"Explanations are not accepted": Shoigu was dissatisfied with the pace of construction of a dry dock for "Admiral Kuznetsov"

The head of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, was dissatisfied with the pace of construction of a dry dock on the territory of the 35th shipyard in Murmansk.

The Minister of Defense, who visited the Northern Fleet with an inspection, at the same time inspected the construction of a dry dock at the 35th shipyard in Murmanka, intended, among other things, for the docking of the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov. Shoigu noted the insufficient pace of construction and stated the need to build up forces and resources to complete the work on time.

At the same time, he did not accept the explanations of the USC management about the unfairness of the first contractor, due to which there is a lag in the work schedule. The minister demanded to hand over the object on time.

All these explanations are not accepted. We need a dock, we need to repair and modernize the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov"

- he said.

Recall that the contract for the modernization of the dry dock at the 35th shipyard for docking Admiral Kuznetsov was signed in July 2019 after the flooding of the floating dock PD-50. The modernization itself consists in the reconstruction of two adjacent dry docks of the plant (one 187 m long and 28 m wide at the top, and another 236 m long and 30,8 m at the top, both docks have a bottom width of 22 m) into one large dock by demolishing the partitions between them. As a result of modernization, the largest dry dock in Russia will be created for the reception of large vessels and ships, which will have a length of 335 m and a width of 60 m on the bottom and 70 m on top.

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[rocket757]

"Explanations are not accepted": Shoigu was dissatisfied with the pace of construction of a dry dock for "Admiral Kuznetsov"

And org conclusions are made?

[Rage66]

Quote: rocket757

And org conclusions are made?

Question to the forum participants, or rhetorical?

[rocket757]

Of course, rhetorical ... do you hope for some kind of answer, from the top, to some of our questions?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

In any case, the actions of each official must be given (as lawyers say) - qualifications.

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

In any case, the actions of each official must be given (as lawyers say) - qualifications.

And it seems to me that the guys are looking at VOs, on the site there is a fight for and against Kuznetsov, so they turn on the pendulum it would be funny if it was not so sad

[antivirus]

everyone is looking at everything - and in the pocket. and fight only for the pocket. it's hard to roll a barrel uphill ...

[marchcat]

But if the org conclusions are the same as with Serdyukov, then the meaning of such conclusions?

[Eldorado]

Now the chief repairman of "Kuzi" is imprisoned for embezzlement.

[Sancho_SP]

The main one or the last one?

[rocket757]

Didn't share on time, most likely.

[ermak124.0]

Did the investigation inform you?

[rocket757]

Do you know how the investigation is going?
I didn’t share the account ... a free guess because of not knowing the facts. It is not necessary that it is true, because I am not on the jury, when you cannot fantasize ... you only need to follow reliable, verified facts.

[ramzay21]

Now the chief repairman of "Kuzi" is imprisoned for embezzlement.

Nobody will jail the main one

[Sling cutter]

Quote: rocket757

"Explanations are not accepted": Shoigu was dissatisfied with the pace of construction of a dry dock for "Admiral Kuznetsov"

And org conclusions are made?

Do you think that the chief shaman will resign? Maybe he will dismiss the deputies? Still no, he will simply express dissatisfaction, which in the language of laurel is called concern.

[rocket757]

We are not supposed to think ... a joke.
Why do we need to think, break our heads, everything has been clear for a long time ...
Maximum, ostentatious noise and ... nothing more. This system works like that.

[spirit]

This situation reminded me of a Soviet cartoon

[Sling cutter]

Quote: rocket757

We're not supposed to think ... joke.
Why do we need to think, break our heads, everything has been clear for a long time ...

That's it, that's for sure! If you turn off all fed. channels, then in a month all the shaigu will be remembered only in sad anecdotes

[rocket757]

Come on, Shoigu as a "ray of sunshine in the dark kingdom"
The upper ones are no worse than a steam locomotive, they must have at least something to show!
Explain that the "system" is such and they will NEVER do anything differently ... I'm probably tired of it.
Those who wanted to know have been in the know for a long time, and those who do not want to know anything ... we cannot force him to change his mind ... there are not many of us, and there is nothing special to convince now.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: rocket757

Those who wanted to know have been in the know for a long time, and those who do not want to know anything ... we cannot force him to change his mind ... there are not many of us, and there is nothing special to convince now.

Cover them with facts, Dear Comrade, only with facts! For example, how much does it cost to build / buy a dock, for example, from Koreans / Chinese, and how much does a new yacht of a friend of a friend of a friend’s friends’s drug-baron olishherchik usmanchik cost ?!

Half a billion Russian stolen bucks and one parasite, pure for show-off !!!

[rocket757]

Quote: Stroporez

Cover them with facts,

So everything is already covered and closed .... no, it can work when you need to attract / shake the Oscillators! Here only the hesitant can only JOIN someone!
The question is, WHOM to join ???
I have already noted more than once that to join, to follow someone convincing, understandable, for OWN !!! with this we have sour, while ...

[Roman070280]

for OWN !!! with this we have sour, while ...

And how the Kremlin can take OWN among strangers ??

Here in the American Congress, for example, it is also sour with "ours" .. which is quite logical .. because the Congress is American ..
Likewise, there will be no OWN in the Kremlin, as long as everything there is under control of OWN.

[rocket757]

I wrote more than once that at the expense of the upper, current, I do not feel illusions and .... it is clear, for me, NOT YOURSELF.

[Roman070280]

a new yacht of a friend of a friend of friends, a narco-baronchik olisherchik usmanchik ?!

With his ryakha, he will still be cramped there ..
Otherwise, why are such sizes in their right mind ...
(and they also argue with me, they say our king also did not fall into insanity)

Half a billion Russian stolen bucks and one parasite, pure for show-off !!!

The second video I watched "..boggled the imagination of the Spaniards .."
As for me, the headline "Russia is strengthening its presence in Spain" would be more appropriate.
(I think Kuznetsov would have attracted less attention if he had moored in Barcelona ..)

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Roman070280

(I think Kuznetsov would have attracted less attention if he had moored in Barcelona ..)

Kamrad! The fleet of yachts on the roadsteads of Spain, France, And the waist and other "Caribbean basins", owned by thieves of a friend of friends, is 1,5 times higher than the cost of the entire total surface fleet of the Russian Federation.

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Stroporez

Cover them with facts, Dear Comrade, only with facts! For example, how much does it cost to build / buy a dock, for example, from Koreans / Chinese, and how much does a new yacht of a friend of a friend of a friend’s friends’s drug-baron olishherchik usmanchik cost ?!

Here's a fact-dock built in Korea / China in the Far East is not needed, there is one. Even if they do, how are they going to drive them to Murmansk? Consult there on the couch with your General Staff, the Federation Council from the kitchen, plug in, can you find the answer?

[maratkoRuEkb]

Why did you decide that Usmanov bought himself a yacht with stolen money? do you have proof? Then submit them to the prosecutor's office!
And if there is no evidence then you yap.
One character, a certain Navalny, lost the case to Usmanov in court, because he also spanked without evidence.
Usmanov bought a yacht with the money he earned, he is actually a businessman and has a decent income, he pays taxes. If I hadn't paid, there would have been questions from the Tax Office.
When you write such comments, you just envy that you do not have such a clever connection and position as Usmanov, for example, so what is your squeak about yachts? a call to take away and divide? He has such a yacht because he can buy it, he earned it, and you are stupidly jealous and shit at people.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Stroporez

that the head shaman will resign?

do the Ukrainians care?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: NEOZ

do the Ukrainians care?

Do you see Russian up to the waist? I like such gussies as friends, then I don't need enemies

[NEOZ]

Quote: Stroporez

I like such gussies as friends, then I don't need enemies

yes you have half of Russia enemies of Russia ..... perhaps you are your own enemy .....

[VORON538]

This character is constantly going to hang someone, then shoot :))) The couch warrior in general.

[sustav75]

And from what side are the non-brothers here? Do you think that the Russian people in Russia are insanely rejoicing at our aligarchic elite? I'll just tell you, many hate them, many do not want to talk about them and their deeds, they simply do not notice! They bribed many ...

[NEOZ]

Quote: sustav75

I'll just tell you, a lot of people hate them,

Yes? and why? clarify please.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: sustav75

I'll just tell you, a lot of people hate them,

Yes? and why? clarify please.

Well, how ... after all, all the bosses wipe their pants, all the bosses steal, all the bosses take bribes, all the bosses are incompetent, etc. etc.

[sustav75]

Well, I won't write about the swing, be offended yet! Just dismiss the explanation to you.

[NEOZ]

Quote: sustav75

Just dismiss the explanation to you.

blurted out, but you do not need to substantiate your words? - this is so in Ukrainian ..........

[Sling cutter]

Quote: sustav75

And from what side are the non-brothers here? Do you think that the Russian people in Russia are insanely rejoicing at our aligarchic elite?

Kamrad! Pay no attention to the Olginsky kremlebot trolls.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Stroporez

trolls kremlebotov.

Whose bot are you? Kiev?

[your1970]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: Roman070280
(I think Kuznetsov would have attracted less attention if he had moored in Barcelona ..)
Kamrad!

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: sustav75
And from what side are the non-brothers here? Do you think that the Russian people in Russia are insanely rejoicing at our aligarchic elite?

Kamrad!

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: Roman070280
Well, some kind of woodpecker put a minus on the video of Usmanov's yacht ..
Here either Usmanov himself - or such a "Russian", rejoicing for a friend of a friend ..))

Kamrad

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: tihonmarine
There were times when everything was simple and quick - "Comrade Beria, figure it out."
In a day - "Comrade Stalin, the organizational conclusions have been made. Tomorrow the dry dock will be ready."

Kamrad!

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: paul3390
In-in .. Would have shot with a show on TV about a dozen particularly distinguished, as in China, for example - stopudovo within six months the dock would have already been .. But can they really touch their own? Something painfully reminiscent of the situation under the last king.
Camrad,

a bad desire to write to the admins - so that the word "Camrad" equated to obscene ...
It is indecent (an obscene word, so more precisely) somehow on a Russian military site - to use GERMAN used word in the SS - as the only reference to each other within SS units ...
Especially since you - positioning itself as an ardent supporter of the USSR - who participated in the hanging of the "Kamrad" in Nuremberg

[Sling cutter]

Quote: your1970

It's a good desire to write to the admins - so that the word "Kamrad" is equated with obscene ...
It is indecent (an obscene word, so more precisely) somehow on a Russian military website - to use the GERMAN word that was used in the SS - as the only reference to each other within SS units ...

but in my opinion, I would have banned you forever, patamushta: "Kamrad (English comrade, German Kamerad, Spanish camarada, French camarade) -" comrade "in translation from European languages. The word came from Latin, where" camera "In this context means a room or room in which all military comrades live together. In Russian, too, is written with" a "(and the language of the bastards has nothing to do with it)."
And remember that in 1939 all Spanish volunteers were called "KAMRADS" !!!

[your1970]

I repeat

Quote: your1970

the word that was used in the SS - as the only reference to each other within the SS units ...

"When addressing a group of SS officers, junior in rank, the senior SS man addressed them not" Lord "(" meine herren "), but" comrades "(" Kamraden ")."
"In the SS - FT - during off-duty time! - it was even allowed to refer to" you "(including a lower rank SS man to a higher rank, for example:" Comrade (comrade) Hauptsturmführer ", or simply" Hauptsturmfuehrer ", etc.). while in the Wehrmacht, on the contrary, not only the lower ranks to the senior in rank, but also the senior in rank to the junior were obliged to apply to the “you” accepted in the “old regime” of the Prussian royal and German Kaiser army). "

You would like to trump "Comrades" instead of the word "Comrade" - your right.It is strange for a person who lived in the USSR to disdain the word "Comrade" (which in your post would be quite appropriate ) and stick to the place and not to the place "Comrade" from the SS, but you want it this way .. well, go ahead, cheer further ..

I expressed my attitude to this word ...

Quote: Stroporez

And remember that in 1939 all Spanish volunteers were called "KAMRADS" !!!

- Well, you will remember that there were only about 2 thousand Soviet volunteers there out of 41 thousand. Total 000% ...
it would be more (10-20-30-50%) - they would say not universal and understandable for all participating nations "Kamrad" - but "Comrade" ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: your1970

- Well, you will remember that there were only about 2 thousand Soviet volunteers there out of 41 thousand. Total 000% ...
it would be more (10-20-30-50%) - they would say not universal and understandable for all participating nations "Kamrad" - but "Comrade" ...

Colleague! With all my other services to the Motherland, I also graduated from a linguistic school for in-depth study of fr. language, respectively, with similar and understanding where that came from, and now translate the question
le compagnon m.
.Nos compagnons sur le champs de bataille nous aident à réduire les risques au combat or
le camarade m.!
That's when you translate and at the same time finding roots in Latin and, like "Celtic, then I'll be ready to argue with you, but for now, learn the materiel!

[your1970]

as much as you like - Kamrad so Kamrad, roots in Latin are so roots, SS ... - well, God be with you! Everything is on your conscience ...
It is strange - for a person of the USSR to use an alien word instead of the word "Comrade", and even with a negative connotation

ZY I repeat - the USSR "Kamradov" SS hanged (and not only in Nuremberg)

[Sling cutter]

Quote: your1970

as much as you like - Kamrad so Kamrad, roots in Latin are so roots, SS ... - well, God be with you! Everything is on your conscience ...
It is strange - for a person of the USSR to use an alien word instead of the word "Comrade", and even with a negative connotation

But, it is not necessary to juggle, the fascists had a "genosse", but for the gifted "genosse".
I repeat, colleague, you screwed up, as usual, even Vika says to you. "Genosse [ɡəˈnɔsə] noun m. Comrade is a term meaning friend or ally;"
PySy. I try not to get into an argument without knowing the subject, in this case you are a LOSER

[your1970]

Quote: Stroporez

PySy. I try not to get into an argument without knowing the subject, in this case you are a LOSER

I am personally for you, stubborn against the goal and not reading opponent- cited quotes:

Quote: your1970

"Addressing the group оSS officers, junior in rank, senior SS man addressed them not "Gentlemen" ("meine herren"), but "comrades" ("Kamraden")."
"AT MOP - FT— during off-duty hours! - it was even allowed to refer to "you" (including a lower rank SS man to a higher rank, for example: "Comrade (comrade) Hauptsturmführer ", or simply "Hauptsturmführer", etc., while in the Wehrmacht, on the contrary, not only the lower ranks to the senior in rank, but also the senior in rank to the junior were obliged to apply to what was accepted in the "old regime" Prussian royal and German Kaiser's army "you"). "

These are fairly well-known facts, and if you don't know about it ...

Continue to use GERMAN words instead Russian - since you like it so much ...

I would have looked at you, how would you blurt out your own words to the front-line soldiers - "Comrades", yeah ...

I repeat

Quote: your1970

the USSR "Kamradov" SS hanged (and not only in Nuremberg)

[Sling cutter]

Quote: your1970

Continue to persist in using the GERMAN word instead of Russian - if you like it so much ...

Don't you want to hear? Kamrad is an international word and for everyone, I will remind you that comrade "Che" was also Kamrad

[your1970]

Quote: Stroporez

Comrade is an international word and for everyone, I will remind you that Comrade "Che" was also Kamrad

So the SS were also international
- all the nations of the Eurasian continent took part ... And all were Kamrads too ...

[Roman070280]

Do you think that the Russian people in Russia are insanely rejoicing at our aligarchic elite?

Well, some kind of woodpecker put a minus on the video of Usmanov's yacht ..
Here either Usmanov himself - or such a "Russian", rejoicing for a friend of a friend ..))

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Roman070280

Well, some kind of woodpecker put a minus on the video of Usmanov's yacht ..
Here either Usmanov himself - or such a "Russian", rejoicing for a friend of a friend ..))

Comrade, it is difficult now to assess the mental state of many fellow citizens, because they can simultaneously praise Putin's "peremogues", be proud and honor Stalin, at the same time put Mendel for the drug lord's yacht, hate kaklov and at the same time eat Odessa sausage, drinking vodka and eating borsch with dumplings having a surname ending in "enko".
Paradox.

[didra]

They put you cons for your and your comrades' pathology. It is not so important what you cover up your inferiority.

[Roman070280]

Pathology Sling cutter post above just described ..))

[didra]

I just explained (as best I could) why you are given the disadvantages.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

"Explanations are not accepted": Shoigu was dissatisfied with the pace of construction of a dry dock for "Admiral Kuznetsov"
And org conclusions are made?

There were times when everything was simple and quick - "Comrade Beria, figure it out."
In a day - "Comrade Stalin, the organizational conclusions have been made. Tomorrow the dry dock will be ready."

[rocket757]

Not so quickly and simply, but in the hands of the comrades there were effective levers, methods of influence, which greatly contributed to the achievement of the GOALS necessary for the PEOPLE and the COUNTRY !!!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: tihonmarine

There were times when everything was simple and quick - "Comrade Beria, figure it out."
In a day - "Comrade Stalin, the organizational conclusions have been made. Tomorrow the dry dock will be ready."

Kamrad! The era of building socialism has sunk into oblivion more than 30 years ago, and neither Comrade Stalin nor Comrade Beria, and there are little people and "jackets" like shoigu and a TV picture glorifying naked torsos, wandering through the taiga and playing hockey of elderly novukhudonosors.

[rocket757]

Quote: Stroporez

tv picture

Yes, it is now necessary, "important".

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Stroporez

novukhudonosorov.

Who are they ?? New skinny rhinos?
Or are you talking about "the instrument of revenge of Yahweh to the Jews" - the king of Babylon, as Jeremiah called him? So after all, NAvukhOdonosor took the kagal of the noble Jews hostage and took them to Babylon for permanent residence. The Jews were not happy with such an original and fresh decision and called Nebuchadnezzar a tyrant and other bad words .. Nevertheless, when many years after the death of Nebuchadnezzar, when completely different historical figures began to strangle the Jews, and they strangle them hard, until extinction, then Nebuchadnezzar suddenly became a positive character and the Jews, it turns out, he defended and guarded from persecution.
So I think now, what did you want to convey your thoughts to us?
And yet, forgive my curiosity, you cut the slings to whom? To yourself?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

So I think now, what did you want to convey your thoughts to us?

Ha, but here everything is simple, the phraseological unit itself evokes a negative and understandable meaning for a Russian person, but someone doesn’t understand something, so I insert pictures and vidos into comments, it’s clear for understanding.

[sustav75]

It's scary and funny! There is no golden mean in Russia! Either they shoot in batches, or they steam together in the baths with the "artists" Vasilievs ... (Serdyukov)

[NEOZ]

Quote: tihonmarine

There were times when everything was simple and fast

no regrets about the old days ... perhaps in those times you would have already been shot !!!

[Real Pilot]

And what would Comrade Beria say to that?
An unscrupulous contractor, you see ... and not on time ...

PS: Beria supervised and supervised the Soviet nuclear program in such a way that by August 29, 1949, the first atomic bomb test was carried out by the war-torn country ... Four years after the Great Victory. I'm not hinting at anything, just let's compare the scale of individuals, methods and projects!
And PD-50 sank in 2018.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: RealPilot

just let's compare the scale of individuals, methods and projects!

So I say, the Atlantean country was captured by dwarfs-skiers.

[kamarada]

See how the truth cuts with minuses. I do not like

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Kamarada

Look how the truth cuts with minuses. I do not like

Kremlebots rage

[NEOZ]

Quote: RealPilot

Beria supervised and supervised the Soviet nuclear program in such a way that by August 29, 1949, the first atomic bomb test was carried out by the war-torn country ...

just the USSR was in the face of atomic bombing of the cities of the USSR ...
the return to service of "Kuznetsov" is not as archival as the bomb in 1949.

[sustav75]

Right now they will sit in the sauna, grind it, how to live with it further! They will pick a glass and disperse, who where ...

[Denis Rumyanny]

It's good if they pick a glass. They can and on a suitcase from green dead presidents will bite and disperse. The second is more likely in our time.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And org conclusions are made?

Of course, the director of the plant was shot, and some of the engineers were exiled to Siberia.

[rocket757]

In any joke, there must be some joke.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: rocket757

And org conclusions are made?

To get rid of the bosses who did not follow the instructions, to hell, in extreme cases, a severe reprimand. And to plant especially fines.

[rocket757]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Remove the bosses,

And they get him ??? and not moved to other, no less "grain" places?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: rocket757

And they get him ???

Do you know exactly what they don't get? Or are the only one or two cases characteristic of all such practice?

[rocket757]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Or are the only one or two cases characteristic of all such practice?

Are you sure that there are ONE, TWO typical / non-typical cases?
There are always real indicators, achievements, specific .. persons. Where are they?

[da Vinci]

Huh? And who hired the first contractor - not the MO? Who signed the agreements - not Shoigunists? And who will be responsible? Just with this it is clear - the switchman! ... It's good to be a tough boss: give directions with your finger, but ask from a specific person. No, I do not think that the management of the USC is white and fluffy, but no one there will even sneeze without the approval of the Ministry of Defense.

[rocket757]

Quote: da Vinci

It's good to be a tough boss:

How cool is this?
Big bosses are not gods, they are mistaken, which is annoying, but somehow not so offensive ... but when, due to their stupidity or for some other reason, they ruin everything in a row ... this is already not offensive, but dangerous !!!
Shoigu, after Serdyukov, this is really a breath of air for our Armed Forces, BUT, such a system has developed in the country, VICIOUS, that no one, even the biggest chief, can overcome it ... it will be built into the system in one way or another and no other way!!!
With the SYSTEM, only another SYSTEM can cope !!!

[da Vinci]

Exactly. Simply "bending the fingers" in public characterizes them very accurately.

[MMX]

Shoigu's indignation is understandable: two years to demolish the wall between the two docks ???

[didra]

You can read about the dimensions of the new dock in the article? ... I am not defending anyone, but 22 meters base and 60 meters base, it is not quite possible to move the wall.

[MMX]

Quote: didra

You can read about the dimensions of the new dock in the article? ... I am not defending anyone, but 22 meters base and 60 meters base, it is not quite possible to move the wall.

Well, yes, the Crimean bridge, 18 km long, was built in 3 years, but here the wall of a couple of hundred meters could not be demolished (!) For two years. Wonders.

[didra]

Did you read what I wrote to you? Are you dissatisfied with the construction speed? Shoigu is also not happy.) The width of the new dock is three times larger. If I understood correctly, the ground is rocky. That's all.

[MMX]

It seems you do not understand what is written in the article and what I am writing: the whole reconstruction consists in demolishing a wall between two already existing (!) Docks. Yes, in two years they had to build such 10 docks from scratch. Cut and incompetence.

[didra]

The article says that the width at the base increases from 22 to 60 meters. How to achieve this by removing the transverse partition?

[senima56]

And "where are the landing", Sergei Kozhugetovich ?!

[rocket757]

But this is the right question!

[Denis Rumyanny]

The general has planted a harem, is it not enough for you? Or are you still waiting for a miracle

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: rocket757

And org conclusions are made?

It is easy to make organizational conclusions, it is not easy to find a replacement. Often enough ski-p-and-d-a-ra under the coccyx.

[cormorant]

Not even 3 years have passed ... Maybe they will remember the dock itself ...

[wow]

Correct conclusions could have been drawn under Joseph Vissarionych.

[JonnyT]

Here Lavrenty Pavlovich's approach is needed.
They are accustomed to making cuts from Kuzi, it will turn out to be weaned with words alone

[paul3390]

In-in .. Would have shot with a show on TV about a dozen particularly distinguished, as in China, for example - stopudovo within six months the dock would have already been .. But can they really touch their own? Something painfully reminiscent of the situation under the last king.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: paul3390

A dozen of those who excelled would be shot and shown on TV,

Zachem shoot, "They can't build a dock, let them build the Murmansk-Bering Strait railway"
(not forgetting to dig a tunnel through the strait).

[matross]

Quote: paul3390

Something painfully reminiscent of the situation under the last king.

Have you lived with this pain for over 100 years? Enviable health ...

[paul3390]

Envy is bad - it drains the soul.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: paul3390

Would be shot and shown on TV

I don’t agree, you don’t need to show such horror on TV. Anyway, public executions are archaism and a relic of the dark times.

[paul3390]

If you don't like it, don't look. And I like that with pleasure ..

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: paul3390

If you don't like it, don't look. And I like that with pleasure ..

What a pleasure it is to watch a person die?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: paul3390

In-in .. Would have shot with a show on TV about a dozen particularly distinguished, as in China, for example - stopudovo within six months the dock would have already been .. But can they really touch their own? Something painfully reminiscent of the situation under the last king.

Comrade, the situation under the tsar was much better, then, whatever one may say, there was some kind of honor and conscience, class consciousness and understanding of goal-setting.
Now the devils have dressed up in false patriotism and under these slogans they are shamelessly plundering the country, to the applause of a swathed part of the electorate.

[Denis Rumyanny]

The experience of the last Tsar was taken into account and taken into account ... Children, wives and mistresses were transported to the West. Rotting little by little on the beaches of Miami. Dogs, cats and favorite hamsters were also taken out. Business class on airplanes. Do not worry. All the same, the Petersburg intelligentsia. History was taught, not only German.

[your1970]

Quote: paul3390

A dozen of those who excelled would be shot and shown on TV, as in China, for example - there would have already been a dock for six months.

-in China they have been shot for over 25 years, more than 100 shot ...
Does it help ???? well, well ... there are already waiting lists for tomorrow - those who were born when they just started shooting - have become officials for a long time

[paul3390]

And you compare the scale of production and theft in China - and here. And cry ... So - it helps as well ...

[your1970]

Quote: paul3390

And you compare the scale of production and theft in China - and here. And cry ... So - it helps as well ...

- does not help - otherwise there would have been no corrupt officials for a long time. Even during the period of execution of corrupt officials at stadiums ...

[paul3390]

It is possible to exterminate all corrupt officials only under communism. For as long as there is money, there will be those who steal it. But it is quite possible to minimize the phenomenon. There would be a desire.

[your1970]

no, alas ...
The commander of the fake military unit in the war perfectly understood that - they would catch - the tower - automatically according to the laws of wartime ... Nevertheless, he stole ...
Those who stole food in besieged Leningrad also understood perfectly well that the tower had no options. Nevertheless, they stole ...
"On March 3, 1942, the USSR State Defense Committee adopted a secret resolution No. 1379ss" On the protection of military property of the Red Army in wartime. "According to it, for the theft of weapons, food, uniforms, equipment, fuel and other materials, as well as for its deliberate damage capital punishment - execution with confiscation of all the property of the offender. For squandering military property was supposed to give at least five years in prison. "
The adoption of such a resolution speaks for itself - they dragged it godlessly ... otherwise the banal Criminal Code of 1926 would have been enough ...

And such examples - when death is behind the ear, but a person does not care - not even wagons with carts, but echelons ...

[Antidote]

China, for a minute, from a cup of rice has become the second economy in the world, and does not stop in dynamics.

[your1970]

Quote: Antidote

China, for a minute, from a cup of rice has become the second economy in the world, and does not stop in dynamics.

To China - because of the wild cheapness of labor !! - Western Corporations have invested so much dough and technologies that this, in general, is not surprising ...
Competent leaders of the CPC and competent management of corporations ...

[keeper03]

That's right Sergey Kuzhugetovich, give them a thrush there !!!

[rocket757]

Quote: keeper03

give them a blackbird there

yes, yes, although a line from a Kalash, even over the heads, would prove to be more effective.
And the demonstratively prepared ZYOLENKA would make all the processes turn in an accelerated rhythm and as it should!

[whiteidol]

You can do much more good deeds with a kind word and a gun than just a kind word. In my opinion Al Capone))

[rocket757]

Quote: Whiteidol

You can do much more good deeds with a kind word and a gun than just a kind word. In my opinion Al Capone))

And who proved that a gangster cannot be a philosopher?

[sustav75]

Re-drink them all in the sauna!

[Flashpoint]

Quote: JonnyT

Here Lavrenty Pavlovich's approach is needed.
They are accustomed to making cuts from Kuzi, it will turn out to be weaned with words alone

For someone like Lavrenty Pavlovich, you need Joseph Vissarionovich or Georgy Konstantinovich. And then ...

[Doccor18]

All these explanations are not accepted. We need a dock, we need to repair and upgrade the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov

Briefly and to the point.
Another would be to strengthen personal responsibility for missed deadlines ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Doccor18

Another would be to strengthen personal responsibility for missed deadlines ...

I remembered from the memoirs of one director of the plant during the Second World War.
“They summoned me to the People's Commissariat, offered the post of director of a metallurgical plant in the Urals, if you’re not sure to refuse. And what happened to my predecessor. They were shot, and the other two were imprisoned. I agreed and worked until the end of the war."
And this man knew the price of responsibility.

[Doccor18]

And there were a lot of them.
They worked not out of fear, but conscientiously.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The former People's Commissar of the Oil Industry, in 1943, Stalin summoned him. He instructed to head the People's Commissariat and did not hesitate to say that "if that" - will shoot. At parting he said ““ go. Work. ”I don’t remember exactly, the last name .. That was the STAFF, the Stalinist People's Commissars!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

The former People's Commissar of the Oil Industry, in 1943, Stalin summoned him. He instructed to head the People's Commissariat and did not hesitate to say that "if that" - will shoot. At parting he said ““ go. Work. ”I don’t remember exactly, the last name .. That was the STAFF, the Stalinist People's Commissars!

In their memoirs, they did not write any horrors.
But in fact, the same comrade Zaltsman at the LKZ handed over to the army non-combatant tanks for a year and a half, without eliminating the shortcomings revealed during military operation, and falsified documents, fulfilling the plan retroactively. So what? But nothing - the report of the Mehlis commission was shelved. And Zaltsman himself was soon appointed People's Commissar of the tank industry. He spent a year as a people's commissar - and only after the arrival of the LPB was he removed and sent to the GULAG for the post of director of ChKZ.

And I still don’t remember how Plant No. 2 in 1944 thwarted all the deadlines for the production of a batch of CPV for military trials - despite the fact that the matter was under the control of the head of GAU Marshal Yakovlev, People's Commissar of Armaments Ustinov and personally LPB. Do you know how it all ended? The case was released on the brakes, there were no punishments, the GAU agreed to January 1945 instead of July 1944, noting melancholy that the plant would most likely disrupt this deadline.

I am forced to agree with the deadline for the commissioning of KPV-44 at anti-aircraft installations, as defined by you on January 1, 1945.
However, there are fears that this period by Plant No. 2 will not be fulfilled as well as the previously appointed dates.
Inspection at the factory number 2 found that not all the installation details have been launched into production and the assembly of plants is extremely sluggish.

© Marshal Yakovlev

In this case, the spice is added by the fact that Vladimirov was a designer from the factory design bureau of this very plant

© A.Ulanov

[your1970]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Doccor18

Another would be to strengthen personal responsibility for missed deadlines ...

I remembered from the memoirs of one director of the plant during the Second World War.
“They summoned me to the People's Commissariat, offered the post of director of a metallurgical plant in the Urals, if you’re not sure to refuse. And what happened to my predecessor. They were shot, and the other two were imprisoned. I agreed and worked until the end of the war."
And this man knew the price of responsibility.

- oha ...
There was an article here recently - about armored steel. Since the metallurgists with the same mother by 1944 reduced the percentage of defects from 76% to 54%. Do you understand what this is ????? Not ???
This means that the predecessors of the release of finished armor practically did not have at all ...in war...
And this excellent student (like !!!) - it turned out steel every other time ...
And all this together meant that metallurgists were not able to withstand the composition of steel in general ... the whole war ...
And now scientists are checking the composition of the armor and goofing - which is not there (there was also an article recently) ...

[WHAT IS]

the largest dry dock in Russia for receiving large ships and ships, which will be 335 m long and 60 m wide at the bottom and 70 m at the top.

But what about the dry dock on "Zvezda" with 485 meters in length and 114 in width ..

[Uncle lee]

Quote: WHAT IS

dry dock on "Zvezda"

Yes, but not about your honor!
Tama tankers, gas carriers and drilling rigs are in trend!

[Igoresha]

there workers went on strike during the week, there is no time to build

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Igoresha

workers went on strike during the week

Apparently against big earnings! They do not have time to spend money ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Apparently against big earnings! They don't have time to spend money ...

Against "removal" ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: WHAT IS

But what about the dry dock on "Zvezda" with 485 meters in length and 114 in width ..

And here the dimension is not important, declarations are important for lovers of netanalagaphnetics, it is said, the biggest means the most and caps up.
At one time it was said that the "Zaliv" has the steepest dry dock
Dry dock: length - 360 m width - 60 m height - 13,2 m. The dock is equipped with two GOLIATH cranes with a lifting capacity of 320 tons each, which makes it possible to form blocks weighing more than 600 tons and five portal cranes with a lifting capacity of 80 tons each who provide the production process. The dry dock can be divided into two parts, which makes it possible to use it as a single-chamber for large-tonnage ships, or as a two-chamber, providing the construction (repair) of ships in two independent positions. The length of each dock chamber can be changed by repositioning the removable intermediate gate in any of the four special slots provided for this.

[sustav75]

One dock Sechin and his team drowned, the other for their own enrichment they took! Well, are they not enemies!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: WHAT IS

But what about the dry dock on "Zvezda" with 485 meters in length and 114 in width ..

"Zvezda", unlike SRZ-35, is not included in the USC. The docks seem to be similar, but the pockets are different.

[Mikhail3]

Shoigu can say whatever he wants. The owners of both the first contractor and the subsequent ones are such people that they don't give a damn about him. The economic block, you need to understand! Hehe ...

[keeper03]

For each economic block there is a Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: keeper03

For each economic block there is a Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation

For any Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation there are enough bribe-takers who help to "close their eyes" to the outrages. And then there are Colonels Cherkalina and Zakharchenki ...
If ITSELF (!!!) can't do a damn thing with the prices, then to some minister a millionaire right in the morning, as he smears a sandwich, the thought is - what's the dry dock.
There is a good "ratsuha": did not fulfill the receipt on time, did not build on time, - "went out" from the civil service.

[didra]

Well, write nonsense. And the aplomb of the director of a vegetable warehouse.

[Thrifty]

What about the sunken dock? Are they going to raise it at all, or "was not a bogatyr born in Russia capable of lifting a dry dock from the bottom of the sea"? Like it lies and let it, it does not bother anyone much. ...

[loki565]

What about the sunken dock? Are they going to raise it at all, or "was not a bogatyr born in Russia capable of lifting a dry dock from the bottom of the sea"? Like it lies and let it, it does not bother anyone much. ...

Why pick it up? the old rotten dock flowed through all the cracks, the pumps were constantly working, pumping out water, when the electricity and pumps were turned off, it immediately went to the bottom. Deformation of the old case, all power plants and cranes for replacement. It is faster and cheaper to build a new one than to raise and repair an old building.

[abrakadabre]

Why pick it up? the old rotten dock flowed through all the cracks, the pumps were constantly working, pumping out water, when the electricity and pumps were turned off, it immediately went to the bottom.

It is necessary to raise. It is absolutely necessary. For cutting into scrap metal. There is not a couple of kg of it, but more.

[loki565]

If it interferes with navigation, it will be raised, but because of the metal, it is not known what will come out more expensive, it is unlikely to be raised entirely, only to be cut into pieces.

[abrakadabre]

If it interferes with shipping, they will raise

The dock, of course, was not anchored in the fairway. However, in any case, littering the harbor with such a large object is directly harmful. We must clean up. Well, scrap metal is rather a bonus already.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

What about the sunken dock? Are they going to raise it at all, or "was not a bogatyr born in Russia capable of lifting a dry dock from the bottom of the sea"? Like it lies and let it, it does not bother anyone much. ...

Raise and restore, the same money as a new one to order.

[Holuay T.O]

The Chinese had to give the order, we have everything fake, the subcontractors have only one old tractor

[RMT]

And the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy is standing nearby and his schedule lag did not bother until the arrival of the Minister of Defense. Do I understand correctly?

[Niko]

Quote: RMT

And the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy is standing nearby and his schedule lag did not bother until the arrival of the Minister of Defense. Do I understand correctly?

They just noticed

[Overlock]

Quote: Niko

They just noticed

That the dock was drowned, yesterday was still

[Sancho_SP]

Are you really sure that Shoigu said this to one of them, and not to you and me? Etoges media.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: RMT

And the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy is standing nearby

AND? The work is carried out by the USC - they are asked from them, without accepting excuses. The Navy is here the main interest, which needs to dock the Kuznetsov as soon as possible. And Shoigu's arrival is connected incl. and with reports from the fleet on the state of affairs in construction.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: RMT

Do you understand correctly?

That's right! We watch meetings with the president every year - the picture is the same.

[aleksr2005]

I do not understand why we need this aircraft carrier in a single copy? We will not build any more anyway. They would have spent money on something else, more needed in the navy. A waste of finance ...

[Sancho_SP]

Well, why, the doc is a useful thing. There it is far from only possible to build / repair ego extension cords, but also quite useful ships.

[Niko]

Quote: aleksr2005

I do not understand why we need this aircraft carrier in a single copy? We will not build any more anyway. They would have spent money on something else, more needed in the navy. A waste of finance ...

So far, the question is not in the aircraft carrier, but in the dock. Can we try to build something? What if we learn?

[Brturin]

Quote: Niko

So far, the question is not in the aircraft carrier, but in the dock. Can we try to build something? What if we learn?

Let's try, learn ... just ... The Turkish shipyard Kyzey Star Shipyard won the tender for the construction of a floating dock for 5 billion rubles. for nuclear icebreakers of Atomflot .... The floating dock must be built within 29 months from the date of signing the contract. It is designed for dock repairs of nuclear icebreakers, including the new series Arktika LK-60 (project 22220) and nuclear technology support vessels. Dock characteristics: length - at least 220 m, width - about 48 m, pontoon height - about 6 m ... Meanwhile, Russian shipyards have repeatedly stated that the maximum price of the dock offered by Rosatom is too low. As a result, the 1st competition of Atomflot, in which only Russian shipyards could take part, did not take place. Nevertheless, as explained by the deputy head of Rosatom, head of the Northern Sea Route Directorate V. Ruksha, Rosatom did not plan to increase the contract price to 8-9 billion rubles, since it did not have these funds ...
https://neftegaz.ru/news/Suda-i-sudostroenie/674836-plavuchiy-dok-dlya-atomnykh-ledokolov-proekta-22220-postroit-turtsiya/

[Niko]

I understand you, and I even agree. But if “we” are not able to build in 8, then what someone builds in 5, then the concept of “learn” includes at least some ability to compete. Here you can also add general phrases such as: "this is the DEVELOPMENT of the economy" -Work

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Niko

But if “we” are not able to build in 8, then what someone builds in 5, then the concept of “learn” includes at least some ability to compete.

The ability to compete was shown in the construction of facilities and the preparation of Sochi-2014 and the 2018 World Cup ... It's just oh! reneged with Russian unheard-of generosity. They sit right there and puzzle over how it is possible to do something that costs several times cheaper under the direct patronage of the "guarantor". The Bilalov brothers, for sure, are sending greetings from the "harsh Kalmyk region" ...

[Niko]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Niko

But if “we” are not able to build in 8, then what someone builds in 5, then the concept of “learn” includes at least some ability to compete.

The ability to compete was shown in the construction of facilities and the preparation of Sochi-2014 and the 2018 World Cup ... It's just oh! reneged with Russian unheard-of generosity. They sit right there and puzzle over how it is possible to do something that costs several times cheaper under the direct patronage of the "guarantor". The Bilalov brothers, for sure, are sending greetings from the "harsh Kalmyk region" ...

Everyone knows this and no one is going to fight this (those who would have to fight on it make money). And this is the real reason why we cannot build (it does not matter WHAT to build aircraft carriers or that 160) I have a good friend, the owner of a good construction company in Germany (quality, norms, order, etc.) so he somehow tried to enter the Russian market ..... no chance ... kickbacks are such that there is no point in working, just stealing

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Niko

So he somehow tried to enter the Russian market ... without a chance ...

That's right!

[Okolotochny]

I have a good friend, the owner of a good construction company in Germany (quality, norms, order, etc.), so he somehow tried to enter the Russian market ..... no chance

Germany is a straight STANDARD. Inquire about the scandal with the German Minister of Health? Affiliated structures have received multimillion-dollar orders for the manufacture of masks. I understood that this is not corruption, this is simple "lobbying".

[your1970]

Quote: Okolotochny

I have a good friend, the owner of a good construction company in Germany (quality, norms, order, etc.), so he somehow tried to enter the Russian market ..... no chance

Germany is a straight STANDARD. Inquire about the scandal with the German Minister of Health? Affiliated structures have received multimillion-dollar orders for the manufacture of masks. I understood that this is not corruption, this is simple "lobbying".

there and Ursula put a pen to the budget of the Bundeswehr
Berlin Airport is a classic of the genre in Germany.

[Aleks tv]

"... Every accident has a name, surname and title ..."
Lazar Koganovich.

[Rostislav]

Now the chief repairman of "Kuzi" is imprisoned for embezzlement.

Embezzlement on military orders = undermining the country's defenses and they have long been equated with state treason with appropriate terms.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Rostislav

Embezzlement on military orders = undermining the country's defenses and they have long been equated with state treason with appropriate terms.

Unfortunately, it has been the scourge of Russia since time immemorial. They profited from defense orders during the rule of the empire tsars, and even during the Soviet period, during the period when Stalin was in power, there were businessmen who managed to "warm their hands" on the army.

Nikolai Maksimovich Pavlenko was a swindler, creator and commander of the mythical self-supporting UVSR-5 (Section of military construction work) in 1942-1951, operating on the territory of the Moldavian and Ukrainian SSR. The criminal took advantage of the wartime confusion and fraudulently, with the help of fake documents created a group hiding behind the legend of a secret military construction unit.

Shot by court verdict in 1955 year.

[Dude]

Quote: Insurgent

Quote: Rostislav

Embezzlement on military orders = undermining the country's defenses and they have long been equated with state treason with appropriate terms.

Unfortunately, it has been the scourge of Russia since time immemorial. They profited from defense orders during the rule of the empire tsars, and even during the Soviet period, during the period when Stalin was in power, there were businessmen who managed to "warm their hands" on the army.

Nikolai Maksimovich Pavlenko was a swindler, creator and commander of the mythical self-supporting UVSR-5 (Section of military construction work) in 1942-1951, operating on the territory of the Moldavian and Ukrainian SSR. The criminal took advantage of the wartime confusion and fraudulently, with the help of fake documents created a group hiding behind the legend of a secret military construction unit.

Shot by court verdict in 1955 year.

The most important thing is in your last sentence. Now there is nothing to be afraid of. Well, he will sit ... After some time, they will quietly release on parole ... And the great-grandchildren are already provided for, and ma-ah-ah-ahon house, squares per thousand, somewhere in Spain, is already waiting!
And, some, even become famous artists and poetesses, hold personal exhibitions in Repinka ... Life is a success!

[your1970]

Quote: Dude

The most important thing is in your last sentence. Now there is nothing to be afraid of. Well, he will sit ... After some time, they will quietly release on parole ... And the great-grandchildren are already provided for, and ma-ah-ah-ahon house, squares per thousand, somewhere in Spain, is already waiting!
And, some, even become famous artists and poetesses, hold personal exhibitions in Repinka ... Life is a success!

-in China they shoot 25 years ... Does not help.....

[Dude]

-in China they shoot for 25 years ... does not help ...

Are you sure about that? I think that without these enlightening executions, there would be more corrupt officials in the PRC. Crimes have always been, are and will be, but the inevitability of punishment, and even more so, the death penalty, disciplines well.

[your1970]

Quote: Dude

Crimes have always been, are and will be, but the inevitability of punishment, and even more so, the death penalty, disciplines well.

-no, alas ...
The commander of the fake military unit in the war perfectly understood that - they would catch - the tower - automatically according to the laws of wartime ... Nevertheless, he stole ...
Those who stole food in besieged Leningrad also understood perfectly well that the tower had no options. Nevertheless, they stole ...
On March 3, 1942, the USSR State Defense Committee adopted a secret resolution No. 1379ss "On the protection of the military property of the Red Army in wartime." According to him, for the theft of weapons, food, uniforms, equipment, fuel and other materials, as well as for his deliberate damage, the capital punishment was established - execution with confiscation of all the property of the criminal. For squandering military property, it was supposed to give at least five years of imprisonment.
The adoption of such a resolution speaks for itself - they dragged it godlessly ... otherwise the banal Criminal Code of 1926 would have been enough ...

And such examples - when death is behind the ear, but a person does not care - not even cars, but trains ...

[Dude]

The commander of the fake military unit in the war perfectly understood that - they would catch - the tower - automatically according to the laws of wartime

You should have at least learned a bit about the materiel before writing. What year was he shot? In 51, EMNIP - what are the laws of wartime? Anyway, the story is muddy there. I see you, too, write nonsense about the Blockade. And they steal and cheated, I said - there will always be crimes. But the inevitability of punishment does a good job of adjusting the brains.
If you follow your logic, then, in general, you do not need to plant or shoot - there will still be someone who decides to take the risk and break the law.

[your1970]

Quote: Dude

What year was he shot? In 51, EMNIP, - what are the laws of wartime?

That is, if in the war his tricks would crawl out - they gave him a chocolate bar ?? !!? Throughout the war, he was under threat - that scams would come out and shoot ..

Quote: Dude

About the Blockade you, I see, too, write nonsense. And they steal and cheated, I said - there will always be crimes

Nonsense? The fact that those who were caught for theft, shot, is this nonsense for you? This that - did not have???
There was no constant and inevitable threat of execution to thieves and bandits in the war ????????

Quote: Dude

If you follow your logic, then, in general, you do not need to plant or shoot - there will still be someone who decides to take the risk and break the law.

Where did you see that I am against executions ????

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Rostislav

they should be equated for a long time with state treason with appropriate terms.

For this it is necessary to equate to an exceptional measure ...

[Niko]

Quote: Rostislav

Now the chief repairman of "Kuzi" is imprisoned for embezzlement.

Embezzlement on military orders = undermining the country's defenses and they have long been equated with state treason with appropriate terms.

Now CHIEF and not only for repairs, and not only Kuzi is preparing for the next re-election

[V1er]

Iosif Vissarionovich knew the methods of how to motivate to do the work efficiently and on time.

Can learn from that experience?

[loki565]

Can learn from that experience?

Yeah, they'll write more books about the gulag)))

[Nestor Vlakhovski]

So what's the problem? Sell ​​the apartment, send the money to the construction of the dock, and take the pick in your hands and go to the construction site with a running march.
And then they took the fashion sitting on the couch on Comrade Stalin to pray ...

[Roman070280]

Can learn from that experience?

There is a problem ..
Stalin had a ONE country .. and we now have an OJSC ..
Stalin was really responsible for the people himself, and could demand from others !!

And Putin can only caw about oil / sugar prices, and be surprised at gasoline prices .. Do you smell the level ??

[Insurgent]

Quote: Roman070280

There is a problem ..
Stalin had a ONE country .. and we now have an OJSC ..

The "problem" is that Stalin himself created the ONE country with a powerful hand ...

[Roman070280]

Stalin himself created

And someone else, stole .. with friends ..))

[Nestor Vlakhovski]

Stalin had ONE country

Initially, Stalin received power in a country far from unity, centralization took place only later.
You, personally, in the sense of personally, would you like Vladimir Vladimirovich to follow the example of Joseph Vessarionovich and centralize modern Russia using Stalinist methods?

Stalin was really responsible for the people himself

And where is this responsibility?
The two largest famines in the country, genocide of some peoples, repression of both the military and secular intelligentsia, monstrous losses in the war, for which the country, which for 10 years created "guns instead of butter", was suddenly unprepared (!?!?) - where is there any responsibility for these official crimes? I'm not talking about a thousand other failures.

And Putin can only chuckle about the prices for butter / sugar, and be surprised at the prices for gasoline ..

In this case, "crowing" is the best thing that any normal president can do.
If God forbid the state interferes in price regulation again, it will inevitably end in another catastrophe.
Any state is the most (as far as possible) ineffective structure, with the means of production it must not be allowed into a cannon shot.

[Roman070280]

You, personally, in a personal sense, would like Vladimir Vladimirovich to follow the example of Joseph Vessarionovich and conduct centralization modern Russia by Stalinist methods?

What is meant by this concept ??
"Pull together" ?? In unity ??
Me with Usmanov ?? How??
Oh yes - the Stalinist method .. That is, to shoot Usmanov, with the confiscation of everything and everyone ??
I don’t even know straight .. And he will send the rest of the "friends" under the leadership of Matvienka to the Gulag to build a new branch of BAM ??
Probably, personally, I will be very against this .. Let me once again raise the retirement age ..

"to crow" - the best that can make any normal president.

Well, in fact, nothing else has been expected from ours for a long time.
Why does he even crow at all, it's amazing .. I would have sailed with my friends on a yacht in Spain .. even if the people would not have angered them with their idle talk, since nothing can be better anyway ..

[Nestor Vlakhovski]

Me with Usmanov ?? How??

It is known how. "Take away and divide everything", those who are not happy - for re-education in a labor camp.

That is, to shoot Usmanov, with the confiscation of everything and everyone ??

Not. Comrade Stalin began the redistribution of property from the very bottom - from the peasants and workers.
And Putin, according to your logic, should start with you. Not a single landowner died of hunger; the funnel came after them very later.

And he will send the rest of the "friends" under the leadership of Matvienka to the GULAG to build a new branch of the BAM ??

It depends on how intensively they lick the heels. If the floor of Russia is renamed in honor of His Serene Highness, they will receive orders. And if they start asking questions, then there are no irreplaceable people. Cadres are everything.

Probably, personally, I will be very against this ..

As required.

Why does he even crow at all, it's amazing

For talking heads, populism is their bread, and flapping their tongues in front of the camera is their main professional task.
And the real specialists, experts in their field, should deal directly with the economy or the army.

[Roman070280]

It is known how. "Take away and divide everything", those who are not happy - for re-education in a labor camp.

So after all, I correctly assumed about the Gulag ??)

Comrade Stalin began the redistribution of property with moonshine, with peasants and workers. AND Putin, according to your logic, you should start with you... Not a single landowner died of hunger; the funnel came after them very later.

Putin has already begun this ... with workers and pensioners ... And not a single Alisher has died of hunger yet ...
But the fact that even THEN the funnels will come for them - I strongly doubt it ..
Maybe, after all, Stalin's methods were different from those that Putin preaches ?? 20 years, after all, have passed .. and the vector is leaving more and more to the side ..

It depends on how intensively they lick the heels. If the floor of Russia is renamed in honor of His Serene Highness, they will receive orders. And if they start asking questions, then there are no irreplaceable people. Cadres are everything.

By the example of all the Tereshkovs, we see that they know how to lick heels .. So no one will send them to the new branch of BAM ..
No matter how much I personally would like "for Vladimir Vladimirovich to follow the example of Joseph Vessarionovich and centralize modern Russia using Stalinist methods."

As required.

I don’t know what you were going to prove, even if you don’t catch the fierce sarcasm ..

For talking heads, populism is their bread. Flicking your tongue on the camera is the main professional task.

A good characterization for our president came out ..

Actually, it is not clear what the dispute is about then, if I originally wrote this:

Stalin had a ONE country .. and we now have an OJSC ..
Stalin was really responsible for the people himself, and could demand from others !!

And Putin can only chuckle about the prices for butter / sugar, and be surprised at the prices for gasoline .. Do you smell the level ??

And the economy or the army should be dealt with by real professionals.

Should..
But another problem is that there are the same populists as the "talking head" ..
Starting from Golikova with Siluanov, ending with Nabiulina ..

[Nestor Vlakhovski]

So after all, I correctly assumed about the Gulag ??)

Where without him.

Putin has already started this ... with workers and pensioners ...

You are here doing chatter, raising a booze and not worrying too much about your position, which means that there are no Stalinist methods at all ...

And not a single Alisher has died of hunger yet. But the fact that even THEN the funnels will come for them - I strongly doubt

I mean, you are not at all opposed to Vladimir Vladimirovich immediately "tackling" the workers and peasants?
You just hate Alisher so much that you are ready to tear the last shirt, if only it would be even worse for them ... I don't understand this.

Maybe, after all, Stalin's methods were different from those

This is what we are already conducting a dialogue about. Rather, that you dream of Stalinist methods, and do not even mind being under their hand. If only neighbor Usmanov was even worse.

By the example of all the Tereshkovs, we see that they know how to lick heels .. So no one will send them to the new branch of BAM ..

As in the era of beautiful steelism. Again, are you not happy about something?

A good characterization for our president came out ..

Actually, it is not clear what the dispute is about then, if I originally wrote this:

The dispute is that my shirt is closer to my body, and you, like, the leader ... while you don't want to give your shirt to him, hoping to take it away from me.

[Roman070280]

You are here doing chatter, raising a booze and not worrying too much about your position. So there are no Stalinist methods at all ...

Why mix flies with cutlets ??
Nobody complained about the boltology ..
But about the workers, pensioners and swollen "landlords" - this is all there ..

I mean, you are not at all opposed to Vladimir Vladimirovich immediately "tackling" the workers and peasants?

We read again - Putin has already started this ... with workers and pensioners ..
Although I was against it !!

You hate Alisher so much that you are ready to tear your last shirt, if only they were even worse... I don't understand this.

You don’t understand at all .. if you think that any conventional "alishers" are now so bad, but I want them EVEN worse ..))

And you won't understand .. while you dodge the topic ..
And the theme was that Stalin sent funnels for the landowners (as they themselves put it), and Putin will never send for his friends .. Just a comparison .. And there is no need to switch to my shirt for some reason ..

This is what we are already conducting a dialogue about. Rather, that you dream of Stalinist methods, and do not even mind being under their hand.

We - workers / peasants / pensioners are already under distribution just ..
But then further - where Stalin's funnels came - for some reason, the roads diverge ..))

If only neighbor Usmanov it was even worse.

Is that not you - Usmanov ??)
And then what time there are already complaints - that he feels bad ..))

Actually, it was NOT ONLY "something there" .. but about centralization / cohesion / unity ..
Maybe for this it is necessary for pensioners to throw off Usmanov on a new yacht ?? (since you can't touch it in any way)

As in the era of beautiful steelism. Again, are you not happy about something?

In the era of Stalinism, those thieves who are now trying to rule us sat in other places altogether .. I don’t like it ..

The dispute is that my shirt is closer to my body, and you, like, the leader ...

Apparently you have beguiled me with someone ..
The shirts of the leader are not close to me ... like theirs yachts ..

while you don’t want to give your shirt to him,

Exactly .. I say - we also have to give them there ..))
There is so little stolen by them that we also need to take off our shirts ... but we - that bastard - don't want to ...

dreaming of taking her away from me

Alisher .. well, why are you so firing then ..))

[Elena Akinfieva]

But the handrails were painted before arrival.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Elena Akinfieva

But the handrails were painted before arrival.

And the corner from the bottom either did not have time, or the paint was not enough. Again, the contractor has failed, probably.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

In matters of construction, S.K. Shoigu can't hang noodles. As for the "bad faith" of the first contractor, the person concluding a contract must already be in jail. And there it will be seen who is "the most unscrupulous" ...

[kapitan281271]

And for what, to plant them, I myself am in the same position, the amounts are really different, just recently a winner in cleaning industrial premises appeared, you will dig, try to touch him immediately, a complaint to the FAS, everyone understood that the contractor, to put it mildly, is a problematic one, but to do nothing it is impossible. The result is the month of April, tons of paper, correspondence, claims, courts, and not a single cleaned room so far. And here is the same chief, of course lower in rank, he also tells me "EXPLANATIONS ARE NOT ACCEPTED", and on *** them my memoranda, letters, which should not be allowed to the work of this contractor. The system is poor, you just offend businessmen, and so on. And there most likely everything, as always, in an emergency mode, they decided to reconstruct the dock, as always, no project documentation, no funds, no approvals, everything will be on the principle of frying fish. So the priest crept up unnoticed.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Yeah .. You will not be envied ..) And you collect more dirt on the contractor .. Talk to his competitors. ) I think they will tell you a lot of interesting things, without "correspondence and courts")

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

then the person concluding a contract must already be in jail. And there it will be seen who is "the most unscrupulous"

It is somehow inconvenient to put Rakhmanov in prison, who received the Order of Nevsky a couple of years ago for his work for the good of the fatherland.

[room74]

3 shifts, 24/7, additional workers, this is a salary, expenses. The head of the enterprise wants more sleep ..... that's why the timing ........ It's simple. This is iron that is cooked, screwed, drilled, it is not a bio material that takes a certain time to form. BIOMAT.

[Roman070280]

All these explanations are not accepted

Well, they are not accepted - go from here .. walk around the market, maybe you can find something better ..

I think that's what the "contractors" thought ..

[Soldatov V.]

There is such an organization in Russia - Podvodrechstroy. This is a normal construction company that works on facilities on the water at a depth of one hundred meters and on the coastline. If it is entrusted with the modernization of the dry dock, it will do it in a month. One problem is far from sawing schemes.
I also think she will be able to solve the problem with the drowned floating dock. The only thing is to transfer the floating dock to the property of Podvodrestroy. All the same, Rosneft will not raise the floating dock - they have no mind for this and the technical means. You can charge the sappers with a dry dock - with the help of directed explosions, they will make a pool twice as large as they order in a week.

[BAI]

The modernization itself consists of the redevelopment of two adjacent drydocks

And then he will not fold at the seam?

[notingem]

Photo in the style of ancient Rome: Delinquent dry dock construction managers for "Admiral Kuznetsov" are fed to sharks

[Tavrik]

Quote: paul3390

A dozen of those who excelled would be shot and shown on TV, as in China, for example.

To shoot "like in China", you need to have a lump at the helm. party, as in China.

[Aleksandr97]

There was a criminal liability in the USSR for disrupting the supply of defense products !!! It makes sense to return it for the state defense order. Responsibility will be added, the number of those who want to cut budget money will thin out.

[Bshkaus]

No dock, no modernization, no modernization, no aircraft carrier. With such carelessness, we are our own enemies without any NATO

[Niko]

"Soon the emperor will be here: the object must be ready on time .... you let me down ... but this is the last time ... shhhhhhhhhhh."

[Zug]

Make a new domino to the deceased

[Hikaro]

The dock is built not by managers and generals, but by workers of different specialties and qualifications !! And for the dock to be delivered on time, it is not very much needed! 1. Competent and financially motivated workforce. 2 Competent and also motivated, but with clear and contracted responsibility, the engineering staff. 3 And the general leadership of the general responsible chief, according to a clearly developed plan and reporting personally to the Minister of Defense. For failure to meet the deadline, personal responsibility with deprivation of wages! And that's enough! Qualification, responsibility, and monetary motivation and everything will be on time!

[Kelwin]

By demolishing the partition. Uh-huh. One is 187m, the other is 236m. Total 335m. From a demolished partition, 99m can easily be made. Both are 22m on the bottom, but when intercourse it will be 60m. Here it is a little more difficult, it is necessary to warm it up with a blowtorch, the "stern" was blown apart. What nonsense?)

[Edvid]

The largest dock in Russia has been built and is operational. This is the Zvezda plant in Bolshoy Kamen. The dock is 485 meters long and 114 meters wide. Another thing is that "Kuznetsov" cannot reach him, so you have to build a personal ...

[Basarev]

He can be as dissatisfied as he wants, but when there is not enough personnel, finances, and the construction machines are simply old and the materials are of poor quality, then construction cannot be fast. And if you hurry - after a couple of calls, the dock will collapse, with the risk of dragging our last aircraft carrier behind you.

[kriten]

Apparently, there is no responsibility today. Didn't do it on time - they scolded and that's all. Really understand the reasons. Maybe they just couldn't share the stolen grandmothers for a long time? Beria ay .... Lawrence is not there and there is no one to follow.