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Remembering Damansky: how not to forget the "forgotten battles"


Spilled blood - as a general to a general

In February 2021, shortly before the next anniversary of the armed conflict on Damansky Island, a rather lengthy and, to put it mildly, somewhat strange material was published in Nezavisimaya Gazeta. It was a big interview with retired Major General Vladimir Gorodinsky (Damansky Island: Battle on Order).

To begin with, our correspondent Ratibor Khmelev asked about the publication in NVO, the Hero of the Soviet Union, now Lieutenant General Yuri Babansky.

Remembering Damansky: how not to forget the "forgotten battles"

- Yuri Vasilievich, what can you say about this publication?

- Vladimir Ivanovich Gorodinsky used to be a generally good person, but some kind of wormhole started up in him, and from this he invents all kinds of fables, referring to historical facts and combat logs. He constantly writes that everything was different, different, but, how “otherwise,” he does not say. And when they begin to check, nowhere and never have this been.

General Gorodinsky (pictured), recently, unfortunately, also spoke on Damansky. I know him well: he is a military pensioner, now he is writing his memoirs. Wherever he climbed, all, frankly, traitors praise him, and we, the participants in the hostilities, condemn him, because we know the truth. I even talked to him on this topic, but everything is useless.

- Then let's once again recall those events in Damansky.

- It happened on March 2, 1969, on Sunday. The Chinese provoked a violation of the border, went out on the ice of the Ussuri River, began to bypass our Soviet island Damansky, demonstrating that they control our primordially Russian land. It is unacceptable. The outpost was alerted, and we drove to the place where the border was violated. The Chinese began to flee to their territory, showing that they were to blame, that they were afraid. But it was a trick that led us into an ambush.

It was specially organized at night, there were more than three hundred Chinese provocateurs prepared for an armed meeting with border guards. There were 32 of us. Five remained alive. The battle lasted 1 hour and 40 minutes. But we survived and won. The Chinese have fled from our island.

We have gathered our killed comrades. There were few wounded. This provocation was sanctioned by Chinese high-ranking officials, including personally the "great helmsman" - Mao Zedong. Therefore, it could not be defeatist for the Chinese. Although they rang out to the whole world that we were the first to open fire, provoked an armed conflict and are to blame for everything. And they only demand their territory, which we seemed to have once taken from them and behave in bad faith.

On March 15, the impudent Chinese "comrades" again rushed to the island, this time in larger forces. And again they were rebuffed. Because we defended our land and were not going to retreat from it.

Veterans answer

And soon after the publication on our pages under the title "Damansky blacklists" the editorial office received a letter from retired colonel Vladimir Telegin.

He is the chairman of the regional branch of the Interregional Public Organization of veterans-border guards (pensioners) in Moscow and the Moscow region. The letter was named open, reviewed and approved by the Presidium of the UPU MOO on March 24, 2021.

We decided to publish it in full - without comments and without cuts.

Open letter "Who are you with, General V. I. Gorodinsky"?

“Some researchers of the hostilities on Damansky Island, after decades, when many have already forgotten why, why and how it all happened, criticize us for the fact that the outposts, they say, were aimed only at the peaceful expulsion of the Chinese. And this is presented as a mistake. What else should we be aiming for? Really for use weapons? On the contrary, even at the risk of his life, at that difficult time, to do everything possible to maintain peace at the border, so that not a single shot would be the first to sound from our side. We had a peaceful mission. "

- Major General Vitaly Dmitrievich Bubenin, Hero of the Soviet Union.

Retired Major General Vladimir Gorodinsky, who has appeared in the media with an interview preceding the release of his book, is trying to question these words that are verified as an order to protect the state border. He is recommended as "the author of several books on the history of the Border Guard Service of the FSB of Russia" dedicated to the events on Damansky Island in March 1969.

The very organization of this interview leaves many questions, including its initial negative orientation. Setting the tone for the interview, journalist Nikolai Poroskov does not give a single name or name of the media, but uses a lot of general words: “some authors generally bypassed the question”, “abstract“ provocateurs who came from the territory of some “neighboring state”, “in a number of newspapers it was reported that on the recommendation of officials in Moscow and Beijing "," the reaction of the country's population to such a strange position of the official authorities and many central media. " It is understandable, because you would have to answer for your words, but as the saying goes, "he crowed, but at least don't dawn there." If he turned to the Border Guard Service or a veteran organization, they would tell him everything in detail and even show him at the Central Border Museum of the FSB of Russia. Apparently, initially information of a different nature was needed, and the source for this was chosen ideally.

I don’t want to draw parallels, but even in a short interview one can see “signature cliches” of V. I. Gorodinsky, which echo the introductory part: “it is not excluded”, “it is considered”, “they also assert”, “so in general terms”, “ my opinion ”,“ according to the author of the article ”,“ the Kremlin decided to play along ”,“ but to my surprise, nothing of the kind could be found ”,“ that's how it all happened ”,“ a closer study of documents that have long been known and have been reopened facts, led me to a firm conviction "," if you look closely "," with a significant degree of certainty it can be asserted "," in an amazing way "," one gets the impression "," approximately the same content of the record. " The sources are anonymous: "a group of border historians", "most scientists, journalists, independent researchers", "domestic historians", "historians", "some authors", "a veteran of one of the special services." The apotheosis is the phrase - “we managed to find on the Internet a photocopy of the“ Journal of military operations in the area of ​​about. Damansky March 15, 1969 ". After that, it became clear, as usual, there was no question of any serious approach.

V. I. Gorodinsky is the author of a libel on the history of the Border Troops of the USSR, published in 2016 with an intriguing subtitle "Little-known pages of the service and combat activities of the Border Troops of the NKVD of the USSR in the initial period of the Great Patriotic War", in which fascism is whitewashed, it is argued that the Soviet border guards themselves by their actions provoked Germany to attack, while from the outposts they, in his opinion, were withdrawn in advance to the rear, and there were no battles on June 22, 1941 with German troops and the troops of their satellites on the western border, and there were many other similar unsubstantiated reasoning. Unfortunately, one cannot expect from him an objective and honest examination of historical events.

It is no coincidence that after the release of his first book, two participants in the Great Patriotic War, members of the Moscow Veteran Organization, turned to V.I. Gorodinsky with an open letter.

The person to whom the veterans contacted did not consider it necessary or did not dare to give an answer. Mogilevsky M.A. - died on April 30, 2020, and the now living 100-year-old Vasily Mikhailovich Lagodin is waiting for an apology from V.I. Gorodinsky. It's one thing to write a lie, and another thing to admit it and apologize to the veterans!

To begin with, the retired general seems to be frankly complaining that “March 2 marks the 52nd anniversary of the Soviet-Chinese armed conflict on Damansky Island. The date is not round. But the 50th anniversary of the battle for the island in March 2019 passed almost unnoticed by the authorities and the media. Only in some regions did veterans remember this date. The Border Guard Service of the FSB of Russia held two events at the Central Frontier Museum at the level of a veteran organization. And that's all. " However, these groans are entirely false, and the data he cited are far from the truth. Their main goal is to attract as much attention as possible to their own person. The proof of his duplicity can be a quote from his article in the newspaper “Russian Border for 2012:

"... a lot of effort and money is now being spent ... on conducting" noisy "patriotic actions in the constituent entities of the Russian Federation ... dedicated to anniversaries ... Yes, all this is beautiful ... At the same time, we rarely think about how effective this or that event is."

What to say: "I changed my shoes on two legs in one jump."

I will not advertise the upcoming “epoch-making creation” and the published interview of the retired general. There is text on the Internet that you can read and understand what it is trying to achieve. I will briefly dwell on the main mistakes, there are enough of them in the interview.

A characteristic feature of the "literary and historical activity" of VI Gorodinsky is the desire to "creatively" and very "freely rethink" the events associated with the history of the Border Troops. This time he swung at the events that Major General Vitaly Dmitrievich Bubenin, Hero of the Soviet Union, who was a direct participant in those events, sets out with protocol accuracy on the pages of his book.

“On one of the cloudy February days (1968), the" observation post "of the 1st frontier post on the Bolshoi Hill reported that at about 10 am an impressive column of Chinese ... began to move towards the island. The outfit named an incredible number of Chinese, which was hard to believe ... We went out to the island and turned around in two lines, lined up a dozen meters from them ...

A harsh command sounded from the amplifier. The entire multi-hundred crowd turned in our direction. I was horrified. On the faces of the Chinese there was the very grimace of anger, hatred ... The angry crowd, brought to a state of passion by skillful mental treatment, strongly supported by alcohol, rushed at us in the next instant ... And so it began. Thousands of selected, healthy, strong, furious fighters grappled in mortal combat. A powerful, wild roar, groans, screams, cries for help echoed far over the great river Ussuri. The tension was reaching its limit. At some point, I suddenly realized clearly that something irreparable could happen. The decision came unexpectedly. I scrambled out of the crowd and rushed to our armored personnel carriers, which were not far away. He jumped into his car and ordered the driver, Private A. Shamov, to direct the APC directly at the Chinese. He protested, but he followed my orders. I did not realize why I was doing this, but I felt that there was no other way out. This was the only chance to save the situation. The APC rammed a dense crowd of Chinese, cutting them off from our soldiers. I clearly saw how, in fright, they shied away from the car and ran away. When they turned around, there was no one at the battle site.

I stopped the armored personnel carrier, opened the hatch. There was an amazing silence ... I suddenly realized that everything had ended well, that there would be no more fighting today ... We went to our bank and began to put ourselves in order, to provide assistance to the victims. From the Chinese coast, a military gas car with a white flag rushed straight at us. An officer came out of it. They were no longer disguised as "broad masses". I approached and asked what the problem was.
“We demand that you and your representatives, together with us, record the death of our four peaceful fishermen whom you have just crushed.
"Wow, a claim," I thought. I immediately reported to Leonov. A command came in: remove the Chinese from our territory, do not enter into negotiations. And so I did. But the officer continued to insist. After much bickering, he nevertheless left our territory. Several people had to be sent to the medical unit of the detachment. About fifty submachine guns and machine guns fell into complete disrepair. From them only barrels with belts remained. Fur coats, jackets are torn to shreds. "

The picture is complemented by a fragment of an interview with Hero of the Soviet Union, Lieutenant General Yuri Vasilyevich Babansky:

“Hand-to-hand fighting ensued. We beat them, they beat us. There were many more. And our armored personnel carrier began to cut them. They would have crushed us with a crowd, they would have simply trampled us into the ice, one wet spot would have remained. And the armored personnel carrier cut them into small groups. And with groups it is easier for us to manage. And now the driver of the armored personnel carrier did not notice, he crushed the Chinese. He pressed it not with wheels, but with a body. He still jumped out from under the front end, ran for a while and fell. Blood began to flow from his mouth. We didn't touch it anymore. They, I suppose, finished it off themselves. And on this basis they raised a fuss that we deliberately suppressed it ”.

Another excerpt from V.D.Bubenin's book:

“In December 1967, at night, a large detachment on the island of Kirkinsky was headed by an officer of the intelligence department of the Iman border detachment, Captain Iozas Steponyavichus, who came to this island for the first time. The composition of the outfit consisted of soldiers who arrived from the maneuvering group for reinforcement. Closer to midnight, Steponyavichus reported that up to 50 Chinese arrived on the island in cars of the ZIL-151 type and a passenger car GAZ-69 and surrounded the border guard. The reserve from the outpost on alarm went to the island. At first, the Chinese did not show aggressiveness and did not openly show their intentions ...

Soon, a Chinese man in a paramilitary uniform separated from the car. Approaching our border guards, in Russian he demanded that the soldiers tie up and give up their officer. Ours sent them to the right place. The assault began, which quickly turned into a fierce battle. The soldiers realized what danger threatened the officer, and took him into a circle. But the Chinese managed to break the ring. They grabbed Steponyavichus and dragged him to the truck. The officer heard the clang of the bolts behind his back and shouted with strength: “Don't shoot, don't shoot! Back to everyone. "

But our soldiers in a rage rushed into hand-to-hand combat. A real massacre was already going on near the car. This time the Chinese were not just Chinese. From the way they clearly and harmoniously acted and skillfully applied hand-to-hand combat techniques, it was clear that this was a specially trained and prepared group. In the back of the car, the captain's arms were twisted, the pistol was seized from him, and his fur coat was torn from his chest. A Chinese man came up, shone a flashlight in his face, then on his shoulder straps. He shouted something evil to the others and waved his hand. The next moment, the captain flew out of the body and fell on the ice, because it was not who they needed. Although Steponyavichus was very similar in height and build to me. "

“Hearing a cry for help, Ilya saw how our soldier, strangled by a belt, was being dragged to the car. He rushed there. But several people immediately pounced on him. While he was dealing with them, the soldier was already pushed into the UAZ. The car started to move. Kobets raised his machine gun and fired a burst on the wheels. The Chinese threw out the soldier on the move. Several more unauthorized automatic bursts followed. This time nothing happened. None of the Chinese were killed. Then they figured out for a long time who and why fired, how many cartridges were fired, who gave the command, who was to blame? In any case, many then realized that it was undesirable to send people to such a thing, who did not yet understand that even one shot at the border could lead to irreparable damage, without appropriate experience. Since then, the personnel of the outpost and one of the officers have always been included in the composition of any independently operating reserve. "

It is very difficult to add anything to eyewitness accounts. There is a good Russian proverb “Die yourself, but help your comrade”, and this is how the Soviet border guards acted. What V.I.Gorodinsky asserts, I do not want to repeat at all. Apparently, the author of the interview has new friends? His uncle Grigory Vladimirovich, who served in "SMERSH" during the war and advised the young man to enter the "Chekist school", whose opinion was unshakable for V. I. Gorodinsky, would certainly not have approved the current position of his nephew.

Now about the principled assessment of the actions of the border guards by the leadership of the KGB and the country and their alleged interest, according to the author of the interview, in aggravating the situation on the Soviet-Chinese border. I will give an eyewitness account of the events, which is radically different from the version of V.I. Gorodinsky.

“Several large Chinese men grabbed their weakest accomplice and began to beat him behind the second line. He struggled, screamed, cried. He was besieged by a blow to the head. He fell and was already being kicked while lying down. My soldiers were simply outraged by this atrocity. - Comrade lieutenant, maybe we can help, otherwise they will beat him to death. But at that time, the Chinese raised the hands and feet of a fellow tribesman who was still showing signs of life and threw them at our feet. At the beginning, we could not understand anything. But when a bunch of cameramen and press photographers from Xinhua News Agency rushed to shoot the episode, everything became clear. The episode has been worked out in a classic manner ”.

“Major General NA Kizhentsev, head of the Border Troops intelligence department, flew to the outpost. He and his officers watched and studied the situation for several days. One evening, being alone with me, Kizhentsev once again asked me to tell all the circumstances of that massacre. I honestly reported everything and expressed my suspicions. This interested the general. He chided me for not telling me earlier. The general was silent for a long time. It was evident that he was making a rather difficult decision. - Do you know the island well? He asked me. - Just like the back of your hand. - I am planning to conduct reconnaissance on the island. You will lead a reconnaissance group. It is necessary to obtain evidence confirming or refuting that there are corpses. There should be no mistake. Tomorrow you will go ... I will personally instruct the group. The next night, in three groups we stealthily advanced to the island ... I looked in, shone my flashlight first into one, then into the other. Soldiers also dropped in. We made sure that there really were twisted frozen corpses, in other boxes it was the same. There was no doubt. These are corpses. Kizhentsev was waiting for us. I reported to him in detail, trying not to miss a single detail. He talked with the soldiers for a long time, clarified something. Then he walked around the small office for a long time. Sometimes he stopped and looked at me thoughtfully. I began to realize the whole tragedy of my situation. And suddenly, in the oppressive silence, I heard the general's voice: - Do you understand that you have just signed your own verdict? “I understand,” I answered firmly, because I knew for a long time that someday I would still be extreme ... Now I felt it really. I suddenly became completely indifferent to everything. "

“In mid-May (1968) Strelnikov phoned and conveyed Leonov's order to line up the entire personnel of the outpost on the shore by 12 noon. The head of the detachment will present the awards ... The head of the detachment thanked the personnel for their excellent service and presented the medals "For excellence in guarding the state border of the USSR", badges "Excellent border guard", announced gratitude from the command of the district and the detachment ... I was sincerely happy and proud of my soldiers ... I called Strelnikov. - Thank you, brother. Have they forgotten you? "They said thank you for the service."

“We also remembered the medals that were awarded to our subordinates. Yes, we were proud of it. But they forgot about us. Resentment, they themselves did not really know at whom, broke through in us. "

This is how the command and leadership of the KGB of the USSR defended the chiefs of the outposts - they asked them in full. That was the time. Comments are superfluous.

Now about the history of relations between the two countries. Not for the first time we have to admit that VI Gorodinsky is not friendly not only with history, but also with geography. In March 1937, the Soviet-Chinese border in the Far East "de jure" did not exist. In Manchuria, captured by the Japanese, on March 1, 1932, the puppet state of Manchukuo was created, which was completely controlled by them. The commander of the Japanese Kwantung Army was also the Japanese ambassador to Manchukuo and had the right to "veto" any decision of the emperor. It was the Japanese government that then believed that the USSR misinterpreted the delimitation of territories enshrined in the Beijing Treaty between the Russian Empire and China, but adhered to the "status quo" that had developed at that time. There is no need to mix Soviet-Japanese and Soviet-Chinese relations into one heap. Thus, there are no facts and it is interesting to find out what other "genuine documents" his references go to.

“There were no border problems between Moscow and Beijing in the late 40s and mid-50s. None of the parties expressed any claims and comments. At the same time, the relations between the residents of the borderlands developed benevolent and friendly, which was supported by a number of documents on the procedure for conducting economic activities by the parties. An example is the implementation of an agreement on the procedure for navigation along the border rivers Amur, Ussuri, Salgach, along Lake Khanka. The requests of the Chinese authorities for permits to use the Soviet islands for economic needs and fishing in the Soviet water area of ​​the rivers were evidence of the recognition of the current border line by the neighboring state. "

“One of the most acute disagreements between the PRC and the USSR was the question of the ownership of separate territories. The leadership of the neighboring state began to point out the "inequality" of treaties between tsarist Russia and Qing China, although in the first years after the formation of the PRC this problem was not raised. The conflict in this area was accompanied by the reprint in Beijing in the second half of the 1950s of Zhao Chuan-cheng's book, published in 1930, "Tables of Administrative Divisions of China in the Qing Era (1644-1911)". A propaganda campaign "about the injustice of the borders of the PRC" followed.

During this campaign, officials of the neighboring country hastened to present territorial claims to the USSR for 22 disputed areas of up to 1,5 million square kilometers. Contradictions began to intensify between the PRC and the USSR regarding the passage of the state border line ... The negotiations on border issues were difficult and practically unsuccessful. "

And V.I.Gorodinsky has a different opinion. Therefore, it is extremely unusual to hear from an officer who has served for more than forty years in leading positions in the Border Troops, including on the Chinese border in the Far Eastern, Transbaikal and Eastern border districts, including the head of the political department of the Panfilov Red Banner border detachment, only a reference to some anonymous Russian historians that the Chinese fiercely disputed in those years a number of sections of the border Soviet territory. Have you not crossed the threshold of the Lenin rooms and with your feet, along with the soldiers, "did not measure the border"?

Another incomprehensible quote, as a vivid example of the "crafty creativity" of V. I. Gorodinsky:

"In the opinion of Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary GV Kireev, chairman of the Russian delegation to the Joint Russian-Chinese Demarcation Commission," the delimitation red line reflected ... only the outlined border lines and could not be automatically transferred to the area. "

There is no such thing in an interview with G.V. Kireev. Compilation of individual words, rather than exact quotations, is the hallmark of the “author of multiple books” style. I will add that border delimitation and demarcation are completely different processes. It is a pity that, unlike G.V. Kireev, the retired border general is confused in this.

I will quote the exact opinion of Genrikh Vasilyevich Kireev, Ambassador-at-Large of the Russian Foreign Ministry and Chairman of the Russian delegation to the Joint Russian-Chinese Demarcation Commission:

“Twenty-five years after the conclusion of the Peking Treaty of 1860 ... it was noticed that the borders within Primorye did not pass as it was established. The parties agreed to make certain changes in their passage. This was done by the so-called New Kiev Protocols of 1886. In 1924, when the Agreement on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations between China and the USSR was signed, the parties agreed to redemark the border. When discussing the border issue at the 1926 Soviet-Chinese conference in Beijing, the Russian draft documents stated: “The border line between the USSR and China was repeatedly moved by both the local population and the local authorities of both sides. As a result, it is necessary, first of all, to restore the original line in the form as it was defined by various agreements, protocols, etc. relative to the Russian-Chinese border "... The border along the Amur and Ussuri was not defined at all, and the islands have never been legally assigned to any state before."

“The author of several books on the history of the Border Guard Service” often still sins by the fact that he often forgets to indicate the sources of information. And after a while, he does not hesitate to refer to his books as a source of this or that information. For example: “A year after the fighting on Damansky Island, this topic practically disappeared from the media. Glavlit (the body of censorship in the USSR - "NVO") banned mention in the open press about Damansky Island. The phrase "events on the Ussuri River in March 1969" has come into use. No source specified. And here is the original source: “I entered the editor's office. In response to my report, Major Petrov listlessly handed me a piece of paper, a telegram from the GUPV: "Read it!" Before the leadership of the border districts and district newspapers (the executive editors then also fulfilled the duties of military censors), it was indicated that from now on, according to the order of Glavlit, the mention of Damansky Island in the open press is prohibited. All the details about the combat clash can be reduced to a short phrase: "Events on the Ussuri River in March 1969".

A large portion of the lie is contained in the interviews regarding the servicemen of the units of the Soviet Army, who provided timely and effective assistance in the battles on Damanskoye:

“… At 20:30 18 BM-21 Grad combat vehicles fired a volley across the island. But when the smoke cleared, everyone saw that not a single shell had hit him. All of them flew 7-8 kilometers deep into the Chinese territory and smashed to smithereens the village, which allegedly housed the headquarters of one of the units, a hospital and several logistical units. "

This information was obtained, apparently, after the analysis of "military documents of those days from the Internet." This is an outright lie regarding the actions of the commander of the 199th Verkhne-Udinsky motorized rifle regiment, Colonel Dmitry Andreevich Krupeinikov, the commander of the Grad installation division, Major M. T. Vaschenko, the commander of the reconnaissance company of the 135th motorized rifle division, Captain Sergei Nikolaevich Shpigun, Hero of the Soviet Union, junior sergeant Vladimir Viktorovich Orekhov and many other soldiers and officers.

In reality, everything happened differently. An excerpt from the story of the commander of the 199th motorized rifle regiment:

“The artillery of the division was commanded at that time by Colonel Pensack ... The division's artillery headquarters, when the border guards were fighting, spotted all eighteen enemy batteries, and the Grad strike subsequently fell on them and all manpower. The effect turned out to be sensitive for them. At the positions of the 4th company there was a speaking installation for the propaganda of the enemy. Her crew overheard the conversation of two Chinese on the radio. They had our radio stations in service, and the waves were the same. One says to the other: "We ought to give them back!" He asks: “And with what? All our weapons are out of action and only two people are left alive. "

When his own rich imagination dries up, V.I. Gorodinsky grabs it and, with no less enthusiasm, develops other people's delusional versions, allegedly connected with the involvement of the then Minister of Defense of the PRC in the events in Damanskoye, for example.

It is difficult for a normal person who knows firsthand the history of the Border Troops to imagine how many and what other absurdities and outright nonsense must be thought of to be enough for a whole book. In this regard, it is appropriate to quote the words of the ancient Greek philosopher Heraclitus: "Much knowledge does not teach the mind." And Peter I: "I will tell the boyars in the Duma to speak according to the unwritten, so that everyone's foolishness is visible."

The latter V. I. Gorodinsky constantly and unsubstantiated complains about the lack of available information on various historical problems. It turns out that someone is hiding information from him and other researchers, including on the Daman events of 1969. The question arises: does he really need this truthful information? In my opinion, they absolutely do not need such information, they need facts that can be presented in a negative light.

On the eve of the 30th anniversary of the events on Damansky Island, Vestnik of the Borders of Russia No. 3-4 for 1999 (pp. 26-37) published an extensive article “Days and Nights of Damansky Island” by Colonel Valery Sudakov, Head of the Central Archives of the Federal Border Guard Service of Russia, and Jr. researcher of the archive of Vladimir Zapadny. On the basis of archival materials, it provides a detailed analysis of relations between the USSR and the PRC in the border sphere since 1949. The fighting on Damansky Island on March 2 and 15, 1969 is described minute by minute. But the materials of this extensive article are not used in any way by V.I. Gorodinsky. What is the reason? First - apparently someone hid her again? Or secondly, it does not fit into the framework of his task. Rather - the second, since he definitely read it and knows about its existence. Considering his reverent attitude towards his "literary works", it can be said with great certainty that the issue of this particular herald is at least kept in his personal library.

The whole intrigue is that it also published an article by the then deputy head of the North Caucasus Regional Directorate, Major General Vladimir Gorodinsky, under the heading "We inherited courage." I will quote only two theses of the article.

“The problem of promoting the history and traditions of the border troops, perpetuating the memory of the dead border guards, in my opinion, in recent years has acquired particular relevance for the Federal Border Guard Service of Russia. This is explained, first of all, by the fundamental changes that have taken place in the life of society and the border troops, the consequences of the so-called de-ideologization of military service, which ultimately resulted in discrediting such a concept as patriotism. "

“... All of us, and above all the officers-educators ... need to take care that the borders of the Motherland are protected not by Ivans, who do not remember their kinship, but by people who know the history of the border troops, who are proud of belonging to them, who are aware of their involvement with the heroic past of their illustrious predecessors ... Nothing so discredits the historical past and does not harm the education of personnel, as a manifestation of ignorance, low culture by the organizers of this work. "

This is very correct, but does the author of the article remember this or has he already forgotten?

I probably forgot. In the last 7-8 years, he has suffered from severe memory lapses, becoming in fact "Ivan, who does not remember kinship."

In conclusion, a short blitz for "the author of several books on the history of the Border Guard":

1. Do you consider yourself a patriot of Russia?
2. When were you sincere in your words and actions: in 1999 or now in 2021?
3. What reaction are you expecting to your new book? Another portion of praise from the traitor of the Motherland Rezun-Suvorov, who in the fall of 2020 on the Internet caressed you with his praise for the first book?
4. Who are you with, General Gorodinsky?

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17. Lobodyuk NL "Damansky Island: Interviews, Memories, Photos" - 2nd ed., Add. M. KZI "Border", 2014, p. fourteen.
18. Heraclitus "Golden Encyclopedia of Wisdom".
19. Bulletin of the Borders of Russia No. 3-4 1999, p. 47.
20. Bulletin of the Borders of Russia No. 3-4 1999, p. 53.

I have the honor!

Vladimir Telegin, retired colonel. Chairman of the regional department in Moscow of the Interregional Public Organization of veterans (pensioners) of Moscow and the Moscow region.

The letter was reviewed and approved by the Presidium of the UPU MOO on March 24, 2021

Moscow, March 2021
Photos used:, from the archive of Yuri Babansky
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  1. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 12 2021 19: 12
    Thanks to the author for the article.
    It is difficult to comment on events that ... With a stroke of the pen and the transfer of land to China, the victory and glory of the Soviet border guards are "zeroed" ... You can write and think what you want.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR April 13 2021 01: 00
      And what to write if it is. First, Gorbaty in 1991 gave Damansky and a number of islands in the Ussuri, and after him Putin in 2004 gave a bunch of islands already on the Amur, and this turns out to be a blessing.
      1. GTYCBJYTH2021
        GTYCBJYTH2021 April 14 2021 06: 32
        Quote: YOUR
        And what to write if it is. First, Gorbaty in 1991 gave Damansky and a number of islands in the Ussuri, and after him Putin in 2004 gave a bunch of islands already on the Amur, and this turns out to be a blessing.

        Verbal diarrhea, not a topic ...... Marshal Nedelin is a disaster ...... Uncle on his father's side burned there ....... And grandmother Fyokla in 1973, by a court decision-23 rubles with a penny, a pension from MO ....
  2. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. April 12 2021 19: 24
    In 75, the political officer told about the Damansky island. About the mess happening on the border, about not in any case opening fire. Babansky's feat that he opened fire on defeat, making an independent decision, violating the order of the Commander-in-Chief. He could be put. Nobody wanted to take on Then, as always, punishment of the innocent, rewarding those who were not involved. The tankers tried to save the situation, but they were thrown back by fire. Only the marines calmed the Chinese with Katyushas. The fighters were not to blame for anything, they did their duty to the end.
  3. Avior
    Avior April 12 2021 19: 26
    An article on an interesting and well-known topic, but the authors made a dump of scraps of some records from it, not always indicating whose they are, so it is impossible to make out what they prove and what is wrongly written by this very Gorodinsky. What are the bodies in the boxes, who found them, why?
    And the whole article is like a set of excerpts about everything. Not any consistent in the presentation of the material, they suddenly returned in the 30s, and so the whole article
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 12 2021 21: 36
      Quote: Avior
      An article on an interesting and well-known topic, but the authors made a dump out of it

      The next step is to leave the topic at the mercy of Madame Frolova. This will be the bottom.
    2. Richard
      Richard April 13 2021 00: 09
      “Who are you with, General Gorodinsky? The author of several books on the history of the Border Guard Service "often sins by the fact that he often forgets to indicate the sources of information.

      And yourself? They piled up a bunch of quotes, without indicating where they came from, did not lead to more than one link to them. But for some reason, their attacks on General Gorodinsky were thickly mixed with well-known facts about the Daman events.
      What is the article about? With such an intriguing title "Remembering Damansky: How Not to Forget Forgotten Battles."
      About the Daman conflict? Then what has General Gorodinsky to do with it? That the general in his book "Little-known pages of the service and combat activities of the Border Troops of the NKVD of the USSR in the initial period of the Great Patriotic War" is lying? Then document it, refute it, give the facts, and not your unsubstantiated conclusions like:
      Unfortunately, one cannot expect from him an objective and honest examination of historical events.
      And from what side is Damansky Island and photographs from the personal archive of Yuri Babansky?
      The authors simply do not pay attention to many well-known historical facts, or interpret them in a favorable light for themselves. For those who dare to speak openly about the discrepancy of some modern historical works with the "truth of life", a long-tested weapon is used - the method of discrediting the opponent. For this, as they say, all means are good. Primitive demagogy, multiplied by fraudulent methods of using text from the works of "nameless authors" and nameless eyewitnesses, labeling offensive labels on opponents, as well as open lies, are designed to form, to put it mildly, a negative opinion of such a person among others.
      But it is unlikely that you will have such a trick with Vladimir Ivanovich Gorodinsky, a rather famous and respected man in border circles.
      1. Richard
        Richard April 13 2021 00: 21
        Preface to the book "Little-known pages of the service and combat activities of the Border Troops of the NKVD of the USSR in the initial period of the Great Patriotic War"
        "I'd rather tell the truth, which ultimately cannot be concealed, I, the border guard, than someone from the outside." Vladimir Gorodinsky

        Gorodinsky Vladimir Ivanovich was born in 1950 in the village of Vladimirovka, Znamensky District
        Kirovograd region in Ukraine in a family of workers. In the border troops since 1967.
        After graduating from the Moscow Higher Border Command School of the KGB of the USSR in 1971, he served in the Far Eastern Border District.
        In 1980 he was awarded the Komsomol Prize for his personal contribution to the engineering and technical equipment of the state border.
        In 1983 he graduated from the Lenin Military-Political Academy and was appointed head of the political department of the Panfilov border detachment of the Eastern border district. Since 1987 - in the Political Directorate of the Border Troops of the KGB of the USSR. In 1989 he entered and in 1991 graduated from the Academy of Social Sciences under the Central Committee of the CPSU. From 1994 to 2001, he held the positions of deputy commanders of the Trans-Baikal and Caucasian special border districts, as well as deputy head of the North Caucasus regional department of the Federal Border Guard Service of Russia. Participant in hostilities.
        For two years he was the First Deputy Head of the Department of Educational Work of the Federal Border Guard Service of Russia, and from 2003 to 2010 he headed the VPVPU "Golitsyn Border Institute of the FSB of Russia."
        For impeccable service he was awarded 19 orders and medals, including "For the rescue of the dead" and "For distinction in guarding the state border", as well as personalized weapons from the Director of the Federal Border Guard Service of Russia and the Director of the Federal Security Service of Russia.
        Major General. PhD in Philosophy (2005)
      2. Richard
        Richard April 13 2021 00: 33
        The authors of this "article", the "History" section, is not a place to throw mud at their opponents. Not pretty. I will not read your "works" anymore. hi
        PS. This is my. 1985 release
  4. Bog
    Bog April 12 2021 19: 43
    Comrades, how much has been written about the hostilities on the island, and nothing about fire contacts on our shore. According to the commander of one of the BM 21, a Chinese sabotage group covered our positions with mortar fire just before the use of the Grad. And in particular, he received a shrapnel in the knee. Does anyone know about this?
    1. Soldatov V.
      Soldatov V. April 12 2021 20: 19
      We now have advice and love from the Middle Kingdom. BM-21 was then a secret technique and the soldiers signed a nondisclosure agreement. In those events, neither China nor we in general have anything to brag about, they seem to have not forgotten, but we do not want to stir up.
  5. lopvlad
    lopvlad April 12 2021 20: 59
    Remembering Damansky: how not to forget the "forgotten battles"

    an attempt to divert and divert attention to China at a time when the West is pulling up its weapons and military personnel to our western borders, increasing the coverage of our borders by times. When does the West give Bandera the go-ahead to start genocide of Russians in Donbass?
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 12 2021 21: 34
      Quote: lopvlad
      When does the West give Bandera the go-ahead to start genocide of Russians in Donbass?

      Well, at least here, damn it, you do not stick this boil. We have already gotten each branch with our whining forshmach. What the fuck is the connection between Damansky and Donbass? What, spring paranoia?
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad April 13 2021 00: 53
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        We have already gotten each branch with our whining forshmach.

        whining from you and the like who offer us to remember Damansky or other garbage to distract from reality and our real enemies who hated, hate and will hate Russia and Russians since the time of Ivan the Terrible and until Russia disappears from the world map.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 13 2021 07: 07
          Quote: lopvlad
          who invite us to remember either Damansky or other garbage

          You, my dear, call history 'other garbage'?
          Quote: lopvlad
          to distract

          Well, don't get distracted by the 'History' section. There is more than enough slag about Ukraine in VO, whine about 'real enemies' there, why are you climbing here?
        2. bayard
          bayard April 13 2021 08: 12
          Yes, China is also a "friend" to us. So Damansky must be remembered.
          My uncle fought in Damansky. As part of that very low-altitude platoon RTV with the P-15, the head of this P-15. And the platoon commander was Lieutenant Bondarenko ... I later served with him - already Lieutenant Colonel Bondarenko in Azerbaijan together.
    2. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 April 14 2021 06: 42
      Quote: lopvlad
      Remembering Damansky: how not to forget the "forgotten battles"

      an attempt to divert and divert attention to China at a time when the West is pulling up its weapons and military personnel to our western borders, increasing the coverage of our borders by times. When does the West give Bandera the go-ahead to start genocide of Russians in Donbass?

      I am Siberian .... Krasnoyarets ....... Are you ready-without coercion-to come to the Donbass and take up military weapons?
  6. Mother Theresa
    Mother Theresa April 12 2021 21: 58
    Sealed the "friendship" with our blood.
    1. Mother Theresa
      Mother Theresa April 12 2021 22: 04
      and now it can be noted.
      1. bayard
        bayard April 13 2021 08: 18
        There was a case. There was also a betrayal.
        Already during the Vietnam War.
        “The Chinese comrades did not forgive the murder of Comrade Stalin,” defamation of his name, and ... entered into an agreement with the capitalists.
        And the agreement - yes, they sealed it with our blood.
        So every Russian person should have a memo - "Remember Damansky".
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. April 13 2021 10: 01
          Quote: bayard
          There was a case. There was also a betrayal.

          what kind of betrayal are we talking about?
          1. bayard
            bayard April 13 2021 11: 41
            The same thing is "socialist".
            Quote: bayard
            “The Chinese comrades did not forgive the murder of Comrade Stalin,” defamation of his name, and ... entered into an agreement with the capitalists.
            And the agreement - yes, they sealed it with our blood.

            And then the "First Socialist War" happened - as the Americans called it.
            And they also sealed their agreement with the devil with Vietnamese blood.
            A very "reliable" partner from China.
  7. beeper
    beeper April 12 2021 22: 12
    I well remember those troubling days of March 1969, as we were in the village, there was still snow everywhere, every issue of the Izvestia newspaper was anxiously awaited (which, for many, many years, until the very end of the USSR, was invariably subscribed and read from cover to cover by my grandfather ), any "news from the selmag (rumors like" one grandfather told another, and the women smashed ")" and official messages on Soviet radio (if anyone had black-and-white televisions in their huts, they were very badly received far from the city, although there was one of ours, "recorded" by the police, a rural "radio hooligan" who knew how to "tune a mercury antenna" on his high pear))) with news about the events "on the Chinese border (as we all said then)" .. ...
    It seems then that Izvestia printed, which I remembered in those days, a photo of border guards at the BTR-152 armored personnel carrier, from its right door, with the armored door folded down, their commander in a white sheepskin coat was looking at the photographer (maybe someone can find it in the archive newspapers that issue).
    At my home (until the very move in the 1980s), in the "working corner", among the drawings of models and color inserts from the "Foreign Military Review", the cover of "Ogonyok" 1969 with a color photo of Hero of the Soviet Union Yuri hung in the most conspicuous place on the wall Babansky (then he was very thin at all)) and a spread of the "Oglikovsky" pages with a black and white panoramic photograph of the snow-covered Damansky Island and black lines-silhouettes of our border guards and Chinese provocateurs, made a moment before his death by our border guard from the dead group of Senior Lieutenant Ivan Strelnikov ...
    I was always attentive to any news about Damanskoye and the stories of those who had served their term on the Chinese border, the people and in Ukraine then, in the 60s and 70s, knew well what was happening on our eastern borders ... a “terrible curse” even that it was in the "pre-Afghan era", which, I myself heard in our country, completely angry, in the heat of the moment, they threw some kind of thread to an over-the-top chap, outrageous: "to serve you on the Chinese border!" ...

    In the mid-1970s in the "Military Book" I bought a hardcover book (called, in my opinion, "Maoism and Chinese militarism"), "Military Publishing" ovskaya, precisely because it mentioned battles on Damansky Island and on Lake Zhalanshkol , about other provocations on the eastern border and about how the Chinese then savage our border guards while they were still alive, finishing them off, and mocking the corpses of our dead ...

    So, the "frontier political officer" Gorodinsky is lying, they wrote and said then "about Damansky", because among us there were still many living veterans of the Great Patriotic War, including those who smashed the Japanese Kwantung Army in those Manchurian places, who had a good idea and could explain what our guys really had to face!
    My school friend, a Soviet (and then Russian) submarine officer, told (still a freshman) how, immediately after entering the Sevastopol VVMU, they were shown a documentary film with memorable shots of baked earth in the vicinity of Damansky, scorched-melted by "termite "Gradov rockets, which covered accumulations of Chinese infantry and the positions of artillery batteries ....
    I, too, in the 70s and early 80s, had the occasion to leaf through the translation of "Mao's quotation book", to understand the "jiaofangs" and "hunweibins", the uniform of privates and officers of the PLA (I still remember that the officer's rag jacket differed only in the presence of four, and not two patch pockets - two additional, "officer's" pockets were sewn on the chest - this could be distinguished from a distance only in the optics, because the military caps of the soldiers and commanders were the same, everything was sewn from the same x / b), to see documentary films about the training and tactics of the Chinese army and Chinese special forces ... training from the Chinese, especially infantry combat and hand-to-hand combat (who served in the 60-70s "on the Chinese border" brought home oral "legends about Chinese saboteurs" , who, when detained, kicked them, bent machine guns in the hands of our border guards, who were strictly forbidden to shoot, even when the Chinese were killing them), was then excellent!
    I don’t know for now, but I think that the Chinese soldiers have not lost their “training standards” even to this day - their “partner” is very serious and, just, our Stalinist Soviet Union was the “life-giving source and initial vector” of this vigorous Chinese military power .. (grieve or rejoice now - how else will it come around ?!), but from those old events I can definitely say that
    "The Stalinist Good Deed of Brotherly Aid to China and" Chairman Mao "later, in the 1960s and 80s, came back to haunt all of us with the Chinese Unjust Evil and our Soviet Big Blood!"
    Although, as always, behind all this bloody "inter-community" with the closest neighbors, the "white and fluffy" huge ears of the wicked Saxons of Washington stuck out from the bushes very close (so "just for joy" any of our "slaughterhouses"!).

    P.S. About this "commander-in-chief", if I had read his "books" and "treasures", my military grandfather would have said how he had sealed - "turned over"!
    1. Karaganda
      Karaganda April 28 2021 14: 53
      Choose the expressions of the scribbler.
  8. Dmt
    Dmt April 14 2021 18: 00
    Gorodinsky smells like "Zuleikha" lol
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    3. Karaganda
      Karaganda April 28 2021 14: 57
      Read first what does Zuleikha mean? Smart ass. bully
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