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In Russia, began the development of a new light MLRS caliber 80-mm

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In Russia, began the development of a new light MLRS caliber 80-mm

The Russian army can get into service with a new light multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) of 80-mm caliber, the development of the complex is already underway.


Work on the new MLRS began at the NPO "Splav" named after A. N. Ganichev, which is the developer of all the multiple launch rocket systems in service with the Russian troops. To date, the development is at the stage of determining the technical appearance of the complex, the next stage will be the creation of a prototype and its testing. If the military are satisfied with the proposed characteristics, the work will be continued.

As told "RIA News" Aleksandr Kochkin, executive director of Tekhmash, representatives of the Ministry of Defense were shown the concept of a new light MLRS and its planned appearance. The military requested a wheeled chassis for the complex as a base one, and also determined the range of tasks that the new complex should solve. Taking these requirements into account, a new mini-system will be created.

According to preliminary data, the new light MLRS will be able to be installed on cars, and use unguided weapons as ammunition. aviation missiles of the S-8 type of 80-mm caliber, taken as a basis. It is possible that in the future, special ammunition of increased range and power will be developed for the new complex.

Note that in 2018, the Ministry of Defense completed state tests of the new NAR S-8OFP "Armor-piercer", designed to destroy light armored vehicles and surface ships at a distance of up to 6 km. Its peculiarity is that, depending on the task, it can explode when it hits an obstacle, in front of it or behind an obstacle. The new rocket continued the line of the C-8 family of missiles, differing from the basic version with a charge power that exceeded the previous samples by 5-6 times.
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  1. spirit
    spirit April 15 2021 11: 43
    +15
    Like this or what? only on the tiger)
    1. Couchexpert
      Couchexpert April 15 2021 11: 55
      +16

      Or this. This is exactly 80mm.
      1. vvvjak
        vvvjak April 15 2021 12: 06
        +16
        Quote: CouchExpert
        Or this. This is exactly 80mm.

        Or so:

        Belarusian version. Called "Flute"
        1. Couchexpert
          Couchexpert April 15 2021 12: 32
          +10

          Yes, the topic is fertile and has a long history. We can only say that the original C-8, designed to be launched from top to bottom, and even using a non-zero carrier speed, has a corresponding engine. But when from the ground in a parabola ...
          Quote: article
          Note that in 2018, the Ministry of Defense completed state tests of the new NAR S-8OFP "Armor-piercer", designed to destroy light armored vehicles and surface ships at a distance of up to 6 km.

          Up to 6 km will hardly work, if only with some new missiles, already adapted for "ground-to-ground".
          1. venik
            venik April 15 2021 15: 08
            +1
            Quote: CouchExpert
            Yes, the topic is fertile and has a long history.

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            good

            laughing Small-caliber:

            drinks
          2. Eug
            Eug April 16 2021 07: 35
            0
            An accelerator that accelerates to the "aviation" launch speed.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 15 2021 12: 26
        +6
        Such an MLRS can be placed on a robotic platform just for urban combat.
  2. Tuzik
    Tuzik April 15 2021 11: 44
    +1
    fits on a tiger or a motorcycle league, a mobile device of the front edge
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 April 15 2021 11: 55
      +10
      For the airmobile brigades of the new look, just right. And the helicopter, on occasion, will drag away. Hail / Tornadoes are heavy and will be excessive.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 15 2021 11: 58
      +7
      Quote: Tuzik
      fits on a tiger or a motorcycle league, a mobile device of the front edge

      No, this is clearly a request from the airmobile troops for helicopter landing. As well as in other countries.


      C-LYNX stands for "Compact Lynx", the system is positioned as a support weapon for special forces during operations behind enemy lines. PU is air-transportable on C-130 Hercules transport aircraft (and its analogues), equipped with navigation, communication, command and control systems. The missile used in the system is a 122-mm adjustable Accular 12, has a range of 35 km, a CEP of 10 m, carries a 20-kg unitary warhead (penetrating or HE with ready-made fragments, the so-called COFRAM - Controlled fragmentation of munitions).
    3. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich April 15 2021 20: 41
      +1
      Quote: Tuzik
      fits on a tiger or a motorcycle league, a mobile device of the front edge

      For leading edge must be installed on the T-72 chassis. As an example of TOS-1 "Buratino".
      To protect against small-caliber artillery of various infantry fighting vehicles or protection against shrapnel from 120mm mortars and other larger caliber artillery.
      soldier
      PS
      "Mobility" needed against "tachanok" And other "armored targets"
      TOS-1 Buratino
      TOS-1 Buratino
      TOS-1 Buratino
      Here's a "Front edge" angry
  3. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik April 15 2021 11: 48
    +6
    It looks like the generals have seen enough of such decisions in Syria and its environs.


    In Britain and the United States, there are also attempts to put Hydras on a car chassis. But they are already managed there.


    The most successful solution in this segment in China is their 107 mm MLRS Type-63 mass solution, used in almost all modern wars. From the latter in Karabakh.
  4. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 April 15 2021 12: 02
    +1
    The new rocket continued the line of the C-8 family of missiles, differing from the basic version with a charge power that exceeded the previous samples by 5-6 times.

    Well, now again, reverse unification - use as aircraft C-8, but more powerful.
  5. Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst April 15 2021 12: 09
    +3
    80mm MLRS with a range of 6 km are the mind games of unemployed industrial designers. I do not think that the MO will lead to such empty shiny enticements.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 15 2021 12: 21
      +3
      Well, in the viscous city battles, no further is needed. Throw pencils in the area, out of the building in this. Moreover, Toyota will leave - bahn and will come back.

      In Syria, even destroyers of pillboxes / high-rise buildings were allowed to do so.



    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 15 2021 12: 29
      +3
      Quote: Scharnhorst
      I do not think that the MO will lead to such empty shiny enticements.

      It seems that the MO also orders this.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 April 15 2021 12: 10
    0
    In Russia, began the development of a new light MLRS caliber 80-mm
    ... Now I can only guess what it will be.
  7. tlauicol
    tlauicol April 15 2021 12: 12
    +1
    We will catch up and overtake Belarus!
  8. mark1
    mark1 April 15 2021 12: 13
    +3
    Something I was not particularly impressed with. I would like to read a clear rationale. So far I can see - utilization of surplus stocks of aircraft C-80s + subsequent loading of production lines. All other ideas are perfectly correlated with 122 mm ammunition (vary with the length, warhead mass, number of guides ...)
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 15 2021 12: 32
      +2
      If the PSU were controlled, then one could understand. Type of point defeat of weakly defended targets that does not cause large additional destruction.
  9. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. April 15 2021 12: 37
    +5
    Rocket car

    I would like to ask, why did RPU-14 not please, what to put it in the back, as all the poor do?
    140 mm MLRS power will be 80 mm more effective.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 15 2021 13: 19
      +3
      Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
      140 mm MLRS power will be 80 mm more effective.

      80mm is so that the neighboring hut is not destroyed. laughing
  10. Basarev
    Basarev April 15 2021 12: 41
    +2
    At first, they laughed at the Khlamin crafts with C-8 blocks, now they themselves went there.
  11. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 15 2021 12: 50
    +3
    Well, I don't know ... who loves Krakow sausage, and who loves pork cartilage! In Russia (and not only in Russia ...) there have already been several attempts to create an 80-mm MLRS ... and prototypes of them were created ... but in the Russian Federation they never accepted a single model for service! As for Tekhmash, there were already messages from them about two years ago about the "light MLRS"! The messages were even more "chic" than they are now! Estimated caliber: 50-80 mm ... a universal system that allows you to "bullet" at ground and air targets, having uncontrolled and controlled eres in ammunition, and a radar (or with an OES) ACS (BIUS) ... That is, it was possible to use not only "ground" missiles from the C-5/8 family and based on them; but also "anti-aircraft nails", for example, from the ammunition of the "Pantsir" air defense missile system ... Thus, it becomes possible not only to smack a machine-gun nest or ATGM with a mortar ...; but also to scare a helicopter, a UAV ... or even a rocket " Q-P "Now, more modest" voice acting "!
    1. nikon7717
      nikon7717 April 15 2021 19: 20
      0
      As it has already been suggested here, if this lightweight system is immediately planned as a robotic one, with a radar, an ACS, a 360 ° rotation and a vertical start, then this is definitely a universal thing. And minigrad and close air defense. Blocks especially if you take ready-made and with minimal requirements so that the price does not bite
  12. Intruder
    Intruder April 15 2021 13: 02
    +4
    NAR S-8OFP "Armored fighter", designed to destroy light armored vehicles and surface ships at a distance of up to 6 km. Its peculiarity is that, depending on the task, it can explode when it hits an obstacle, in front of it or behind an obstacle.
    Interestingly, they mastered controlled (programmable) blasting, and what, with a radio fuse or ...!?
    Although the solution, clearly for small-tense and "economical" local conflicts and counter-terrorist operations in the Middle, should go to the market in the economy version! yes
    PS and so, various designs of NARs 80-mm.-woks have been known since the last century, who just did not install and use them, from Europe (to Yugoslavia), to Afgan and the Middle East, with Africa




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    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 15 2021 13: 07
      -1
      By the way, there are a lot of options, there are on robotic platforms and not even self-propelled ones, or just old and good MTLB-shki ...:



  13. Esaul
    Esaul April 15 2021 13: 21
    +5
    The next will be the development of a shihad mobile with a robot Fedor inside
  14. Sergey Aleksandrovich
    Sergey Aleksandrovich April 15 2021 13: 40
    +2
    It is not clear what it is for. It seems that the development of the Bulat rocket module, which they were going to adapt to the roof of the Epoch module, is delayed. And they decided to quickly build a module from unguided rockets. Otherwise, it is not clear how the 122 mm hail did not please, to put it on a platform with an armored cabin, so the modernization for direct fire is ready.
  15. Victor Gubankov
    Victor Gubankov April 15 2021 14: 01
    +1
    Apparently full of stocks of 80 mm shells. Well, for each case its own caliber. And it is not a problem to develop a package of guides and adapt to the chassis.
  16. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz April 15 2021 14: 23
    -1
    A zachem 80 mm? Tolko esli upravlyaemie. 122 mm vpolne spravitsa.
  17. spectr
    spectr April 15 2021 14: 45
    +3
    It looks like our military has studied the "Syrian carts" and wanted something similar. Interestingly, they understand where this can be used? IMHO, the technique is suitable only for highly mobile groups, such as airborne forces and sabotage units.
  18. moreman78
    moreman78 April 15 2021 14: 47
    -1
    Quote: Victor Gubankov
    Apparently full of stocks of 80 mm shells. Well, for each case its own caliber. And it is not a problem to develop a package of guides and adapt to the chassis.

    This is not a reason to breed a variety in technology (we already have in service with THREE MLRS systems - 300mm, 220mm and 122mm). By this logic, if you make a joke in the warehouses, then there are plenty of shells for 76,2mm cannons, is that a reason to create a modern analogue of the ZIS-3?
    All this seems to smell like another cut in R&D, as with endless projects of all kinds of armored vehicles ...
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich April 15 2021 15: 51
      0
      Now there is a craze for wheeled tanks, the 76-mm caliber is very suitable for them.
  19. nonsense
    nonsense April 15 2021 15: 11
    -2
    sad hmm ... a dream of reason and triumph drank dough from the Ministry of Defense ... And what kind of tasks can this misunderstanding that 82mm mortars or 57 mm LSHO do? Or on a kraynyak, CBT in calories 220mm.? - None. EMNIP and from a helicopter it is closer than two km to these NURSs to get into something (this is a direct fire!) And even from a jihadomobile, even more so ... Experience does not teach the MO ... anything except cutting the budget ...
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich April 15 2021 15: 33
      +2
      Let's say, the difference from 82 mm mines and 57 mm LSHO will be in the power of the ammunition. But the advantages over RPU-14 and even more so 9K54 "Grad-V" are no longer so obvious, only in the speed of deployment and immediate readiness to open fire, for example, under armor protection in urban environments and when firing direct fire.
  20. bars1
    bars1 April 15 2021 16: 55
    +1
    I think the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is preparing for future battles with the barmaley in Central Asia, hence the corresponding technique. For more, it is not suitable.
  21. garri-lin
    garri-lin April 15 2021 19: 18
    +1
    A strange and illogical decision. Arousing vague suspicions. This is not necessary in the army at all from the word. Export only.