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Updating tactical aviation of Ukraine: plans and opportunities

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Ukrainian MiG-29. Photo of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine


Based on the results of well-known processes and events of recent decades, tactical aviation The Ukrainian Air Force is in poor condition. The number of combat-ready aircraft is small and there are tendencies for its reduction; their full-fledged operation is difficult or impossible. To solve these problems, a new rearmament program is proposed, but its implementation will face serious difficulties.

Current state


According to known data, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have seven brigades of tactical aviation. These formations are armed with Su-27 and MiG-29 fighters of several modifications, Su-25 attack aircraft, as well as Su-24M bombers and their reconnaissance version "MR". In addition, some brigades have L-39 training aircraft and various types of military transport vehicles.

According to The Military Balance 2021, there are currently approx. 125 combat-ready aircraft. This number includes 37 MiG-29 fighters and approx. 34 Su-27; 31 Su-24 attack aircraft; 14 Su-24M bombers and 9 Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft. Also, the authors of the publication counted 31 L-39 aircraft.


Safe Skies 2011 joint exercises. Ukrainian Su-27s in the foreground; behind them, an American F-16C is landing. Photo by US Air Force

The latest World Air Force guide from Flight International magazine gives similar, but different numbers. The number of Su-27 fighters is set at 32 units, MiG-29 - 24 units. The total number of Su-25 - 13 units, Su-24 - 12 units. At the same time, the presence of 47 training L-39 is indicated. Thus, the combat-ready fleet includes 128 aircraft.

In different sources, data on the state of Ukrainian tactical aviation differ markedly. However, all sources agree that the number of combat-ready aircraft is small. In addition, all the available machines were built in Soviet times and are close to developing a resource. The inability to carry out a full-fledged repair and modernization exacerbates this state of affairs.

Air Force Vision


In May 2020, the Plan "Visits of the Power Forces 2035" ("Vision of the Air Force 2035") was adopted, proposing measures for the development of Ukrainian aviation for the next decade and a half. One of the main goals of the plan is the gradual replacement of existing equipment of a large age with promising aircraft. It is proposed to replace the entire fleet of MiG and Su fighters, bombers and reconnaissance aircraft with a single multi-functional fighter of the 4 ++ generation.

This replacement will be carried out in two stages. The first should be completed by 2025 and lay the foundations for future work. Within its framework, in 2021-22. it is necessary to conduct a tender and select an aircraft with the most favorable performance ratio. This will be followed by a contract for a limited number of vehicles, from 6 to 12 units. They are going to be received in 2023-25. and put into trial operation.


Su-24M and L-39 from the 7th tactical brigade. Photo of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

Upon receipt of positive results, the rearmament program will move to the second stage, designed for 2025-35. During this period, massive purchases of aircraft will be carried out, 8-12 units each. annually. By the end of the decade, this will make it possible to obtain at least 30-35 fighters and partially replace the decommissioned equipment. By 2030, at least two brigades of tactical aviation should completely switch to advanced technology.

By 2035, it is planned to complete the upgrade of tactical aviation. By this time, 72 to 108 new "single" fighters will be in service. Their exact number will be determined later, taking into account financial and other possibilities. It is easy to see that the plans provide for a reduction in the total number of combat aviation. However, modern or advanced aircraft will make it possible to compensate for the reduction in quantity at the expense of improved quality.

It is expected that the rearmament of the Air Force will be quite expensive and difficult. So, for tactical aviation alone, you will have to spend approx. UAH 200 billion - approx. 6,5 billion euros. At the same time, there are no guarantees that the cost of the program will not increase and / or it will not have to be reduced for reasons of economy.

Airplane selection


Despite the presence of several aircraft and aircraft repair plants, Ukraine does not have the competence to create and build combat aircraft. Updating tactical aviation will have to be carried out only through the purchase of foreign equipment. At the same time, the plane for further purchases has not yet been selected - and even the approximate circle of applicants for future contracts remains unknown.


French fighter Rafale. Photo by Dassault Aviation

Recently, representatives of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense have raised the topic of possible purchases of foreign fighter-bombers several times. The possibility of purchasing American aircraft F-15 (including the latest modification of the F-15EX), F-16V or F / A-18E / F was indicated. The most daring statements even mention the F-35. Purchase of Swedish JAS 39E / F is also possible. At the end of March, it became known that France intends to offer Ukraine its Rafale fighters.

Paris is already taking steps to stimulate interest from Kiev, according to French press reports. The planes are proposed to be sold on credit, and the French government is ready to provide government guarantees in the amount of 1,5 billion euros - 85% of the estimated value of the contract.

The interest of other aircraft manufacturers in the Ukrainian program has not yet been reported. Probably, American and Swedish aircraft manufacturers are ready to respond to Ukraine's request, but they will not be the first to offer their products.

Plans and opportunities


In the near future, Ukraine should hold a tender and select an aircraft for further purchases. The choice will not be easy; the rearmament program may be affected by various factors, primarily the issue of funding. A poor country will have to find a lot of money for rearmament, and not only the Air Force needs to be updated.


Swedish fighter JAS 39E. Saab Photos

According to current plans, by 2035 Ukraine will receive at least 72 tactical aircraft with a total cost of approx. 6,5 billion euros. It is easy to calculate that in this case the cost of one side should not exceed 90 million euros. Buying more aircraft will require an increase in budget - or a reduction in the maximum cost of equipment.

In terms of cost, one of the most advantageous is the Swedish JAS 39E / F fighter. Depending on the configuration and other conditions, a single JAS 39E can cost from 70-72 million euros or more. French Rafale under certain conditions can cost at least 140-150 million euros. Other modern fighters in terms of cost occupy an intermediate position between them.

If in 2021-22. it will be possible to fulfill part of the current plans and select an aircraft for further purchases, then by the middle of the decade the equipment of the first batch will have time to enter trial operation. The further course of rearmament will depend on these measures. In case of a positive development of events, 8-12 fighters of the first contract will confirm their technical and operational characteristics, which will allow placing new orders.


The last modification of the American F-15 is the F-15EX. Boeing graphics

If the new aircraft do not perform well - either due to the design or due to insufficient competence of the operators - a new competition may be required to select the next aircraft, more fully consistent with Ukrainian capabilities and realities. This will lead to additional spending, to a shift in the timing of the rearmament program, as well as to the preservation of the de-uniformity of the aircraft fleet in the short and long term.

Soon


The military and political leadership of Ukraine plans to carry out several major rearmament programs, one of which is to radically change the quantitative and qualitative indicators of the Air Force. Currently, Ukrainian aviation is facing the problem of gradual degradation, and it is necessary to take action as soon as possible.

The proposed modernization program is capable of changing the situation for the better. However, a number of objective factors characteristic of modern Ukraine can hinder its timely and full-scale implementation. In the near future, a competition for the selection of a "single fighter" should start, and it can be expected that this event will already show the real state of affairs and the actual capabilities of the Ukrainian army. At the same time, it will make it possible to make predictions for the further development of events.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 8 2021 04: 15
    +19
    it is proposed to replace with a single multi-functional fighter of the 4 ++ generation
    Are you tired of Indian songs and dances? Please welcome! Purchasing hopak and howling on the theme "Pidmanuli nenku ..." !!
    1. Sergey_G_M
      Sergey_G_M April 8 2021 04: 36
      +10
      Only a hopak without pants. India had money for planes. They can sing a lot, only until 2035 is for these singers the same as infinity (no longer the current singers will answer)
      1. Cheshire
        Cheshire April 8 2021 06: 16
        -1
        Quote: Sergey_G_M
        Only a hopak without pants.

        Well this is suggestive wassat
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 8 2021 06: 58
          +10
          Quote: Sergey_G_M
          Only a hopak without pants.


          Quote: Cheshire
          Well this is suggestive wassat


          Do you doubt that the lords, who are in the view of the deerzhavi for aviation, will save, and will not be able to repeat the feat of the ladies in Dubai?

          They will dance without bloomers yes

          1. Black lotos
            Black lotos April 8 2021 23: 53
            -1
            Quote: Insurgent
            feat of ladies in Dubai

            out of 40 participants (there are both Russians and citizens of the Republic of Belarus and 11 Ukrainian women), 12 girls were arrested (by the way, young ones) and 8 of them are Ukrainian. From a model agency in Kiev. And the photographer, the organizer of the filming, a Russian businessman, faces a more severe punishment - a year and a half in prison and a $ 14 fine.
            By the way, they regularly participate in photosets at various points. For example, five of them had previously been on a set in Bukovel.
            Here is the "Brotherly symbiosis" of the modeling business.
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 April 9 2021 00: 59
              0
              Quote: Black Lotos
              out of 40 participants (there are both Russians and citizens of the Republic of Belarus and 11 Ukrainian women), 12 girls were arrested (by the way, young ones) and 8 of them are Ukrainian.

              According to the latest data received from the police of the Emirates, there are no Russian women among the detained girls. A Russian was detained. According to the police, they suspect him of being one of those who were the authors of the entire event.

              Consulate General of Russia in the UAE

              Updated at 16:24:
              The Consulate General of Russia in Dubai said that there were no Russian women among those arrested for nude filming, the investigation was going on only in relation to the Russian organizer of the filming. According to Mash, among the detainees are 12 girls from Ukraine and the CIS countries and Russian Aleksey Kontsov, who is also suspected of distributing pornography on social networks.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov April 9 2021 15: 24
                -2
                Ukrovlast's plans are grandiose, of course. As well as space exploration! fellow Only, I'm afraid they won't have time ... laughing laughing laughing
          2. Yuri Vasilenko
            Yuri Vasilenko 19 June 2021 07: 30
            0
            Yes, only 8 of them are racially faithful and pure Russians, but this is not surprising.
            Proofs? It's not hard
            https://www.google.com/amp/s/ria.ru/amp/20210405/dubay-1604254992.html
      2. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev April 8 2021 08: 14
        +5
        A Ukrainian has a small brain and does not hold information for more than a week. After 5 years, a new thief will announce that they will buy by 2040, etc.
        1. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow April 9 2021 13: 52
          -1
          The late father, at whom the Bandera fighters fired, said that Ukrainians had their brains turned off before lunch and did not work in the afternoon.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 8 2021 04: 54
      +6
      until 2035 Ukraine will receive at least 72 tactical aircraft with a total cost of approx. 6,5 billion euros
      I love their plans huge! wassat
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 April 8 2021 05: 04
        +4
        As soon as the debts are settled, the IMF, China and other creditors will immediately begin to buy litaki outside the cordon smile
        1. Sofa batyr
          Sofa batyr April 8 2021 05: 28
          +5
          Air Force Vision


          "You are a stranger, God, without giving me some krill?"



          The Lord saved us both from the "Ukrainian falcons" and from the Bandera-Cossack with a nuclear club.

          It is scary to imagine what we could face if Ukraine had a modern arsenal of weapons at its disposal ...
          1. dumkopff
            dumkopff April 8 2021 14: 05
            +5
            Had Ukraine at its disposal a modern arsenal of weapons, it would have enriched a number of officials indescribably, who would have sold it all off.
          2. NIKN
            NIKN April 8 2021 20: 10
            0
            Quote: Divan-batyr
            have Ukraine at your disposal a modern arsenal of weapons ...

            So everyone had, the question here is how much someone could earn on this.
            / With regard to this topic. I don’t even see any plausible activity of wanting to actually acquire technology. In this case, to:, 5 billion needs at least another half to be added to the infrastructure for maintenance and training of specialists, and that's not all ... Here, as already noted above, a course is taken to try to pidman and cut someone. Not real plans from the word at all, but that someone who can tear himself off on this is the goal.
      2. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow April 9 2021 13: 53
        0
        The lords have plans ... a huge one!
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ April 11 2021 21: 12
          +1
          Quote: serezhasoldatow
          The lords have plans ... a huge one!

          in terms of GDP and population, Ukraine is comparable to South Africa ... South Africa has 30 new influenza ... accordingly, Ukraine can afford 50-70 flu ...
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 8 2021 06: 42
      +6
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Are you tired of Indian songs and dances? Please welcome! Purchasing hopak and howling on the theme "Pidmanuli nenku ..." !!


      Attention! yes But only - "The devil is in the details", subtle, barely perceptible details that become clear only upon careful examination

      They write:

      In May 2020, the plan was adopted “Vіzії Powers of the Power 2035 "(" Vision of the Air Force 2035 ")


      What is this " Vіzії "such that they really mean, replacing the customary in the outskirts of the movi" Bachennya "(derived from bachichi - see) ???

      Opening the "Tlumachny Glossary" - Explanatory Dictionary

      News Online Dictionary of Ukrainian Movies (2013-2018)

      Visia
      візія, -ї, zhіn.
      1. The image, which stands at the testimony, in the uyavi chi uvі snі; vidinnya.
      What is it? Phantasmagoriyna viziya? The clarity of the maybutny, of the one who is pricked up? (Suchasnist, 1968, No. 3);
      At the stringy pliny hallucination, in the form of a fantasies there is a prophet in the end of one more .. land .. (Vira Ageeva // Naukovi zapiski, 2007, vol. 72);
      In uyavi Motrі there is a change of hearts ... Ah, yak tse garno bulo b, yakbi notareva is not small briluvatoy figuri (Irina Vilde, Na porozi, 1955, 25);
      Kilka Virshiv, bred to the city of the [empty place], I published as early as 1986 as a butsimto “Chornobil's cycle” .. (Oksana Zabuzhko, Z mapi books and people, 2012).



      The latest online dictionary of the Ukrainian language (2013-2018)

      Vision
      vision, - th, wives.
      1. An image that arises in consciousness, in imagination or in a dream; visions.
      What is it? Phantasmagoric vision? Enlightenment of the future, of what should happen someday?
      (Modernity, 1968, No. 3);
      In a motley stream of hallucinations, images or fantasies, a prophetic vision of the death of yet another ... country appears. (Vera Ageeva // Scientific notes, 2007, T. 72);
      In Motri's imagination, a vision of red clouds looms ... Oh, how beautiful it would be if Notareva did not have a lumpy figure (Irina Vilde, on the threshold, 1955, 25);
      Several poems, generated by this vision [of an empty city], I published after 1986, as if the "Chernobyl cycle" .. (Oksana Zabuzhko, Z mapi books and people, 2012).
      1. mmaxx
        mmaxx April 8 2021 11: 56
        +1
        This is clearly a directory of incorrect Ukrainian. There are several of them. Can't agree laughing
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 8 2021 12: 00
          +3
          Quote: mmaxx
          This is clearly a directory of incorrect Ukrainian. There are several of them. Can't agree

          Not a single reference book will help a confused consciousness, for it will be understood and interpreted incorrectly.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ April 9 2021 12: 17
            0
            Quote: Insurgent
            Not a single reference book will help a confused consciousness, for it will be understood and interpreted incorrectly.

            sir speaks the truth !!!!!
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 8 2021 04: 52
    +1
    Are the French masochistic at heart? Doesn't the surname Yanukovych tell them anything? Everyone who in uk-roine has at least some relation to the authorities, and to money the same Yanukovychs in life-to take money, beautifully lie from three boxes, and get out of the vuk-rii away from sin.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 8 2021 05: 29
      +1
      And this is their development ..
      1. Sofa batyr
        Sofa batyr April 8 2021 05: 31
        +5
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        And this is their development ..

        Latest news yes Biogas, "Green Technologies" (from the last name WELensky).
      2. novel66
        novel66 April 8 2021 07: 23
        +2
        more fully corresponding to Ukrainian opportunities and realities

        there is a variant!

        Volodya! hi
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee April 8 2021 07: 38
          -2
          Quote: novel xnumx
          variance!

          This is cool for them! Will not pull ...
          Roma hi
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 8 2021 07: 53
          +3
          Quote: novel xnumx
          there is a variant!


          So and so, "imported variant", overseas.

          The Rogallo wing is a flexible wing type that has become the prototype of the hang glider.

          In 1948, Gertrude Rogallo and her husband Francis Rogallo, a NASA engineer, invented a delta flex wing, which they called the Paraglider, also known as the Rogallo Wing.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ April 8 2021 22: 33
            +1
            Rogallo Wing

            I read about him in "Technology-Youth" in the first half of the 60s. There was even a variant of its use for the return vehicle of the Dzhemeni spacecraft.
  3. Tsoy
    Tsoy April 8 2021 06: 03
    +6
    After the collapse of the Union, Ukraine had the second largest air army. Thousands of units. Terer is a shadow from the past.
    The new aircraft is not only the board itself, it is a preparation from scratch for pilots and technicians, but since the choice will, for obvious reasons, towards the west, it is still more complicated. The standards are different. New weapons, spare parts, maintenance equipment. The amount of incidental costs is multiples of the aircraft itself. Many people call Gripen the best candidate, only a lot of money is needed. It is better to take the F-16 as Romania.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 8 2021 06: 15
      -2
      Quote: Choi
      just need a lot of money

      Which they don't have! crying
    2. Egoza
      Egoza April 8 2021 07: 01
      -1
      Quote: Choi
      The amount of incidental costs is multiples of the aircraft itself. Many people call Gripen the best candidate, only a lot of money is needed. It is better to take the F-16 as Romania.

      Better yet, wait and groan with outstretched hand. Maybe they will give them written off to NATO. All are not for new pay, it is cheaper and will come out
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 8 2021 07: 24
        +2
        and not to fly them anyway lol
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee April 8 2021 09: 24
          +3
          Dyvis, as the forelocks were offended, they thrust all the minuses ... lol
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 8 2021 10: 26
            +2
            let them slander!
      2. Revolver
        Revolver April 8 2021 10: 32
        0
        "Where is the money, Zin?" © V. Vysotsky
      3. atos_kin
        atos_kin April 8 2021 12: 16
        -1
        Quote: Egoza
        Maybe they will be written off to NATO

        inflatable, like boats, airplanes
  4. ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 April 8 2021 07: 00
    +3
    Why Su24 suddenly became an attack aircraft. Frontline bomber! And why they have so little Su24m, if only 56 bads were all on emkas. Have you dried out?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 8 2021 07: 55
      +3
      Quote: ermak124.0
      why they have so little Su24m, if only 56 bads were all on emkas. Have you dried out?

      Doubt about your abilities?
  5. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 April 8 2021 07: 10
    +2
    India bought 36 rafal fighters for a little more money. Why did they settle down to buy two or three times as many planes for less?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver April 8 2021 10: 33
      -1
      So they always strive to buy dimes for a penny. True, something does not work out very well.
  6. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky April 8 2021 07: 59
    +1
    Here, just the other day, some kind of mattress was drawing by the name of Blank, expressed the initiative that the assistance provided to Ukraine is small and the United States needs to transfer 100 fighters from conservation to ukrohuntik, which in his opinion - "Will hurt Moscow" and, like, will send an unambiguous signal that " Ameryka with them "and" Russia must change its malicious tactics towards Western countries and their allies. Whether the initiative will reach the practical implementation of figs knows him, but the fact that the mattresses intend to make something combat-ready out of this rabble is obvious.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver April 8 2021 10: 42
      +1
      Not. Ukrainians are white, and under the current US administration, whites are pushed to the back of the line, after blacks, colored people, and LGBTQs. Maybe if they send Lyashka the cockerel to negotiate litakas, it will come out, at the same time he will take part in the rainbow parades. Although not, and there may be a bummer, last year's parades were canceled due to the virus. So all that he brings will be his usual "brav in the mouth."
    2. Sayan
      Sayan April 9 2021 08: 08
      -1
      You also need to see who will be hurt by the delivery of 100 planes (if it happens) to Moscow or Kuev whose kerosene is dumb))))
  7. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze April 8 2021 08: 03
    0
    Ukraine will receive at least 72 tactical aircraft with a total cost of approx. 6,5 billion euros.


    Yeah ... wait .... The cost of the aircraft is generally a small part of the rearmament. We paid $ 1,2 billion not so much for the F16 eight as for infrastructure upgrades, training of technicians and pilots, weapons, repair capabilities, etc.

    And the new Rafali and F15EX generally have exorbitant prices. Our President somehow rode a Rafal and licked his lips about buying this car, but it turned out to be painfully expensive and took the F16.
    1. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev April 8 2021 08: 13
      0
      It remains to understand: why are they needed at all? You want to ruin a country, donate an aircraft carrier, you want to ruin a small country, get in an F16 or some other American plane. Next will be the cost of weapons, spare parts, fuel, etc.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze April 8 2021 08: 35
        -4
        It remains to understand: why are they needed at all?


        But now we will close our air force, because you cannot understand why we need them.

        wanna ruin a little country, fuck the F16


        The F16 is generally cheaper than the Mig 29 in terms of maintenance and repair. And for a small country, that's the very thing.

        And in general, try to ruin a small country with a growing economy every year, where several billion euros is money for seeds. And the EU is pouring money into the economies of countries in incredible amounts.
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 April 8 2021 12: 14
          +2
          The MiG-29 eats a little more fuel. But spare parts for it are several times cheaper. So the operation is hardly more expensive.
          The engine from the mig-29 costs about $ 2,5 million. And try to find the cost of the engine for Ф16 and so on in everything.
        2. max702
          max702 April 8 2021 13: 42
          -1
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          The F16 is generally cheaper than the Mig 29 in terms of maintenance and repair. And for a small country, that's the very thing.

          Have you ever encountered the maintenance of bourgeois equipment? Apparently not, otherwise such nonsense would not have been carried out ... The bourgeoisie business is not on the equipment itself (it can be given almost free of charge) but on maintenance, modernization and other related services .. And yes, the infrastructure for the F-16 personnel and flight lifting personnel are also in availability? Humble your barn, manure and pigs, that's your lot ..
        3. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev April 8 2021 19: 31
          +1
          You really do not understand what I wrote about the need for the F16 for Ukraine? I feel sorry for you.
          If 22 million (Mig 29) is less than 35 (F16) less means less. And now let's compare the operating costs: the cost of an hour of flight of the MiG29 is lower than that of the F16 (although no one knows for sure), plus American missiles, spare parts, repairs are fucking cheaper.
    2. Thorvlobnor IV
      Thorvlobnor IV April 8 2021 13: 37
      +1
      Bulgaria bought quality workhorses, a great choice, but ... Bulgaria is not at war.
      Zelensky, in theory, should now shoot one high-ranking corrupt official a day in order to please Biden, and he should approve the tsarist discount on the F-15EX for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. You won't even need a lot of them: they will be used exclusively as interceptors (22 AIM-120s on the suspension are forks). Well, or Macron will make an even more delicious proposal for Rafale - this is also a great interceptor with excellent Meteor BB missiles. And shock functions will be given to drones (like Bayraktar) and high-precision surface-to-surface missiles (like Alder, Neptune and Thunder-2).
      1. Hanurik
        Hanurik April 8 2021 18: 39
        0
        The Americans will never sell their fighters to the Ukrainians, knowing how much they love to shoot down civilian planes.
  8. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev April 8 2021 08: 11
    +3
    The main fantastic book of Ukraine: "How well everything will be ... in 10 years". Ukraine has no money either for airplanes, let alone for maintenance and flights, and never will.
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 8 2021 08: 29
    0
    So far, at best - Pakistani FT-17, not the latest versions. But there is a turbojet engine - RD-93.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 8 2021 11: 09
      -2
      In "AiV" of the times of Pasechnik or Profesor, there was an analysis of possible variants of the aircraft of the future for the Ukrainian Air Force. They agreed that the optimal main aircraft would be the Chinese UBS L-15 (plus a certain number of modernized Su-27s for high-quality amplification).
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 8 2021 11: 13
        -1
        I remember the hot correspondence ... but I already think that this is the L-39 in more modern versions and, some sort of, shock with a propeller. Provided that the Ukrainians themselves make it
    2. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 April 8 2021 12: 20
      -3
      In general, they are Chinese, and for Ukraine, Chinese planes should be in the first place when choosing. Firstly, the price, and secondly, many weapons are compatible with those that are already in use and are in warehouses. Missiles are even being manufactured, and Chinese planes can take them on board.
      But this is how they would have acted if they had independence. And they are now American Vasals.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 8 2021 12: 36
        -1
        Are these the very Chinese that the Ukrainians threw on the engines?
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 April 8 2021 12: 37
          0
          They threw it loudly. They were told not to, they did it.
        2. Black lotos
          Black lotos April 8 2021 23: 57
          -2
          Quote: EvilLion
          Are these the very Chinese that the Ukrainians threw on the engines?

          on the Chinese UBS are Ukrainian afterburners for supersonic. Almost similar to the Yak, but not supersonic.
          Engine deliveries have always been hassle-free.
          The problem of investment by a Chinese company has little to do with the business of China itself and the MS, all the more so there is Ivchenko Progress.
  10. BAI
    BAI April 8 2021 08: 35
    -1
    The author indicated the wrong models. The United States will only allow the purchase of American aircraft.
  11. bober1982
    bober1982 April 8 2021 08: 40
    0
    The seven tactical aviation brigades mentioned in the article actually exist only on paper, they certainly sound beautiful and menacing - in a foreign manner, but in fact they are just signs under which flightless planes and all kinds of rabble are gathered, which only "spins" on the airfield and Around him.
    Our former fellow citizens are rushing about, chatting about new planes, not understanding what they are talking about.
    1. Vovk
      Vovk April 8 2021 09: 26
      +1
      Thanks to the author, he was able to collect information from open sources and draw interesting conclusions.
      The only thing that besides the modernization of aviation, it is necessary to consider its equipment - weapons.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 April 8 2021 09: 48
        +1
        Quote: Vovk
        it is necessary to consider its equipment - weapons.

        Lviv repair base, does not sit in sydney, works - all MiG-29MU29 ++ will be equipped with the Kh-2T
  12. mmaxx
    mmaxx April 8 2021 11: 52
    -1
    The first of April seems to have passed ...
  13. xomaNN
    xomaNN April 8 2021 12: 06
    -1
    Let the French "Rafale!" choose. They are just expensive in the service staff. therefore, 5 pcs. all the money is enough. A couple of them will be ditched by themselves due to poor training of pilots and a shitty airfield unit. The remaining 3 will be raised once a year for parades.
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer April 8 2021 12: 24
      -2
      I'm afraid that the French appetites, Banderasty will not "pull"))) they have not yet waited for Sabakov's helicopters)))
  14. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer April 8 2021 12: 23
    -2
    I want to note that an airplane that can take off and an airplane that can perform combat missions is not the same thing))) taking off and making a circle over the airfield is one thing. To take off with the maximum combat load, to "cut in" the afterburner several times, to maneuver with overloads of 5 - 8 G - this is completely different)))
  15. Glagol1
    Glagol1 April 8 2021 12: 32
    0
    They will not pull either 108 or 72 by themselves. I think the puppeteers will offer them 48-60 used decommissioned ones for free, but with paid upgrades. Something like the F-16, from the lineup, upgraded to some level. On board, heavy repairs + modernization will be 20-25 million, well, here's a yard of green for a circle with a tail for 5-7 years. They will pull it. Well, more rockets (paid of course).
    And everyone is happy:
    Puppeteers drop old stuff, but make money on upgrades and missiles.
    The natives will switch to the correct fighters and approach 5 mm to here.
    And 10 years of operation ahead, and what's next - but who knows ...
  16. iouris
    iouris April 8 2021 12: 33
    -2
    And until what date will this Nazi Euro-state exist?
  17. Stepan S
    Stepan S April 8 2021 20: 32
    -1
    The impossibility of carrying out a full-fledged repair and modernization exacerbates this state of affairs.

    And that paint has run out in Ukraine? This is the first thing in modernization.
  18. Maksim_ok
    Maksim_ok April 12 2021 13: 07
    0
    Two Gripen are better than one Rafale. and even more profitable are the decommissioned Dutch F-16s
  19. Darkness
    Darkness April 12 2021 20: 58
    0
    It would be better if you had better sleep for free sho then used, otherwise dengu soprut-100%
  20. Nikolai Redko
    Nikolai Redko April 14 2021 18: 56
    0
    Somehow we are all not very aware of: where does everything come from! Towards the end of 91g. was on a business trip on board "SSV-33 Ural", the so-called "industry", in the Gulf "Strelok" in Primorye. At this time, the Baltic sailors were already demobilized ahead of schedule. We said goodbye well, but it was somehow sad. The officers of the "khokhlam" began to receive letters from Ukraine from their wives and relatives that recruitment is being made to the newly organized Ukrainian Naval Forces. And I must say that most of the officers who served the "special equipment" (all these plates and balls) were graduates of air defense schools from Kiev and Zhitomir. Some of them IMMEDIATELY filed a transfer report and were fired, some "thought". This I mean: how we all were then naive idiots. What are the Navy? Who will provide it! Where are the resources! And most importantly: why the heck they need "small-town" Ukraine! So it is with aviation. Only a country claiming a GLOBAL role in the World and having for this: human, intellectual, economic resources, as well as, and most importantly, its own CONCEPT for the development of the World, is capable and should have all types and types of troops at the highest possible level of development. Ukraine is definitely not one of those! Hence the decay and collapse of both the Ukrainian Navy and
    VPSU (Vіyskovo-pravіtryanі vili Ukrainy. (Damn! It's funny to read!)). So the officers who still serve there are wasting their time. All this shnyage will come a kirdyk anyway and very soon.
  21. wadim romano
    wadim romano 12 May 2021 12: 52
    -5
    30 F-16 + HAARM missiles and militia with Russian air defense crews in LPR and DPR disappear.

    But someone must decide on this.