In the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: the United States canceled the dispatch of destroyers to the Black Sea so as not to irritate Russia

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The question of why the United States has withdrawn its notification of the passage of the Bosporus for the entry of two warships into the Black Sea is being discussed. These ships are the US Navy destroyers Donald Cook and Roosevelt. A notification was sent from Washington to Turkey, on the basis of which these ships were to enter the Black Sea on April 14 and stay in its waters until May 4-5. Initially, the United States announced that it would send its warships "to support Ukraine in connection with the pulling of Russian troops to its borders." The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine decided to comment on the situation.

Chief Inspector of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Admiral Igor Voronchenko (from 2016 to 2020 - Commander of the Naval Forces of Ukraine) expressed his version of the reasons for the refusal of the entry of two US Navy destroyers into the Black Sea.



Admiral Voronchenko said that the US refusal to introduce its destroyers into the Black Sea does not consider it "zrada".

Chief Inspector of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:

I do not know what plans were hatched in the 6th navy USA. But it is clear that the adjustments have been made.

According to the Ukrainian admiral, the top military-political leadership in Washington has decided not to irritate Russia "or to make a delay, a delay."

Admiral Voronchenko:

I think their leadership is mature, and therefore they have other options besides these destroyers. They also deployed these in the Crete region. We decided not to annoy.

Meanwhile, among the Ukrainian elites, the question is being discussed, does this mean that the United States only rhetorically supports Ukraine, and if a real clash occurs, the States will not fight together with the Ukrainian military "against the aggressor"? Opinions were divided on this matter. While some seriously hope that the United States will send troops to wage war against Russia, others are confident that this will not happen under any circumstances for Ukraine.
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  1. Pereira Rank
    Pereira
    +16
    April 16 2021 08: 54
    It is not the business of slaves to discuss the plans of the gentry.
    1. neri73-r Rank
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      +11
      April 16 2021 08: 59
      Yeah, they will come to die for Svidomo, they will also send a yadrenu Bonbu! wassat
      1. Dmitry Donskoy Rank
        Dmitry Donskoy
        +4
        April 16 2021 09: 17
        The states play their game without thinking about anyone, and Ukrainians always try it on themselves. hi
      2. Cananecat Rank
        Cananecat
        +1
        April 16 2021 10: 14
        Quote: neri73-r
        they will also send a yadrenu bonbu!

        With delivery to the Rada from the Yandex market)))
        1. Vladimir Mashkov Rank
          Vladimir Mashkov
          0
          April 17 2021 17: 05
          And that's always the way! As soon as everyone tuned in and prepared: the Americans - stocked up with diapers and sedatives, Russian pilots, sailors and coastal crews - prepared for training tasks - like the American bosses - bam! - canceled the entry of American targets into the Black Sea! request

          As for the distant ones, they still hope to participate in the blitzkrieg of American "friends" ... lol
    2. tihonmarine Rank
      tihonmarine
      +4
      April 16 2021 09: 42
      Quote: Pereira
      It is not the business of slaves to discuss the plans of the gentry.

      The lot of a slave, to carry out the orders of the Pan, and he is forbidden to think.
  2. knn54 Rank
    knn54
    +4
    April 16 2021 08: 55
    -Chief Inspector of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:
    And "happiness" was so close.
    1. Alex777 Rank
      Alex777
      +2
      April 16 2021 09: 04
      Those who are unlucky carry them themselves. laughing
      It is already obvious to everyone that no one will fight for Bandera.
      Only the Bandera themselves continue to dejectedly procrastinate on this topic.
      1. alex neym_2 Rank
        alex neym_2
        0
        April 16 2021 17: 08
        "No one will fight for them ..." especially under the cover of Crete - ALL offshore money is HIDDEN THERE ... USE, every single one, to protect Crete - we will not let the treasury go to waste ...
        1. Alex777 Rank
          Alex777
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          April 16 2021 17: 11
          In the course of Crete and Cyprus beguiled? laughing
          There are no offshore companies in Crete. Greece.
    2. Insurgent Rank
      Insurgent
      +3
      April 16 2021 09: 20
      Quote: knn54
      And "happiness" was so close.

      Take it higher - Peremoha "covered" ...
      1. tihonmarine Rank
        tihonmarine
        +2
        April 16 2021 09: 44
        Quote: Insurgent
        Take it higher - Peremoga is "covered" ...

        And flew like a "basin over the bath."
      2. mmaxx Rank
        mmaxx
        +1
        April 16 2021 10: 14
        The Law of Transformation of Peremokhi into Zrada.
  3. prior Rank
    prior
    +1
    April 16 2021 08: 59
    That is not. It dawned on the Americans that Russia really needs prisoners ... wassat
    The Germans, I remember, did a good job. laughing
    1. Alex777 Rank
      Alex777
      0
      April 16 2021 17: 13
      There are really not enough emigrants at construction sites! bully
  4. Viktor Sergeev Rank
    Viktor Sergeev
    +2
    April 16 2021 09: 00
    Serfs really believe that the master only thinks how to help him.
    1. tihonmarine Rank
      tihonmarine
      +2
      April 16 2021 09: 51
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      Serfs really believe that the master only thinks how to help him.

      It is not harmful to "grow rich with a thought". They don’t take money for a “dumka”.
  5. Mouse Rank
    Mouse
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    April 16 2021 09: 02
    Initially, the United States announced that it would send its warships "to support Ukraine in connection with the pulling of Russian troops to its borders."

    changed their minds to support the kraine pants ... wink these are the "reliable" partners ... wassat
  6. Konstantin Gogolev Rank
    Konstantin Gogolev
    0
    April 16 2021 09: 04
    They do not know how to use compromising evidence. There on Biden and the son is enough for his political death and not weak such chaos of the Democratic Party.
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich Rank
      Sidor Amenpodestovich
      +3
      April 16 2021 09: 16
      Quote: Konstantin Gogolev
      They do not know how to use compromising evidence. There on Biden and the son is enough for his political death and not weak such chaos of the Democratic Party.

      This is compromising evidence, what kind of compromising evidence is needed. That would be republican, and even with regard to the Trumpists, it would not seem a little to anyone.
      1. Konstantin Gogolev Rank
        Konstantin Gogolev
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        April 16 2021 09: 23
        Well, I think Trump would have thrown a good bone. Although there was infa that the Chinese "donated" to Biden and nothing.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich Rank
          Sidor Amenpodestovich
          +1
          April 16 2021 10: 14
          Quote: Konstantin Gogolev
          Well, I think Trump would have thrown a good bone.

          Will hope for a Trump bone by the 24th year. Trump drowns for trade, not for globalist militarists. His main complaint against China is that it is China that skims the cream of the US-Chinese trade. And who there, for example, owns Taiwan, and who manages the factories there, he is purple.
  7. Avior Rank
    Avior
    0
    April 16 2021 09: 11
    For the passage of ships of the main classes through the straits, it is required to notify Turkey in advance - for the Black Sea states 8 days in advance, for non-Black Sea states - 15 days before.
    Therefore, they are often notified just in case, but in reality they do not pass, and the Black Sea Fleet does this every day in order to be able to pass ships on any day.
    the command of the Black Sea Fleet sends daily notices to the Turkish side about a possible passage, including a certain number of warships.

    Fortunately, the Turks are not allowed to take money for notification that they must be angry :)))
    But in general, in the situation, they were notified, but the straits themselves did not pass, there is nothing special, a common thing
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos
      -1
      April 16 2021 10: 40
      Quote: Avior
      Turks do not have the right to take money for notification that they are probably angry:

      the practice of paying for applications is not familiar to them?
      Shl, for the facts you always have disadvantages. Apparently someone doesn't like living in the real world.
      1. Avior Rank
        Avior
        -1
        April 16 2021 10: 53
        Yes, I also noticed that reality annoys someone.
        As for the Turks and the payment of applications, the convention does not provide for a fee.
        This is directly indicated in Article 2 and Appendix 1, there is a table with types of payments.
        No dues or charges other than those provided for in Annex 1 to this Convention will not be levied by the Turkish authorities from these ships when they are in transit without stopping at one of the ports of the Straits.
  8. aszzz888 Rank
    aszzz888
    +2
    April 16 2021 09: 12
    said the chief inspector of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Admiral Igor Voronchenko (from 2016 to 2020 - the commander of the naval forces of Ukraine).
    Who is their tanker? This yes, this seket in naval affairs! laughing
    1. Insurgent Rank
      Insurgent
      +1
      April 16 2021 09: 25
      Quote: aszzz888
      Who is their tanker? This yes, this seket in naval affairs!

      What is it belay belay belay ? What " Armored troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine " , what " Armored boat of the Naval Forces of Ukraine ", it's the same thing.

      Or no what ? lol
      1. aszzz888 Rank
        aszzz888
        +1
        April 16 2021 09: 29

        Insurgent
        Today, 09: 25
        And sho is belay belay belay? That "Armored troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine", that "Armored boats of the Armed Forces of Ukraine", this is the same thing.

        Or not what? lol
        hi ! Happy Seven Years Holiday !!! drinks

        So to them ukronaztankists - sho cast iron, sho rubber! wink
        1. Insurgent Rank
          Insurgent
          0
          April 16 2021 11: 27
          Quote: aszzz888
          Happy Seven Years Holiday !!!

          What holiday? request What's the date - 16.04.2014 ?

          Yes, Strelkov was already in Slavyansk, VSUshniki (some), not wanting to fight, handed over equipment and weapons (not without pressure, of course). But everything seems to be ordinary ...

          1. aszzz888 Rank
            aszzz888
            0
            April 18 2021 06: 14

            Insurgent
            April 16 2021 11: 27

            Seven years of solitude: Donbass celebrates the anniversary of Slavyansk
            April 16 2021
            drinks
    2. tihonmarine Rank
      tihonmarine
      +1
      April 16 2021 09: 58
      Quote: aszzz888
      Who is their tanker? This yes, this seket in naval affairs!

      Precisely, the Ukrainian tankers, the famous naval commanders Nelsons, are even recorded in the "Guinness Book".
  9. dimy44 Rank
    dimy44
    +1
    April 16 2021 09: 20
    "If some seriously hope that the United States will send troops to wage war against Russia ..."
    Well, yes, we ruined the country for you, we got into a fight with Russia, you won't throw us now, will you? Ha ha. This is exactly the case).
  10. rocket757 Rank
    rocket757
    +1
    April 16 2021 09: 23
    Chief Inspector of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: the United States canceled the dispatch of destroyers to the Black Sea so as not to irritate Russia
    Hey, do / R \ ilka, but we don't give a damn about those destroyers ... but no, the "training" failed, SORRY!
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    2. tihonmarine Rank
      tihonmarine
      +1
      April 16 2021 10: 02
      Quote: rocket757
      although no, the "training" failed, ANNOUNCED!
      The fat is sour, the vodka is rotten - "zrada".
      1. rocket757 Rank
        rocket757
        +1
        April 16 2021 10: 17
        yak the skakuasses will now jump-jump ... their plant is running out, and there will be no one to wind it up on a new one, the ringleaders did not come ...
        1. tihonmarine Rank
          tihonmarine
          +1
          April 16 2021 10: 25
          Quote: rocket757
          their plant is ending, and there will be no one to wind it up on a new one, the ringleaders did not come.

          And there is no one to replace the mainspring.
  11. Nyrobsky Rank
    Nyrobsky
    +2
    April 16 2021 09: 27
    Meanwhile, among the Ukrainian elites, the question is being discussed whether this means that the United States only rhetorically supports Russia, and if a real clash occurs, then the States will not fight together with the Ukrainian military "against the aggressor"? Opinions on this matter are divided. If a some seriously hope the fact that the United States will send troops to wage war against Russia then others are sure that this will not happen under no circumstances for Ukraine
    Let the hopeful Ukrop "elite" listen better to the doubting "elite" and remember how much the mattresses helped the Georgians in 2008.
  12. kebeskin Rank
    kebeskin
    +2
    April 16 2021 09: 29
    Yes, the Americans will not send anything in the event of a conflict. The same Ossetian scenario will happen when one tie lover hoped that the Americans would help him now. But I had to flow around with a known substance.
  13. Vasilenko Vladimir Rank
    Vasilenko Vladimir
    +1
    April 16 2021 09: 41
    and write - press-press
  14. Andrei Nikolaevich Rank
    Andrei Nikolaevich
    +2
    April 16 2021 09: 48
    Chubates will lose sleep from such news.
  15. rotmistr60 Rank
    rotmistr60
    +1
    April 16 2021 10: 14
    The funny thing is that in Ukraine, in all seriousness, they are still pondering whether the Americans will fight for them against Russia or not. Wake up when it was the owner who shed his blood for those who lick his heels? Your destiny to give up your last pants and die defending American interests.
    1. Paranoid50 Rank
      Paranoid50
      +1
      April 16 2021 10: 35
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The funny thing is

      Perhaps in this:
      Ukrainian admiral
      fellow laughing
  16. Russobel Rank
    Russobel
    +1
    April 16 2021 10: 17
    We decided not to annoy.

    They were assaulted, because they know that having cruise missiles on board capable of carrying a nuclear charge, they only have to inadvertently release the gases ... And they will be blowing up at the bottom.
  17. Kamchatsky Rank
    Kamchatsky
    0
    April 16 2021 10: 43
    Meanwhile, the striped ones are already in a brazen climb to the Crimea. The Flight Radar is tracking Orion.
    1. kit88 Rank
      kit88
      +8
      April 16 2021 11: 44
      This is a converted EP-3E Aries II
      Electronic warfare aircraft.

      It flies 30 km from Yalta.
  18. iouris Rank
    iouris
    -1
    April 16 2021 11: 21
    In principle, this means that active events begin.
  19. Alexander Kopychev Rank
    Alexander Kopychev
    0
    April 16 2021 11: 51
    The United States only rhetorically supports Russia, and if a real clash occurs, then the States will not fight together with the Ukrainian military "against the aggressor"?

    There will be, but only so "so as not to annoy." laughing
  20. Templar Rank
    Templar
    0
    April 16 2021 13: 10
    Lord, how pathetic the "admiral Voronchenko" sounds! Tanker, still confused in terms of "correction" and "erection"
  21. Dmitry Potapov Rank
    Dmitry Potapov
    0
    April 16 2021 14: 15
    I still remember how the states fought for Georgia! Saakashvili even chewed his tie from idleness and pleasure!
  22. NF68 Rank
    NF68
    0
    April 16 2021 15: 58
    Even the Americans decided not to tease Russia again. And it has not yet reached the horses.