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Kiev requested an expansion of the American military presence in Ukraine

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Ukraine has asked the United States to increase the military presence of American troops on the territory of the country, first of all, this concerns instructors participating in the training program for military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This was stated by the Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmygal.


Kiev intends to expand the training program for the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the help of foreign instructors, therefore, requested the expansion of the American mission in Ukraine. According to Shmygal, Kiev wants to involve American instructors not only in training at the Yavoriv training ground in the Lviv region, but in other training centers.

In turn, Washington is not against an increase in the American military presence in Ukraine and, if necessary, will gladly expand its mission.

As US Charge d'Affaires in Ukraine Christina Kvin said, today there are 160 American troops in Ukraine on a permanent basis, but if necessary, their number can be increased.

Currently, the bulk of foreign instructors teaching the Armed Forces of Ukraine are American and Canadian military personnel, the first of whom arrived in Ukraine back in 2015. The main place of training is the Yavoriv training ground in the Lviv region. It was repeatedly reported about the appearance of American instructors in the area of ​​the demarcation line in the Donbass, where, according to the intelligence of the republics, they "took offsets" in practice from trained servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

At the same time, in Kiev, they announced their desire to place an American military base in Ukraine, but for some reason the United States is in no hurry to do this. Most likely, they do not want to finally get involved in a conflict with Russia.
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  1. Oden280
    Oden280 April 16 2021 17: 01
    +7
    Of course, bring more mattress toppers in the hope of hiding behind them, in which case.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN April 16 2021 17: 08
      +1
      Kiev requested an expansion of the American military presence in Ukraine
      Their people would be better fed, these are not hungry, to feed them ... so no, their people do not count at all.
      1. GTYCBJYTH2021
        GTYCBJYTH2021 April 16 2021 17: 20
        -12%
        Quote: NIKNN
        Kiev requested an expansion of the American military presence in Ukraine
        Their people would be better fed, these are not hungry, to feed them ... so no, their people do not count at all.

        The people of Kiev and Ukraine are malnourished, starving ?! And isn't that why sugar in Russia has risen in price so much - 59 rubles a kilo at the bazaar. Yeast bought alcohol-by May 9 the product, I think I will do = my brother-soldiers will call ....... And I will call !!!!!!
        1. Andrey Korotkov
          Andrey Korotkov April 16 2021 17: 47
          -4
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Quote: NIKNN
          Kiev requested an expansion of the American military presence in Ukraine
          Their people would be better fed, these are not hungry, to feed them ... so no, their people do not count at all.

          The people of Kiev and Ukraine are malnourished, starving ?! And isn't that why sugar in Russia has risen in price so much - 59 rubles a kilo at the bazaar. Yeast bought alcohol-by May 9 the product, I think I will do = my brother-soldiers will call ....... And I will call !!!!!!

          What kind of yeast did the lad bought Pressed, dry bakery, dry alcohol, turbo yeast, wine Write quickly I'll run to your bazaar wink
          1. GTYCBJYTH2021
            GTYCBJYTH2021 April 16 2021 18: 14
            0
            Quote: Andrey Korotkov
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            Quote: NIKNN
            Kiev requested an expansion of the American military presence in Ukraine
            Their people would be better fed, these are not hungry, to feed them ... so no, their people do not count at all.

            The people of Kiev and Ukraine are malnourished, starving ?! And isn't that why sugar in Russia has risen in price so much - 59 rubles a kilo at the bazaar. Yeast bought alcohol-by May 9 the product, I think I will do = my brother-soldiers will call ....... And I will call !!!!!!

            What kind of yeast did the lad bought Pressed, dry bakery, dry alcohol, turbo yeast, wine Write quickly I'll run to your bazaar wink

            Man, no offense to you, run. Do not hesitate only ..... I will keep silent about your mind, if there is a mind, read my higher words ....... and your own, that you reminded me ... And read it again ... ..And two more times ....... If you don't understand, ask ... laughing good
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov April 17 2021 20: 53
              +1
              The Ukrainian authorities have long dreamed of dragging the United States into Ukraine and dragging the Americans into a war with Russia. Vlad Shurygin spoke about the US intention to create THREE bases in Ukraine in six months. Is it true? In light of the fierce US attack on Russia, it looks like it.
        2. 210ox
          210ox April 16 2021 17: 58
          +3
          Ayyayay .. Enough only for yeast. And without sugar ...
          1. Andrey Korotkov
            Andrey Korotkov April 16 2021 18: 16
            -1
            Quote: 210ox
            Ayyayay .. Enough only for yeast. And without sugar ...

            You also fell for trolltin? How many times did you tell yourself look at your nickname. , could not resist, there are a lot of our youth on the site, at least somehow they will understand hi
            1. 210ox
              210ox April 16 2021 21: 07
              +1
              Well, you can't call me young. I myself will soon draw up a pension. True, besides her, darling, I have two more jobs.
              1. Andrey Korotkov
                Andrey Korotkov April 16 2021 21: 18
                +1
                Quote: 210ox
                Well, you can't call me young. I myself will soon draw up a pension. True, besides her, darling, I have two more jobs.

                hi Kind, I'm talking about young people in the VO who enters (she thinks so) into a serious controversy with such bots, your age is about guess yes I’m a little longer until retirement yes
          2. GTYCBJYTH2021
            GTYCBJYTH2021 April 16 2021 18: 20
            -2
            Quote: 210ox
            Ayyayay .. Enough only for yeast. And without sugar ...

            Yes, it happened ... The pension will be by the end of April ... ... I will not stretch ....... But God forbid you to become a pensioner ... You yourself, I suppose, you know, movement cars, buses, once and under the wheels ... It's good if you walk to death, but a turnip-pumpkin ....... And there is no pension and no disability ... laughing No offense, man ... hi
    2. credo
      credo April 16 2021 17: 12
      0
      Quote: Oden280
      Of course, bring more mattress toppers in the hope of hiding behind them, in which case.

      Whatever people like Shmyhal and other brothers think of themselves, the Yankees are not fools and will not defend the Ukrainian regime with their breasts. They did not make this mess in order to lay their bones for the mythical independence of Ukraine, so the landfill in the west of Ukraine is a thousand times dearer to them than the Donbass trenches.
      1. VO3A
        VO3A April 16 2021 17: 16
        -1
        Very interesting ! P_ndosky instructors were shocked by the army of Judeo-Bandera. For the first time they saw such stupid soldiers and narrow-minded officers in white guise! How do they teach these half-morons? ... Just easy money for useless work and nothing else ?!
        https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/features-russian-45756590
    3. knn54
      knn54 April 16 2021 17: 38
      +5
      How much did American instructors help Georgia?
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty April 16 2021 18: 29
      0
      Mexico needs our military facilities, and instructors who are preparing Mexican detachments for sabotage on the territory of the country that illegally took part of their lands from Mexico. ..
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  3. Avior
    Avior April 16 2021 17: 04
    +7
    Sadly, but if nothing changes dramatically, the American or NATO military in Ukraine is a matter of time.
    There is a clear tendency towards this situation.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 16 2021 17: 14
      +1
      Since 2014. It's amazing how they are not there yet? Uncle Sam has aged, not the same. They are leaving Afgan. Most likely Ukraine is in the role of a bargaining chip.

      ... The first thing bloggers say is that the Americans are trying with all their might to prevent the completion of the construction of Nord Stream 2. If it is completed, it means the beginning of a long-term alliance between Russia and Germany. “The Anglo-Saxon lobby has been doing everything for many centuries to destroy such an alliance. Otherwise, both countries will mutually increase the power of each other in all areas, including the military. In addition, another center of power will emerge along with the United States and China, ”the authors write.

      And they add that after Biden "presented" his representative for SP2 to everyone, he simply "opened the cards" showing the real tasks of this representative. And none of the problems of Ukraine itself were included in these “maps”. The American president agreed to this because there were a couple of kilometers more, and the construction of the gas pipeline would be completed. Thus, the role of Ukraine itself was shown, which consists in provoking Moscow and aggravating the situation in Donbass. After that, Washington will impose a package of sanctions that stop any activity of Nord Stream 2.

      Twill Laying 2
      Second. The whole story related to Billingcat and the like is just an element of White House pressure on Ukrainian President Zelensky. The goal of such a campaign is to force Ze to open hostilities and involve Russia. Again, that there was a reason for the sanctions measures introduced, including by Germany. The Germans will never simply take inappropriate actions. There must be a suitable reason for this.

      Third. Moscow itself is in a hurry to complete the construction of the gas pipeline. Ms. Merkel does not have much time left to "rule" the country, and the one who next takes the place of the chancellor may not be as accommodating as the current one.


      ... Fourth. Russia is well aware that Zelensky is likely to yield to his Western "partners" and aggravate. But in this case, the leadership of the Russian Federation will “play” on raising rates. Moscow is hinting that if everything starts and sanctions are received in any case, and JV2 is zeroed, then the western project "Ukraine" will be closed by Russia. And in addition to this, three more additional problems will be resolved: the dead end in Donbass, water for Crimea and the territory of Transnistria.


      .And finally, the worst thing. We suggest thinking about what is worse for Washington: an alliance between the Russian Federation and the FRG or the loss of Ukraine? I think the answer is obvious. There is an option that Ze will not fulfill the "master's order". But in this case, there will be another Billingcat series, ”concluded the authors of the ZeRada channel.

      https://zen.yandex.ru/media/bigwar/gran-dlia-ukrainy-60718ae66594337d81ba2e93
      1. Avior
        Avior April 16 2021 17: 32
        +1
        Seriously, of course, Yandexdzen is not taken seriously :).
        but on the whole Ukraine is interested in the presence of NATO members as a guarantee, this is obvious.
        Another issue is that this topic is being promoted gradually in order to reduce the Kremlin's reaction to the appearance of such troops.
        And the reaction will be a reversal of the entire strategic balance. Therefore, it will be introduced very gradually, first the special forces will base, then ground and aviation, and then missile ones will appear at a distance of 500-600 km from Moscow - the Americans have just withdrawn from the treaty on medium-range missiles, and are actively developing hypersonic weapons of this range.
        That is, if the current trend continues, but for now everything is heading towards this.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg April 16 2021 20: 10
          0
          ... Therefore, it will be introduced very gradually, first the special forces will base, then ground and aviation, and then missile ones will appear at a distance of 500-600 km from Moscow - the Americans have just withdrawn from the treaty on medium-range missiles, and are actively developing hypersonic weapons of this range.

          We are also developing hypersonic weapons and, apparently, in this situation, we will again have to carry missiles to Cuba. In this case, a new Cuban missile crisis cannot be avoided. As in 1961, because of the deployment of American missiles in Turkey, the world was on the brink, and now, thanks to the efforts of the Americans, the world will again come to the brink, but in the role of Turkey, Ukraine is based on your assumption. Nobody pity her. The world is not a fact that it will steer again. And all due to the fact that someone has hegemony in one place itching. Here are the words of a classic: we go to Paradise, and they just die. While everything goes to this.
          1. Avior
            Avior April 16 2021 20: 18
            +3
            ... Apparently in this situation it will be necessary to carry missiles to Cuba again.

            And what about Cuba?
            Did you agree?
            1. Orange bigg
              Orange bigg April 16 2021 20: 23
              -3
              Quote: Avior
              ... Apparently in this situation it will be necessary to carry missiles to Cuba again.

              And what about Cuba?
              Did you agree?


              Well, there are other options. We live in the 21st century. ICBMs with Vanguard gliding blocks for the same Yellowstone. The fastest option. Submarine with SLBMs and MPS with CD. Poseidon, who can wash away the coastal cities of the United States. There are many options. Putin said that they would be responsible at the headquarters. Americans are frankly stupid for asking for trouble. What are they hoping for?
              1. Avior
                Avior April 16 2021 20: 30
                +1
                The factor of surprise and speed of the strike is important.
                The closer to the decision-making center, the higher the likelihood that the retaliatory strike will not be in time due to the time factor - short flight time
                Because of the ethogram, medium-range missiles were banned at their time
                But this is the past already.
                1. Orange bigg
                  Orange bigg April 16 2021 20: 40
                  -2
                  Washington and New York coastal cities. If the submarines hit the KR from the same 500-600 km from these cities, then this is an equivalent replacement for the ground-based KR. And if you also use the 9-swing Zircon or SLBM Bulava for this on a flat trajectory from submarines, then the Americans will be quite fun. Moreover, there will be a retaliatory strike in any case. Everything is foreseen in advance. We have the doctrine of a retaliatory strike. Corresponding systems. All that the Americans, led by Biden, can achieve is to turn the whole world into a cemetery.
                  Medium-range missiles were banned because of the ethogram.
                  But this is the past already.

                  Yes, this is the reality of the late 80s. Now there are other opportunities and, most importantly, there is determination.
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine April 16 2021 21: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Avior
                  The factor of surprise and speed of the strike is important.

                  Russia does not need it, but let Ukraine think for itself. (But the answer will be cruel).
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 16 2021 22: 00
              0
              Quote: Avior
              And what about Cuba?
              Did you agree?

              Well, if Ukraine is substituted by the states, then Cuba will be for Russia.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 16 2021 22: 02
          0
          Quote: Avior
          but on the whole Ukraine is interested in the presence of NATO members as a guarantee, this is obvious.

          I do not argue, is substituted as a girl with little social responsibility. The quality is guaranteed.
      2. businessv
        businessv April 16 2021 17: 40
        +2
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        and SP2 is reset to zero, then the western project "Ukraine" will be closed by Russia.
        If the project is closed, then there will be no urgent need for SP-2.
        which is worse for Washington: an alliance between the Russian Federation and the FRG or the loss of Ukraine?
        It seems to me that the regional committee will jump and get both! These common striped "partners" in Europe have nothing to do at all, let them take care of their country and the mainland.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 16 2021 22: 05
        +1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Uncle Sam has grown old, not the same. They are leaving Afgan.

        And he does not come to Ukraine. The old also became weak.
    2. cniza
      cniza April 16 2021 17: 23
      +4
      Quote: Avior
      Sadly, but if nothing changes dramatically, the American or NATO military in Ukraine is a matter of time.
      There is a clear tendency towards this situation.


      It seems that ours began to stir, otherwise then nothing can be expelled from here ...
      1. xorek
        xorek April 16 2021 17: 28
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        Quote: Avior
        Sadly, but if nothing changes dramatically, the American or NATO military in Ukraine is a matter of time.
        There is a clear tendency towards this situation.


        It seems that ours began to stir, otherwise then nothing can be expelled from here ...

        Viktor also noticed that if the Amers put their bases there ... everything is lost ...
        There are rumors that the United States wants to exchange Ukraine for Russia's refusal to complete the Nord Stream project. Hopefully Russia will not lead to this, they will be deceived ..
        The United States is terribly afraid of something from Russia, but is silent.
        1. businessv
          businessv April 16 2021 17: 37
          +1
          Quote: xorek
          The United States is terribly afraid of something from Russia, but is silent.

          The only country capable of adequately and inevitably responding to the hegemon's nuclear strike is Russia. That is what they are afraid of.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 16 2021 21: 55
          -1
          Quote: xorek
          Rumor has it that the US wants to exchange Ukraine for Russia's refusal to complete the Nord Stream

          To complete the "stream" - to "let the Ukraine go".
    3. VO3A
      VO3A April 16 2021 17: 24
      +4
      There is no trend ... As soon as ordinary Russians live better than ordinary Europeans, the opposite trend will begin ...
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 16 2021 22: 09
      0
      Quote: Avior
      Sadly, but if nothing changes dramatically, the American or NATO military in Ukraine is a matter of time.

      And who would have doubted. Well, not the Somali troops will come to Ukraine. (Sad but true).
  4. Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 16 2021 17: 07
    +2
    The problem with striped ones is that they don't take enough "zinc" home. That's why
    will gladly expand their mission.

    These are the shortcomings, comrades.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg April 16 2021 17: 17
      +3
      Because they usually prefer to fight with someone else's hands. The lessons of Vietnam are remembered.
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      2. Konstantin Gogolev
        Konstantin Gogolev April 16 2021 17: 25
        -2
        Yes, plus when they fucked up with their Black Hawks. At the legislative level, they decided to fight without contact. I am sure that sooner or later they will be "shipped" somewhere. I wish them a high-explosive war from any natives.
  5. NF68
    NF68 April 16 2021 17: 19
    +3
    Abroad will not help you anyway, just as it did not help the Poles in 1939.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 16 2021 21: 51
      +1
      Quote: NF68
      as it did not help the Poles in 1939.

      And all over Europe as well. Chupa-Chups worked and works.
  6. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 16 2021 17: 20
    +2
    And besides the boxcar, there was no other background? Or is this the special car of the president of Ukraine?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 16 2021 21: 50
      0
      Quote: Fitter65
      And besides the boxcar, there was no other background? Or is this the special car of the president of Ukraine?

      To whom the compartment car, and VAZelin and the calf barn for happiness.
  7. cniza
    cniza April 16 2021 17: 21
    +5
    Kiev requested an expansion of the American military presence in Ukraine


    No longer hesitating, they ask to have them in all angles ...
    1. xorek
      xorek April 16 2021 17: 32
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      Kiev requested an expansion of the American military presence in Ukraine


      No longer hesitating, they ask to have them in all angles ...

      And they have no way out Viktor .. Everything, the project "Ukraine Tse Evropa" has completely failed, everything is destroyed and looted, one is a Russian pipe, at least something brings profit to the budget .. Amer handouts, this is strictly for the war .. After all, Bandera will have to answer for all
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 16 2021 21: 47
        0
        Quote: xorek
        And they have no choice Victor .. That's it, the project "Ukraine CEEuropa" has completely failed

        The project did not fail, but works, because as the Europeans wanted, Ukrainian farm laborers work in Europe.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 16 2021 21: 49
      0
      Quote: cniza
      No longer hesitating, they ask to have them in all angles ...

      And what embarrassment happens, among women with "low social responsibility."
  8. businessv
    businessv April 16 2021 17: 34
    0
    Most likely, they do not want to finally get involved in a conflict with Russia.
    I wonder how our government will react if suddenly the mattresses decide to build a base in the square? Will Syria be concerned about it, or will they take real opposition? If so, how exactly?
  9. Russ
    Russ April 16 2021 17: 40
    +2
    Yes, replace the already remaining population of the land ...
  10. Andrea
    Andrea April 16 2021 17: 47
    +2
    I remember that someone boasted of the strongest army in Europe. Europe is taught by states where there is logic,
    But most likely, they decided to hide behind, as the babai covered themselves with the civilian population,
  11. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav April 16 2021 19: 22
    +1
    and what is there in the photo for snow white, svidomo do not learn the language of the owners of their life
  12. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 16 2021 20: 25
    -1
    Ukraine has asked the United States to increase the military presence of American troops in the country,

    Tired of Ukrainian jokes "The US is fighting for Ukraine." Is there anything in the states of debyly ???
    1. Dimka75
      Dimka75 April 16 2021 20: 37
      +2
      How is it with you in Estonia? Will you tell? Who will fight for you? Or will you even nudge yourself?
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      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 16 2021 21: 44
        -1
        Quote: Dimka75
        How is it with you in Estonia? Will you tell? Who will fight for you? Or will you even nudge yourself?
        I am not a citizen of Estonia, I have been living there since the times of the USSR. And YOU, a child, have not known life since 1991. If I knew, I would be silent.
        1. Dimka75
          Dimka75 April 16 2021 21: 55
          +1
          I will not be silent.
          I put it on your Estonia with NATO.
          You can't live in NATO Estonia and not be a gay-European pad.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine April 16 2021 22: 14
            -1
            Quote: Dimka75
            I will not be silent.
            I put it on your Estonia with NATO.

            And do not be silent, you were a child, and you remain a child.
  13. iouris
    iouris April 17 2021 08: 50
    +1
    We are standing - the enemy is disturbing. We retreat - the enemy is advancing.
  14. Egor53
    Egor53 April 18 2021 15: 02
    0
    200 Canadian instructors from Ukraine fled. They do not want to fall under the Russian Iskander. And pi.n.dosy from Ukraine will be dumped. It seems that the war will soon begin.
  15. seacap
    seacap April 18 2021 16: 56
    0
    This is quite expected, there is no need to be an analyst, after training in Sevastopol, after training centers and biolaboratories. The question is different, our boyars, apart from the policy of "Leopold's cat" and smearing snot on their cheeks, what can be done real to protect the interests of the Russian Federation and their "feeding trough". Judging by the fact that they so stubbornly do not "notice" the active activity of the "partners" all these years, judging by their complete helplessness and inactivity in their essentially territories and this mockery of their essentially peoples, who for some reason, contrary to common sense and normal logic, due to a misunderstanding, they were called sovereign states (who you have to be to call a severed finger an independent organism), behind the fortress walls of the supposedly capital, we have people not much like the national leadership. Judging by their decisions, actions, or rather inaction, like all news, how they unquestioningly and instantly fulfill all the instructions of the overseas curators, this is the whole pack without honor and conscience, mired in philistinism, which is stupid with permissiveness and impunity, sheer irresponsibility, unlimited dough rages on the territories of the once great power, all this gives reason, in my philistine opinion, to assume that this is an occupation (colonial) administration, temporary workers, which in no way connects its future with this state and this people, whom they deeply despise and hate. As a result, the Balts will seem like a kindergarten, and even taking into account the fact that in the south in Kazakhstan exactly the same thing happens in one, only with less noise, in the eastern petty, and it will be more dangerous and more tragic, there is only one hope for China, which is ready to defend its interests and has the political will and all the possibilities for this.
  16. Graduate student
    Graduate student April 20 2021 22: 26
    +12
    Kiev requested an expansion of the American military presence in Ukraine

    We've already started fool They themselves ask to be occupied belay wassat negative
  17. Graduate student
    Graduate student April 20 2021 22: 27
    +9
    first of all, this concerns instructors participating in the training program for military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    The APU will not help anything. Even American instructors yes