 25 kilometers for standard ammunition and 41 kilometers for jet ammunition.

During the modernization, among other things, the original chassis, based on the Russian KamAZ, was replaced by a German MAN, and an automatic firing system was introduced.

Comments

[V1er]

This is some kind of surrealism. Serbs decided to supply the USA with their artillery?

[OgnennyiKotik]

What's the problem? What fought? So everybody in Europe fought everybody at one time. Britain also fought with the United States, so their BAE 3 is the size of the contractor for the Yankees. You can't live in the past, you need to move forward.

And the Serbs are great, they have preserved and are promoting their military-industrial complex. Many interesting, advanced weapons and equipment. Even if they do not win this competition, they will make a good advertisement for themselves.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Serbia Bought Russian ZRPK "Pantsir-S". For real money. No one with an "outstretched hand" did not apply. I understand that you are not a Slav and the Serbs are not your brothers. I understand that you have psychiatric deviations. But I am disgusted with such an appeal to a strong people, whom Russia has betrayed and allowed to be bombed. Even after that, they retained their love for Russia and the Russians.
Serbia is not a rich country and cannot turn up its nose at real money. It does not belong to any blocs and does not fight with anyone. Therefore, it can buy and sell weapons to everyone. If you want not to sell or buy weapons to NATO countries, offer an alternative.

I don't care about personal attacks. You are no one and no way to call you. More precisely, a lot like Ali / PPSh / Dred. Is there any other Nick? You are thrown out of here as unnecessary garbage, then you come back here. Who are you after that?

[Anzhey V.]

It's funny, of course - the minuses were made on the sly, and no one objected to anything about the case.

I'm wondering what, in the opinion of the turbopatriots, the Serbs should do?
Sit and wait for manna from heaven or death from hunger, not trading on principle with the damned Americans? Or how?

[Ivan Kalinovich]

I'm wondering what, in the opinion of the turbopatriots, the Serbs should do?
Sit and wait for manna from heaven or death from hunger, not trading on principle with the damned Americans? Or how?
Yes, sell the "knife" to the enemy, but remember - he will return!

[Anzhey V.]

Yes, sell the "knife" to the enemy, but remember - he will return

Something I did not notice that the United States declared war on Serbia.

Moreover, the Serbs have signed the Status of Forces Agreement - they are, in fact, a member of the NATO bloc.

Why such vivid metaphors, comrade?

[Dread]

Quote: Anjay V.

Yes, sell the "knife" to the enemy, but remember - he will return

Something I did not notice that the United States declared war on Serbia.

Anzhej V. - horror! You do not understand the "elementary things"! The weapon can shoot, including the opposite side - towards Serbia or its allies. Ivan Kalinovich wrote to you correctly.
How old are you? Are you a Pole?

[Anzhey V.]

Are you a Pole?

And you, judging by your nickname, are American? Have you come to sow confusion and play off the fraternal peoples of Russia and Serbia?

[Barberry25]

Then the Albanians need to sell ATGMs.

[Anzhey V.]

Comrade Barberry, let's talk in an adult way, since the Serbs insult you too?

Here you are all lamenting that the Slav brothers are so-and-so, even to trade in arms with the Americans have sunk. But what is the root cause of this?

They have no alternative. And no one gave them an alternative - including us.

As Marx used to say, "politics is the quintessence of economics." And here this principle works in absolutely the same way as elsewhere.

What kind of "brotherhood" and "loyalty" can we talk about if there is no economic motive behind it? Russia from its arms market even squeezes out its closest and last ally in the person of Belarus and the MZKT - it's scary to stutter about some Serbian self-propelled guns here. Who is Serbia's economy tied to? Right, to the European Union. Who gave them money after the war? That's right, American funds.

Brothers-Slavs here, consider, did not stand in any way.

For that matter, we don't even develop cultural ties with them.

[Barberry25]

that's why I say ... why shouldn't the Albanians sell ATGMs ... since "there is no brotherhood." betrayed ".. you will decide whether" brothers and gum "or" all the markets have resolved "..

[Dread]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Serbia Bought Russian ZRPK "Pantsir-S". For real money. None he didn’t address the "outstretched hand" I understand that you are not a Slav and Serbs you are not brothers. I understand that you have psychiatric deviations. But I am disgusted with such an appeal to a strong people, whom Russia has betrayed and allowed to be bombed. Even after that, they retained their love for Russia and the Russians.
Serbia not rich country и can't turn up his nose at real money. It does not belong to any blocs and does not fight with anyone. buy and sell weapons to everyone. If a want what would not sell or buy weapons to countries NATO propose alternative.

OgnennyiKotik - you are an illiterate Internet troll from Ukraine, who does not know the Russian language at all, what does the number of errors in your utterance, which I noted... You, from time to time, write nonsense, not knowing at all and not understanding those on VO. I, unlike you, are Russian, and Russian, and I was born in Murmansk (Russia). And yours
wild saying: "You can't live in the past, you need to move forward." Says that you are not far off in your development, praising Bandera and forgetting about the exploits of their fathers. You here repeatedly write spam from the Internet and spit on Russian equipment, and then write your comments at the end of the discussions, so that you will not get any cons, the forum users have figured out you.
Yesterday they wrote their ignorant nonsense about the Russian radar "Resonance - N", completely ignorant of the topic, and what AWACS is. Therefore, you need to blame VO, not me.
Learn the great Russian Language, not Russian, but Slav (Ukrainian). Your numerous mistakes speak volumes about your ignorance, not to mention the technical issues discussed at VO!

[hirurg]

1- This was reported by the Polish press.
2- the interest of the states in other people's trunks, speaks of the insolvency of their production.
3.- Serbs are not suckers and they consulted with someone.)))

[Barberry25]

or did not consult and sold ..

[Incvizitor]

It was not just the fascist genocide of the people, the collapse of the country, and the murder of the legitimate president that were fought here.

[sedoj]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Even if they do not win this competition, they will make themselves a good advertisement.

If they do not win, then this is already anti-advertising.

[OgnennyiKotik]

No, there are many factors for losing in the competition, not all of them relate to real characteristics. The very fact, the assumptions before full-scale tests (especially of Serbian weapons) suggests that the ACS is advanced.

[Alf]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

The very fact, the assumptions before full-scale tests (especially of Serbian weapons) suggests that the ACS is advanced.

This fact suggests that the US weapons development system is, to put it mildly, crooked.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Not. This suggests that the Army is buying the best weapons. And he holds contests to find out. And he does not buy outright rubbish, only because it is domestic, like some other armies.
Development of the USA. From a series of cheap and cheerful. Obviously airmobile. Although the howitzer itself is super complicated.

One of the best wheeled SPGs from BAE. From the series expensive and super duper.


There is also a variant of a 105 mm howitzer on a light chassis.

[Alf]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

This suggests that the Army is buying the best weapons.

Especially if you remember how many competitions there were to replace the "best in the world" M-16 rifle.
And whose pistols? For example, Beretta-92?
And the weapon on the Abrams is Aryan?

[nks]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Not. This suggests that the Army is buying the best weapons. And he holds contests to find out. And he does not buy outright rubbish, only because it is domestic

Conducts contests ... but if the domestic manufacturer really needs it, then it does not buy from the winners of the competition :)

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Development of the USA. From a series of cheap and cheerful. Obviously airmobile. Although the howitzer itself is super complicated.

There is the gun itself from the same m777. With the same disadvantages, it loses its main advantage - it becomes non-flying mobile :)

[iouris]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

What's the problem? What fought?

They did not "fight", but destroyed their independence.

[V1er]

Serbs are certainly great. But they were genocidal just 20 years ago. They destroyed a huge and powerful country. Even the generation has not changed. And then the same generals who may have suffered from NATO aviation, their families, who died. Are they going to the USA today, to the country that bombed them, in order to sell them weapons? This is the whole sur.

[hikker]

the Americans staged genocide for them, killed a lot of civilians, not much time has passed, and if Th, the Serbs hate amers, but then what are some tricks in the government doing this, this is another reason to kick them in the ass

[Professor]

Quote: V1er

This is some kind of surrealism. Serbs decided to supply the USA with their artillery?

Just don't be a bigger patriot of Serbia than the Serbs themselves. Arms export to NATO partners is a normal practice.

[V1er]

It is the same as if the Germans destroyed the USSR, but its fragments saved the United States from complete destruction. And 20 years later, the USSR (or what was left of it) supplied military products to Germany.

[Professor]

Quote: V1er

It is the same as if the Germans destroyed the USSR, but its fragments saved the United States from complete destruction. And 20 years later, the USSR (or what was left of it) supplied military products to Germany.

Well? Germany and Japan are armed with American weapons, and Russian generals are driving German vehicles.

[Barberry25]

schaz .. they will be thrown, the scheme will be snapped up and passed off as their own, But then they will yell that it is the Russians who are to blame again ..

[xorek]

Oh, the Serbs, they are the USA from these howitzers and they will kill you in case of a conflict .. You got a little from these vultures

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: xorek

Eh Serbs, they are the United States of these howitzers and will kill you in case of conflict

Weapon-grade plutonium, titanium and rocket engines were supplied to the states by Russia, and then there was some sort of Serbia.

[Konstantin Gogolev]

4% uranium by no means can be called weapons grade.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Konstantin Gogolev

4% uranium by no means can be called weapons grade.

And even more so with plutonium. ))) I confused the uranium deal with the plutonium deal.

[svp67]

Interesting artillery installation. It seems that it has an articulated frame design ... it was interesting to compare it with our KSAU "Coalition"

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: svp67

It looks like it has an articulated frame design.

Not. This video shows the SPG better. And so I agree, a very interesting system.

[svp67]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

This video shows the SPG better.

What is her frame survivability? She's concretely bends ...

[sedoj]

No, the competition will not win. The "Nora" has a MZ, and the amers need the loader to always be present. Otherwise, who are the blunders to blame.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: sedoj

"Nora" has MZ, and the amers need the loader to always be present. Otherwise, who are the mistakes to blame.

You will laugh, but this is a fact, if you do not send a projectile so that it would enter the rifling, then a miss in range is guaranteed. Let it be not a loader but a sending one, not the essence.

[Alf]

Quote: sedoj

Otherwise, who are the blunders to blame.

Yes, and the spawn of palm trees must be attached to the case, otherwise all the cars in the states will be burned.

[Konstantin Gogolev]

A shame. How quickly the memory is erased.

[AshPoseidon]

Perhaps the Serbs have forgotten who bombed Belgrade? Or now "Nothing personal. Just business"

[Konstantin Gogolev]

This is what I resent. I am 1/8 Serb. After the "Allied Force" the victims have not been counted - they will die for a long time after depleted uranium.
I don’t understand this. Are the Serbs themselves okay with this?

[Incvizitor]

Some chose to forget, money doesn't smell.

[krillon]

This is a weak argument. The Japanese have experienced the consequences of US nuclear strikes for themselves, nothing, they are friends. Vietnam is actively cooperating after what happened. So we with Germany did not break up after everything, like Israel.

[knn54]

And what about the modernization of the ACS "Paladin"?

[dmitry21]

The knurling is working out a bit ...

[Thrifty]

Yes, memory is a relative thing when there is an opportunity to earn!

[Reserve buildbat]

All applicants must first pass compatibility tests with US military personnel.
And since the Nora howitzer, then the White Rabbit sighting system?
And by the way, judging by the rollers, it only needs a rotating mechanism to turn the tower from the traveling position to the combat one. All firing only along the longitudinal axis without deviations. Unconvincing somehow.

[Alf]

I do not understand something. The US has a very developed military industry, according to them. So what kind of organ of reproduction are they all the time striving to buy something over the hill? Or is the entire power of America's military-industrial complex a bluff? No, the military industry can produce them in thousands of copies, but not create them? I am tormented by vague doubts ...

[D16]

Vague doubts torment me ...

Vasya, it's cheaper. They will not buy guns in Serbia. They will buy a license and do it themselves. Cheap and cheerful compared to BAE.

[Alf]

Quote: D16

Vague doubts torment me ...

Vasya, it's cheaper. They will not buy guns in Serbia. They will buy a license and do it themselves. Cheap and cheerful compared to BAE.

Hello. I mean that the Americans are promoting their military-industrial complex, as "we can do everything," but how to dig, it turns out that "everything" was bought somewhere. Why are they feeding their design bureaus in this situation?

[Alf]

Quote: D16

Vasya, it's cheaper.

Tomorrow you will ?

[Pavel57]

The States will test it, but they will buy it from the Serbs.