European press admits US-led operation in Afghanistan failed

The American authorities have once again announced that "due to difficulties in logistics" they do not have time to withdraw their military contingent from Afghanistan by May. At the same time, it is not reported at what point the US military personnel are going to leave Afghanistan.

Against this background, the European press is discussing the results of the American military presence in Afghanistan. For example, the Swiss columnist Andrea Spalinger emphasizes that if the fight against terrorism and the building of a democratic state in Afghanistan, announced in 2001, is considered the starting point, then these plans of the international coalition led by the United States have failed.

The Swiss press indicates that even 20 years after the Western coalition forces entered Afghanistan, more than 50 percent of the territory there is controlled by the Taliban terrorist group (* banned in Russia). At the same time, the United States is also negotiating with the group. Why weren't they led earlier?

Andrea Spalinger:

Afghanistan is still a patchwork quilt of territories and regions, some of which are ruled by the official authorities, on other rebels or terrorists. This has not changed over the years, and will not change now.

The European press admits that the anti-terrorist operation, which was announced by the United States after the attacks on the Twin Towers in New York and on the Pentagon building, failed. Terrorists from Afghanistan have not disappeared anywhere, the government, even with Western military support, does not control even half of the country's territory, democratic institutions are either not created or do not work.

Against this background, the United States should withdraw its troops. Will they withdraw?

Comments

[GREG68]

Well, they need to put money somewhere, so they stick out there. And not only there. There is a plug in every hole.

[Alexander 3]

Will they really leave and quit their drug business?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Alexander 3

Will they really leave and quit their drug business?

Nooo, let them sit until the spirits poke them up to the tonsils.

[Alexander 3]

Well, yes, right. The people cannot be defeated. The mattress mats brought slaves from Africa, and now they are kneeling in front of them. Probably now they need to take them back home with honors.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Alexander 3

Probably now they need to take them back home with honors.

Yeah, what a crazy person will go back to the monkeys, they now need honors in their new homeland.

[Alexander 3]

Let's see how they do it.

[Alex777]

By the fall, the "harvest" will be collected and will go.
They can no longer bring ~ 350 soldiers to Afghanistan, as they brought to Japan after WWII.
And with the amount that is there now - only to bear losses.
And their main opponents now are not the Islamists, but the Russian Federation and the PRC.
So they need to blame in any way.

[The black]

What a fiasco? The drug business is booming, the poppy is ripening. And the lives of ordinary Afghans ... but who is interested in them in countries with the best "democracy" ...

[Shurik70]

Quote: GREG68

Well, they need to put money somewhere, so they stick out there. And not only there. There is a plug in every hole.

Nope ...
Money should not be spent. You have to earn money.
Drug cortels from Latin America, tightly controlled by the CIA, supply the United States. This is order.
But there is no one Master from Afghanistan. This is a mess, that kind of money goes by, and even the markets are undeveloped.

[yfast]

What kind of democracy can there be in a primitive communal system?

[Reserve buildbat]

What a fiasco? The operation is super successful. The state has been destroyed, in Afghanistan there is a mess and anarchy, among which thousands of tons of opiates are peacefully growing, carefully collected under the supervision of mattresses and sent by military transport planes to processing, sorting and distribution points around the world. A very profitable economic scheme. Single losses of "defenders of democracy" (read "defenders of drug trafficking") are fully covered by profits.

[Cowbra]

It's just really loud, and in the press it is the usa that questions are asked:
* Afghanistan. 20 years, billions of dollars, losses, well, at least hundreds - the war has been lost to unsupported gangs.
* Venezuela. Beggar and close at hand, the special operation was thwarted, and demonstratively, by a beggar army. Up to the personal bodyguard of the president and an ATF officer, no enemy has been held captive.
* Saudi Arabia and Iraq - they cannot even defend themselves against shelling, not that in response to defeat everything and everything.
* Again Iraq - even ISIS - and they could not win, again the war was lost.
* North Korea - they tried to force political decisions by military force. Outright collapse.
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Do they even have an army with a navy? Or some high-likes and self-exploding Starships in peremogs? In general, they all asked ... have fallen lately - they really kicked their ass everywhere.

[apro]

Quote: Cowbra

they really got their ass kicked everywhere.

What is it? A new Russian bond? Americans do what they want. And no one can interfere with them. There is no such force today. You forget that they completed all the tasks. Introduced chaos. Weakened the state. Promoted their economic interests.

[Alien From]

You have formulated the situation correctly!

[Burbulator]

... and you probably know where these Recycling Points are?

[mojohed2012]

It's not really about "what to do with the money" and "when will it be taken out."
The fact is that the troops will be withdrawn from Afghanistan, leaving some kind of base and network of spies, but where will they be transferred? To Ukraine, EU or Norway? \

[rocket757]

if we consider the fight against terrorism declared in 2001 and the building of a democratic state in Afghanistan as the starting point, then these plans of the international coalition led by the United States have failed.

And sho with that ... Afghanistan confirms its reputation. Another "empire" climbed in and .. does not know how to get out from there, then ...

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

You misunderstand their task, it has not changed over the past 150-200 years. They hold the borders, not allowing Iran to occupy Herat, China Badakhshan, Uzbekistan Mazar-i-Sharif, and Tajikistan to expand, it is not yet clear in which direction. And, it seems, they cope with their tasks.

[rocket757]

Not mine ... thank God that only slipped from the side. What is there and how, it is already up to the specialists.

[Siberian54]

rocket757 \ The USSR, carefully without excesses (with dropping helicopters overboard to accommodate people), went out and left a loyal government that collapsed when the drunk, at the request of the State Department's friends, stopped the supply of hydrocarbons ..

[rocket757]

Quote: Siberian54

The USSR neatly without excesses ... left and left a government loyal to itself which collapsed

Again we return to why it was and why THROWNED, BETRAYED, what with such difficulty, sacrifices, was created ...
But, this is the past, and we still live or survive ... this is from which side to look.

[Siberian54]

So I'm talking about, too, why my taxes contain an apkash center in the Urals? Why not hold a referendum and resolve this issue (sarcasm, they will do the same with a referendum on the USSR)

[rocket757]

Quote: Siberian54

contains an apkash center in the Urals

Everything is clear there ... financing from abroad, from all sorts of different funds.
The center is hostile, it is financed by the enemies ...
equalize with the ground, the spirit of the enemy comes from him.

[nnm]

"Due to difficulties in logistics"

Most likely, either the Taliban did not transfer the entire amount of "compensation" under the previously concluded agreement for the fact that they would be released without hindrance, or the Taliban wanted more dollars.
Well, as an extreme option, they themselves want to stay close to the borders of Russia and closer to the source of opium drug trafficking, not giving a damn about the fact that their soldiers will continue to return to the States in zinc coffins.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: nnm

not giving a damn about the fact that their soldiers will continue to return to the States in zinc coffins.

And who in the states cares about this. The main thing is to shout to the whole world "Sash brings Western democracy to the world!"

[Siberian54]

For the third year in a row in Afghanistan, Americans have not been assiduously killed.

[nnm]

So they do not die because the United States signed an agreement with them and the Taliban are paid $. And now, it turns out that the US is not fulfilling the treaty.

[tihonmarine]

Afghanistan is still a patchwork quilt of territories and regions, some of which are ruled by the official authorities, on other rebels or terrorists.

Wherever they try to impose "Western democracy" and LGBT people, they always get a known result.

[Thrifty]

Is there really no free places for growing opium poppy in America, since they went to Afghan plantations, or is the local nonsense not as "torrid" as Afghan hashish?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

So they are not for themselves, they are getting pleasure for European partners and neighbors. Surely the nonsense gets into Iran and does not strengthen its statehood at all. And at home they are fighting off supplies from Colombia.

[Vadim Ananyin]

Some strange insight, they ran into their own rake in full.
They themselves raised these barmaley and decided that they would be controlled.
And they themselves spoiled the logistics for the sake of their greed, Europe put a lot of things for us to screw up in Afghanistan. And not the fact that the attack on the twins was carried out by the Afghans, it smells like the story of Colin Powell's test tube.

[Knell wardenheart]

Well, the main American strategy "bombing in the Stone Age and then invading and seizing control over power" did not work here - you cannot bomb a country that, in general, lives in the Stone Age, in the era of tribal relations. You cannot invade a territory that is damn relative from the point of view of views on the construction of a modern state - a shitty relief, a shitty border, some people are constantly rushing to and fro ... Finally, you cannot "seize control" where there are historical problems with control. It is also impossible to nightmare the Afghans with some kind of deprivation or sanctions - they live so badly and their "economy" is so archaic that most of the country will be rubbed with it.
Only Genghis Khan would have brought order to this country, using methods that the West, of course, will not use.

[Sayan]

A fiasco, this is when, before the wedding with a Jewish woman, instead of circumcision, he made castration))), and there they have everything on the ointment - drug trafficking is established and under control.

[NF68]

For a long time they figured out what they got themselves into

[cniza]

that if the fight against terrorism declared in 2001 and the building of a democratic state in Afghanistan are considered the starting point, then these plans of the international coalition led by the United States have failed.

And you asked them - do they need your democracy? you got the obvious answer, although you didn't ask ...

[agoran]

If we discard the media husk, then yes, the mattress makers were unable to gain control of the Afghan territory.
I will not even google it, I have a lot of money, and the result is nothing.
Penguins work according to a template, they bribed the elite, which is not very difficult, but Afghanistan is a slightly different country in terms of structure, it did not work here.

[Basarev]

It would be much easier to cordon off the border so that all evil does not break out. Or, even better, involve China there, so that it goes broke for eternal war, commits war crimes in its own spirit, loses face and suffers terrible losses. There are a lot of Chinese people, I don't feel sorry for them.

[vl903]

what kind of war crimes did the Chinese have and where did he lose face? interesting for self-development

[Basarev]

There are plenty of such examples. He cut Mongolia, having done everything in the Inner, mutilated unfortunate Tibet, Uyguria, again ... Nowhere in those parts do they like the Chinese, and for good reason.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Here, only the Chinese were not enough there!

[Jaromir]

Why weren't they led earlier?

They hoped they could win. But reality has finally visited them temporarily.

[Alexeevich0010]

The lousy troops of crap and tolerance on the example of the Afghan company proved the main thing !!! - to the level of the USSR, they have that in terms of the quality of troops, that in terms of building a peaceful life, that in terms of humanity and the fight against drugs ... these savages, these scum- never rise. IMHO of course

[Lister]

Against this background, the United States should withdraw its troops. Will they withdraw?

Withdraw troops and abandon their poppy plantations to the Americans in Afghanistan?

[aszzz888]

For the first time or something obga .. merikatos screwed up! Not ONE war unleashed, the mericatos DIDN'T WIN!