Vilnius avoided answering whether they are ready to support Georgia's membership in NATO without Abkhazia and South Ossetia

Georgian Defense Minister Juansher Burchuladze is paying a visit to Vilnius. The main topic for discussion with his Lithuanian counterpart Arvydas Anushauskas, as you might guess, once again became the topic of "Russian aggression" which has set the teeth on edge. One gets the impression that without this topic, the defense ministers of individual states have nothing to talk about at official meetings ...

According to the press service of the ministry, Dzhuansher Burchuladze "expressed words of support" from the head of the Ministry of National Defense Arvydas Anushauskas.

Lithuanian minister:

We see how Russia uses political instability in neighboring countries to disrupt integration processes. We hope that the situation in the internal politics of Sakartvelo (now, at the request of Tbilisi, this is the name of Georgia in Vilnius) will not harm the progress already achieved.

What kind of “progress” are we talking about?

And we are talking about Georgia's attempts to join NATO. In this regard, Lithuania is said to be ready to provide Georgia with "all-round assistance and support." At the same time, official Vilnius avoided answering the question of whether Lithuania is ready to support Georgia's entry into NATO without South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Let us remind you that de jure in Lithuania these territories are considered to belong to Georgia.

The head of the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense:

We are ready to share with our (Georgian) partners our experience in combating hybrid threats. We support NATO programs to assist Georgia in the Black Sea region.

To consolidate the Russophobic get-together, which the meeting in Vilnius turned into, Juansher Burchuladze went to the memorial, which was named "to the victims of the Soviet aggression on January 13". This is a reference to the events of 1991. There, the head of the Georgian Ministry of Defense laid wreaths at the monument and noted that "Georgia also faced similar aggression."

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[tihonmarine]

We hope that the situation in the internal politics of Sakartvelo (now, at the request of Tbilisi, this is what Georgia is called in Vilnius)
That was Georgia, then Georgia, and now it has become Sakartvelo. What will be the next name?

[Machito]

The next name will be Gryzland.

[mitroha]

Are any Russians aware that we are aggressive? And then the whole world knows, but for some reason we do not

[Dym71]

Quote: tihonmarine

What will be the next name?

If they unite with Armenia, then Giorgio Armani

[Alien From]

They are already LGBT ...

[Egoza]

Quote: tihonmarine

That was Georgia, then Georgia, and now it has become Sakartvelo.

Wah! But Tikhanovskaya also asked to rename Belarus, but she was refused! And then there is discrimination! (I really don't know for what reason)

[Dym71]

Quote: Egoza

And then there is discrimination! (I really don't know for what reason)

Women in Vilnius are not respected at all; in the European Union, they should be given a two in behavior for sexism.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

Wah! But Tikhanovskaya also asked to rename Belarus, but she was refused! And then there is discrimination! (I really don't know for what reason)

Wah, wah! They just want to forget their history, all these new limitrophes, everyone has one dream and the idea "We are already Europe, our past is behind us." Only now they forget that tazha Europe for 400 years was a patchwork state, which every 50 years is cut up and down. But now nobody needs extra blankets.
This is already junk.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: tihonmarine

Just wanna forget their history, all these new limitrophes, everyone has one dream and the idea "We are already Europe, our past is behind us." Only now they forget that tazha Europe for 400 years was a patchwork state, which every 50 years is cut up and down.

They will remember the next time someone will burn them in the ovens. ... .

Here's just one question. In a few years my son will be the commander of a platoon of the Airborne Forces. ON ORDER, he will substitute for THESE back. IN CONSCIENCE? After all the last thirty years ...

Frankly, I couldn't do that ... There is a lot of evil in me ...

[bk316]

Frankly, I couldn't do that ... There is a lot of evil in me ...

I will not say that I am proud of it, but similarly.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: bk316

Frankly, I couldn't do that ... There is a lot of evil in me ...

I will not say that I am proud of it, but similarly.

Yes, I’ve been suffering from this anger for the last 30 years. I consider psychologists to be charlatans, and psychology has a place to be, but as a science - pseudoscience. Persona non grata in one of the EU countries, two times here I almost sat on a bunk ... But I sincerely admire the heroes of the film "Little Alexander".
For the sake of the Germans, let the children ... The Hitler Youth would have finished off, but so imbued with the children ... Yes, I would have fought. But the way they are - like for Voronezh ...

I don't know what kind of compote would have brewed in my head ... Strawberry-cabbage ...

[Andrey Korotkov]

Wonderful film, Soviet and German actors, brainwashed werewolf teenagers with fascism May God grant your son a normal study and service

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Andrey Korotkov

Wonderful film, Soviet and German actors, brainwashed werewolf teenagers with fascism May God grant your son a normal study and service

Thanks for your kind words.
My son is only in his second year in Ryazan. But the success in "military and political" neither the grandfather-lieutenant colonel of the Airborne Forces, nor the father of the senior sergeant of the Airborne Forces does not disgrace. For this is how he was brought up. On the right movies and the right books.
"Servant to the king, father to soldiers" - I took him by the hand with these words to Ryazan.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: tihonmarine

That was Georgia, then Georgia, and now it has become Sakartvelo. What will be the next name?

Minassali.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: tihonmarine

That was Georgia, then Georgia, and now it has become Sakartvelo. What will be the next name?

Minassali.

And nearby, in three minutes, there is the Minastral. And on excursions to these two cities they will go with their ties - this is probably more delicious. I haven't tried it, I can't say anything about the taste. Rather, I'm one of those who made the pakol chew ... And nearby, three minutes away, they promised shooting entertainment. I wonder how they can surprise me?

[Ruslan Sulima]

That was Georgia, then Georgia, and now it has become Sakartvelo. What will be the next name?

And don't they call them ties yet? Or is Mishiko not allowed into his home country for this reason?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Are they still called ties? Or is Mishiko not allowed into his home country for this reason?

Mishiko is not allowed into his home country, he was even kicked by the Americans for faithful service and refused a green card

[Ruslan Sulima]

Mishiko is not allowed to enter his home country, even the Americans kicked him under the tax law for his faithful service and was denied a green card lol

And in Ukraine it got accustomed, here is an exact confirmation of the expression of neither the Motherland, nor the Flag. Although this is a minus for Ukraine, but they are stubborn, they do not understand ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Mishiko is not allowed to enter his home country, even the Americans kicked him under the tax law for his faithful service and was denied a green card

For what he fought, he ran into it. Now Mishiko is just a bum.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: tihonmarine

That was Georgia, then Georgia, and now it has become Sakartvelo. What will be the next name?

When Adjara, Megrelia and Svaneti leave from it, it will be called by the proud name of Tbiliselo-Otgryzello!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nyrobsky

When Adjara, Megrelia and Svaneti leave from it, it will be called by the proud name of Tbiliselo-Otgryzello!

But what can I say, they will again return to those times that were before the accession to the Russian Empire.

[Clear]

To consolidate the Russophobic meeting in Vilnius,

Only and remains "among themselves", because the representatives of these countries, in Europe, can no longer be seen. They have already gotten everyone, with their idle talk and worthlessness.

[Terenin]

Quote: Clear

To consolidate the Russophobic meeting in Vilnius,

Only and remains "among themselves", because the representatives of these countries, in Europe, can no longer be seen. They have already gotten everyone, with their idle talk and worthlessness.

All of these post-Soviet countries are used by the United States as "torpedoes" fired against Russia.
And the one who fired the torpedoes does not care what happened to them later, but is interested in the issue of damage caused by these "torpedoes" in order to win positions in negotiations with Russia.

[Sayan]

In short, sklikhosovsky - to talk, not to move bags, a Georgian scratching his belly with a can - so he was told, in general)))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sayan

Georgian scratch his belly with a tin can - that's what he was told, in general

Now there will be no Georgians, but there will be "Sakartvelians".

[Aaron Zawi]

H'm. And for Georgia it would not be the worst way out. They will not be able to return South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and joining NATO will undoubtedly help it feel more secure.

[Machito]

To begin with, Georgia will have to abandon Abkhazia and South Ossetia and recognize their sovereignty, and then it will be possible to join NATO in accordance with the Charter.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bearded

To begin with, Georgia will have to abandon Abkhazia and South Ossetia and recognize their sovereignty, and then it will be possible to join NATO in accordance with the Charter.

Is it? After all, Cyprus did not renounce the territory of Northern Cyprus, but it was accepted into NATO.

[Volodin]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Cyprus didn’t renounce the territory of Northern Cyprus, but it was accepted into NATO.

Cyprus to NATO?
Apparently, there was some kind of "secret extension", which is not known even in Cyprus itself))

[210ox]

They accepted Cyprus with claims to the territory of "Turkish Cyprus". Okay. So why wander around the world begging for support. Once Cyprus was taken with claims, then the Sakartvelos will be taken.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Is it? After all, Cyprus did not renounce the territory of Northern Cyprus, but it was accepted into NATO.

Member countries of the organization
NATO includes 30 states: Albania, USA, Belgium, Bulgaria, Estonia, Spain, Holland, Croatia, Iceland, Italy, Canada, Greece, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Latvia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, France, Romania, Germany, North Macedonia , Slovakia, Slovenia, Great Britain, Denmark, Czech Republic, Turkey, Hungary, Montenegro.

NATO countries in order of accession

1949 - Belgium, Holland, France, Luxembourg, Great Britain, USA, Canada, Portugal, Italy, Norway, Denmark, Iceland

1952 - Greece, Turkey

1955 - Germany (at the time of the annexation of West Germany)

1982 - Spain

1999 - Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland

2004 - Estonia, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Latvia, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia

2009 - Albania, Croatia, France (rejoined military command structures)

2017 - Montenegro

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Is it? After all, Cyprus did not renounce the territory of Northern Cyprus, but it was accepted into NATO.

Member countries of the organization
NATO includes 30 states: Albania, USA, Belgium, Bulgaria, Estonia, Spain, Holland, Croatia, Iceland, Italy, Canada, Greece, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Latvia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, France, Romania, Germany, North Macedonia , Slovakia, Slovenia, Great Britain, Denmark, Czech Republic, Turkey, Hungary, Montenegro.

NATO countries in order of accession

1949 - Belgium, Holland, France, Luxembourg, Great Britain, USA, Canada, Portugal, Italy, Norway, Denmark, Iceland

1952 - Greece, Turkey

1955 - Germany (at the time of the annexation of West Germany)

1982 - Spain

1999 - Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland

2004 - Estonia, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Latvia, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia

2009 - Albania, Croatia, France (rejoined military command structures)

2017 - Montenegro

Wrong means. It happens.

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
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Quote: Bearded
To begin with, Georgia will have to abandon Abkhazia and South Ossetia and recognize their sovereignty, and then it will be possible to join NATO in accordance with the Charter.

Is it? Cyprus after all, he did not give up the territory of Northern Cyprus, but NATO accepted him.

google to ... help you

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Bearded

To begin with, Georgia will have to abandon Abkhazia and South Ossetia and recognize their sovereignty, and then it will be possible to join NATO in accordance with the Charter.

And where is in the NATO charter a direct reference to some "unresolved territorial disputes"? Can you quote?

[Clear]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Quote: Bearded

To begin with, Georgia will have to abandon Abkhazia and South Ossetia and recognize their sovereignty, and then it will be possible to join NATO in accordance with the Charter.

And where is in the NATO charter a direct reference to some "unresolved territorial disputes"? Can you quote?

There are no fixed or rigid criteria for inviting a country to join the Alliance.
Moreover, the USA, Canada, Great Britain, Spain, Denmark, Greece, Turkey, Portugal, Italy, France, Slovenia, Germany are not only NATO military allies who have pledged to defend each other in the event of an attack, but they also do not forget. that some members of the alliance illegally consider this or that territory as their own.
It will still backfire on them.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Clear

There are no fixed or rigid criteria for inviting a country to join the Alliance.

And that's what I meant.

Quote: Clear

It will still backfire on them.

They will come back to haunt the fact that quantity does not translate into quality. Tumor-like growth of the alliance at the expense of peripheral margins is a regressive path. Such a security system is flawed and ineffective. The converts pursue their own selfish interests, which have nothing to do with collective security. Without reform and reset, NATO will start to rot.

[Clear]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

They will come back to haunt the fact that quantity does not translate into quality.

Definitely, they will not digest Ukraine

[bk316]

To begin with, Georgia will have to abandon Abkhazia and South Ossetia

Even from Kakheti, Mengrelia and Adjara, this is at least.
Then you can think about it.

[Brturin]

Quote: Bearded

and then it will be possible to join NATO in accordance with the Charter.

There are also old disputes with Azerbaijan over the David-Gareji complex

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

and joining NATO will undoubtedly help it feel more secure.

Yes, the Turks will not see that Georgia will join NATO.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Aron Zaavi

and joining NATO will undoubtedly help it feel more secure.

Yes, the Turks will not see that Georgia will join NATO.

Well, if there is a company of American and British troops there, they simply won't rock the boat.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Well, if there is a company of American and British troops there, they simply won't rock the boat.

The Turks will enter, drink Georgian "Kindzmarauli" with the Anglo-Saxons while eating barbecue. Georgia will remain for the Turks, and the Anglo-Saxons will go to the United States and Britain.

[Terenin]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Aron Zaavi

and joining NATO will undoubtedly help it feel more secure.

Yes, the Turks will not see that Georgia will join NATO.

Well, if there is a company of American and British troops there, they simply won't rock the boat.

The company is blocked, and ... with flowers to the airfield, without things.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Terenin

The company is blocked, and ... with flowers to the airfield, without things.

Yeah. And running into the economic crisis.

[Machito]

The Turks liked Adjara very much, and they will be against the entry of Ssakartavela (and you will not be able to do it), Georgia, into NATO.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, the Turks will not see that Georgia will join NATO.

And what are the Turks' claims to Georgia?

[Terenin]

Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, the Turks will not see that Georgia will join NATO.

And what are the Turks' claims to Georgia?

There are no complaints But until the twenties of the last century, such a region of Georgia as Adjara simply did not exist. The gorge of the Adjaristskali River, as well as the territories to the south and east, was called Muslim Georgia.

[210ox]

And what, the Georgians are threatened by someone? They themselves are ready to go away.

[VORON538]

And who was going to attack Sakartlandia?

[Xnumx vis]

The exit, but not the entrance to NATO ... When you give up the Golan Heights stolen by militaristic Israel from the Syrian state !! ?? You even force unfortunate women to serve in the army of Israel !! Um .. And not one feminist is not even trying to write a protest to the UN! They intimidated the feminists with their special services ... You are at war with women! In general, something like this!

[Machito]

The Lithuanians would be better off worrying that they will ship the Klaipeda port when Batka sends fertilizers to Ust-Luga.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bearded

The Lithuanians would be better off worrying that they will ship the Klaipeda port when Batka sends fertilizers to Ust-Luga.

Shakotis will be sent to Georgia.

[Dym71]

Quote: tihonmarine

Shakotis will be sent to Georgia.

Wah, skewer it!

[APASUS]

The Americans urgently need to come up with a new scheme of how to bypass Article 5 of the NATO Charter. To receive countries with territorial problems. But there are a lot of options - the military Schengen or the main partner!

[Mouse]

Official Vilnius avoided answering the question of whether Lithuania is ready to support Georgia's entry into NATO without South Ossetia and Abkhazia

There is no direct order for this ... so they are maneuvering ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Mouse

Official Vilnius avoided answering the question of whether Lithuania is ready to support Georgia's entry into NATO without South Ossetia and Abkhazia

There is no direct order for this ... so they are maneuvering ...

From their tack, already rippling in the gases.

Welcome

[Mouse]

Great!
Gennady, where can they go? An inadequate owner of a clear installation cannot give ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Mouse

Great!
Gennady, where can they go? An inadequate owner of a clear installation cannot give ...

Sleepy Joe, wakes up behind a puddle and gives

[Mouse]

Will he give ... just what will he give out? ...

[Cowbra]

Vilnius avoided answering

Uh-huh, I remember - "When asked how you were doing, I howled obscenely, got drunk, stuffed the face of the questioner, banged my head against the wall for a long time - in general, I avoided answering." M. Zhvanetsky

[Thrifty]

If Georgia joins NATO, they will not understand this in the USA, and if Georgia, then they will laugh at this in NATO itself, because the dwarf republic will be a usual burden for the freeloader of the richer bloc countries, and 2 percent for it will have to collect the entire NATO bloc for defense. ...

[NF68]

Lithuania is a noble heavyweight and will definitely push Georgia into NATO

[Jaromir]

without this topic, the defense ministers of individual states have nothing to talk about at official meetings

They really have nothing more to talk about. Military-technical cooperation is out of the question. Wrong weight category

[cniza]

To consolidate the Russophobic get-together that the meeting in Vilnius turned into

When times are bad for you, and they come, then don't whine ...

[Alexander 3]

Opponents of Nord Stream 2 fear that Russian gas in Europe has magical properties when burnt.

[cniza]

It looks like, but even more, read the United States, they want to rip off Europe by selling their gas and keep their economy under control ...

[Alexander 3]

NATA is intended for this, to rip rob take away, appropriate and do not care. Mattress covers have been doing this for a long time - international racketeering.

[cniza]

And every day everything is rougher and more impudent ...

[Clear]

Quote: cniza

The United States wants to rip off Europe by selling its gas and keep their economy under control ...

And they will rip it off and keep it under control.

[cniza]

They will not miss theirs for sure, but this is for now ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Alexander 3

Opponents of Nord Stream 2 fear that Russian gas in Europe has magical properties when burnt.

Yes, everyone is already accustomed to the fact that every winter Europe welcomes RUSSIAN GAZ with delight, and every spring sees off with Russian obscenities

[Alexander 3]

What can I say, in Europe, you can change your sexuality quickly. They are helpless women, then they become rude men, it is not possible to get used to. Who is next to you is always a question.

[Alexander 3]

I would like to add Angela Merkel is a real man. I mean by behavior.

[Alsur]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: tihonmarine

What will be the next name?

If they unite with Armenia, then Giorgio Armani

Smiled, generally drawn to the national idea of ​​the two countries. It is also possible in Armenia to rename one of the overlays into Cognac, in order to make cognac on the basis of the law.

[Clear]

Quote: ALSur

Quote: Dym71

Quote: tihonmarine

What will be the next name?

If they unite with Armenia, then Giorgio Armani

Smiled, generally drawn to the national idea of ​​the two countries. It is also possible in Armenia to rename one of the overlays into Cognac, in order to make cognac on the basis of the law.

And who are they going to sell to? Each other?

[iouris]

Georgia without Abkhazia - Sakartvelo. Berlin does not give permission to support Sakartvelo's membership in NATO. This does not depend on Vilnius. Besides, Vilnius region, Memel region ... and all that.

[Lister]

Vilnius avoided answering whether they are ready to support Georgia's membership in NATO without Abkhazia and South Ossetia

Vilnius simply does not have any instructions from Washington and Brussels on this question.