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The British newspaper said that "Putin is trapped" because of the UK's plans to build boats for the Ukrainian Navy

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Recently, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson promised Ukraine all-round and unwavering support. We are talking, among other things, about helping Kiev in the modernization of the Ukrainian Naval Forces, which are experiencing difficult times.


As you know, after the reunification of Crimea with Russia, all the objects of the Ukrainian Navy located on the peninsula, as well as most of the ships and a significant part of the personnel fleet passed to Russia. As a result, Ukraine was left practically without a combat-ready fleet: now Kiev has only one large warship and several small ships at its disposal.

According to the Daily Express author Callum Hoare, the number of ships of the Russian Navy and the Russian Navy in the Black Sea is incomparable. Considering that relations between the two states are unlikely to be normalized in the foreseeable future, Kiev needs to strengthen the power of its naval forces. The British side will help him in this.

So, when in October 2020, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy paid an official visit to the UK, he signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the UK Department of Defense to secure a loan of £ 1,25 billion for a period of 10 years. Under the terms of the loan, the UK will supply Ukraine with military equipment, including warships.

In March 2021, the British military attaché in Ukraine, Commodore Tim Woods (by accident or not, it was a naval officer) announced that the Ukrainian strategy for the development of the navy until 2025 would be implemented with the help of the United Kingdom and the United States.

Specifically, Great Britain is going to supply Ukraine with maneuverable missile boats, which, due to their mobility and good weapons, will become a serious problem for the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the attache said.

By 2024, 8 missile boats for the Ukrainian Navy are to be built. In addition, Ukraine will build a small missile ship according to the Turkish project, and two boats have already been purchased from the United States for the needs of the coast guard.

New ships, according to the British attaché, are needed by Ukraine to curb Russian activity in the Black Sea. But will the defense capability of the Ukrainian Navy really increase so much with the appearance of several missile boats at the disposal of the Ukrainian Navy? It is hard to believe, rather, such statements are made in order to convince Kiev to continue ordering military equipment on credit from the British side. Great Britain receives money and the workload of production capacities, Ukraine - boats, the only question is, does it need them, taking into account the general balance of forces of Ukraine and Russia in the Black Sea region?

By the way, British readers themselves are not very keen and support the idea of ​​building and supplying boats to Ukraine. Some of them write that it would not hurt London to first provide its own navy with new ships, while others generally express doubts about the ability of the "technologically backward" Great Britain to supply anyone with advanced military equipment. Some Britons directly argue that by 2024 Russia will have seized Ukraine, so it makes no sense to set such delivery dates for boats.

Readers are ironic about the title of the article, which says that "Putin is trapped." It is pointed out that the Russian president "probably does not even know that he was trapped because of Britain's plans to build several boats for the Ukrainian Navy."

Indeed, to argue that a few boats will become a trap for a huge nuclear power and its president is too much even for modern Western propaganda.
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  1. prior
    prior April 8 2021 10: 34
    +22
    Everyone will have a "trap" if Russia gets tired of tolerating it and decides to withdraw from the Treaties on the Non-Use and Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.
    The fun will end instantly.
    Therefore, it is not worth making an outcast from a nuclear power, it can turn around unpleasantly ... angry
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 8 2021 10: 43
      +6
      The British newspaper said that "Putin is trapped" because of the UK's plans to build boats for the Ukrainian Navy
      British scientists are robbed of titles and regalia
    2. xorek
      xorek April 8 2021 11: 24
      +3
      Quote: prior
      Everyone will have a "trap" if Russia gets tired of tolerating it and decides to withdraw from the Treaties on the Non-Use and Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.
      The fun will end instantly.

      Vlad said well, Russia's patience is at its limit and it feels like they are provoking us from all sides and are waiting ...
      Quote: prior
      Therefore, it is not worth making an outcast from a nuclear power, it can turn around unpleasantly ...

      There is a limit to everything .. We in Russia do not want war and we know very well what it is .. But the Anglo-Saxons are hoping to again skim the cream and write off their debts if they play off someone .. No, gentlemen, where is the "hornet's nest" we are Russians already We understood long ago and we will not follow the lead, and we will not listen to your screams "And we are for sho". negative
      As already this barking and screaming got out, and then there was no one to talk to .. hi
      1. marchcat
        marchcat April 8 2021 11: 36
        +2
        Megalomania progresses in the Britons. recourse
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov April 9 2021 17: 17
          0
          They often say about the West: "What are they smoking there?" I was somehow skeptical about this earlier. But every day I am more and more convinced: no, they have something there that they distribute to all representatives of the authorities and the media, from which they are not childishly rushing! Did they borrow a magic potion from the Great Breeds? lol
    3. avg
      avg April 8 2021 12: 22
      +1
      Quote: prior
      Everyone will have a "trap" if Russia gets tired of enduring and decides to withdraw from the Treaties on the Non-Use and Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons

      And an even better trap for Putin would be to give Ukraine the Prince of Wales aircraft carrier. They will immediately fulfill the obligations on the loan, and get rid of shameful problems, but also from the debtor. Costs, sir. request
  2. Jcvai
    Jcvai April 8 2021 10: 35
    +11
    Reminds of an old anecdote about the accession of the Baltic states to NATO: the Baltic naval kite and naval raft were added to the opponents' camp.
    1. vik669
      vik669 April 8 2021 11: 13
      +1
      Let's join together to buy plywood, build an airplane and fly away from this planet! But, mind you! There we are waiting for the same "poop" ...
  3. Machete
    Machete April 8 2021 10: 35
    +14
    Hmm ...
    The British version of the coronavirus appears to be affecting the brain.

    Several boats will annihilate our fleet, coastal batteries and simply the ground forces and the air force.
    We're trapped, guys!
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 April 8 2021 10: 41
      +1
      Well, the missile boat can really turn out to be an unpleasant thing, they have been used more than once very effectively. But in this case, for some reason, I strongly doubt that the people of Naglich will deliver anything worthwhile to the Tsegabonites .. It’s not enough pennies for that. And the ability of the former brothers in mind to shatter any technique, especially the gentle western, is widely known. ...
      1. Machete
        Machete April 8 2021 10: 42
        +3
        Nobody will build a missile boat for them.
        There, one missile weapon will cost at their prices as a quarter of a frigate.
        And no one will definitely supply missiles. And there are none of our own.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 April 8 2021 10: 53
          0
          And there are none of our own.

          Well, yak, well? And the promoted Neptune? Which they are almost threatening to melt the Pacific Fleet straight from the pier? I don't know what happened with the Banderlog, but the original Soviet version of the X-35 is quite a serious machine ..
          1. Machete
            Machete April 8 2021 12: 08
            0
            Exaggerated, perhaps.
            Collecting several mock-ups and starting a series are different things.
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke April 8 2021 10: 57
          +1
          Quote: Machete
          Nobody will build a missile boat for them.

          Actually, this is not about boats ...
          Specifically, Great Britain is going to supply Ukraine with maneuverable missile boats, which, due to their mobility and good weapons become a serious problem for the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the attache said.

          talking about supplying problems.
          The eternal hobby of the Britons.
        3. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft April 8 2021 13: 29
          -1
          Quote: Machete
          Nobody will build a missile boat for them.
          There, one missile weapon will cost at their prices as a quarter of a frigate.
          And no one will definitely supply missiles. And there are none of our own.

          Not at all. You don't read periodicals.
          This document states that construction of eight missile boats will be financed by the British Export Credits Guarantee Department (ECGD), which will provide a loan of 1,25 billion pounds sterling for a period of 10 years. That is, from the point of view of British business, this deal is a commercial one.
          Most of the money from the British Isles will not go anywhere. The boats are designed by the British company BMT, and the first two will be built by the transnational British military-industrial concern BAE Systems. The lion's share of components will also fall on British and Scottish enterprises. It will also fall on the NATO allies - first of all, in terms of armaments, mainly missile ones, because there is nothing suitable on the shores of Foggy Albion. Probably, Norwegian-American anti-ship NSM will be purchased for the boats.
          Those six boats that will be built in Ukraine, most likely at the Nikolaev shipbuilding and ship repair plant "Nibulon", will also be completed from abroad.
          Nibulon plant not chosen by chance. Western technology is already being tested on it: In July of this year, the laying of the first of 20 FPB-98 Mk1 patrol boats took place, which will be built for the Coast Guard of Ukraine according to the project and with the active participation of the French company OSEA.
          https://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2020-11-12/4_1117_fleet.html
          An article about the RCA for the Naval Forces, similar boats are supplied by the British to Qatar ... in the photo is an RCA, similar to the one that will be built for the Naval Forces.
          https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4158661.html

          Article about patrol boats type FPB-98 Mk1

          The FPB 98 develops a speed of up to 35 knots and has a cruising range of 1200 nautical miles (at a speed of 12 knots). Armament: 30-mm artillery mount DS30B. Crew - 14 people.
          https://www.arms-expo.ru/news/vooruzhenie-inostrannykh-armiy/novye-storozhevye-katera-osea-fpb-98-dlya-vms-alzhira-vo-frantsuzskom-sen-nazere/

          What are we?
          All five Project 12411 Molniya missile boats currently at the disposal of the Black Sea Fleet and one Project 12417mainly used for launching air targets, by that time will be written off, since all the due dates will serve.
          The highly effective Project 21831 Buyan-M small missile ships in the Black Sea Fleet, the construction of which continues simultaneously with the Project 22800 Karakurt MRK, belong to combat units of a slightly different purpose. They will be noticeably inferior in speed to the Ukrainian RCA. And getting the "Caliber" into a highly maneuverable and high-speed boat, moreover, equipped with electronic warfare equipment, will be very difficult.
          https://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2020-11-12/4_1117_fleet.html
          Those RCA that are being built with torment in the Russian Federation are intended for the Baltic and the Caspian ...
          Thus, at the moment, the Russian Federation does not have a RCA in the Black and Azov Seas, which can withstand their classmates from the Naval Forces ... all hope is on the Coastal Forces of the KChF ...
          1. Sergey Kulikov_3
            Sergey Kulikov_3 April 8 2021 14: 05
            +2
            In the event of a war with the Ukrainian Navy, no one will hunt for boats, they will hit the decision-making centers, incl. boats will not help in any way. And why are they chasing their boats to our boats, there are aircraft that are more adapted for the destruction of boats.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft April 8 2021 15: 58
              +1
              Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
              In the event of a war with the Ukrainian Navy, no one will hunt for boats,

              Why? Each RCA, which will be built for the Ukrainian Navy, will have 8 SCRC, i.e. 8x8 = 64 anti-ship missiles will not be able to threaten the Crimean bridge or, for example, our warships? The uncle in the article said that our new KORs have weak air defense ...
              I think the most effective way against them is strike UAVs, which would constantly be on duty in the coastal strip of Crimea ...
              1. Sergey Kulikov_3
                Sergey Kulikov_3 April 8 2021 16: 11
                +1
                Because if a war of destruction begins, then these RCA will not be able to defend themselves either from missiles, or from turntables and aircraft. Sitting well in the office is not noticeable for all radars :) But being on the RCA, which is visible on the radars, is somehow not very pleasant, and no speed will save, and the situation with the air defense on the RCA is not very good. These boats are good for piracy, but not good for war.
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft April 8 2021 18: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
                  These boats are good for piracy, but not good for war.

                  What are you writing about? But how did the Egyptians drown the EM of Israeli Jews with their RCA?
          2. Stepan S
            Stepan S April 8 2021 18: 44
            0
            MRK project 22800 "Karakurt", refer to combat units of a slightly different purpose. They will be noticeably inferior in speed to the Ukrainian RCA. And getting "Caliber" into a highly maneuverable and high-speed boat, moreover, equipped with electronic warfare means, will be very difficult

            Those. the main purpose of missile boats (ships) is to arrange races across the sea, who is faster, the coolest?
            And Ukrainian boats can easily and with pleasure get into the Black Sea Fleet missile ship, but the missile ship will be very much in the way of the boat's electronic warfare.

            Those RCA that are being painfully built in the Russian Federation are intended for the Baltic and the Caspian ...

            But boats and ships for the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are built easily and with a song, and are there already an uncountable number of them in the ranks?
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft April 8 2021 19: 40
              0
              Quote: Stepan S
              And Ukrainian boats can easily and with pleasure get into the Black Sea Fleet missile ship, but the missile ship will be very much in the way of the boat's electronic warfare.

              What have I got to do with it? My uncle wrote that, I gave you a link to the article, I don't understand this ... I'm a humanist ... and by the way he wrote that our modern KOR (corvettes) have weak air defense, none of the good members of the forum have disputed ...
              But boats and ships for the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are built easily and with a song, and are there already an uncountable number of them in the ranks?

              According to the link I have provided to the article, there is an approved project for the construction of 20 patrol boats of the French project and which are already being built for the security forces of Ukraine ...
              It is not yet clear about the RCA for the Ukrainian Navy, but money has already been allocated, there is a British RCA project, an analogue of which is currently being supplied to Qatar, the issue of missile armament has not been resolved, or the anti-ship missiles will be of the Ukrainian project based on Neptune, or the Empireists will put their own ... ...
              At the moment in the Russian Federation it is not planned to build a RCA for the KChF .... Something like this ...
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 8 2021 10: 50
        +2
        Quote: paul3390
        Well, the missile boat can really turn out to be an unpleasant thing, they have been used more than once very effectively.

        But here's a trap, boats can't be. When there are a lot of mosquitoes, it is unpleasant, but not fatal, if they are not malaria.
  4. Cananecat
    Cananecat April 8 2021 10: 36
    -7
    The darkest himself wanted to build or sign friends ... but suddenly the shaves surprised everyone with their suddenness ...)))
  5. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima April 8 2021 10: 39
    -1
    Yes, they have nothing to pay for the rubber boats, and here is another last year's Memorandum.
  6. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis April 8 2021 10: 40
    +6
    On the pages of VO there was already an opus about the terrible inflatable boats VMsuk! Thunderstorm for Russia and the Black Sea Fleet .. Now they are frightening with boats ... Why would it be !? Yes, not in the subject, the Black Sea Fleet went to sea ... Frigates of the Grigorovich type, the cruiser Moscow, minesweepers and other ships.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 8 2021 10: 56
      0
      Quote: 30 vis
      On the pages of VO there was already an opus about the terrible inflatable boats VMsuk!

      A scary hare dressed in camouflage sitting in an inflatable boat.
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis April 8 2021 16: 53
      +3
      1 hour ago, source: Izvestia
      Ukrainian Navy began exercises in the Black Sea
      The naval forces of Ukraine have begun exercises in the Black Sea, at present, the work of the six largest Ukrainian ports is limited. About this on Thursday, April 8, writes "Strana.ua". The publication clarifies that, in particular, limited pilotage in the ports of Kherson, Olvia, Chornomorsk, Odessa, Yuzhny and Nikolaev.
      At the same time, the exercises were not announced earlier and More --- At the same time, the press service of the Southern Military District of Russia reported earlier that day that, as part of the control check for the winter training period, more than 10 landing and artillery boats and ships of the Caspian Flotilla Southern Military District make an inter-fleet transition from the Caspian to the Black Sea. According to the plan for passing the control check, the crews of the KFL boats, in cooperation with the forces of the Black Sea Fleet, will take part in offset naval exercises, it was specified in the message .. Let's ponder comrades soldier
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 8 2021 10: 40
    +1
    The Naglich people will build a flat-bottomed aircraft carrier specifically for the Sea of ​​Azov so that they do not accidentally land on local reefs, and a dozen missile seiners, so that when Russian patrol ships appear, they can: mow "like fishermen.
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        1. Ruslan Sulima
          Ruslan Sulima April 8 2021 11: 06
          +3
          Credit video, zyoma! In Russian ! good soldier

          Eh, where are my 18, now I would serve at the KCHF)
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 8 2021 11: 10
            +6
            Quote: Ruslan Sulima
            Eh, where are my 18, now I would serve at the KCHF)

            Ну what Sho may then may lol But we also have our own steppe expanses, like an endless sea.
            And they must be defended, and they will move forward ...
  8. Dimide
    Dimide April 8 2021 10: 42
    -10%
    , without specifics. Reflections of the author.
    Throw in the facts, this year the contract for the transfer of "Islands" is coming to an end, by the end of the year they will transfer the remaining three units, and if I am not mistaken, two Mark 6
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 8 2021 11: 05
      +6
      Quote: Dimid
      , without specifics. Reflections of the author.
      Throw in the facts, this year the contract for the transfer of "Islands" is coming to an end, by the end of the year they will transfer the remaining three units, and if I am not mistaken, two Mark 6


      And if with specifics, then all the "Islands" and "Stamps", "sooner later" request , can repeat / share the fate of the Ukrainian Navy's scrap metal in Crimea.

      "But this is not certain," because I have not yet fully comprehended "mysterious suburban soul"in her intentions to put an end to the statehood of the Outskirts once and for all.

      But twitch - everything is in dust. Including your and British statements ...
      1. Dimide
        Dimide April 8 2021 13: 01
        -2
        Smiled What will you disassemble into dust? laughing Motor boats such as Kazanka with Whirlwinds, what are the "painted" republics armed with?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 8 2021 13: 47
          +4
          Quote: Dimid
          Smiled What will you disassemble in dust? Motor boats such as Kazanka with Whirlwinds, what are the "painted" republics in service?

          Are you smiling? Do you want to check? Well, there are no barriers to fool request Try yes
          1. Dimide
            Dimide April 8 2021 13: 54
            -2
            It is clear that you will call your older brother laughing
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 8 2021 14: 01
              +4
              Quote: Dimid
              It is clear that you will call your older brother

              We have at least someone to call. Who will come to you? "Amerika s us?"

              Yes, you are the only one left in yours fool raskoryak-positions used by everyone who just wanted.

              One word - UNNECESSARY .
              1. Dimide
                Dimide April 8 2021 14: 08
                -2
                I smile with your optimism
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent April 8 2021 14: 11
                  +4
                  Quote: Dimid
                  I smile with your optimism


                  This is not optimism, but Faith and Strength of the Spirit, the categories with which Donbass is strong.
                  You will not understand this, Donbass is not your land.
                  1. Dimide
                    Dimide April 8 2021 14: 17
                    -2
                    I have asked more than once, in communication with me, tie up with slogans. I understand the work, but still
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 8 2021 17: 54
          +4
          Quote: Dimid
          Motor boats such as Kazanka with Whirlwinds, what are the "painted" republics armed with?


          Unexpected, right? "Calibers" in the Sea of ​​Azov.

          Like ?

          “Yesterday morning, the Caspian Flotilla of the Russian Navy began an operational transfer of forces to the Sea of ​​Azov.

          A diverse detachment consisting of artillery ships and boats, landing and auxiliary boats began the transition from Makhachkala, consisting of at least 10 units.

          Of greatest interest are the Buyan-type missile and artillery ships.


          Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1617878791
    2. Dimide
      Dimide April 8 2021 13: 25
      -2
      I forgot, another French boat for the border guards by the end of the year
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 8 2021 13: 48
        +3
        Quote: Dimid
        I forgot, another French boat for the border guards by the end of the year

        Don't oversaturated? wassat
        1. Dimide
          Dimide April 8 2021 13: 55
          -1
          Just in time for plepation
  9. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 8 2021 10: 46
    +6
    Jack London had a story, "The League of Old Men," I think ... There, an Indian bought a revolver from a white man, bravely approached the bear and quickly, quickly fired six times laughing Then the Indian bear gobbled up the fuck
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 8 2021 11: 17
      +3
      Quote: Cowbra
      Jack London had a story, "The League of Old Men", it seems ... There, an Indian bought a revolver from a white man, bravely approached the bear and fired six times quickly and quickly. After which the Indian bear ate the fuck

      I haven't read it ... Probably in vain.

      But by the meaning I understand that the Indian did not just shoot "quickly, quickly" but also past, perhaps even in the opposite direction from the beast?
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra April 8 2021 11: 30
        +2
        No, in the sense of "Now we know that you shouldn't go after a bear with a revolver"
        And so it began. Then a second white man came with
        short-haired dogs, he left, and left the dogs. But he took away six of the most
        our strong dogs, for which he gave Ku-So-Ti, my mother's brother,
        amazing pistol - six times in a row and shot this
        pistol. Ku-So-Ti was proud of such a pistol and laughed at our bows and
        arrows, he called them female toys. With a pistol in his hand he went
        at the bear. Now everyone knows it ain't good to go bear with a gun
        but how could we have known this then? And how could Ku-So-Ti know this? He
        very bravely went to the bear and quickly shot him with a pistol six
        times in a row, and the bear only growled and crushed Ku-So-Ti's chest, as if
        it was an egg, and as if honey from a bee's nest spread on its ground
        brain.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 8 2021 11: 37
          +3
          Quote: Cowbra
          No, in the sense of "Now we know that you shouldn't go after a bear with a revolver"

          Well, maybe only in relation to hunting what ... And so, the statement is dubious, knowing how Dubrovsky dealt with the bear in self-defense ... And mind you - not with a revolver, but single-shot pocket miniature "toy".

  10. HAM
    HAM April 8 2021 10: 47
    +1
    As it is even dumb (sorry, for such a word) to discuss another stupidity .......
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 8 2021 11: 48
      +5
      Quote: HAM
      It's kind of creepy (sorry, for such a word) to discuss another stupidity .......

      What do you apologize for? request Tea around is not muslin young ladies ...
  11. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. April 8 2021 10: 48
    +1
    How is Kiev going to pay for British loans?
    At whose expense is the banquet?
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 8 2021 10: 49
    +2
    "Putin is trapped" because of UK plans to build boats for the Ukrainian Navy
    The British, against the background of Russophobia and a desire to humiliate our country and the president, have sunk to outright nonsense (although they have sinned with this before). Is the GDP trapped because of the 8 boats that are just being built? Will Ukraine use boats to restrain Russia's activity in the Black Sea? Isn't it funny yourself?
  13. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell April 8 2021 10: 50
    +5
    It is pointed out that the Russian president "probably does not even know that he was trapped because of Britain's plans to build several boats for the Ukrainian Navy."

    An excellent example of how foreign policy measures cover up economic interests: the Brits are in their gesheft, and we are glad that the 404s are jumping for joy again - a whole UK prime minister makes such speeches, oh, how nice ... it will be for the Brits to collect a loan lol
    And VGK, I think about such statements to him on the run reported to cheer up ...
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha April 8 2021 11: 51
      0
      and we are glad that the 404s are jumping for joy again - a whole UK prime minister makes such speeches
      yes, Poroshenko in his New Year's greetings mentioned "we have become friends with America"))
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell April 8 2021 13: 12
        +1
        Quote: Igoresha
        Poroshenko in his New Year's greetings mentioned "we became friends with America"))

        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        a whole UK prime minister makes such speeches ...

        One thing I can't understand, I just refuse - does anyone on the territory of the Union really believe the sugary statements of Western politicians: they are followed by bankers, industrialists, merchants and their goals are completely transparent: gesheft, squeeze out ... we have a lot of examples in the Baltic states are looking for
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha April 8 2021 17: 37
          0
          as if something is being sprayed, people believe in all sorts of garbage and everywhere
          https://hippy-end.livejournal.com/4090329.html замечательная статья про Грузию - колемся об кактус, злимся но на выборах голосуем
  14. Revolver
    Revolver April 8 2021 10: 54
    +3
    "Putin is trapped"
    Does Putin know this?
  15. akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound April 8 2021 11: 05
    +1
    And I would give them a battleship in order to strengthen the Tsegabon fleet! I would not even sell, but gave it as a gift!
    I remember that when the Banderzyan women, due to a misunderstanding, still had Tu-160s, then, according to the command flight personnel of Viskovo-obitryannyh forces (there was a case for a glass of tea), simply raising the sides (remaining in a flightable state) into the air on alarm burned without a trace the entire year the limit of all the air forces of ukraine! Where is the class!
  16. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan April 8 2021 11: 10
    +2
    Boats with anti-ship missile weapons are certainly not a trap for Russia, but the threat is real, given that VOs often write that the air defense of our corvettes, to put it mildly, is not very effective against the attack of several anti-ship missiles at the same time.

    If so, then we need to improve the air defense of our corvettes as soon as possible.
    1. Dimide
      Dimide April 8 2021 13: 31
      -3
      At least one reasonable comment
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 April 8 2021 11: 11
    0
    The British newspaper said that "Putin is trapped" because of the UK's plans to build boats for the Ukrainian Navy
    So the next, the next ... so by 2023, the next one can also roll up, but it's NOT SMALL !!! He is such a "friend of the Sultan", so expect a GREAT SHIT from him.
    1. cniza
      cniza April 8 2021 12: 11
      +3
      Good time! hi

      Everyone has a dream to trap us ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 8 2021 12: 29
        +2
        Welcome soldier
        Dreams are one thing, but to have an OPPORTUNITY is completely different.
        In other times, under other rulers, the "sultans" were clearly explained how they were WRONG!
        Who can now explain something to the "incomprehensible". how wrong is he?
        So that event did not happen, but everything is heading towards that!
        1. cniza
          cniza April 8 2021 12: 43
          +3
          They can only shit, and then with caution, our patience is not unlimited ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 8 2021 12: 45
            +1
            With the "sultan" everything is very serious ... precisely because he is listed ... but don’t understand how he is counted, we are at the top.
  18. Captain45
    Captain45 April 8 2021 11: 33
    +1
    I remember in 2015 the British already delivered to Ukraine a dozen armored vehicles of the 70s, which at one time the Britons drove across Northern Ireland. So half of those armored cars broke down on the road, and the other half overturned into a ditch. I don't even want to think about what will happen to the boats. Most likely they will be drowned with all the contents, although the contents do not sink. lol
  19. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist April 8 2021 11: 34
    0
    That is, during the decade of confronting the Yankees and defending the right to their own opinion and independence of the Russian Federation was not trapped, but now the small-shavens have driven it into the trap? Only 007 had a hand in this ingenious operation. This Anglo-Saxon dirty trick has forgotten how it nurtured and incited German National Socialism in the USSR and how it all ended. Now the same thing is happening with second-hand (former Ukraine), but on a smaller scale.
  20. xorek
    xorek April 8 2021 11: 43
    -1
    Always, when I read such articles of British publications, I remember this video and laugh to tears .. As everything is to the point, albeit an old video .. laughing wassat crying

    Now again elections are coming soon and everything is in the old circle of these "best minds of Europe")))))
  21. xomaNN
    xomaNN April 8 2021 12: 01
    +3
    Those. can we expect the next "Great Kerch campaign-2" in 3-2 years? With the same result, or at the bottom of the Black Sea, a couple of new uk..r will appear. cutters with holes?
  22. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 8 2021 12: 06
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    . the Ukrainian strategy for the development of the navy until 2025 will be implemented with the help of the United Kingdom and the United States.

    Nobody knows what will happen in 2025.
  23. cniza
    cniza April 8 2021 12: 06
    +2
    Some Britons directly argue that by 2024 Russia will have seized Ukraine, so it makes no sense to set such delivery dates for boats.


    Don't grab her, she herself ...
  24. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer April 8 2021 12: 13
    -1
    I like the wording: "the capabilities are not comparable"))) one country has a fleet, the other does not, how is their capabilities compared?)))
  25. Charik
    Charik April 8 2021 12: 47
    -2
    Putin is not trapped, he is in a bunker and he dances on your pelvis
  26. Niko
    Niko April 8 2021 13: 14
    -2
    The quite normal reaction of readers - "healthy humor" (albeit British.) Draws attention to ourselves. I wish we could also learn to react to the articles of OUR overly zealous scribblers, based on inventions and unreliable information.
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  28. iouris
    iouris April 8 2021 13: 51
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    "Putin is trapped" means that the Ukrainian Navy will not need it.
    1. Ilya Nikitich
      Ilya Nikitich April 8 2021 14: 18
      +1
      You have six mistakes in the word "Putin", it is correct to write biden ...
  29. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 8 2021 13: 54
    0
    It is the UK that has fallen into the trap. They will see the bald devil, they will find someone to contact.
  30. Ilya Nikitich
    Ilya Nikitich April 8 2021 14: 02
    0
    I’m just wondering, what are the difficulties of translating English-Mova-Russian? Why is the gluing (vulcanization) of rubber products called construction ???
  31. businessv
    businessv April 8 2021 14: 05
    0
    Indeed, to argue that a few boats will become a trap for a huge nuclear power and its president is too much even for modern Western propaganda.
    Duc for England, the area of ​​which is 2.5 times smaller than the square, is an interesting subject who can be milked, and most importantly, this subject is not at all opposed to being milked, unlike the former colonies. Potroshenko stuffed loans into his pockets, and this fruit drives the country into debt in a different way.
  32. Ilya Nikitich
    Ilya Nikitich April 8 2021 14: 09
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    According to my (far from complete) calculations, this is the 1237th trap for Putin. In addition, 948 black marks and 1042 red lines were shown to Putin ...
  33. Jaromir
    Jaromir April 8 2021 16: 15
    +1
    overkill even for modern western propaganda

    It's not overkill for them. For them, such statements have become commonplace. They live in their own illusory world
  34. Jaromir
    Jaromir April 8 2021 17: 12
    +4
    New ships, according to the British attaché, are needed by Ukraine to curb Russian activity in the Black Sea

    What's the trap? In boats? So maybe this is a trap for Zelensky? bully
  35. filalex79
    filalex79 April 8 2021 19: 01
    +1
    "The British newspaper said that" Putin is trapped "because of the plans of Great Britain to build boats for the Ukrainian Navy" - LITTLE !!! laughing
  36. Basarev
    Basarev April 8 2021 21: 44
    -1
    We shouldn't rest on our laurels either. The fleet itself is not in the best shape. First of all, you need to cover the coast and only then meddle in the distant sea and ocean zones. Now is not the time to dream of aircraft carriers. The fleet needs frigates and many non-belligerent ships - staff, hospital, supplies ... Warships are just the top of the huge rear pyramid.
  37. yfast
    yfast April 8 2021 22: 19
    +1
    Present an aircraft carrier to Ukraine.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 9 2021 01: 27
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      yfast (u)
      Yesterday, 22: 19
      NEW
      +1
      Present an aircraft carrier to Ukraine.
      Natsiks will resell it during the transition. wink
  38. Kapkan
    Kapkan April 8 2021 22: 26
    0
    If you make out the title of the article, then it's funny above each phrase:
    The British edition stated,

    "Putin is trapped"

    due to UK plans to build boats

    The Ukrainian Navy
    1. Radius
      Radius April 9 2021 05: 24
      0
      Any lumpy condom has the right to think of itself as an airship!
  39. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 April 8 2021 23: 00
    +1
    The mosquito fleet in skillful hands, especially in the closed sea, can inflict damage only in the first and last salvo.
    Solidarity with the members of the forum about the gift of the UkrVMF aircraft carrier type DR Ford - a gift from kings !!! wink if they really do not immediately drive him at the price of scrap metal ...
    Much greater concern is the oversight of the Ukrainian issue by the British special services, it looks like their ears in the murders of prominent LPNR commanders ?!
  40. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 9 2021 01: 26
    +1
    "He probably doesn't even know that he was trapped because of Britain's plans to build several boats for the Ukrainian Navy."
    insolent stupidity can not be denied. Sank much below the baseboard. There it is dear to them!
  41. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 9 2021 18: 50
    0
    winked The logic of British journalists is somehow strange. Which of the unbuilt vessels is a trap? And they do not pull these boats into a trap. They simply won't be noticed. winked
  42. Hagen
    Hagen April 9 2021 21: 01
    0
    Ukraine was trapped. All that will go to help her from Britain, Turkey and the United States will go for the money of future generations of Ukrainians. Loans will have to be repaid one day. And military equipment, as you know, does not bear anything except costs during its operation. But just in the rise of production, the aforementioned "assistants" did not promise help, but in fact they only put sticks in the wheels. That's where the trap is.