Russian equipment for the Airborne Forces begins to advance to the world arms market

Russia begins to promote amphibious equipment to the world market - the BMD-4M airborne combat vehicle and the BTR-MDM armored personnel carrier. This was reported by the press service of the NPO High-Precision Complexes.

As the message says, which leads TASS, Rosoboronexport has already issued an advertising passport for Russian equipment for the landing. High-precision complexes together with Rosoboronexport are promoting BMD-4M and BTR-MDM on the foreign market.

It is noted that Russian BMD and armored personnel carriers have aroused great interest among foreign countries that have airborne units in their armies. At the same time, it is possible that BMD-4M and BTR-MDM will be purchased for special army units or the police. A technique with excellent characteristics is suitable for many tasks.

BTR-MDM Rakushka is a Russian airborne armored personnel carrier. The vehicle weighs 13,2 tons and is armed with two machine guns. The crew consists of two people, the landing - 13 people. BMD-4M is an upgraded version of the BMD-4. The main armament is a 100-mm cannon, four Arkan guided missiles, a 30-mm automatic cannon and a 7,62-mm machine gun.

The serial production of BMD-4М ("Object 960М") is carried out by JSC "Volgograd Tractor Plant", BTR-MDM ("Object 955") is made by JSC "Kurgan Machine-Building Plant" (KMZ).

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[vvvjak]

quote] It is noted that Russian BMD and armored personnel carriers have aroused great interest among foreign countries that have airborne units in their armies. [/ quote]
Having airmobile troops, as I understand it.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: vvvjak

Having airmobile troops, as I understand it.

I understood that we are sculpting whatever for export. paratroopers will still hover on oak trees.
or? Where is the new technology in the troops?
As they crawled in the regiments of BMD-1, -2, so they crawl, where the "shells" together with the Volgograd tractor were transferred .., then where is Kurganets with new weapons systems-Y?















































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[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Stroporez

I understood that we are sculpting whatever for export. paratroopers will still hover on oak trees.
or? Where is the new technology in the troops?
As they crawled in the regiments of BMD-1, -2, so they crawl, where the "shells" together with the Volgograd tractor were transferred .., then where is Kurganets with new weapons systems-Y? 7

Was it swollen or something? Or did you cut the lines in flight again?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

abukhal or what? Or did you cut the lines in flight again?

If only you ate with me in the "ramp" whisper, then yes! Or you climbed the hill with me and you were wearing at least 50 kilos in equipment, and after that you, damn it, personally ask
"for the slings"!

[Victorio]

Quote: Stroporez

you are wearing at least 50 kilos in equipment

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yes, and what is there "at least 50 kilos" in the equipment, and most importantly, how much can you pass with such a weight? 70-kilogram bags were dragged by the construction team (on the back), from the car to the stacks in the warehouse, 50 meters per trip.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Victorio

yes, and what is there "at least 50 kilos" in the equipment, and most importantly, how much can you pass with such a weight?

My friend, the combat exit could be from a week to 14 days, and then, as luck would have it.
The task was set, the orders were given and they must be carried out. The armor did not go to the mountains and everything had to be dragged on its own ridges, from the rifleman, cartridges, border guards and shots to them and ending with company mortars, large-caliber. machine guns, well, and a zhrachka, respectively! And with all this "household belongings" I had to move through the mountains from 5 to 15 km per day.

[Victorio]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: Victorio

yes, and what is there "at least 50 kilos" in the equipment, and most importantly, how much can you pass with such a weight?

My friend, the combat exit could be from a week to 14 days, and then, as luck would have it.
The task is set, the orders were given and they must be carried out. The armor did not go to the mountains and everything had to be dragged on its own ridges, from the rifleman, cartridges, border guards and shots to them and ending with company mortars, large-caliber. machine guns, well, and a zhrachka, respectively! And with all this "household belongings" I had to move through the mountains from 5 to 15 km per day.

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this is not exactly the same equipment, this is not for the rank and file of the airborne forces. this is already another level of the task, for another level of the unit. but to load / yes to drag to the mountains (not from a good life and organization), or from the car, for example, can be more, and even in pairs.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Victorio

or from the carriage, for example, you can do more, and even in pairs.

How it is heated, its burden does not pull

[TerraSandera]

So far, the topic has been sucked from the finger. They prepare documents, they will sell. But it is not known whether there will be customers and serious orders. Will our sworn "partners" twist their arms and "sanction" them?
But I hope there will still be those who will actually buy, and not "" let me see, or maybe give a couple of things to try, etc. "Well, or you sell us 10 pieces, we will build the remaining 300 at our place.

[xorek]

Real money from the sale of weapons, this is certainly great, but you shouldn't forget about your paratroopers either .. Otherwise in Russia they sometimes get carried away with selling .. And they keep their Army on a hungry "ration" for rearmament ..
In general, Russian weapons do not need advertising, they have been tested in combat.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Who in the world needs this for money?

When there are already tens of thousands of these:

I am generally silent about armor protection and mine protection. Below the bottom level.
The only thing that is good is the Bakhcha module. It is she who goes well for export, there are many cars armed with it.

[Anzhey V.]

I think you can ignore this.

In our press, "Sprut-SD" is praised with enviable regularity after each appearance of a light tank in a particular country. They constantly talk about its great "export potential" - more than two decades since this song has been sung.

And as he was not needed by anyone, even with us, he remained.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Okay, for export, this illiquid product, which was outdated by the 90s, is being supplied to our army. The principle of "still giving birth" remains unchanged.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Who in the world needs this for money?

Is it better for the landing?

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

When there are already tens of thousands of these:

Are there examples of using this box as an amphibious assault vehicle?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Bad_gr

Is it better for the landing?

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

When there are already tens of thousands of these:

Are there examples of using this box as an amphibious assault vehicle?

This "box" was created in the years of the Cold War, the weight and dimensions made it possible to transfer it, incl. and helicopters (since all transport aircraft would most likely have been destroyed by the SA in the first minutes of the war), in addition, an ATGM was created on the basis of this machine, and all these Wiesel were in service during the XV years only with the Airborne Forces ( AED) and GPBr.

The vehicle was supposed to carry a 20-mm automatic cannon, an ATGM "Hot" (under development) and a 120-mm mortar with ammunition, while being transported by C-130 "Hercules" and C-160 "Transall" aircraft, CH helicopters -53G, to land on a parachute platform, so the vehicle's own weight was limited to 2,75 tons, length - 3,3 m, hull height - 1,3 m.

https://topwar.ru/1121-boevaya-desantnaya-mashina-vizel-i-vizel-2-wiesel.html
Used in Somalia and Kosovo ... as a reconnaissance vehicle ..

The first "overseas mission" of the Wiesel machines was the participation of the German contingent in the UNOSOM-2 operation in Somaliawhere the "blue helmets" of the FRG arrived in the summer of 1993. Although there were no airmobile operations here, of all the armored vehicles of the Bundeswehr, according to German experts, "Wiesel" A1 by its compactness and mobility was the most suitable for solving the tasks of patrolling and reconnaissance... After the NATO aggression against Yugoslavia in 1999, the German contingent entered Kosovo as part of KFOR, here PM "Wiesel" A1 (as in Somalia - in both versions) also used for road patrols.

see there
In your photo "Wiesel-1", it is no longer in the army, the new "Wiesel-2" has a 4th road roller, so it is easy to visually distinguish them ...

"Wiesel-2" can be thrown by the same planes and helicopters, but the number of vehicles transferred is on average one less: accordingly, in the cargo compartment of the C-160 "Transall" - you can transfer 3 cars, C-130 "Hercules" - 2, helicopters CH-53G - 1. At the same time, the habitable volume almost doubled made it possible to carry out on the basis of "Wiesel-2" a family of landing vehicles for various purposes. Among them - a combat reconnaissance vehicle, light armored personnel carrier, transport, sanitary evacuation, command and staff vehicles, a self-propelled 120-mm mortar, a radiation and chemical reconnaissance vehicle.

see there

[Bad_gr]

Text:

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

When there are already tens of thousands of these:

Quote: Bad_gr

Are there examples of using this box as an amphibious assault vehicle?

refers to BTR113

Regarding the "Wiesel", it is clear that its small size is due to the capabilities of air transport, but when I wrote "Is it better for a landing party?" it meant that the equipment for the landing, created not by weak German engineers, has the same "shortcomings" that they are trying to ascribe to our landing vehicles + more of their own, due to their small size. Nevertheless, the Germans are developing this line of BMD and do not think to replace it with ordinary armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Bad_gr

Nevertheless, the Germans are developing this line of BMD and do not think to replace it with ordinary armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.

No one is going to drop Wiesel with a parachute. Although they can. But this is nonsense. They will be airlifted by planes and helicopters. Main Wiesel 1/2 can be re-rolled UH-60 suspended... And no one considers Wiesel a full-fledged armored personnel carrier or infantry fighting vehicle, this is a replacement SUVs, in the USA in this class Humvee and L-ATV, we have Tiger and UAZ.
BTR-MDM and BMD are full-fledged armored vehicles that are a direct analogue of the BMP-2/3 and BTR-80. In the US, it's Stryker. Which is easily dropped by parachute. In Germany, it's Boxer, not Wiesel.
The fact that the M113 was not dropped with a parachute is not because it is impossible, but because it is unnecessary. The same heavier Stryker was dropped by parachute. This tactic is pointless.
By the way, Wiesel 2 also has a normal, human entrance from the stern.

[DMi]

Interestingly, and who, where and when the last time carried out a real landing operation from the air? In combat conditions, with a combat mission.

[OgnennyiKotik]

USA in Afghanistan. They often do them. They have 45% of the army brigades and 70% of the National Guard are light airmobile. But this is somewhat different from the landing operations of the Second World War. A bit like that.

[max702]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

USA in Afghanistan.

Was there a parachute landing or a helicopter?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Are they sick in the head, in order to land with a parachute? What's the point of this? Airborne assault is going differently now.
Hey, it's 2021 now, not 1944.

[max702]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Are they sick in the head, in order to land with a parachute?

And yet you love my head! What kind of landing is this? From point A to point B, a military unit was transported by helicopters .. We have hundreds of such landings in the north of the shift workers a day!

[vl903]

will buy when we have thousands in the army and if they fight well. armor and corner bottom in the airmobile version how to fit? although it is necessary to try, bmd4 development of the 1990s. the airborne forces had to seize the bridgehead sharply, and then the heavy infantry had to work. airborne infantry will always lose in a duel - they are not intended for this. м113 dense old stuff. no mobility, no armor (in the mobile version), no stealth, drive the coffin of the natives and dissect comfortably in the rear. Octopus is like a Colt, it will be lucky for those paratroopers who will have it at the right moment and unlucky for those who instead will have only rpg flies and bumblebees.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: vl903

Octopus is like a Colt, it will be lucky for those paratroopers who will have it at the right moment and unlucky for those who instead will have only rpg flies and bumblebees.

Or maybe ATGM Kornet-D ...

Range up to 10 km, armor penetration for DZ - 1300mm, weight of PU 9P163M-1 26kg.

[Klingon]

I don’t understand everything, does the Russian defense industry develop such equipment for whom? for Homo-Sapiens or for Homo-Hobbitus? maybe for Homo-Zombius? (Dead man got out or didn't get out; got stuck because he ate honey ??) At least one pot-bellied general, taking such samples of the Shell type, tried to climb in and jump from this unit on the go ??
where is the ramp, will it ever appear on such samples?

[loki565]

I don’t understand everything, does the Russian defense industry develop such equipment for whom? for Homo-Sapiens or for Homo-Hobbitus? maybe for Homo-Zombius? (Dead man got out or didn't get out; got stuck because he ate honey ??) At least one pot-bellied general, taking such samples of the Shell type, tried to climb in and jump from this unit on the go ?? wassat
where is the ramp, will it ever appear on such samples?

Do you regularly jump on the ramp on the move?))) And so the customer wants to do the technique with the ramp, but there other disadvantages arise)))

[vl903]

Quote: cat Rusich

Quote: vl903

Octopus is like a Colt, it will be lucky for those paratroopers who will have it at the right moment and unlucky for those who instead will have only rpg flies and bumblebees.

Or maybe ATGM Kornet-D ...

Range up to 10 km, armor penetration for DZ - 1300mm, weight of PU 9P163M-1 26kg.

it is an anti-tank weapon. and the Octopus tank gun is, first of all, a powerful and cheap land mine. Airborne forces land where there is no powerful systemic defense. achieves goals quickly. further, either unwinds or the main forces come to them. otherwise krants. and the cornet will help hold out until the approach of their heavy forces.

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Not a single country in the world like Russia is landing equipment!