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Japan published "documents" on negotiations with Brezhnev on the conclusion of a peace treaty

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Japan continues to seek ways to establish sovereignty over the South Kuril Islands. From time to time, publications appear in the Japanese press with further "evidence", allegedly pointing to the Japanese identity of the islands.


The Japanese television channel NHK "revealed" the contents of some papers that allegedly came into its possession from the state archive of Russia. They argue that under Soviet Secretary General Brezhnev, the USSR and Japan discussed three options for concluding a peace treaty between the countries.

The TV channel claims that in 1973 the USSR, as part of the conclusion of a peace treaty with Japan, considered three options for solving the problem of the "Northern Territories". According to the first, it was about the transfer of the island of Shikotan and some nearby islands of the Lesser Kuril ridge (Khibomai). The second option involved allowing Japanese fishermen to fish in some areas for a fee, visiting the ports of the islands of Kunashir and Iturup, and Soviet ships to the ports of Hokkaido. In addition, the Japanese were allowed to visit the graves of their ancestors in three regions of the southern Kuriles. The third option did not touch upon the territorial problem at all. Good neighborly relations were taken as a basis.

In 1973, Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka did indeed negotiate in Moscow, but the Soviet side never touched on the territorial issue in all four rounds of negotiations.

For our part, we note that publications of this kind periodically appear in the Japanese press. In the spring of last year, the Russian Foreign Ministry called the statement of the Japanese newspaper Asahi that in October 1973 Leonid Brezhnev, General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, allegedly admitted during negotiations with Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka that there are some unresolved issues between the USSR and Japan, including "the question of the southern part of the Kuril Islands".

Russian diplomats said it was "stuffing pseudo-sanction material" designed to "bolster the Japanese position" in the negotiations on a peace treaty.

The Russian Foreign Ministry emphasized that Russia's sovereignty over the Kuril Islands is undeniable and not discussed, and in order to conclude a peace treaty, the Japanese authorities must fully recognize the results of World War II.
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  1. WHAT IS
    WHAT IS April 10 2021 11: 28
    +23
    Soviet side for all four rounds of negotiations never did not touch on the territorial issue

    The Kuril Islands are ours.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 10 2021 11: 46
      +13
      the Japanese were allowed to visit the graves of their ancestors in three regions of the southern Kuriles.
      Which they still do ...
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb April 10 2021 12: 38
        +6
        The Japs whistle like Trotsky ... They are not ashamed ...
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana April 10 2021 13: 23
          +10
          Japan has not even repented before its neighbors for its war crimes in WWII, but wants from Russia / the USSR some kind of revision of its results and Russia's donation to Japan of the Japanese lost in the war and the territories they had previously seized from the Republic of Ingushetia!

          The Japanese Nazi death factory - "Detachment 731" - for the creation of biological and chemical weapons, the Japanese will never be forgiven!
          1. NIKN
            NIKN April 10 2021 14: 56
            +5
            "Documents" published in Japan on negotiations with Brezhnev on the conclusion of a peace treaty
            Well, we probably need to raise Stalin's diaries on this issue.
      2. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 10 2021 12: 57
        +3
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        the Japanese were allowed to visit the graves of their ancestors in three regions of the southern Kuriles.
        Which they still do ...

        I also did not stop visiting the Russian cemetery in Nagasak (1998), a working trip (oil industry), I wanted to Honshu (Russian graves) Port Arthur, no luck.
    2. xorek
      xorek April 10 2021 12: 34
      +8
      Quote: WHAT IS
      The Kuril Islands are ours.

      The samurai do not understand, the amers are hammering them in their ears .. Let them whine, otherwise we will incite China on them .. That they were doing Hitler with the Chinese and Koreans, just an angel .. Well, they will bring it, after all, with their whining, we will give the archives to the Chinese and EVERYTHING. .Such lawsuits will tell you that everyone will flee to Australia. angry
    3. knn54
      knn54 April 10 2021 12: 50
      +8
      - the content of some papers that allegedly came into his possession from the state archive of Russia.
      Is it not from the folder where "some documents" about Katyn lay?
      1. Machito
        Machito April 10 2021 13: 16
        +5
        According to the land description (maps) compiled under Catherine the Second - Hokkaido-Russian Land, inhabited by the Ainu people, who still live on Sakhalin. The Japanese captured Hokkaido from Russia much later and genocidal the local Ainu. It is high time the Russian Foreign Ministry, on the basis of historical documents, to present territorial claims against Japan on the island of Hokkaido and claims for the illegal occupation and use of the Russian Land and the genocide of the Russian Ainu people.
        Japan has been attacking Russia for centuries, seizing our lands. Still, we didn’t kill the Japs in WWII. They completely misled the coast.
    4. aslanismaili611
      aslanismaili611 April 10 2021 13: 24
      -10%
      Ours, not ours, what's the difference. The area would be many times more important to Russia ... but there is very little population there. A125 years ago, Nicholas 2 decided to try his military luck in this widespread region, because before him, in 1856, his predecessor, too, somehow tried to take up the Golden Horn of abundance - Istanbul, but received an oar hit from the Turks, Franks and the British on his broad bald head, he had to heroically sink your own fleet and yield. Nicholas 2 started from the railway to ... Golden Horn-Vladivostok. East Istanbul. The Russians did not have to sink their own fleet again, for the Japanese did not allow them to perform the same heroic feat again. Does the United States need two enemies in the face of two superpowers? Not. Absolutely. China in the foreseeable future will turn its greedy gaze on this region. Beijing will politely ask for a start to return 1 km 000 to its native Chinese harbor, and then .. Who is Russia's potential ally? Obviously the USA! But in the Kremlin and on Smolenskaya Square they think differently. Get ready to open the Kingstones ?!
      1. nemez
        nemez April 10 2021 14: 44
        +10
        Sit in your Turkestan, and lick Erdogan's ass. Russia has not yet been conquered. And the same Turkey exists thanks to Russia.
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        2. aslanismaili611
          aslanismaili611 April 10 2021 16: 34
          -5
          German, of whom will you be? and where are you writing from? sometimes pull your head out, poor man. Firshtein?
    5. VORON538
      VORON538 April 10 2021 13: 48
      +3
      And if their rulers of Japan want to discuss this topic with Khrushchev himself, then let them make themselves hara-kiri or sepuku, as they call it, and THERE discuss all the nuances with him! lol
    6. lucul
      lucul April 10 2021 13: 49
      0
      The Kuril Islands are ours.

      Indeed, the Japanese will try to take the Kuril Islands by force - we will take away Hokaido, if they behave badly - we can take Honshu too.
  2. Clear
    Clear April 10 2021 11: 29
    +8
    In 1973, Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka did indeed negotiate in Moscow, but the Soviet side never touched on the territorial issue in all four rounds of negotiations.
    I remembered a case when they decided to fire one employee, but there was no reason, and the personnel officer invited him to bring a certificate from a mental hospital. Then the employee began to be fired for being connected with the psychiatric hospital.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 10 2021 11: 47
      +15
      Japanese authorities need to fully recognize the outcome of World War II.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter April 10 2021 12: 21
        +3
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        the Japanese authorities need to recognize the results of World War II in full

        Isn't Hokkaido the last island of the South Kuriles? What do our geologists say there? laughing Isn't it time to raise the question of its ownership?
        1. xorek
          xorek April 10 2021 12: 38
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Isn't Hokkaido the last island of the South Kuriles?

          Our marines in 1945 also thought so and had already gotten up and waited for the order to storm Tokyo .. But Stalin changed his mind, enough for us and Europe for now .. But in vain!
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 April 10 2021 23: 08
            0
            So he put the brakes on in gayrope, without completing the program of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat there. He was a very rational and practical communist. With not Comrade Trotsky, he was not on his way. To know for sure that more than one vigorous mattress is not available, it was possible to redeem them in a solarium. Although one, for the eyes, Moscow would have had enough, and Vissarionich loved people and could not allow this. That we after 48 years and backfired. As a fence is not built, it seeps because it is nearby and not everyone was passed over.
    2. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov April 10 2021 13: 06
      -2
      Quote: Clear
      In 1973, Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka did indeed negotiate in Moscow, but the Soviet side never touched on the territorial issue in all four rounds of negotiations.
      I remembered a case when they decided to fire one employee, but there was no reason, and the personnel officer invited him to bring a certificate from a mental hospital. Then the employee began to be fired for being connected with the psychiatric hospital.

      I do not like such phrases, what I wanted to say? What for your comment?
      1. Clear
        Clear April 10 2021 17: 37
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Korotkov
        Quote: Clear
        In 1973, Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka did indeed negotiate in Moscow, but the Soviet side never touched on the territorial issue in all four rounds of negotiations.
        I remembered a case when they decided to fire one employee, but there was no reason, and the personnel officer invited him to bring a certificate from a mental hospital. Then the employee began to be fired for being connected with the psychiatric hospital.

        I do not like such phrases, what I wanted to say? What for your comment?

        Okay. Second try.
        Here is an analogy, as Lexus and Vovan played the PACE special rapporteur Jacques Mayor on the Navalny case. (today's infa)
        “I have to go to Russia. Perhaps they will let me go there. and launch a joint mechanism! If we want to launch a joint mechanism, then we need to prepare well ", - Jacques Maire told the prankers.

        If they don't understand anything now, well then really request
        Quote: Andrey Korotkov
        What for your comment?
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 April 10 2021 11: 55
    +6
    There is no topic for discussion.
  4. prior
    prior April 10 2021 12: 00
    +5
    Even if something was discussed with Brezhnev, questions are for Brezhnev. yes
    1. Zug
      Zug April 10 2021 12: 15
      +6
      Molotov also sent the Finns to Peter 1 on the issues of the territories of the former Swedish possessions
    2. YOUR
      YOUR April 10 2021 13: 32
      +1
      According to the first, it was about the transfer of the island of Shikotan and some nearby islands of the Lesser Kuril ridge (Khibomai). The second option involved allowing Japanese fishermen to fish in some areas for a fee, visiting the ports of the islands of Kunashir and Iturup, and Soviet ships to the ports of Hokkaido.

      And so it was. And in support of the treaty, the 18th machine-gun and artillery division was deployed just on Shikotan and Kunashir. True, Serdyukov considerably thinned it out. Now they have partially restored, a couple of regiments of the 46th and 49th remained. Just on these islands. I really hope that the number and the main technical support will be brought to the level of 1978.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat April 10 2021 17: 16
        +1
        It is unlikely to be brought to the level of 1978. Rather, the 46th and 49th missile and artillery regiments of the coastal defense will remain so. smile
        1. YOUR
          YOUR April 11 2021 05: 28
          0
          It would be nice if only missile and artillery and even coastal defense, but ..... only machine-gun and artillery, and even half the composition of a little more than a battalion.
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat April 11 2021 09: 07
            +1
            I dream))) In my opinion, 2 rocket and artillery regiments are better than one machine gun and artillery division. hi
      2. standan
        standan April 10 2021 18: 28
        0
        So it was
        Did you personally attend this?
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 10 2021 12: 01
    +9
    the Japanese authorities need to recognize the results of World War II in full
    How can a country that is part of the Berlin-Rome-Tokyo axis and was defeated in 2 MV, claim any territory that has ceded to the winner's country? But today, not only Japan, but also some other satellites of the United States does not want to recognize the results of 2 MV, moreover, they are trying to distort them and extract any dividends for themselves. We have been living since 1945 without a peace treaty with Japan, and I hope we will continue to live. Well, let the Japanese bawl, hope and wait for something that they will not wait for.
  6. sabakina
    sabakina April 10 2021 12: 03
    +10
    Japan published "documents" on negotiations with Brezhnev on the conclusion of a peace treaty
    Excuse me, Yapas, but will you publish documents on the negotiations of Generalissimo JV Stalin on the conclusion of a peace treaty?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 10 2021 12: 50
      +5
      JV Stalin did not negotiate with them ... But he brought in the troops! But Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others were rustling on this topic ... L.I. Brezhnev is a front-line soldier, he did not give up his lands.
    2. venik
      venik April 10 2021 12: 57
      +3
      Quote: sabakina
      Excuse me, Yapas, but will you publish documents on the negotiations of Generalissimo JV Stalin on the conclusion of a peace treaty?

      ========
      good Signed complete and unconditional surrender: now pray to your japanese godmotherthat Hokkaido was not taken away! drinks
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 10 2021 13: 00
        +7
        This photo should be printed in all Japanese newspapers as a reminder!
  7. HAM
    HAM April 10 2021 12: 07
    +8
    It seems that in medicine this is called phantom pain, when some limb was cut off and it is not, but the pain remains ... nothing, they will cry ... less pee ...
  8. URAL72
    URAL72 April 10 2021 12: 19
    +8
    Well, I don't see any need for this peace treaty at all. What will change? Yapi will close the American bases? Not. Will the sanctions be lifted, will they buy our weapons, conduct joint exercises and operations? Not. Technology thrown in? Not. For some reason, it is we who must pay for this contract, not us. There is no benefit, there is no contract. Point.
  9. Alien From
    Alien From April 10 2021 12: 28
    +5
    Who among the Japs has not resigned can make himself hara-kiri.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 10 2021 12: 55
      +4
      Fujiyama was covered by fog
      The geisha drank sake
      Sakura bloomed
      Fukushima exploded
      And the samurai made hara-kiri ...

      This is a classic tanka ... repeat
  10. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 April 10 2021 12: 56
    +4
    When the dog does not fuck, she either howls or licks the scrotum. These licked from the 45th and will continue to lick, and howl every year, and it seems to have got used to it even in Japan.
  11. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan April 10 2021 12: 58
    +1
    Kuril Islands - Russian land !!!

    And the peace treaty with Japan is not worth the paper on which it will be signed, this is just a formality. When they sense that they can attack us and win, they will do it with or without a peace treaty and will seize both Sakhalin and part of the Far East.
  12. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk April 10 2021 13: 06
    +3
    There the question is more in the passage to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. If you give it up, then military ships of other countries will be able to enter it.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 10 2021 16: 15
      0
      Not quite so, the passage exists without it, the Bussol Strait.
  13. rusich
    rusich April 10 2021 13: 14
    +4
    The Kuriles are OUR. And no questions about this topic
  14. Alexander Betonkin
    Alexander Betonkin April 10 2021 14: 01
    +7
    Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov silently opened the diplomat, put on the table a can of horseradish, ears cut off from a toy donkey, a leaf of a fig palm tree, a XXL dildo, lit a cigarette and with a polite smile greeted the head of the Japanese delegation that had arrived for negotiations on the Kuril Islands ...
    The translator from Japanese was late, Lavrov improvised as best he could.
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 10 2021 14: 08
    +2
    Why don't we publish the "documents" of the negotiations between Alexander III and Mutsuhito on the transfer of the whole of Japan to the Russian Empire? laughing
  16. dimy44
    dimy44 April 10 2021 14: 17
    +2
    It is unclear what they are counting on. They have only one option - to take it by force. Not? Then FSO.
  17. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 April 10 2021 14: 42
    +3
    A question to the supporters of the transfer of the four southern islands of the Kuril ridge:
    Do you really think that the Japanese on the territory of these islands will develop infrastructure and build modern cities?
    Old-timers and archives can tell how the Japanese developed the "annexed territories" of Sakhalin (southern), the Kuril Islands up to the Kamchatka Cape Lopatka.
    For example, not everyone knows that almost before WWII the Japanese had concessions on the coast of Kamchatka, caught fish, processed them, and sent them to Japan. They fished to the last tail, preventing the fish from passing to the upper reaches of the rivers for spawning grounds.
    It was also on Sakhalin, coal was mined, oil was pumped, sent to Japan.
    All territories north of Hokkaido (Nihon) are a source of raw materials for the Japanese.
  18. Jaromir
    Jaromir April 10 2021 16: 08
    +3
    The Japanese television channel NHK "revealed" the contents of some papers that allegedly came into its possession from the state archive of Russia

    Another fake. The Japanese decided to use Western technologies to spread lies.
  19. Jaromir
    Jaromir April 10 2021 16: 11
    +5
    to conclude a peace treaty

    Why is it needed? I don't see the need for it at all.
  20. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 10 2021 17: 06
    0
    How nice it would be to know that the Russian Foreign Ministry informed the Yap that their claims to the Kuriles are groundless, the results of the war cancel out any agreements and any attempt by the Yap to declare the Kuriles their own will be regarded as a hostile step by the state trying to challenge the decisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal and denying the results of World War II ...
  21. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter April 10 2021 18: 40
    0
    I can not understand.
    Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation were adopted on responsibility up to criminal responsibility for conversations about the inviolability of borders at the current moment.
    Expansion is welcome, contraction is not.
    Our Japanese partners don't read newspapers or what?! ..
  22. Hiller
    Hiller April 10 2021 20: 55
    +1
    They lie - how they breathe. I wonder how many more cities had to be covered with atomic bombs so that the yapps did not lick the causal places of the mattress mats ??? Is Stockholm Syndrome indestructible?
    1. rati
      rati April 11 2021 11: 19
      0
      East is a delicate matter.
      The more covered, the more licked
  23. Khibiny Plastun
    Khibiny Plastun April 10 2021 21: 53
    +1
    Yes? And I remember that the Yapov were greatly offended by Brezhnev's words- You lost the war, you will have to put up with it ...
    And our Foreign Ministry should remind the Japanese, the words of their representative Komura in Portsmouth, when he was reminded of the previous Russian-Japanese treaties - "there was a war, it crossed out all the previous treaties"