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The Ministry of Defense creates the first unit equipped with shock robotic systems

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The Ministry of Defense creates the first unit equipped with shock robotic systems

The Ministry of Defense is creating the first unit in the Russian army equipped with shock robotic systems. This was reported by the press service of the military department.


The first experimental subdivision, equipped with Uran-9 complexes, is being created on the basis of one of the research centers of the Ministry of Defense. Initially, it will deal with the development of methods and forms of using such units, then on the basis of the center will begin training personnel for the use of the Uran-9 complexes and others, the delivery of which to the troops has not yet begun.

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will create the first unit with strike robots, which will include five Uran-9 robotic systems or 20 combat vehicles

- said the chief of the main headquarters of the Ground Forces Vasily Tonkoshkurov.

Previously, the Uran-9 complexes were used only individually. The Uran-9 complex was adopted by the Russian army in 2016, however, during the experimental combat operation of the complex, deficiencies in control, mobility, firepower, reconnaissance and observation functions were discovered. After the modernization, the complex entered state tests, which ended in 2020.

The Uran-9 complex includes four tracked combat vehicles with remote control, a control point and transport for their delivery. The basic armament of combat vehicles consists of an automatic 30-mm cannon 2A72 and a coaxial 7,62-mm machine gun, anti-tank guided missiles "Attack" and a jet flamethrower "Shmel". Depending on the tasks performed, the complex can be additionally armed with MANPADS.
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  1. SaLaR
    SaLaR April 9 2021 17: 37
    +10
    Planet Earth ... there are no animals ... no people ... Inhabited by robots ... bully
    1. Berber
      Berber April 9 2021 17: 39
      +3
      Some kind of post-apocalyptic picture is obtained. How creepy
    2. Sofa batyr
      Sofa batyr April 10 2021 03: 46
      +5
      Quote: SaLaR
      Planet Earth ... there are no animals ... no people ... Inhabited by robots ...

      The Ministry of Defense is creating the first unit in the Russian army equipped with shock robotic systems.


      Puzzling one - Why do our robotic fighters, at the Victory Parade on Red Square, do not go under their own power, but are transported on trailers?

      Agree that "independent" passage of robots would be much more impressive and effective than their transportation and demonstration ...
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo April 10 2021 07: 49
        +13
        So it is and for some reason they carry rockets, although their flight over the square would be a more impressive sight.
      2. Thomas N.
        Thomas N. April 10 2021 16: 57
        -2
        Quote: Divan-batyr
        Puzzling one - Why do our robotic fighters, at the Victory Parade on Red Square, do not go under their own power, but are transported on trailers?
        Agree that "independent" passage of robots would be much more impressive and effective than their transportation and demonstration ...

        Imagine how "impressive and effective" it would be if during the parade the connection between this remotely controlled "robot" and the operator who controls it was lost.
      3. Intruder
        Intruder April 10 2021 17: 16
        +1
        One thing is puzzling - why do our robotic fighters, at the Victory Parade on Red Square, do not go under their own power, but are transported on trailers?
        Either the batteries are expensive (they save the resource of the motor part), or they are afraid to let their "terminators" go into the crowd, there are people in the same place and at the same time peaceful and their граждане bully , what if the radio channel "clogs up" and the terminator goes into the crowd of onlookers, and then it will be shown to the whole world !? repeat
  2. Eroma
    Eroma April 9 2021 17: 38
    +2
    Well, with an initiative! wink the first step towards the T800 has been made
  3. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 17: 40
    +3
    Good news. Full-fledged 1-2 companies. With this amount, trial operation can be carried out almost in full. The tactics of application and the composition of the units are interesting. What the control centers are based on.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 April 9 2021 18: 14
      +1
      I think about it too early. But in an amicable way it is good to have a company of such toys in the battalion.
      1. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 18: 21
        +2
        Quote: Herman 4223
        I think about it too early. But in an amicable way it is good to have a company of such toys in the battalion.

        Gorgeous for a battalion, hardly
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 April 9 2021 19: 30
          +4
          Equipping a T-90 company is hardly cheaper.
          But no one considers this a luxury. I am only interested in one technical aspect. This is how these machines are controlled. In theory, an air repeater is needed to control at a decent distance, and not to lose contact with the car if it drove behind a ravine or somewhere else.
          1. Andrey Korotkov
            Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 19: 40
            +1
            [quote] Rotu t90? Not today, not now, 2030?
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 April 9 2021 19: 58
              0
              I meant a tank company if something confused you. Equipping it is no cheaper than a company with such robots.
              And why should it not be now and not today? I think the time has come.
              1. Andrey Korotkov
                Andrey Korotkov April 10 2021 09: 20
                0
                Quote: Herman 4223
                I meant a tank company if something confused you. Equipping it is no cheaper than a company with such robots.
                And why should it not be now and not today? I think the time has come.

                Of course, I understood you, I was embarrassed that you propose to confuse the company of tanks even more (10pcs) with the control of unmanned vehicles, I foresee your question (remote control), but who, if not company, sees the real situation of the battle? hi
                1. Herman 4223
                  Herman 4223 April 10 2021 09: 51
                  +1
                  I mentioned the tanks only in the context of the price tag. The tank is not cheaper than uranium, that's what I meant. I offered to control remotely by robots. Uranus is a radio-controlled robot.
                  1. Andrey Korotkov
                    Andrey Korotkov April 10 2021 10: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: Herman 4223
                    I mentioned the tanks only in the context of the price tag. The tank is not cheaper than uranium, that's what I meant. I offered to control remotely by robots. Uranus is a radio-controlled robot.

                    Ok, let's close the controversy yes
          2. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo April 10 2021 07: 54
            +1
            Quote: Herman 4223
            Equipping a T-90 company is hardly cheaper.
            But no one considers this a luxury. I am only interested in one technical aspect. This is how these machines are controlled. In theory, an air repeater is needed to control at a decent distance, and not to lose contact with the car if it drove behind a ravine or somewhere else.

            Ideally, you need a full-fledged AI that can operate without external control.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 April 10 2021 08: 46
              +1
              Ideally it can. But how long is this ideal to wait? It is necessary to move what is now. Operators can be pushed very far into the depths due to repeaters on some unmanned aerial vehicles.
              1. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo April 10 2021 08: 53
                +1
                Quote: Herman 4223
                Ideally it can. But how long is this ideal to wait?

                So, equip with imperfect AI.
                Take the algorithms of an unmanned taxi, finish a little for shooters - and you're done.
                1. Thomas N.
                  Thomas N. April 10 2021 17: 13
                  -1
                  Quote: Narak-zempo
                  Quote: Herman 4223
                  Ideally it can. But how long is this ideal to wait?

                  So, equip with imperfect AI.
                  Take the algorithms of an unmanned taxi, finish a little for shooters - and you're done.

                  After equipping this robot with "imperfect AI, finished for shooters", it will have to be released on the battlefield in splendid isolation, in extreme cases in the company of the same robots, because their soldiers will be afraid of him more than enemies laughing
                  1. Narak-zempo
                    Narak-zempo April 10 2021 19: 17
                    +1
                    Quote: Thomas N.
                    After equipping this robot with "imperfect AI, finished for shooters", it will have to be released on the battlefield in splendid isolation, in extreme cases in the company of the same robots, because their soldiers will be afraid of him more than enemies

                    AI can be made self-learning.
                    1. Thomas N.
                      Thomas N. April 11 2021 08: 34
                      0
                      Quote: Narak-zempo
                      Quote: Thomas N.
                      After equipping this robot with "imperfect AI, finished for shooters", it will have to be released on the battlefield in splendid isolation, in extreme cases in the company of the same robots, because their soldiers will be afraid of him more than enemies

                      AI can be made self-learning.

                      Of course you can, but before the AI ​​"learns" to distinguish its soldiers from enemies, how many times will it make a mistake with the corresponding consequences for its own? It will not work to teach AI at the training ground, because the composition of your unit is changing all the time and after each replenishment of personnel, you will have to send a platoon to the exercises again so that the AI ​​remembers all newcomers: in person, in shape, and in behavior. And if you send a robot with AI to the rear of the enemy (as you should do, because there are no own ones), then there is no one to learn on - all the enemies. What remains is the widespread introduction of "friend or foe" systems for each soldier, until this is not the case for ground robots with AI.
          3. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 10 2021 15: 49
            0
            Quote: Herman 4223
            I am only interested in one technical aspect. This is how these machines are controlled. In theory, an air repeater is needed
            In general, the company command post should be located up to 800 meters from the front edge, it is unlikely that the operators will be further away.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 April 10 2021 17: 00
              +1
              As part of the company, these things will be vryatli. Most likely it will first be a battalion or company as part of a brigade or regiment. Over time, it can reach the level of the battalion.
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U April 10 2021 17: 10
                0
                Quote: Herman 4223
                Most likely it will first be a battalion or company as part of a brigade or regiment
                This is a means of strengthening the lower level, the company level is just.
          4. Intruder
            Intruder April 10 2021 17: 19
            0
            In theory, an air repeater is needed to control at a decent distance, and not to lose contact with the car if it drove behind a ravine or somewhere else.
            up to 750 meters over a protected radio channel (an interesting "forest" of antenna-feeder rod elements, not patches, but pins ...), somewhere in the network there was information about tests and problems with a radio channel, which had already been modernized more than once, in a rocky desert SAR, earlier ...!
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 April 10 2021 18: 37
              +2
              There is information on the network about the problem.
              Here someone shared a link.
              But in my opinion this is more like stuffing than the truth. If such problems were in reality, now they would not create a whole unit equipped with such machines in the amount of two dozen.
      2. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 18: 22
        0
        No, not early, just right. A reinforcement company in a motorized rifle battalion is quite a logical decision.
        The states offer a control point in an armored personnel carrier / infantry fighting vehicle. If I understood correctly: 2 crew of a combat vehicle, 2-3 UAV operators, 3 operators of two remotely controlled vehicles.
        But we have, according to the article, one set is 5 Uran-9, respectively, one launcher (apparently from several machines) on them.

      3. dauria
        dauria April 9 2021 18: 30
        +2
        But in an amicable way it is good to have a company of such toys in the battalion.

        Remove the armament, teach how to dig, load and carry weights. This is 99% of a soldier's job in a war.
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 April 9 2021 19: 16
          0
          I don’t know exactly how this uranium works, whether it has a compartment for transporting goods or not. But the dump, like on a tank, can probably be added. For self-entrenching.
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A April 9 2021 19: 30
      +4
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      Good news. Full-fledged 1-2 companies. With this amount, trial operation can be carried out almost in full. The tactics of application and the composition of the units are interesting. What the control centers are based on.


      so there was already an attempt in Syria ...
      Which was softly, let's say - in full ...
      The report "Disadvantages identified during the combat use of the combat multifunctional robotic complex" Uran-9 "in the Syrian Arab Republic", which noted that:
      • When performing combat missions, the average range of sustainable control from the forward control post was 300-500 m in a settlement with low-rise buildings (17 cases of short-term (up to 1 min) and 2 cases of prolonged (up to 1,5 hours) loss of control were recorded) ...
      • When moving under its own power, low reliability of the chassis elements - support and guide rollers, suspension springs was revealed.
      • Unstable operation of the 30 mm 2A72 automatic cannon (6 delays and cannon failure). Untimely actuation of ATGM launch circuits (8 cases). Failure of the thermal imaging channel of the optical sighting station (2 cases). BMRK provides fire only from the spot, which significantly reduces its combat capabilities (weapons, sighting and reconnaissance devices are not stabilized).
      • During the study of reconnaissance capabilities, it was revealed that optical-location stations allow reconnaissance and identification of targets at a distance of no more than 2 km.
      • The fields of view of the scopes on the screens of the automated operator's positions are monochrome and have a low resolution. The OSN-4 optical station does not allow detecting optical observation and aiming devices of the enemy and emits multiple interference on the ground and in the air in the observation sector.
      Source: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/uran-9/ VTS "BASTION" AVKarpenko

      After which a bunch of heads flew, and the reassignment of the project management and organizers.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 19: 50
        +1
        Technical moments are not critical, removable, and these tests have been around for a long time. With the connection, the issue is not resolved yet. Therefore, questions to the control center, they must be in close proximity to Uranus. In an open area 1-3 km, in buildings or rough terrain up to 1 km, in a city 100-300 meters. In the United States, they plan to use Bradleys or Strikers as a base for PU.
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A April 9 2021 20: 17
          +1
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          Technical moments are not critical, removable, and these tests have been around for a long time. With the connection, the issue is not resolved yet. Therefore, questions to the control center, they must be in close proximity to Uranus. In an open area 1-3 km, in buildings or rough terrain up to 1 km, in a city 100-300 meters. In the United States, they plan to use Bradleys or Strikers as a base for PU.


          I am outraged by something else.
          In 2016, they reported "25.03.2016/9/XNUMX Tests of Uranus-XNUMX have already been completed, and it is entering service."

          How?
          Those who created it - did they even check "what they did"?
          Even if, even in a dry plain, when driving at speeds of 5-6 km / h, their undercarriage breaks down ... How was it tested and where?

          Loss of control at a distance of 500 meters - how is it? Have they ever moved away from him more than 10 steps? Stable communication range check - not part of the test program?
          How can operators have low-resolution monochrome displays?
          Chinese household FPV drones have a stable (720p \ 120fps) video communication channel at a distance of up to 10 kilometers with a minimum lag (7ms per direction). and a two-way control system. Since this drone flies at speeds up to 1 km / h. And the man controls it with glasses. All this video subsystem costs in fact 120-50 dollars in production cost.
          And here the military apparatus, worth tens of millions of rubles, does not have a guaranteed connection ..

          how can there be delays and complete failure in the gun?
          Our automatic small-bore cannons are some of the most reliable in the world ...
          How did the developers make it so that they have "delays and failures"?

          In general, I see that it was not even the students who were doing, but the "old cadres of the design bureau, sophisticated with experience and gray hair," who had never seen modern equipment in their lives and did not even have an understanding of what they were doing and what guidelines should be taken for the "starting point "...
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 20: 26
            0
            In itself, this is a step forward. There are really a lot of questions about the quality. The likelihood that these are the next Potemkin villages is very high.
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A April 9 2021 21: 08
              +4
              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              In itself, this is a step forward. There are really a lot of questions about the quality. The likelihood that these are the next Potemkin villages is very high.


              How great.
              For the salary of a computer vision specialist (Development of a subsystem for real-time analysis of streaming video using machine vision algorithms. Development of algorithms for detecting, segmenting and classifying objects using hardware accelerators (gpu, npu). Implementation of interaction with adjacent subsystems.) - starts from 200 thousand rubles.
              It begins.
              Foreigners in Russia pay 300-350 thousand to such specialists.
              Such specialists - with their hands come off the labor market.
              Since, for example, one of the tasks in one of the vacancies "mail.ru" - "a 330 million face recognition system operating at a speed of 1500 photos / sec;"- is not something super difficult for them ...
              And if you spend two hours studying vacancies with the tag "machine vision" in hh.ru, it just becomes a lot of fun ....
              And you understand the most important thing. that it all really works ...
              But ...
              In private business.

              And now let the management of JSC "766 Management of production and technological equipment" tell that they have such specialists ...
              If there were a few such specialists, which of course exist in Russia, otherwise they would not have been looked for in the labor market, would have worked for our Ministry of Defense and our military-industrial complex, then everything would be much better with us.
              But our military-industrial complex is ruled by "experienced and sophisticated personnel-designer" ...
              1. Konnick
                Konnick April 9 2021 21: 17
                +4
                Is this an office in Nakhabino?
                I was there about 7 years ago for an interview, so they demanded knowledge not of the subject, but knowledge of the requirements of scientific and technical documentation for documentation in the defense industry. Very narrow-minded personalities, but with important persons ... what did Lavrov say there laughing
              2. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 21: 21
                +2
                I work in software development, somewhere 2-3 years ago government officials entered the programmers market very strongly. They have money like a makhorka fool, they work stupidly, but they can do some kind of result.
                1. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A April 9 2021 21: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                  I work in software development, somewhere 2-3 years ago government officials entered the programmers market very strongly. They have money like a makhorka fool, they work stupidly, but they can do some kind of result.


                  First, let them learn to make technical specifications of high quality according to modern rules.
                  So that the specialists they need - understand what they want from them according to the result.
                  1. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 21: 33
                    +1
                    The key problem here is that they don't know what they want. The performers themselves come up with and propose. In fact, copying Western developments with domestic capabilities.
                    1. SovAr238A
                      SovAr238A April 9 2021 21: 37
                      +2
                      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                      The key problem here is that they don't know what they want. The performers themselves come up with and propose. In fact, copying Western developments with domestic capabilities.


                      That's what this is about.
                      Our military-industrial complex has no "starting point".
                      And if there is no starting point, then there is no formulation of the ultimate goal.

                      As in the joke: "from the fence to lunch" ...
              3. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo April 10 2021 08: 46
                0
                Quote: SovAr238A
                For the salary of a computer vision specialist (Development of a subsystem for real-time analysis of streaming video using machine vision algorithms. Development of algorithms for detecting, segmenting and classifying objects using hardware accelerators (gpu, npu). Implementation of interaction with adjacent subsystems.) - starts from 200 thousand rubles.
                It begins.
                Foreigners in Russia pay 300-350 thousand to such specialists.

                If there are no patriotically motivated specialists who are ready to do the same job for 35-40 sput (by the way, a smart salary by the Moscow Ring Road standards), then why not put a couple in jail and make them work for a grudge?
                1. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A April 10 2021 08: 52
                  +4
                  Quote: Narak-zempo

                  If there are no patriotically motivated specialists who are ready to do the same job for 35-40 sput (by the way, a smart salary by the Moscow Ring Road standards), then why not put a couple in jail and make them work for a grudge?


                  40 thousand is not the most luxurious salary, even around the Moscow Ring Road.
                  The taxi driver receives no less, at least in Samara when working 20 days for 8 hours.
                  And the 1C programmer is from 50 and much, much higher ...
                  Patriotism and wages are not related.
                  Do you propose to love the country through your own poverty?


                  But now imagine that you are a high-class specialist, you have a family, a wonderful little daughter, but some stupid major wanted to check in with the higher authorities, and he, yes, it’s you, he’s in prison and it’s you who work for the grubby.
                  Exactly you!
                  And no one will help your wife and your little, adorable daughter ...
                  1. Narak-zempo
                    Narak-zempo April 10 2021 09: 00
                    -1
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    But now imagine that you are a high-class specialist, you have a family, a wonderful little daughter, but some stupid major wanted to check in with the higher authorities, and he, yes, it’s you, he’s in prison and it’s you who work for the grubby.
                    Exactly you!
                    And no one will help your wife and your little, adorable daughter ...

                    Well, yes, personally, it's very unpleasant.
                    But anyway, anybody can be closed at any time for nothing. "Find" drugs, for example. Once I almost hit it.
                    And if they close it in the sharaga, then the great people were sitting in the same way. Bartini, Tupolev, Korolev, Charomsky and others. Join the host, so to speak.
                  2. Narak-zempo
                    Narak-zempo April 10 2021 11: 05
                    -2
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Patriotism and wages are not related.

                    Are.
                    Patriotism implies a willingness to endure hardships and hardships for the good of the Motherland.
                    In war - to risk your life, and in peacetime - to give all your strength, not demanding in return the spending of the country's resources to ensure a high standard of living.
                    Because if there is no such readiness, such a person can always be outbid by the enemy, who a priori has more resources.
                  3. Intruder
                    Intruder April 11 2021 05: 08
                    0
                    But now imagine that you are a high-class specialist, you have a family, a wonderful little daughter, but some stupid major wanted to check in with the higher authorities, and he, yes, it’s you, he’s in prison and it’s you who work for the grubby.
                    Exactly you!
                    And no one will help your wife and your little, adorable daughter ...
                    Purely personal, it can be seen and so emotionally written ...! ??? winked
                2. Thomas N.
                  Thomas N. April 10 2021 18: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Narak-zempo
                  If there are no patriotically motivated specialists who are ready to do the same job for 35-40 sput (by the way, a smart salary by the Moscow Ring Road standards), then why not put a couple in jail and make them work for a grudge?

                  Put where, in jail? What "same job" can they do there ?! "Special technical bureaus" (sharashek) have long ceased to exist. It remains only to call into the army to the "Military innovative technopolis ERA", there even the corresponding areas of work are "Technical vision. Pattern recognition" (https://www.era-tehnopolis.ru/technologies/vision/) and "Robotics" (https://www.era-tehnopolis.ru/technologies/vision/) : //www.era-tehnopolis.ru/technologies/robotics/). Here are just the results of the work of those forcibly "planted" will not be better than that of JSC "766 UPTK", but rather worse.
                  1. Narak-zempo
                    Narak-zempo April 10 2021 19: 20
                    -2
                    Quote: Thomas N.
                    Special technical bureaus "(sharashek) have not existed for a long time

                    It won't take long to create again.
              4. Intruder
                Intruder April 11 2021 05: 01
                0
                And now let the management of JSC "766 Management of production and technological equipment" tell that they have such specialists ...
                I think they will not tell, because the guys from the state secret service will knock on their door, even in front of journalists ... laughing
                But our military-industrial complex is ruled by "experienced and sophisticated personnel-designer" ...
                well, someone needs to "effectively" manage entire "departments", that's why wise comrades do it, but how effective they are doing this, sometimes difficult questions arise, in the era: "we have no time, to swing ... "!
                Since, for example, one of the tasks in one of the vacancies of "mail.ru" is "a 330 million face recognition system operating at a speed of 1500 photos / sec;" - is not some super difficult for them ...
                a standard task of image recognition, including an array of datasets with a base of 330 million, but this is not limited to the heuristic of optical signatures so simple at a speed of 1500 images per second, there are many "pitfalls", and not only in machine vision in the field learning ...
        2. Saxahorse
          Saxahorse April 9 2021 21: 37
          0
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          Technical moments are not critical, removable, and these tests were long ago

          How are they not critical !? You also say that this is almost a T-800 only limping slightly! wassat

          In the form that we saw in Syria, this is sheer rubbish! In addition, this junk will be hanged around the neck of the infantry, and even forced to save this piece of iron from the hands of the barmaley at each of his many refusals and glitches.

          Everyone understands that ground-based drones have been needed for a long time, only the abundance of "technical problems" has not allowed Western developers, and even more so ours, to advance in this direction for ten years.

          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 21: 55
            -2
            Here the question is what you expect, a remotely controlled machine can be made, the operators must really be very close to it. History as with a UAV will not work, ground equipment is many times more difficult to control.
            Place platforms like Uranus are special operations. Mine clearance, counterterrorism operations, work in the contaminated zone, etc. I do not see a place in the ranks of the "linear" units yet. They need universal platforms, such as these.


            So that the payload can be changed directly at the base, control by one person from the remote control.
            The main thing is to start making optional unmanned tanks / armored personnel carriers / bmp. So that depending on the task, people can leave the car or be in it.
            1. Saxahorse
              Saxahorse April 9 2021 22: 03
              +2
              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              Here the question is what do you expect, a remotely controlled car can be made,

              Here are just Uranus, which is discussed in the article, not a drop, not a remote manipulator, and not a modest logistics support platform. Uranium is presented as a direct application for the role of a striking machine in those very "linear" parts, and then it only remains to grab the head.
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 22: 09
                -2
                Even though something relatively good is happening, I rejoice at this. Anything better than news about the next entry into the troops of the unparalleled in the world BTR-82 and BMP-1 Basurmanin.
              2. Intruder
                Intruder April 11 2021 05: 05
                +1
                Uranium is presented as a direct application for the role of a striking machine in those very "linear" parts, and then it only remains to grab the head.
                On the other hand, potential varogs can be scared and budget funds can be divided boldly, and then there are titles and a buffet table. laughing wink ..., and then put the operator in and ride him in front of the authorities at the next check along the line of the landfill, profit on the face, a company of "armored vehicles" - isn't there !?
      2. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 April 9 2021 20: 01
        +4
        Do you believe this is a real car complaint? Why would she be in the public domain?
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A April 9 2021 20: 36
          +4
          Quote: Herman 4223
          Do you believe this is a real car complaint? Why would she be in the public domain?


          3-6 April 2018 years
          St. Petersburg
          VUNC Navy "Naval Academy named after N.G. Kuznetsov ".
          20 All-Russian Scientific and Practical Conference "Actual Problems of Protection and Security".
          speaker A.P. Anisimov, SNS, FGBU "3 Central Research Institute" of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
          The topic of the report is "Problematic issues of the development of military-purpose robotic systems."

          You can fully familiarize yourself here:
          https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3239351.html
      3. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo April 10 2021 10: 52
        +1
        Quote: SovAr238A
        so there was already an attempt in Syria ...

        So that was the prototype.
        It is logical that a bunch of jambs got out. That doesn't work, that doesn't shoot.
        That's what military trials are for.
  4. Andrey Korotkov
    Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 17: 42
    +3
    I wonder what kind of troops will be attached? (rhbz, engineering), division level?
    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 11 2021 05: 06
      +1
      I wonder what kind of troops they will attach
      Armored cavalry ... laughing
  5. V1er
    V1er April 9 2021 17: 56
    -2
    Reminded.
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 9 2021 18: 03
    +2
    So far, this is a training unit, but as they say, a start has been made.
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 9 2021 18: 05
    +1
    Will bring to mind where to go. As they say, took up the tug, do not say that it is not hefty.
    1. ROSS_51
      ROSS_51 April 9 2021 23: 51
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      Will bring to mind where to go. As they say, took up the tug, do not say that it is not hefty.

      What is there to bring? This squalor is immediately needed for melting. It differs from foreign developments like the robot Fedor from Atlas Boston Dynamics. It is clear that we do not have specialists and there is nowhere to take them, well, at least the money should not be spent on what will later result in the loss of our soldiers.
      For comparison:

      1. Intruder
        Intruder April 11 2021 05: 16
        0
        For comparison:
        as humor, but with a hidden meaning:
      2. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat April 11 2021 09: 35
        0
        Fsёprapalo! While we are bringing serial samples, the first experimental ones are being rolled there, but they are BEAUTIFUL AND MORE !!! Katz offers sdatstsa! laughing
  8. Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 9 2021 18: 11
    +1
    This robot needs to make a chassis with wide tracks, otherwise it will slip into muddy roads and sit on its belly.
    1. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 18: 25
      0
      Quote: Vadim237
      This robot needs to make a chassis with wide tracks, otherwise it will slip into muddy roads and sit on its belly.

      The road will be mastered by the walking. Development.
    2. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat April 9 2021 19: 29
      -2
      Apparently, where the BMP-3 passes, the Uranus will slip through there, so we'll see.
      1. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 19: 52
        0
        Quote: stock buildbat
        Apparently, where the BMP-3 passes, the Uranus will slip through there, so we'll see.

        No offense at BMP3, the suspension is active (not special), Uranus is just a tracked chassis (not special) construction battalion -Royal troops (1991-1993) hi
        1. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat April 9 2021 19: 56
          0
          I just figured out about the specific ground pressure smile
          Stroybat, the very royal ones ... Paramedic of a separate battalion 2000-2001
          1. Andrey Korotkov
            Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 20: 04
            0
            Quote: stock buildbat
            I just figured out about the specific ground pressure smile
            Stroybat, the very royal ones ... Paramedic of a separate battalion 2000-2001

            Quote: stock buildbat
            Apparently, where the BMP-3 passes, the Uranus will slip through there, so we'll see.

            Friendly, let's swap Uranus (forward), BMP (modifications) smile
            1. Reserve buildbat
              Reserve buildbat April 9 2021 20: 08
              0
              Uranus will go ahead anyway. He was created for this. So I think that its cross-country ability may be slightly worse than that of the BMP-3 due to the lack of a good gasket between the steering wheel and the seat, and technically even higher. laughing
              1. Andrey Korotkov
                Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 20: 12
                0
                Quote: stock buildbat
                Uranus will go ahead anyway. He was created for this. So I think that its cross-country ability may be slightly worse than that of the BMP-3 due to the lack of a good gasket between the steering wheel and the seat, and technically even higher. laughing

                It's not for me to judge, he's robotic lol
                1. Reserve buildbat
                  Reserve buildbat April 9 2021 20: 13
                  +1
                  I agree. Our business is to silently and quickly change the landscape. Manually laughing
                  1. Andrey Korotkov
                    Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 20: 35
                    +1
                    Quote: stock buildbat
                    I agree. Our business is to silently and quickly change the landscape. Manually laughing

                    As usual, roll the square, move the round. Our troops were one of the foundations of at least the country's defense, and at most a tactical offensive
                    1. Reserve buildbat
                      Reserve buildbat April 9 2021 20: 39
                      -1
                      In the "Military Acceptance" about the UMP muffins, the presenter said that "we can do something," to which the officer of our troops corrected: "we can do EVERYTHING." laughing
                      1. Andrey Korotkov
                        Andrey Korotkov April 9 2021 20: 42
                        0
                        Quote: stock buildbat
                        In the "Military Acceptance" about the UMP muffins, the presenter said that "we can do something," to which the officer of our troops corrected: "we can do EVERYTHING." laughing

                        : good drinks :
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 9 2021 20: 54
        -1
        In general, a four-track platform will be ideal for such a technique, the permeability will be 100%.
        1. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat April 9 2021 20: 58
          +1
          And how much will she weigh? How will it be managed? Why 4 caterpillars? I remember that not a single four-track sample has shown high cross-country ability.
        2. Andrey Korotkov
          Andrey Korotkov April 10 2021 10: 02
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          In general, a four-track platform will be ideal for such a technique, the permeability will be 100%.

          A joke? Or did you look in the future? lol
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 10 2021 14: 48
            -1
            This is a fact, given the peculiarities of our area and the seasons, and the construction becomes twice as complicated, but the permeability doubles and it will be impossible to sit on the belly.
            1. Andrey Korotkov
              Andrey Korotkov April 10 2021 15: 01
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              This is a fact, given the peculiarities of our area and the seasons, and the construction becomes twice as complicated, but the permeability doubles and it will be impossible to sit on the belly.

              The fact of the peculiarities of our area + seasons have long worried the developers (designers) of our country. I'm afraid that the adversaries have overtaken us -6 caterpillar-bladed laughing
  9. V1er
    V1er April 9 2021 18: 13
    0
    Source: TV Channel Zvezda. Uranus-9.
  10. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 April 9 2021 18: 17
    0
    The Ministry of Defense creates the first unit in the Russian army equipped with strike robotic systems
    I hope not the last, human resources should be protected in every possible way.
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo April 11 2021 09: 33
      0
      Quote: Vladimir61
      human resources must be protected in every possible way

      To save human resources, but still get rid of worthless human material.
  11. yfast
    yfast April 9 2021 19: 13
    -2
    Front view camera, 4x UAVs behind the tower, maybe at least the data and control channels are encrypted, and that's not a fact. How quickly will they be turned against us?
  12. SovAr238A
    SovAr238A April 9 2021 19: 30
    -4
    Quote from the news:
    The Ministry of Defense is creating the first unit in the Russian army equipped with shock robotic systems. This was reported by the press service of the military department.
    The first experimental subdivision, equipped with Uran-9 complexes, is being created on the basis of one of the research centers of the Ministry of Defense. Initially, it will deal with the development of methods and forms of using such units, then on the basis of the center will begin training personnel for the use of the Uran-9 complexes and others, the delivery of which to the troops has not yet begun.




    Wait!
    But...
    25.03.2016
    Combat robotic systems "Uran-9", which have no analogues in the world, are real soldiers of the future. The journalists of the Zvezda TV channel were the first to whom the military showed the latest development, which will soon begin to enter the troops - the Uran-9 combat robot. The new issue of the Military Acceptance program is dedicated to this unique machine. Prior to this, combat robots of this class were experimental in the Russian army. The tests of "Uranus-9" have already been completed, and it is entering service.


    But what about this:
    7 September 2016 of
    Two dozen combat robots "Uran-9" will enter the Russian troops by the end of 2016
    This year, the Russian military will receive 20 Uran-9 strike robots designed for remote reconnaissance and fire support of combined arms, reconnaissance and anti-terrorist units. This is reported by TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex.
    “By the end of the year, the troops will receive five sets of the combat multifunctional robotic complex Uran-9. Each set includes four combat vehicles in the form of a reconnaissance robot or a fire support robot, one mobile control center and two tractors. "



    but, here's a super news in general ...
    In 2016, Rosoboronexport will begin promoting the Uran-9 multi-functional combat robotic complex to the external market.

    Was that something from 2016 to 2021?
    dust in your eyes?
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat April 9 2021 20: 10
      +1
      What about your reading skills? In the article, however, it is directly stated that "Uranus" went through a combat test in Syria, where deficiencies were identified, which were eliminated by 2020. Now the improved "Uranus" is going to the army.
      In addition, then separate complexes entered the army, and now it is a unit.
      1. Runway
        Runway April 9 2021 21: 56
        -2
        Well, you also read superficially. This is an idea for the sake of an idea. Experienced unit of "robots" in the state in which he was "born" will play a regular MSR in a dry state.
        As a kind of amplification unit, it is meaningless.
        As a means of breakthrough / assault / reconnaissance (reconnaissance on oneself is possible once).
        1. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat April 10 2021 09: 19
          +1
          This is a reinforcement unit. Imagine a simple situation: an MSR attack supported by 20 30-mm automatic cannons, 80 ATGMs or 40 ATGMs and 40 "Bumblebees", which travel on their own, and not on a soldier's hump.
        2. Andrey Korotkov
          Andrey Korotkov April 10 2021 10: 06
          0
          Save the lives of soldiers? For you to dry?
  13. CYM
    CYM April 9 2021 22: 00
    +1
    IMHO For military combat in open areas, and urban combat, a very dubious idea. The sensors and antennas on this slow-moving and clumsy robot are a good target for a sniper, and they are clearly dazed by the close explosion of a shell mine. And in the city, grenades with Molotov cocktails will fly from the windows of high-rise buildings, and its passability over the ruins clearly leaves much to be desired. winked
  14. FrankyStein
    FrankyStein April 9 2021 22: 15
    +2
    What a mess you need to be so as not to stabilize the optics on this rubbish. Whoever did this should be dismissed without benefits.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 10 2021 14: 50
      +1
      Optics with stabilization are several times more expensive than conventional ones - take, for example, the cost of ordinary binoculars and with stabilization.