1985 year. Unique special operation "Pennant" in Lebanon: reasonable intimidation of the enemy

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In his a book "Fiction is ruled out (notes from the head of illegal intelligence)" Yuri Ivanovich Drozdov wrote:

“I have been for many years. Life is behind us. Behind the shoulders of my country is a millennium. I am Russian. Since the time of the Scythians, we have been gullible, hospitable, but did not like to be put on our knees. We are very patient, but God forbid to bend it ... "

1985 year. Unique special operation "Pennant" in Lebanon: reasonable intimidation of the enemy

Once 35 and a half years ago in Lebanon they went overboard ...



Let's remember what happened then on September 30, 1985 in Beirut.

Diplomats held hostage by terrorists


It was the usual last September day in Lebanon. Nothing foreshadowed trouble. Suddenly a couple of cars of the Soviet Union embassy were cut off by terrorists. At that time, doctor Nikolai Svirsky, secretary of the consular department Arkady Katkov, attaché of the embassy Oleg Spirin and employee of the trade mission Valery Myrikov were in the ambassadorial cars.

Unknown terrorists dragged these four Soviet diplomats out of their official cars, put the bandits in their cars and drove them to no one knows where. In the process of kidnapping these Soviet citizens, Arkady Katkov was wounded by terrorists - he tried to escape. Due to the fact that medical assistance was denied to him, it came to gangrene. And Katkov was eliminated by the terrorists (it is known that he was shot by the terrorist Imad Mugniya, nicknamed Hyena, with his own hands).

The USSR secret services urgently found out that the theft of diplomats was organized by the Palestinians. It was established that a certain group of the Forces of Khalid bin al-Walid, led by Imad Mugniya, nicknamed Hyena, claimed responsibility for the audacious kidnapping of four Soviet citizens. This terrorist was the personal guard of the chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization, Yasser Arafat.

In addition, it was discovered that the attack on the staff of the Soviet diplomatic mission was ordered by the radical Shiite movement in Lebanon Hezbollah (an organization banned in the Russian Federation).

Left - Colonel Yu. N. Perfiliev, in 1985 - an employee of the First Main Directorate of the KGB of the USSR (foreign intelligence). On the right is the terrorist Hyena. Photo: Nikolay Dolgopolov / AP

It was also possible to determine that the terrorists hid the Soviet diplomats in Baalbek.

Soon, the leader of the bandits, Giena, presented a number of demands to the Soviet embassy. The essence of the ultimatum of the terrorists who then took our diplomats hostage was as follows. First of all, they demanded that the USSR force Syrian President Hafez Assad to stop operations in Northern Lebanon and give this territory to the Palestinians.

The terrorists' threats were not unfounded. By that time, they had already cordoned off the embassy residence. In addition, the Palestinian militants notified that they were going to start an assault on the encircled Soviet embassy and were ready to shoot both the kidnapped hostages and all other employees of the Soviet embassy.

The press today published that the Soviet ambassador then informed the USSR authorities about the situation. After that, telephone conversations with Yasser Arafat took place. First of all, he was asked how you can treat good friends like this:

“In addition, Mr. Arafat, you imagine that your threat about the storming of the embassy is simply unrealistic, because, as you know, about a hundred thousand regular Syrian army soldiers are stationed in Lebanon, who will come to our aid at any moment.

I ask you to take this factor into account and not to talk to me in such an impermissible tone.

And pass this on to your assistant Hyena (the ambassador specifically disclosed to Arafat that he knew the military name of Mugniya) so that he would forget the word “ultimatum” in relations with representatives of the Soviet Union. "

This conversation took place in harsh colors on purpose.

Then our ambassador, by order, demanded the release of the hostage diplomats, as well as the removal of the encirclement around the embassy building.

Later, from the interception of one of Arafat's conversations, it became known that after a conversation with the USSR ambassador, he ordered his entourage not to release the Soviet hostages and not to unblock the embassy building until the Syrian troops left northern Lebanon.

Here is what the adviser to the chief of intelligence told reporters:

“That is why Andrei Rogov was instructed to conduct a reconnaissance of the area for the presence of the hostages in Baalbek to ensure the possibility of a military operation to free them, and after the first unsuccessful attempt, Rogov turned to our chief, and he already decided to use us.

The adviser was outraged:

“How did Yasser Arafat decide to take such actions against us, after all, we nominated him to the leadership of the PLO, and provide a large volume of economic and military assistance? How many millions have we invested in it! His fighters only use ours weapon, which was mainly supplied to them free of charge. "

“Nobody understands this, not even our top management. But at the same time, we can’t lose control over the Palestinian movement ”.

Intelligent special forces "Vympel" in Lebanon


For this reason, the leadership of the USSR made a very bold and extraordinary decision. The task of freeing the hostage diplomats was entrusted to the recently created at that time special foreign intelligence unit of the KGB of the USSR "Vympel".


Control over the operation was entrusted to General Yu. I. Drozdov.

"Vympel" was not accidentally called the intellectual special forces, рассказал recently the president of the association of veterans of this unit Valery Popov told reporters.

"The art of such an intelligent special forces was not to use weapons, but to complete the task without anyone understanding what happened."

Ten commandos secretly arrived in Beirut. What is unusual for Soviet intelligence and the military concept - then, for the first time, it was decided to use harsh methods and intimidation.

The details of the communication have not yet been disclosed. There is a version that the intelligence officers had information from one of the secular leaders of the Druze community, Walid Jumblatt. Presumably, the whereabouts of the Soviet hostages became known from him. According to another possible version, this data was obtained from the national intelligence service of Israel.

All of a sudden, all of a sudden, in a strange way, the closest associates of Yasser Arafat and Hyena began to die. One by one, over a dozen such terrorists were eliminated.

And then an unknown child delivered a handwritten ultimatum to Hyena. This also clearly demonstrated to the leader of the bandits that his whereabouts are well known personally. The message sent to the terrorists said that if the bandits did not release the captured Soviet diplomats, then the leader of the Hyena gang could choose his next victim among his entourage. And then, it seems, Hyena realized that this next victim would surely be him now. After all, they went to him.

Be that as it may, but one day three Soviet bearded men approached the gates of the USSR embassy in Beirut. They were not even immediately recognized. These were the released diplomats. By that time, the bandits had also removed the embassy's entourage.

And our special forces disappeared from Beirut just as unclear as it appeared there.

Rumor has it that Yasser Arafat was then out of rage, as they say, ready to tear and throw. But he was already powerless to change anything. It became clear: the USSR is a toothy friend. Although this did not interfere with the friendship, rather, on the contrary, it became even stronger. Indeed, in the East, strength is respected.

This operation was undoubtedly a political victory for the Soviet Union.

Actually, the mission of the group was to free the hostages. Intelligence first established that they were being held in a Baalbek prison. Then it became known that they may have been transported to the Shatila camp. Initially, a forceful scheme for the release of our diplomats was considered. Therefore, it was necessary to know everything about the prison (camp) where they were kept.

For this, our intelligence officers had to penetrate, in fact, into the very den of terrorists. And to provide a detailed survey of the area and those buildings where hostages were held. The most modern digital reconnaissance equipment was used at that time. And the picture was transmitted to the USSR via satellites.

It was for this that Vympel visited Baalbek in those days. And I must say that the role of the special group can hardly be underestimated. The mission was accomplished.

By the way, the footage taken was very useful for demonstrating, among other things, the "soft power" of the Soviet Union. A couple of weeks after the release of our diplomats in Beirut, the USSR Central Television showed the film “20 minutes in Lebanon” in the “Film Travelers Club” program.

And what about our scouts?

Rumor has it that it was not without pleasure that they uncorked a bottle of whiskey together with their legendary General Yuri Drozdov.

Alas, in the dashing 90s, Yuri Ivanovich Drozdov will be fired from service. And the Vympel group will be disbanded. True, already in 2000, such a decision will be called incorrect and erroneous. And group "B" will appear in the country again.

Yuri Ivanovich Drozdov was once asked a question:

"Do you think the country needs to have a unit again that will carry out special missions abroad?"

He answered to it like this:

“Today it is impossible to use weapons that are destroying all of humanity. Judging by the documents of our "partners", to make war safe only with the help of aces-saboteurs, which can disable the object without engaging with it, destroy the enemy, making him unable to strike. Now that "Vympel"which was originally created, more needed than ever, I am firmly convinced of that. "

Yuri Ivanovich Drozdov

And once more, speaking to young scouts, Drozdov reminded them of the words of the famous General Alexei Alekseevich Brusilov:

"Governments change, but Russia remains, and everyone must serve her conscientiously in the specialty they once chose."

PS


The then four hostage-diplomats had different fates.

Recall that the wounded Arkady Katkov was shot by terrorists (namely, Hyena).

And the other three diplomats were sent home to the USSR after their release. Later, the doctor Svirsky and Myrikov again began to travel abroad.

But with the employee of the diplomatic mission Oleg Spirin there was a bad luck. After returning to the USSR and another five years at the Center, Major Spirin was sent to Kuwait. And there he ... suddenly disappeared. There is a version that this traitor fled to the West.

It is also known from the media that the car of the terrorist Hyena (who shot the Soviet diplomat Arkady Katkov) was blown up in the suburbs of Damascus at 11:12 on February 2008, XNUMX.
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  1. +50
    April 12 2021 04: 46
    I agree with Drozdov, in order to eliminate thugs in any part of the globe, our country needs to have a subdivision of people capable of handling such things without causing a diplomatic scandal.
    It is unacceptable for murderers and terrorists to evade retaliation.
    1. +41
      April 12 2021 06: 45
      To your words, I would add the presence of Faberge at the leadership, so that they have the will to send such people to any corner of the world. Otherwise I completely agree.
      1. +3
        April 16 2021 18: 51
        Even more correct - in addition to eliminating thugs in the most romantic corners of the planet, add one more task: to take care in case of disloyalty to the ruler. It should not be allowed that the long-term efforts of the entire country could collapse at the will of one person.
        1. +6
          April 18 2021 14: 09
          This is yes. The one that sunbathed in Foros in August 91 had to be reset to zero as well - after all, after the April Plenum of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR in 85, it was clear that a weak-willed amoeba was at the helm, working contrary to the interests of the USSR-Russia.
    2. +4
      April 12 2021 12: 57
      We must assume that there are similar ones now
      1. +3
        April 12 2021 16: 31
        Quote: Astra wild2
        We must assume that there are similar ones now

        There are, of course, similar ones, as well as in the mass of other states. But before that Pennant, they do not hold out. Well, it just doesn't matter to anyone.
        1. +2
          April 13 2021 00: 11
          Katkov was killed by the very same person sent by the Israelis to hell, Imad Mugniyah, the head of the military wing of Hezbollah, who was the closest friend and ally of Qassam Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards, who was sent by the Americans to hell.
          All fans of Iran and supporters of the creation of the Iranian atomic bomb would be well to understand about all these details.
          1. +7
            April 17 2021 06: 06
            When the Turks shot down our SU-24 in Syria and it was necessary to pull out the navigator, ours turned to the Iranians. And it was the people of Suleimani who rushed into the greenery, not giving a damn about safety, consequences and threats (including "from hell", with which you are trumpeting here). Thanks to Suleimani, we saved the navigator. And I don't give a damn about your "good to know."
    3. +2
      April 13 2021 13: 29
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I agree with Drozdov, in order to eliminate thugs in any part of the globe, our country needs to have a subdivision of people capable of handling such things without causing a diplomatic scandal.
      It is unacceptable for murderers and terrorists to evade retaliation.

      And it would be nice to choose "friends" correctly
    4. +1
      April 19 2021 15: 45
      Lech, actually there is such a unit. And this is exactly "Pennant". Right now in Berlin, our boyfriend Vadim Sokolov (real name Vadim Krasikov), a former (seemingly) employee of Vympel, is being tried. On trial for the liquidation of Zelimkhan Khangoshvili in Berlin in August 2019. We (Russia) twice asked Germany to extradite this Khangoshvili, we were twice refused. And so ... I think they will exchange them after the trial, but it's still unpleasant that they got caught. Either the level of the staff is falling, or the German police are doing very well.
  2. +23
    April 12 2021 04: 48
    Concern was not expressed then.
    1. +24
      April 12 2021 05: 35
      They acted when they needed will and firmness in such situations. An example is striking when everyone in the world understood how such an attitude towards a great country could end.
    2. +10
      April 12 2021 14: 57
      Concern was not expressed then.

      Why didn't they express it? Very much even expressed. You probably walked under the table then, that's why you don't remember. The USSR used the whole range of possibilities from purely diplomatic to military, from ideological to corruption.
  3. +19
    April 12 2021 04: 53
    poor plasticines. all of them bully them, even Arabs and friends from the USSR
    1. +17
      April 12 2021 05: 11
      Some friends need to be brought to their senses with a good slap on the head when they begin to bully.
      1. +21
        April 12 2021 05: 25
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Some friends need to be brought to their senses with a good slap on the head when they begin to bully.

        it is simply not worth and is not worth dividing terrorists into terrorists and friends.
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            1. +4
              April 12 2021 05: 45
              Well, whose white and black are now being decided in the US State Department ... I'm afraid soon the white, by the decision of the Washington Regional Committee, will lick the shoes of the black.
              1. +1
                April 12 2021 05: 49
                Well, it is not the State Department that decides which terrorists we should be friends with. what kind of ass ... kov to bring to the Kremlin and vouch with them. These are all excuses and nodding at others too.
                1. +6
                  April 12 2021 05: 59
                  Well, don't tell me ... remember who the late McCain would shake hands with in Syria. So if they are, then why don't we do it too.
                  There should be no Chosen Nation on earth ... the rules should be the same for all nations.
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              2. +8
                April 12 2021 06: 52
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                I'm afraid soon the white one by the decision of the Washington regional committee will lick the black shoes.

                We survived Obama, we will survive Biden. And if he goes too far, the American people will take advantage of the Second Amendment to the Constitution. And also, for information: in the military and police, the number of registered Republicans exceeds that of the Democrats at times.
                1. +2
                  April 12 2021 08: 53
                  [quote] [in the armed forces and police, the number of registered Republicans exceeds that of the Democrats at times / quote]
                  I believe, but, EMNIP, those 20000 National Guards stationed in the Capitol at Biden's inauguration, the FBI flew for sympathy with Trump. Isn't it the start of a big cleaning in the ranks? Ardent Republicans - out, latent - on bases abroad. As if in a year all the power structures on the mainland did not consist of democrats alone ... Like "less is more."
                  1. +5
                    April 12 2021 09: 35
                    Quote: dzvero
                    Ardent Republicans - out, latent - on bases abroad.

                    The police are subordinate not to the federal, and not even the state, but to the city authorities, so they will not be sent abroad. And the retired military will also not be sent anywhere.
                2. 0
                  April 12 2021 18: 34
                  Quote: Nagan
                  in the military and police, the number of registered Republicans exceeds that of the Democrats at times.
                  Where does the infa come from? Why didn't they work to stop violations during the elections?
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            1. -1
              April 12 2021 06: 56
              Our. smile
              And who is better for Russia Maduro or Guaido?
              Of these two, ours won ... Hallelujah.
              1. -1
                April 12 2021 09: 29
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Our. smile
                And who is better for Russia Maduro or Guaido?
                Of these two, ours won ... Hallelujah.

                But the Venezuelans did not feel better or calmer because of this. And any disease there is a death sentence, because there is no medicine, from the word at all. And this is in a country that, before Chavez came to power, was the richest in Latin America, and has oil reserves comparable only to Russia and the monarchies of the Persian Gulf.
                1. +4
                  April 12 2021 10: 10
                  And this is in a country that, before Chavez came to power, was the richest in Latin America.

                  Oh, don't ... Chavez kicked out American corporations who literally robbed the country from Venezuela ... of course, after that, the United States will do everything to overthrow the legitimate government that does not obey the Washington regional committee.
                  1. +2
                    April 12 2021 11: 10
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    Chavez kicked out American corporations who literally robbed a country from Venezuela ...

                    But the standard of living in this country brutally plundered by the American imperialists was the highest south of the US border. And now, when they are not being robbed, it is the lowest in the entire Western Hemisphere, except for Haiti. But at the same time, in Haiti, if you have money, you can buy everything, including medicines, and in Venezuela, if you glue the walls with money, it will cost less than wallpaper, which is not there anyway. And the grub is exclusively on the cards. And they are robbed exclusively by local people, the crime rate is such that even in the black areas of Chicago, compared to Venezuela, paradise and grace. And there is no electricity, and this, mind you in the tropics, where you can die without an air conditioner, and this is not a figure of speech, but people are dying from overheating.
                    1. +7
                      April 12 2021 15: 19
                      Nagant, this is how they even lived there - until the air conditioner became a manufactured product - eh? Dying of overheating due to the fault of whom? - Rather than sketching the next "ventilatory substance", it would be better to attend to comparing the lower level of life in the USSR and the present Erefia. We are worried about this much more than just another Honduras. which does not allow you to eat calmly.
                      1. +2
                        April 13 2021 03: 07
                        Quote: andrew42
                        Nagant, this is how they even lived there - until the air conditioner became a manufactured product - huh?

                        They lived either in shacks blown by all the winds, or in stone or brick houses with thick walls, which the sun did not have time to warm up in a day. At the same time, they built mainly one-story buildings in the shade of trees, and who could afford it, they made a patio with a fountain. They began to build high-rise buildings when at least forced ventilation appeared, which also requires electricity, and such construction went into full growth after the appearance of air conditioners. Something like this.
                        Quote: andrew42
                        another Honduras. which does not allow you to eat calmly.
                        Honduras as such is purple to us. But the Honduras, who run through Mexico to our border and through it, did not give the fuck to us. This particular community here in America specializes in murder, drug trafficking, and the illegal smuggling of people, including minors, who they force into prostitution to work their way. Have you heard about the MS-13 gang? So, its roots are in Honduras.
                  2. -10
                    April 12 2021 11: 39
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    Oh, don't ... Chavez kicked out American corporations who literally robbed the country from Venezuela ... of course, after that, the United States will do everything to overthrow the legitimate government

                    And what, have become better to live? Are you jealous of the cesspool that the commandante in the red shirt left behind? Let the Venezuelans die, just to wipe the State Department's nose?
              2. -3
                April 12 2021 11: 36
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                And who is better for Russia Maduro or Guaido?

                By and large, Russia does not care who will rake this garbage dump. Are you so worried about Sechin's assets in Venezuela? Are you a shareholder of Rosneft?
            2. +2
              April 12 2021 10: 50
              Whose is he really?
        2. -1
          April 12 2021 08: 46
          The United States does this all the time. Then the truth is, you have to clean up the whitening ones. Ours also sin from time to time. Method A - that works with skillful use. The main thing here is not to overdo it, but not to get carried away especially. And it's natural to be ready for a stab in the back. The temptation to hit such "friends" appears necessarily. Mentality. what
    2. +1
      April 12 2021 12: 59
      In fact, there are different among them
      1. 0
        April 12 2021 21: 57
        Quote: Astra wild2
        In fact, there are different among them

        Yes, yes, right after Sobakevich ... there was one honest - and that pig))
        Who do you mean? Is it not a handshake ophthalmologist? This 'difference' of yours is an exclusively monetized substance.
        1. 0
          April 13 2021 08: 45
          I do not argue with Sobakevich
          1. -1
            April 13 2021 09: 44
            Quote: Astra wild2
            I do not argue with Sobakevich

            then what is the difference between them? They are all at the first race .......
  4. +2
    April 12 2021 05: 54
    The East has always been / is, a tough business.
  5. +18
    April 12 2021 06: 38
    In addition, it was discovered that the attack on the staff of the Soviet diplomatic mission was ordered by the radical Shiite movement in Lebanon Hezbollah (an organization banned in the Russian Federation).

    With what fright Hezbollah banned in the Russian Federation? On the contrary. Hezbollah opens its office in Moscow.

    It is also known from the media that the car of the terrorist Hyena (who shot the Soviet diplomat Arkady Katkov) was blown up in the suburbs of Damascus at 11:12 on February 2008, XNUMX.

    The author forgot to write who took responsibility for eliminating the monster and how he was eliminated ...

    The article is written on the basis of tales. negative
    1. +9
      April 12 2021 08: 19
      Rarely do I agree with you, but here you are absolutely right.
    2. +12
      April 12 2021 08: 26
      The author forgot to write who took responsibility for eliminating the monster and how he was eliminated ...

      She's too tough for such data - there is simply nowhere to copy smile
      Fact: Mughniya died in a car bombing in the suburbs of Damascus, Syria on February 12, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. after returning from a banquet at the Iranian embassy dedicated to the XNUMXth anniversary of the Islamic revolution. So far, no one has claimed responsibility for the murder of Mugniyah.
      According to Le Figaro, Mugniya was most likely liquidated by the Syrian special service after trying to recruit supporters in the elite units of the Syrian army. The Shiite movement "Amal" and various Palestinian groups, competing with the pro-Iranian "Hezbollah", and the 2nd bureau of the Lebanese military counterintelligence, and the Israeli special services were also interested in its elimination. Blood feud is not excluded. There were too many people who wanted to deal with this terrorist.
      link: "Essays on the history of Russian foreign intelligence", volume 6
      1. +6
        April 12 2021 10: 23
        Quote: Richard
        The author forgot to write who took responsibility for eliminating the monster and how he was eliminated ...

        She's too tough for such data - there is simply nowhere to copy smile
        Fact: Mughniya died in a car bombing in the suburbs of Damascus, Syria on February 12, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. after returning from a banquet at the Iranian embassy dedicated to the XNUMXth anniversary of the Islamic revolution. So far, no one has claimed responsibility for the murder of Mugniyah.
        According to Le Figaro, Mugniya was most likely liquidated by the Syrian special service after trying to recruit supporters in the elite units of the Syrian army. The Shiite movement "Amal" and various Palestinian groups, competing with the pro-Iranian "Hezbollah", and the 2nd bureau of the Lebanese military counterintelligence, and the Israeli special services were also interested in its elimination. Blood feud is not excluded. There were too many people who wanted to deal with this terrorist.
        link: "Essays on the history of Russian foreign intelligence", volume 6

        Capacious addition to the article hi
      2. +2
        April 12 2021 13: 29
        "too many wanting to deal with this terrorist" is probably the fate of all known terrorists. Especially in the east
    3. +1
      April 12 2021 10: 25
      Quote: professor
      The author forgot to write who took responsibility for eliminating the monster and how he was eliminated ...

      I think you still know who the "freak" crushed.
      1. +7
        April 12 2021 11: 19
        Quote: tihonmarine
        who crushed the "freak".

        Quotation marks, why? He is ypod and is, or rather was, and primarily moral. So he got what he deserved.
    4. +1
      April 12 2021 10: 53
      Professor, if: "written on the basis of tales" then what is reality?
  6. +11
    April 12 2021 06: 44
    Here are your great and sincere Arab friends. Continue to be friends with them.
    1. -2
      April 12 2021 22: 22
      Quote: Nagan
      Here are your great and sincere Arab friends. Continue to be friends with them.

      We still have, it turns out, 'big and sincere' friends in LA, funny red-shirt mestizos who are ready to fight the sworn enemy of all progressive mankind to the last roll of pipifax, that is, of course, with your country, Nagan, stay. You are lucky that Comrade Sechin is not some kind of elder shark, and with his submission, the Supreme Commander will not send the Russian AUG to the shores of the anxiously beloved Venezuela. laughing
      By the way, you, as the guardian of the site, should remember the extravaganza around the theme of the 'Nicaraguan Canal')
      The LA theme (I don't mean LA of course) is nostalgic romantic pulp. So - not by the Arabs alone, the Soviet dement patriot is now alive)))
    2. Alf
      +2
      April 12 2021 22: 22
      Quote: Nagan
      Here are your great and sincere Arab friends. Continue to be friends with them.

      In fact, the Americans were also passionately friends with the Mujahideen in the 80s, and in the 2000s they began to fight with them ...
      1. +1
        April 13 2021 05: 09
        Quote: Alf
        In fact, the Americans were also passionately friends with the Mujahideen in the 80s.
        Even great people, to whom I, without any irony, refer to Ronald Reagan, sometimes make mistakes. Afghanistan is his mistake. However, even without Reagan's support for the dushmans, the USSR would hardly have been able to restore order in Afghanistan, this is such a place blessed by Allah and cursed by God.
        Quote: Alf
        in the 2000s, they began to fight with them ...

        Reagan clearly does not support the Taliban, and there is no way to get rid of them.
        1. Alf
          0
          April 13 2021 19: 46
          Quote: Nagan
          Reagan clearly does not support the Taliban, and there is no way to get rid of them.

          The US government adopted the British policy model - The US has no permanent friends or enemies, the US has permanent interests.
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      3. 0
        April 13 2021 13: 43
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Nagan
        Here are your great and sincere Arab friends. Continue to be friends with them.

        In fact, the Americans were also passionately friends with the Mujahideen in the 80s, and in the 2000s they began to fight with them ...

        Not with the Mujahideen, but with the Taliban. The victorious Mujahideen formed a government and elected a president. Then the Taliban came and slapped them. The USA turned a blind eye to it for a long time, but after the terrorist attacks they decided to clean up this cesspool. Without much success. Or to distinguish between a peaceful dekhanin and a partisan practically Impossible. also in Chechnya there was, where there was an alternative either to cut out the entire male population or put your own scoundrel
        1. Alf
          -1
          April 13 2021 19: 46
          Quote: Pilat2009
          but after the terrorist attacks

          Which they themselves arranged ...
  7. +20
    April 12 2021 07: 06
    Madame Frolova and her repertoire.
    the radical Shiite movement in Lebanon "Hezbollah" (an organization banned in the Russian Federation).

    In Russia, Hezbollah is not only not considered a terrorist organization, not only is it not banned, but is received in Moscow at the highest level.
    The visit on March 15, 2021 included meetings with representatives of the Foreign Ministry, the Federation Council and the State Duma. The delegation met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, followed by another lengthy meeting with Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov.

    Imad Mughniya, a senior member and chief of the security services of the Lebanese Shiite organization Hezbollah and one of its founders, never served as Yasser Arafat's personal bodyguard, although he served in "unit 17", which, among other things, was engaged in the protection of rais.
    All of a sudden, all of a sudden, in a strange way, the closest associates of Yasser Arafat and Hyena began to die. One by one, over a dozen such terrorists were eliminated.
    Madame is exaggerating. A little more than a month passed from the abduction of the diplomats to their release. I believe in the forces of the Soviet special forces of those years, but the deaths of several militants in those days was just a coincidence:
    in an accidental skirmish with the Lebanese security forces, one of the kidnappers and the brother of the other were killed.

    By the time the diplomats were kidnapped, Arafat had been hiding in Libya for three years and could not provide any assistance in the release of the abducted. And he did not need an extra quarrel with his comrades-in-arms in terror.
    By the way, Mugnia was also behind the armed attack on the Russian embassy in Beirut in 2000.
    1. +6
      April 12 2021 09: 29
      Imad Mughniya, a senior member and chief of the intelligence services of the Lebanese Shiite organization Hezbollah and one of its founders, has never been Yasser's personal guard

      That's right, Alexander, since September 1982 he headed the personal guard of the spiritual leader of Hezbollah, Sheikh M.H. Fadlallah.
      Madame Frolova Fadlallu simply confused with Yasser. She often has such a thing. These are still flowers. She, without batting an eye, narrates that - "Pennant" was sent to Lebanon to free the hostages not by M. Gorbachev, but by the deceased Yu. Andropov:
      On the personal order of Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov, the task of freeing the hostage diplomats was entrusted to the recently created at that time special foreign intelligence unit of the KGB of the USSR "Vympel".
      smile
      1. +8
        April 12 2021 11: 04
        "It was not Mikhail Gorbachev who sent it, but the deceased Yu. Andropov" there are two options: 1) Mrs. Frolova absolutely does not know our recent history
        2) M.S.Gorbachev, to put it mildly, is not popular and Frolova turned to the deceased for help
  8. +4
    April 12 2021 07: 17
    I always wrote that Arab friends wanted to spit on the interests of both the USSR and Russia. But in modern Russian diplomacy, masochists probably work. The case of Il20 is an example of Israel's fault and not the calculation of the Syrian air defense, and the aid, as it went on, is going on.
    1. -1
      April 12 2021 07: 20
      In this case, it is Israel that is to blame for putting our plane under the C200 attack.
      The death of our people lies with Israel.
      1. -1
        April 12 2021 07: 51
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        In this case, it is Israel that is to blame for putting our plane under the C200 attack.
        The death of our people lies with Israel.

        Stop carrying the blizzard. Soviet / Russian missiles explode next to the aircraft, forming a cloud of shrapnel. It is unrealistic to hide from it with the aluminum body of an aircraft, it's like covering yourself with a piece of cardboard from a machine gun bullet. It would never occur to any Israeli pilot to use someone else's aircraft as a cover, for this they use the "anti-missile slide" technique. You are being fed such a primitive lie that you simply wonder how sane people can believe in it. It is not surprising that such people can be controlled as you want.
        1. +3
          April 12 2021 10: 01
          It is not surprising that such people can be controlled as you want.
          It is people like you who are trying to manage people by selling your version of events.
          Your flyers chose a raid on Syria when the IL-20 was on duty ... your flyers knew this very well and used this moment for their own purposes ... at the moment of alarm, the S-200 operators mistook our plane for an Israeli one and opened fire.
          The Syrians can only be accused of not making a request to our service before opening fire ... but the same fault lies with us.
          So gentlemen, Jews, you will not deceive me with your lies.
          1. +5
            April 12 2021 12: 16
            Quote: Lech from Android.

            Your flyers chose a raid on Syria when the IL-20 was on duty ... your flyers knew this very well and used this moment for their own purposes ... at the moment of alarm, the S-200 operators mistook our plane for an Israeli one and opened fire.
            The Syrians can only be accused of not making a request to our service before opening fire ... but the same fault lies with us.
            So gentlemen, Jews, you will not deceive me with your lies.

            At the time of the Israeli attack, Il 20 was over Idlib, and it was shot down after the destruction of objects - over Latakia.
        2. +3
          April 12 2021 10: 37
          [quote = andreykolesov123] [quote = Lech from Android.] In this case, it is Israel that is to blame for putting our plane under attack from C200.
          The death of our people lies with Israel. [/ Quote]
          Stop carrying the blizzard. Soviet / Russian missiles explode next to the aircraft, forming a cloud of shrapnel. It is unrealistic to hide from it with the aluminum body of an aircraft, it's like covering yourself with a piece of cardboard from a machine gun bullet. It would never occur to any Israeli pilot to use someone else's aircraft as a cover, for this they use the "anti-missile slide" technique. You are being fed such a primitive lie that you simply wonder how sane people can believe in it. It is not surprising that such people can be controlled as you want. [/ Quote] Akolesov123
          You follow the hill by responding to comments, there is an official statement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation -provocation of the Israeli military (resembles the 70s) or, as they say, you have objective data?
          1. -8
            April 12 2021 12: 29
            Here I am amazed by the mortar flies of the Russians, allies and friends hit but the capitalists-imperialists-Zionists are to blame. It is indicative of the story of the USSR Ambassador to Iran, when Saddam attacked an audience with the Iranian Foreign Minister, the ambassador assured that the USSR did not know about the insidious plans of his friend Sadam. But when the bombing began, the ambassador asked what it was. To which the minister replied "These are your MiGs" in diplomatic language, this phrase meant that the ambassador was lying. And even during the Iran-Iraq war, Syria was an ally of Tehran, but the ambassadors were captured by "HAZBOLA" about the Iranian group in Lebanon, that is the ambitions of Pope Assad, Arafat, Khomeini are higher than any kind of ambassadors of the USSR, all the same, they will give money and weapons, and they will also turn so that the imperialists are to blame.
            1. +3
              April 12 2021 12: 41
              Shiden, I voiced the official version of a specific case. I did not remember the drinking of bygone days and did not cite as an example hi
              1. +1
                April 12 2021 15: 53
                Yes, then, too, in Soviet newspapers they wrote that the ambassadors were captured by reactionary forces. And all Soviet citizens thought that this was the intrigues of the United States and Israel. You will not find the same situation with Ilom, I would not be surprised if the Syrians and C300 overwhelmed another Russian plane.
                1. 0
                  April 12 2021 15: 59
                  Quote: Shiden
                  Yes, then, too, in Soviet newspapers they wrote that the ambassadors were captured by reactionary forces. And all Soviet citizens thought that this was the intrigues of the United States and Israel. You will not find the same situation with Ilom, I would not be surprised if the Syrians and C300 overwhelmed another Russian plane.

                  God is their judge, time passes and changes. I would not want the saying - "this will pass, too" was applied so often hi
          2. +2
            April 12 2021 16: 15
            Quote: Andrey Korotkov
            there is an official statement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

            Do you admit the thought that your officials are lying to you, that the military, that the civilians? They cover their butts as standard to explain their incompetence - their own ally, who had been trained and armed for many years, took and shot down a Russian plane.
            1. +1
              April 12 2021 16: 23
              Quote: andreykolesov123
              Quote: Andrey Korotkov
              there is an official statement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

              Do you admit the thought that your officials are lying to you, that the military, that the civilians? They cover their butts as standard to explain their incompetence - their own ally, who had been trained and armed for many years, took and shot down a Russian plane.

              I admit, read below on the branch with Krasnodar, apparently when we had lunch with him from 12:00 you were waiting for an afternoon snack at 16:00
      2. +3
        April 12 2021 12: 06
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        In this case, it is Israel that is to blame for putting our plane under the C200 attack.
        The death of our people lies with Israel.

        In that case, KP Khmeimim is to blame for sending its pilots into someone else's air defense battle and not ordering the Syrians to cease fire.
        1. +2
          April 12 2021 12: 49
          The reconnaissance plane was in the active phase of the search (rocket launch from a French frigate), ~ 35 km to Khmeimin (signal loss), wreckage 25 km to the airfield, like there was an agreement for friendly fire
          1. +4
            April 12 2021 14: 58
            This is after the Israeli attack, without comparing the data on the Jewish warning (perhaps the Russian-speaking Israeli woman translated Industry Object, North, Syria as an industrial facility in Northern Syria), as well as the "approach to the attack in Eastern Cyprus", sent a RER plane to see who was shooting, i.e. to. the beginning of the attack was missed, and the naval tip-off indicated noise and light in the area of ​​the French frigate (a slide with an ultra-small and sound barrier). As a result, they introduced the plane into someone else's air defense battle, the Syrians were allowed to shoot, moreover, at the Israelis' electronic warfare markers after the end of the attack. As for the talents of the air defense of the SAR - everyone has known everything for a long time, so with what head it was necessary to send an expensive plane with a bunch of people there - it is not clear.
            The initial mission of the Il-20 was reconnaissance of the activity of militants in Idlib, and deployed from a great mind to the Mediterranean Sea.
            1. +2
              April 12 2021 15: 07
              Quote: Krasnodar
              This is after the Israeli attack, without comparing the data on the Jewish warning (perhaps the Russian-speaking Israeli woman translated Industry Object, North, Syria as an industrial facility in Northern Syria), as well as the "approach to the attack in Eastern Cyprus", they sent a RER plane to see who was shooting, i.e. to. the beginning of the attack was missed, and the naval tip-off indicated noise and light in the area of ​​the French frigate (a slide with an ultra-small and sound barrier). As a result, they introduced the plane into someone else's air defense battle, the Syrians were allowed to shoot, moreover, at the Israelis' electronic warfare markers after the end of the attack. As for the talents of the Syrians - everyone has known everything for a long time, so with what head it was necessary to send an expensive plane with a bunch of people - it is not known.
              The initial mission of the Il-20 was reconnaissance of the activity of militants in Idlib, and deployed from a great mind to the Mediterranean Sea.

              I never argue, the Russian army has been in Syria since September 2015, the incident is September 2018 - in three years it was possible to work out the interaction (it is to some extent)
              1. +6
                April 12 2021 15: 17
                The problem there, unfortunately, is much greater than coordination with the Israelis alone.
                There should be an operational center under the command that monitors the situation, is in contact with Jews, Turks, Syrians, Persians, Americans, army and foreign intelligence. Such a center must, by order, make adjustments to the lightning-fast changing situation after analyzing the information received from all sources. This requires specialists - graduates of the army academy, a whole staff of translators and analysts. Expensive - but it will save lives and increase the effectiveness of the Russian Armed Forces contingent in Syria. Not to mention the prevention of conflicts that may arise with other countries due to hostilities in this territory.
    2. +6
      April 12 2021 10: 31
      Quote: Shiden
      I always wrote that Arab friends wanted to spit on the interests of the USSR and that of Russia.

      That's for sure, you can't trust either Arabic or Israeli friends.
      1. -1
        April 12 2021 11: 44
        Quote: tihonmarine
        That's for sure, you can't trust either Arabic or Israeli friends.

        How interesting - name the "friends" of Russia who enjoy its full confidence.
      2. +1
        April 12 2021 16: 21
        Quote: tihonmarine
        That's for sure, you can't trust either Arabic or Israeli friends.

        you got involved in someone else's conflict. what for? defend the Russians in the former republics. Because of the ambition of the management, your guys are returning in coffins. unnecessary losses.
  9. +10
    April 12 2021 07: 19
    Soon, the leader of the bandits, Giena, presented a number of demands to the Soviet embassy.

    The terrorists did not communicate with the Soviet embassy. On October 1, they handed over to local journalists photographs of the abducted with pistols at their temples and the text of an appeal to the international press:
    Message to the international press.
    "We ask you to inform the Embassy of the USSR about the capture of Russian diplomats as hostages by the patriots of Lebanon and to convey to them the following message:" You infidel Russians, these evil enemies of Islam, are directly responsible for the atrocities of your ally Syria, which unleashed a fratricidal war with true Muslims in Northern Lebanon near the city of Tripoli. Therefore, Moscow must put pressure on Damascus and stop the Syrian military operation. And the Soviet embassy-a hotbed of anti-Muslim contagion-must be evacuated within a few days or will be stormed next Friday after morning prayers. If we refuse to comply with our demands, we will kill the hostages one by one. Photos of your diplomats, captured by us with pistols at their heads, are attached to this message. "
    1985.10.01.
    Lebanese patriotic group "Forces of Khaled Bin al-Walid"

    transfer:
    .International press release.
    We ask you to inform the USSR Embassy about the seizure of Lebanon by the patriots of Russian diplomats and send them the following message:
    “You unfaithful Russians, these evil enemies of Islam, are directly responsible for the atrocities of your ally Syria, which has unleashed a fratricidal war with true Muslims in northern Lebanon near the city of Tripoli.
    Therefore, Moscow must put pressure on Damascus and stop the Syrian military operation. And the Soviet embassy - a hotbed of anti-Muslim contagion - must be evacuated within a few days or be stormed next Friday after morning prayer. If we refuse to fulfill our demands, we will kill the hostages one by one. Photos of your diplomats, captured by us with pistols at their heads, are attached to this message. "
    01.10.1985.
    Lebanese patriotic group "Forces of Khaled bin al-Walid"

    link: "Essays on the history of Russian foreign intelligence", volume 6
    1. +8
      April 12 2021 09: 20
      Quote: Richard
      You unfaithful Russians, these vicious enemies of Islam, are directly responsible for the atrocities

      Well, here's the essence of the "religion of the world." And in Moscow, Hezbollons are greeted with bread and salt.
      1. +2
        April 12 2021 10: 42
        Quote: Nagan
        Quote: Richard
        You unfaithful Russians, these vicious enemies of Islam, are directly responsible for the atrocities

        Well, here's the essence of the "religion of the world." And in Moscow, Hezbollons are greeted with bread and salt.

        Everything flows, everything changes request request
  10. +10
    April 12 2021 07: 41
    Responsibility for the seizure was claimed by the previously unknown Lebanese group, the Forces of Khaled bin al-Walid. But soon the Beirut KGB station was able to establish that the real organizers of the seizure were the Shiite fundamentalists of Hezbollah and the Palestinian activists of Fatah. According to the same intelligence, the seizure of Soviet diplomats was coordinated with radical representatives of the Iranian clergy and received the blessing of Hezbollah's religious leader Sheikh Fadlallah. The Beirut KGB station also informed that the seizure was carried out by Arafat's closest people, together with Hezbollah. However, she emphasized that the PLO leader himself did not give sanction for this and was presented with a fait accompli.
    link: "Essays on the history of Russian foreign intelligence", volume 6
    In the book of the former resident of Soviet intelligence in Beirut Yuri Perfiliev "Terror. Beirut. Hot October" the role of Yasser Arafat - "the friend of the Soviet people" - is described vividly and murderously. After the abduction of the hostages, he declared that the USSR was a friend of the Arabs, and he was taking urgent measures to free the Soviet diplomats. The measures consisted in the fact that Arafat proposed the organizers of the abduction to the Soviet resident as his representatives for negotiations. Then Arafat said that he had agreed to release the hostages and was ready to hand over $ 100 for their ransom.
    Competing with the pro-Iranian Hezbollah, the Amal Shiite movement and the anti-Arafat Palestinian groups Fatah-Intifada and Al-Saik, on the other hand, offered the USSR any assistance in freeing the hostages and using intelligence and force directly. They received information that the bandits who kidnapped Soviet citizens settled in the Shatila Palestinian refugee camp. Captured by Yasser Arafat's assistant Imad Lugnie, nicknamed Hyena
    1. +4
      April 12 2021 12: 50
      "the seizure was carried out by the assistant of Yasser Arafat" Arafat is also a goose: he is nowhere and not directly, but what Lugnie's leader is: "consider it a coincidence."
      Why then I confess that there were many detailed "coincidences". Israeli comrades know better and can tell
    2. +3
      April 12 2021 13: 45
      "to transfer a ransom of $ 100 for them" is actually a signal to others: do you need money, seize Soviet diplomats, or am I mistaken?
    3. +3
      April 12 2021 13: 50
      "on the contrary, they offered the USSR any help free of charge," but we were told that the PLO is monolithic and Arafat is the people's favorite
    4. -1
      April 12 2021 16: 26
      Quote: Richard
      bandits settled in the Shatila Palestinian refugee camp

      this is the same Shatila, in which the Lebanese Christians then put things in order, killing some number of Palestinians, but the Soviet press blamed everything on Israel. We would feel sorry for our own diplomats.
  11. +9
    April 12 2021 07: 56
    Another interesting fact from the sixth volume of the collection "Essays on the History of Russian Foreign Intelligence":
    Mikhail Gorbachev sent a personal message to Syrian President Hafez Assad. He asked him to refrain from hostilities against Palestinian militias in the area of ​​the city of Tripoli. Assad agreed and complied with Moscow's request. At some point, it was decided to release the hostages. But Arafat called and ordered not to let anyone go until there were guarantees. Whose? they asked him. "Mine" - was the answer.
    This conversation was intercepted by the 2nd bureau of the Lebanese military counterintelligence, which, not without pleasure, showed the interception text to Soviet diplomats - this is what your best friend is. For those it caused a real shock. It turned out that Arafat and his militants got a taste and decided to pull off another little business.
    The Syrians, having stopped the operation in the north, decided to cleanse the PLO militants from the suburbs of Beirut, where they were pretty tired. So Arafat decided to follow the second round. Use the hostages again to blackmail the Kremlin: "Either you put pressure on Damascus again and force it to abandon the operation in the Beirut area, or we will destroy the hostages."
    Assad was furious and decided to meet Moscow halfway. Thus, virtually all of the terrorists' demands were met. However, even after that, the bandits did their best to drag out the case and did not release the captives.
    This is what was the catalyst for sending the "Vympel" to Lebanon.
    .
  12. +7
    April 12 2021 08: 01
    According to the KGB of the USSR, the operation to capture four Soviet diplomats was directly supervised by the head of the Operations Department of Hezbollah (Munata'mat al-Jihad al-Islami, hereinafter MDI) Imad Mua'niya, a native of the South Lebanese village of Tir Daba, 1962 birth. Since the mid-70s, a member of Fatah (Y. Arafat). In the period 1977-82. was a member of the intelligence and special units of this organization ("Power-17", the United Security Directorate, etc.). In August-September 1982, he established contacts with representatives of the radical Shiite organization Hezb al-Dawa al-Islamiya. After graduating from a refresher course under the guidance of the IRGC instructors at the Imam Ali base (district of Baalbek), he headed the personal security of the spiritual leader of Hezbollah, Sheikh M. Kh. Fadlallah. In the autumn of the same year, he was appointed head of the MDI. Munata'mat al-Jihad al-Islami is Hezbollah's most secret and powerful unit.
    The Beirut KGB station recruited several representatives of I. Mua'niya's inner circle, as well as a number of sources in the MDI and the political leadership of Hezbollah. In the event of the elimination of all the hostages, the KGB planned an operation to eliminate I. Mua'niya, in order to preserve the authority of the USSR in the eyes of the social and political forces of Lebanon, and also to prevent the seizure of Soviet citizens by Islamic extremists in the future.
    But first, the "specialists" who arrived, with the assistance of the Security Service of the friendly PSP (Progressive Socialist Party), captured two relatives of I. Mua'nia's closest aides. A few days later, the body of one of them with a slit throat and his own genitals in his mouth was found at the entrance to his house. With the killed there was a note with a warning, according to which the second relative would suffer the same fate if the Soviet hostages were not immediately released. At the same time, the PSP militants liquidated the brother of I. Mua'niya's deputy, H. Salame. As a result of massive psychological pressure on the leadership of the MDI a month after the seizure, Soviet diplomats were at large.
    On the evening of October 30, 1985, a border guard on duty at the main entrance to the USSR Embassy in Beirut peered at television screens reflecting approaches to the Soviet diplomatic mission. Three bearded strangers persistently rang the doorbell. They were not recognized immediately - the former hostages of Valery Myrikov, Nikolai Svirsky and Oleg Spirin. The day before they were brought blindfolded. The abductors demanded not to remove the bandages until the noise of the departing car was quiet. When the engine rumble subsided, they took wide towels from their eyes and, seeing the embassy in front of them, rushed to it.
    The return of the hostages seemed to be saluted by the whole of Beirut. Such a shot was fired into the air that local television on this occasion was forced to give an explanation that this was not another military operation, but a demonstration of joy in connection with the release of Soviet diplomats.
    link: "Essays on the history of Russian foreign intelligence", volume 6
  13. +13
    April 12 2021 08: 11
    On the personal order of Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov, the task of freeing the hostage diplomats was entrusted to the recently created at that time special foreign intelligence unit of the KGB of the USSR "Vympel".

    I agree that some leaders of the USSR RULED WITHOUT COMING TO CONSCIOUSNESS, BUT THIS IS HOW I could give an order from the grave of Andropov, the year of death 1984, in 1985 this is a mystery.
    1. +9
      April 12 2021 08: 23
      BUT THIS IS HOW could give an order from the grave of Andropov, the year of death 1984, in 1985 this is a mystery.

      Read who the author is. Nothing is impossible for her.
      1. +2
        April 12 2021 10: 45
        Quote: Aviator_
        BUT THIS IS HOW could give an order from the grave of Andropov, the year of death 1984, in 1985 this is a mystery.

        Read who the author is. Nothing is impossible for her.

        How many times have you read her opuses - apparently there is laughing
    2. +14
      April 12 2021 08: 24
      Quote: edelweiss968
      HOW could give an order from the grave of Andropov, the year of death 1984, in 1985 this is a mystery.

      The question is asked into the void. Autoress is not in the habit of communicating with readers.
      1. +3
        April 12 2021 13: 57
        Colleague Privalov, you are right: not all authors communicate with the "people", that is, with us readers
  14. +2
    April 12 2021 08: 47
    "The USSR secret services urgently found out that the theft of diplomats was organized by the Palestinians."
    It's interesting, but what was in the "diplomats" that they were stolen?
    1. +9
      April 12 2021 09: 26
      Quote: mr.ZinGer
      and what was in the "diplomats" that they were stolen?

      Secret documents. Currency. Weapon. Drugs. A bottle of vodka and a stick of sausage. Worn underwear in a ball. Is it all the same? The Arab brothers will pocket everything and ask for more.
  15. +1
    April 12 2021 10: 23
    Unfortunately, we do not see the main thing! - the political will of the first persons to make such decisions !!!
  16. +3
    April 12 2021 10: 50
    I'm wondering how Andropov in 1985 could personally give orders? Then he died in February 84. After this, there are big questions to the article about the reliability of the information.
    1. +1
      April 12 2021 10: 52
      wink Edelweiss removed the question from the tongue
  17. +5
    April 12 2021 11: 50
    Hitler's palaces in Ukraine, now Andropov, giving orders from under the Kremlin wall ... Frolova is really mentally flawed. But questions, rather, to the administration - why should I miss such unscrupulous scribbling?
    1. +3
      April 12 2021 17: 33
      Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Hitler's palaces in Ukraine, now Andropov, giving orders from under the Kremlin wall ... Frolova is really mentally flawed. But questions, rather, to the administration - why should I miss such unscrupulous scribbling?

      The administration cannot conduct a scientific examination of articles. You cannot demand the impossible from the editorial board. Who will recheck dates, events, names, positions, etc.? They check the text for plagiarism (here, however, copy-paste by 90 percent), so that the text does not contain materials prohibited by law and site rules. The authors themselves are responsible for the information in their opuses.
      1. +1
        April 12 2021 17: 55
        Frolova, with her stupid schoolboy compilations, evokes persistent idiosyncrasy among VO users - this is an indisputable fact. Even the refined Stalinists who bought into its first publication were disappointed, I believe, in this mediocrity.
  18. +2
    April 12 2021 12: 37
    Author:
    Irina Frolova

    Let's remember what happened then on September 30, 1985 in Beirut.
    .....
    But with the employee of the diplomatic mission Oleg Spirin there was a bad luck. After returning to the USSR and another five years at the Center, Major Spirin was sent to Kuwait. And there he ... suddenly disappeared. There is a version that this traitor fled to the West.

    It sounds strange that there is a version, and there is no exact data, especially when you consider that:
    Robert Ames was recruited in April 1985 one of the heads of the residences of the KGB of the USSR in Washington, an employee of the First Main Directorate, Colonel Viktor Cherkashin.

    At least after some time, Ames would have been aware of this betrayal, so the author's version of the article sounds unconvincing. Most likely, he could become just an accidental victim of some kind of operation, and as a result he died, and his corpse was destroyed so that there were no traces. Although this is my personal version, and it is based on the case of the disappearance of a major of the GRU in the GSVG, who then sailed to the United States after a certain time, i.e. the ends were found.
    1. 0
      April 12 2021 20: 04
      Quote: ccsr
      Author:
      Irina Frolova

      Let's remember what happened then on September 30, 1985 in Beirut.
      .....
      But with the employee of the diplomatic mission Oleg Spirin there was a bad luck. After returning to the USSR and another five years at the Center, Major Spirin was sent to Kuwait. And there he ... suddenly disappeared. There is a version that this traitor fled to the West.

      It sounds strange that there is a version, and there is no exact data, especially when you consider that:
      Robert Ames was recruited in April 1985 one of the heads of the residences of the KGB of the USSR in Washington, an employee of the First Main Directorate, Colonel Viktor Cherkashin.

      At least after some time, Ames would have been aware of this betrayal, so the author's version of the article sounds unconvincing. Most likely, he could become just an accidental victim of some kind of operation, and as a result he died, and his corpse was destroyed so that there were no traces. Although this is my personal version, and it is based on the case of the disappearance of a major of the GRU in the GSVG, who then sailed to the United States after a certain time, i.e. the ends were found.


      Information about Spirin's betrayal is based on the memoirs of Colonel Perfiliev.

      The hostage became a traitor

      Each of the kidnapped four has its own destiny. Katkov died, the other three were sent to Moscow. Dr. Svirsky and Myrikov then went on business trips abroad again. But with Oleg Spirin, he, like Myrikov, was an intelligence officer, an unpleasant story happened.

      Returning from Lebanon, Spirin, seemingly a nice guy in his early thirties, worked at the Center for five years. He was sent on a business trip to Kuwait. Nothing foreshadowed any difficulties. And when Major Spirin disappeared, it came as a shock to the staff. From Kuwait, the traitor's family was immediately sent by plane to England, from there to the United States. Such is the turn: reconnaissance - captivity - liberation - reconnaissance - betrayal. According to Perfiliev, Spirin's wife did not want to return to the USSR, she left first. And Spirin realized that in Moscow they would not forgive him, his career was over. A weak man, he, once saved by his country, decided to betray ...

      Source:
      https://rg.ru/2020/07/22/kak-v-1985-godu-osvobozhdali-sovetskih-zalozhnikov-v-livane.html


      Shl. Judging by the text, Spirin's escape "to the West" took place in 1990-91 (or a little later).
  19. +1
    April 12 2021 14: 44
    Hmm .. For completeness, it was necessary for the Hyena and bang. And so .... Imperfections.
    1. +4
      April 12 2021 16: 31
      Quote: mmaxx
      Hmm .. For completeness, it was necessary for the Hyena and bang. And so .... Imperfections.

      banged. Israelis. Russians were habitually indignant.
  20. -1
    April 12 2021 16: 13
    Da uzh eti palestinci.
    Dumayu shto zachistka etikh gnoynikov Sabra i Shatila bila k polzhu.
  21. 0
    April 12 2021 17: 06
    Well, that's why this unit is not used to eliminate all the Yaroshes, Turchinovs, Avakovs, and so on, various neo-Nazi scum in Ukraine .. You need to show your teeth, and not just call for peace.
  22. +3
    April 12 2021 17: 07
    And what, the materials about the operation are declassified and can be freely obtained from the archive? I doubt it. And if so, then all these memoirs, and do not contain an ounce of truth. Otherwise, it would be the divulging of secrets. I will take my words back only if it is reliably known / proven that the materials about this operation are declassified and available for free review. Until then, it's all bullshit.
  23. BAI
    +3
    April 12 2021 17: 08
    Some details are missing.
    In response, the State Security Committee (KGB) captured a relative
    Hezbollah leader. As one of the measures adopted by the anti-terrorism
    plan, the KGB “castrated him, shoved the severed sex glands into his
    mouth, shot him in the head and sent his body to a terrorist
    Hezbollah organizations. The corpse was accompanied by an accompanying text explaining
    that other members of God's Party will end their lives in the same way if
    three Soviet diplomats will not be released. "



    Hostages.
  24. -2
    April 12 2021 17: 19
    Quote: alpamys
    Concern was not expressed then.

    You are exaggerating the strength of the USSR too much. Even from this article, it is clear that some tried to wipe their feet about the USSR. Of course, the USSR had the resources to put in place the presumptuous ones, but this does not mean that they did not exist. For example, during the time of the all-powerful Stalin, VI, the ships of the USSR or with cargo for the USSR were confiscated and no one felt reverence for the USSR. Even the fact that Operation Unthinkable was planned, the nuclear attack of the USSR, immediately after the war, also speaks of this. Damansky, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, many examples can be cited.
    Give us now the economic might of the USSR, I think now the actions would not be bad either.
  25. 0
    April 12 2021 19: 13
    A couple of weeks after the release of our diplomats in Beirut, the USSR Central Television showed the film “20 minutes in Lebanon” in the “Film Travelers Club” program.


    How the shooting went - recalls Ivan Lukashev.

    One morning General Shubkin was summoned to the chief military adviser, then they called me too. On the balcony of the Chief Counselor's office, I saw Farid Seiful-Mulyukov, a correspondent for Soviet radio and television, a well-known political commentator. An unknown person stood with him, as it turned out later, also our correspondent for radio and television in the Middle East, Andrei Rogov (surname has been changed. - I.L.). I didn’t hear the whole conversation, but when the general came up to me, I realized that the Chief Advisor hadn’t said anything good to them. Then General Shubkin explained that we had been ordered to insure the work of the television workers who needed to rent the temple in Baalbek.


    Read more -

    https://m.mywebs.su/blog/history/9717/

    Shl. Strange, but the text mentions that Andropov gave the order to Vympel. Most likely a mistake by the author (or distortion during further publication).
  26. +1
    April 12 2021 19: 48
    There is doubt that this accordion corresponds to reality. Wrong people, you know ...
  27. +2
    April 12 2021 22: 33
    And you can ask Mr. Writer - what is an assassin ?! Ass is an ass translated from English. Writers ... About the bunny ...
  28. 0
    April 12 2021 23: 38
    Interestingly, Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov from the grave gave the order in 1985 if he died on February 9, 1984.
  29. +3
    April 13 2021 08: 55
    Yes, in this world, only strength is respected. Chewing snot is always a disaster.
  30. +1
    April 13 2021 10: 45
    All this looks like a modern mythology about the omnipotent special forces. The authorship of Mrs. Frolova all the more speaks in favor of this, such myths are just in her part, drags them to VO.
    There is a completely different description of this story from one of the participants - Colonel Yuri Perfiliev, the then resident of Soviet intelligence in Lebanon - he is in the third picture from the left. And this version has been known for at least twenty years. The real events in it are simpler and without the cinematic polish - and that's why they seem more real ...
    - Not so long ago they showed a film about our special forces, which says that it was the special forces who freed the hostages in Lebanon. But the special forces did not take any part in that operation ...

    God knows what was going on in Beirut at that time, but it was for political reasons that the Soviets were not touched, although they were robbed like everyone else.
    At first, we assumed that this was just another and ordinary robbery: only then in Beirut 25 or 28 cars were taken away from us. Later it turned out: the seizure .... At first we had a shock: never before our people in Lebanon were touched by any of the parties! When we called the Lebanese Foreign Ministry, they were terribly surprised: “What kind of abduction? What are the hostages? Have you taken hostages ?! You are on excellent terms with everyone! "

    And there the kidnappers have already appeared: the completely unknown Islamic organization "Forces of Khaled bin el-Walid".

    Arafat got involved, although he was initially unaware of the operation.
    he called me from Tunisia: “You are our friends, and we cannot leave you in trouble. We have already taken the necessary measures, paid the ransom, and your people will soon be free! I am sending you two of my people who will be useful in this matter. I have known them for a long time, they are tough guys. One of them is Imad Mughniye, the second is called Hajj. " I even shuddered when I heard their names: the organizers of the kidnapping as representatives of Arafat! So think after that, on whose side he is. And then there was a telegram from the Center, signed by my head of the department: the release of the hostages must necessarily take place through Arafat, or at least with his participation.

    Then I was very annoyed with a colleague: I made a career out of establishing "special relations" with Arafat and now I am trying to prove to the KGB leadership that only he will help us.

    How were the hostages released?
    Very simply, they fulfilled the demands of the terrorists.
    - But in the end the terrorists won - their main demands were met, weren't they? (Moscow put pressure on Damascus, and Hafez Assad, gritting his teeth and grudgingly, stopped the military operation in northern Lebanon. - V.V.)

    - .... Terrorists, as a rule, are desperate people, frostbitten, and can do anything. ... Terror achieves its goal, because no civilized state can afford to leave its citizens in trouble to the mercy of fate. And it goes to meet the terrorists. Because it is necessary to save people's lives.

    The same thing happened here. We were told: “We will shoot the hostages one at a time, if you don’t do this, this and that”. And we did, we did everything, because we had no confidence that they would not kill, especially after Katkov's death.

    How was the assault?
    - Did we have the opportunity to use forceful methods, special forces, the same "Vympel" group of the KGB PGU?

    - It is useless, and even so it is impossible to work in another country. It's only in a movie with Chuck Norris that Americans can demonstrate such miracles, prove that they can do everything and everywhere ... well, special forces cannot just take and leave for a country in which we do not have some broader military presence ....
    Therefore, we took a different path: we applied the method of forceful pressure, but not ourselves, so as not to get dirty, but by the forces of our friends - the Druze, the formations of Walid Jumblatt. ... We resolved the threat of storming the Soviet embassy just with their help: the jumblattists sent five tanks, machine gunners to the embassy, ​​equipped firing positions, checkpoints. Our "opponents" took the hint, and the assault did not take place.

    about attacks on terrorists
    The issue of a raid on the prison where the hostages were held was considered, but we came to the conclusion that the assault group would not even reach the walls of the building, they would shoot from every window ... at the very first stage, a very successful event happened for us: literally right after the abduction one of the kidnappers and the brother of the other were killed. It was just luck. They were part of an armed group, got into a raid on duty, ran somewhere, fired back. In general, they misbehaved. Perished. Accident...

    And the bandits-kidnappers immediately decided that we all knew and thus began to deal with them on the sly - two of their people were killed at once under strange circumstances ... We did not deny our involvement. But the funny thing is that at that time we did not even know those who kidnapped ours. Only a little later we figured it out, found out the names ...

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2289302
    1. 0
      8 May 2021 14: 45
      also an honest storyteller :) either he shudders at the names named by Arafat, or he still did not know those who kidnapped ...
      1. 0
        8 May 2021 14: 59
        No, everything is correct there
        at the very first stage, a very successful event happened for us: literally right after the abduction, one of the kidnappers and the brother of the other were killed ... a little later we figured it out, learned the names

        And Arafat called much later.
  31. 0
    April 13 2021 12: 18
    Repeatedly read about this story, usually there still appeared the severed heads of terrorists. As it was there, in fact, we are alike and will never know.
  32. +2
    April 13 2021 14: 28
    just like children. after the civil war in Lebanon with a fierce mutual massacre, after the Lebanese war, constant killings, etc. ...
    Mugniya and the company could be intimidated by someone's cut eggs. yeah. by tomorrow
    the embassy would have brought a Soviet diplomat
    in the same condition. fulfilled what they demanded
    the kidnappers got theirs back.
    by the way, the son of Mugnia with the beautiful name Jihad
    met with an Israeli missile in 2016.
  33. 0
    April 14 2021 10: 46
    All right. But, as I read, the weakness of the leadership can be traced, which puts (pours money) into those people who then have to be influenced by special forces.
    Here's another example - The assault on Amin's palace in Afghanistan:
    1. He was poisoned (by our)
    2. He was saved by a doctor (ours)
    3. The palace was taken by storm (Ours)


    Costs, losses .......
  34. 0
    April 15 2021 05: 37
    The credibility of these stories is like the adventures of Stirlitz. The grandfather monetizes the past fame. The humanism of domestic bosses was and is too abstract, until it concerns them personally. After the escape of Bogdan Stashinsky, they feared acute actions to the point of incontinence, and the possibility of convincing Gorbachev was ruled out in principle.
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  36. 0
    April 19 2021 14: 39
    The author heard only some of the data, and the details were simply invented to make it interesting. It was all wrong. Thank God, many of the characters are still alive.
  37. 0
    April 24 2021 21: 36
    ".... In addition, it was discovered that the attack on the Soviet diplomatic mission was ordered by the radical Shiite movement in Lebanon Hezbollah (an organization banned in the Russian Federation)." how they go to their home!
    "... Recognized as a terrorist organization in Canada, the USA, Israel and Egypt, the League of Arab States (since March 2016 [5]), in the Gulf countries [6] [7], and also partially in the EU [8], Australia and Great Britain ... "- you are not on this list, gentlemen, just as there are no those who do not recognize Hamas on the list. You have good friends, you will go far with them ...
  38. 0
    April 28 2021 17: 41
    In 1985, it was necessary to sever relations between the USSR and the Arab terrorists.
  39. +1
    April 28 2021 20: 45
    From time to time, speculations appear in the Western press that Vympel allegedly staged an almost mass terror in Beirut, killing relatives of the kidnappers one after another. It didn't actually happen[i] [/ i]. But the commandos acted from a position of strength.
    “There was a serious psychological impact on the leaders of the militants who stole our citizens.

    And all the fantasies about murder are now inflated by the Israeli special services and TOPVAR is ashamed to post this nonsense.
    The goal of the Israelis is to discredit Hezbollah. Since they understand that in response to Georgia's assistance in killing our peacekeepers, in response to ISIS assistance, in response to Azerbaijan's assistance in the Karabakh attack, we will also respond with Hezbollah's assistance. Thus, they want to discredit the actions of the leadership of our country, which the Israelis do not like.
  40. 0
    8 May 2021 14: 41
    fabulous fantasies of KGB veterans.
    The whole story was muddied up by "American friends" in order to cover up their agent Spirin. Who panicked that Katkov might suspect him of betrayal (something happened to them, that Spirin decided that he had betrayed himself). The operation was carried out on behalf of some "Palestinians". Arafat did not conduct any harsh conversations, he, like other leaders of the PLO, was completely unaware of who and what. In the process of solving the problem, the Soviet "employees" turned through agents for help to the "locals", and they helped, shooting a couple of horsemen from the environment of the Lebanese circus Hyena, which had appeared out of nowhere.
  41. 0
    26 May 2021 17: 19
    but now there are no eggs and only partners!