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In Korea, the presentation of the prototype of the newest fighter KF-X is held

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In South Korea, the presentation of the prototype of the fifth generation fighter KF-X in the industrial park of the city of Sacheon is taking place. Initially, the aircraft was positioned as a generation 4,5 (4 ++) fighter.


The event is attended not only by representatives of Korean companies and authorities, but also by Indonesian Defense Minister F. Subianto. The reason is that a joint development contract was previously signed between Seoul and Jakarta. The initial cost of the work under the contract is estimated at about $ 8 billion, according to the Korean press.

The presented prototype of the latest fighter, also called the KF-21, demonstrates a technological variant that in many ways resembles the already existing 5th generation fighters, including the American F-35.

In Korea, the presentation of the prototype of the newest fighter KF-X is held

The Korean Prime Minister noted that the creation of such an aircraft will introduce the Republic of Korea and Indonesia "among the countries of the world capable of independently developing a new generation combat aircraft."

During the presentation of the prototype of the newest fighter, it was noted that it will be distinguished by a high level of automation and robotization, and will receive a stealth coating. Missile weapons will be located in the inner fuselage compartments. Confirmed information that the KF-X will be single. Its combat training options are not reported.

At the same time, the Korean media are arguing about which generation this aircraft belongs to. In particular, it is noted that if a fighter receives stealth coverage, this does not yet make it belonging to generation 5.

Broadcast from the presentation of the prototype of the fighter:

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  1. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 April 9 2021 09: 42
    +4
    Is the engine American?
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 9 2021 09: 47
      -1
      Quote: Roma-1977
      Is the engine American?

      And the S-shaped air intake is in doubt.
      1. vic02
        vic02 April 9 2021 10: 05
        +4
        There is an S-shape. The engine is offset from the air intake.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 9 2021 10: 17
          -1
          Well, somehow the chassis does not allow the Korean to roam in this regard, and in the video, the OTs are prudently covered with plugs. And in your picture there is also an external suspension, so the picture is somewhat inappropriate.
          1. vic02
            vic02 April 9 2021 10: 24
            +2
            The chassis just doesn't interfere. The F-22 has exactly the same layout. Do you think the F-22 has an armament bay wink
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U April 9 2021 10: 29
              -2
              Quote: vic02
              The F-22 has exactly the same layout. Do you think the F-22 has an armament bay
              The Korean is much more modest in size. So the F-22 circuit may not work.
          2. vic02
            vic02 April 9 2021 10: 28
            +2
            And yes, he just has no other suspension, except for the external one. On the belly there are only semi-submerged missile sites, like the MiG-31
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U April 9 2021 10: 31
              0
              Quote: vic02
              And yes, he just has no other suspension, except for the external
              Well then, the claims to the VZ channel are withdrawn! laughing
            2. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 9 2021 11: 18
              +2
              Right. Earlier they wrote that it has no internal compartments.
      2. bayard
        bayard April 10 2021 01: 43
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        And the S-shaped air intake is in doubt.

        The S-shape of the air intake duct is a classic from the 3rd generation.
        I would not even raise such a question.
        Especially about the Koreans.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 10 2021 15: 27
          -1
          Quote: bayard
          The S-shape of the air intake duct is a classic from the 3rd generation.

          And are there many such third-generation fighters with an S-channel to reduce radar signature? And how much does such a channel cover the rotor of the engine compressor in a third-generation fighter? None, and very little cover.
          1. bayard
            bayard April 10 2021 17: 46
            +1
            Look at Mirages.
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U April 10 2021 18: 59
              0
              Quote: bayard
              Look at Mirages.

              The fact that this is a single-engine aircraft is nothing convenient? Maybe it's better to look at the Phantom or MiG-25 or Tornado or Jaguar? Or on the Mirage-4.
              1. bayard
                bayard April 10 2021 19: 55
                +2
                The installation of S-shaped air intakes began with the 3rd generation, but of course not at all. In the 4th generation, such a channel is already the norm and obligation. So it would be naive to expect the absence of such a banal thing from the 4 ++ aircraft. Believe me, Koreans are not stupid at all.
                1. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U April 11 2021 04: 50
                  0
                  Quote: bayard
                  Installation of S-shaped air intakes started with the 3rd generation

                  Only as a layout solution and only for single drives. So the Tu-154 can be recorded in inconspicuous aircraft, because it has an S-shaped air intake.

                  Quote: bayard
                  In the 4th generation, such a channel is already the norm and obligation.
                  It looks like you haven't even seen the MiG-29, the Su-27, or the Hornets with Needles in the pictures. Sorry, but this is the bottom.
    2. Guru
      Guru April 9 2021 09: 56
      +2
      Is the engine American?
      And it has two of these engines, so it's a cross between the F22 and the F-35.
      1. Machito
        Machito April 9 2021 10: 07
        -5
        So there is a cheap replacement for American Penguins.
      2. NIKN
        NIKN April 9 2021 11: 43
        +2
        Quote: Guru
        And it has two of these engines, so it's a cross between the F22 and the F-35.

        Rather, something between F22 and F-18
      3. dauria
        dauria April 9 2021 11: 55
        +4
        And it has two of these engines, so it's a cross between the F22 and the F-35.


        So there is already a Chinese J-31 according to this scheme and in such sizes. Everything is natural. Sooner or later, the gliders of the F-18 type machines need to be changed, why not reduce the RCS in not too radical ways? Smooth evolution and selection of a compromise between the requirements, to which a reduced ESR has been added. It is possible that the internal weapons compartment of most aircraft will sacrifice the rest of the parameters.
  2. Jcvai
    Jcvai April 9 2021 09: 42
    +5
    The prototype is not yet a prototype flying prototype, but good fellows.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 April 9 2021 09: 43
    +1
    In Korea, the presentation of the prototype of the newest fighter KF-X is held
    All the same, it will be ... a constructor, do it yourself! It hurts a lot of things that are not mine. However, I have not read anywhere that they position themselves as serious aircraft manufacturers ... a rational approach.
    1. vic02
      vic02 April 9 2021 10: 11
      +11
      They have recently not positioned themselves as serious electronics, either as car manufacturers or shipbuilders, and now they are world leaders in these industries. And the list goes on.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 9 2021 10: 18
        +1
        Well, the rational approach ... and they do ships, cars and electronics well.
  4. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 April 9 2021 09: 44
    +1
    4,5 4 ++, why not 4,7 4 +++?
    1. Russ
      Russ April 9 2021 09: 52
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      4,5 4 ++, why not 4,7 4 +++?

      five - - .... recourse
    2. Guru
      Guru April 9 2021 09: 57
      +1
      4,5 4 ++, why not 4,7 4 +++?
      Because he, 5 -1 laughing
  5. Rocj
    Rocj April 9 2021 09: 50
    +1
    I immediately thought it was F35. 1 to 1.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 April 9 2021 10: 02
      -3
      That's right, everything that is riveted under the 5th generation brand by the Anglo-Saxons and their satellites is strikingly similar to the F-22 and F-35.
  6. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 April 9 2021 09: 56
    +2
    This aircraft should not have internal compartments. At least before that, in all the descriptions, only missiles were half-sunk inside the fizelage. That is why Koreans do not refer him to the fifth generation.
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 9 2021 09: 57
    -5
    It would be necessary immediately on the 6th, or 7th ... Which is already trifling on trifles. Ukronazis created there)) wassat tank)) from garbage containers - so they also said that the 5th generation. laughing
    1. xorek
      xorek April 9 2021 10: 07
      -9
      Quote: aszzz888
      It would be necessary immediately on the 6th, or 7th ... Which is already trifling on trifles. Ukronazis created there)) wassat tank)) from garbage containers - so they also said that the 5th generation. laughing

      As you were immediately overlaid with minuses .. They are sitting here on duty bully
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 April 9 2021 10: 10
        -3
        xorek
        Today, 10: 07

        0
        Quote: aszzz888
        It would be necessary immediately on the 6th, or 7th ... Which is already trifling on trifles. Vaughn Ukronazis created)) wassat tank)) from garbage containers - so they also said that the 5th generation. laughing

        How were you immediately overlaid with cons ...They sit here on duty bully
        Oh yeah! there are presenters here))! Well, nothing, much more adequate - we will break through! wink
        1. xorek
          xorek April 9 2021 10: 24
          -4
          Quote: aszzz888
          Well, nothing, much more adequate - we will break through!

          Let's break through the sheriff, not the first time !!! soldier
      2. NDR-791
        NDR-791 April 9 2021 10: 26
        -1
        Quote: xorek
        As you were immediately overlaid with minuses .. They are sitting here on duty

        They have Morning Mail now. Reply to letters.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 April 9 2021 12: 51
          0

          NDR-791 (Artyom)
          Today, 10: 26
          NEW

          -2
          Quote: xorek
          As you were immediately overlaid with minuses .. They are sitting here on duty

          They have "Morning Mail" now... Reply to letters.
          Stamped, hard workers))! wink
        2. xorek
          xorek April 9 2021 13: 23
          -5
          Quote: NDR-791
          Quote: xorek
          As you were immediately overlaid with minuses .. They are sitting here on duty

          They have Morning Mail now. Reply to letters.

          By the way, it was definitely noticed in the morning, they usually "atrocities" here, and by the evening they subside ..
          laughing
          In the evening, complaints are sent out ..))) And they are afraid to answer ..
      3. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A April 9 2021 13: 06
        +7
        Quote: xorek
        Quote: aszzz888
        It would be necessary immediately on the 6th, or 7th ... Which is already trifling on trifles. Ukronazis created there)) wassat tank)) from garbage containers - so they also said that the 5th generation. laughing

        As you were immediately overlaid with minuses .. They are sitting here on duty bully


        Freezing nonsense - is it worthy of advantages?
  8. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 9 2021 10: 01
    +1
    Where will they sell it?
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 9 2021 10: 11
      -5

      Pavel57 (Gf)
      Today, 10: 01
      0
      Where will they sell it?
      They don't know themselves!
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A April 9 2021 13: 18
      +2
      Quote: Pavel57
      Where will they sell it?


      at least it is a joint development of Korea and Indonesia.
      plus there will certainly be sales to the countries of Southeast Asia, the Arab countries that cannot afford to buy the F-35 ...
  9. xorek
    xorek April 9 2021 10: 06
    .
    They all love to arrange a straight show, everything shines and is hung with flags ..
    Everything is simpler here in Russia, "presentations" are usually carried out in combat conditions .. And our weapons do not need advertising!
    1. nks
      nks April 9 2021 13: 06
      +5
      Quote: xorek
      They all love to arrange a straight show, everything shines and is hung with flags ..
      Everything is easier in Russia



      Quote: xorek
      And our weapons do not need advertising!


      Almost in eateries they advertise :)
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A April 9 2021 13: 23
      +5
      Quote: xorek
      They all love to arrange a straight show, everything shines and is hung with flags ..
      Everything is simpler here in Russia, "presentations" are usually carried out in combat conditions .. And our weapons do not need advertising!


      Well, how can you lie like that all the time ...

      "no, this is not a presentation, this is different ... you don't understand ...!"


  10. Operator
    Operator April 9 2021 10: 07
    .
    After stepping on the rake of the Americans with their F-35ABC, which can carry a missile and bomb load for strikes against ground and sea targets exclusively on an external sling with a complete loss of stealth (due to which the whole project was muddied), the Koreans cheerfully ran there with Indonesians with their cardboard layout.

    Double highly visible F-15EX - "no, we do not know" (C)
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 9 2021 10: 13
      -2

      Operator (Andrey)
      Today, 10: 07
      +1
      After stepping on the rake of the Americans with their "Penguin", which can carry a missile and bomb load for strikes against ground and sea targets exclusively on an external sling with a complete loss of stealth (due to which the whole project was muddied), the Koreans cheerfully ran there with Indonesians with their cardboard layout.

      Double highly visible F-15EX - "no, we do not know" (C)
      Now adherents of fi35 will trample)) you! Hold on! And the fact that the merikatos threw his accomplices for loot !!! with the 35s - 10000000000000000%
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 9 2021 11: 23
      +9
      "for land and sea targets exclusively on external sling with complete loss of stealth" ////
      ----
      For the internal compartments, the F-35 created the JSM stealth anti-ship missile system - Norwegian-American.

      "JSM is an aviation modification of the NSM (Naval Strike Missile) medium-range anti-ship missile, designed to engage both surface and ground targets at ranges of up to 500 km."

      Illustration:
      1. Operator
        Operator April 9 2021 12: 33
        -5
        NSM is a pot-bellied little thing, suitable only for shooting at motor boats.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 9 2021 12: 40
          +6
          She has a GOS with a video channel. KVO - 1 m.
          Can hit the most vulnerable points of the ship: radars, antennas,
          command room. You don't need a lot of explosives.
          1. Operator
            Operator April 9 2021 13: 27
            -6
            NSM has subsonic speed - therefore, it gets knocked out of the slingshot.

            Now Feng Shui anti-ship missiles are exclusively hypersonic Daggers, Zircons and AGM-183A ARRWs, and they do not fit into any weapons bay: either in the F-35, in the Chinese, in the Korean, in the Japanese, etc. etc. 5th generation aircraft.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 9 2021 14: 34
              +6
              "NSM has subsonic speed - therefore, it gets lost from the slingshot" ///
              -----
              She is stealth and flies low. It is easy to shoot it down from above - from an airplane with visual detection. But from the ship it is rather difficult.
              1. Operator
                Operator April 9 2021 20: 17
                -5
                Any object flying at a height of 5 meters (below it will stick into the waves) is detected by the ship's radar at a distance of at least 18 km - just where the centimeter stealth technology stops working.

                Plus, the radiation of the NSM on-board radio transmitter, which broadcasts a video image to the carrier aircraft, is already taking bearings at a missile launch distance of 185 km.
                1. 3danimal
                  3danimal April 11 2021 03: 14
                  0
                  is detected by the ship's radar at a distance of at least 18 km - just where the centimeter stealth technology stops working.

                  Tell this to those on the bridge MRK Monsoon No.
                  Where did the 18 km come from ??
                  The image intensifier of this missile is smaller than that of a stealth fighter.
                  Plus, the radiation of the NSM on-board radio transmitter, which broadcasts a video image to the carrier aircraft, is already taking bearings at a missile launch distance of 185 km.

                  Bearing by whom? A ship beyond the radio horizon?
                  1. Operator
                    Operator April 11 2021 07: 17
                    0
                    The case of MRK "Monsoon" is three centuries ago, then why not the battleship "Potemkin"? laughing

                    And sho, have the ship's UAV direction finders already been canceled?
                    1. 3danimal
                      3danimal April 11 2021 09: 30
                      0
                      And sho, have the ship's UAV direction finders already been canceled?

                      No, in the magazines "Weapons of the Future".
                      In reality, they were not even going to be accepted into service.
                      The case of MRK "Monsoon" - a third century ago,

                      So it's an elementary thing, it beats from a slingshot? (Did you personally study?) smile
                      There was an article about passing tests in the fleet: the targets are taken more noticeably and the height is set higher (from 50m). Simulators of even a small-sized Harpoon are not used.
                      And there is logic in this: it is easier to pass the exercises, they give prizes for this ..
                      1. Operator
                        Operator April 11 2021 10: 11
                        -3
                        Information from hydromayor is misinformation for you bully
                      2. 3danimal
                        3danimal April 11 2021 13: 51
                        0
                        Knowing how fire / emergency training (not at all) in production is going on, information about passing tests slipshod in the fleet is not surprising.
          2. 3danimal
            3danimal April 11 2021 03: 16
            0
            Let me remind you about the Monsoon tragedy again.
            The target flew higher, the visibility was much higher, subsonic.
        2. xorek
          xorek April 9 2021 13: 30
          -7
          Quote: voyaka uh
          She has a GOS with a video channel. KVO - 1 m.
          Can hit the most vulnerable points of the ship: radars, antennas,
          command room. You don't need a lot of explosives.

          Where did the sergeant of the TsKHAL have such knowledge on weapons, etc. (Alex introduced himself as simple at the beginning))))) What year has this surprised me? And the professor, including a "simple" Jewish resident ..?
          Are they trying to extort answers to our secrets, such simple guys who know Russian well and the specifics of our military-industrial complex? Oh well ..
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal April 11 2021 03: 18
            0
            Are they extorting from the couch guard? Information that is in the public domain?
            Conspiracy studies do not lead to good.
      2. 3danimal
        3danimal April 11 2021 03: 06
        0
        What happens after an explosion like this on the bridge or in the engine room?
        And if there are 5-10 hits?
  11. SovAr238A
    SovAr238A April 9 2021 13: 34
    +5
    Quote: Operator
    After the attack on the rake of the Americans with their F-35ABC, which can carry a missile and bomb load for strikes against ground and sea targets exclusively on external sling with a complete loss of stealth


    Operator, why are you lying again?
    Here is a launch from the weapon compartment of a JSM anti-ship and tactical missile with a range of up to 500 km



    here are the guided bombs of the GBU family (39 and 53) also in the weapon compartment


  • Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 9 2021 10: 11
    -4
    A beautiful plane, I think it will be one of the best
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat April 9 2021 10: 16
      +1
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      I think it will be one of the best

      Could be, they started development like this 20 years ago.
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 9 2021 10: 18
        .
        Except for the USA and Japan, no one will create competition for him.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 9 2021 10: 20
    0
    They will supplant devices such as F16, F15, F18, Su30, Su35 ....... but Sukhikh has a great advantage in the form of an independent manufacturer. And so, if both the Japs and the Turks are planning similar machines, then the concept has the right not to life. I just don't understand why they were saving on internal compartments for strike weapons? It's easier than the Q-Q missile bays .....
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik April 9 2021 10: 31
      -4
      Quote: Zaurbek
      if both the Japs and the Turks are planning similar machines,

      Turks yes, the Japanese make the 6th generation. Their F-3s are at NGAD, Tempest and NGF.
      Quote: Zaurbek
      only it is not clear why they were saving on internal compartments for strike weapons?

      Block 2 will have full compartments. I think they will change their minds to release Block 1, and immediately move on to the second.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 9 2021 10: 38
        0
        What I mean is that you can make compartments for the CD and corr bombs and not go into the complex control system and guidance for V-V missiles, like in a full-fledged 5th generation.
        1. nks
          nks April 9 2021 13: 08
          0
          What is this "complex control system and guidance system for V-V missiles, like a full-fledged 5th generation."
          There are no special control systems for the "5th generation".
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 9 2021 14: 55
            0
            And the fact that the rocket is in the compartment? And the GOS does not receive information about the target?
            1. nks
              nks April 9 2021 15: 02
              0
              hmm, it receives information about the target over the data bus. If you are talking about capturing the target of the GOS, then LOAL (google it yourself) is not made for placement in the compartments (although it may also be needed there) and not for the 5th generation. And in relation to the KF-X - they will still most likely export (and in any case can do it) the URVV. Yes and no, right there is a huge problem - they will mess with the plane itself more, if they do it at all
  • Basarev
    Basarev April 9 2021 10: 56
    +8
    Korea is a rich country, will pull. Korea is also a developed country, there are no technological barriers. So there is no need to worry about the future of this aircraft, it will take off just in time and go into production.
  • Charik
    Charik April 9 2021 11: 00
    +2
    Well, if the Korean car industry is not bad, it is possible with planes the same way. It's not from the Americans to buy.
  • alexeyrem
    alexeyrem April 9 2021 11: 05
    +1
    It looks like the Koreans were annoyed by the mattress makers - their own technique instead of the F-35
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 9 2021 11: 26
      +5
      South Korea purchased 80 F-35 aircraft
      1. Wolf
        Wolf April 9 2021 12: 23
        0
        If F35 was really good, Israel would have bought 100 pieces first and received but .........
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 9 2021 12: 42
          +6
          Israel ordered exactly 100 pieces.
          Got 25 so far.
          There is a long line of buyers at the F-35. All planes cannot be received at once.
          Korea, too, has yet to receive 80.
          1. Wolf
            Wolf April 9 2021 15: 39
            0
            Warrior, do you really think you didn't get all 100 from the queue? smile
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 9 2021 16: 06
              +4
              Конечно.
              F-35s are received by about 11 foreign customers.
              None of them received all the planes at once: they receive
              several a year. Take turns.
              The queue for additional aircraft is 6 years ahead.
  • Operator
    Operator April 9 2021 13: 53
    -3
    Quote: SovAr238A
    launch from the weapon compartment of an anti-ship and tactical JSM missile with a flight range of up to 500 km

    Don't lie: the JSM is not a rocket, but a racket with a range of 185 km, subsonic speed and a launch weight of 407 kg.
    1. lopuhan2006
      lopuhan2006 April 9 2021 14: 33
      +2
      If we take into account the tenderness of the current ships, then it is quite enough to disable a unit of the level of a frigate at least. The exocets drowned the British without exploding, and here it is quite a combat unit. Do you know a lot of ships in our fleet that are capable of shooting it down, or reflecting, say, 5-6 simultaneously subject? So you shouldn't call a very serious rocket a racket.
      1. Operator
        Operator April 9 2021 20: 11
        0
        Subsonic gadgets 40 years after the Falklands in commercial quantities go off the slingshot
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 April 9 2021 14: 28
    +2
    The lantern, the air intakes, the general layout, with the exception of the twin-engine, are very reminiscent of the F-35. As an "inexpensive" and compromise replacement of the 3-4th generation, it is quite an option. There will be problems with exporting without US permission. This means that the circle of countries-owners is narrowing to a few, but Turkey and India will closely watch this.
  • Ax Matt
    Ax Matt April 9 2021 15: 48
    0
    And in front of the cockpit, we spied a sensor: all over the place - a naked shirt.
  • Puppeteer 111
    Puppeteer 111 April 9 2021 21: 17
    -1
    in Korean media argue))) There are so many connoisseurs of the Korean language. You can publish an article))
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 11 2021 09: 48
    0
    To "recoup" development costs, it is necessary to sell at least 200 aircraft.
  • Tonpengof
    Tonpengof April 21 2021 20: 57
    0
    I think they will even do it, but I think the Americans will allow you to do it on it? You see, every true US country should use American weapons.