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The border ship Sobol was commissioned in Vladivostok

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The border ship Sobol was commissioned in VladivostokRIA News. The ceremony of raising the naval flag of the coast guard of the Federal Border Service was held on Sunday in Vladivostok on the new guard ship "Sobol", which will first go to patrol the waters of the Russian island, where the APEC summit will be held, and then take over the protection of the maritime state border of the country, told RIA News Representative of the Border Department of the Federal Security Service of Russia in the Primorsky Territory.

The annual 24 meeting of APEC leaders (the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum) will be held on September 2-9 in Vladivostok. This is the first APEC summit, which is held in Russia. The total investment in preparing for the summit was about 600 billion rubles.

"The command of the Primorsky regional Border Department of the Federal Security Service of Russia, naval border guards, representatives of the Vladivostok mayor's office took part in the solemn flag raising ceremony," the agency’s source said.


He noted that the Sobol was designed and built in St. Petersburg on the stocks of the Almaz central marine design bureau. The construction was carried out under a state contract. The displacement of the new vessel - 70 tons, develops a speed of more than 40 nodes, the crew - ten people, on the deck - 14,5-mm naval thumb machinegun.

“The new high-speed ship is intended for patrol duty in coastal waters. After the summit, the crew of the Sobol will begin patrolling coastal waters in Primorye,” the source said.
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  1. esaul
    esaul 27 August 2012 08: 55
    +2
    Good. The run-in will take place at the summit. Let it show itself, "fly" on the okiyanu sea. Let the foreign summiters look ...

    In addition, the summit, as previously reported, will be guarded by "Triumphs" and the Submarine fleet.
    1. Armata
      Armata 27 August 2012 09: 00
      +6
      Valery. Look recently, I wrote an article instead of which this freak was adopted. Article about A77 "Harpoon"
      1. esaul
        esaul 27 August 2012 09: 15
        0
        Quote: Steam Train
        instead of that freak


        Zhenya, well, CHO is so impartial? The angle of the photo is not successful, I admit it. Well, as for "Harpoon" - I remember. You raise the performance characteristics of this ship and lay it out. There will be great respect to you, buddy.
        1. Armata
          Armata 27 August 2012 09: 26
          +2
          Which one? About the harpoon article was on Friday. And for this I can lay out for comparison
          . Displacement, tons 57
          The greatest length, m 27,96
          The width is the greatest, m 4,4
          Depth to the upper deck, m 3,27
          Maximum speed, 47 nodes
          Cruising range at a speed of 40 knots, miles 500
          Fuel tank capacity, tons 6,8
          Placement of crew Xnumx
          Hull and superstructure material aluminum alloy
          2 diesel gear units Deutz TBD616V16 (1250-1360 kW).
          Two Arneson ASD14 drives.
          Duck, then after that compare A77-4. Well, or with A77-5
          And moreover, in the coastal zone the use of water jets is a priority. And on Sable open screws
  2. Senzey
    Senzey 27 August 2012 09: 06
    0
    Such news is always pleasant! More than 40 knots is strong!
    In the Far East, there are more Japanese and Chinese to drive away from the borders.
  3. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 27 August 2012 09: 20
    0
    And what an excellent boat you need ...
  4. afire
    afire 27 August 2012 09: 21
    +1
    I will not say anything request
  5. Romeohihnic
    Romeohihnic 27 August 2012 09: 22
    +3
    At present, the Almaz TsMKB team is working on the introduction of KAUI on boats and ships of projects 12200 Sobol, 12300 Scorpion, 12418, 12421 and others. A fundamentally new system of automatically controlled interceptors on a Project 12200 boat significantly reduces the amplitude of side rolling (as previously stated, the ship’s pitching level decreases by half), the boat is able to go to sea with a wave of up to 5 points, use a weapon up to 3 points and develop speed up to 48-50 knots. The system is controlled from an ACS remote control using a hydraulic actuator.
    Due to its seaworthiness and equipment, "Sobol" is capable of replacing a number of border boats in service. It is distinguished by the original design of the body made of a durable and lightweight aluminum-magnesium alloy, a diesel unit of two diesels with a total capacity of 3620 horsepower.
    1. Armata
      Armata 27 August 2012 09: 29
      +1
      Quote: Romeohihnic
      conducts work on the introduction of KAUI on boats and ships of the 12200 Sobol, 12300 Scorpio, 12418, 12421 and others projects. The fundamentally new system of automatically controlled interceptors on the 12200 project boat significantly reduces the pitching amplitude (as previously stated, the ship's pitching level is halved), the boat is able to go out to sea at excitement up to 5 points, use weapons up to 3 points and develop speed to 48-50 nodes. The system is controlled from an ACS remote control using a hydraulic actuator.
      This is not their development. They removed all this from the project A125-1. And compare the seaworthiness of a sable with a harpoon. He did not lie close.
    2. max-02215
      max-02215 28 August 2012 08: 13
      +1
      Quote: Romeohihnic
      go out to sea with excitement up to 5 points, use weapons up to 3 points

      The ship is beautiful and only, as far as I understand, it is relevant in the areas of Shikotan. Northern Kuril Islands, the Bering Islands_ to chase our and their poachers, and so, 5 points is constant weather in the autumn-winter period, and more often and more, I wonder how it will go, with such a wave of at least 30 knots? Running along the Amur Bay will go, but for serious areas IMHO is a useless toy. There used to be missile boats in Malokurilsk, I don’t remember the project, but they didn’t always catch up with the Japs, but they will be more serious than these boats
      1. Armata
        Armata 28 August 2012 09: 13
        0
        This boat is not made for the north. Such are very useful in the Baltic, Pacific Ocean, Black Sea. For the Northern Fleet, an ice-breaking type high-speed vessel is now in development (unless of course our wooden Moscow region accepts it). Now they are testing it in layouts.
  6. suomi
    suomi 27 August 2012 09: 33
    +1
    Here is more detailed:
    http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/12200_statia.html

    Here is another perspective.
    1. esaul
      esaul 27 August 2012 09: 40
      0
      Salute, Edward. Thanks for the shot. Well, well, of course this is not "Harpoon", a ship of the usual outlines and, of course, is inferior to the futuristic "Harpoon". But that won't hurt us either. Plus, Edward.
      1. Armata
        Armata 27 August 2012 10: 27
        +3
        Quote: esaul
        Well, well, of course this is not the "Harpoon", a ship of the usual outlines and, of course, inferior to the futuristic "Harpoon"
        Understand Valery. The harpoon has everything done not for beauty, but for maximum controllability and speed. In order to please the courtier of the Almaz Design Bureau, we chose the development of the late 70s and early 80s. We installed the electronics that were made for another project, and now everyone is happy "Hurray for a new ship" For the information of the author. This is not a ship, but a boat.
        1. Drednout
          Drednout 27 August 2012 21: 29
          +1
          Quote: Steam Train
          This is not a ship, but a boat.

          True to all 100% !!!
  7. Leisure
    Leisure 27 August 2012 09: 33
    0
    Borderline ship, I remember some kind of journalist, wrote about the Chinese "battleship". And here is the ship.
  8. Skiff
    Skiff 27 August 2012 10: 13
    +1
    Here is another option.
  9. TRex
    TRex 27 August 2012 10: 17
    +5
    What "ship"? Are you all blind? The boat was put into operation - full of joy pants. We have all combat units at the Black Sea Fleet "for those over 30". Soon they will be written off ... And then there is great joy - the "ship" was launched ... I have a slightly smaller boat on the lake.
    1. Armata
      Armata 27 August 2012 10: 22
      0
      Nitsche you have a boat. What is it 20 meters long?
      1. TRex
        TRex 27 August 2012 10: 51
        +1
        Have you been on warships? Walked on a deck 200 meters long? To my great regret, Abramovich's yachts are much cooler than this "ship". There are no Russian words, only mats on my mind ... UzRus said below very accurately: "A pleasure boat with a machine gun." What are we happy about?
        And my boat is certainly not 20 meters. 5,60 without a motor.
        1. Armata
          Armata 27 August 2012 10: 55
          +1
          Quote: TRex
          "Pleasure boat with a machine gun".
          Vessels of this class are needed, Or that you will drive poachers and violators of the border in the coastal zone with a cruiser? There are clearly formulated functions of vessels of this class. But the fact that this one is of course no joy.
          And on warships I visit periodically and now. And moreover, I served in the Navy.
          1. TRex
            TRex 27 August 2012 11: 03
            +1
            Locomotive! Colleague! Black Sea Fleet from 1979 to 1993, Northern Fleet from 1983 to 1987. Sevastopol, Novaya Zemlya. drinks
            1. Armata
              Armata 27 August 2012 11: 18
              +1
              Colleague 1988-91 SF Severomorsk. drinks And now I’m dealing with some issues in shipbuilding, or rather ship management.
              1. rumpeljschtizhen
                rumpeljschtizhen 27 August 2012 14: 19
                +1
                Locomotive and your office offered not the FSB and the Navy "Harpoon"? there he is also needed maybe in MO
                interested in.
                Agat Design Bureau LLC (a branch of marine systems of Sukhoi Company OJSC) is your office properly named?
                1. Armata
                  Armata 27 August 2012 14: 23
                  0
                  This is not ours, but the head developer. We participated there as co-operators. They made automation and control systems for water cannons and weapons. Our office is called Scientific Research Institute "Hydraulic Systems and Control Systems"
                  1. Ivan Kalinovich
                    Ivan Kalinovich 28 August 2012 00: 24
                    +1
                    Quiet. Sha-big brother is listening!
                    A talker find for a spy !!!
          2. max-02215
            max-02215 28 August 2012 08: 19
            0
            Quote: Steam Train
            And moreover, I served in the Navy.
            And I’ve been fishing there for 12 years, it’s a useless toy
    2. Grenz
      Grenz 27 August 2012 21: 41
      +1
      TRex.
      It is right.
      Previously, the Purga was an icebreaker-type ship with good seaworthiness. There are no such ones anymore - something rusts at the pier.
      But it is interesting - "Soble", if necessary, will reach Ratmanov Island, or will circle around Russky.
      1. Armata
        Armata 28 August 2012 07: 53
        +1
        Quote: grenz
        But it is interesting - "Sobl", if necessary, will reach the Ratmanov Island or will circle around Russky
        Now the project has an icebreaking ship. Only when and what will not be clear yet. Strongly slow down with TK.
  10. UzRus
    UzRus 27 August 2012 10: 29
    0
    Pleasure speed boat with a machine gun, horror!
  11. strannik595
    strannik595 27 August 2012 11: 00
    +2
    a crew of 10 people and a machine gun alone for everyone - is it a ship? ................ although the BB defined the development strategy of the armed forces as the principle of reasonable sufficiency, but something news ------ it’s a rook, then a dash, then a little boat ............ and beyond the ocean it’s more solid somehow ....... when we approach the aircraft carrier on the rook, one of our strong morale I think will not save the state
    1. mizantropi
      mizantropi 27 August 2012 15: 13
      0
      Well, at least something moves ...
      1. Armata
        Armata 27 August 2012 15: 17
        0
        Do you know what tasks a border patrol boat should perform? And what to throw everything into the ocean and expose the sea borders? So after we stay with bare borders but with the ocean fleet, that fleet will not be needed.
        1. Drednout
          Drednout 27 August 2012 21: 37
          +1
          Quote: Steam Train
          Do you know what tasks a border patrol boat should perform?

          Eugene, welcome.
          Boat - to drive around, catch up with similar displacement, land an inspection team and so on and so forth. Well, basically it happened to us like that.
          For modern poachers and the tranquility of the "great" can and will go? Surely and what "sheds" more to the summit will be adjusted.
          But I liked the Sochi boats more (flashed in previous articles).
          1. Armata
            Armata 28 August 2012 07: 50
            0
            Quote: Drednout
            But I liked the Sochi boats more (flashed in previous articles).
            I will post an article about him soon. Greetings to Rasul. There really is something to look at. At least the fact that there is a Swedish navigation complex and it is possible to set a route and just sit there and drink coffee. But I’ll write more about this later.
  12. Tog026
    Tog026 27 August 2012 11: 36
    +1
    Normal thing! good
  13. scrack
    scrack 27 August 2012 11: 46
    +1
    The Japs replenished. Let them catch crayfish in the Fukushima area
  14. toguns
    toguns 27 August 2012 11: 50
    +2
    http://fleetphoto.ru/list.php?did=113
    what it turns out 7 sable for border guards ???
    6 on the Black Sea and 1 to Vladivostok.
    good news thanks for the article :)
  15. Horla
    Horla 27 August 2012 13: 37
    +2
    There are a lot of problems in the country, but it took 600 billion rubles to prepare for the summit? How many normal warships can be built and not soap trays?
  16. Rockets
    Rockets 27 August 2012 14: 41
    +3
    Horla
    You don’t understand something. For starters, look what you built for the summit and what it will all be used for after the summit. More summits of different to our regions ....
    But the border guards also have a lot of problems and they need to be addressed. This is the border. Navy warships should not be engaged in any "garbage". Caesar, Caesarean.
  17. rumpeljschtizhen
    rumpeljschtizhen 27 August 2012 14: 50
    +2
    It’s interesting to compare it with the Mark VI Patrol boat (USA)

    length 85 feet. approximately 25.8 meters
    cruising range over 600 miles
    speed over 35 knots.
    Designed to expand the operating area of ​​the Navy patrol boats (quote)
    But this is until the project arrives in 2014
    The cost of 6 lyam (not ours) is approximately
    1. Orey
      Orey 27 August 2012 14: 56
      0
      Some kind of marriage - they could not impose textures on the waves. And is this a serious company?
    2. Armata
      Armata 27 August 2012 15: 18
      +3
      Compare. TTX are posted above. For comparison, "Harpoon" A77-5 speed 60+, range 1400, length 20 m, seaworthiness up to 5. Well, the weapons were planned to be normal.
  18. mizantropi
    mizantropi 27 August 2012 15: 05
    0
    The ship, of course, is not super, but at least there are ten for each fleet, and that's the point.
  19. not good
    not good 27 August 2012 20: 23
    +3
    Yes, in comparison with the "Harpoon", it is clearly rather weak. It seems that again some underlying problems prevent the chiefs from choosing adequate equipment.
    1. Armata
      Armata 28 August 2012 09: 23
      0
      Everything depends on the price. "Harpoon" $ 2,8 million without weapons. It is much cheaper.
  20. Phase
    Phase 27 August 2012 21: 22
    +2
    Quote: Steam Train
    Look recently, I wrote an article instead of which this freak was adopted. Article about A77 "Harpoon"

    Looked at this article. Yes, the device is futuristic. It inspires. Apparently the decision-making mechanism in our country is still not very transparent ...
  21. suharev-52
    suharev-52 27 August 2012 21: 57
    +3
    Yes, of course, not very, but one thing is good that finally began to re-equip the fleet. Do not forget another thing that the remaining capacity after the collapse of everything and everything is fully loaded. And new ones need time to build and, most importantly, personnel. That is the whole point of the problem. Sincerely.