Ukrainian media: Ukrainian special services have obtained information that the DPR is going to be asked to join Russia

Ukrainian media claim that "through sources" they allegedly became aware of the intentions of the Donetsk People's Republic to send an appeal to President Vladimir Putin. The Ukrainian media indicates that the DPR authorities are allegedly going to ask the head of the Russian Federation in their appeal to accept the republic into Russia. In particular, the Ukrainian resource Zn.ua writes about this.

According to this resource, "there are two other options that are being considered in Donetsk." They consist in the following: to carry out a request for Russian military assistance or recognition of the independence of the DPR with the subsequent conclusion of a treaty of friendship with Moscow.

The Ukrainian newspaper claims that under all three versions of the appeals "there is a personal signature of Denis Pushilin," and that all three appeals "begin the same way - with words of gratitude to Russia and Putin personally."

Ukrainian media:

These documents were obtained by the Ukrainian special services.

This very publication in the Ukrainian press, against the background of the escalation of the situation in the Donbass, looks to a greater extent as a provocation - with the aim of once again drawing the attention of its overseas and European "partners" to the situation.

At the moment, there have been no official comments on the Ukrainian publication from the officials of the Donetsk People's Republic. If, of course, there really is something to comment on ...

Comments

[Insurgent]

Ukrainian media claim that "through sources" they allegedly became aware of the intentions of the Donetsk People's Republic to send an appeal to President Vladimir Putin.

Here too ... "Revelation" ... What to say

If so, then - the time has come, if not, then in any case, we will take such a step later ...

Goodbye, Ukraine!

[Uncle lee]

accept the republic into Russia

This has been known since the age of 14 ...

[venik]

Quote: Uncle Lee

accept the republic into Russia

This has been known since the age of 14 ...

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They took it off the tongue! I just wanted to write: "These documents were obtained by the Ukrainian special services..... "- Garneau lads work - they worked, one might say in the sweat of" face ", daily" risking their own skin "and still uncovered...... "open secret"! Classwork! "Aerobatics" of illegal reconnaissance!

[210ox]

And the same "open secret" is Russia's refusal. To my great regret.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Insurgent

If so, then - the time has come, if not, then in any case, we will take such a step later ...

How did they "get" it? Photographed on the table? The evidence has triumphed ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

How did they "get" it? Photographed on the table?

Hard work obtained - "Deep in the Donetsk mines"

[paul3390]

For now, they will not accept it. And they don't. If only because it is not clear in what boundaries to accept or recognize. In nonesh stripped down? Leaving the occupied parts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions for Tsegabonia is somehow stupid, you must agree. And taking it with our territorial claims known in advance is not the best step .. So IMHO - until they reach the administrative boundaries of the regions - nothing official will be.

[Insurgent]

Quote: paul3390

For now, they will not accept it. And they don't.

And even so.

Anyway, such an appeal, "lying on Putin's table", and which at any time can be considered and approved - for the Outskirts SIGNAL ... And not only for her.

[figwam]

Quote: Insurgent

which can be considered and approved at any time - for the SIGNAL Outskirts

If the Bandera members go on the attack, the appeal will be approved and the introduction of troops will begin, followed by distribution throughout the entire outskirts in order to destroy the enemy's lair.

[Insurgent]

Quote: figvam

If Bandera go to the attack

It seems that the Banderlog, whipping up hysteria around their determination to end the Donbass once and for all, have overshadowed themselves.

Against the background of this high, the level of desertion in the Armed Forces of Ukraine went off scale.

Fear of waiting for war exceeded "svidomist"...

“The largest number of deserters in the Vostok OTG is 183 militants, the largest number is in the 36th Marine Brigade, which occupies positions in the Mariupol direction. 44 Marines fled there. However, the first place in terms of the number of fugitives is occupied by the 10th brigade, in which a unit of 52 militants left without permission. "

“It is important that 18% of deserters are officers. One of the last to escape was Lieutenant Bogdanovich, the platoon commander of the motorized infantry battalion of the 72nd Ombr, who, having left the unit's location to receive a parcel at the post office in Avdiivka, left the JOS zone, informing his colleagues that preserving his own life and the need to take care of his mother in the Sumy region is more important than protecting the country from imaginary external threats "

[Maikcg]

If they go on the attack, there will be no destruction of the enemy's lair, because it is not profitable at this stage. So a couple of boilers and Minsk4.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: figvam

If Bandera will go attack, the appeal will be approved and will begin the introduction of troops with subsequent distribution throughout the outskirts in order to destroy the enemy's lair.

On ?! and as far as Washington ... ?! Ahhh smh ?!

[farm2009]

I personally do not see any problems to accept it as it is, and to officially present territorial claims to Ukraine. The DPR and LPR will not be able to reach their borders, the superiority in forces is too great.

[Insurgent]

Quote: farm2009

The DPR and LPR will not be able to reach their borders, the superiority in forces is too great.

With God's help, we can!

Native land protected by God.

[Alex777]

Native land protected by God.

Truly so!

[paul3390]

And no one says that they should go to the borders exclusively on their own ..

I still think that we cannot indulge in territorial claims yet. And so they are glorified by fierce aggressors all over the world. And we have to fight for the minds of people, even in the West. It is one thing to recognize or accept some kind of state education in the established administrative borders. Here you can appeal, and besides, the Kosovo precedent. Westerners were then warned that they were doing it in vain. And it's quite another to chop off some of it and officially admit that we want more.

Again from Kosovo - they were also recognized within the borders of the former autonomy, although they claim much more. And we recognized Ossetia and Abkhazia in their former form. Without any additions. So that...

[Insurgent]

Quote: paul3390

I still think that we cannot indulge in territorial claims yet.

Who is talking about "territorial claims"?

You will not hear this in the statements of the "official Kremlin", but it is openly declared about the intentions to protect the citizens of the Russian Federation ...

[paul3390]

Well I said - there are three choices. Either recognize the LDNR in its current form, leaving two-thirds of the dill, or recognize it in its original state. But then - we thereby declare that we will not stop there. With all that it implies .. The third is to go to the admin border and recognize it as a whole. Which one do you prefer?

[farm2009]

What do you propose to do? If something in the DPR and LPR is not a resort at all, people suffer and die, the curfew is already 7 years old, and there is no light. Imagine yourself in their place.

[paul3390]

And this is not with you, my dear, 7 years ago, I was drinking out of my throat at a rally for Donbass in a gateway near Kazansky at a Hennessy in a gateway near Kazansky? Not? Why are we then suddenly on "you"?

Well, come on, tear your vest on yourself. You might think that something will radically change from your screams.

What I personally propose is not important. For nobody asks me. I would have caught up with the north wind and brought ukrovoinstvo all the way to the Dnieper. And then - I would recognize everything liberated in their admin. Borders. But this is me personally.

And since this does not happen, then we operate with what we have. And in the current state, recognizing or joining the LPR is not the smartest step. The reasons - I have already stated above. Please deign to read before answering, unless, of course, when teaching literacy, not only write, but also read scientists ..

[farm2009]

Okay. And you didn’t swell by such a vyser to give me out here.

And this is not with you, my dear, 7 years ago, I was drinking out of my throat at a rally for Donbass in a gateway near Kazansky at a Hennessy in a gateway near Kazansky? Please deign to read before answering, unless, of course, when teaching literacy, not only write, but also read scientists ..

We didn't drink at Kazansky's, and I don't tear my vest on myself. It's just that we have an insoluble situation, no matter how long we wait 5, 10, 20 years, Ukraine will never give up Donbass, and that now the LDNR will be forever in this state?

[paul3390]

And you didn’t swell by such a vyser to give me out here.

Yes, I am deeply and frankly to the pager for your opinion about my words. For opinion is important only from a person you respect. And not all boorish bawlers.

[nPuBaTuP]

But I think that our authorities will have enough siska to crumple ...
It is clear that in the outskirts, narrow-minded people are sitting at the helm ..... but we have enough adequate.
Why only there can the Kuban and Don (not rivers) declare their territory ...
We also need to put forward our territorial claims .... And at the state level ..... Let at least the deputy deputy of some word say and the whole south of Sumeria will quake ... There are many Russians and everyone wants to go home ...

[stalki]

For now, they will not accept it. And they don't. If only because it is not clear in what boundaries to accept or recognize. In nonesh stripped down? Leaving the occupied parts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions for Tsegabonia is somehow stupid, you must agree, and taking it with our territorial claims known in advance is not the best step.

We must take it, we'll take the rest later

[210ox]

How can they get out? They are waiting for the collapse of this "Somalia Behind the Wicket".? It will not happen. With our help? Stopudovo that the Kremlin will not agree to this.

[smart ass]

The DNR is needed by the Russian Federation as a buffer between. Nobody will take him anywhere

[Insurgent]

Quote: Clever man

The DNR is needed by the Russian Federation as a buffer between.

You are such a "Clever", Vasya ...

What is the "buffer" , between "what and what" ?

Take a look at the map for a start which section of the Russian-Ukrainian border, and in the future the "Russian-NATO" border we block, and how much remains "bare" ...

What is the use of a "buffer", when in the future the Americans will drag their strike systems and missile defense systems to the outskirts, place full-fledged bases?

[smart ass]

Are you proposing to seize Ukraine? And then they also have Poland on strike systems, and then Germany? Logic - steel

[Thrifty]

It is high time to recognize the republics, and to take them into the structure of Russia, with the help in the return of theirs occupied by "Ukrainian" territories! !!

[Maz]

Yes there at least contact, at least no, why does Russia need the cut 18000 square kilometers, if we can take all 600 square kilometers for ourselves? even though it's true, at least not

[210ox]

This we "can" here. Some on the couch, some on the bed. But THERE they cannot (they do not want, they are afraid of complications, it will not go according to plan, heavy losses, shots in the back, terrorism, etc.). Although I am personally for the power option. But nothing depends on our opinion. Kakaly are taught by Georgian experience, and enjoy worldwide support

[rotmistr60]

Ukrainian special services mined information ...

Yes, the Ukrainian special services ... Probably with such difficulty they "mined" what lies on the surface and has been discussed since 2014, that they themselves were surprised at such a discovery. But the main thing is how it is necessary to present the Punchinel's secret to the Ukrainian man in the street and "friends of Ukraine".

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: rotmistr60

Oh yes, the Ukrainian special services ...

And seven years have not passed ...

[Ryaruav]

It is high time to decide with Donbass

[Insurgent]

Quote: Ryaruav

It is high time to decide with Donbass

We are what ... For you, if we present a certain problem, it is partly a military one in terms of integration, and all the related problems (from economic to foreign policy).

[Ryaruav]

but with the outskirts as a whole, I think we are already late, there remains only a tough decision through the situation in Donbass

[Insurgent]

Quote: Ryaruav

but with the outskirts as a whole, I think we are already late, there remains only a tough decision through the situation in Donbass

"Never say never"" ("Never Say Never Again")

[Bolt cutter]

"Never Say Never Again"

Expect the unexpected

[Runoway]

It is high time to decide with Donbass

Until the joint venture-2 is allowed no connection will be made !!!! Otherwise, the United States will be declared aggressors and invaders, and no matter how much Merkel wants gas, she will have to abandon the project.
First money, and then people, priorities are clear and understandable.
Plus Donbass is now an afshore zone, which is interesting to many

[Xnumx vis]

How many rumors strike our ears
How much gossip eats away like a moth! How many rumors amaze our ears
How much gossip erodes, like a moth!
Soon the baths will all be closed
everywhere,
Forever and ever - and this information is correct ! But seriously, I was more serious about ESSbu .. And here they opened it in secret, revealed to everyone a well-known secret ..... How can we not remember our Viktor Chernomyrdin .... You have to think what to understand.

[Adimius38]

They don't mind since 2014. In the courtyard of 2021 and the Ukrainian media only found out about this

[wolf46]

Military and foreign policy problems are a priori inevitable .. In my opinion, it is better to officially invest money in the region of the Russian Federation (Crimea) than shadow flows into the unrecognized republic (Abkhazia). The latter exists thanks to the help of Russia, but behaves defiantly (attacks on Russians, attacks on businesses, etc.).

[prior]

Knowing the reliability of information from the Ukrainian special services, I would like to clarify:
Is Babchenko alive? still alive? alive again? or while he is alive?

[oldzek]

although I am a man, I will answer in a woman's way: no, probably. and understand as you want.

[xorek]

SBU directly show miracles of discernment .. How much interestingly did the informants pay? I hope everyone was awarded ..
But seriously, in the Donbass (economy, etc.) everything has long been integrated under Russia and the majority of the citizens of the Russian Federation are there.

[Soldatov V.]

We must clearly understand, not to ask to be a part of Russia, but to RESTORE the territorial integrity of Russia. It's time to gather under one roof, in one house.

[Prisoner]

Yes, SHO are you talking about ?! How long have you got it?

[dgonni]

Well make a link to such a site. It's like reading the writing on a fence.

[aslanismaili611]

You cannot be at enmity with all your neighbors. This is not reasonable. I consider the policy of the government of Mr Putin towards neighboring states to be deeply mistaken. Especially in relation to the Slavic, fraternal Ukraine. You will not be too sweet. Note! all the republics of the former union go further away from Russia, no matter where! And with whom will Russia stay? with Armenia and Belarus ?! Without Ukraine, it is impossible to restore the Great Union! To recover, obviously, Russia itself needs to change. On this score, there can be no other opinion. Russia must be made successful and attractive. This is the front on which one must patiently "fight". And sooner or later, many will prefer to return to their usual orbit. And this is natural. This is the law of the universe!

[hydro]

You will not be forcibly sweet, but what can you say about Azov and other virtuous fellows? They want peace, no! Well, here we are, but what about attractiveness, look how many Ukrainians came to Russia in 2014 away from the war!

[aslanismaili611]

In any society, you can meet and arm not only good-natured people, even good-natured ones. This is how the whole Army is in Poland. In my opinion, it is necessary to analyze the reasons for the collapse of the USSR, and not to fight with its consequences, this already gives a negative result. I personally saw the main reason in the initially False Idea. And in the methods of government. It also conceals the danger of the collapse of Russia itself. Neighbors and not neighbors have nothing to do with it.

[hydro]

And I see external factors that noticeably affect both Ukraine and Russia. And whatever the policy and management - the external factor can influence the internal

[Der Spiegel]

I believe that the LDNR in the current situation is more likely a "bargaining chip" in the confrontation and misunderstanding of the recalcitrant Little Russia and offended mother Russia. So there is no reason to count on any constructive changes in the status of the LDNR. On the one hand, this is an increase in sanctions and a burden in the form of increased costs, and on the other hand, there is its own Catalonia in Spain, but much more reactionary. In other words, these people are abandoned and not needed by anyone. The land, as they say in Ukraine, is Zanepadae. Alas...

[Vlad Pervovich]

I think Donbass never hid it ...)))

[yfast]

Quote: Sergej1972

The main thing is that Putin is scolded. For example, I go to the "comments" section and read 15-20 user comments to understand what his views are, where is he from, if he is not a troll.)

It is best to wear a condom before writing a comment, it is even safer. Let's praise Putin together, because he was a really good man. As my wife divorced, so on an inclined.

[Herman 4223]

Why was the question of joining Russia not included when people voted in a referendum?
After all, this would give a legal basis for the introduction of the armed forces of Russia, even then in the fourteenth year.